 It's so stupid, it's positively bruised. They're brilliant, but it's possible. I'm getting nervous over here. Good. Nerves are good. I think nerves push it. Let me, I'll start feeling like I'm a lean-on. You ready? Shout out to me and the guy. Andrew Schultz. We are the brilliant idiots. And we don't have no pre-roll. No. So you might as well start with the church announcements. What are you going to be at, Schultz? Chicago, this weekend. Okay. We'll be a Thalia Hall Theater. Both shows sold out. Thank y'all. Next weekend, we're back in the city. And then we're going to Moscow, Russia. Pray for us. You going to Russia? Yeah, we're going to show in Russia. Wow. It's going to be wild, man. Just call your boy Trumpy to make sure you get the red carpet. Come on, dawg. You know, put an enemy at the airport, collusion. And then we got Australia the 20th to the 29th. You should get a no-collusion shirt to wear in Russia. Besides, I'm wearing a Rocky shirt on stage. You know what I'm saying? We got to make these viral moments. Listen, we got... We got Australia. Get them tickets for Australia. You going to Australia too? Yeah, I'm going to go the 20th to the 29th. September, man. It's not the best. Jesus Christ. It's the best. It's the best. You know, it's funny, I was talking to somebody this morning because me and them did something. And, you know, YouTube is always the play for me. I just think, like, why not? Like, I'd rather call YouTube and connect with them and let them do a big, you know, Beyonce Coachella rollout. You're like, nah, let's go to a network. And I'm like, for what? Why? The reason I was able to start touring internationally is because of your influence internationally. You had this Matt... Breakfast Club, before it was the beginning of Brilliant Natives, but Breakfast Club was, like, the source for hip-hop information internationally. Like, hip-hop is this... No, no, you're right. Matt is the biggest popper music in the world. So, when they would go every day to find, you know, news about hip-hop, London, Amsterdam, I mean, like, Oslo, all these places, they would go there for it. And then when we started doing idiots, it exposed me to all these, you know, fans that were around the world. Bro, you've done the podcast in London. Bro, and early... We've done that on no fucking London. There we go. But it's on YouTube. It's on YouTube. Same shit with my stand-up. That's what happened. It's just, it just went crazy. I tried to walk around the mall in South Africa. Not happening. Like, oh, all right. And they found you around other black people. Yes. You know, the thing when you go to Africa is always somebody that looks like you. They're like, no, that's him. That's actually him. But nah, salute to the internet, man. It's the game changer. Now, we have a young lady in the building right now. You may know her. You may not know her. If you follow Cardi B, I'm sure that you know her. Cardi B has a best friend. Her name is Star Brim. Now, is it five Star Brim or just Star Brim? It's just Star Brim. What does Star Brim mean? It means my name is Star and I'm Blood. So that's what it means. Wow. Okay, I didn't know her. That's right. The Star is the sign for... Brim is the set I'm in. I didn't know that. I thought Star is Blood. I thought that's why, like, Bloods have that tattoo on them. No. Five point Star represents Blood, but Star is my name. Like, my name is Star. Like, regular. Everybody calls me Star. Really? Yeah. And Brim is, like, slaying for Blood. Yeah, for the My Blood set. My Blood set. I'm gonna be honest with you. You're the prettiest Blood I've ever seen in my life. They be looking hurt out here, right? Nah, I'm just gonna look at that. Am I a lot to curse? Yeah, of course. Of course. So, yeah, the bitches be looking bad. They be looking like they went through the worst of life. How does a beautiful young lady like you become a Blood? So, first of all, where you from? I'm from Brooklyn. You're from Brooklyn. I'm from the floor. It's kind of Aussie. All right. So, how does a beautiful lady like you become a Blood? Um, I had to fight five niggas. That's how I became. No, I... Wait a minute. We can get to the process of how you actually got jumped in later. Jumped in and jumped out. Oh, I'm so excited, guys. You don't even know. You've been like, how I became. I'm about to take off my sandals. What was your upbringing like? Okay, so, basically, from the outside looking in, I had a really good upbringing. Like, I went on a whole bunch of vacations. You know, I was always fly. I had the newest everything. But I came from like an abusive mom where when she drank, she got abusive. But it would only be that one day out the week. It's not something that she did every day. So, it was like me being young, being like five, six years old. After a while, I realized, okay, Fridays. Stay out. That's the day to hide, because that's the day she's gonna come in and she's gonna whoop your ass. Like, you understand for no apparent reason. So, I didn't realize until I went to jail, why turn blood? One day, my lawyer was looking at me. He's going through like the files and everything. And he's like, you had a good upbringing. Like, you didn't have, you know, food stamps. You didn't have welfare. Why the fuck did you turn this? And I'm like, you know, like, I don't, I don't fucking know. I've been in since 12. Like, I've been blood since 12 years old. I didn't even know how to wash my ass correctly at 12. So, I'm looking like, I don't know. One day, I'm reading all the letters that my peoples have to write to the judge to explain the type of character I am. So, I'm reading my sister's letter, one of my older sisters. She's 10 years older than me. So, we didn't even grow up in the same household. By the time I was 10, she was 20 and out of here. So, I'm reading it and she got abused too. And this whole time, I didn't know. Probably your mom. By my mom. Okay. But only Fridays, right? Only Fridays. So, this whole time, I didn't even know that my sister was going through the same shit as me. Like, you feel me? So, she basically was telling the judge, like, I feel so bad. I feel like I abandoned my sister and I left her, you know, to my mom knowing, well, you know, once we leave, it's going to go pass on to the next one and pass on to the next one. And I didn't even know that. And I'm like, maybe that's why I went to the street. Because I was getting my ass beat at home. You wanted to hit the family. And since I couldn't beat my mom, I'm going to beat these other bitches up outside. Like, you understand? Like, that's just how my mentality was. I used to sit there and really like, all right, next person who hit the corner, we'll fuck her up. And I used to have no excuse and I used to just beat the bitch up that next person. But you was redistributing the page. Basically, like, and I didn't realize that until now being older, like, just last year, I'm 28 now, and I've been blood since I was 12. And just last year, I realized, why did I even really turn this? Like, I've been it for so long. I never even questioned why did I come to the street. You're seeing these girls that you're beating up, right? Mm-hmm. And you must know that you're more attractive than them. Um, it wasn't all the times that I was attracted to them. I didn't care. No, more attractive than them. Jesus Christ. No, no, no. I wasn't attracted to all of them. I only beat up a couple and ate them out, but it's just a couple, all right? Definitely not gay. Let's put that out. Come over here, honey. Let me make you feel better. I had to fight for my pussy in jail, so let me just put that out there that I am not gay. Oh, I want to get into that. Look at all of that. Look at the origin story out there. Like, fighting someone that's way uglier than you, you have so much more to lose. Did you ever calculate that? I didn't care at stuff like that. Like, when I was young and I was cutting these bitches' face open, I didn't give a fuck if I got my face cut open. Like, I was a tomboy at that time. Right. I didn't have nothing to live for. You came into yourself and you came into your attractiveness later in life. You didn't even see yourself as attractive at that young age. No, I didn't see myself as attractive and any guy like that I used to talk to when I look at pictures and I think of all the guys I used to talk to back then. I used to be like, these motherfuckers is gay. Because I was like, boy, boyish. Oh, you were a safe expression of gay. I was my boy. You were a beard. For you to be attracted to me, you like niggas. You really want a fucking nigga. Yeah. You don't really want to fuck me. You want a guy, but you know, I'm here. You might have felt that way because of the abuse from your mom. So maybe you just didn't feel pretty, but maybe you was fly. I bet you if I look at your old pictures, it's like, like, nah. I was fly when it comes to, like, clothes. But I was not fly. No. You wouldn't want to fuck me. No. Yeah. You weren't sexy. I was not sexy. You were cool. I was cutting bitch's face open. I was fighting niggas. I was putting, like... What's that like? I had to put tuna teeth. What's it like to cut someone's face open? I used to be so scared. It's easy. It's easy? No, no, no, no. I don't want... I just... What is that feeling like? Because I cut myself shame. I need to... You didn't hit tuna can. I need to hit... Wait, what did you say about the tuna can? Okay, so listen what I used to do, right? Yeah. So I'm like, you know what? I'm sick of getting kicked out of these motherfucking schools for beating bitches up with locks and a sock. So this is what I'm going to do. This is me at 13 years old, dumb as fuck. Like, you feel me? I'm going to put a tuna fish can and a sock. And I'm a B-hub with that. And when the principal asked me why I had it, this was my lunch. I didn't think about, bitch, how you... You don't have a can opener. You know, you don't have no mayo. You don't have none of that. No mayonnaise. So when I got put with the tuna fish can, they're like, what the fuck is this? I'm like, it was my lunch. And they're like, so how you was going to open it? Lunch lady. How was... How was you going to open this to eat it? Yeah. You really going to tell us that? And that's the story I'm sticking to. It's lunch. So you beat a shorty down on the tuna fish can? Yes. That's amazing. Can you imagine getting beat down on the... I beat a guy up with a tuna fish can too because I used to get fucked up by guys all the time and I never used to want to accept it. So every single time I got beat up by, you know, a boy, being young, I just went and got a tuna fish can or a lock or some, you know, pennies and I came back and just ragged their ass and it's like I want now, you know. Who was the boy she was beating up? Like, guys she was dating or just dudes in general was trying you? It was just guys in general. It was just like, I'm a gang member. You understand? I'm being hardcore as the niggas. So I had to gain respect because I'm not getting respected. So it's like, all right, I'm going to gain it. I'm so glad they gentrified Brooklyn. Thank you, white people. What the fuck? I'm actually concerned because we might have just brought more tuna. How'd you get money when you were young? Because you say you was buying all of this stuff and you was always fly. Like where was that money coming from? My dad was like, they take care of me. Like I didn't never like hustle or you know sell drugs when I was younger and stuff like that. Like no, it was my pops used to give me $100 as a weekly expense from young and then I used to just be saving it. Like I used to be the trick. I used to be tricking on my niggas and everything. Like I used to be the one with the money. So it's like, I used to just save it up, save it up. Like, and my pops knew because I was like so much tomboyish he spent a lot of more money on me when it comes to fashion because my little sister just liked the pretty things. You understand? So you can take her any like little girly store and she just like the little girly cheap stuff with me. I feel like since I'm a tomboy I got to have true religions, you know and stuff like that. I got to have the name brand boy stuff. You mother fucking with rainbow. No. Or pretty girl. When did you become who you are now? Like when did you start to embrace your femininity and because I don't find you as a masculine woman when I walked in here. I thought you were... You got to talk to me with Bob with some gang shit. Well, the second you said I never told you she beat people down with a tuna can. Bro. Even that involves... I know we got to go gender role shit going on. Charly, you have to think that involves cooking a little. You know what I mean? Like that is... It's probably... Yeah. It's feminine things going on here. Okay. I think... Okay. So when I was young, right? Guys use... I didn't lose my virginity till I was like 17. Right. So guys... Yeah, that's good. I weighed it. And then that's bad too because I remember getting my titties sucked at like 13, 14 in the classroom of, you know, in the closet of the classroom and I'll come out and I'll tell all my friends like, oh my God, I just got my titties sucked. And they like bitch me fucking. Like, fuck is you talking about? And I'm looking at them like, you're fucking? Like, dicking you? Like, you for real? How I feel? Like, you understand? Like, I'm answering all these questions. I didn't start developing too late, but I used to get so upset because I feel like all the guys around me used to be like, star, you're too aggressive. You too. You know, you need to slim down. You need to, you know, be more feminine. So when I started sitting here dressing girly and stuff like that, I'm a thought now. So it's like, wait, when do I win? Because when I'm sitting here and you know, I'm a boyish, I'm too aggressive, but now that I'm dressing girly, I'm a thought. I'm a thought. And I didn't even get no dick yet. Like, you understand? Like, how am I thought? And how do you eat? I don't even know how dick feels. Like, what do you... I didn't know when to brag about that kind of shit. So if I, like, all the girls I fingered in high school would go tell other homegirls, like, yo. Yeah, we tell. Unless we feel like they can't judge, you know? But, like, yeah, I was excited. Like, it felt good. Like, I was excited. I needed to tell somebody this. I can't tell my mother. Like, you know, like, who am I to tell? So I got to tell somebody. Why didn't you teach the Brooklyn K that you was just in the closet with a guy? It was mad closet. Listen, because in this over funny, I used to be open and we used to cut in it. Like, you know, so we were finally like, we'll go through every classroom and try to jingle every lock and be like, oh, this one is open. We ain't here for today. Like, you know, and shit like that. So they didn't know, but the other bitches was fucking while I was just getting my titties sucked. In the closet? Yeah. That's cool. Wow, they probably was fucking teachers. What did your father and mother do? Um, my mom worked for, as a nurse at one point, did she work for the New York Toes. Now she doesn't work nowhere because, you know, all the New York Toes is shut down. And my father owns a construction company. So he's just been owning that since I was young. Before I was born, he owned a strip club. This is amazing. Cause listen, they always say that, you know, we turn into life's a crime. Are we getting the gangs? Because there isn't no parents in the house. You know what I mean? Somebody didn't have their father there. They didn't have their mother there. You had both in the house. Both. And they're still together to this day. Wow. But one thing I did notice is that when I was in jail, every single person, I don't give a fuck of you, was white or purple. Every person been through something, whether you was touched, whether you came from an abusive family, whether your family had so much money, but you wasn't getting no type of real love. Like nobody was really effective. Like, you know, affectionate and stuff like that. Everybody, like even the white people that was in jail that wanted to, you know, be all privileged. I could just tell when I used to ask them about their stories, you know, and stuff like that. Or sad or they're so privileged, but you never get in the businesses. Your family not even coming up here. Yeah. But you got to account. Like you feel me loaded with money. You got $8,000 loaded with money, but you're not getting no mail. You know, nobody's answering your phone calls when you call. And it's just, that's it. What's more important, people coming to visit you and taking that time to write you letters and answer your calls, are people keeping your conversation full? Um, I feel like to me, I would say people coming, coming to visit you and stuff like that, because at the end of the day, you get three meals a day in jail. Like, you understand? And you could hustle. Like you could always, oh, I'm gonna make up your bed. If you know you could give me a tuna pack. People learn how to do, you know, knit and crochet. You know, it's a tuna. Tuna is your life. Okay, down, man. Let's sit down, man. Let's sit down, man. Tuna is the big role in your life. A big role. You know, I lived off a tuna in jail. But, um, so I would honestly say that because it keeps you out of trouble. You understand? If I know I got something looking forward to it, if I know that, you know, I could call somebody like, I used to be on the phone and I used to hear bitches next to me begging for $20. Like, do you know how that feels to hear her on the phone like, please, dad, please, please, 20, I just need 20. You know what the fuck $20 could do? Nothing. It can't do nothing for you in jail. Nothing. Like, $20 literally is shit. Like, on a bad month, I spent like $600, $700 in jail every month. Every month. Commissary is $320, right? For you to sit here and do your commissary. That's how much you could spend for the month. $320. So if you sit here, so now each phone call is $15 and that's only for five minutes. $15. $15 for five minutes and then if you want, listen, then if you want 15 minutes you got to calculate that. So imagine how much you're spending on a phone. Then if you want the text and service, like to, you know, do texting and do true links and stuff like that from the computer, each true link I think is like $3 or something like that or $2. You know, so it's like, it adds up. Me, I'm sitting here wanting to text everybody. I want to write everybody. I want to use the phone. I'm running out of minutes. You only get a certain minutes a month. You understand? I'm putting money on your account because now I want to use your phone bitch and I want to use, I want new sweatpants this month. I want to live like I'm in the outside. You understand? I want new sneakers. Instead of one sneakers, I'm going to put money on your account because I want two sneakers this month. Like, you know, it's just certain stuff like that. So how do you get that money? Are you getting it inside prison? No, I'm sitting here. I'm going to have my mom send it to somebody. Yeah. Okay. So your mom is on the outside and she's taking care of you. Yeah, but I used to hustle and I used to sit there and get some makeup brought in and I used to sell that shit because these bitches love makeup. Hold on. We used to give makeup from them. Hold on, hold on. I can't tell you my source. But I thought that you had your... I thought you could only have a certain amount of makeup. I didn't know you could have makeup in jail at all. Yeah, you could have makeup in jail. I didn't see my pictures. For what? I was looking at you. Now you did. You were. I was looking at you. What do you mean? Who are you trying to impress? Me. You want to feel good. I need to look good for me. I get to feel like I'm still alive. Yeah. I be wanting to walk around jail looking dead like you and you and you. Like, no. You done did 15 years. You look horrible. Yeah. I need to look like I'm here. Like, I don't got life. I'm coming home, boo-boo. You know you're coming home. No, for real. Absolutely. I need to make sure my shit is still sharp by the time I walk out. Like, no. I need makeup. I need lip gloss. I need eyelashes. You had fake eyelashes. I had all that. You smuggled fake eyelashes into prison. And here glue so that it could get on. Yes. Wow. Okay. Needed to help. The CO of the shit don't say nothing to you? How did God know I'm doing it? Why would he tell me? A more ugly church. Because one day you got eyelashes, but no, because the thing is, it's like this, too. You could, like, not eyelashes, but you could make makeup. Like, you understand, you could use coffee and water and make makeup. You could use, like, Kool-Aid and Vaseline to make lip gloss. Like, you know, so it's like, you don't know what the fuck we're doing. We're creative. Like, you understand, I know how to see here and make a pot using just my bottom of my cell. Bunk. Like, you know, like, I see here you cut, like you cut a wire. You put them two wires together and get hot. You put that on. That's how you make grilled cheese, tortillas. You know, like, so it's like, they don't know what we're making. You know what's so wack about that? Why don't they just let y'all have forming grills? Like, what's the problem? I still just hit each other with them. You know, upstate and have rock pots, but not in the feds. You don't want them hitting each other with the forming grills. Like, in upstate, when you go to, like, upstate prisons and stuff like that, they give you, like, a little hot pot and you could sit there and really make real mills because you have a little hot pot. You could boil water with it or something. You could boil water. You could do all that. But they give you books. So, in the feds, you could do all the microwaves. That's how you used to be able to make your food. They took all the microwaves away. So now all we have is 108 degrees of water. So that's how we make everything. Everything is boiling water. So I can make curry chicken and rice and all this other stuff just with hot water. So you came out of prison and you were, like, a full beautician. Yeah. Like, you learned how to do it ground up. I know how to do it scratch. Like, I should make some shit. You know what's so dope about that? Don't think about your perception in life, right? Like, you walk down a grocery store, you see some coffee, you think coffee? Yeah. Star walks down, she sees makeup. And you could use coffee to make your hair grow. Really? Like this, yeah, like this. Yeah, I'm telling y'all. Break that down. Come on. Break it down. I don't want to break it down because I don't like these boy-headed bitches. You feel me? They don't give me credit. So I can't tell everything. I can't tell everything. If you go on my page and you can see, I got hang time. I ain't get this for no reason. You don't want to give them the coffee's main secret? I'll be telling them. Y'all going to keep y'all no edges because at the end of the day, y'all are ungrateful. So I ain't giving y'all bitches edges. I ain't giving y'all bitches edges. What did you do to keep down? They're laid. They're laid. I got that right. That was pretty good. We're going to do a jail beauty book. Remember Prodigy came out and he did that jail cookbook? Yeah. We're going to do the jail beauty book. But how do you lay the edges while you're in prison? What do you use for that? They sell gym. They sell edge control. Oh, they do? Yeah. So that's one thing they will not have. Yeah, they sell edge control. They sell, like, cover girl makeup. That's from, like, 18 years ago. That's expired and dried out. That you got to add some water and shake up a few times and, like, over that instant. Wow. They have lipstick that is gone. Like, you know, they have old shit. Like, even, like, honey buns, you know, that I was busting down. They're old. They're expired. They was, like, stale? Yeah, but I'm fine with that. Would you do warm it up and make it a little soft, wet it a little bit? We don't got no microwave, but all I did was put it inside of a plastic bag and dip it into that hot water and just let it heat up like that and then it got soft. Word. Listen, let's go back because you said you became a blood at 12. Yes. That's early as fuck. Yeah. I know. My daughter's 11. Watch out for her. No. How do you become blood at 12? Like, dude. That is fucking... 12. Like, who introduced you to the blood lifestyle? Okay, so, as anybody know, in Canarsia, it's full of crips, right? Right? So, I'm the opposite. Like, I never want to do what everybody else is doing. So it's like, fuck out of here. I'm not turning a crip. Like, that's what everybody's doing. Like, you understand everybody in my neighborhood. So I was always fighting. I was just always out there doing everything. So it was a guy who, you know, he's still around, but he used to always come to me like, yo, come on. Start turning blood, turn blood. I used to be like, no, kick rocks. Like, you feel me? Like, and then eventually I got jumped two times and then eventually I'm like, you know, fuck it. Let me turn this because at the end of the day, these crips motherfuckers ain't gonna keep jumping me. Like, you understand? Why were they jumping you if you wasn't blood though? Because I didn't want to turn a crip either and I used to always disrespect them and I used to fight they bitches. You feel me? So that's what I did. And then on top of it, you're not late on in life. I found out I didn't care about life. You know, I honestly really didn't care and it was scary because I got that same mentality in jail. In jail, I stopped giving a fuck. I didn't give a fuck about nothing. I didn't care about anything. Like, I didn't care wherever you want to take it, we're gonna take it. Where did you go to jail? What age? Just recently, I just went. Like, I've been back at fourth to jail, but I just did time just like just recently. I just came home. Technically, I would like to say the opposite of being in a gang is going to church. Not going to school. You know what I mean? Not going to do an opposite gang. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. So... My life is crazy. You gotta look like church in school. You know what I mean? I went to five junior high schools and five high schools, three suspension schools. I've been to schools. You got kept getting kicked out? Yep. I got kicked out, superintendent suspensions, expulsion, to the point where they said, you know what? Just stay home because we don't got another school to send you to. The suspension school kicked you out. Frustrated? Yeah. They sit here thinking that they're doing everything right. Yeah, it was frustrated, but a lot of times, like when I did fight, a lot of times it was for friends. Like, you know, it wasn't really for me all the time. You defended them. A lot of times I'm very defensive. I'm very defensive with my friends. I feel like I own you. You understand? Like, your mind, can't nobody fuck with you unless I fuck with you. Like, I'm the only person that can fuck with you. Can't nobody else do it. Period. I don't give a fuck how you feel. Like, you know, I take over your life now. You're in by me. So it's like, you know, that's just how I feel when you become my friend. So, um, a lot of it was because of that. A lot of it was because of my reputation. I would go to another school and I'd be like, listen, I ain't fighting nobody. Nobody. I don't give a fuck. I ain't fighting nobody. I'm chilling. But then there's that person who feels like, oh, shit, that's that blood bitch star. Oh, yeah, I heard she tough. And there's the girl who runs the school now feel like, no, I gotta make an example because it's my school. That bitch ain't gonna be coming in here thinking, you know, it's stuff like that. Like, I will always have to fight because somebody else feels a way of my past. But this bitch, I did this in the past. Now I'm in a whole other school. The school done heard about me. You know, people in the school done heard about me. Now I gotta sit here and fight again because another bitch fell away and it's like, you know, I'm with whatever. So when lose a draw. Are you good with your hands? You good boxer? What do you, how do you fight? How do girls fight? I have more wins than losses. You do have more wins than losses. What is your technique when you're going into a fight? Are you going to rip out hair? No, I'm definitely not going to rip out hair. I might punch you in the throat. Punch you in the throat. Something like that. Dependent how big you are. Like, you know, I'll punch you in your stomach, bring you down the size. You know, I'm, I fight with boys. So, you know, like, I'm not with the hair pulling because I don't want my hair pulled and honestly, I'd be having more hair than them. So, why would I want to touch that? Just don't touch this. Just like, don't touch this. The first time you got jumped, you got jumped by guys? Yeah. Okay. Explain that. Walk us through that. Um, You in Kanawha. I'm in Kanawha. You know, I'm in the floors and I'm just talking wow shits of these niggas, as always. And, like, I remember I used to talk shits of niggas, like, playing ball. I couldn't play ball, but I used to be like, you're fucking trash. You can't even fucking play. And I used to be having no basketball shorts acting like I could play. You feel me? And I really couldn't play. And they used to just beat me to fuck up because it's like, this bitch is talking too much. Like, you know, we're young too at the time, 13, 14. And they used to just jump me and just beat me up. And I used to be like, it'd just be lit from here. And then the second time you got jumped, was it the same guys? No, it used to just be different guys, but we all know each other. Like, it's so funny because the same guys that jumped me, I'm super cool with them. Like, we grew up around each other. Like, you know, I'm cool with them. It was just like, I was just getting jumped all the time by them, but we're cool. So when you became blood, what was your first act to revenge on those people who jumped you? Oh yeah, we jumped them back. Really? Yeah. Immediately, you knew exactly who it was. One of the guys didn't want to come outside and I kidnapped his brother. Like, his brother was out like riding a little scooter and I'm like, come here little motherfucker. And I stood out there with the little nigga like, yeah, you're going to come for him, right? Little boy was like five. He came outside. Get that as well. Yeah, he jumped me. How many of y'all jumped them? Um, I don't know, probably like five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. What's the appeal of the blood lifestyle? I'm not going to lie. It seems cool. Like the language y'all use. You think so? Yeah, I'm talking about the way y'all talk. I don't feel like it. I was 16 years old or 15 years old and stuff like that. I had my own mind. I would have never turned blood. I would have never turned blood. But you did it as an active survival though. I did it. In a lot of ways. Yeah, but I did it because I didn't know no better. Like, you understand, you're 12 years old. Like who really knows anything really about life at 12? You understand? How old are you now? I'm 28. When you had to get in were they still making people cut strangers' faces? That was quite popular when I was a kid. You know what's funny? That honestly was never true. That's just a lot of rumors. Really? Yeah, a lot of stuff like that is rumors and a lot of stuff that's starting that one person is doing or a group of five that's doing compared to thousands. You understand? Like, it's like, how are you judging thousands because these five is doing that on Halloween or something like that. You know, like that was never... That was the big thing? Yeah, that was never true. Just like they say you have to fuck to get in and stuff like that. Well, they say that about some female bands. I thought that was a fraternity. These bitches... No, no, no. I thought they do that a fraternity. Sit there and be a whole gang member. Bosses sucking these niggas dick and fucking them. You understand? They're supposed to be your bros. It's not even supposed to be none of that. I never even did anything with anybody that's in the same... So that was my next question. What's the rule on hitting on the female members of the gang? There's none of that. Is it shunned upon? You don't touch... It's none of that. You're not in the same. No. What does that mean? Not in the same. Like, anybody that's in mind... Yeah, you're set. Yeah, I'm set. You're not supposed to be flirting with another one. That's your bro. You're supposed to be flirting with another one. There's a family dynamic that a lot of these people want to maintain. Me, I had a good family, but there's a lot of girls and a lot of guys that have nothing. So it's probably valuable to them to have that. Yeah, for comfort, for money-wise. You understand? We do a little thing where we collect money every month, like little $10. So if you're hungry or your kids don't have no sneakers this month or just buying her a stroller for her baby or just simple things like that. Just the other day, one of these girls got into a fight with her cousin because her family wasn't going to. So it's just little things like that with a lot of people. Do you guys ever have a mission? I'm just thinking of being like a female gang member. Are you guys ever about to go on a mission where you're going to jump somebody or something like that, but you got your period and is that ever like a difficult thing for you? No, nigga, that's blood for real, nigga. What the fuck is wrong with you? That's what's the best. Blood in, blood out. But you are like cramping, I can't go. No excuses. You said you was cutting people's faces though. No excuses. Was it that was just for fun? Yeah, but I cut the face. It's really your own face. Because like sometimes it was bigger than me and at that point in time when I was younger bitch, I ain't taking no losses. Now I don't mind taking no losses because I have so many wins but there was bigger than me and it's like bitch, I don't know if you're going to cut my face. So I'm going to cut yours first. What have you learned about humanity from this? You seem to have realized that if you take it to an extreme that even someone bigger than you and stronger than you will recognize they don't want to go to that extreme as well. Is that the reason why you'll hit someone to the tuna can or cut their face? No, at that point in time I just wanted to win. Right. Yeah, like I just want to win. Right. And sometimes when I was young I felt like it's because I was angry. You understand? So it was like I was really, really angry. It took me a long time for years. Yeah. It took Jill for me not to be angry. Did you start going to therapy or counseling in jail or something? No, but the judge is required by federal parole that I go to a psych every week now. You're sure? That's good. I haven't spoken to her. Just do it. I go to therapy every week. I just go there. I promise you. You probably got trauma that you haven't dealt with from your mom. Great stories. I'm here because I have no choice. What about the young man a woman that's walking around Brooklyn with a scar on her face or bulk shit because of you? It should have never wanted to buy a star brand. That's where you fucked up at. You right? That's your fuck up. Did these people forgive you now when you see them? I don't even know. Listen, it's so much people that I done this stuff to that I don't even remember half the time. So I'm always edgy and on point. Like I don't smoke. I never smoked. I never drank in my life. You understand? So it's like I'm just always because it's like I used to pee on my neck. Listen. That's a fetish. Now let me tell you something. You might have made one of those Criptoots neck. This is how I know. Walking around you canarcy like man I hope one day star pisses all over me. This is how I know. Lemon Gatorade. You got a lot of trauma and you got a lot of pain because you said you weren't even drinking or smoking so to do that type of violent shit just because you had shit in you that you wanted to get out. I never smoked. Yep, nothing. So you got jumped at 12. You got jumped in. If you try smoking I think that could help. I really did. No, no. I don't know. I just find it it looks dirty on girls because I find after a while for certain females they start looking smoked out. You know so it's like No, not crap. Who went here and smoked? No, not so much crap. Hold on. I'm talking about weed. That's what I'm saying. Hold on. Let's look around the room. What woman here is a smoker? Just look around. It looks like those over there like they take edibles. So you got you had to fight at 12 to get jumped in. What happened? Yeah, I fought. I fought at 12 to get jumped in. I fought again later on because different hoods like I just fought a lot. I want to know how you got you became black. It's not getting jumped in. Yeah, I had to fight. Who you had to fight? I had to fight three bitches. Damn. Were they good fighters? Yeah. They fucked you up? No. You was 12 star. Yeah, but like I didn't get like I didn't have no black eyes, you know, and stuff like that. Like they did what they needed to do. Like they got me in there, but it's like if I don't have no black eyes and busted lips and I'm not bleeding, it's like you didn't jump me good. Like, you understand, like you didn't, I didn't get fucked up. So when is the fight over? Like how do they know? Okay, enough to know she's in there. We know. That's a secret. Yeah, it's a secret. Oh. Unless you want to turn blood. No, I'm always down. I'm too old to be a blood. It's okay. I'm not one of these guys that get in the industry. It's dangerous. No. You sure? You can age out of that life. How do you feel about all these rappers and singers and shit that turn blood at 70? Yeah. I feel like they're low lives. Like, but it's so funny because I just be looking at them like, really? Like I just been doing this my whole life. You now want to be blood? You now want to be in a gang? Like what's going on with you? Like what's up with you? Like obviously I have to be some trauma because I know why I turned with some trauma. So what, what are you missing in your life that you trying to avoid with this? Or are you trying to be funny because it's like you're not even bothering nobody. I'm unbothered by it. I don't lose no sleepover. You just look like the idiot because it's like you're mad old. Yeah, yeah. You're old. Did they save money doing it? Maybe now they have protection so instead of paying for protection every city they go to, they're just like, yo, I'm blood. They're paying. They're paying one way or another. They're paying one way or another. Even if you're part of the gang, you still get... They're paying one way or another. If you look around, look at them niggas from before and look how they look now. They look different. What do you mean? Ooh, so you mean like the stress in the... No. Look at the attire, the jewelry on them. You know what I'm saying? It's some... They're getting paid. We're talking about the blood dudes. I'm talking about, yeah, any blood dudes or any crypt dudes that wasn't around, you know, a person that's famous and they're around famous people now. Oh, got you, got you, got you, got you, got you. They're getting paid one way or another. They're not just sitting here for free. They're just protection. No, they're getting clout. They're getting their attire totally different now. They're not looking like a bum. They got Rolexes on. You understand? They're going to waste some hell. They're getting paid. How much does it cost to, like, rent some bloods? There's no... There's no such thing as that. Why? What's up? You want to turn? No, no, I don't want to turn. You got beef? No beef or nothing. I'm just saying, like, for protection. You know what I mean? I'll protect you after. You got me? I got you. Oh my Lord. It's gonna be a price, though. Nothing is for free. It's a price. What if I give you, like, some fresh trout? No. I mean tuna. I mean, like, it can't be a bitch with trout. Yo, you scoffed at trout. You're like, I need a more refined fish than trout. Out of Albuquerque. Tuna, what are you talking about? You don't got the Albuquerque? If I needed to take you to Japan and get you some sushi, dude, the real tuna, you would lose your mind. You would lose your... I'm not killing everybody. No, it's over. They're putting it under the jail. At what point did you forgive your mom? I forgave my mom, I think, at, like, 14 when she can't even put her hands on me no more. Like, you understand, like, I stopped... Yeah, I stopped back. I stopped. You understand? So I felt like you bugging, since, like, I'm in these streets doing a whole bunch of crazy shit and I'm coming home still getting my ass whipped. Like, I'm a whole motherfucking gang member. You understand? So it's like, uh-uh, boo-boo. You ain't gonna be putting your hands on me no more. And, you know, it stopped. She still drinks, like, you know, but it's like, it's not abusive drink. It's not her getting our rate. As you know, she still drinks, like, you know, once every week and stuff like that, but it's not to that point. And my little sister never had to deal with it. She's seen it happening to me, but anytime my mom would try to go to my... I would protect her. Like, you understand? I would get on her. Like, you understand? I would get the kicks to the back and stuff like that because it's like, you ain't touching moms. You understand? I always had that mentality from young. And I guess, like, I remember the psychiatrist told me that's maybe why I'm always so protective of people, like friends, because I was protecting my sister at six years old, seven years old jumping on her. You understand? Making sure that you're not hitting her because only I can help. Do you think that she was saved some emotional stress because of that? Like, does she not share your trauma? I don't feel she shares my trauma, but I feel like in a way, she does in a way because she drinks a lot. Your sister? My little sister drinks a lot. She... Okay, so I'm 28, she's 25. She doesn't see she drinks a lot, but I see it because I'm watching you. And the thing is, my little sister is the complete opposite of me. She's not, you know, street wise, she's not like that. But when she drinks, she's me. Like, more and more me. Like, she's more ready. She suppresses it when she's sober. When she drinks, she's pushing people for no reason, going up to people just wanting to... And it's like, I don't even do that. Like, I had to tell her, like, yo, you bugging the fuck out, what's wrong with you? Like, we're going to have to get into a whole brawl in here because your drunk ass don't know how to control yourself. Like, it gets, she gets... turns into a beast. Did you ever get to the root of your miles trauma? Like, why she was drinking so much and beating on y'all? Okay, so listen, when I first, when I came home, right, I sat there in a halfway house and I told my mom. My mom was there and one of my sisters, the same sister from, she came up from North Carolina. So I looked at them and I said, listen, let me tell you something. I forgive you. And she was like, huh? I was like, I forgive you. Like, I forgive you for everything. Like, I know that you went through stuff in your life. I know that you got touched and you never wanted to tell me. Like, you understand, I know that, you know, your mom died when you was, you know, by yourself, you didn't have no father, you don't have no family members. I know all this. Like, you understand? Don't worry about how I know, I'm gonna break it now crying. Like, she just couldn't even, like, control herself. But I felt like, she needed to hear that I'm not mad at you. Like, you understand? Like, I'm not mad at you at all. Like, I know that you might feel that you feel that as a parent because, you know, all the stuff that is like, yeah, I'm a gang member, but I did pretty good for myself. Like, you understand? Like, you know. So forgiveness worked for you. Charmie doesn't believe in forgiveness, but you think it worked. I'm working on it. I don't, I don't, yeah. Like, I don't forget it. You understand? And I know where it brought me. I know, like, where would I be right now? That's, you know, I'd be thinking about stuff like that. But then it's like, I don't regret anything. Like, I would do it all over again. Like, even me down to scamming. If you right now, I will go and do that again. You know why? Because I have so much stuff that I got out of that that is still here. That it's not being taken away that I would not have been able to get working the regular nine to five. Like, I want this shit. Like, you feel me? You're not Nigerian, are you? Like, no, I'm Guyanese. Okay. So, um, I feel like I had to tell her, like, you know, like, I forgive you for everything. I felt that my mom had got touched when she was young. I found out that my mom's mom started doing crack, you know, and I think my mom had an argument with her mom right before she died. Because my mom used to, yeah, my grandmother, I never met her. My grandmother used to fuck with a guy. This was her husband. And at that, you know, at that time he was doing crack and he was using a needle. And I guess he used somebody's dirty needle and he caught AIDS. She was had kidney failure. So, um, she caught HIV from it. And because she had kidney failure and her immune system wasn't good, she died right away. And I think her, I think her and my mom had an argument right before that. So I don't think she was able, able to, you know, to tell her mom, like, I'm sorry, or, you know, I forgive you, or I didn't mean no, you know those harsh things. So that just been sitting on her forever. And I used to, I realized that too, because any time my mom used to be my ass, she's like, you look like your motherfucking grandmother. Like, you know, and then it walked away. And it's like, look like my grandmother. Don't you love your mother? The fuck, um, that's what I'm thinking when I'm young. Like, don't you love your mom? Like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Do I look like my grandma? Like, kind of weird are you? Yeah. And then it's like, it's trauma. Like, you know, like, who am I to judge? I've never been touched. Yeah. I've never been touched. Like, you understand? Yeah. And the gang world, it's been attempted. Guys had tried to rape me at one point in time, but I have never been touched. You know, I have never been touched by a family member. Yeah. Like, I had guys get drunk, you know, and feel like they could overpower me and stuff like that. Gang members, that's no longer, they're no longer with, it was like, you know, like I put my life on the line for these niggas and these are the same niggas that tried to touch me, but I could never understand my mom's you things. Like, you know, like I can't, I don't care what it is, I could never understand. How does the gang, you understand abuse though? Yeah, I can understand abuse, but I can't understand like, like I don't even, I don't know how deep it is. I don't know if it was my mom's friends and they was always around. Yeah. I don't, I mean my grandmother's friends. I don't know if it was my grandmother's friends that was always around in the house. And you know, I don't know if it was my family member of my mom's, because you know, back then a lot of family members would be touching you. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. Can you be vulnerable? Is that hard for you? I'm very vulnerable. Like, like with a guy, someone that you like or you love, are you capable of like, not protecting them and being protected and like putting yourself in a situation where you can get hurt? Is that, is that tricky for you? I don't feel, I could ever not feel like, I gotta protect them. Like even though they be tough, like they don't be, you know, soft guys, I don't know the real fact that, I don't know, that's just, I don't know, I would never, I don't, I don't think so. I think that I'm going to always be on some, what happened, who y'all talking to? Like, you understand if a nigga was to come and press money or, you know, I think I would be front in line with him. I don't feel like I'm going to be behind him and I don't feel like I should be smacked down in front of him because you a man, nigga, like you feel you protect yourself, but I know I'm going to be right there, right, right beside you. What's up? What we doing to him? You've been this protective force for the people around you, right? Your little sister and you've had this like, immense responsibility at a young age, something that most people don't have to do at a very young age, right? Which is like to protect your loved ones. And then you enter this gang where you also feel responsibility to protect these people around you, right? And eventually, you know, you're going to, and I'm sure you've had relationships where, part of a relationship is like, you're both protecting each other, right? Yeah. And like, allowing somebody, the ability or also the honors, like to protect you. Like, hey, you don't need to hold it down. Like I'm going to take care, if something's wrong, if you're pregnant, if you've got a kid for nine months, you're not going to be able to do anything. Let me take care of you. Let me protect you. Is that something scary for you? No, I don't think it's scary, but I don't think it's going to ever happen. Really? Like I don't think, I don't really get into that much stuff for the person that I'm with to ever feel like, you know what, don't worry, I got this. Like you understand, like I don't get into stuff that much. If I do get into stuff, it's because of me protecting somebody else. It's never really for me protecting me. No, I don't need like a violence thing. Yeah, you don't seem like an agitator. Yeah, like it's never for me protecting me. It's always for me protecting somebody else or standing up for somebody else. But I don't mind giving him, you know, the will when it comes to certain things, but certain things is like, fullback, I got this. Like, you know, like, chill out, you don't even need to worry about it. What did you go to jail for? I went to jail for skimming this time. Okay, credit cards? Yes. He said this time, how many times have you been to jail? I've been to jail a few times. This is the time that I did the most time. All the other times I went to jail was violent. Like, you know, it was for fighting and stuff like that. It was violent crimes. This is my first white collar crime. What was the longest sentence before this one? This was the longest. So before it was just like weekends, a month? Like, yeah, like a month, stuff like that. How much did you get into skimming? Allegedly, I got $250,000 in skimming. A quarter million? Allegedly. Allegedly. I'm going to tell you something though. I don't know if you did that, but I'm going to give you a high five. Because if you're going to do it... Stop the wardeness! No, but if you're going to... Stop the wardeness! If you're going to take a penitentiary chance... You think that's a lot? I mean, if you're going to take a penitentiary chance, a quarter million dollars... You think that's a lot? I mean, not now, because I'm a millionaire, but a quarter million dollars... Say it with your chest. Say it with your chest. But a quarter million dollars in the street... Hey, Charlotte, I don't care about your little pennies. You're like $250,000. $250,000. Hey, sis, that was cute, sis. A little high five on that. Okay, so basically, when I first... My commissary full. When I first got locked up, I didn't get locked up for gang shit. Like, you know, I got locked... I mean, I didn't get locked up for scamming. I got locked up for gang shit. I basically... They basically wanted me to tell. You know, and since I didn't... They're like, all right, bitch, since you're not going to tell on who's the big dog and where's the murders and where's the gun, we're going to hit you with this. So they hit me with $250,000 for scamming and barnies, for taking $250,000 worth of stuff out of barnies, and I didn't get a restitution or anything. So it was basically bullshit. I don't have no stipulations. I don't have to take no restitution. So you stole out of barnies. Yeah, that was stupid. I thought you got cash. I didn't know you said that. That is cash. Oh, because you sell clothes. But... So wait a minute. Who wasn't that got stopped in barnies? Which black lady... No, didn't somebody black it like stopped in barnies where they were like asking or they were following around barnies? It wasn't a celebrity, though. It was like a kid. It was a kid. Yeah, yeah. It was a little kid. I forgot it. It was like a kid. No, it wasn't her. I didn't bring him in. He didn't work with me. He didn't work with me. He didn't work with you. He didn't, he didn't, he didn't work with me. That was the last time we didn't follow it. Your lawyer must have been trashed, though. I was like, you couldn't beat a boost in charge? You said what? I said your lawyer couldn't beat like a boost in charge? That was a shoplifting, right? No. It was wire fraud, but I rather that than what they were trying to offer me for being a gang member. Oh, so they're trying to kill Jericho. Yeah. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. So I'll take that any day. And how many years was it? My category was 21 to 27 months. The judge gave me 15 months. I did 10 months, three months halfway house. And then they took a month from me because I did something in jail. So I had to be in a box for five months. What are you doing, Jer? Allegedly, they said I cut somebody. But you know, I don't do that no more. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Why would they think you cut somebody? I can't. Oh, no. You stop. Everybody is me. It's because I'm black. She said you did it? It's definitely racial. It's definitely because I'm black. I think it's racial. She said you did it? Yeah, but I think it was mistaken identity. You know, I look like a lot of people in jail. We all look alike. You know what I'm saying? We're all black. So I think you should admit somebody else. It's one type of makeup. It's very easy to get people mixed up. Very easy. It's that coffee makeup. A lot of bitches was wearing a bun. You know, I wear it online. So, you know, I was putting a lot of bitches with their buns and making them look cute. You know, a little cute one with their buns and shit. It was just like, you know what? Now, hypothetically, because we know you would never do this, if you had to cut somebody in jail, what would it be for? It would be for them trying to take this pussy. Somebody trying to rape you. Yes, I don't see the problem. It would be for you trying to steal from me. They were trying to take your pussy? Oh, yeah, I had that. Yeah, I had a bitch trying to take my pussy. How? Okay, so, you got a pen? Do you got a pen? Listen, they really want... Let me get a pen. Taylor, give me a pen. Somebody hand me a pen. Wait, you're going to write? What are you going to write? I don't know. I need a pen. I need to show you how bitches rape you in jail. We'll have a pussy, people. What's going on? You have an asshole, so let me show you. I'm a freak. You know what? Come on, female. Yeah, verbal law is fine. Just describe it. Use your finger. Because sometimes they don't want to give us pens, so you have a toothbrush. Alex, come here. Humble, come here, humble. Somebody got to be the guinea pig. You have a toothbrush, right? You get a pad. Sanitary pads, right? You get the pads. You put the pads right here. Maxi pads. Yes, the maxi pads. You get the pads right here. You roll it, make it look like a dick. Then you get an ace bandage. You wrap that around it, so you want to make it more secure. Now you take your bra, right? Yeah. And you tie it around you. So you have a strap on. And you put this, and now you got the strap on. And then you just grab, bitches. Come here. You got that glove on it. You feel me? Lubricate it up. Vaseline, baby oil, spit. What is the fucking point? No, but you got to realize there's a lot of girls who like shit like that. They love straps. What do they like? They're gay. They want to feel dick. They don't feel nothing. You are feeling anything. What are you feeling? It's a big dick. No, no, not you. The person that's doing it to you. Oh, yeah. I don't know what they're feeling. It's probably an emotional thing. If one of those girls is fucking and going, ugh, that's fake. There's no physical feeling. It's like getting the tattoo on a fake arm. It's like getting the tattoo on a fake arm. And I go like, I heard. Ouch. It's like, ouch. Oscar Pastore is stubbing his fake foot. Oh. My P.O. is pulling. What answer? Go ahead. Guys, I don't know what just happened. This is beyond me. How often do they do visits? Okay, so he's like active P.O. right now. I have another P.O. that I already did a visit. So he has to just expect my house and make sure that, you know, like everything is copa-static. Okay. So listen, let's get back to the rape, right? So listen, a woman is coming at you with a fake scrap on her. Yeah. You see that coming. You can defend that. Okay. So let me tell you how this happened to me. Let me tell you my scenario. I'm a dumb bitch. You feel me? Okay. I did a dumb bitch move. Which was? Which was sleeping during the day. Oh. You don't fucking sleep during the day in jail where your cell is open. You understand? Right. You wait till they fucking lock down the cells. But I was tired. I just got out the box. You feel me? I was, you know, out there because it's like, oh yeah. I was in the box for four months. I'm free again. Like, you know, so I'm all day jumping around. Yeah. You know, just finding out what's going on in the jail, scooping out the spots, you know, seeing where the cameras is at. You know, shit like that. So then I finally knock out. Like two o'clock. Oh, you're P.O. calling again. Oh my God. So, okay. So basically back to the day rape. Yeah, you asleep. The day rape. Jesus Christ. She tried to day rape me and she didn't set the mood. And that's what got me upset out of everything. Because it's like, you're really not going to even try to set the mood for this pussy. I'm just like a worthless pussy. You're just going to rape this pussy and not set the mood for this pussy. What do you want? The mood set pot. Let her go. Listen, listen. We have headphones in there where you know you could have sat here and played some music and like music be playing in the background. You know, like we could have played the music in the background. They could have sat here and had little flowers, you know, spread it about. I could have been up. Okay. You know. Let's do it. Yeah. You could have set the mood. You could have sat here. We put like construction paper. They could have put construction paper over the light to dim the lights in the room to make it look like a boom, boom room. They could have set the mood. So that's what happens in jail. Yes. They could have set the mood in jail. They put up a curtain. They do shit like that. She didn't do none of that. She had no fucking respect for me. She did not give a fuck who Star Brim was. And that's the shit that got me upset before anything. So she might have got that pussy. You don't fucking know me. Like, no, she could have never had got the pussy. Okay. But, um, so it's like two o'clock, you know, in the afternoon, two or three o'clock in the afternoon. And I feel this, like I feel a lot of grabbing, you know, and shit like that. And then I'm looking out my sleep and I see the strap just chilling, just dangling. And you know what I'm like, oh, oh shit. My worst nightmare to wake up from a nap. My worst nightmare. And it was so long. It's so big. It was the biggest strap I've ever seen in my life. She was mad maxi bag. It was a man, nigga. It was like horse dick. It was like a horse dick. Oh my god. Like, it was literally so big that it's like, where you thought that was even fitting? It's just like, not in this Gucci. Yeah. So she fucks me up now. I'm getting fucked up at first. She's beating you up. Yeah, she's beating my ass. She's really trying to rape you. And you got to realize, let's not even say she, let's say he, because this is a person who's transforming. In jail, they have those. Transitionists. She's not transforming. It's not Optimus Prime. Sorry. I'm sorry. Megatron! No, seriously. I don't want to make fun of them. I don't want to make fun of them because I don't want them coming for me. I do not know the correct terminology, but all I know is that she's transitioning. Transitioning, yeah. She's transitioning and everything that happens on the outside in jail, they have to continue on the inside. So she was getting hormone shots. He was getting hormone shots on the outside. So it was a real guy? It was a girl turning into a guy. Didn't have no teeth, no more. Oh, it was a girl turning into a guy. The clip was hung. Like it hangs now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like basically it was everything. So they're shooting to test out the wrong oldie. Yeah, like and this is something that she's been getting. These are shots she's been locked up for 15 years. These are shots that she's been getting for 15 years. So she's strong. You know what I'm saying? Like she's strong. Yeah. He's strong. He's got a lot of stash and everything. Like boy, everything looks like a boy. Super soldier. Everything looks like a boy and he does not look like a girl once so ever. Like you know there's a few of those that's in there. So he's fucking me up, beating my ass, beating my ass all the way he finally grabs me up out the cell, like out the bed and slams me into the locker. And I don't know, but I must have found some super power strength because after that I was like listen sis, you ain't get fucking raped by these jail niggas, by these blood niggas. You gonna get raped by him? Fucking no. Like you feel me? So then I started fucking up, fucking up and allegedly they said I cut up, but I don't, I didn't do that. But I started like beating his ass all the way and they sent me back to the box again. Question. If you just hypothetically, if you did cut him and him is trying to save you. There's no snitching in jail. But still wouldn't it be self, wouldn't it be self-defense? You wouldn't know it's self-defense if there's no telling. How would they know? I didn't tell them my case. I'ma tell that this person just, you understand? Because that's now a Priya. Oh god. That's now a charge that that person is getting. Now my name is on paperwork. I'm good. Like you understand it is what it is. I won this one. I got to go back to the box. Fuck it. That's what I got to do. But I'm definitely not having my name on no paper. Like, you know? Sitting here saying that. Now was she fighting you with the strap on so long? Yes. And it was hitting my leg to hurt the fight and shit. Like, I was just swinging. And it was so big, you don't understand how big it wasn't strong. Like it did not crumble up. Like it's like why in this whole tussle and fight did it not fall? Because does that distract you? Because if you was fighting a dude, you would go for that dick. No, it didn't distract me. But you can't grab it. That's what it would mean. It didn't distract me. It just like, I remember like later on feeling when I'm in a box like this fucking hard ass dildo hitting my leg and shit during the fight. What kind of shit is this? Like hard ass dick. Like, you know, so. So what happens after you get out the box and you see this person again? Okay. So I didn't see that person again. Okay. Because I came home out the box. I did, I did my four months. I was out for three days and then I went back in. Like maybe I was out for two weeks. I don't know. I don't remember how long I was out. I just know that they sent my ass right back in and I didn't even like get comfortable yet. Like they sent my ass right back in and I came home from the box. So when did Starbrem meet Cardi B? Body B. I met Bardi a couple of years ago by a person that was our own friend at the time. Like a lot of people think that I'm gonna have to strip club. A lot of people think that I'm a stripper. I never stripped in my life. Not that I have a problem against the strippers, but I always bartended in a strip club. So and the reason I bartended is because I'm fighting a case. Like you understand I have to come up with fast money to pay for this lawyer so that and I can't scam. So this is why I started bartending. I didn't bartend because I wanted to bartend. I don't even like people. Like I don't fuck it. I don't drink. You understand like I don't want to look you in your face. I don't want to shake my ass until I see the money being thrown. Like, you know, I go to people and be like, what's up, you babysitting this? Like what you want to do with this money? Like, you know, cause it's like, let's get this over with. Like, you know, I'm here. Like, so, um, that's how I met her. I met her a couple of years back by a mutual friend. It wasn't like in a strip club or anything like that. By the time I met her, she wasn't even stripping no more. Really? Yeah, she was out that life. Question. Why are there bartenders in the strip club? To serve drinks. To serve your drinks. Yeah, but why does it have the strippers do it? Because they're working. Because they're working. Work a little more. Like, cause, cause whenever I'm in a strip club, the waitresses. Look better. A better looking in the strippers. That changed over the years. So, listen, let me see. It has not changed in New York. No, no, I mean, it changed where the bartenders look better than the strippers. No. When I was coming up, the strippers was the shit. Yeah. And then the bartenders became shit. So, basically, I feel like this. And this is what I say all the time. You see how everybody be like, oh, yeah, there's no racism in the club. It is. Every single time I have ever bartended, I'm the only black girl there. There's no other black girls that's bartending with me. They're all strippers, basically. And I feel like it's, it's simple. At the end of the day, Spanish people attract Spanish guys, right? Spanish guys, when they come to a club, they're not going to sit here and ask for a discount on a bottle. A black guy is. Like, you understand? So, business owners be wanting to try. For real, like, I know I am. Like, wait, 300 for this? Like, what's up? I can't get a discount if I buy two. Like, you understand? A Spanish guy's either going to get it or not. You understand? They're either going to buy this or they're not. And then on top of it, these Spanish bitches got their body done because their cousins do it. You understand? In the basement. So, it's easy for them to get their body done. It's harder for a bitch like you to get by myself. Well, a trip to the article to see grandma. You know what I'm saying? Grandma. They know everybody. They know in their country. You know how to get the discounts, where to get the discounts from. Black girls, we got to pay full price. So, it's like, oh, hell no, we ain't getting this shit. Except for a bitch like me, because I got this on, you know, whoever paid for my shit at the time. Thank you very much, whoever she was. What you got? I was scared, man. I got Lipo. All right. What is, what, what is, Lipo means you take it out? Did you stuff it back in anywhere? No, I just took it out. I wanted it. I told him to save it for me, but he didn't. What were you going to do with it? I wanted to put it in my ass, but he said no. Oh, okay. So you got Lipo. What does that mean? So you made yourself skinnier? What did you do with the Lipo? Yeah, like, I got all this. I made it skinnier, because when I first started bartending, I used to make like three, four thousand a night. And I used to, listen, that's nothing. I used to make like three, four thousand a night. And I used to sit there and be like, yo, like my father was like, don't start bartending. You want to want to get your body done. I used to be like, nigga, are you crazy? Look at me. When I seen throwing bitches in there with a body done, I'm like, oh yeah, I need to get this snatched. That snatched. It really does fuck with your mental. You really start to see people and be like, nah, I do need to get this done. And it crazy because once I got it done, I started making no less than eight thousand a night. So why would anyone strip? I don't know. A lot of people, a lot of people like different things. Like, you know what I said, maybe they're not much of the strippers making. Not more than me. Yeah, I do remember. They're making less money to show their pussy than you are to bring coronas to tables. Yeah. I remember that time in New York when the bartender took over, though, like when it was the bartenders with Bernice and all of this. You got to realize this too. A lot of girls, a lot of strippers don't want to have that type of clientele. You understand? In order for you to have people throw money on you, like as a bartender, my friends, people ain't just coming throwing money on me. These are my clientele. These are my friends. These are the relationships I built. You know, strippers just come. They come get their money. They make their money and they could go their way. They don't have to sit here and text you late at night. Like, what's up, boo? I didn't have to sit there and do shit like that. You understand? I had to be flirting with niggas and telling niggas, like, yeah, pop out to my club. You understand? Do shit like that. I had to sit there and really do this for a week straight until the day that... You understand? Until this day that I work. I have to sit there and really talk to you, communicate, flirt, convince you that you might get some pussy. You know shit like that. Right. Where a bartender, a stripper, you just go in, shake your ass, get your cash, and leave. I see. You don't really have to do so much as clientele. You don't have clientele. Your clients is everybody that's in here. Bartenders is the one that's promoting. Like, if you really look at strippers' pages, you're not gonna see them ever seeing and saying, catch me here, catch me here for a week. Come show me love here. This is bartenders. Bartenders is promoting parties every single day. They could put up a regular picture and a caption to be, oh, come see me. You understand? Like, so we're the ones bringing everybody in. I don't even know who the fly strippers are anymore. There's a lot of poppin' strippers, but... Okay. There are a lot of them that's down south because you gotta realize New York is the only place where bartenders get money thrown at them. Every other place, like down south, strippers are the only ones getting money thrown at them. Bartenders don't get money thrown at them. That's something that's only in New York. So if you really want to make a good living as a stripper, go down south because these motherfuckers is buying houses and cars and everything. Like, you understand? They really have... They file taxes. Like, you have to down south. You have to get a permit and you have to go to, like, the local police station and they have to give you a permit in order for you to strip at clubs. In New York, you don't. You don't have to have the permit. You don't have to have none of that. But every other place... So every stripper's licensed. Every stripper down south is licensed. And you have to take a test for that? No, you just... You just gotta go to the local precinct with a paper and they fill out the paper and they basically give you a license because now, basically, you could file taxes. You know, you could do other things... Oh, they want to get some money. Yeah. I had no idea. They could file taxes and everything. Like, they buy houses with... Like, there's strippers down there in the south that's making 30, 40,000 a night. Like... That can't be real. Depends where you at, though. I'm telling you. Accused in Atlanta, Miami. Atlanta, Houston, like, South Baltimore, North Carolina, like... Yeah, it depends where you at. It depends where you at. Like, you're not going to go to Jackson, Mississippi. And you know, it's a $40,000 worth of money. Yeah, like Vegas. You get in there getting it. 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Additional terms and conditions may apply. Visit BoostMobile.com or your nearest retailer for details. All right, let's get back to the show. So how did you and Barty get so cool? Barty's under me. Like, when it comes to blood, like, she's with me. Y'all jump Barty in? Barty fought, yeah. Hold on. How long you known her? I knew her a while. A while? What's a while? Couple years, like, five, six years. Okay, so she- But Barty was this- Yeah, I'm just forgetting how young Barty is, yeah. And Barty was- She was blood before she even met me. Yeah. She was blood. So she was jumped into your set before you even knew she was? Yeah. So when she met you, I don't know what they call the women that are the dons and what do they call the women? Mm-hmm. You just the boss. I'm just the boss. Okay, okay. So why did y'all- Certain stuff can't be said. So there's a name for what a female boss is in the bloods, but you're not gonna say what it is. Yeah. Gotcha. That's just me. Why did y'all become so cool? It's just you. Because you don't like people, so why did y'all become so cool? Okay, so when I first got around her, I had to see what type of person she was, and Cardi is a genuine person. Absolutely. And I feel like because of- Because she's different, because she comes from a different lifestyle, a lot of people don't understand her, and they don't see her pain. I was there when she was crying, and when she was sitting here really trying to get out there, I was there when she didn't have nothing. I was there when everybody was trying to use her. I was there when she got used. You understand? I was there when she gave her on, didn't get credit for it. I was just there for everything. So it was like, I just started fucking with her as a person. She is a real genuine person. Remember, I get real protective when I feel like somebody's getting misused or somebody's trying to bully or pick because Cardi's not a punk, but she's not as aggressive as me. You understand? So it's like, why you fucking with her when I'm right here? You understand? Why go to her when you can just come to me? And especially now when it comes to like, she's a whole million there. Why the fuck are you playing? You don't violate her heart and coming for her. When it's 30 other bitches that we don't got nothing. You feel me? We don't got no millions come for us because we have nothing to lose. So why are you going to a person that has nothing to lose? I'll take that. You feel me? You beat me then you can holler at her. How'd you feel about when you hurt her? That's a dope video game. What is that? It's a dope video game. You get through Starbrem, you got to go to Cardi. How'd you feel about that little scuffle between her and Nikki? Did that really bother you? It really bothered me, of course, because I'm in jail at the time. You understand? So I'm in jail and I honestly feel like if I was there, it would not have happened. And I stand by what I say. It definitely would have happened that way. Before she would have had that night, I would have had that night. Period. And even if I see Riley to this day, I'm going to smash Riley. No, we don't want to encourage that. What do you mean by smash? We don't want to encourage that though. What do you mean by smash though? What I mean is you feel me? I'm with whatever with whoever. I'm with whatever with whoever. You feel me? I feel away against her because at the end of the day, you feel me? You taking on somebody else's beef, which is cool because I take on my friend's beef. But the friend is here now. You understand? I'm here now. So since you taking on somebody else's beef, you taking on Nikki beef or whatever the situation is, let me take on Cardi beef. Let's have a one-on-one. Well, here's the thing to start. Like you do have a lot to lose because you have your freedom to lose. And I think that you have a future. I'll sit up again for my friend. Huh? I'll sit up again for my friend. But why though? I done sat up for less. What about like a charity boxing? That could work. Free one, too. You know? It really doesn't matter. I think we could do a nice little charity boxing event. Do you know? Or a charity mud wrestle? I'm not doing a mud wrestle. Okay. I was just throwing it out there. And I just feel like... We squash the beef forever. Everything squash. Everybody's friends. We don't have to get like real violent. I just hate the rap shit. We're not going to ever be friends because we wasn't friends in the beginning. You understand? So we're not going to sit here and smash it and be like, oh yeah, we're friends now. We wasn't having friends. How do we avoid people getting really hurt? That's what I'm trying to say. But we still let the aggression out. They mind a business. That's how you not get really hurt. I see. You mind your business. If you don't mind your business, then you all for it. Like you understand, just like I'm all for it. Everything has repercussions. I'm not the biggest, toughest person in the world. You understand? Everything has repercussions. If you want to not get hurt, you mind your business. Once you don't mind your business or the business that pays you, you're all for it. You know, if Joe Olstein tweeted that, it'll get a million retweets. Million. Mind your business and you won't get hurt. Mind your business and you won't get hurt. I still think that there's something that we could do for charity, like a little backyard brawl or something. Well, you know, the NYPD doesn't let me do charity. Bumblebee tour to backyard brawl. That's a good one. Let's talk about that. The NYPD doesn't let me do charity. You was in your hood this weekend. You was in Brooklyn. No, I was in Queens. Queens, I'm sorry. Yeah, I was in Queens. And you were doing the charity event for the kids. No. What was you doing? I was chilling. Oh, I heard you was, that's what Angela E. reported this morning, that you was doing the charity event for the kids. Oh, for real? That's what you did? Yeah. Angela E. lied. Yeah. No, she's lied. Yeah. She lied. I wasn't doing anything for the kids. I was just out there chilling with the homies. You know, I broke hearty out and shit like that. And I had a charity event coming up on August 27th. Got you. That I wanted to do a school fundraiser for the kids. I wanted to, you know, give back, backpacks, 300 backpacks and stuff like that. And everything was set up. The principal, we met, me and my manager met with the principal. We met with the school. We checked everything out. We, you know, we was, everything was basically in process. Everything was set. Then all of a sudden they call me and tell me, oh, I need to meet with your manager right away. Like, this is urgent. Like, you know, the NYPD contacted us. And I'm like, okay, what did they contact you about? And they basically blew it off. Like, basically we can't have you. Like, you understand, like they said that it's not safe and it's too much and all this other extra stuff. And it's like, how is it not safe? Because the NYPD does a lot when it comes to my parties. They call the owners, you know, of the clubs and be like, don't let her in there. You know, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, Millie. And the club still does because they know I'm bringing a bag. You know, they're not stopped. But this is just a regular civilian, you know, principal who doesn't really know much about anything. So she just basically got shook and was like, you know what? We can't do this. I'm sorry. You know, I know this was for the kids and I really want you there because I went to that school. So it was like, now it was just like, you know what? I'm over it. Like, I don't even want to find nowhere else. My manager wanted me to just find somewhere else. And it's like, no, it's easier to do wrong. I'm saying it's harder for me to sit here and do good because I'm taking my own personal money and my own personal time while I have a million things going on. In reality, I don't even home two months. You understand? So I'm doing a whole bunch of things that I'm trying to give back to the kids. And the only reason I want to do this is because when I grew up, I didn't see it. It wasn't around. You understand? Like, I don't know if they was having back to school things, but I never was part of them. So I really wanted to do this because right now I'm comfortable. I'm able to spend some money and be comfortable still. I'm not going to go broke doing this, you know? So I feel like for them to do this is like, nah, fuck it. Like, you know what it is? Like, I have no kids. Well, they want you to be discouraged. They want you to be discouraged because they want you to say, man, being good, trying to be good is too hard. I'm going to go back to the street and do some bullshit. I don't feel like I'm going to go back to the streets, but it's like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to bend over backwards to do good. I'm not going to bend over backwards. You understand? I'm not going to break my back to do good. But that's what I'm saying. They want you to be discouraged. They don't want you to give back to your community. They want those kids in those hoods to see the same bullshit that you saw growing up. So it keeps the cycle going. So in order to break the cycle, you got to do stuff like that. I feel like they didn't have an issue with me giving back. They had an issue with me giving back. Ooh. I like that. That's just how I personally feel. Yeah. You should tweet that. Your P.O. would like that. Now that's solid. You think you have a problem with this? Nah, that's solid. They're like, yo, that YPD don't got a problem with me giving back. They got a problem with me giving back. That's a solid. That's a solid. I honestly feel that way. I don't feel like it was the giving back part. I feel like it was me giving blacks because if I feel like, if I had this in a different type of area where it wasn't Brownsville, you understand where Brownsville needs it. You understand? Then it would be a problem. Everybody's like, oh, do it in Manhattan. Do it here. Why? I'm not from Manhattan. I'm not from there. I want to have it where I'm from. You understand? I want to have it in the mayor area in a community that I know needs it. Like we even went, me and my manager even went to this other spot, which was like better in a way because it had ACs and stuff like that. But that whole area, that whole community, they do not need no type of anything. Inspiration. Like they don't need nothing. That area was kind of rich in a way. Like, you know, that area of Brooklyn had money. I wanted to do it where I know they needed it. Yeah. But that's the point. They don't want you to provide that inspiration to those kids in those communities because they want them to see the same shit that you saw and make the same mistakes. It's crazy because I had, like, so much celebrities popping out. Like, you know, I just had a lot of things going on, but it's like, it is what it is. Like, I'm not going to sit here and fight y'all for something that I'm not even getting anything out of. I'm not getting nothing out of this. All I was doing this was for me and, you know, I personally wanted to do it. I'm not getting nothing out of it. I'm not getting no money. I'm not getting no, no cl... I'm not getting shit. Like... I also want you to know that the media don't know shit because we goddamn reported that you had the charity event and the shit got shut down. And I was saying, maybe it got shut down because Cardi was dead and it was a bunch of people so it might have been a hazard. I don't... Uh-uh. That's what we reported this morning. No. Literally. That's wrong. You didn't get no text about that? Nobody... That's probably what your PO was talking about. Okay. So, no, my father did hit me up and said that Power One to Five One. No. What is it? Ten Ten Wins. Ten Ten Wins said Cardi's best friend stripper... Cardi's stripper best friend, uh-uh-uh, so he caught me about that because he's mad that everybody keep thinking that I was a stripper. So that's all he caught me about. Like, you know, my dad was really upset that y'all caught me a stripper. That's all. Isn't that complimentary a bit? What, being caught is something that you're not? No, it's like... It's not about... It's not about that I'm a stripper. It's a simple fact that even if they would have been like, oh yeah, like, say I was a nurse and I know you're Cardi's best friend and construction worker. It's a simple fact that that's not me. I understand that completely, but at least they're looking and you're like, she's hot enough to be one. No, you got a model face. Ugly strippers. That is true. Yeah, but... That just got nice bodies. Right, but I feel like that would be labeled like, you know, Cardi's friends... Yeah, Cardi's friends. Cardi's friends. What I'm saying is they're looking at a picture of you, right? They don't know even if you're a stripper, they're like, but she could be. I'd pay for it. If you Google me, my name is Brooklyn, which is not my name. And also, I'm a stripper friend. I'm her stripper friend. I'm a friend that's a... I'm from the strip club. I was a stripper. Like, everything that's on Google about me is Cardi's friend. Because you worked in the strip club. That's it. Because I worked in the strip club as a bartender. Hot chick working in the strip club? I'd make that mistake. And it's not even that, too. My friend was a stripper. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So then that falls into the, oh yeah, she must have been one, too. You know, that's probably where they're... You know, speculation. That's probably where they met. I didn't realize it. I didn't even know her when she was dancing. You know, so... What's the most you've been offered for a lap dance? I've never been offered anything. Nobody ever was like, listen, please, can you give me a lap dance? Forget the lap dance. How much have you been offered to fuck? Really? Because they ain't playing with me. They haven't even offered money for sex? Like that to me? Never? Nah. Is that disrespectful to offer you money for that? Um, yeah, it's disrespectful to offer me money for that. Like, you the fuck? But it's like... But it's the simple fact that Cardi and a lot of people are really like, you know, internationally known and stuff like that, I'm really street known. So niggas know not to play with me like that. I'm gonna take it at straight disrespect and I'm not taking disrespect from nobody. But what if this guy like me, what if I walk in there with a shirt that has flowers on it? I'm definitely gonna be mad. You're not even my same race. Why the fuck has you offered me that? What is wrong, white boy? What the fuck is wrong with you? That's how open-minded I am. Well, I'm not. Yeah, but look how progressive I am. Not that much. That's not that open-minded that you feel me, you could just walk in here and because you see a black girl, there's lots of black girls. You're the one. That's what I want to spend my money on. Exactly. So I go, look at all the black girls, all the Latinos, all the white girls. I look at you and I'm like, oh my God. See, but now I have the mindset where it's like, I probably would have been like, nah, you good, but if you would have caught me back then, probably would have launched you, boo boo. Okay. Now what if, I don't know, that makes sounds dangerous. No, what if you walked up to me with a knot of money? Probably not a haircut. Andrew walked up to you with a knot of hundreds. He says reparations. Yo, I got a guy in here right now. He's wearing this much right now. This is how much we're going to split. Don't play with me. What if I walk in, what if I walk in like this and I go, listen, I understand the dynamics of this strip club. I understand that you are a waitress and I understand that you serve the drinks here. But you know, I'm behind the bar. I'm not like a bar girl. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Yeah, yeah. I go, I go, I understand that you were behind the bar. I understand what's going on here. But I have never laid eyes on such a beautiful woman in my entire life. It's hard for me to do this while you're looking at your phone. But I have never. She's lining you up just in case. Right? She's protecting somebody right now with you wearing just in case. I've never laid eyes on such a beautiful woman in my entire life. And I understand that you don't normally dance, but what would it take to get a dance from you? What if I prefaced it like that? Anything. I would even be, first of all, that conversation is too long. Like you see how you just lost me? Yeah. I'd have been lost at the end too in a strip club full of music. Like I'd have been lost. Like first of all, you're saying too much. Like what do you want? Do you want a henny with Coke? Do you want some ice? What the fuck do you want? Probably wouldn't order the henny with Coke. Yeah, yeah. You would have had to break that down. But what if I was like char, what if I was like cute about it also? And then you're like, you're like, oh, he's so cute. I see money in the club. Like you feel me? Like I don't see cute. I don't give a fuck of you the ugliest motherfucker in here. How is your pockets looking? Like, you know, like I'm not looking for stuff like that. This ain't finding your match. Like I'm in the club looking for the bread. Like what's up? Like where's the money at? Like, you know. So you would have lost me even with all that conversation because it's so long. Like, you know, it's so noisy and that conversation was super long that you just lost me just now. Right. What if I came up and I just put a tuna can on the table? Just slightly just put it right there. I didn't say anything. I'd have been looking down to see if I have a sock. Yeah. That's the match.com that you'd have been looking for. The sock and the tuna can. Yeah, because I want the sock to hit you. Like, you know, like, why the fuck did he just give me this tuna? Where's the, that's disrespectful? Where's the sock and the sock? What am I supposed to do? What if right when you say that I put a sock right next to the tuna? Oh, my pussy fight would have been way. What if my pussy fight investigated me, motherfucker? That mean you are into me. See, I'm not sure if I'm one of my motherfuckers. You cracked the code. You cracked the code. I got it. Crazy. I'm one of my motherfuckers. I'm not in Charlotte. You didn't believe in me. But then I came through. You came through. So here you go. The sock, the sunk kiss, and then what do I do? I just walk away from the bar. Oh, no, no, no. I got to come after you. I got to come after you, baby. You researched me. What have you heard? Yeah, you bugged me. What have you heard? What have we got to do this way? Dude, I don't have a handle. Whoa, who's the next dog? Who's the next dog? Who's the fucking next dog? We're riding together. Fuck you. You know, you just told millions and millions of dudes how to get at you, right? No. You're going to get mad socks and tuna cans now. Thanks. Where's that for you out in the streets? Show us Albuquerque. You do have a very beautiful face, though. I need the fresh one. You have a very beautiful, like you're like a model. Thank you. Thank you. When did you come into your own and realize that, though? I think probably after being hurt so much, like, you know, about guys is like, are you dumb and bad? Like, you know, like, I don't know. Like after a while, I started realizing my growth, but I still be having moments as a female. You know, everybody, every female has their, you have to have my insecure moments where it's like, oh, my God, like, you know how, like, there's bun. I always wear a bun and I always get, like, criticized for it. Like, I always get people cursing me out on Instagram, like, oh, change up your hair. And then I have to think about it, like, bitch, I got hair. Like, you know, like, at least I got hair to put in a bun because some people don't have hair to put in a bun. But, you know, it's times where I just be like, damn, maybe I should change up my hairstyle or maybe I should do this and maybe I should do that. But then it's like, nah, fuck that. I don't give a fuck how they feelin' because at the end of the day, I'm like, gonna love it. Like, you know, I love it. So, like, you feel me? I like it. As long as I like it and that's all that matters. But it took me a long time to find myself. Like, I talk a lot about it on, like, the podcast that I have coming up. Keeping it beaut. Keeping it beaut. Yes, it just came out today. How do you spell beaut? B-U-T-E. Ooh! I thought it was, like, beautiful, but B-E-A-U-T. No, we don't say C's over here. And if you're gonna be down, you have to realize that. No, no. So how do you... I like how I'm down. Fucking do the work. I'm lying to you now. So listen, you're down south. Right? You run into a racist white man. Okay. Right? He called you a nigga. Like, fuck you. You gotta say cracker, right? I don't think I would go back and forth with him. Oh, you wouldn't even get to the racial slur. No, like... Oh. Okay, here's a good example. Yeah. Here's a good example. I don't think I would argue about that. Wait a minute. This is a big deal. Right? What are you gonna say? Somebody has like a heart attack or something on the street. Right? And you're... You need, you know, people to come. So you're like, ball the ambulance. And they're like, what? Huh? No, it don't work like that. Wait, what? No. It's gotta be... If it's a word that starts with C. Yeah, call the ambulance. But you're like, ball the ambulance. Oh, ball. Okay, I'm gonna hit that call. What are you fucking talking about? Ball the ambulance. I don't think I would be caring to any... Okay, let me not say that. I don't think I would be telling anybody call the ambulance. You're just gonna walk past somebody on the screen. You mind your business. I'm on the business that pays me. I'm on in my fucking business. You're saying business though. Listen, let me tell you something. Oh, you can say business. See, I'm confused. Yeah, you can say business. That would not be a good deal. Yeah, yeah. Can you say... Can you say kuchi? Can you like... No, I'd be like buchi. So eat this buchi. Eat this buchi. That sounds like a man's pussy. Like butt pussy, yeah. So butt... Right? In that what the trans chicks would say. Come get some of this buchi. You can say whatever you want to say, honestly. This is like back in the day where you could only say certain terms. You could say whatever the fuck you want. Like just to be funny, we say little stuff like big red, you know, big and beg, be and pull, stuff like that. But it's not setting stone. You could say whatever the fuck you want to say. If you have to say a C, you can do it. It's a girl named Sierra from Love and Hip Hop. Right? And she has like... B. Yeah, B. No, it starts with a S. So I can say it. Ah. Correct yourself. Don't correct me. You're right, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, son. Absolutely right. I warned you when we came in. I didn't get a chance to warn him. It'll never happen again. I warned you. I gotta warn you. It'll never happen again. Don't ever correct me. Yes, I'm sorry. Ever again. I apologize. You don't know what lies in here. That is very true. I'm not trying to go back to Joe this soon. Now I will say you did say correct never mind. Everybody leave. I got the camera off. I got the fucking camera off. I got the fucking camera off. I got the fucking camera off. Get the fucking tuna! Get the tuna! Somebody get me a tuna! Now! I need a fucking tuna. Settle it down! Settle it down! Okay, so Sierra. I'm not playing with you no more. No you said, I said Sierra. I'm so dead ass. I'm sorry. I apologize. All right. Okay, go. I'm trying to keep it but you turned me into somebody else. Okay. I don't think you want Starfin. No, I don't want that. I was really spared right there at that moment. I was absolutely spared. Okay, so Sierra, right? She has a shirt that says, oh, mind the business that pays you. And I always sit there and just think about stuff like that. So I don't give a fuck what you're doing in the street. Unless it's a fight, I might wanna record it. But other than that, I don't give a fuck. You could have a heart attack for all I know. You could just sit here and try to spit in my face while I'm trying to help you. I don't know. You understand, people do wicked, crazy shit. So it's like, I really will walk away and not give a fuck. That's not my problem. It's millions of millions. Why the fuck do I gotta be the good one? Is that shit still excites you? If you see a fight in the street, you've been in so much fights and altercations. Yeah, it's not excite me, but let's see who wins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see what's going on here. But it has to be funny in a way. You know, I'd be seeing little guy scuffles and it's like, what are you going on? You ain't gonna knock him out yet or something. Stuff like that, little altercations where you know the little cars and they get out their cars and they just, no, I'm keeping it pushing. But a lot of times I really do mind the business that pays me because little fights are turning to shootouts and stuff like that. I'm tired of getting shot at. Like, you know, like I'm over that life of getting shot at. I don't even want to run no more. 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Like, I don't have people do anything for me. Like, you understand, I don't have nobody who just goes out their way and do stuff for me. Like, so for him to, you know, push me in the direction of star, I know you could do this. I feel you could do this. I knew you for a long time, do this. And you know, hook me up with my manager. Hook me up with this, hook me up with that. It's like, why? You understand, you're sitting in jail facing a life sentence. Yeah, you're right. He texted me too late. I would tell everybody, suck my dick. Like, you understand? That's how I would be. And it's like, I asked him the other day, like, how the fuck could you even still have, because it was days when I was down in jail. So how can he's like, because you know, if I don't smile, I'm gonna cry. And I felt that, because it's mad times that, you know, if I don't smile, thinking about my life, I will cry. But it's like, he's went above and beyond for me. And I never even knew him in the street like that. Really? What y'all mean? No. Y'all meant like why he was? Okay, so listen, why he was in jail. Okay, we never, we never met. Okay. Me and him has never met face to face. But when he was in jail and I was in MCC, I had one as a security, like one of the CO's, give him a picture of me when he was in, I think he was in a box at the time. I'm like, oh, text on here, right? I know that he knows some of the same people I know. You feel me? We both in the street, so we know of each other. I'm like, send him this picture, tell him, get right. Like, you feel me? Like, get right, like jerk off to it. Like, you feel me? Touch that deck. You feel me? I know my picture's looking nice. You feel me? So I sent like a little three, four pictures and told him like, do your thing. Like, you know, here. Here's something good to look at. You feel me? And they sent it up to him and I got shipped to another jail. And we just got in touch when I came home, you know? Like, we got in touch and stuff like that, but I have never personally met him in real life. So for him to go above and beyond the way he does for me is like, cause I asked him like, why are you doing this? Like, you know, like what? Like, I'm always used to somebody having a reason. Like, you know, what is your agenda? Like, what do you want? Like, and he's like, nah, like, I just see something in you. And you know, when I see something in somebody, I'm just a genuine dude. And it's like, when I say he calls me every day, he sits here and sends me inspirational stuff. And it's like, damn, this nigga really believes in me. Yeah, he and me two weeks ago, he was like, yo. Like, that should be touching my heart cause I don't be like, besides my family members, which you're supposed to care for me, you're my dad. You know, like, you're supposed to do this. I don't be having people that just gives a fuck about me. And don't want anything from you? Yes. Other than to see you succeed. I don't even have people who want stuff from me and gives a fuck about me. The impressive thing. I just have people who want stuff from me. Like, they don't even give a fuck. They still don't give a fuck. They not even pretending to give a fuck. I think the impressive thing about someone in Texas situation is, like most people realize that, you know, helping others makes them feel good or helps themself. Once they have an abundance of, you know, money or power, it's rare that people who have seemingly nothing realize that. And he's at a point right now where everything's been taken for him. Like he's facing everything. Facing a life sentence. Exactly, and it's very easy in that moment to like internalize and just take from people. Hey, what are you doing for me? Listen, let me tell you something. If I had a life sentence, the way I will be violating officers, you know, violate, I would just not care no more. I don't care. I don't care. Everything's a go. I'm beating you up. I'm stealing from you. I'm taking this. What you gonna do? I'm doing everything. Cause at the end of the day, I have nothing else to live for. Maybe you'd realize midway through that that those things didn't make you any happier. They actually made you more sad and that helping other people that you believed in, like Texas is doing for you, actually gives you a little bit of joy even in the darkest time of your life. I don't even think I would feel like that. I think tax-mined is way beyond minds. Like, you know what I'm saying? I think he's way smarter than me. He went through way more probably things than me. Maybe. You know, cause I wouldn't, I'm alive, I see him say, oh, maybe halfway through I would have felt, no, it would have made me feel good. That's how I personally feel. I feel like it would have made me feel good. So for him to be put in that position and knowing already like that, wouldn't it make me feel no way? You understand that shit? Wouldn't it make me feel happier? That's a strong-ass mind. You know, like, regardless of whatever it is, it's a million people out here that he knows that he could have helped. He did not know me like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's never seen me in person. But he saw something in you. You know what I'm saying? Like, I see something in you. Like, you remind me of tax-mined a lot. He sees, him and my men just see so much in me that it scares me because I don't see it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, she's right there, Alex. Oh, Alex. Okay, salute to Alex. All right. Can you look at what happened to tax and then make sure that you avoid some of the- Listen to what I said. I said she reminds me of tax. Which is a great thing, but it's also scary as well. Right. You think so? I think tax intellect is like so beyond my- That's not what we're referring to. What makes you think you don't have intellect? You have a different experience and you have a different language to express your experiences with. That don't make you any less intellectual. In a way, I feel like anything can happen to anybody, but I do feel, I do look at what happened in a position that, you know, he was put in and I definitely know, like, I don't want to be put in that position, you know, and stuff like that. So you definitely have to watch liars out here and people who will just lie for no reason. Very true. Who will just come up with you and stuff like that. What is he saying that you use a lot? It's smart people learn from their own mistakes. Smart people learn from their own mistakes, while people learn from the mistakes of others. But that's why you can't let people trick you off the screen. You know what I'm saying? Even in the position that you're in now because you are Cardi's friend and you do have a bright future and Cardi is going to have a lot of issues with people, but all of y'all have to move differently because none of y'all are on the street no more. Yeah, like, I'm- Otherwise it's too easy to access. Don't be too easy to access. I was so sad for her. Like, I'd be so sad for her because Cardi hasn't reached my mind level yet of not giving a fuck. And it scares me because I remember when I used to pay people like private detectives to find out where this bitch on Instagram lives. So, because I'm gonna go to her house because she popping shit, you feel me? And she think just because she on Instagram, I ain't gonna find you, hoe. But guess what? I'm gonna pay somebody so I can't find you. I was at that level. Like, I was at the level where anything somebody said about me affecting me because it's like, what did I do to you? I didn't do nothing. We got the same 24 hours. You understand? I don't have nothing more than you. Nothing. I done been broke million times. I done came back. I done slept out my car for two months and nobody knew about it. Like, you understand? So I was like, I've been through mad shit. I done almost got raped. I done, you know, I had a DV situation. Like, you know, I've been through a lot of stuff that a lot of people who looking at me don't know that I used to really care about people's feelings. Like, care. You know how you sit down and you be like, man, I don't give a fuck. I used to say that and I used to give a fuck. Like, I gave a fuck. Like, I really did care how people, if it could make me upset, I care. If it could make me get out of my character where I want to find where you at, smack your daughter. You feel me? Beat your mother up, spit on grandma. Like, I'm upset. So, going to jail. I like how you ran on that family tree just now. Like, you're that effin'less queen. Yeah, mama, daughter first, then mama and your grandma. Don't just the oaths. I'm getting everybody. You got it, you got it. Eight through 80, old ugly and crazy. Type family unit. So, going to jail is what changed me a lot and not because I didn't have a phone at that, too. I didn't have a phone. And when my family or friends used to come and tell me about stuff on the outside that people were saying to me, I used to be like, listen, listen, listen bitch, let me tell you something. Can I escape? Are you going to make me escape? Because it's nothing I could do about the outside right now. I cannot, it's a lot of people who could jail both ways. I can't jail like that. I can't jail worrying about the outside. I can only jail worrying about what's going on in here. Because this is the only thing I can control. I can't control out there. I can't stop a person from writing this. I can't talk back. I can't, you know, defend myself. So, I stopped caring about Instagram and what people said like, I didn't care. Like it didn't, like it really doesn't affect me. And I could see that it still affects her and I can't tell her nothing because I was that. I was that same girl. I was that, it took me going to jail. And it's like, I told her like, yo, you ain't going to never feel it. You know why? Cause you ain't going to never not have your phone. Yeah, I'm going to give her, I'm going to give Cardi a book called digital minimalism. Cause I see how it affects her, too. And you know, she a read, but when is she going to have the time, too? Like, you know what I'm saying? When is she really going to have the time to sit down and read a book? Like she does a million things in a day. Even when I call her and she doesn't pick up, I curse to the fuck out. Bitch, I know you're on your phone looking at Instagram, into the phone. Into the phone world. Cause your phone is in her hand all day looking at something on Instagram. You understand? Like she's just, it affects her. It really, really affects her. It affects her to the point where I could see like she'll get upset, she'll start crying. You understand? She, it looked like she don't want to eat. Like it'll really, really affect her. And it's like, damn, that was mean. It's got to be tough for her, too. Cause that's how she came up. Like I started fucking with Cardi So like that was her thing. So now she's just mega superstars and that she got to be multiplied times a million. Yeah, like she really, like, and it really, you know when a person really gets upset? Like she really, it really affects her. Like it's not something that, oh, she's just doing this for clout. It really affects her. It really gets her mad when she's minding her business. So, you know, people is just basically hating on her, discouraging her and stuff like that. It really gets to her and it's like, it really used to get to me, too. What I look like sitting here telling her, yo, don't let that shit get to you when it took me going to jail not to let it get to me. It didn't take me being outside. I didn't have the strength outside for me not letting it get to me. It took me going to jail and not having a fucking choice for me to grow up and just be like, you know what, I don't give a fuck. So I know it's not going to get different for her. She's always going to have her phone. Have you had to fuck somebody up for Cardi, ever? Yeah. And I will always continue to. Morning. At a certain point in time, it's bad for business to answer every single person that says something. No, okay, so back in the day, back in the day, I used to listen, back in the day, I used to always go underneath her comments. People's that's getting mad, defend her, curse them out, blah, blah, blah. I used to do all that. You understand, I used to pop out and stuff like that. Now it's just to the point where I let people talk because it doesn't affect me. You understand? I let people talk. But if it ever comes a situation where I'm around her or if I'm around a certain person and they're disrespecting her, even if her not being there, you're not going to disrespect my friend. Like you feel me whether she's here or not here. So it'll get to blows. But as far as the social media thing, I don't do the social media thing no more because I'm over it now. You understand? I was arguing with any and everybody I was taking on whoever. I don't give a fuck. You can't give people too much power like that. You give them power. And that's how I feel now. But at that point in time, I don't give a fuck about giving you a little Instagram power. Like you feel me, see me. Like come pop out. I want to put my hands on you. Like you understand? Because my friend is sad. My friend is calling me and she's sad. Have you ever caught one of those Instagram trolls in real life? No. I always wonder how fun it is. That's gotta be of some type of joy. Listen, there's so many that I want to catch in real life, but I have not caught them in real life. And on top of that, caught them in real life. And on top of that, I really be not paying attention to how certain people look. So it was even a situation, I got into a situation with Fetty Wops, one of his like old bitches or some shit like that. And she used to be talking shit about me on the gram, right? It had to take my friend to be like, oh, you know that's her? For me to be like, oh, that is her. Grab her and drag her. You understand? I don't even realize that that's you bitch. You was just living your best life, not realizing like, oh yeah, she doesn't know it's me. Oh, no bitch, somebody told me it's you. So it's like, I get a lot of that. Like I have to ask, a lot of times I have to ask my manager, who's that again? That is that person, right? And hopefully Alex is lying to you if she knows the people you have beef with. Listen, just the other day, ask Alex, I say, Alex, Alex. A situation approaches me while I'm going to meet her for a business meeting. This is business now. You understand? I'm going to meet her for a business meeting and her and Dustin, I have a business meeting. This is with the Dustin. And he, she comes up to me, a girl comes up to me that I know from like a while ago. You know, like from high school and stuff like that. And she comes to me like, girl, what's up? It's a problem. You see the old star would have been like, boop, boop, boop, boop. Now it was a problem. You understand? But I'm like, it's not a problem because it really isn't. It really isn't a problem. But I told her, it's not a problem, but we could take it wherever you want to take it. You know, and I automatically grabbed like, as soon as she came, I gave my phones to Alex. Like, here, hold this. So she's thinking this is a friend of somebody or probably somebody that want to take a picture with me. So when she realized what it really is, now she gets closer. You feel me? Okay, Alex is down the rock. I didn't know my manager is ready to get a shake in too, but okay. So then I'm looking at the girl and I'm like, you feel me okay? She can't get 10% if you did. Right? Very true. Not yet anyway. Let's get her out first. Wait, what's the time? Get a catalog, then we change. So then I'm sitting in, I'm telling the girl like, it's no issue, but you know, it's wherever you want to take it. Like you feel me? And she's like, oh, all right. I just thought it. I'm like, well, it's no issue, but wherever you want it to go, it could go. And it's like just simple things like that where I'm minding my business. I'm trying to better myself. I just came home from jail. I'm going to a business meeting and somebody from the past from high school, which I've been out of high school for probably seven, eight years or something. Like, you know, comes and approaches a situation that probably was from seven, eight years ago that I don't even remember what the real situation is. And it's like, it could have just went the total opposite because if it was me before jail, I'd just been like, fuck it. Like it is, you pressing me. Like you feel me? For you to even come to me and ask me, is there a problem? Obviously you want one. Now are you going to leave this young lady alone? You're not going to? Of course. Like, I really didn't have an issue. I would have told her like, if it was an issue, I'd have been like, yeah, there's an issue. What's up? You want to say I told her like, no, there's no issue. There's no problem. But if you, you know, if you want one, if you want to take it there, cool. But I really had no problems because that girl was really a friend of mine at one point in time. I don't even know where we fell off at. Like, I don't even know why we're not friends like we was because that was really a close friend of mine. Like we done went to suspension schools and everything. Like, you understand because we fight together. So it was like, I don't, I don't understand where it went wrong. But just like a situation like that where I'm trying to move forward, you can just easily just get pushed back. So what does Starbrem want to do moving forward? Like if you're speaking things in the fruition right now. Okay. So a lot of people, just because, you know, I have a social following and because I have a lot of people that's in the industry that I'm cool with. Like, you know, not only Cardi, but I'm cool with Remy, you know, a lot of people. Shout out to Remy. She was the first person that ever put money on my books and nobody knows that. And she put money on my books every single month and I didn't even know her like that. That's another person I did not even know. She put $300 on my books every single month for the time that I was in jail. And as soon as I got sentenced and I went downstairs and I checked my account, money was there for Mackie. Did you meet her beforehand? I seen one time, I seen her at a club because I had a big fight in a club. So she remembered that big fight that I had in the club. And then I seen her at two different other occasions where, you know, she was performing at a club and it was just, I mean, at a concert and we just, you know, hi, whatever, you know, little thing like that, but it wasn't no real. We got close while I was in jail. Like, we got real close while I was in jail. What was the fight that happened in the club that Remy saw? Okay, so. Remy respects violence. Okay, yes. No, she does. So you must have really been putting your work on a woman in your book. Yeah, actually, I was fighting this one bitch and some other bitches tried to jump in and I was just brawling with all of them. You feel me? But at one point in time, people's recording it, somebody kicked me with a sock on and the sock looked at Remy dirty. So I went on Instagram and I had a video and I was like, I have money for whoever could find me to sock. Whoever this dirty ass sock belongs to. That's like the hoods in the relish it, yo. That's like the hoods in the fellowship. Whoever this sock belongs to, I'm willing to pay $10,000 to find this bitch. Wow. You get her. Cause first of all, you kicked me. Second of all, you kicked me with a sock and third of all, it was dirty. You couldn't kick me with a clean sock? Cannot do that. You couldn't have a clean sock. Why are you having a sock on in the club? You feel me? Why do you even have no shoes on? If you're gonna have no shoes on, have some slippers on. Why the fuck would you have on a dirty ass sock? Like, and this party just begun. So you can't tell me you was walking around a party. No. You got that dirty sock. You showed up with a dirty sock. So when that happened, the fight that I put that up and stuff like that, Remy came under and she was like, yeah, bitches, where's the sock? Where's the sock, bitches? Like you feel me? Where's the bitch with the sock? We got the money for the bitch with the sock. And then we just got close like that and stuff like that. What if I was a person you beat up back in the day with a sock and they were trying to get revenge? That's how I felt. Cause I swear to God, I was fighting one person and then all of a sudden I'm fighting five. Like, you know, and that's how it always usually is in clubs when I fight. It's like, now it's like, oh yeah, we got free fall. Let's get started. How tall are you? I'm five, three and a half. Get the fuck outta here. Count my half. With the soul of a six-fold nigga. Yeah. I'm gonna fight it on my phone. I'll show you it later. I would love to see it. Can I see it now? Thank you. Did you ever find the girl, the sock girl? No, never found the sock girl. Okay, so Remy leaves the comment and y'all cool ever since. Yeah, we cool ever since. And where do I see myself, you said? That's your original question. What's the, what's the? Okay, so this is, hold on. Let me see this. Hello, let me talk. I'm about to snatch your phone. All right. I gotta find, let's, I got a lot of. I got a lot of. Everybody get your cameras out. Let's see how this goes. It's lit, it's super lit in here after that. Okay. I think this is it. Cause I had. How many fights you got in there? I have a lot, I have a lot. Just pick one and then I'll start there. I'm gonna show you. No, don't show. Why? Cause a lot of videos in here. You don't have any penises, do you? Yes. What the fuck is penises? Penises. Oh. You didn't say that, you said. Yo, come on bro. I'm wearing the red dress. And one of the times I spit on the girl and then I punched her and then she fell. Okay, let me see what we got going on here. Oh, you are in the club. This is very good. This is a lot of phones out here. Everybody is moving. Oh wow, you're very rambunctious. You're in the middle. I see you. Oh, oh wow, okay. So good. Okay, so basically a lot of people want me to be a rapper, right? A lot of people always been saying that I should be a rapper, I should be a rapper, but I feel like I wanted to do my own lane. You understand? I wanted something that is for me. So I do definitely wanna see where the podcast thing goes cause I feel I'm very outspoken. I feel like it'll go somewhere, but I just wanna do something that makes me happy. I don't wanna do what other people want me to do. I don't wanna follow in my friends footsteps. You know, only because I'm at a point in my life where a lot of things don't affect me and I don't want people to be like, oh, she's only a rapper cause of Cardi. Oh, she only made it cause of Cardi. Oh, she didn't make it cause of Cardi. Oh, you understand? It's gonna be cause of Cardi. I'm Cardi's friend, yeah, but I'm star brim at the end of the day. Like, you understand? Like, I was star brim and known before Cardi cause y'all know me cause of Cardi, that's y'all fault. You understand? That's not my fault that you know me cause of her. I don't wanna do something that doesn't make me happy. Whatever I do, it's not about the money no more. I've been broken millions of times. I don't care about that. I can't give my time back. Have you ever tried to rap? No, I have never tried. Let's start right now. Let's do it. I don't think you should rap either. I just think you got an ill story. You and I can battle. How much money? I got bars. Let me see. Give me a hand. Hold on. No, no pulling out the phone. No, I'm pulling out money. Oh, okay. Oh, wow, you can be disrespectful. That's it? This one, two, three, four U.S. dollars. I got four U.S. dollars. I can't even do nothing with that. You couldn't give me a five. You what, what? A five? I couldn't get five dollars. I spent it on the way here, on the water and the coffee. Damn, I don't know what to tell you to. I'm not in. You're not in. The stakes aren't high enough. I'm not in. Do you know how many tuna sandwiches you can get with four and all? Nothing. Like in the city at that, I don't even think I get one. I need 25 cents at least. Damn, Star, you're probably right. I just think you got an ill story. And it's just a way to tell that story. Maybe it doesn't have to be wrapped, though. I mean, Taks had this great story and it was through podcast. That's what she does, yeah. So maybe that was a cute podcast. Butte podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just so happened that it's number one today. It came out today. Oh, it's out already? Yeah, it's out already. It came out at 8 o'clock today and it's number one in music and number 75 worldwide. I love it. Is this a loud speaker network podcast? Yes. Of course it is. Is it? Briss Marot. You know that guy. Brismarot? What? You know what to say. No, but Briss Marot, it's actually double meaning because a bris is when you cut the circumcise. Now why are we calling him Briss Marot, dude? It's Briss Marot. Briss Marot, yeah. I love this new language. Respect the bees. What are you talking about on the podcast? On this podcast, I'm talking about my Jill experience. I'm also talking about, I forgot the girl's name. Oh my God, I'm so mad. I forgot her name. She's a new art, no, she's not a new artist, but she has that song motivation and she had like the video that just came out. No, I don't know who that is. Alex, who? More. Lizzo? Social thing. What's the lady's name? Naja. That just, that sings motivation that I was talking about. Janet Jackson? No. The one that I was talking about on the podcast, the one that sings motivation that was dancing in the video, the one that I gave. Kelly Rowland? No. She just came. No money. No money. No money. I was talking about how I really, really like her, like, especially because. She don't want to battle me neither. A lot of people that don't know, I used to dance when I was young, like not strip dancing, but you know, I used to do ballet and stuff like that. So I really liked that she was doing her thing. And then on top of it. You used to do ballet? Yes. You know I come from a dance family. Don't let me lift this leg up because you know I could go all the way up. I'm just saying. Woo! Can you do second position, third position, fourth position? Yes, I can do all that. Do you want to see a picture of me in my ballet outfit? I mean, duh. I am lit. Like, I am lit. Girl, now you got me. Like. Now I'm on my, one more fight video. I was just talking about a lot of jail experience that I had, like, because of who my friend is. A lot of people think that, a lot of people think that I had the best jail sentence. Because of Cardi B, I had the worst jail sentence ever. Can everybody do that with your friend? I had CO's spitting in my food. Let's make it sample. No! Yes, I had CO's spitting in my food for five months in a box. I didn't eat. I ate oranges, bananas, and potato chips because I could peel it. You understand? They had a protective covering. Yes, other than that, I didn't eat it because once I see you spitting in my food one time, I'm not gonna trust that you not keep doing this. Why would they do that? They don't like Cardi? They don't like Cardi. They don't like that. She was anti-Trump. Like, you understand? Like, they don't like that. They used to come in like, hold on, fuck it's her to talk about my president. Fuck you now. Like, you understand? Like, they'll take it out on me. They would cut my water off for three days. My water was off and I was drinking on my toilet water. Wow. Wait, man, what? Yeah, I drank toilet water. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, what am I gonna do? That's crazy. That's so crazy. So basically Trump supporters that were the CEOs and shit? Yeah, a lot of CEOs who just didn't like, you know that I guess I was who I am on Instagram because they used to follow my Instagram. Even when she shouted me out on my birthday, I didn't know. I knew because they came and started harassing me and you know doing like a whole bunch of fuck shit because she did that. I don't have a phone. I don't know what she's doing. You understand? But they came like, oh, is your fucking birthday? Fuck out of you think you the shit because it's your birthday. They would throw my food on the floor. They would not give me tissue. So after a while, when I'm laying on the sheets, I would rip up and I would have to use that to wipe my ass. You know, because what am I gonna use to wipe the shit off my ass? What about your period on? I didn't get my period in jail. I had, before I went to jail, I made sure they get like the neuro plant thing that's in your arm. This I made sure like I pre-planted this so that I didn't get my period in jail because I know like I'll probably be a different person. You know, so it's like it prevents you from getting your period. It was like a birth control in your arm. You can stop periods? Yeah. This is like 2019. What are you talking about? Can you write this down? What is the name of this thing? You didn't know that? A neuro plant? Up there. It's like, it's so many different birth controls that doesn't make you get your period. I can stop my girl's period is what you're trying to tell me. Do it the old fashioned way. Shoot her goddamn club up. Exactly. All right, get her pregnant. All right. But yeah, so I wasn't catching my period while I was in jail. Neuro plant. So right now, podcast in your immediate future. Yes. Like I even came home fucked up. Like I didn't, I spoke about that on the podcast too because I came home not even realizing that you could eat. Like you could eat. You're free now. Like you could eat when you want to eat. Like you understand, like I had to the point where it's like... First meal, what was your first meal? My first meal wasn't even my first meal because the first day I was home, I forgot that I'm allowed to eat. What was your first legit meal? My first legit meal was soul fish and kaloo that my grandmother made. Soul fish and baloo? Yeah, that. Baloo. Yeah, that. Can we be respectful of the set? Can we be respectful of the set? All right, she unlocking her purse, B. You got that. You were trying to give me some money? I keep trying to tell you. You were trying to give me some money? Wow. You know, I'm trying to tell you. Holy shit. Stop. Stop correcting me. I'm feeling a little way. What is it? You don't want to know. I don't want to know. Oh, it looks like those Crest Floss trips. Yeah. It's gonna floss you all right. You're gonna get flow-starred. Ginger-bite it to the face. But. I forgot that I could eat. You know, and then I used to sit there in my window. I talked about this in my- Institutionalized. Yes, I was so institutionalized. I used to sit there at the window. My mom would call me, right? So she would call me and I'd just be like. And she's like, what the fuck are you smelling that? I'm like, nothing. What are you talking about? She's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm at the window. I'm watching people outside. So she's like, she's like, okay. Listen, listen. She's like, okay, no. I'm in halfway house. I can't go outside. I'm not yet, you know. So I'm like, she's like, okay. So then she called back in like an hour later and I'm doing the same thing. So she's like, what the fuck are you at the window? I'm like, listen, let me tell you something. This is the first time in five months that I could see people. In my box, because they don't like me, they covered up my window. So for five months, I didn't know whether it was six o'clock, seven o'clock, eight o'clock. The only reason I knew it was anything is because at six o'clock in the morning, that's when your breakfast tray would come around. At 11 o'clock, you know, lunch tray, stuff like that. And I used to only hear people outside. I would hear sirens. I would hear dogs barking. I would hear it, but I wasn't able to see it. So I didn't even realize that I'm happy to see construction workers and just people walking down the block and I didn't even realize it. Until my mom is like, get out the window. And it's like, I can see people. Like I'm seeing the voices and connecting faces with the voices. I'm not just sitting somewhere for five fucking months. What did that do to your mental health? Hearing voices. What did that do to your mental health? Go a little crazy a little bit. Brazy, if you will. Stop correcting, Mike. I corrected me. You know what you're doing again, you're gonna have to fight. I said brazy. I said brazy. I said what I said. I think you outcrushed on me. No. Or a brush, if you will. I'm not into like skin guys. Oh my God. I don't like pink dicks. You don't like pink dicks? No. What about beige? No. Mine's more beige. Black. It ain't black, I promise you that. If it blacked something wrong. I like brown. So what did that do to your mental health? I guess it fucked it up a little bit. I didn't notice it. You know I didn't realize it that it was fucking it up. I didn't realize that I'm going days only eating one meal a day. Not realizing like, oh shit, star, you're free. You could eat. You understand you're allowed to eat. Like I was really, I was so used to starving for five fucking months. I didn't, it's like second nature. Like I didn't even, it didn't bother me no more. I was, I'm always hungry. That's how I live life. Like you understand I'm always hungry. I survived on bananas and oranges for five fucking months. Like I survived drinking water out the fucking toilet. Like you know like this is what I survived on. Like this is, this was life. Like you understand? And it was normal. It got so normal. Like even times like it was times where I get an apple cause it's not all the time you get oranges. And I would just have to starve that day because they're giving apples on trays today. Like you understand? Or they're giving fruit that's not, it's like you know mixed fruit that's just out in like sauce and water and shit like that. You can't trust it. You're probably spitting that. I'm not eating that. Have you gotten back to a sense of normalcy yet? Not all the way. Sometimes I still forget to eat. Sometimes I still have that, I don't know. Like I just still have certain things that I catch on to. Like yo sis, you forgot to eat today. Or you don't have to be so aggressive or you don't have to be, you know, so angry or don't worry about it. Like you're not in there. Like you understand you're fine. Like you're not in there. You don't have to walk around with the scaffold between your butt cheeks. Like you know you don't have to do that. But it's certain things that I'm appreciative of like just being able to be outside. Like you understand being able to walk around freely that I just always look at like yo, I don't know unless you give me mad. Like I was just, look where I was at. Look where I was at. I wasn't even in regular jail. Like and I wasn't in regular box. I was in the box getting tortured. I was getting tortured. They wasn't giving me no, you understand? I was being tortured. They wasn't giving me my meals. They were spitting in my food. They was not giving me my mail that time. They was hanging up my phone calls. They was doing stuff that they don't normally do to people. But because I'm who I'm connected to, this is what they was doing to me. So it's not like I just had a regular jail sentence and they just took away my freedom. No, y'all took away everything. But I always had that mentality. Like y'all can handle me like this in here, but y'all won't even live to talk about it outside if y'all did this to me. Like you understand? Like you wouldn't even be able to do this to me on the outside. So you could have it. You could power struggle. You could have that. You understand? Y'all could do what y'all gotta do in here because you probably one of those motherfuckers I picked on in school. You know, you've probably was getting bullied your whole life and now you have a sense of power. So you're trying to use it, but it's okay. Cause you know what, bitch? You can't do that to me outside. And it was all cause Cardi didn't like Trump? That was one of the reasons it was not like, it was the reasons cause just cause of who she is. They just, I guess they didn't like her. They didn't like me. They didn't like that. Like they would come around like, Oh, you think you popping? Cause you got 8,000 a year account. Like, you know, shit like that. And it's like, why are you even watching my account? You broke nigga. Like, you feel me? It's not my fault that you're broke. It's not my fault. Skim, it's okay. You can do it too. That's why I'm in here. That's why that's there. Dude, you could do the same thing. If you want to skim, you know, nobody's stopping you from skimming, right? Like I had to tell him, nobody's stopping you from selling drugs. And they used to be so upset. Like I remember one officer told me that he did so much time in the Navy. And now he only gets less than 45,000 a year working here. So a lot of people was upset. Like, you know, he was really upset. Like you get less than that. As one lady says she only gets 35,000 a year. So some of that is like, what, a McDonald's worker? Yeah, yeah. Because if a McDonald's worker's in stuff and make $15 an hour, that's basically kind of like your salary in a way. But you're in here. You feel me dealing with people who could cut your face open if you move the wrong way. Massive risk for that kind of money. Yeah, so it's like, they're upset there. They're sitting here reading people case files, knowing, oh yeah, this person had a mansion. This person had this. This person had a Porsche or this type of car. And I'm driving this. You know, like that's what they're seeing. There's a lot of energy and delusion. Yeah, they look through that. Like the officers look through your case files and they see, oh, this person was this big or drug dealer. This person, big over this and this big over that. So they upset about it. Star, this is my guy, Humble the Poet. He's an author. Hi, hi. He's a rapper too. But he's very intellectual. What have you observed? Yo, this is a dope interview, man. I can sit on that. Yeah, put it on the chair. That'd be a lot better, I think. What is your assessment of Star Brim? Oh, man. I love him. Irrespective of every story that she told, she's still very considerate of other people's feelings. She wasn't, you know, we're talking about the person transitioning and she was still trying to be very considerate of that person. And I also love that no matter how much bullshit she went through, she wasn't eliciting any sympathy. She didn't sound like she was feeling sorry for herself. No, not at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She just, you just sound like you own everything that you've done. Because I feel like I did a crime. If I didn't do this and I was in here and I didn't do it, then it's like, I'm getting all this. I feel like I have no rights. You have no rights in jail. And I went to jail knowing that. I prepped. I knew that I was going to jail. You know, I got mentally, physically, and financially ready to go in. So I knew, like, at the end of the day, Star, if you didn't scan, you wouldn't be here. And if you wouldn't be going through this, no officer would be able to do this to you. So who the fuck are you to complain about something you did? I'm in here. I did it. I did that shit. I'm not in here for wrong, like, no. I wasn't wrongly convicted. They got it right. I did this shit. You feel me? I'm in here because I did a fucking crime. And I felt like no crime is bigger than another crime. I don't respect rapists, and I don't respect serial killers. But other than that, I don't give a fuck of it's tax evasion. I don't give a fuck of you selling drugs, selling your ass. A crime is a crime. There's no bigger crime, no less crime. You broke the law, period. And pedophile. That pedophile. Yeah, pedophile. I don't, yeah, of course. I don't, I don't, I don't respect anything else. So it's like, I know what I did. I know I'm in here. I'm not wrongly convicted. So if this is what I got to do, because I did wrong, oh well, like I'm not right. No, Humble said something just not that interesting, because you said you don't have empathy for people at one point. You said you got there a little bit. I said I don't be caring about stuff in the street. Like I just won't pass, yeah. But you do have empathy for your, your people, I guess. I have empathy and sympathy for them, yeah. Yeah, I think not even, yeah, it seems like you do, you seem like you are filled with a lot of empathy. Yeah, of course. I just, I just mind the business that is not my business. But if you my friend or somebody close to me, you're my business. Even when she's talking about like what she's willing to do, moving forward. She'll take a charge, she'll take the time or whatever. Like that's, that's some, on some grown adult responsibility shit. Even though she's talking from a street perspective. I thought that was super cool. I thought that what you brought up about the trans thing was really interesting. Here's this person that is trying to rape her and you're still being respectful of how they want to be labeled. Yeah, it's not, it's not how they want to be labeled. It's more so how I'm going to be labeled because at the end of the day, now I'm going to be a rat because. No, but no, no, I'm saying like. You were saying him, she hurt him. Yeah, I guess, I don't know. I guess. If you try to rape me, I'm going to call you whatever the fuck I want to call you. Yeah, like. You're a rapist. Whatever the fuck. You were rapist. I guess, I guess I do have that in me. Like, yeah, I'll just be one. Like you are what you are. Interesting. So it's like, I'm not going to disrespect you because you tried to rape me. I guess that's wrong, right? That's the perfect time. Usually. Fuck him. That's how I'm going to disrespect it. Ah, I'm still calling you him. Because that's what you're changing into. At the end of the day, I would never want somebody to tell me, you know, call me something that I'm not. Like, I don't give a fuck what I did to you, bitch. I'm a girl. Like, you understand? So, I don't give a fuck what I did to you. At the end of the day, you know the fuck I'm doing. I'm transitioning. Yeah. Respect my shit. So it's like, I don't know. Like, it's weird. That's a bar too. What? To spend time in the box because I wouldn't give him the box. Yes. And I'm going to tell you something else. I've heard a lot of jail rape stories. Yeah. I've never heard a woman being raped by somebody who's transitioning. That's a different take on this. Yeah. That is. The first two days in jail, I've seen a girl get raped next to me. People be thinking that just because you're inside of a female prison that it doesn't happen, it happens. Rape by who? Another... Another girl. Yeah. With the whole ace bandage thing? No, sticking stuff up them, like plungers and you know, things that just don't belong up there. And thing is, I mind my business. I was, I'm new to the jail. I don't know what she did. You understand? I don't know what she did to get that. Like, not that anybody deserves it, but I'm not going to be next because I'm jumping into this and she probably did something to you or you know, it's a lot of people, like a lot of females that's in jail that's for touching kids and they get handled. You understand? They don't respect that. So for all I know, she could be a child toucher. Right. So who are you? You're not gonna protect this. Yeah, I'm not protecting you, bitch. Fuck you, yeah. I'm like that in the screen though. Do I see something's going on? You know, you see somebody jumping on somebody? I don't know what the fuck that person did. Like even when it comes to driving, when I first used to sit here and I used to drive and people used to try to get in front of me and stuff like that, I'm aggressive driving. So I used to be like, fuck out of here, I'm not letting them through. You know, bullgarden, but now I feel like what about their Russian to go to somebody in the hospital? What about their Russian to go to their kid? What about their Russian to because somebody's getting jumped that they need to go save? So now I get to fuck out the way. You understand it is what it is, but before my mentality used to be like, fuck that. But now it was like, they're probably Russian to actually go somewhere they need to go. That's a New York thing though, because I feel like we grow up here where we're constantly being hustled like someone on the street is coming up to you every second like, hey, you got a little money for the environment or hey, you got this, hey, you got this, hey, you got this. So when someone cuts us off, we're like, oh, you thought you could take advantage of it? You didn't have to do that to a man. You thought, yeah, exactly. But I noticed that like friends of mine who aren't from New York or aren't from the city, like, you know, like nice suburban parts of California, they don't have that same ex. They're just like, ah, I'll let them go. Who gives a fuck? Give me, I hate people that get rolling. They're like, why are you tripping for? Like, let them go, who gives a shit? Yeah, yeah. Like, who gives a fuck? Yeah, it's smart, man. Well, Starr, give me your Instagrams and Twitters and all of that good stuff. 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Thank y'all so much for the support. All right, back to the show. This really reminds me of when Tax Throne came on the podcast back in the day. It does. And you have a lot of- I wanna listen to him, but you know, I don't even listen to my own podcast. Like I'm nervous to hear my voice because I'm scared. So I don't listen to my podcast and I have been told not to listen to none because I don't wanna, they don't want me to like follow it. Like you understand they want me to like Tax want me to have my own guideline. So he doesn't want me to listen to anything because he feels like I don't want you to feel like you have to do it this way or you have to do it that way, just be you. So I'll just be like, you know, okay, I'm not gonna listen to none, but I have never listened to no podcast. That's interesting advice. Nah, that's the best advice. Yeah, that's what he told me. He told me, don't listen to shit. I just want you, even Dustin said that. He said, don't listen to shit because I want you to be you. So I don't want you to go on there saying, oh yeah, damn, I maybe should be like this. I should talk like this, I should be like that. So they like, no, just go on and just be star. And it's like, oh, what about, they don't like to star. I never knew how to do radio. So when I first started doing radio, I was just a motherfucking, fresh off the dirt road amongst on the second line and going in there drunk high and just talking. And I still don't know how to do that shit. You know what I'm saying? 22 years later. So that's just, yes, that's the best advice he could give you. Just go in and do you. It stops you from trying to get them to like you. You just said something interesting. You're like, well, what if they don't like star? There are people out there that will like star. And there will be people that don't like star. And there's people that don't, but if you are unapologetically yourself, you can get those people that do like you gravitate to you and you don't ever have to fake being you. You have unlimited content for the rest of your life. You could only fake be someone. For so long. For so long. Only fake thugs can pretend. It's only so long fake thugs can pretend. And they get exposed. Like I tell my manager, I'm just, I just, in a point in my life where I'm just like, at space and at peace. So it's like now when I'm opening myself up, I'm opening myself up for you to judge me. I'm telling you stuff about me that you never know. So it's like, I'm giving people a reason to know me now, like, you know, and it's like, it's scary because you're playing. Like, you know, you're judging me. Like I'm all extrovertable. I was back to what you said, that she's vulnerable. This is being vulnerable. Get ready to be vulnerable. I'm being judged right now. And it's like, I'm not used to it because I'd rather be judged for people who like, oh, whatever, she don't know me. But for me to now put out my life story and to tell certain things about me. And it's being judged just like, bitch, you think I'm playing? Like, I'll fuck you up. Like, you feel me? Like, I don't be wanting bad judgment or anybody to say anything about me because I feel like it's gonna hurt my feelings. And I'm gonna go back to how I was. And I don't wanna be back like that. And you shouldn't. But here's the thing, you went through all of those experiences for a reason to have a story to tell. And now, you know, even going to therapy every week, that's gonna help you to be able to not just tell that story, but understand that story a little bit more. So you got content for forever. That psych is very scary. Why? Just because it makes you feel. No, we never really actually got a chance to speak because I kept avoiding different meetings and stuff like that. So tomorrow's when it's first time that I'm gonna actually get to speak. Do it. I don't know like, I don't know how to bring it up. I don't know what to, you know, I don't know what to do. You just sat here for two hours. You just sat here for two hours. You just talk, yo. And went, I mean, I know, listen. But you're talking to me is different. This is a sight. Listen, I understand it must be nice to sit across from me and look at me for two hours. I'm aware of this. Listen, I get it. I completely get it, okay? You do? I do. I've seen myself before. It's pretty fucking amazing. I don't wanna see you in the white guy. If you end up in Andrew, I'm gonna be like, yo, what the fuck? Listen, listen. Listen, listen. That's my little sis. I'm not even into light skin guys. So now for me to go to white, it's like, come on. First of all, let me correct you on that. Yo, by the way, I just block, block you. No, no. I was about to say, I'm dark skin white. You can't even get the tuna at this point. I don't even care about that. Overkill, overkill. I can't even get the tuna? Nope. That's foul, dude. I thought we built something. Now what are we talking about here now? I don't know. Tuna, tuna or like? No, the other tuna. Oh, all right, okay. It better not be tuna. No, the other tuna. Let me tell you something. You can't make tuna salad without some mayonnaise. I'm a riot. How you been like, I'm a riot, are you a muster? Humble as a muster, open me a bit. Are you a muster? We are cooking ladies and gentlemen. We are cooking. But no, truthfully though, always remember, and whatever you do, three people gonna like it, three people not gonna like it, and four people just gonna be transitioning. And I'm gonna be mad at you three people for not liking it. You can't focus on that. Guys, why the fuck you don't like real shit? What kind of person are you if you don't respect the realness? It's like just like you said. They might be fake. The majority of people. They might be fake. Find yourself if you're fake. Yeah, but that's not your job to help them. How can you not respect them? That's what they're doing. They're telling this. When they hate on you, they're telling their story. You know what I mean? Like that's exactly what they say to you like, yo, she's only popping because of Cardi. That's them saying like, I can't accept that she did something on her own. I'm gonna make up an excuse as to why she's successful. So I don't feel bad about myself. I like him. I like him. You said you mustered. No. Chill out, bro. Chill out, Humble. Chill out, yo. Chill out. Yo, that's mine, bro. Nah, he got it. Humble got a book called Unlearn that is really, really dope. And it's so easy to read. I think you would really, really like it. We'll get you the book. We'll get you the book. Fack about star brim. I read a book a day. Word. What's the last book you read? The boy called it. Ooh. You ever read it? Isn't that a movie or something? Nah, that was just shit. Yes. That's the last book I read. So you like fiction? I like everything. I like suspense. I like mystery. I like scientific books. Like I like basically anything that'll probably catch my attention. But even in the box. You ever read the autobiography of Malcolm X? I have never read it. That's the one you gotta read. Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, because that's the, to me, that's the greatest story of growth and evolution ever. Like I read like, like I be having, I have a whole bunch of like regular books, but then you know I got the app on my phone where you know I buy books and stuff like that. But a lot of people don't know that I, and I've been like that since I was young. I read almost a book of that. I can tell by the way you articulate. Yeah, I do. That's what I'm saying. When you say you don't have enter, like I'm like, who told you that? I don't feel like I have it as, maybe, okay, so let me take that back. I don't think I, not that I don't have enter, like I think that I don't have growth like him. Like, you know, like personal growth. He's older than you. Give yourself time. In therapy. Come on. Star is coming. I'm really upset that you keep saying therapy. I go every week. That's you. That's you. That's you. This is me. This is you. Like, stop trying to put what you do on me. I think it's gonna be good for you though. It's gonna really help with your growth. I really do. I don't think my manager agrees with that. Alex, you know like therapy for her? She's lying. She's lying. She told me not to go. Catch me three years ago. Tax. He did. Ten years ago. No, for real. If you don't, if you don't give me good advice to the people that you care about, are you even a good friend? Of course not. That's what I'm saying is he's trying to do right here. He's not trying to change you. He's not trying to do anything. He would never recommend something that he would think would hurt you. He has you here because he believes in you. Right? He asks you to come. So if he's giving you more advice, is somebody that actually has your best interest at heart, he's not making no money off you? I don't think he would ever. What does he get out of this? I don't think he would ever tell me anything that's not gonna, you know, benefit me. Exactly. But sometimes what you might think benefits me might not benefit you. But if you don't try, you don't know, right? Of course. So that's why I'm going tomorrow. I have no choice. Hey. Judge told me I gotta go. Hey. I have no choice. He's either go back to jail for not going to therapy or be outside. I'm gonna go to therapy. Like I'm not going to jail for that. That's not tough. You know, like, but sometimes, like, I don't honestly don't ever feel him or anybody that's close to me will ever tell me anything that's not right. But sometimes you might feel it's right and it might not be right for you. That might not be right for you. Now you're right. I told him. Don't they say like therapy's a mirror. It's not someone telling you what to do. They're just trying to help you figure out who you are. That's it. You know what I think is to, I just really feel like, so I'm gonna get back into like, I'm gonna go backwards. You know, I'm gonna sit here and relive everything. And I don't want it to make me angry again. Cause I was angry. You know what? There's actual science behind that. You understand? I feel like it's gonna take me back to the point where I'm gonna be mad at my mom and I'm gonna be upset at this because I'm reliving it. You will. But here's the thing. I don't want to. There's some real science behind it. Not now. So here's the thing. Let's do this in the future. I can't deal with this right now. But the thing is that bullshit's hovering over you. So now there's only two choices. You wait for that bullshit to catch up to you or you turn around and face the bullshit. And there's science behind it that people who voluntarily revisit trauma, heal quicker. Yeah. I'd rather heal later. I'm all right with it. It's gone in some blood. I can't hate on that. But it's gonna catch you either way. I just did three months at Halfway House which I wasn't really free. Freedom now has been two months. I personally don't feel I'm ready to go back to being that angry person. You don't even hold too much? And relive it. Like free, free, yeah. Oh, shit. Why does it seem like it's long? Because I was in Halfway House. Okay, okay, okay. So I was sneaking outside and stuff like that. And I was on the gram. But I wasn't really free. I still had to go to a place where I'm in a cell. You understand? I'm going sleeping on jail beds. I only get six hours outside. So it seemed like I'm living my life because I put them six hours. I'm like this, camera out, I'm out here. But really I was still basically locked up for three months. I've only been really free for two months. So it was like, I don't think personally I'm ready right now. I feel like let me be free a little more. You'll get there. You'll get there. Let me be free. I think you like the autobiography of Malcolm X. This story, it lines up with George. You said you learned a lot going to jail. I'm definitely gonna read it to him. That's where he's from Harlem. Harlem, yeah. And then he was, his nickname was Satan in jail. Yes. He didn't believe in God. I didn't believe in God until I went to jail. Really? I had a jail mom named Yaya. And she basically like, her story is crazy too because she got emancipated adult, young at, I think like 14 because she refused to marry her cousin. She's from Saudi Arabia. So like, and she went to jail the first time she did 10 years and then the second time she did 15. She's the person that got me out there to like start having faith because besides like, like my mom and my dad, besides them, she was the only person that used to just sit there and look at me every day and be like, yo, you know you're beautiful. You know you're smart. You know you're this. You know, like just basically try like encourage me and just always give me kind words. And she used to always say like, sometimes people might feel because you're so angry to approach you like, yo, you need to fucking stop. But sometimes with a person like me, you just need to love me. Yeah. That's it. That's what all my whole barrier just melt down. You understand? But if you come to me with, I'm coming at you like that. While other people that might work, just doesn't work for me. Like, you know, I'm the type of person with sometimes and she said that with her kid, she had to learn that she had to learn that she can't keep coming at him like, yo, what the fuck is you doing? You do. She just had to love him. What's your sign? I'm a Pisces. Okay. Tuna. Why are you gonna do that when I'm here? I'm not a fucking tuna Pisces. Isn't Pisces the fish? So what? Well, that's why you love tuna. But why can't you be red snapper? That's right. Well, you didn't bring up red snapper. Well, I'm telling you I'm red snapper. Well, if they put that in a can, then you would be. You need to talk to the sunkissed people. Listen, I can't wait, no point in saying that I can't wait to see, continue to see your star rise. Thank you. And I think that you can do whatever it is you put your mind to. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me. No, any time. Thank you for being here, star. Kill it. Go out there and kill it, Elle. I'm trying. I'm trying. Just hope I don't kill nobody. Listen. I'm gonna tell you something. I don't kill anyone. When we get off the air, I'm gonna tell, you know what? I'm not even gonna say that. I'll wait and tell you once we get off the air. Humble, you want to say anything? I was just gonna say one more thing about that whole social media, people get, like a lot of people get impacted by that. I think you solved the issue just through your life. Like you said you're in jail, you ain't having no phone so it didn't bother you. Like that's all people have to do is adjust their environment. Like I don't have social media on the phone that I carry around. I got like another old phone with all my Instagram, everything on it. Check it once a choice of day, right? And then that's way less opportunities to just read some shit the fuck up my day. I just feel like a lot of people don't realize how hurtful some of their words are. Like people are committing suicide. This is the hardest. Like you understand, like I have feelings. I'm not a robot. It doesn't matter how tough I am. I'm not a robot. I have feelings. So it's like, I don't think people realize like you really are coming out your day from doing whatever you're doing to discourage my day. Yeah. What's wrong with you? Like really, what's wrong with you? Like for real, because I don't do that. There's a million things I see on social network that I'd be like, I feel like being like, what the fuck take that off of this system? I don't. I don't care. Like or whatever, I just unfollow, block, don't want to see it no more, whatever. You understand? So it's like, really? Like so it took the time for me to go to jail and realize it, but it's like, it's like saying it to a person, they're not gonna understand it. Cause if you would have said this to me, I want it. So I'm just being real about it. I don't want to understand it. I'm not gonna sit here and be like, oh yeah, I'm not taking it off my phone. No, I'm not. Question, when women get out of jail, do they be horny? Yeah. Cause they always talk about that fresh jail dick. Is that fresh jail? Yeah, like me. Okay, so I used to tell people like, listen, this pussy right here, this is some auction pussy. Like I've been in jail for a year. This is basically virgin pussy right now. Like you feel me like, I basically have virgin pussy. I haven't been fingering myself. I didn't have no dildo in there. So this pussy is like a virgin. Like what's up? Like this shit right here is a treat. You know, but you definitely, definitely be horny. Especially if you wasn't doing anything in there because my jail mom used to always tell me, play the guitar. Which basically she's saying, play your strings. Like, you know, like play with your pussy, like you'll be less angry. And it's like, I can't. First of all, I'm hearing all y'all hoes all day. I'm not attracted to girls. Do you feel me? I don't want to play the guitar. I'm not into guitars. Yeah, scrumming my fame with my fingers. I don't want to play the guitar. You did 15 years. You know how to play a guitar. I only did like three months so far. I don't want to play my guitar. Like that's the first single album. You're right. So did you lose your virginity since you've been home? Of course I lost my virginity since I've been home. Yeah. First day. First day? Before you ate? The next day. When they gave me my pass year. When I was supposed to be at church. Oh. Well, somebody didn't really love God like they said they did in jail. I fell God in jail. I fell dick on the outside. Come on now. First of all, if you was locked up for all this time and your first time outside is a church pass for three hours, what you going to do? I wouldn't go get some dick. I'm going to get some pussy. Exactly. But not for the whole three hours. Why not? First of all, it takes time to get there. Who's fucking for three hours? No, it takes time to get there. Like first of all, it took three hours is three hours. It doesn't, it includes travel. So it's for you to get there. So how far were you traveling for death? I was traveling from the Bronx all the way to Queens for some dick and then back. Was it worth it? Why would you come to the Bronx? Cheap bastard. Where the fuck are we going to find anything in the Bronx? You feel nice hotels? I don't know. No nice hotels in the Bronx. I'm from Brooklyn. You got a point. But I know nice hotels in the Bronx. OK, so I'm sorry. Even though I'm fresh home, I ain't sitting on anything now. Like you got a saddle and shit in jail. Like I ain't about to get butt naked and whip this fresh pussy out on you or no fucking motels in the Bronx. So you went to Queens, his house or hotel? Hotel and got nasty. And got nasty. For how long? I think it probably was like 10 minutes, 10, 15 minutes. Can you imagine if you only got three hours and then the person wants to talk? How are you? How have you been? You know somebody? I walked into the hotel room and was just like this. Take it off. Like take everything off while I'm walking in it. And he's looking at me like, like, what? You're not going to talk to me. No, but then listen. But then he's like, OK, fuck it. I guess that's what we doing. Yes, you got three hours, nigga. First of all, we only got like 30 minutes left. We still got it. It might be traffic. Let's get to going. Yeah. I don't want to talk. Yeah. Let's go. I talk to you all the time. So you guys went at it 10 minutes. And then after it's done, what is it? Are you like feeling relieved? Are you like? Did you nut? Yes, I nutted a few times. I was mad because I didn't get around too, but I was fine. Wait, you nutted a few times and you still wanted around too. You only had three hours. I don't know how old this guy was. But he's anything like my age. Yeah. All right? Ain't no round, too. Ain't no round, too. It's going to take about seven, eight hours to get to round two. Next Sunday, you get round two. You know what I mean? Was there foreplay? Was there foreplay? What a girl question to ask. Was there foreplay? No, it probably was a little sucking of the nipples because that's like my spot. You really love that. Yeah, she was in jail. There wasn't no foreplay. Fucks foreplay. I'm wet in the car. I'm wet in the car. You were ready to go. I was wet in the car thinking about what's going to go down. Going forward. You feel me? Like, I was wet in jail thinking about what was about to go down. Like, no, I didn't need fore, for what? For what? Foreplay for what? For what? OK, so then you go back to church. I'm so bored. Never went to church. Or you go back to the pick out. Yeah, I go back to the halfway house. And I actually got in trouble because they're like, oh, well, you took that picture and it looked like church. And I'm like, yes, the fuck it did. Let me show you how to picture it. It kind of did look like a church hallway. Let me see. It was a hotel hallway, but it looks like a church hallway. If the walls were yellow, it was church. Yellow or white, it was church. OK, let me show you how to picture it. My church is called the Radisson. Nobody could have told me this was church. Listen, this was church. I was thinking God. And by the way, they always say you can't find God in no man-made temple. So a church can be anywhere. Exactly, right? I should have said that to them. OK, you ready? Yes, let me see. What do we think? Does it look like church? No, because it'll carpet. That is hotel carpet all day. Let me see. If it wasn't the hotel carpet, if the carpet was like one plain color, that could have been church. I could be in the hallway of the church. No, the carpet would have to be one solid color. I'm looking for captions. Sunday session. No, you didn't. It was a Sunday session. Exactly, right here. It was a Sunday session. It was a Sunday session. Can I put the hands? Doesn't it mean anything? Doesn't this mean anything? Come on, that don't look like it. It don't? No, I wouldn't have you to show me that picture before the story when I thought that was a church. But it's the carpet. It would be a solid color. But it look like a light. All of that is churchy. All of that is churchy. Yeah. Look at the caption. Come on. No. You know what you're doing. I'm mad at you. I'm mad at it. All right. If you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. If you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right to. Starbrem, thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. I appreciate you. Humble to pull it. Sorry we couldn't talk to you long. It's OK. I'm having so much fun just watching this. I love when Humble comes. I didn't even know I was supposed to be on the podcast. I thought I was coming to kick it. No, all right. It's the Brewing Day, this podcast. Thank you for listening. And go download that. What is it? Let it. Don't play with me. Don't, don't. Keep it built. Yeah. Keep it built. Wild on the fresh. I have to remember that shit. Keep it built. Keep it built podcast. Yes, keep it built. Everywhere you get podcasts now. Yes, every episode drops on Wednesday. So go download that. Word, it's the Brewing Day. Thanks for listening. Peace.