 So one of the question was, in your opinion, what will be the biggest innovation to come in the next 10 years? And maybe this one you can... Sorry. Practice. I can hear you better. In your opinion, what will be the biggest innovation to come in the next 10 years? And actually, what do you will see your theory of consciousness going in 10 years from now? You are talking about the next book. My hope would be that in 10 years, a sufficient number of people understand what I'm talking about because returning meaning and purpose to human life is the most important innovation that we need. Technological innovation is great. They continue to occur, they will take their course, but if we do not evolve our consciousness and the sense of who we are, we are doomed because this technology otherwise would be used against us. That's it. As simple as that. Okay, so reading another question here. What do you think would be the most influential person or agency into this new innovation process? Well, basically the people that are awakening that understand that we are now machines and they want to understand who are we really and beginning to move in a direction of personal discovery. This job has to be done by each one of us. It cannot be done by reading a book and repeating what you read. You've got to do it within yourself. Each of us needs to understand who we are within ourselves. That's the only way that it's going to work because only within yourself you know if what you perceive is right or wrong. And you know it absolutely. If you are really serious about it and you want to know, you will know. The same way that happened to me 30 years ago. I was unhappy about my life after having achieved everything. The world says that if you do this, you should be very happy. And I wasn't. It was the time I was studying consciousness. I studied neural networks, neuroscience, biology and so on. I wanted to understand this stuff. And I had an opening where basically is in the book. There's no time to tell. But basically I experienced myself as the world that observes itself. Now that's a mind bender. How can you be the world that observes itself? You have to experience that. It's not something that is logical. Exactly like quantum physics is non-logical. How can an electron be a particle in a wave? Exactly the same problem. And I experienced me as a particle, the observer and the wave, the world. It's very interesting because the next question that we receive. It's unusual for the environment of engineering. But what is your view on soul versus consciousness? Is consciousness in your world the same as soul in many philosophers? The consciousness is the capacity to experience through feelings and sensations. What philosophers call qualia. The fact that I know not because I have signals in the brain. A computer has signals in the brain and it does whatever it does. It goes from signals to action. Nobody home there. No feelings. No sense of self. No sense of the world. No understanding of what it's doing. But we have between the signals and the experience of the signals, which is qualia, something happens. That capacity is not in this physical world. It is in another physical world, which is the quantum world that was mentioned before. So it's like, look, suppose that you are controlling a character in a computer, right? Like a video game, right? But not with joysticks. You have a costume that every movement that you make is automatically taken so that the character simply does what you do without you having to think about it. Then you have your goggles. You see in 3D the virtual world and you hear the voices of people there and, you know, and your voice is heard. So suppose that you are in this environment, okay? Now you have a sense. You basically think that you are in a real world. I mean, you see space. You see space. But where is the space? The space in the virtual world is not this. Space is the space created by the computer. But you perceive space. You move. You do. You do stuff. You can even get so in control or so, you know, so, you know, are captivated by the game that you forget that you are actually in this world, especially if you are a kid, right? And so all of a sudden your consciousness is focused on only that reality. Okay? But where is the experience? Where is the reality? Is it in the computer? Is it in the character of the computer? No, it's in you. All right? Now let's make it another step now. My consciousness of this physical world is not in me. It is in that entity, quantum entity, where the experience resides. So my body is like the avatar in the computer. But have you seen the Marvel movie Ant-Man, where the guy goes back into the quantum realm? It sounds like we're in this space. If you haven't seen it. But the point is they cannot go back to the quantum realm. You see, that's the old point. The old point is that there is irreversible transformation. I mean, the quantum world is many dimensions and dimensions. That's where we have the experience. Right. People don't understand quantum. That's the problem. But everybody says quantum. But, you know, but saying quantum and understanding quantum, two different things. Yeah. Maybe, Sergey, if I go back to your first question, the answer to that from what I heard is it's like the innovation. It's not going to come from a government agency. It's not going to come from a market leader. It's going to come from just like everything else and innovation from an entrepreneur who understands these types of things. Yeah. Because the entrepreneur translates something, you know, translates something that is in his mind into a product, an idea that is, you know, there are words or pictures or images of what I view. So an entrepreneur, you know, is essentially a translator from a higher mind, a higher mind where there is intention, purpose, and ideas. Competence. Into symbolic form. Yeah. Which can be a product. You know, you know, this is a symbol. In my model, this is a symbol. Right. My body is a symbol. But my consciousness is not in the body. So, but really just the analogy or the metaphor of the, you know, the virtual reality that I made before can get you pretty close to understanding what I'm talking about. Because when you control a character, the experience of that world created by the computer, the experience and of the character that you're embodying is not in the computer nor in the character. You see? So that tells you immediately that we are playing the same game in this physical world. This physical world is our construction. We are constructing this. And we think that we are living in it. But we are constructing it. The body is living in it. But the experience is not in this physical reality is not in 3 plus 1d. So that's how that's how powerful this is. Paul and you, Federico, have just answered the other question. Someone just started a career of engineering. Where should they focus? I think this is exactly, you know, the focus that I mean. But they should focus in what they really feel like that they want to do. The passion. What they're passionate about it. Absolutely. The passion and the desire. That's really what drives everything. It's the desire to do something. And then, you know, then you take the rest of it goes with it. But if you don't have the desire. You know, having started and founded a few companies, you know, it's such a cliche. But I have to ask how do market leaders or established companies allow for this type of entrepreneurial spirit? How do they break down the natural bureaucracies that, you know, force people to leave the company and start their own own ideas, their own company? Well, I mean, frankly, they shouldn't even try to do that because because it is inherent in a structure when it reaches a certain level. That the, you know, the number of entrepreneurial spirit on average decreases, right? Because you need more doing than inventing new things. You need inventing too, of course, but percentage wise, you know, that naturally decreases. And so, you know, by people going out, they provide new innovation that serve the company that let those people go out too. In fact, you know, you can acquire the company then later. If they are successful in that goal, the ones that were not successful. So the best way is to spin it out to give them maximum freedom and don't try to manage in your corporate process. Why not? You should manage the innovation necessary to go to the, you know, to the adjacency of the marketing which you are, you know, you're operating. Of course, you don't want to let that go. So you need to maintain that ability to innovate. But, you know, you cannot do everything and many people can have ideas that are not necessarily what the company should be doing. So let them go. I mean, let them go do their stuff. And then maybe five years later, this company has done something that you didn't see and then you can buy that company back. Exactly. In fact, many, many, many, many small companies, startup companies and that being bought by a larger company. Elon Musk just did this with SolarCity, right? He just spun it out. They created some things and then they just bought, Tesla just bought them back. Then you bought it back. Because it takes a different environment, you know, a larger company because more bureaucratic, you know, an entrepreneur hates bureaucracy. You want to get things done like me. Yes, knock it down. Any other question from you? No, just to thank Federico for the time. I mean, this is the book Silicon. Yes, and it is available on Amazon and you can also. But also in Italian. Publish also in Italian. And you have also a website, right? Siliconthebook.com. So if you want to buy the book and read the other interesting story inside the book, please do so at Amazon. And I want to thank you, Sergio, for putting this together. This was really great and Federico again. Thank you for your time. Well, it's been my pleasure. I always, always, always be happy to hear Federico. It's very interesting person as we have seen here. And I was reading the sentence here. Our technology starts with you. I think that's the most appropriate that we can ever choose having here Federico today. I mean, I extend the invitation for your next book to present the book again here. You are always welcome here in Santa Clara. You are our neighbor. And please visit us anytime you want. Thank you Federico. Thank you, Sergio.