 Hi, my name is Dodie. I'm a musician and a writer and I feel like I am dreaming all the time. Singer, songwriter, YouTuber, Dodie struggles with a mental illness called derealization and today we're going to talk about how she manages it and how you might be able to as well. What is up everybody? This is Chris from the Rewired Soul where we talk about the problem but focus on the solution. And if you're new to my channel, my channel is all about mental health and what I like to do is pull different topics from the YouTube community to try to teach you how to improve your mental and emotional well-being. So if you're into that kind of stuff make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell and real quick announcement for all of my wonderful patrons out there. I'm doing a Patreon Q&A recording it this weekend so I just made a post, ask your questions and all of that and if you would like to be a patron and ask me questions that I'll answer in a video go sign up like even at the $1 tier you get to ask these questions. So the reason I do that is I get a bunch of video requests and this is a way I can make sure that I answer all your questions so head on over there. But anyways Dodie is she's an awesome musician. I just recently kind of got into her music a little bit. I was listening to some of her stuff I'm like Dodie's kind of cool. But anyways I knew that Dodie struggled with derealization. I remember she also helped out Elle Mills when Elle had her kind of mental breakdown earlier this year and this video was actually recommended to me by my buddy Dr. Alex. By the way go check out Dr. Alex's channel it's called Our Pets Health. He's a freaking veterinarian okay so I know a lot of you out there you are cat owners dog owners like he offers so much free advice over on his channel and he has a blog and a podcast like go check his channel out if you're a pet owner I will link it down in the description below. But anyways he sent me this article about Dodie where she talked a little bit about her derealization so I wanted to do some research and see what her experience was like with that. So in this video I'm going to be breaking down two of her videos one where she first really dove in depth into it and then I'm going to use some clips from a video she did with YouTube's licensed marriage of family therapist Katie Morton. I'm going to use some clips from that as well all right. It made me so unhappy and the statement that I knew it couldn't be normal. I found out the name last year during mental breakdown and it was super refreshing to find out that I wasn't just going crazy and that it had a name and also that a lot of other people felt like this as well and also it's the first step to treating it right. This first clip right here is something that is so important okay like I can definitely relate to what Dodie's talking about like so Dodie was struggling with these symptoms. She didn't know what was happening and if you're somebody who's struggling with mental illness it could be so scary it could be so confusing and you think you're going crazy you think you're going insane right but she talks about this this like sigh of relief she got when she finally had a name for it and I can relate to that because that's what happened when I was diagnosed with my generalized anxiety disorder like it made sense like there was a name to it and one thing that Dodie's talking about is when you get a diagnosis then you're able to start working on the solution like the first step towards solving any problem is acknowledging that there is a problem so if nothing else one thing that I want you to take away from this video is go get checked out okay like something that like bumps me out is when people watch my videos especially some of my older videos where I talk about different signs and symptoms of different mental illnesses and people like oh that's me no never ever ever ever ever diagnose yourself okay that is the worst thing you could do like my videos are designed where if you can relate to some of the symptoms so if you can relate to derealization feeling like you're in a dream state like go talk to your doctor talk to a therapist talk to a psychiatrist whoever it is talk to a mental health professional so here's how I am dealing with it firstly I'm not giving up on treatment I haven't found anything that works so far but I'm not giving up so yeah I get so many people who who ask me for tips tricks all these other things and I love I love this video from Dodie I was just telling my lovely girlfriend Tristan while we were making dinner and watching this video like this is the type of video that I look for this video of Dodie's is the type that I look for alright so like the reason I love this video is because she talks about how much effort she's put into her mental health alright and that's something that I keep trying to teach all of you guys something that I always say is that you don't have to do everything just do something okay because our mental health is not something that's just going to fix itself like on its own that just doesn't happen okay and so many people stay in their own suffering because they refuse to get help they refuse to try anything so the first thing that Dodie talks about is TMS I've also had TMS treatment which I've talked about briefly before but basically it's transcranial magnetic stimulation sounds a bit freaky but essentially it's like sending little electromagnetic pulses to the part of the brain that might cause the derealization it's just like giving it a bit of a kick and stimulating blood flow hey mama do you like see something freaky this this is an interesting type of therapy so those of you who don't know like it's not it's not electroshock therapy it's it's it's a it's a very tuned down version of that all right so what they do is they focus on different parts of the brain and it sends little electrical pulses to kind of stimulate blood flow um if you have health insurance and if you're in the united states check with your insurance provider and see if there's um any coverage for transcranial magnetic stimulation I've heard I've heard mixed reviews about it here's what I'll say about TMS I haven't heard anything bad all right worst-case scenario that I've heard about TMS is that it didn't help all right so like my philosophy when it comes to trying out different methods to improve your mental health is like unless there's like some severe risk like go ahead and just try it like what's the worst that can happen like the only thing that can happen is that you you get better the worst thing that can happen is that you stay the same all right so but talk to a doctor I'm not a doctor like like I said from my experience I've never done TMS but everybody I've talked to and the research I've done about TMS I haven't heard of anybody having like a really bad experience with it but this is more for people with depression not necessarily derealization also I'm starting CBT on the NHS tomorrow I have an appointment I'm very excited I'm open to that helping it might not and that's okay so in this video this video is a little bit older and Dodie was talking about trying CBT CBT stands for cognitive behavioral therapy now CBT is one of the best one of the best evidence-based therapies if you don't know what evidence-based therapy is it is a therapy that is specifically proven by science to work all right so CBT is extremely helpful for a wide range of mental illnesses anxiety depression PTSD addiction so many things so if you could find you a therapist who specializes in CBT go get that therapist well make sure the therapist doesn't suck but anyways CBT is a great form of therapy so this again is to recognize like trouble thought patterns it could also help with bad behaviors too so what you're trying to do is work on identifying these these toxic behaviors or toxic thought patterns because a lot of us we get stuck in what we call thought traps where one bad thought spirals into another bad thought spirals into another bad thought and then next thing you know we're doing something right so a derealization like something that i didn't hear Dodie talk too much about she talks a little bit about it with Katie Morton is being triggered which causes the derealization right so what CBT can help you out with is noticing when that trigger happens right and then changing the behavior or doing something about it and addressing it before you start to disconnect i think i guess mine i think i had like yeah like a little collection of everything that happened to me in the space of like two years um and then my brain disconnected and since then it's been like this is fine we can we could just stay here and i'm trying to yeah i'm trying to get it back and be like no i can't deal with it just give it all back but yeah i'm trying to figure out a way in right now this this is a second video okay this is with Katie Morton so one thing that i was missing from the first video well i wasn't missing it i didn't make it Dodie baby was that um we didn't really hear like she talked about how she had a troubling time in 2012 she died a little bit more into that in 2012 to 2014 i believe she said with Katie and like yes so this is something that a lot of people with derealization or depersonalization or dissociation struggle with is that this is often often a symptom of PTSD some kind of traumatic experience or just a really stressful time in your life so i'm not sure what happened to Dodie i'm actually thinking about getting her book now to see if she talks about it in there because i'm i'm just interested and curious i'm always interested to see what kind of life events cause different mental illnesses because so many are preventable especially if you're somebody you know um who who is in it how do i say that how do i say that not preventable not preventable for the person but for us as people we can potentially cause a mental illness in someone else and that is messed up all right like for example many people not all people with borderline personality disorder but many people with bpt had a traumatic childhood and that's messed up to me that's why i encourage parents to be better but anyways it's important to you know seek help and try to identify what your triggers are what that experience was because what i'm always trying to teach you guys and especially when it comes to therapy right like sometimes you know support groups or journaling or whatever can help you figure it out but i'm always trying to teach you to get down to the root of the problem so many of us stay in prolonged episodes of mental illness and our own suffering because we're only looking at the surface level stuff we're not looking at the root of the problem once you get down to the root then you can start working on it so katie recommends a few different types of therapy she talks about how she specializes in like talk therapy that's her preferred method and this can be very helpful um go check out my elimination videos especially um my last one that i made about uh her and holly like when you can help your brain process the story of what happened sometimes your brain starts to heal but the other thing that katie was talking about is something called emdr therapy all right the one that i find works best is like trauma-based treatment that's why i was curious if you tried emdr but you said that you did and that doesn't work for everybody either and also can be really awkward i'd like to try it again because it was really awkward i think that's the main thing that kind of like pushed me away from it because we tried you know she did all this stuff and then we went through a memory and i didn't do anything i don't know if i did it wrong or like i was just too nervous or spaced out it just felt a bit awkward so i kind of ran away from it this is used many many many times for um people who are trying to overcome trauma and this is something where they're still doing research and studies on but it's that stands for eye movement desensitization and reprocessing i think that's what it is emdr whatever it is but a lot of people with ptsd war veterans um you know uh caps firemen people who have been the victim of abuse they are typically going to try emdr therapy so i highly highly recommend it katie mentions that this doesn't necessarily help with derealization but i would argue that if your derealization is based on trauma triggers then it might help the somatic experiencing is a lot of like mind-body connection so recognizing how you're feeling experiencing all of your uh senses it's a lot of mindfulness that last one that she's talking about a schema is actually something i'm not familiar with but there's so many things that i hear about like dbt dialectical behavioral therapy it's mindfulness all right schema therapy what uh katie's talking about it's mindfulness training okay so dbt therapy is great so i'm going to link some resources down below and i'll remind you again at the end of this video but like there's an excellent book i read about dbt therapy where like if you can't afford therapy like get this book because there's a lot of practices that you can do on your own and it's about borderline personality disorder but just trust me like if you struggle with any of these derealization or depersonalization or dissociation systems uh symptoms or even like emotional dysregulation and and even if you don't have bpd check this book out please for the love of god and finally um if you suffer with this like me you're not alone i bet there will be loads of people in the comments who are also spaced out all the time or who struggle with this down again or all the time like me yeah let's make friends share some tips and i just called back to the first video that i showed you because i want to show that clip like something that's really important for anybody struggling with mental illness is to know that you are not alone that's one of the reasons i have this channel that's one of the reasons why i try to do so so so many collaborations is because i want my audience i want all of you to know that you are not alone you are not the only one struggling with this thing i know our brain likes to tell us that we are the only one struggling with our issues but we never ever ever ever are all right that is why like in all the descriptions of all of my videos you will find links to our facebook group as well as our discord server come join us connect with other people so you don't feel so alone take suggestions from others like that is something absolutely free that you can do to get help for yourself but anyways i do want to thank dodie if she ever sees this video i appreciate whenever a youtuber is so open and honest about their mental health and dodie is very very open about it and i look forward to following more of her story and her journey and see how she does but anyways if any of you struggle with derealization depersonalization or dissociation or there are other topics that you want me to cover about this like let me know down in the comments below okay and don't forget i've provided some resources down below for things that might be able to help you out if you can relate to any of these symptoms okay but that's all i got for you with this video if you like this video please give it a thumbs up if you're new make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell and a huge thank you to everybody supporting the channel over on patreon yeah like three or four new sign-ups today and remember if you want to be part of the patreon q&a make sure you click or tap right there all right thanks so much for watching i'll see you next time