 The secret to podcasting success is to interview famous people, but most of us don't have access to famous people to interview. So what's the next best thing we can do. Well, we can interview less famous people who might also be searched and that's something you might do people within your industry that have some reputation and might try to interview them. But what if you want your podcast to be mainly your message, rather than mainly interviewing other people. What's the secret to success how do you grow your podcast. Well, now that I've been doing, you know, having a podcast now since end of 2020 so about you know year, year and a half, something like that almost two years. Let me show you what the secret is persistence. It's continuing to upload episodes. Week after week, month after month, etc. Now you might say oh that's exhausting after that so much work, not necessarily. What I've discovered is that if you already make videos, or write blog posts, then the simplest thing to do is to either take your best videos and just turn them into block to podcast episodes or take your best blog posts and just read them out as a podcast episode. So I want to show you some proof of, well, how mine has grown, and I'll show you here. So my podcast is almost entirely my own messages. Once in a while I'll interview colleagues but it's mostly just me sharing my advice. And if I had started in December of 2020. And if I had stopped, you know, I'm like, oh no I'm not even getting 100 downloads, you know, per per day. If I had stopped in like the first two or three months which actually surprisingly many podcasters do. I would never have experienced the coming growth. Maybe I got, you know, excited about the growth, but then look it went down again. Oh no. No, this is not going to work. You know, still didn't crack 100. And I would have quit in about six months, which many podcasters do. I would have not experienced the coming growth where over 100 downloads per day is normal, or at least much more likely. And so, as you can see, keep going, keep going, keep going. Sometimes it's really, really low. You know, usually during the holidays and, you know, other other reasons. It's usually higher during the days when I have published an episode. But as you can see it just, it's it's gone up the trend just keeps going up. And I can't even tell what the future will bring but it's basically you could see the trend is going up. So, again, to summarize, the secret to podcasting growth is persistence. You just got to upload more episodes, which means you got to make it easier for yourself to upload episodes. So I'm teaching a webinar coming up. For those of you who are interested in turning your videos into blog into podcast episodes or your or your blog into podcast episodes. In the webinar, I'm going to show you exactly how I do that. And I'll tell you, it takes me about five minutes total to take a video that I've already uploaded to YouTube, and turn that into one of my podcast episodes about five minutes per And I only episode I only upload to podcast episodes per week. So in essentially every about six weeks or so, I take. It's a six times, six times 12. So I take about hour to hour and a half every six weeks to upload the episodes for the next six weeks. Most people spend way too long on their podcasts in my opinion. You know, maybe they might enjoy it might be a hobby for them but for me, there are many other things that I need to do so that's why the streamline process I'm really excited to share with you. I will also share with you and the tool the podcasting host I use is called captivate, but a link in the notes below this video. So if you would like to learn from me on how to quickly turn videos and blog posts into podcast episodes. Check out my upcoming webinar. The link will be below this video in the notes. And maybe I'll see you there. Thanks so much.