 We are about to get into that segment where we invite our guests on the show. Like we say, it could be an artist. People who are doing extraordinary things in the music industry, in the art industry. In the entertainment industry at large. Or maybe you're a good enough chef. Maybe you're... We don't discriminate. Whatever art it is that you process, you're very much welcome internally. The last two artists to make a particular letter, kuli kwa na ma piano, kuli kwa na gina likuja tu kanrap. But today's artist, he... Hey! I don't want to over to understand him. So I'm going to play this little clip. Because he got me a little bit emotional when I first saw it. So I'm going to play this little clip just to introduce who you're about to, who you're about to feature here on Tamakali today. Seizing this moment is all I have been waiting for all my life. I have been patient. I have fought. Bled. And learned how to keep going. Even when I want to stop. I am taking you on a journey. A space. Another dimension. We are changing. Oh wow, the journey of love, he called it. Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to welcome two great, talented artists, ochiko and modest. Karibunisana tanokali. Uwe, thank you so much. Namu kumkoso chillis. Like you guys have such a calm manager around you guys. We have modest here. We have to maintain. We have to maintain. Karibunisana. I like how you guys are cozy. And this is basically your home be as comfortable as you can. Kwa nyimbani. Kwa nyimbani. Kabisa, kabisa. Wasani. Shazwa, lights, cameras. Uksama action. We're ready. We're ready. So I feel as though I didn't do any single amount of justice to your introductions. So I'd like you to introduce yourself, and then you can open the floor to modest. Modest. I'm a singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, graphics designer. Your guest for today. My name is Ochiko. My name is Modest Chabari. I call myself a creative because so much I do. I produce music, I sing, I write. I do music for film as well. I play guitar, I play keys. But I can't like look it into so many things. I'd rather say I'm a creative. So Modest is your role? Yes. Majina Kamilu kwa ID. Modest. Really? The folk are to know him. Does it process? Does the name precede him? Is it? Ah, you will hate him. You will hate Manzehe. I'm generally very happy to have you guys. Thank you. So, first of all, you want to talk a bit about that clip. You titled the journey of love. What did you try? I just want to keep my job here guys. I just want to keep my job. I think... Drumrolls. Worth Hera. And I'm going to tell you. So I'm going to tell you. Like for someone who doesn't speak Dolo. I speak Dolo. Is it correct? Please, I'm going to tell you. Worth Hera. Worth Hera. So it doesn't mean the journey of love. Yes, it does mean the journey of love. So Safaia Mapenzi. This is basically your EP. So there's a date there on the 20th of September. So, so far, we've been talking about Modest. Because it's dream. Why not? Why not? I don't know. I didn't say it. So, from the clip we were saying a couple of things. Like to make one like... Before calligraphals, I was in Sabuni. I was in Sabuni. You were in Guwapa. I was in Sabuni in Guwapa. So I went there. Imperial Lever. How did she put it? So basically, how did you know where your music journey started? For you to be here where you are. You're releasing an EP. You already have so many other songs out as well. We'll see you perform live in so many different places. Where exactly did Uchiko start from? At what point did you realise, you know what, I think I want to take this music thing seriously? If I was opposed to say that I was born a singer, I would be like, I started singing in 2014. Right. But before that, and I think a little bit after that, someone told me I could sing and I started doing it. What did you mean someone told you? I was auditioning for a poet to something audition and then someone told me, actually Baluziki told me, Yuga you can sing. How did you take that? Did you actually take it to as you were like, Like blah. Like ah and he chose it. And then from that, what is it that developed out of it? Oh my gosh, I'm good at this. Because the moments that followed after that, I got that same affirmation over and over again. Because now after that I got a little bit confident. Now when I'm doing a poetry piece, I want to add a chorus. And then guys hear that and then, that chorus, that chorus. So yeah, the confidence is calm. And here we are. So I'll inform you more this as well, because you said you're an all-rounded creative. Was it the same thing? No, it's my experience in high school. I remember very well the first time when I joined high school, me liwananga a grand piano. Now this is something that I used to see in movies. And now I get curious, like what do I need to do to play these things? So I need to do music. So I enrolled for the music classes. And then one time, when I was practicing the piano, kumbuka my teacher taught me how to play the piano. I think you can actually sing. So try and sing. Whenever what on your school and them, you're there leading. Bunch of other things. Because also now from high school, I formed a whole acapella group that then were able to make money. So you make money from high school through music. So I knew, ah, ah, this is it. I need to do this now. So just deal into your individual personal journeys before you guys meet. You've discovered, okay, I can increase my poetry some music. And then you start, how did you start growing your network? So you're like, ah, let me go. Did you knock doors on studios? High school did that thing for me. When I joined, not when I joined, that high school moment, I met a couple of guys. Were you those guys in funkies you'd have a bunch of guys around in you? No. They know. They know. But when I know Miskia, you could be next. So I had high school. Over that time, I met a couple of people who really did a lot to make sure that they fine-tuned the skill. I got into a band. We formed a band called Acoustics. High school boys. We performed in campuses, man. It was amazing. But that's where the fine-tuning really happened. So yeah. And then after high school, did you think, okay, that's when you took us fulani, then I do music on the side or you were like, this is my it and I'm going with it. Over time, now high school really dawns on you that shit, you're good at this because ma sumo, outside. Outside but truly sumo. So we, after high school, I really, really started performing. I started playing guitar because there's always been that influence from my dad. My dad was also a singer. But now after high school, I really, really got invested. Performing, learning how to write better. So yeah. And then we were first to the session after high school. How was that experience? Did you pitch to random people you know what I was going to go and give it my best? Oh my God. First studio session was a song we were doing called Kenya Nyamungu as a band. No, no, no, this is just, you see that that guy who told me I could sing. Years later, years later we met. And then they were like, we're doing this song, come. Then we got into studio and we did the song. I can't remember the name of the producer. He's big right now but I can't remember the name. So we got in there, guys were amazing singers. And I was just, you know. Come, come. He's a baridi. He's a baridi. When you were in high school, you were in a studio. That was my house. Was it like some sort of choir that you were supposed to join or like BGVs. BGVs. Please educate me on that. background vocals. BGVs. I actually had a verse. Actually had a verse. And I think the verse was dope. Did you write this? Yeah, I've always been a writer. Even before. So actually did a verse and it was fire to people then. I think it still is fire right now. Yeah. So you wrote the verse, you performed it? I wrote it, performed it to them. They were like, this is bomb. You called it. So for you, this is after high school you realized you in high school you realized you can do So kunaile stafia jack of all trades. Did you ever have such a thing within your creative career? Let me just find this one thing and maybe stick to it. How I actually found myself into production. I didn't know I wanted to be a music producer. I knew I just wanted to be a singer and that's it. The first song I took it to a certain producer who I remember when I sang the song to him I've never seen someone just cringe so much that he called like and then at that time while I was in that studio there was a couple of other artists now proper seasoned artists so I remember he just said I don't think you can do this thing so just go home take your money and then look for me 5 years later. It's not even worth it. How did you turn on? My friend I was like you know what I'm going to learn this thing. I'm going to learn it and then I'm going to do it for myself because now I didn't have at that time my confidence was who out so now that's how I found myself into production when I started producing songs for other people and then now 4 years later is when I started also doing my own songs and now it's been like a whole journey that I thought to kyogele asaia I told him I said I want to get into how and how the both of you came together which year did you meet? Have you guys met when you established Mali in your careers or like you always were in each other's lives you just didn't think too at what point did you meet and then now we can talk about the birth of your EP and you guys now working together It was a very funny story because so there's another producer of mine called Jamie so Jamie works with and I work with Jamie so Jamie sometimes sends me a song to work on and I didn't know at that time it was a tri song so I'm working on the song and then we met in 2020 oh wait no no no after I released a song of mine I did with brandy minor I saw someone follow me I was like when someone closed the school to talk then I just DMed him I was like yo I think we can work together let me send you a couple of tracks and then you know we see what you can do so I sent him a track when he sent back the vocals I was like I've heard this voice before so that's when I realized that the song that I worked on way before I met him was his and now from there now he's just been holding you over that sounds like fate sounds like unbelievable that we just randomly met him there so if I ask is that song part of the EP or that was something totally different let him answer that one the first song we did with him is not part of the EP but it's coming this next year I'm a coach you're not playing with anyone we love it okay so now like he said mumskiya you're like okay let's make some magic work you do that song you release it or Badoiko Mahali it's in the archive it's in the archive it's coming it's big that's why it's taking the slow I won't even ask about it hopefully you'll do me the honor of coming back here and performing it say no more it will premiere here it will premiere here wow I will hold it so now tell me briefly about your EP you've done that if you approach how did you make how did you guys match together I used to stay in Mumbasa so I moved back and I really need to get someone who I can back with when I'm now in Nairobi full time and we had already worked together before so that he was always in my mind like I need to work with this guy I went to his place I didn't even pitch him the EP I think I pitched him other songs and he was like wish he was here we did them but they were not yet there and then character development happened ya usani ya maisha streets karibu Nairobi insani kwa ni wale wulukom za kani me kujen Nairobi so that happened and that sparked is it something that you're comfortable giving a brief on and also did it influence the I was doing somewhere where you talked about I can't even say, is it regerzi or how do you say that word you went through her re-word and those people know that because I was like our people are over our kids it's just a buji name for character development nothing so what could you maybe touch in terms of sharing it briefly and height influences I felt enough I thought I was enough but Nairobi inani jipata na jipenda jipata na jipenda ni wata nileshipa alone I was in the nileshipa alone nili o nyeshwa nikambiwa karibu Nairobi sit down mamba apuani mamba apuani kupaka temtoto yeah waaay but so after that Holo current it's just as guys we don't really get to talk about a lot of things that we go through so a lot of things that I had put on the side now came to even things which were not related to this I was like ah this is the time in 2020 I was in Nmbil kwa last year I was in Nmbil kwa kwa kwa so so that sparks a whole series of emotions and I'm constantly writing like 2-3 songs a day I'm sending to my people and they're like are you okay cause you're not talking to us are you okay do we need to come and talk to you you know and I was writing like 2-3 songs every day now I just book it down to a few songs went to modest like what and he's like yes so so so so I can also mend my trauma let's trauma bond let's trauma bond let's heal so yeah so I told him about it and then this whole project is executive produced by Kamungi original so we came together with Kamungi original just sat down visualized the whole project how we want it and just got into work because maybe subconsciously they were all relating so Kamungi original is that a production house for this and may not know Kamungi original is a production house across from photo, video and audio yeah yeah yeah so that's Kamungi original and modest because they come together they are making magic happen making magic happen so in this EP how many songs are we expected to hear from are we sing any collaborations there are 4 songs of the EP there is one collaboration yeah yeah yeah are you willing to sell us who's on that yeah yeah the track list is out so oh really perfect because I was like so I was like let me not fangal let me not take away the movement so who's this artist that we expect top tier singer songwriter oh wow the boys are about to kill you it is your time to kill hand kachif tissue oh we love it so amongst them would you say your favourite one that just hits the one you say when it came out it slaps different every day either of these songs depending on how you're feeling that day each one slaps very hard but you know I'm a parent now so I can't choose my kids right you do what you gotta do on the 20th I will but that's how many days from now we have 4 days left so in these 4 days are we waiting for it to keep releasing snippets or just a little bit of something Viboku or Daily now and Tuesday you guys are not sleeping wow I will love it I just want to know there's a lot of artists out there who feel as though they have there's something in them that they want to release and they're looking for platforms or people such as Modest would you maybe tell us some of the things you learnt when you're going to that journey of discovering yourself your artistry what you wanna give back to the audience and them coming in contact with producers such as Modest what I can tell to this artist who is kidogo scared is release this music Iyom Zikimbayaflani Nyonona is not yet the perfect sound release it someone will listen to it, someone who knows or someone who will hear the potential because the people who can hear a bad sound but socially a bad artist sound is just not refined yet but the people out here who know what to do with an artist who is not yet there people like I'm an original Modest the moment you just keep on putting your work out there because if I was not putting out work me and Modest will never have met he would never have had my sound because I'm not doing anything so how was he supposed to know whether I'm a good artist or not so Modest for you as a producer there's a certain that artists kuna bitu wato ambiangu as an artist at the end of the day it's the music business there are certain things you have to get yourself ready for how best would you tell them to package themselves like what should they have ready what should they you know get by the time they are coming to a producer what are some of the things they need to have at least put together I think the one thing that I've gotten over a couple of years is you need to be committed committed to ensure that when you start this journey you don't stop because it's a very niabot momentum you get momentum over time so if you start now and then you break so you really need to be ready for the momentum and that's usually where now the hard work is because you have to go through all the terrible songs terrible recording sessions no views, no nothing before now people start understanding what you have because you know now for the consumer they have so much to listen to their listening to so you can't expect that you release one song and all of a sudden you're at that level one hit one you just need to be committed so it's not always glitz and glam no, no it's a lot of work we've fought this kind of studio so many times for this EP to just come out the way it is that's not a preganeki logo alright so because of your time and because you promised me you're coming back and I'm holding you to that we will find you guys thank you for having us I want to know where we can get your what can we expect from your EP but before then I'm sure there are still other songs what can we expect from your EP my music which is released is available on all streaming platforms and also on YouTube Ochiko OCHIKO the music that is coming from Tuesday is going to be available everywhere it's going to be available worldwide on all streaming platforms on all viewing platforms even on Google it's going to be out everywhere okay that's Spotify music, YouTube don't play everyone keys are everywhere thank you so much and also for you Modest, where else can they reach out to you they are coming out you should want your incentive my socials are Modest underscore Chabari and also for the music that I've done it's still the same Modest Chabari on YouTube, Spotify all these all the digital streaming platforms so I think it's over thank you guys for just being yourselves I even feel that I decided to go faster doing this but it's okay you always welcome me on Tano Kali you bring us the vibes there I'm still finding a word for this kind of music I just know what to do it like this but maybe you can give us just a little bit of something and then you can come back thank you for being there because you're ready for this see I'm still happy from the pain that you left me with if you went back all I would still receive and now I'm a fool for running back to you you you you you you deep down I'm such a mess deep down I miss my toxic deep down I don't have any money any biggie any votee kwa kweli nita weza sunga mele reliable and telling without your kisses your smile your laughter your eyes kweli nita weza sunga mele reliable and telling without your kisses your laughter and eyes move on I will move una des miuta malata tita maniku mega wacha ni confesbi ... I don't know what to do I don't know what to do I'm still a little bit of a mess I'm still a little bit of a mess I'm still a little bit of a mess I don't know what to do I don't understand To watch on the evil world Well, you need always a... Well, I will learn to live without your kisses Your smile Your laughter Thongabe Well, I will learn to live without your kisses Your smile Your laughter Your eyes Nita po My wounds will heal Nita po I'll love again And I'll move on I will move on Nita po My wounds will heal Nita po I'll love again And I'll move on Nita po What to a hill? What to a pond? That's not fair. That was so beautiful. Isn't it? Okay. Give me a few. Okay. I'll just ask the other questions. Thank you so much. That was beautiful. Nita po is one of the songs to expect from the EP. Staffa Dali. Can be any pala socials. Sapporo Chico's music. Like you already had. If you're trying to heal, if you're still in the process of accepting any kind of people, electrical development, music heals. Sing the song. As you can agree. Music definitely heals. Terati. That was lovely. Thank you so much. Okay. Please remind them just in case they didn't hear clearly. Where can they find you, your socials and the music as well? You can find me on all social media as Ochiko. OCHIKO. Ochiko. My music is available on all streaming platforms. Ochiko. Yeah. From Tuesday the EP will be available on all streaming platforms. So yeah. Jini jina moja too. Jina moja too. One name. One name. All right. Modest as well. Just to remind them where they can find your socials. On all socials, Modest underscore Chabari. And still when you're searching for my music, Modest Chabari on every single platform that you can think about, the music is available. All right. You're making the time to be here. It's definitely an honor. Thank you so much. Thank you for having us. Barikiyo sana. May your talent just keep blessing us. Man, Asante ni sana. All right, guys. So duty time, unfortunately, we'll have to cut the shoot there. But of course, nile segmentia mwisha at Tanokali but we highlight 540 strikes of the week. So instead of going on a broker, just play the music, play the 5 word tracks as we wind up. So, DJ Jina Chukotari na Tanokali. Okay. So let me just do, we do our goodbyes right here to Tamalizia as we play the Tanokali. It was worth it. As extending one segment was definitely worth it. All right. Thank you so much to the lovely lady Hilda for coming and gracing us on our fun guests two modest and Chikwa Sante ni sana for taking the time to be here and gracing us your talent as well. My DJ for the evening Asante ni, Asante sana Kokushikiliya. Nisantogiana Svitke ni Jay, come out to Nezha. We can do Apollyandras relationship. I can't Nezha Barasneo really. So, thank you so much. Just man the mother can find you on socials again. Yeah, you can find me on Instagram and Twitter Facebook is at the range to pay flow is meet here tomorrow from 7 30 for in a yard regi alongside Mali Moses. Yes, sir. Exactly, exactly. That's the tea, that's the tea. I'm not sure when he's gonna make me a public comment section but let me just let me just let me just let me just let me just imagine who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you who's then you can find me on socials on socials just man the mother in the Video them them them them them them people