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This is what you should do on the each and every video that we have in the description section There's a section that says To join a membership click that link and it takes you through all the different steps Say man, I'm here with a guy today. You don't need introduction man. First of all, we up in Los Angeles, man It's going down man. We've been invited in man. Thanks to Kenyatta. We out here man kicking it man And I'm having a great time man. My boy glasses Malone is in the building man I've been waiting on this one right here. This is all that. What's the deal man? I've been waiting on this man Thank you, man. I'm apologizing In the rain because y'all Yeah, yeah, no we had a storm so I apologize Official Los Angeles person is important to apologize for the weather The weather ain't weathering. I don't know You gave me this bottle man What's up? I mean, you don't everybody don't do this. I interview we got three thousand some interviews I ain't got no one of these. Yeah now man. Um when it's official it's supposed to be on vinyl That's crazy. I mean castle these nuts. It's my new album. That's hard man When people look at vinyl nowadays they think about vintage but our daughter she I remember she started getting this I don't think when she was 16. She bought her record player and she went and got all of her older You know favorite, you know albums and stuff like that and she has started a collection that way Yeah, I advise all I advise all people who enjoy music to get a vinyl player. It plays better Um, it sounds better. It feels better. It feels something. Um unique about it and the experience changes it completely You know, I mean, it's not like Listening to music on your phone is a lot different than listening to it out of a vinyl player It's like a piece about it that I really enjoy my mom. It connects me to my mom My mom is a huge vinyl. She was a big music person a ton of vinyls and I just love how it made me feel it made me feel official as an independent artist at that point Wow, I want to get into it man. Are you from watts? Yeah, man. That's cold man. What 7th street That's what I man. That's crazy man. Like where's watts man You remember when I got that haircut a bit by five years ago You took me to get a haircut. You dropped me off there At the at a barbershop. Okay, and we was in watts. You don't know that is what's a bad area It's like the blackest part of LA for the most part, but really technically yes I grew up in counting the watts my mom I grew up in the wrestling farms. My mom's on the house. My dad they broke up when I was young So I'm on the house Three or four. I see you don't remember So I've been going back and forth between counting the watts my whole life My dad bought his house on 117th street And I mean off whimmington and imperial and my mom kept the house in the wrestling farm So I kind of had that experience my whole life So you didn't feel like so growing up because you had a split household How did that make you feel? I know it seemed like that was very active in your life So you were going back and forth, but did you feel the effects of them not being the same household? I think somewhere, you know what I mean? I can't really Say completely yes that I would be at the register because my dad is like You know, I I spent as much time with him as I don't remember him not being around You know what I mean? So, um, it's like having four parents, you know, I step mom step dad No, they did a good job of keeping, you know, responsible adults around so we could kind of see how it was supposed to go You want you to get double gifts and stuff like that? No Your mother would she ended up going to prison. Yeah three four times Wow So my mom went to prison when I was like 12 or 13 for um, like a federal charge They was changing money orders from like $40 to $4,000. Wow So she went to the feds when I was probably 13 14 writer or 12 somewhere between 12 and 14 and then she went to jail again for drugs when I was around 16 and Couple times in between and then the last time she died in prison. She had got 20 years Wow, so when she went to prison you were you seeing what your dad ate at that time? Yeah. Yeah, okay. So that's how whites became really More of a centerpiece of everything I was doing once my mom went to prison kind of changed everything Wow, you like I said you Research you was fun. You know what I mean? I started looking at all the music everything you've been in the game I I seen what you say, but I just got serious after I think it was the two-pot thing when you're two problems Yeah, yeah, but he was already doing good music and with labels and everything man. Um I've been a pro this like my 16th season, you know, I mean in in as a professional Um, but I didn't really know like I had some really great people around me. Shout out to um Big face games older brother. Yeah, you know instrumental in my start my older brother pool But really Guido the nose who was my engineering producer for my first project white lightning He was it was his moment You know, I mean I was just the mc that was blessed to be around Guido, you know a dj gle He had already mixed uh diddy, you know, like a boy song. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He had been working with rhythm d So he had paid his dues and I was just a benefactor And an articulate enough mc to wrap over the stuff and listen to his guidance for my first city white lightning You know, I mean in games older brother who had just coached the game obviously into a gold album in his first week You know I'm saying he was actually somebody on the other side making sure I understood what I needed to do as an artist So I really was the benefactor of really two other people who had paid their dues And I was just wise enough to listen to them niggas when they were telling me to do so How did you meet games older brother? So Let's start so I know because it's crazy, right so I already knew g ride because g ride from from brazil and women to from cedar black was a hustler You know me from black wall street But little face a couple other people I knew at that time But long story short my brother-in-law's best friend is a guy named tone from village town pyro called him black tongue He passed away. Um He heard I was rapping at a family function and he wanted me to meet one of his young homeboys His young homeboys ended up being faux cent or faux bent from west side pyro Okay, and they're running with game and face at this time faux cent died And I went to his house in west side pyro, you know in a community And I was rapping in his back house and he was kicking all these dope pyro wraps So I'm kicking all the dope Crip wraps, but I guess he was more trippin that I was doing it when we was over there And I'm like it wasn't going to change because we was here And um, he was like, man, I want you to meet somebody that's important to me And his reverence for big face was like out of this world faux cent rest in peace So he introduced me to face and I played a couple records from face and face like my get down in the streets And like my music and started to guide me from there Wow When you say game man, I remember when game was going crazy up here, man Like it was different, bro. It was it was when I first heard this dude I was like man, this dude he was rapping bar after bar after bar. Yeah, I didn't really think that I mean he was really fitting in but it was just he was too west coast to even fit in Yeah, did you feel that? Um, hell no, I was happy. I know you I get it I wanted it to work with him in g-unit because I understood the look that would change You know that would present him a completely different look with g-unit right, it's like, um 50 Cent as a songwriter, you know, I mean g-unit as a brand was like The last thing that was important to face like it. I mean, excuse me. That was important the game It really took games career to where he needed to be for him to break through the underground um Full cent man, like I can't speak about full enough people don't talk about full cent a lot anymore But full cent rest in peace was like one of the he was detrimental to everything Yeah, because he was like the him and gang was like they were like the closest out of everybody and um He passed away right before the documentary came out like in 2004 But he was the reason I was over there with face like we our friendship became really tough and we was thinking Steve for a while When I seen you I was like man, he's a dude been with everybody I seen with dr. Dre like I'm like that's epic like this dude man Like and you said he told you to be get serious about the music. I started rapping seriously. Yeah, I started rapping seriously because um My older brother poo, you know who to this day still manages he manages k-boy. Um When I was just starting to kind of get into rap, you know, I mean and kind of stopped selling sherm and so on and so forth He his his old lady and dre's sister shemiko were best friends. Wow. So that's how that happened. It was just family You know random connections um He's like, yo, do you want to meet dr. Dre? I'm like, yeah, you know, that'll be cool I wasn't even thinking of a record deal or nothing like that It was just like meeting dr. Dre like he's from around the way. It's a legend. Yeah, right? Just do that. But he just yeah, he just from community at that time. Yeah, they up here. Yeah like oh, they around there Okay So we go to his mother's house, which is his old house. I think he gave it to his mom's this mansion in calabasas and They're cooking for new year's eve, you know So they making black eyed peas all the soulful and his mom is a really great girl. He ain't on that food Right. So I go over there. We eat and having a good time and dre walks in and We meet and you know, really he was a really interesting person You know, I mean he was cool as hell and I think he looked at me like this little street dude But you know, I generally want to believe he was like, okay, this dude is a little special Like he talked a little well, you know, so forth and so on So upon a second meeting at a beach party that he recommended we meet him at what year was this over? This is 2004 2004 all the same time. He's still he was dr. Dre. Yeah, he was already there He had already did the pop stuff and everything and ironically it's crazy because like I remember at this actual new year's eve party He's on the piano and he's kind of just messing with it. Like, yeah, I'm just learning how to play the piano And I'm like, wait a minute. This nigga didn't already did 50 cent album. This is the biggest album in the world You mean he didn't already did m&m games. Uh, excuse me. Excuse me not game. Snoop. No exhibit. Yeah You know, I mean easy Michelin Record crew he didn't did all this stuff and just learning the piano Which is why I'm so like pro hip hop like it's that making something out of nothing Oh, this is where we from So, um, I'm sitting down Anyway, we go to the second time we hanging out with him at a beach party at this Malibu beach house that he has, um And I'm playing music for him. You know, I mean he's I think he tried to intimidate me No ring was like, you know, I could take it with me or I could play it for the whole party And my older brother was like, well, you can take I said now you can play it for everybody like it, you know, let's just go Yeah, so he started playing songs and he found one he loved and he just kept playing it over and over again And I'll never forget how it felt to impress somebody like him and he's like man, whatever you're doing This is what you should be doing right here. That's right here And I I believed when he said that it hit it hit different or did it or did it just seem like a just a No, it did hit different, you know what I mean Because people haven't told you things before. Well, I don't think I was ever star struck around right That's what I'm saying. So I don't think that even happened till more recently As I started to get more into what hip hop the art was and then now I start realizing how challenging it is what he does At first it was like, oh, this nigga got the jams This nigga from around the way. He got some jams. This nigga got all the jams Solid nigga, you know, cool. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah at that time I don't think I looked at it like, okay He know what he I at least he knows what he's talking about So if he's saying, yo, this is what you should be doing for a living It's what you should be doing But over the years as I've been studying hip hop and all of this stuff Which is why you know before we were talking about how people respect what they respect you because you know the game You've been studying the history now I was different talking to him like I just was you know talking to him asking him some questions And he was trying to get to the bottom of it But I'm so at the point now kind of get what you did is like nigga Like I just need to be in front of you to talk to you about this Because it's kind of the exchange over email. You're not gonna feel what I'm saying But it took it took a while like and that's why I said I didn't really get serious till probably 2019 I just like I said, man I know it's a lot of people wish that they had that story to be able to say that drae spoke on their craft like that That's heavy, bro You know from the chronic to all the stuff this guy done or even back to the world class record Whatever he was always doping every element of who he was when he come to the music Well, it's a it's also a burden Because it's like You have to prove now why he said this about you. Yeah, it becomes a responsibility So yeah, I hear people say that they be like, oh man drae gave you props or jz thought He was doping trying to sign you now. It's a burden. Wait a minute. You say jz try to sign like my first deal Yeah, but it pushes you though. It pushes you you say it's a burden But to me it makes you step up your game and continually step up your game Yeah, but that's where it becomes like so now you have to win right you have to show everybody else these You know why did birdman sign me why they didn't sign me why is little wane Talking about me why is alonzo talking about me? Why is dr. Dre saying I should be doing this? Why is jz trying to sign? I want to go to that jz thing. I really want to know the details Now you have to prove it to the general public. Yeah Now this is where I kind of been in that space of trying to figure out of how to Okay, what do they see and how do I convey it over and over again in each song? Did you see that in you because sometimes yeah, I was about to say I was gonna be done man Like I wasn't even looking at it to me. It was a robbery I still isn't you know, still is my big brother and my manager. He's another room He'll tell you I was trying to buy a job as a longshoreman when I got my record deal I had no plans to rap past 2010 or 11 Okay, how did jz reach out to you? You're on the west coast. Sure, you know, I know What year was this? This is 2005 six About five six you you had it was something special going on with you So white lightning the way we worked it the cd, you know, I mean we made sure everybody had the album And it kind of just resonated real well with people who heard it That specific story is more a reflection of chili and lupae fiasco Okay, chill who just got out of prison, you know Fighting all you know during time for hustling and whatnot and lupae fiasco everybody know who lupae is Um, they got my cd And they were bumping it and they thought it was great, right? It was like man, this cd is really really good And lupae fiasco and chill from 1st and 15th passed my cd to jz Oh, that's what happened and so as jz started checking the buzz he was like, oh people know this dude And so he flew me out to new york and at that time he was the president or the vice president of deaf jail He sat down talked to us took us to eat took us to the office talked to us on the curve outside And that was another thing that was really dope that I remember Why why didn't you sign your money using money? Yeah, but but the fact that you're having that conversation with jz and Just basically him taking interest in you to spend that time to have that story is another thing that's just You know, you don't think these things happen. It don't happen every day Yeah, so it's valuable to me just for far as an artist and I could see why you would be like, man I got to make this happen. You know what I mean, man We still here, you know 16 seasons in and I'm like, yo, I need to make sure I show everybody what Jayz saw, you know, that's real Dr. Dre saw and that becomes the goal you're proving your The legends the predecessors correct. You see I'm from the south So you see bird man them coming to the picture, you know what I mean? They start to hang out you guys start to You know, you know hang do songs together. You see you you see come to minutes doing stuff with bird man You see Wayne them hanging up here. You see the you know the different, you know the gangling goal Whatever you start to see them speak on that like give me your understanding of how you guys all came together Well, culture is some shit. I mean, but as far as how we came it was through mac 10 Damn show was mac 10 mac 10. I remember them. Yeah, mac 10 is one of them guys who's ears to the streets Had a great relationship with cash money the whole time So when we decided we were going to do business, you know, I mean that was somebody he wanted to partner with And do business so he took my music to bird man and Wayne and slim But you and mac 10, how do you guys link up? So the thing about being in that late man is you know, you kind of from the outside looking in because I'm on the outside Looking in yeah from the outside looking in is like crypts and blood But in real life is players and suckers. Yeah Yeah, it ain't really crypts and blood like it's players and suckers Explain so players fuck with each other It don't matter if a nigger rag is burgundy red black, you know, whatever brown It don't matter players fuck with each other and that's kind of the nuance that people don't Talk about when it comes to street life in LA. Yeah, thanks and Bandana a street sign separates you now players and suckers been fucking with each other So I've been a player mac been a player So my music reached him and it wasn't no thing once he like he validated that I was a player He started conversating and we started building a relationship from there that goes to this day Wow Mac 10 man He had hell of a run too. People don't during that time when he was I remember he was dating the girl from tlc It was going down like you you didn't turn we didn't have instagram like now We didn't have the social media. It was ucd folks on tv. You might see him on tv or I mean when you think about it man being a guy that come from that era And then to see everything now where people are trying to deal with it on the independent level I just had a little key key on the show and it was like Yeah, that's my boy right there man. So So being able to understand how to Move like you're supposed to in this in this environment being able to understand meaning the music, you know I mean from where it used to be where a big label would pick you up and they still do sometime but How do you how do you look at it now versus the way it was then? It's a really good question. Um, it's definitely more of a responsibility um Because of the way people consume content, correct, so you know People want content a lot more often like I have to post on like this was probably the first day In about 120 days that I didn't post like I've been posting Two to three times at least one time every day since I started the campaign for cancel these nuts back in october Um, it is a huge responsibility to make content But something that has been bothering me is that um There's a confusion in hip-hop where everybody feels like hip-hop is now a popularity contest Okay, so people are making content that doesn't fit What being a hip-hop artist is they're just doing anything And it don't necessarily translate into people deciding they're going to support your music or buy your music or even Your brand is hip-hop like you know, I mean, they're not supporting it And you know, we have to kind of straighten that part back out um So it is a huge responsibility coming from that era where if I go do one thing for the source You know that pretty much covered 200 000 people. I don't have to do shit. Yeah You know nine months You know, man, you get a fucking article in the source people talking to you about that article for six to nine months Right versus today where you know, it's hard to make content You know or ideas that last longer than a week It definitely is but I totally agree with you on um The way in which a lot of artists or a lot of people are doing they're more of a digital Our content creator more than just an artist because but it's um I think it's the way how people are When an artist come out and they just do something that's totally different from what their artist street is But they get all these views and eyes on them It's like a way where they're like, okay I'm gonna start promoting my music this way because I have all these eyes on me So although it doesn't relate to music because they have the audience watching they can sort of try to push their music Yeah, but it's it's really like a bad idea. It's a long way. That's not really wise. Um Imagine a comic, you know Is a reverend in a church? And he's like posting a sermon and but he's a comic And it's not like this is not showing that you're funny, you know, I'm saying like We're watching you deliver a sermon, but there's no jokes Like I don't care how many more views it get it doesn't help your brand of being a comic at all And it also puts labels in a weird position because if we're all just chasing popularity And then we just buying a song then they need to go That's why they're going to get popular people and allowing them just to make songs It doesn't make sense to get developed You know hip-hop artists or music artists to make music anymore It's like, no, I'll just get a popular person and give them a great song That's why I keep hearing people say that um, whereas artistries are concerned is not um What should I say? It's not talent anymore. It's all about What can you do? And some of it is propped up to be seen proper Prop up to something else. You got a lot of fake bots You got all kind of scheming ways that things are being manipulated to get people to look at certain things a certain way Some of it's organic. It's a lot going on. Well, I mean Listen, if everybody just if the goal is just to be popular Then people are doing what they're supposed to do But if you want to be a hip-hop artist or a rapper in 2024, your goal should be to actually sell Records, right? Your goal should be to be respected as in your professional field You know, I mean if you're a doctor, I don't give a fuck. How well you golf I mean it could get you patience But I'll probably be better if you figure out a way to promote your medical practice. That's real, but then look at um example Sexy red everybody been talking about how crazy Yeah, and back out there doing a whole bunch But you know, but I'm sure that she's streaming and they're looking at her music as much as all the crazy antics that she does Well, the antics is still wrapped in music. You know what I mean? And This is the thing about hip-hop and and I've been having this conversation So if you've been looking up my content, I've been having this conversation about hip-hop Hip-hop is street urban culture personified through the arts Exactly nobody understands this right now better than sexy red She is a street urban culture She's a phenom as what we think of certain girls in certain communities And she knows how to magnify that the highest level and then she makes the soundtrack to score for it So it's brilliant You know, I mean that's why she's doing so well. She is street urban culture personified through the arts Now we could be hyper critical over the art itself, but it's more than passable enough You know, I mean it is take Keith making the music Yeah, it is some really good people helping her write the songs This is not like playing they're not playing. She's not just walking in the bathroom coming up with this shit It's some brilliant people is saying it's strategic. So even if she's just more You know responsible for the culture itself. She delivers her part and it comes out for her. I mean, but again You still got to look at the art and then you'll realize she doesn't have a top 40 song yet I mean even with all of this attention and all these buzz because she still has work to do with the art with the art I mean, she got the song with drake. That's doing well, but drake is a brilliant artist Yeah, I mean, but I think sexy red is in a position to do something great You know, I mean if she takes the art serious Her culture just bleeds through everything about what she represents and the people she represents They have aligned themselves with her and you know, we fuck with her as somebody from the streets That's doing her thing. So it's about can she get the art correct and really take that next step And there's I saw a tiktok video the other day of This guy he was talking about how okay, because you had hip hop But then a lot it like evolved into like gangster rap and stuff like that And he was like gangster rap has killed so many rappers. It's caused so so many bad things to the culture Um, do you agree with that? Not at all. Um Especially it said that um with somebody I really love from New York a legend. Um So I had an epiphany right this is through my studies Hip hop is a sea right and it depends on which Soil you planted in throughout, you know America at this point we're talking about It also determines how the culture is going to come out So the lingo if you plant that same seed that that the Bronx fellas develop I mean if you plant that seed in Harlem, it's different than the Bronx, right? If you plant that seed in Brooklyn, it's different than the Bronx If you plant that seed in Queens is different than the Bronx If you plant that seed of expression in Staten Island, it's different than the Bronx So, you know, it's different if you planted in Lone Beach Count in the Watts It's different if you planted in Houston in Dallas So it's it's one of those things where it's like it's going to look a little different depending on where you at because the streets look a little different But I think that as far as it being to blame it that's responsible because it's like Hip-hop is the mirror of of the streets at that time. It's a mirror So it's like Sam somebody saying this mirror makes me look ugly It's just mirrors fault that I'm ugly Like it's like oh, you know what it's hip-hop is gangsta rap fought because people were already the music is only the culture Or is a mirror of what's going on out there? Because this exists. Mm-hmm. Dr. Dre didn't start low riding So it didn't make it excel any more than what it really was. Oh, it just put everybody else on notice Everybody else could see what was happening in LA for the first time now how brothers and Dallas might start to identify With brothers in LA and say, you know what that's where we want to organize like exactly the rest is sure Dallas This is not the beginning of Dallas in crime Colors is not the beginning of Dallas in crime No, the fuck has been getting shot in Dallas keep telling people that how they organize themselves everywhere Could be more or less. Oh, we didn't know this is how brothers over here was organizing itself We like that so we're gonna organize it our way But guess what if you plant that seed there is still gonna look a little different than it does in LA But you didn't see when music start when rap started or hip-hop started You didn't see as much back then where the feds and everybody was looking at your music and taking Information out your music to incarcerate some of these people It wasn't as much music and it wasn't as much technology When also it's black people They've been oh, you know all these charges were for the mafia You know even all those regal fed charges was for the mafia and of course black people gonna get the worst end of the stick It might have took down three different or four different organizations, but when it come to black people They'll take down four hundred thousand So I mean anything in this country used to hurt white people you could bet for sure black people gonna feel it worse Let me say this man to Park must die was a thing where Some people looked at it like what is he doing? You know, I mean including dr. Dre sure You came up with this I Felt it because it was just history being recapped sure it was really a thing where You guys probably seen it from a whole we was it was conspiracy theories all type of stuff out there It wasn't just what you you painted a picture that was pretty much simplified Kind of to Keefe these statements a little bit to be honest with you, you know, I mean like What gave you the are you a to block fan? Sure? I don't think there's a black person But did you hear the song you didn't see the what was going on in the video see she don't take the music Well, I don't I still don't know how you did this video right sure talking about you was in a white Cadillac So you was basically coming through sure and To talk must die because of some stuff that we know all what happened sure, but you did it in a way where it's artistic sure I Like the song it was banging and slamming and you wouldn't play him with it But it's still like damn this to park man. Nobody's no man is bigger than a program. That's the lesson in it like So the more I was learning about hip-hop at that time I started to get into the etymology of the word culture. I started looking up What does it mean aspects and I start getting into it to really get a good grasp on hip-hop for what? I'm what I'm doing now what I started to what I started in September and The run I'm about to go on is because how much work I did to understand what hip-hop was and one of the key words outside the street when it comes to hip-hop is culture and The West Coast Southern California's culture has been on display for 40 years at this point You know what I mean colors is in the is in the late 80s Nwa is in the late 80s. You know me boys in the hood is in the tippy top of the 90s Yeah, so you guys have been seeing the shallow surface, right of our culture for 30 to 40 years You know what we dress like, you know, you know what the street guys look like when it comes to the uniform You know the kind of cars we drive You know who we are so as I started to get into hip-hop I realized like y'all I needed to figure out other aspects of culture to develop like to bring y'all to make something to impact You know the the fans of what we do Mm-hmm and one of the words that I found was morality Okay, things that we see is right in Rome, right? That's a huge part of any society mm-hmm in Los Angeles Like like more of anybody, you know, like if you jump on somebody Somebody most likely gonna come back shooting at you. Yeah, yeah, this is a standard It's a standard around here. You know, I mean and it don't matter who you are. It could be the Pope The Catholic Church is gonna bury somebody if the Pope and a couple priests jump on one of us It's just how we believe in justice So me explaining that through that song and taking somebody who we all revere around the world and saying this person Not even bigger than a program was all a testament to the morality that LA feels or Southern California feels when it comes to this street urban culture We talk what did Dr. Dre? How was this? What was the argument? What did he say? Wasn't no argument. He was talking shit He called me up there to talk shit, you know, I mean, but um, he also didn't see it Okay, I mean he hadn't saw the idea and when he talked to other people that saw the idea It was like no that shit is fired. Okay. So even corrupt corrupt cuss me out I was gonna ask you like how was your relationship with the dog pal? Yeah, dad's is my man Everybody from the West I I revere them. You know, I don't really have no I never really had no problem. Nobody but there's a whole different conversation but um Corrupt cuss me out before he saw it the title itself made people uncomfortable, but again to me like Honestly speaking like I made the title Hella Shakespearean because if you jump somebody nobody gonna say that person must die It's gonna come out a little bit more raunchy or fucked up than that Yeah, so I made the title very, you know, cinematic like John Tucker must die or Romeo must die But still, you know, again two pockets so revered it kind of put blinders on everybody and You know earplugs. They didn't want to see the bigger picture. They didn't want to get the message But I got time you know me like time is on my side You as everybody every day I look in the comments somebody's apologizing to me because they was like I didn't give it a chance or I'm hearing different fans and I didn't give it a chance and as they saw it DJ quick, you know Yeah, here's another one that I video on stage with him cussing me out and going bad on me And then when he saw it he saw me. He's like, you know what that shit is dope. I'm tripping. Did he apologize? Yeah But honestly man, it was such a I'd be lying if I didn't say I didn't enjoy the fact how uncomfortable they are, but did you know all of that was Well, you make hip-hop when you when you get a good grasp on what hip-hop is, you know I knew it was gonna be the same thing as fuck the police. Hmm. I mean, I knew it would be, you know great Great hip-hop, you know what I mean It makes comfortable people uncomfortable and it makes the uncomfortable people comfortable like you giving them a voice So people everybody around here knew what happened. Like we all knew what happened. Yeah We did I just told you that I don't know what they are going on. So I'm a Tupac fan I'm going through a lot at that time too, and I'm like man. What is wrong with this nigga? I didn't really I'm like this dude's crazy many tripping man not get it I hadn't listened to it. I wasn't trying I'm a trippin cuz I'm a Tupac You're going to my store. You're gonna see a big Tupac post on the wall Yeah, I still got music all the time But again my job as a hip-hop artist is to bring you Southern California Street urban culture in all its glory Already even in all its pain and that's a painful moment for us You know, we do have some moments over here that we're not necessarily the most proud of on a positive level But it is fair This is the consistent theme like if this only happened to Tupac They may be I'd look at it completely different, but this happened to my friends This happened to other people that did shit to us. So it's just the morality of you know, Los Angeles Street life This is and we all know it's normal. We like well, you know, what we gonna do about it We gonna trip about it, but we knew this was coming. Did you know did you? But did it surprise you when they picked up key for D? Yeah, that was really a surprise you see what I'm saying well because at the end of the day I still need to see the discovery like I don't believe them interviews is what got him locked up Well, Vlad says that he's an unbiased jerk What do you know? He said this is the first one that that he feel like his he gave his stuff over to the you know, the authorities and he He helped with the situation to help with it I think that could move you into a space to get like a warrant to raid someone's house Mm-hmm. I don't think that could get you in the court. Okay, and then he did a book as well Yeah, but again, OJ did a book that they didn't double back. It's just what it don't Jay say though He said if I if I would if I would have did it. He was better. What should I say? I don't I don't think that that works that way I mean, I need to see because I could be wrong there's two left shoes But I'm saying I think there's so much more to what happened and as we see the case You know develop with forgot exactly where did Nevada? You know come up with enough evidence because if it's just interviews they gonna lose badly did you you have a relationship with Keith E. D Yeah, I know him. Okay, you know, that's cool. Okay, so you knew him in the neighborhood My mom lived in a neighbor for the last time she went to prison. She's a neighborhood. Okay. Okay. That's okay That's what's up. I didn't know that, you know, I mean, so I Want to move to the Birdman thing again. I'm a big Birdman thing man Y'all did haters man. What was it? Yeah, it was haters haters feature Lil Wayne Sure, like like how was Amber man? How was it doing that that that video and just going in the studio did y'all go in the studio cuz so me and Birdman was in The studio together, but Wayne played me his when I went in the studio. Okay, let's talk about it Yeah, it's like getting your ass kicked Explain like that's how good Wayne was at rapping. He was cold with it. It was like He still is I'm back there I'm in the studio with him was crazy. I didn't really realize how good he was listen to it at the studio The studio, but I didn't realize how good he was like, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm older than tune I'm older than Wayne. Correct. I'm a juvenile thing. We came up on yeah, yeah, and jizzles, you know They don't free jizzle these are the dudes I'm listening to and hot boys and little Wayne is the little brother You know, I'm I'm about four years older than to three years older than to so I'm like, okay So I'm hearing his stuff going. I heard quarter one. I'm like, oh, that's dope But I'm not really giving it its proper respect from a brilliant artist until we did that fucking song and I was like, holy shit You know what I mean? This is how much better he is than I am and I remember that feeling Distinctly, you know what I mean like like oh, yeah, this is fucked up But how was bird man like in the studio just work, you know, because they say he be talking and he just fly with the way he Do things, you know, he talked about what he got what he learned, you know, I'm saying man He's starting to come in with it man was crazy as man stun a man is such a Like it bothers me when people have negative things to say about bird because to me. He's such a good dude Wow you so so you've heard these things over the years and you be like what every time I'll be I don't know Who the fuck they talking about because they don't know awesome He's really he's a great teacher first off. He's a really great teacher. He don't mind showing you the game if you want to know it He was nothing but just brilliant to me like all of my modern work ethic like for everything that I'm about to obtain and all of the Success is because of the work ethic. I was taught by cash money from two from Wayne And for excuse me from tone from stona from slim how they work I mean that work ethic that Southern work ethic that them boys had is different. Well, I mean and tune specifically is Really really important on me stepping up as an artist into another realm to where I am now where it's like You know when you listen to cancel these nuts as an album Yeah, yeah, really arrange will because I had to lean on my strengths You know me being around little Wayne like if you're not prepared little Wayne is for sure one of the top five greatest artists I mean pop history. I mean and he's unbelievable But when you getting your ass kicked all the time in there and you see how it's done at that level, you know It's either you're gonna quit. You know me or you gonna take your shit to another level Wow, and it took me some time to get it to another level, but here we are now What about a BG how do you feel like he's doing since he come home after what about 13 years 12 years? He still sound like Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm waiting on it. You wait on it I'll take listen nobody ever told the people that I grew up listening to to stop rapping. Yeah. Yeah, and nobody told Scarface to put the microphone down nobody told Jay-Z Now is the only one who got understands nobody said put the mic down So I still want to hear Juvenile. I still want to hear BG and I really want to hear them over many fresh beats I really don't even want to hear them ask you about nobody else I was gonna ask you about that like dealing with you you see both sides like you dealt with the many fresh beats, right? You dealt with dr. Dre, you know, like you you know these sounds and stuff How do you think about many fresh like when you look at his skill level versus You know, that's another one like I'm not throwing these words around. He's another one That's really incredible. You know, I mean people don't look at his career the correct way I heard somebody tell me that they felt many fresh would have been bigger if he was able to spread his sound And I'm like, no, that's not what's making him bigger What's bigger is when you architect a sound that everybody wants and then you create one of the greatest movements Sonically that never happened in history about cash money regulars is probably as great as it get as independent late Yeah, and many fresh scored the complete soundtrack for roughly Maybe eight years It was cold with it, man All them different times and phases is crazy when you look at cash money young money and that whole movement the rich gang The development of how they did that you don't really see that young man as a teacher is underrated And that's why you get the young money cash much a lot rich gang movement because Birdman really He knows how to motivate like he would be like a great boxing coach like like Derek James or something Yeah, and where he knows how to take a fighter specifically and cater to their strengths Wow, like to me he did certain things to help me understand like he always told me exactly what I needed and When I figured out how to get it, you know, I knew he was right Supersport featuring two short. How did you put that together? Fugger with my homeboy pun. You got the old short back. You didn't you didn't I'm a short fan Yeah, you didn't just get too short you got the old to show You didn't say be like he went in on that. Oh, it's right up his alley. Yeah, it was made for him, too Oh, okay. Yeah, you know what I mean, um Again pen homestice cue with the chorus Yeah, but really just putting short in a place to where he's always been brilliant for 40 years You know I'm saying like you you put short where he goes and you can't go wrong It's just when you start gambling with short, you know It's like trying to get McDonald's to make fried chicken. It might not be good But if it's just like a burger probably gonna have something at the world one easy How did you like like like when you first heard short? What what was that like being on the West Coast? You know my mom man. My mom was playing short for me first. Wow I mean sound like it's something I wasn't supposed to listen to but she was playing it. So That's like part of living. I don't remember a world without short That's you know, yeah, because see we older. Yeah, I'm be honest with you I remember in high school and and this is crazy like when I heard short it was some totally different I was listening short in elementary You know I'm just in elementary elementary So I don't remember a world without short like as long as I can remember music I pretty much remember to short do short cold into this day to this day and still gonna get on that mic and act bad Yeah, man, we was talking about it the other day sounds like ghetto and how great of a you know MC hip-hop artist he is that people don't really get they don't hear all this stuff with substance early on in his career Well, he would talk about great things and he's like another teacher that I don't really talk about, you know Iced tea Who I could call and and get the information of different times and the culture and what was happening and how to approach ideas So too short has been Instrumental too and you could tell it takes him down like memory lane to remember some of this stuff So he's been great the song I want to go into the video aspect of it like when you guys did that video together How where was that at and and what you know, it's all over Los Angeles. Okay, a couple body shops and I'm Street Race Okay, like again like I said that lay really as much as it seems like it's Crips and Bloods And that's kind of the shallow approach. It's really players and suckers Okay, so players meet at different places and I'm a huge street racing proponent. I've been street racing my whole life That's me and my dad's you know pastime real street racing So to be able to include that in the video was dope. That's hard man. I enjoyed it I watched it over and over again when I started doing my research. I was like, what? It's real life. That's what I'm saying like I love when I research and I interview somebody and you start dealing All elements of the game you wanted those guys for me that Interviewing you was easy cuz I get to go both ways, you know, I'm saying all you you really wanted those guys to do your homework But have been in the game long enough to where I can reach back in that history, you know Yeah, so how important is it as an artist to really reach back just like what you were talking about reaching back and Hearing those conversations from the older music rappers and stuff like that and here in the culture Because a lot of these youngsters they don't reach back to the older the OGs to really you know Get guidance and stuff like that and hear about the stories. I Think that's why they're struggling. I think this is why hip-hop is struggling Think hip-hop is kind of like, you know, there's a arrogance and In a sense of entitlement just based off of youth that you're gonna be able to carry this and Maybe you look at people that were young that carried you before but you didn't know the relationship with them and you know The people that inspired their movement like right most people don't know the first death row album You know, I mean that came out of solar, you know We're solar studio sounds of Los Angeles recording studios with Dick Griffey, you know Who had the whispers who had the deal the deal is la reed and baby face that they career, right? Shout shout a mark, you know, all these really great Talies did griffy have been putting on for ten years plus, you know, I mean and they were able to Go in the studio and record their first album with the ear of dick griffy there Even the deep cover look came from dick griffy at solar You know, and you listen to the chronic or you listen to doggie style you hear the dramatics is on it You hear you don't know the musicians that played on it from the past. There was always this connection For the more successful acts with you know, the lineage of black music So I think it's everything to have it like I think without it, you know, you're gonna just you'll never be able to repeat What you do, I love it. I really do might get lucky that you ain't gonna be The low what was that song you had you you had a song where you sample between the sheets, you know I'm old school alone. Yeah a listen. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, but but you had that I'm talking about that song the way you did it. Yeah, I was like man. I thought about biggie, of course I thought about the brothers. I thought about you GK crap in my style. Yeah, I'm saying like it's a lot of stuff Yeah, I'm like it's different like Chubrock man You're quiet on the set Man, that's hard man. Like like to go back and get that song and do something with it You know, you got to bring it, right? That's what I'm thinking about like, okay When you get there was a lot of people that tried to sample that song some of my listen to a lie But you killed that you know what I'm saying. So like what's uh, what was it? What's on this on this album right here? What's what's the biggest the the big the thing that you really was trying to get everybody to see? Well, that's trying to get people to see to understand, you know like in this day's environment This is how you this is this is really like like therapy, bro Yeah, you gotta understand. That's what you people don't understand That's why I put the podcast together because we got to inject something to where we can keep this thing balanced, bro That's a great point. So When you said like that the goal was to kind of get masculinity back into a better space in our communities and all the ghettos Like masculinity is in a really vulnerable space You know I'm saying and and you know gangsterism is like the ultimate form of masculinity You know masculinity being defined as like accountability and problem-solving skills, you know in the community is hella primitive You know, yeah, and we we like to talk shit, but it is primitive You know, I mean we don't celebrate people who just do unnecessary shit But we do understand that there is a greater sense of justice going on more times or not But really just to interject some lad needs niggas pencils man. Yeah, I love it We need it, bro. We need something to do with bro Yeah, like you don't really like people not really get to me like I told a little kitty Like you see the ones who really putting projects out versus people just throwing stuff out You can tell what's really thought through and put out in a and and pretty much when you lay it out You like oh, yeah, you get serious about the way you present it Well, we can't rest on our laurels at this point hip-hop can't just no longer rest on the greatness of its past People are demanding it again. You know, I mean we can't just rest on what you know bad boy and and Wu Tang and Dr. Dre and death row and Roofless and and no limit and cash money did in the 80s 90s in the 2000s that day is over like We rolled that out like a artist who tours off one hit record and you know at first you you think it's about the whole Out but it's really this one hit record. That's it The first year is great and you doing ten thousand people and then five years now You're doing three thousand people, but you putting out music and none of the records and hip-hop is now in a space Where it's like eight hundred people in the room and you know People are demanding that we step it up, you know as as a genre as well to Deliver to the rest of the world like to be worthy of the praise again like that We rolled the last great way probably which was the two thousands. Yeah, I mean and now we're riding them, you know 12 years deep as a complete genre. You know, I mean, it's only two. It's too many specs now Yeah, I mean, it's only so many J. Coles. It's only so many drinks You know, I mean, it's only so many wise It's only a handful of great artists versus the 90s and 2000s where they were like Boatloads of them. So we rolled off the highs of hip-hop for a good 12 years and now everybody's like, okay We over what y'all got now? Wow. So it's our job to make sure we show that is something there still Well, I just like I said, man I'd be thinking about different things to happen up here like the Grammys of the night, you know, like NWA to receive, you know for easy nm mother and all of them was up there. How big was that? I mean, that was huge Me NWA, you know I'm glad white people finally figuring it out. Shout out to the white folks. That's finally figuring out that NWA is important And you know in this in this life that we all live, but people like killer Mike. That was I mean, he's a gangsta rapper. That's fine. I'm one of the few people that believe as a gangsta rapper You know, if they give me your pub, this is a hard time getting a snack somebody else Getting the rest of they never heard hip-hop We're gonna sell more records. That's real. This ain't gospel music. You know, this is gangsta rap So killer Mike makes street rapping. He's a real man He really from the corner and he achieved, you know, unheightened, you know, he's reached, you know Great heights and levels at this point with three Grammys in a row. You feel me? So if he had to snatch a nigga up or two, I'm okay with that. Yeah, and nobody is gonna judge him for it It's killer Mike Killer Mike Boy did was snatch somebody up by the collar. I think they made off good. How did you like that project? He got three Grammys You know, it was funny. It was worth it. It's a sweep. Yeah, and it was rightfully so it was put together incredibly well They wanted that Mike wanted that more than everybody else He was happy and I'm glad the Grammys really gave it to somebody who wanted who really went through what it Would take to make a great musical composition from the space. That is hip-hop Especially in the in the drama where they stick all the rap in the same place and some of these people I don't know, you know, they talking about all kind of shit They mashing different things and Mike just represents the streets. That's it. He don't represent nobody else You know me, so it was dope for hip-hop to get those three Grammys man I enjoyed it man that that whole show was like man like pause It brought back. I thought I had some vibes of the you move the vibe award when things just going crazy You remember them when Snoop looking in the crowd when Chris Like you remember them day And we need to be something else I mean, it's the only way it's gonna work. We we can't be like that. We can't be Taylor Swift It's not gonna work for it. They got Taylor Swift. They already, you know, the table already got the cold slow with the raisins on it I mean potato salad with the raisins on the table. They don't need no more unseasoned food They got enough up there. They need some, you know, you Yeah, you got to watch your blood pressure, but you need some seasoning on the table, right? And hip-hop and gangster rap has always brought that seasoning. That's true No, it's like imagine a barbecue without no greens Yeah, like a real barbecue, you know, it ain't no have a little pork up there Let's talk about the title counseled counseled what counsel these what? Counsel these what? What made you come up with that title? I'm a man and I'm gonna say what I want to say, you know, I'm not gonna have no regard for what nobody else think I mean, I'm a man. I'm gonna say what I want to say and that's it like I don't care what it costs so Yeah, I hang with like phase on and a lot of people that feel that way like they gonna say they ain't for to try to Intergriff it like it's certain people that ain't compromising and they ain't settle it You know, they ain't should pay them. They should pay them. I love those type of people. They ain't playing What you need though you the world needs people like us Who's gonna talk for you always I talk for my barbershop. That's all nobody can say this shit They get fired at their jobs. Am I a spending they fool me? I said for just come tell me Oh, really where I'm at now I feel like such a voice for so many different ghettos like not just even The ghettos of Compton or the ghetto that is Watts or the ghetto that's Los Angeles I feel like I go to barbershops in Atlanta and people like me glad you know what's bothering me And I'm like a therapist in the community and I'm like, I'm gonna talk, you know, if I could make it make sense I'm gonna express your frustrations with the world at that time. Well CEO serum so long I'm on this album right here Cedric the entertainer that that was a feature. No, no, that was a skip But that's what makes you want to know who was talking talking. Okay. So you always show them the reckoning That's hard man. I don't want people to be like thinking like you don't know who this is Yeah, yeah, you're educating at the same time, man I like I said man, the thing is the whole project and just going out to see this to get this man I'm value. This is going back in my spot. It's gonna be at the spot We're gonna put it where it can be and I make sure when I come out today I'll bring you want to play too. Okay Yeah, because I don't want you to just have caught won't just have caught we drive all this shit You have one to sit but I'm make sure I really want it I didn't want in the store like one of you know with things that happen In case you get a vinyl you want to put it on This she what did she do did she sell it I'll go and buy one. Don't worry. Okay. My daughter she's she had brown now So we don't know everything so last you tough man There you go, I'm gonna get some money So I got to ask this question. I need your definition on it When somebody say I make music compared to when you saying that I'm a musician. What's the difference between the two? I don't know. She was just trolling or whatnot, but you know, I pray for her because she's just She's special like especially Because I was reading them comments and somebody said well a musician is the person that you know plays Instruments, it's not actually like a rapper or singer or something like that It's not true and and I don't think that was her stance either though. I don't think it was she kept I don't know what she thought but again, man. It's a Kiana thing. Yeah She's somebody to me that don't really represent She it's like her sexy red almost do the same thing but hers is more like It's ridiculous Yeah, it's over the top. It's that like y'all just gotta get used to that I'm thinking That's the first time we ever had a earthquake on boss talk one-on-one God, we already know Y'all get earthquakes a lot. I mean not a lot, but I've had enough to where it's not like I'm gonna jump up And run nowhere Where you gonna run to that's what I'm saying. So just let's keep going and From Jamaica so we can we have earthquakes as well, but the first thing I'm thinking about is I'm on the 8th floor Get this work in there better look this up one year man people to the Middle Earth Man, I just want to say man. Thank you man How can people get a hold of you like if they're trying to reach out? I'm googlable. Whoo Really, I got my own place the Cripp store calm. That's why I sell all of my music you can buy a CD cassette Vinyl, you know a USB cassette. Yeah, whatever in the world now side of that just look me up online glasses low You keep it. You keep it tangible hand-to-hand It's a Lot of people don't do that. I'm fighting the idea in my mind. How are you in the record business? And you don't sell records. How are you in the music business and you don't sell music? I'll be 300 down in Texas. I don't know if you heard him. You got to look him up I'm a key key be together. Yeah, Mac 10 like a lot like he's a hand-to-hand guy like like you doing this Remember he would always he got something he gonna give you a lighter with the record the disc He gonna give you something and I think that's dope Bruh cause a lot of time them kids don't remember when it went from cassette or when it went from eight track to cassette to You know CD back from in vinyl was there during that eight track time too So all of this stuff man it bring back memories for me Yeah, but it educates the younger people. Yeah, you see what I'm saying got the young my Summer my son he don't know. Yeah, you know I'm saying he's 16, right? You don't know well What I tell him is this allows you to play music and be on the phone That's hard. That's true So you know I'm saying you don't want to add two phones all the time But if you want to play music and be on the phone, you know come buy some music for me man Hey, man, I got another question. So In the rap game because I know in the rap game you have like a lot of beats and stuff like that and Like now Nicky and Megan going through their thing. Do you have to have beef in rap music? You don't have to but there's nothing wrong with competing You know, but how far it's too far when you take it. Is there such a thing? They not gonna pinch each other. They not. These girls ain't finna fight nobody. They not gonna fight. These motherfuckers got some millions of dollars. They motherfuckers finna not do nothing. At best they might do a shoe or two at each other. They not finna fight But I think I think it's important for female hip-hop to start carrying the space. Okay, so I feel like they should battle I feel like Megan should Challenge Nicky for the throne. This is a shot at this is the shot at the heavyweight champion That's right. Take your shot, you know, sell your record. It's marketing. Wow I think a lot of the stuff even to pop, you know, resin. So he understood marketing Yeah, he knew how to market himself into the correct space to be the number one artist That's how I mean, so you nods and eat there, you know when Nas was struggling Coming off album that people was questioned critically. It was decent successfully, you know Commercially, but you know, I mean critically it was slandered and he took the JZ opportunity and launched itself back into another gear in his career Yeah, I think hip-hop It's something I hear a lot of people say and and LL has I agree with LL's point hip-hop is not a sport Like I know people say that it's not because it's not really Driven the same way, but sports are not the only thing competitive Art is competitive People working at a job if I work it, you know McDonald's and I'm flipping burgers I want to flip more burgers than you be the best. I want to have my shit exactly So I think there's a space for for Megan, you know what I mean to challenge for the throne And you've got to jump at it take a shot You know if you shoot for the stars and you land on top of the palm trees that ain't that bad Well, you got to go after that the heavyweight champion giving you a shot You take a chance and I see something going around now for some reason. I know everybody's not getting a real tattoo Because ever since Christian Rock This tattoo of blue face on her face I'm seeing all these videos popping up of all these females and I guarantee some of that is henna Paint or whatever, but everybody's doing it. I mean, it's crazy So what do you think about people or even fans? You might have a female fan pop up and have a tattoo of you on her face Listen man, I think people are way too vested I Don't think they've figured out that this lady and blue face and that whole team is entertaining you Mm-hmm. I think people are over vested in it and they haven't separated the fact that this is most likely entertaining I think everybody wants to make it real so they want to align themselves with you know I don't like how blue face trees women and Christiane is sad or Christiane is dead, you know, whatever. It's just like, you know, they're selling something You know, this is what they do for a living But it's taking it it's like they're taking it like cuz we're older So we didn't see it been taken that far to this extreme. So sure It's hard to kind of limit expression and entertainment, right? It's weird, right? Cuz it's like I Could you know, she ain't all the way right either. I don't know if you know, no I know blue face about She ain't all the way right, you know, if you listen to her talk like Like the elevator it might be a 13-story building, but the elevator go to the knife only I don't know if I would really be following with you know, somebody might Forgive me like little mama. I'm not dissing you but this ain't all the way there, right? The driveway I don't get it. I don't know the driving the driveway don't go all the way to the garage It's the stuff going crazy with that. I like Suki. Yes. I'm one of them. The driveway don't go to the garage Get out and walk to the garage. It's short. It ain't it's a couple about three so the short of a second My last question last question. Um, I see some of these young rappers on the music young I mean nine ten Coming up and The songs that they're singing and how they're acting the acting like grown man and some of the stuff that they're talking about What being that you're in this business. How do you feel about that? I don't feel that who would listen to somebody now and talk like that. Hey, you got people to do Mad at the parents, right? If you know cuz it's acting to some right You like having a nine-year-old kid actor. I mean whatever if that's how we move the real questions Who the fuck is listening to that at nine? I would not want to hear nobody talking like that at nine That's real emcee hammer dancing at nine. I was looking down my timeline. I saw this kid, you know I guess he's a musician. He's just talking about a rapper. Yeah, I saw that one too But it's all the one and he talked about the thing was like somebody snatched my chain or something like that Somebody must have got it. He's like you think and he was cussing and going on my chain right here This this this and whatever I don't know And he's a musician and I'm like no, I mean honestly I'm not bothered by it as much as you know people taking they yeah people coming with all kind of crazy food restaurants Right, I don't mean everybody should stop there and eat my question is for the niggas stopping there and eating Yeah, who the fuck is listening? I'm not playing no little nine-year-old nigga talking crazy in my car I don't know what he talked about I don't give a fuck The only nine-year-old I was playing my car was michael jackson I ain't playing no other nigga. That's nine in my car. So for sure. I'm not playing you nine talking about switches and fucking up and Women nigga you nine. Yeah, so I I'm more worried about You know, who the fuck would consume that like I wouldn't even follow you at nine And you talking crazy. I if you even if you was a kid, I'd be like I just feel bad for you But who's who's co-hersing it is somebody cool. That's the sad part Somebody is really trying to develop him. Yeah Older person to be honest and that's crazy Well, I mean, I think there is a little a level of you know People seeing rappers and wanting to be rappers and then here here goes the conversation right based on what you're listening to I don't think that's as crazy because again, we have child actors You know, it's different My thing is who the fuck wants to hear that? No, you're right. I was nine. I did not want to hear no nigga my age talk about nothing tough If I was gonna listen to some nwa, they talking tough. That's right. Nwa came out when I was 89. I'm nine Right and mama listen to what I wanted to see was kid and play dancing What I wanted to see was, you know, mc hammer dancing I would take nwa as a kid talking tough. I don't want to see nobody nine years old talking tough And so I don't believe that shit is even Worth to come nobody watching that dumb ass. That's real everybody if you look in the comments It's gonna be a bunch of motherfuckers complaining. Yeah, nobody in the comments like this shit tight No, no I want to ask you something about like you see over the years a lot of Celebrities come up here and a lot of them fall victim to gun violence or they People dying getting robbed all kind of stuff like the reputation of checking in up here It's a whole different world from the outside looking in like how do you feel about the whole situation when you look at it and being from, you know, la I think it's overstated I think if you go to any poor ghetto in in the world In the united states of america and you got, you know, a quarter million dollars worth of jewelry on It's probably a disservice to that community and not remove that from you. Yeah, you don't really want this You don't really want this. That's real. Why would you do that? Yeah, you go to the Jungle with with the tigers at with your stakes. You must really don't you take your ass over you just don't want to live That's real So they're alone if you go over in these communities and you're wearing What the houses cost on your neck and you think for two seconds you supposed to make it out this shit alive It's crazy to me You got to be the craziest motherfucker breathing there because I ain't never in my life thought I was gonna go to any ghetto With what looks like enough money to change your life And think i'ma leave there without somebody trying to change their life. Yeah, it's not even worth the fight So I I think la gets A lot of bad report when people are trying to floss around here because people watching you And flossing is a is a really bad habit that can be costly when you look at like The crime rate and the way crime is even Memphis Memphis catch it the same way you look it happens in Dallas I remember what was Was what was going on every time I all the crime. I'm like Dallas is getting more Happening than anywhere else this shit's happening in Dallas So I think there's a space where rappers are being irresponsible and and they're trying to market themselves off the The the shortcomings of other communities is like, oh, you know, I got all the money and i'ma go over here Niggas gonna respect me so much they ain't gonna yeah, okay, wait on it See if it worked out for you. Why they call your glasses malone. I can't see Contacts bothering me now But back, uh, the last part of that question. I didn't want to lose it for okay loose, um About la. Yes, it's la and then uh We're talking about people like the the bad stigma on Los Angeles, which is probably Overrated. It's definitely a bad stigma checking in checking in that's that's another thing like Like bro, you don't checking in is like fellow shipping like I'm talking to you ahead of time. I'm like, yo Me still we coming to Dallas next month. Yeah, man. Could you hook me up? I'm gonna call you. Yeah, that's checking in for sure now If you come to los angeles and you going somewhere over there in hollywood and you going to a movie premiere You don't got to call nobody and tell them you're here I mean now i'm not saying there's nothing wrong if you do But to me when we said checking in we talking about fellow shipping with other brothers Now if you start to try to take it now If I try to go to old cliff some of the worst areas in old cliff and shoot a music Over there. Yeah, and I'll talk to nobody I'm gonna go over there and take advantage of this community and this scenery and all these people paying in trauma I would expect them to want to text me. Yeah, you know what I mean? Who the fuck would think you're gonna go to somebody else's poor ghetto and just go take advantage of somebody else's Miss fortune and then only all they got and think you can't even shoot a video at least the city gonna charge you Yeah, I think about it even even when when I remember we was in Chicago and I was talking to uh, It was a minister seymour and he was like man, you come to Chicago you need to check in y'all not gonna keep out. He was talking about the jews and everybody You're not going to come shoot a movie here and not hire the people from our city. You're gonna come here What we doing, you know I don't I don't get that whole shit from black people where it's like I saw somebody say white people as a man in my comments I had this conversation before and he was like, you know Taylor Swift don't got to check in. I'm like First off Taylor Swift ain't going nowhere near no trailer park Not at all Taylor Swift took her mother fucking ass to the trailer park. She better fucking check in She go to the wrong one. What the fuck gonna do something to it. That's real So again, it's just when these people that are succeeding in life Well, they're doing well want to take advantage of these poor places and go monetize the scenery Keep your ass in Hollywood or Beverly Hills or Bel Air shoot your video. You ain't got to pay nobody but the city And I bet you're gonna check in with their ass They showed something like that. I think it was ice spice or somebody who went into Bronx the other day to shoot a music video Lotto Lotto. Yeah, and I'm sure she did check in. Why would you not? Why would you want to go in somebody else's community and take it? Who the fuck you think you is? You got to you got to because it's your respect Take your ass from respect. Take your ass to Bel Air and just go shoot a video in the middle of their streets It was ass going to jail You're gonna sit down Man, thank you so much for coming on the show man. We'll see you in Dallas You're gonna be you're gonna be a regular. Yeah, you're a boss. Listen, y'all got y'all in trouble Y'all really in trouble. I got a lot of content to talk about Y'all in trouble. You see what's going on over here boss talk 101 Man g Malone glass Malone. However you want to call it. He on boss talk 101. He rocking with us. Yeah Yeah, it's an honor and a pleasure my brother. It's all love Check it man. Hey man, make sure you guys check the the next clips coming up It will be glass all glass Malone y'all got to see him It's gonna be dope store.com the crimps store.com buy album. That's it right there Hey, man, thank you. It's been another great segment of boss talk 101. What a bullshit start and we out