 Welcome back to Nintendo Prime Live If you want me to turn the studio lights on let me know I had a tinge of a little headache a moment ago, and then when I turned off the lights the headache seemed to go away So but I can't turn them on like I know it's really grainy as an example without the lights on Because obviously this camera is not made for low light situations So if you would like me to turn the camera on or turn the lights on you know what? I think it's a little bit unprofessional actually seeing how grainy it is now that I'm actually live So we'll turn one of them on at least And see if the camera can correct itself looks like the camera corrected itself They were just the one light on so we'll try to go with just one light and I'll go from there. I usually have you know Two lights firing at me Hey guys doing the night. I hope you're having a lovely Friday tg. Ah, F They got it's freakin Friday because Obviously a lot of us are really looking forward to the end of the week I actually am looking forward to the end of the week myself because hey, I get to be kid-free tomorrow as of 9 30 in the morning my parents are Taking all three of my children to go visit my sister out in Minnesota and their new baby cousin That is or yeah. Yeah, their cousin my niece that is very exciting for them They get to spend a weekend over there. They're spending the night gonna have a good time and me and Yulia The mom and dad get a nice break because we don't really get these breaks very often unless we expire unless we hire Very expensive babysitters And even then it doesn't feel like much of a break because let's say we hire babysitters and we go to a movie or We go out with some friends We go for dinner. We we have some drinks When we wake up at 6 in the morning Because we have to the kids are here So it doesn't feel much for a break because we can't say pin We can't enjoy our night too late or you know, I I have to be up with the kids in the morning So like if I'm drinking I can't like actually get buzzed because I had to wake up. It's a whole mess So It's nice that I don't have to worry about that tomorrow. So that's gonna be a lot of fun I have no idea what we're doing yet. I know Yulia mentioned wanting to go clubbing I don't really know that we're gonna necessarily do that a lot of clubs aren't even open Still especially that where she's thinking to go clubbing out in Minnesota a lot of those clubs I actually looked up weren't open. So, you know, there is still technically a pandemic going on So it's not too surprising That being said, that's not why you're here. You're here because we're gonna be talking about some video game news Some hot news Fresh off the press. We have a lot to talk about today And I want to make sure before I even shout people out that I get this link to you guys because We have a special deal Right now it literally is only like through like a handful more hours tonight. You can get A skyward sword HD for just 29 99 at best buy Again, this is only available for gosh not a couple more hours Not even let me double check how many more hours are left on this. I know that it was a special one day only sale So the ideal ends in three hours and 45 minutes So at midnight central time the deal ends. So, yeah, this is a really really amazing deal And I you know, if you haven't picked up skyward sword HD This is obviously a really great price in my opinion to get in and it's a temporary Sale that's just going on to the end of tonight. Now We did get a member chat in saying just receive that controller Haha, you did and the feeling dude. I told you I wasn't kidding like we take on sponsorships And I'll always tell you hey, we were set this controller for free. We were paid to do an ad But I'm telling you I really love this controller You don't have to believe me. You have the full context of the situation. I'm paid to be positive about that controller and Have to pay me for my positive thoughts in terms of what I actually think I love that controller and he's talking about the guli kit King Kong to pro switch controller. So No, it's the shout out everyone. It's here in the chat. You want to be sure to just say something in the chat And I'll say how do you welcome Brian? Welcome to a member. Let's hit all our members up quick all of the members of Nintendo Prime Let's go. We got Don Lewis Nintendo all stars is here as well And that's it actually right now. So pretty pretty short list right now We got Charles Trudell is here solo Nepion is here William Burgos is here sweet life of D.O. Brando Yvonne Francois Aubrey Jackson. Hey, Sue's Calderon K-Dog Israel is here Jose Valerquez is here and Young tuna I need you to take a shot. Well, we only do shots for super chats So I don't just randomly do shots because otherwise I would be drunker then a Sailor going down with the ship knowing it's his last hurrah and Gets into all the rum and decides to have some good fun before going down That's how quickly I would get drunk. So that's why I don't just do shots Whenever the hell I feel like it because then I started losing count and when I at least have the super chats I'd be like, okay, I did this like and I know by how much the the chats were what shots I did and all of that so Yeah, we do do shots and we got UV grape up in here. We got some Dr. Cherry rum Chata We got tequila Jose Cuervo here only comes out for $100 chats because that stuff messes me up big time Some Dak remix with rum. I don't know. Anyways, how you guys doing? We got Robin Sid here Javier Nunez Nintendo rocks good 98 E Primify is here And we'll see who else shows up I don't really know how big the stream is gonna be tonight because obviously we're using a thumbnail with IGN So we get to talk about IGN and this would be the first story we talk about today besides the scabber store HD We're not sale right now 29 99 at best buy get it now if you don't have it sale ends at midnight central time So like limited time to get it. It's why I pinned it But I really want to talk about this and I got it. I got update the text Let's uh, let's make this work here. We gotta do that and I got to update the text here. I'm so prepared We're gonna call this freaky Friday, baby It I don't know I'm feeling a little freaky tonight Maybe it's cuz I know I'm about to be kid-free for most of the weekend, but I am feeling a little freaky and We get to talk about IGN Um, it says IGN is looking. Okay. This is my cat Bailey Just get some context of who cat Bailey is. Okay. She is a the current IGN senior editor acts of the blog god creator Nintendo voice chat co-host so you might see her on Nintendo voice chat the podcast she slash her That's what she goes by for pronouns past US gamer editor in chief So really highly experienced have new tip DMs are open and you can DM her with news tips She put out here This hiring post and this hiring post has gotten quite a bit of controversy And I find some of this controversy fascinating because my take on this is probably not to take you're expecting So she said IGN is looking for new freelancers, okay Freelancers are you me your mom your dad your brothers and sisters your friends just chilling at home Okay, it's not people that work full-time IGN they're not looking for full-time people. They're not technically even looking for part-time They're looking for just people who would like a little extra cash on the side, right? Hey, you need you need a little you need a little money on the side You need a little side job, you know like how you go work at gosh door dash or You know stuff like that, you know, you're not doing door dash for a living. You're not doing XYZ for a living, right? You're not being an Uber driver for a living You're doing it as a freelancer on your schedule on your time when you have time to do it, right? It has nothing to do with supporting your family other than it's just an extra source of revenue That's basically what freelancing means you can get full-time freelancing gigs at times But that's not what this is they're looking for here So that's the clarification on what they're trying to hire are people that just are looking for a little bit of extra dough On the side and have a little bit of spare time. Okay So says they're looking for new France freelancers because they absolutely by the way do have full-time news editors Like they have full-time news editors. That's the thing. Okay, they have people who are on staff full-time Salary benefits all of that. That's not what this position is So you need to clarify that because some people think that that's what this is and that this is what they pay their employees You're not technically an employee. You're a freelance contractor All right, there's a difference anyways So IGN is looking for new freelancers to assist with the daily flow of stories in games entertainment tech and science in particular they're looking more so for the entertainment tech and science games are sort of They think they have it covered, but they want some help especially in these fields $20 base rate per story. So you get $20 You know, which is cool Sliding scale for heavier reporting DM with an introduction portfolio for details Okay, so that's fine, and I actually DM'd her and applied I didn't give her a full portfolio though so I this is twice now that I've applied for basically the same gig and You know, I get ignored because I'm not really being that serious about getting hired You know it'd be cool to make a little bit of extra dough on the side, but I'm not really looking into being that now now When we're looking at this right when we're looking at this. Okay, this seems bad You know here's what she said we're especially looking for folks interested But then you see all these reactions and these are just reactions here. We've seen content creators and other people reacted as well I enjoy writing and thought about going that route I know this is a very entry-level sub of $20 from the biggest gaming site out there glad I didn't pick this profession It shows the last time they put any kind of wage in the Twitter sphere There's a start at $20 for news stories and more for others the tweet is unclear So then she clarifies $20 for basic news aggregation $50 for slightly more involved stories as in having to you know having to Have a fun community angle on it like diving deep into say the smash community to do an article That isn't sourced from another outlet. So this would be original content, right? So you get $50 for basically an original article $20 for news Regurgitation that's what it is or $300 for an in-depth multi-source reporting So if you're doing sort of an investigative report and I could see the $300 for the end of it for the investigative reporting is a little bit Low But it says $300 and up so I think it's really gonna depend on the story It's gonna depend on how long it takes you like it only takes you a day to do all your investigations and another day to write I think $300 is probably a fair A fair amount, but if it's taking you three four days a week to do all your investigation get the report together You could provide them so you all you know clock it in and showing them all the things you've been doing To prove how much work you put into it and obviously they'll read it and check it out And you know, they might value it higher than $300 you don't know Okay, so I'm not really interested in this angle here But paying the $300 for in-depth multi-source reporting because that is a lot of work, right? That that is Significant work that could take many many days to put together because you're you're investigating Something you're doing investigative reporting like let's say you want to talk about that that speed guy today, right? But you don't want to just instant react You want to go into a whole bunch of research into it watching a bunch of streams of his over the years and all this stuff to Formulate all your thoughts and your opinions and and all your evidence together Well, that's going to take you a while to do you're not just going to pull that off with a simple news regurgitation So I'm not gonna talk specifically about the $300 and up for in-depth multi-source reporting because that is gonna vary and Without having the full context of what is $300 like $300 is the baseline for this But like how much is the upper echelon on this and what are the? What are the exact parameters that determine if it's $300 $500 a thousand dollars? What are the parameters that determine that we don't know okay? So it's very hard to work to talk about this honestly, and I've seen You know rich from review tech USA and a bunch of other content creators talk about this And this one in particular and all I could say is none of us have enough enough information to really pass judgment on this part Because this is very vague Extremely vague. You have no idea what the pay scale and how it scales. All right The $50 is one that I find interesting Because this is basically finding a fun community angle that's not sourced from the outlet social media Reacts etc. So like this is this is basically Original editorial work now. I can tell you right now. I Feel like I'm in a unique position to talk about this I am the former editor-in-chief of Zelda and former calm I have also written news articles for Nintendo everything. I have written articles for Zelda universe net Zelda dungeon that net as well I am well versed in the editorial space when it comes to Covering news and also writing independent original articles. Some independent original articles take a lot of time and a lot of research, right? and That would probably fall into this multi-source reporting Whereas 50 elephant or slightly more involved stories finding a fun community angle These are more opinion based writing and I could usually bang out One or two of those kind of articles per day and they would probably take me two and a half ish hours To idealize it do some little light research on it and then put it all together now This also comes because I have a lot of experience writing. I Believe it or not as good as you guys think I am at this YouTube thing, which I don't actually think I'm that good at it I'm actually significantly better at writing I've always had a knack for writing a skill for writing not a skill in the sense that I'm a great Technical writer not a skill in the sense that I use the most a wide swath of vocabulary imaginable, but I'm very good at taking an idea from my head and Formulating a nice article or editorial around that idea better than I am making videos And I'm really good at doing that and I'm not trying to toot my own horn I just did it for years So I wasn't good at it, but then I did it almost 20 for almost 20 years. I wrote guides as well So I have a lot of experience writing So $50 to me isn't as good of a deal as the 20, but It's more than I ever got babe to put this in perspective You know, I get a base salary of $1,500 when I was editor of chief per month But then I also had some commissions off of social media that you know was significantly more than 1500 Because obviously 1500s not much from 1500 kept me writing news now. I Want to talk about this part here? Because it's $20 for basic news aggregation is what's getting Controversy and before we go further. I have to shout out G. R. R. Rocky Thank you, G. R. R. Rocky for the 99 Stop buddy, we get a shot in for you here. That's gonna be I think that's gonna be this dr. Cherry Yep All right You're very entertaining to watch Nate and I love your kind of well, thanks Jesus All right, so There's that there's that side of things but I'm gonna show you another take as well another take From somebody who because a lot of these takes in here are gonna be from people that that don't have any Experience or any real like like $20 for a story. Is that 20 words? Unbelievable inflation except for pay You work for unethical people La blah blah blah lots of negative reaction and then you get to this person who um, you know Tried to make a point as someone who does have experience as well writing And it's a small independent Meg paid me more than that now I want to clarify a magazine is not the same as an online website I'll explain this in a moment. This is still trash for newbies or for those with experience This is why journalism went downhill hiring people who will take broke paychecks and They write like trash too. Those are the standards so a magazine has a very different Target audience then a website and that is because people don't go to Magazines to get their news they go there for well researched hot opinions and You know really in-depth looks if there is gonna be news like let's say the news is for Entertainment tonight magazine and they're talking about the Will Smith slap at the Oscars right and they're gonna talk about how oh No, he's banned from the Oscar for ten years Okay, there's gonna be a lot of research and interviews and deep diving into that story to create a really in-depth Article within that magazine that is going to take a lot of time and thinking of $20 to do that Would be pretty ridiculous, but that's what a magazine is and that's why magazines are still popular in some sense So saying that a small independent magazine paid you more than that. Well, of course they did because you're putting in a lot more work Let's go to IGN comm and let's look at an actual news story on IGN comm a real new start doesn't matter what it is Okay, so here's like a one on destiny 2 Okay Okay, I mean they're just they're just listing basically a bunch of stuff from the game What's the source on this they're listing a bunch of stuff from the game and it is sourced from Themselves, I think is this original work. This is this is an original work plus, you know You do get to link your socials as well, which is always cool but all right So that's kind of a more out there example. It's more of an original one Let's go with like the latest news Here we go because this is the kind of stuff that you'll be doing for $20. Okay, Thor Love and Thunder breaks a record. You won't like Yo, what is up everybody? I'm a team wait. No, this is their video content. Sorry. That's right I should have read that that was the fix Let's go. Let's go. Let's go away from the fix Ios Montreal is no regrets about guarding the galaxy sales. So here's more of like the piece you would do So this is just an ad that's auto inserted and so you write a couple paragraphs You come down here and then you quote Whatever the news is right that this comes from Guardians of the Galaxy senior director John Francois Dugas told Eurogamer So it comes from Eurogamer So you got all this you write it you write a bit more and that's the end of the article This is what you get paid 20 bucks for look at this you see this You see this? This is what you're paid 20 bucks for So let me ask you. Let me ask you. How long do you think it took them to write this? If you had to guess it's Let's just call this to what a paragraph and a half To paragraphs with this is just a quote. So it's copy pasted Three maybe four paragraphs if you're lucky, how long do you think it took them to write this any guesses? Because this is a $20 news piece. This is what they're hiring for 15 20 minutes about an hour Because that's what that's what this is to be clear to be clear To assist with the daily flow of stories. Okay, you are regurgitating news 15 minutes 30 minutes two hours see all over the place All over the place I can tell you right now. I would have this story done in Under 10 minutes It's not that hard. Here's what you do You log in for the day Okay, hey, I'm gonna write I'm gonna write a news article So you open up IGN and you go to let's say We let's say in this case. We're doing entertainment, right? So the first thing you do is you load up IGN and they have a back-end system By the way, so it'll be different because you'll be the look at the back end and see what stories people are working on So you don't end up covering the same story, of course So it's gonna be a little different, but the board we're just gonna do this from the outside looking in Okay, we're just in the outside looking in And let's go to say their entertainment section because they specifically want to let's let's say tech Let's say we're gonna go to tech, right? and so The this is obviously an accessory thing see that I can see why they want more in tech because look at this look at this You see how there's like barely any stories and this is why they want people for tech Because they had a story today and then one yesterday one the day before so on and so forth So they they need more writers for this space. They do not have enough people covering tech news Okay, so where can you get tech news from right now? You can follow a bunch of tech youtubers. You can obviously follow a bunch of places on Stuff you can go to PC gamer PC gamers a great place for this you can also type in like I don't have I don't have the tech news site Come out so we can go with tech news and let's say what the verge sure the verge has tech stories So let's see what they're talking about see they have more all these stories today Amazon says Let me see they might not count that as tech Samsung, okay, that's an opinion piece just kind of scrolling quick Warner Warner media and discover Here we go YouTube is testing a stricter this would this would be tech related YouTube is tracking Is testing a stricter moderation system? All right, let me see. I'm reading this All these people getting mad at it YouTube has a big problem YouTube comments, okay, okay These are just contributors talking. Where is the actual test? Okay, okay, and this monitor really sucks for this text looks like crap on this monitor All right Okay And YouTube seems to know it Brownlee posted Friday a new experimental moderation feature Okay, so it came from Marques Brownlee and it says this increased strictness content moderation tool is Is a new experiment region that's been in the works for a bit. Okay, so I would grab this I would quote it. I would take this image. I would go to IGN I would create a new article because again, they don't have this story here. Okay, I go into their back end I would hit new article. I would type out my title and I would say let me see here YouTube is a comment to answer YouTube. Okay, YouTube is testing a new Moderation system for comments. Okay, let's just say that's my title type that out quick I would you know, I let's just type up this article. Let's just type this up as a news article Okay, remember this is taking me longer because I'm explaining to you guys Rather than just going through the process of doing it But let's let's type up a news article, right? Let's do it here Okay, we know it's from Marques Brownlee And we we know a general disorder is this is the news all this other stuff in here is not the news This is the news. That's all the news is all the rest of this stuff is fluff. This is the news. Okay All right, so so let's open up our notepad and Let's go like this title YouTube is testing a stricter comment moderation tool All right Has had an issue with spam for a Decade now only seemingly let's see increasing over time many YouTubers have spoken about this at length and this again would not be what I would use I'd use word or whatever their back-end system is Let's go word wrap All right, let's get this in focus here And let's make this more the size of an IG an article which is about about that much space and you're gonna see That's cuz you know gotta look good. All right. There it is You do an article over time many youtubers have spoken about this at length and YouTube is Implementing an experimental system to help curb this problem Here is what I always forgot to spell his name Marquez brown Lee has to say Oh There's what Marquez Brown Lee popular youtuber again, this is fluff All right, and then I would either insert tweet if I'm allowed to insert the tweet directly Sometimes you're not allowed to so IGN doesn't let you do it I would just go I would just open the tweet up. I go like this. I Would go in here Since let's just assume they don't all right We got our quotes around it and then I would insert the image It is nice Issue and taking it seriously. What do you think? YouTube could do to better Optimize the elimination of spam in the you to comment section now remember This would be linked so on IGN this would be hyperlinked to his tweet and that's it. That's a story. I'm done That's it someone time me. How long does that take? That's 20 bucks. How long does that take? Okay? And again, this is with me explaining talking out loud. This isn't me just in the back end That's how long it took me to put this together For 20 bucks Now it needs to be run through a spellchecker It's got to get approved by by their by their staff to go live, but that's that's not mean I don't have to worry about that. I Submit it. I did three minutes of work That is what people are bitching about Now I am highly experienced that you saw how easily I put that together You saw how I was able to add a little fluff, you know Here's what marcas brownlee a popular youtuber said about it how Like look at this there's a couple paragraphs Quote image. It's basically as long Not a review um We're you know, it's basically as long as Okay, and look you can even insert the tweet You can even insert the tweet Like this this type of reporting takes no time Okay, now that person with the magazine said this is why you know, uh, what does it say, you know Broke paychecks and they write like trash The point of the article Isn't what you as a writer Personally have to say about it the point of a news article is to deliver the news now notice how In this writing I did there's no personal opinion. I didn't say is this good. I didn't say man Here's all the issues. I think youtube has as a youtuber Which again in a video like if I was covering the story As a video I would be going more in depth, right? I would be talking about my experience with youtube Show you examples from my youtube channel on comment spam and then talk about what I think might work And then I would go into what youtube is attempting to do and whether or not I have access through this tool yet because they're rolling out slowly to a limited amount of youtubers So I would go more in depth about it because a personal experience and because I like to create discussions around it But when you're just reporting news when your sole goal When all you're doing is regurgitating news That's all it is. That's it That's why none of these ign news articles are long your regurgitating news They are paying you To get the news on their website so people can be informed. It's not an in-depth look at things It's not going into personal opinions and biases. It's just taking the story and producing it. Okay Okay, so When you're doing that $20 for that news piece Holy shit, and hey ign if you're watching right now, that's how quick I can get news out. I'm available for hire I'll gladly do this now I would estimate okay I would estimate Throw in a few more minutes on right. Let's say it's 10 15 even 20 minutes because you got a research right So first thing you gotta do is find the news to post Okay, now I found the news in a quick google searches. That's not always going to be the case Sometimes you got to dig deeper for news Okay, tech news they clearly are not covering much tech news So me personally if they hired me I'd be focusing on tech news like a whore because they're barely covering tech And because of that there are a billion story opportunities for me to write every day because they're not covering it They're not covering the latest gadgets popping up on Kickstarter They're not covering the latest developments with amd and intel and nvidia. They're not covering tech properly Okay So that's where I would probably end up focusing because they have less people focusing on that area Tons of people focusing on gaming tons of people focusing on entertainment Not a lot of people focusing on that. Not a lot of people focusing on science either. Okay so So the thing is the thing is I would choose that because there'd be more stories available to write And it'd be easier to find the news because there's hardly anyone writing stories for it For 20 bucks per piece Now, let's just say on average it takes 20 minutes From looking up the news to writing about it and then submitting it to ign And they'll decide when it gets published because I doubt I doubt I can directly publish. They probably have to approve of it Okay, and let's say they come back to me in One revision let's say they come back to me and say I got to make like one change or one error correct, right? Okay, fine Let's just assume it took me 20 minutes. It didn't I wrote that article in less than five Well, let's say it took me 20 minutes And I do three of these in an hour. I just made 60 bucks an hour I've never made 60 bucks an hour in my life If I just did that For three and a half hours a day Not even 3.2 hours a day For five days a week. I would make $4,000 a month Only working 17 and a half hours a week And I'm supposed to believe this $20 is bad for news regurgitation I used to do this for a living That is an insane amount of money Now I'm good at this I'm experienced at this. I've done this a lot Exactly what they're looking for. I've done it a lot I'm going to be a lot quicker than a lot of other people I'm going to be a lot quicker than say even people that worked at other outlets that do freelance work And want to come here. Why because their focus their focus is going to be on Let me fluff up this piece as much as I can Let me think about what things could I inject into it when all IGN wants is the news presented to their fans That's it. They want the news presented to their fans. They're not looking for fluff They do have the ability to do that and by the way, if they wanted me to add Like if they came back and said hey, your article's a little short. Can you add a paragraph? Oh, I can BS a paragraph No problem No problem. I could BS another paragraph I could easily fluff up any of this. Why really fucking good at it. You want to know how All my college papers That I have written in the last uh year I've had to write five big like 10 page papers Everything I had to say could have been said in a page But instead I took Multiple points. Basically. I wrote I wrote my I wrote my big I wrote it. I wrote my entire thing It was a page, but I had to make it 10 pages Okay, so I broke my paragraphs in half And then I took each section and moved it and do a different page Okay, so I took a couple sentences put at the top of page 2 page 3 page 4 page 5 page 6 page 7 page 8 page 9 and page 10, right? Those were going to be my topic sentences for the page The rest of that page Total BS I would literally just Right right off the top of my head Just pull out random scenarios that I could think of in my head that apply to whatever that topic That I put in that thing was none of this stuff is needed to actually understand anything But it's there I put it in there because I need 10 pages I call it I'm BSing nine pages of my work And every single one of them got A's Four of them. I got 100 percent on one. I got like a 95 So I'm really good at just throwing a bunch of fluff in that you don't really need that doesn't actually add to the work It doesn't add to the work But it looks nice. It sounds right. It looks like it belongs But it doesn't So to me when I see that IGN is offering $20 to do this My lord Hire me I'll do it full time. Don't give me benefits. I'm gonna make eight grand plus a year Or eight grand eight grand plus a month. Sorry my bad You have hardly anyone doing tech stories. I could bang out 10 tech stories a day Easy and that's just in tech. That's assuming I don't write a story in entertainment It's assuming I don't write a story in the gaming section Which I'm obviously always up to date on the gaming So if they're missing a story or I can find stories IGN doesn't cover to cover easily because IGN doesn't cover everything I on my own could find 10 to 20 stories per day to write Well, let's do some math on this Because just throwing out those numbers. I showed you in real time How quickly I could throw together one of these Showed you in real time So in real time, I did it in three minutes Let's just Exasperate a little bit and say it takes me a bit longer to find a story because it can all right So let's say it's 20 minutes And I got um, you know, so let's say an hour. I do three stories. So we have three times 20 So we make 60 bucks an hour Okay, let's say I do 10 stories per day. Let's just go to 10 10 stories per day. All right times up by 20 All right, so we got 200 dollars a day Okay, okay, and let's say we do that for I don't know 20 days Monday through Friday, right? That's $4,000 When I was a zelda informer Just covering zelda There was a day I banged out 34 news stories about zelda I could have made 680 bucks if I did that at IGN And then let's just say I could somehow Let's let's say scrap that let's go with a 20 story per day pace, which will take me probably about six hours All right, that's about 20 400 times by 20 Oh, and let's say, you know what I want to put in half time on weekends too So I want I want to throw in an additional Uh two for eight days I want to throw in like an additional eight days on average at that 200 so eight times 200 It goes that plus to 8000 I could realistically be pulling 10 10 thousand dollars per month and I'm to believe That IGN is not offering fair pay Look, they're not hiring me to come to their studio come to their office and work their full time They're hiring me to work whenever the fuck I feel like it They're hiring me to decide my own hours And decide when I want to write stories I'm a freelancer I get to come up with news whenever the fuck I feel like it They have to approve of it being published But for every approved published news piece I get 20 bucks I just showed you live in real time without doing any prior research How quickly and easily I could write up a story You want to pay me 20 bucks to do that per story? Fuck. Yeah, sign me up so a lot of places like Rich from review tech USA, and this is no shade on rich. I don't know that he's ever been a journalist in his life He put out there Dude, it could take You know five hours to do a news story and 20 bucks for the ripout even when it takes you two hours What a ripoff only 10 dollars and out Who the fuck is taking two hours to do what I just did if it's taking you two hours to do it You shouldn't be in this industry You're not good enough at it You're just not it's a waste of your time. I'm going to tell you right now It's a waste of your time and you should go do something else go work at your local gas station and make more per hour I'm not kidding. It's a waste of your time If it takes you two hours to do what I just did it's a waste of your time So again, I I don't really see the issue with what IGN is doing Everyone and a lot of the negative reactions are coming from people who Don't do this and don't have the experience or they think this is more than it really is They are looking for news regurgitation It's not a difficult thing to do And I'm highly skilled at it Yeah Is everyone going to have the experience in the skill I do? No For 20 bucks to do something that takes 20 minutes max It's like a hell of a good deal. How many of you guys If someone told you hey, if you do this one simple thing you don't even have to get out of your chair And I'll give you 20 bucks dollar per minute Would you do it? Would you do it? If you could get paid a dollar per minute, would you do it? I would That's why I've applied half half haphazardly applied I didn't really I didn't give her a portfolio, which is why I've never actually Been taken serious in my applications because I didn't provide an actual portfolio Which my portfolio by the way for writing it would be It's decades long. I did it for 20 years. It's So much experience so many examples. It's insane So like my portfolio would be massive That's one reason why I just don't want to put my portfolio together Even though I could make a shitload of money And typing for 20 bucks 20 dollars per story and it gets published The trick's not getting published Because here's what you do Here's what you do Here's what you do you find this story You grab it You link it to whoever the editor is right? I don't know who the editor is who approves of the stories I go hey, I want to cover this story about this thing and here's my source on it They'll either approve it or they don't I don't begin writing until they say yes If they say yes, I know what's going to get published So I'd wake up every morning. I'd spend about an hour I'd gather like 40 stories Send it off to them and be like, hey, which one of these could I publish? I don't want to be shocked that they come back and say all of them But you're never going to get this done today Watch me Have the shit done before your lunch break is over Thanks for the free money I'm not kidding when I when this is going to sound crazy Just the news stories not the original articles not the guides But just news regurgitation I could write every story on IGN Her day on my own All of them IGN averages publishing Right around 48 to 50 ish news not editorials news Regurgitation pieces per day. I actually counted it up earlier today. It's a right around 50 48 to 50 news per day. I went I went back about a week Did I can bang that all of myself? I don't need to help I just need you know, they want editors to look look at over this I can bang them all on my own every single one of them Not a problem Go ahead and pay me 20 bucks for each one I mean, hell, what is that? Let's go. Let's go the old calculator I just did that for a day Fuck I'll take a thousand bucks Like I now I'm gonna tell you I'm not saying that I would want to do that It wouldn't be enjoyable I would be slaving away. I would probably get some hand cramps from all that typing But it's one of those things where I know that I could do it Because that's how easy it is to do That's how easy it is and people out here bitching about $20 an hour or not even an hour $20 per story It's good pay It's good pay. I'm just gonna flat out say it. It's good pay. You're regurgitating news. It's good pay My average youtube video That takes me anywhere from two to four hours to put together and that sounds insane But I'm gonna tell you right now a majority of that time is research and you might go and date Why does it take so long to research? Well, a lot of it's just trying to find stories Trying to cover nintendo news every day and have enough interesting stories to make a video about Or one big story that's worth making a solo video about Doesn't exist every day There's not always a big enough story to make one video on so you want a bunch of stories But you want interesting stories. So you'll spend time on twitter. You'll spend time on reddit You'll spend time on all these different news websites You'll spend time, you know everywhere trying to just dig up any minute story That's worth talking about in your estimation And it takes me a long time to do that because i'm so focused on singular topics that interest me When it comes to writing at ign it ain't about what interests me That ain't got nothing to do with it It's about what I can get approved by their staff to write news stories on or their website It's a job and you know like youtube is about what I want to do So that's why it takes me so long. I spend a majority of that time researching I'm trying to find crap. I want to talk about That's not the same at ign. I ain't worried about what I want to talk about I'm worried about What they will let me write about How many writers do they actually have published? Let's see if they did have a list of staff I don't even know if you and oh and by the way another reason I'd like to work for them Another reason I'd like to work for them I briefly mentioned this but I'll show it here another reason I like to work for them is because It's uh So this is a freelance writer. So this guy right here got paid 20 bucks for this article. Okay Ryan densdale is an ign freelancer who occasionally remembers to tweet at the last densdale And he didn't he happened to not link his twitter account like we saw someone else do but um And he does news. He does tech I mean, how many times is this guy how many times this guy right per day? Let's let's take a look at at his list here um One two Three four I mean, no, this is someone who actually does this by the way So let's just go from this story to 24 hours prior right because that's when he was working So if we want to go up to 34 hours ago, so one two three four five Say double five maybe six maybe six stories. So he decided to write six stories yesterday basically Six stories yesterday from this one free. This is someone who's actually doing this right now He made 120 bucks Are any of these stories super complicated? No, again, quoting quoting a tweet from call of duty Write in a few things, you know Automatically inserting, you know, this is an automatic insert from my gm. Their system will insert related content Nice and simple not a big deal Well, look later scarves ought to make ellen ring one of the toughest boss fights themselves the toughest bosses okay This is just reposting the daily fix Super easy to do Um put the daily fix at the top put it in text form. He put the daily fix in text form Super easy to do. He didn't even do any of the research on it See if he's getting a new randomized pirate lord adventure. Okay. Look at this. Look at this He probably spent an hour and a half at most putting out six stories and he made 120 bucks I'm sorry. I don't know what the what the issue is I just don't know what the problem is being a freelancer and making 20 bucks per story This is easy This is one of the easiest jobs in the world Don't listen to people when they tell you being a game journalist is hard. No Investigative journalism is hard That's not what this is. This is news regurgitation journalism It's super easy to do because ign doesn't do it Like the cnn's of the world cnn will go grab a news story and then heavily inject a massive opinionated article around it Trying to sway people to the way that author thinks about that story And that's not what ign does to ign's credit. They just give you the news Here's the damn news here's a little fluff about related content we have to this news That's it It's simple It's basic. It's easy I actually prefer it this way Now it's not as easy as say go nintendo.com Go nintendo.com. It's even lazier with it. If you want to hire me and pay me 20 bucks a story. Cool so, um His ones are his ones are are super easy. Look Check out over an hour's worth of interviews. Well linking ign's video a couple paragraphs done Done done done and this is go nintendo So like they make they make their stuff even easier to do But I you know rami cowboy does most of his own posting for that So and he puts out like god 40 50 of those things a day easily I spilled my shot that I didn't do yet. So i'm Trying to clean up over here before it gets too sticky Because of course I spilled the really sugary shot Uh, don't worry. So i'm gonna get that shot and plus we had another um another uh super chat in from young tuna I see I saw that buddy. I got you just give me a second here while I clean this up I mean, I'm gonna have to go at it with some uh, which we're called some cleaner. No some uh soap and water later because it's gonna be sticky Hey, nobody asked you why why did you turn us? Nobody talked to you TV Nobody asked you to turn on replays of the masters. My god anyways I find I just find this whole story to be ridiculous. I find the outrage at it ridiculous I I feel really bad For kit bailey who's sitting there, you know trying to defend herself Um and trying to defend what they're doing. I think people grossly misunderstand what the job is And or they lack the experience or like not everyone has The skill set that I do forget how fast I can do it Not everybody has the ability to quickly add a couple paragraphs of fluff and do a news story It is a skill. It's a legitimate skill that everyone has yulia. Give you a prime example I love my fiance. She can't fluff worth a damn. She can't bs anything worth a damn so She would suck at this job She would basically write the title put like do the quote and not know what else to say And some people are that way and for them this would take them a while This might take them two hours to come up with enough text To actually get published and to that I say it's not the job for you Cheers and then we had a young tuna Thank you young tuna for the two dollars He said uh double shop these. No, I don't do double shots for two bucks Sorry, bud But uh, you do get a shot of this daiquiri stuff for that. So there's that So what are your guys's thoughts on this like maybe I'm crazy I just showed you live how long it takes to make one of these articles one of these news pieces Just showed you now again. How long it takes me Other people with less experience or no experience are going to take a lot longer. Um Yeah news regurgitation is easy News regurgitation is easy as shit now, though They will never officially call it news regurgitation. That's what it is They are grabbed. They're sourcing other outlets and other places for their news Just like us use tubers do It's regurgitation Regurgitation it's it's super simple So I don't get the outrage It comes from people who either have never done it or people who completely misunderstand what the job is It's simple as shit I'm not gonna say anyone can do it But a lot of people could do it. Maybe not as fast as me. Maybe they couldn't bust out 50 60 stories a day like I could But um What's a daiquiri? Uh, so it's like strawberry and orange Um mixed with uh rum Sometimes vodka depends on like if you get out of the bar sometimes they do vodka instead of rum. Um Let's see here. Uh overdue this week. I bought eight games Jesus trying to get all the exclusive physical games my hot damn, dude Yeah, this this this is actually the real daiquiri mix It already has the booze in it and then you're supposed to put it with ice and blend it, but Oh, you can do it on the rocks. I guess It is alcohol. Yes Yes, um Rick Rubikam Thank you for the two dollars Rick Rubikam Um, I overdid it you bought eight games. Yeah, I saw that man. That's dude. That's an insane amount of games Sounds like you should apply. I have applied. Um, again, though that they will not hire me until I put together a portfolio and again Put putting together the portfolio itself will be more work than I would do for them in a month And I don't make any money for the portfolio and there's no guarantee I get hired Like if I knew if I knew if I actually put together a portfolio that they would hire me I'd do it. It's well worth it. Oh honey. We need what wait We we need three four thousand dollars extra for the cruise Don't worry about it. I got it Let's go right through IGN for a few weeks Like It's a stupidly simple job and like I just show like their tech section desperately needs writers Like nobody's writing for tech They need so many new writers for tech It's insane Like let me look at the other so they wanted, uh writers for tech. They wanted writers for entertainment Um, so let's see here. They wanted for movies and television Um, yeah movies. They got they got quite quite a number of They got quite a lot of people writing for it too Akeem Lowenson Zoki Hansen Jesse Sheedon Amelia Zollner Adele anchors Matt Fowler, these are all people that published up today So movies are getting quite a bit. I probably wouldn't focus too much even then though. They didn't cover that much Didn't really cover that much movie news. I know about some movie stories. They didn't even put up today Anyways, um, so again, I would have stuff already to add to that television. God, there's infinite television Infinite television. There's no way in hell they have enough writers for television What's their science? Yeah. Yeah, they're they're missing stories today in television. And then let me look at uh, they said something about science I don't See a science section. Maybe I'm maybe it's a section. They're hoping to add I don't see a science area right now So they probably are just trying to hire for it, but they haven't opened it yet officially So they're trying to look for a science, but yeah, the tech section needs articles like crazy Like did they even get the big story for Nintendo up today? To me, there was two stories we're talking about today for Nintendo. Did they get them up? Let's see Okay, they got up the big one from Nintendo Metroid Dread Boss Rush mode. They got that one up That's it So as an example So there's a free update for Metroid Dread today that gives you a boss rush mode Okay, that's a big story. They did get it up. They got it up five hours after the story went up, but hey It's okay Um, I would have got it up sooner, but that's that's not really there However They do not have the story about Skyward Sword being on sale right now today only 50 off at Best Buy And they do sales news videos Not a single like they have one here Nintendo Switch games buy two going free. That's Amazon They do not have the Skyward Sword 50% off today only at Best Buy That's a story that I could cover in gaming right now. They don't have it up at all nothing I would I would have covered it for earlier today like this is stupidly easy Oh man And I'm good at this. I'm good at looking up shit. I'm good at finding news. So like IGN if you ever watch this video just know I'm really fucking good at this and you should probably hire me I would be a gold mine for you. You would get so many views off the shit. I'd write because you'd be so up to date on things It'd be insane Plus I'm a youtuber So I already I'm going to talk about some of the stuff I'm going to write about anyways on my channel So there could be some cross promotion there Plus it's really good for me because I get to link my twitter account Heck maybe if I could sweet talk you you'll even let me in my little profile Say mentioned that I do a youtube channel and link my youtube channel on every article I post on IGN and when I'm busting out 15 20 articles a day on IGN That's a lot of back links to my channel from IGN driving a lot of traffic and a lot of new viewers to my channel Fuck what am I doing? IGN hire me This is a mutually Beneficial arrangement. I'll give you a bunch of news. You give me a bunch of money and boost my youtube channel Sounds good. Is that link not working? Hold on that link should be working On why is that? Every time narrative What are you doing? Let me unlink that hold on there try that link instead Try that link instead That link should work. I just I just reposted That link should why is that going to lego star wars? Hold on What is going on wait? What what is happening right now? Why is this not working copied? Why did that go to lego star wars? God damn it What is this thing doing right now? Are you trying to fuck me? Are you trying to fuck me? Okay I'm on this link You trying to fuck me Okay, got it finally got the real link hold on Let's remove that Got it. This link works third time's a charm. They say right third time's a charm Third time's a charm. We got it. We got the right link up Anyways, this is this is for uh rick. Thank you so much buddy. Sorry. I got confused. It was my it was actually my fault, but There you go. That link works. I confirmed it works William Burgos. It should work now. It should work now The the link I put in there is the that link works every time. All right Um say hello to my little friend The other news today as I said there's a free update from Metroid Dread gives you a boss rush mode So that that's pretty cool Um, otherwise you guys got any questions q and a time Ask away any questions you got it could be about ig and it could be about writing. Um Um Why is ig and hiring news? um They're hiring freelancers because To be frank What they want you to do is super fucking easy and not worth paying a full-time staffer to do Penguins charlie who the fuck is penguins charlie? I'm gonna google this guy right now here. You guys can watch me. Who the fuck is penguins charlie? Am I gonna regret google on this live? Oh, it's that guy What's his experience? See if he has any experience in the field video game commentary Let's watch his video Let's go ahead and watch his video on this Or does he not have a video on it? Is it i try ig and drama here? Let's watch his video together and Let's let's let's just see Let's just see what he has to say about this To say that gaming journalism isn't the most prestigious or well-respected career in the world right now Especially over the last few years But that doesn't mean that I think all game journalists are bad people or evil Gamer hating tyrants that want to throw every gamer in the gulag and burn the industry to answer your question rick Uh, we haven't had a single new donation since the first night But I do agree that a lot of times gaming journalism feels like a bit of a joke Some of the articles are some of the stinkiest most nonsensical pieces. I've read And today I I read a tweet from ign that really put it in perspective on how we got to this point It really explained a lot about modern game journalism It was this silly little tweet here that I had to do a double take on because I thought it might have been an April fools joke or someone impersonating ign But this is legitimate. This is a blast to put out there hoping to find freelancers that'll work for ign And they're saying that the base rate per story is twenty dollars Now i'm gonna blank out the person's name that posted this because I don't want anyone to harass them And I don't think it's their fault. It's not like they chose the twenty dollar base rate number But I bet right now you're getting that little tingling in your nutsack saying that doesn't seem right That's a little weird twenty dollars for freelance journalism seems a bit low Fucking middle school student council newspaper pays their kids more for articles in their paper than ign's paying freelancers here So to make a a point here Is you're regurgitating news for twenty dollars You're not writing full-on editorials Again Misconception of what they're hiring and what the job is so I can already tell how the rest of this video is gonna go He doesn't understand what they're hiring for He doesn't understand why they are hiring for this And he thinks they're massively underpaid because they're comparing it to kids writing full-on multi-week editorials for a school newspaper This is Wrong He's wrong Flat out Penguin zero This entire video is misinformation This is how misinformation spreads I'm gonna call it out when I see it This is how misinformation spreads Misconception over what the twenty dollar an hour per person or twenty dollar per news piece person is doing Misconception over how long it takes to do it and comparing it to things that are not actually comparable to what they are doing This is A misinformation spreads 1.6 million views did it hit the trending tab doesn't look like I hit the trending tab We're a minute and 28 in and he has not said a single true thing to this point Let's continue 20 dollars per fixed that link by the way Now they did say that it's a sliding scale So you get paid more based on like I guess the size and the research that goes into the story But a base rate of 20 per story is alarmingly low That's not what they said again misinformation again Base rate It's the only rate news regurgitations 20 dollars More in depth original opinionated articles are 50 dollars And then if you want to do a full research investigative journalism, it starts at 300 dollars and scales up from there He's already misreporting What the tweets themselves said Why It's everyone likes to crap on the big dogs They like to crap on the katakus and the ign's which is fine. Sometimes the criticism is absolutely deserved in this case It's not Oh, I can't believe they actually even posted that information in the initial tweet here That feels like a detail that'd be on the fine print of a shitty contract that the devil would have you sign By the way, you're only getting 20 dollars for your work You know, it honestly reads like something parents would tell their six-year-old to get them to do chores like Hey sport come here if you take the trash out empty the dishwasher clean the dishes mow the lawn clean the pool I'll give you a dollar What a bad association Mowing the lawn taking the trash out doing the dishes emptying the dishwasher That's probably I don't know two hours of work depending on how big the lawn is You have to mow and if you have a riding lawnmower or a push lawnmower I just showed you it took me three minutes Told you a kid gets excited like oh my goodness a whole baller. Yes pop pop. I'm on it right now That's just wild to me that they're just proudly plastering that on the tweet Again, I feel like that'd be something some scummy company would keep to themselves Like after you DM them with your overqualified portfolio, they just say yeah, I'll give you 20 bucks for this garbage You suck Now they did shed a bit more light on this saying that the 20 dollars is for basic news aggregation And they'll go up to 50 dollars for a slightly more involved story Which is like finding us a fun community angle that's not sourced from another outlet or social media And 300 and up for in-depth multi-source reporting I feel like after they explained it further it made it even worse Because now you know exactly what they kind of expect for 20 dollars, which is actual butthole This is pure dog shit here. So it seems like for 20 dollars You can just take a random tweet post it on ign call it an article and collect 20 bucks for it Oh, here's a tweet with four likes from twitter user x Atheist shadow lord where he said horizon zero don should have been game of the year Publish like it's crazy. And then when you That's irritating That's irritating That's not what ign does Hold on. That's not what ign does. Yes, I just showed you taking a tweet and making it news But that's because the tweet itself is news It's not news what some random person on the internet thinks about a game. That's not news. This Is news. This is news ign is reporting news What the fuck dude? Yes, you are right in that it's bare minimum barely have to do anything, but you're still reporting news. It still has value You're not grabbing some random person's opinion on the internet boasting an article about it You're actually reporting news a new trailer comes up. You're posting the fucking trailer What the fuck dude God what a gross mischaracterization Of what news is Versus posting opinionated bullshit, which for honest a lot of youtubers do Myself included. Hi, how you doing? I'm nintendo brim. Most of my opinions are trash. All right And again, this is a very popular 10 plus million subscriber youtuber And I can already tell you now. I've never by the way. I've seen this guy before. I've never actually watched any of his videos So he's probably a perfectly fine gentleman and maybe he makes some really good content But a lot of his content is like this where he clearly is uninformed on the topic Uninformed on the subject doesn't have experience in what he's talking about And then goes on to make a lot of baseless assumptions about what he's talking about that Sound good and sound great because people like hating on big media. So it sounds good. It sounds great Like before he even got to the clarification. He spent, you know, two and a half minutes Trashing the 20 dollars and then finally gets to the clarification. Oh, by the way, it's not really just 20 dollars Here's the other stuff We're three minutes of 13 seconds in and he's he's basically misinformed grossly understated what you have to do And just basically told a flat out lie because it sounds good and of course 88,000 likes only 257 dislikes it's What do they call this? Popular speak It's popular to hate on ign The instant reactions to something igm posted are negative Let's hop on the negativity train regurgitate by the way, which is what he's doing What all those negative comments are saying without any direct knowledge of what you're talking about And looks intelligent and smart for making igm look like a bunch of jackasses When I just showed you how quickly and easily I could make almost 10,000 dollars a month Doing what ign wants to pay me 20 bucks for and what's 10,000 120,000 a year for taxes Sounds pretty good to me. This is It's frustrating watching it But there's a lot of people that do this they latch on to popular think speak And this is the direction they go with it They don't have experience. They don't know what they're talking about So they go along with the popular thought prep thought processes of all the negative reactions And then they look superior. They look right Then it looks like their opinion that's based on incorrect information Is superior to everything else It's so dumb you look at the $50 price tier It specifies don't source it from another outlet, but that's for 50 bucks So it seems like they're totally fine if you copy and paste from another outlet. Just not oh my god It's not what it is. It's 50 dollars for an original article Non sourced content means original content. Oh my fucking god I want to like pull I want to pull like a donald trump right now Fake news fake news What the actual f It's not copy pasting someone else's news article It's writing an original editorial piece for 50 dollars. He doesn't know what he's talking about He has no experience Holy crap. This is what I used to do for a living guys I have 20 years Experience doing the exact things that IGN's hiring for 20 years And in one month I can make more than I made in an entire year from doing it. I IGN's paying just fine Know what the hell you're talking about He's not going to come on a podcast I'm too small time. He I bet you if I even added him or dm'd him or said anything He he wouldn't even respond. I'm too small I don't know. He's a 10 million subscriber channel You know what he's going to think when he sees if he even here's a whisper of this live stream He's not even going to look at it. He's not even going to watch it He's not going to care to talk to me because I'm too small and this is the problem He's massive youtuber spreading all this misinformation who don't have the experience or the knowledge and they're going to blatantly Misrepresent everything that's happening Because It looks good. It sounds good. It gets the views and it gets the likes and it's probably what they honestly believe Because they don't know any better And the only people that could do something about it would be someone like me Who isn't going to have the millions of followers because all of these massive youtubers if you notice None of them have experience In this field Can you tell me a single massive multi-million subscriber youtube channel That actually has game journalism experience Jeff grubbs game mess. Okay. Well, Jeff grubbs youtube channel is smaller than mine All right, um Um kind of funny games Yeah, they don't even have a million Um Easy allies again. They don't even have a million misrepresentation misinformation Because there's nobody that these big youtubers have to answer to They don't have to defend these points to people that understand how this works They just get to regurgitate it They get to say it they get to just say what the popular think speak is get all their likes get all their new subs Well people like me look like ass hats for defending ign When i'm not even saying that ign's a great place to work. I have no fucking clue I know nobody at ign It's so stupid Hold on. I do have a phone call quick and play some music for you guys. Sorry that was uh It was my fiance She was talking about the kids tomorrow. There's a pancake feed. She wants me to take them to all right Oh, jeez now. She's calling again one second. All right. Anyways, that was her calling Let me all right. Let's let's go back and continue watching this because so far i'm three minutes and 22 seconds in And he hasn't said one true thing yet For $50 which explains very much so how ign has ended up with so many Awful articles that really just feel lifted from other outlets, which isn't anything groundbreaking. We're not reinventing the condom here I'm not blowing the lid wide open on a crazy conspiracy. It's well known that these big outlets Borrow stories from one another because they're covering The news right so the but it's not copy pasting Yes, it's called news regurgitation You're not copy pasting their store. Did you see me when I wrote about that story from mkhb? That I did earlier in the stream I barely read their actual article I went straight and skimmed through it to find what the real news was I didn't copy a single word from the verge. It is not copy pasting to regurgitate news You're just delivering the news news delivery. It is about the When did news? When did news become about anything other than the news? It's a rhetorical question When you're reporting on news when your job is to just deliver the news When did it become about more than just delivering the news? The news articles are going to look the same on the verge versus kataku versus igm Well, maybe not kataku so much but verge ign game spot of the news stories are going to look the same Because the news is the same Let me tell you everyone who copied that metroid dread story. You know what they copy pasted The news from the tweet that contained all the update information Oh my gosh every news story about the metroid dread update has the same information in it like When every Of course they do if they had different information Then that means there's a news outlet refuting the news. Oh my god. Oh my god They sound the same because they're delivering the same news When you're reporting on just the facts It sounds the same It sounds the same Because the facts don't change whether you read the facts at ign kataku the verge game spot Game informer Wherever you read the actual news from The news story is going to be the same because the news is the news the news are facts The facts don't change because of what outlet you read them on So of course the news is going to sound the same because it's the same news story It's not about copy pasting My god, this guy They'll take articles from other places and just change things around a bit to tell the same story But for ign here with this freelance job post to just outright kind of hint that they're okay with something like that Is pretty brave and pretty bold. They got a little wacky here today with this one I'd say and then you get to your actual almost reasonable pay for work Which is the 300 dollar tier which is actual reporting. It seems like they're looking for I don't know normal rates for game journalism game journalism But 300 feels like it should have been around the base rate per story You're writing for one of the biggest gaming outlets in the world ign.com And they can't afford to pay you a reasonable rate per story $20 is the best they can do that's fucking crazy. They're actually flicking peanuts at you So I want to look at something quick Is this per month? Hold on. I'm trying to figure out what the okay. Yeah, okay. So igm Gets about a hundred million impressions a month. That's a lot That's a lot Now I don't know how these impressions are spread out between news and guides and video content I have no idea how this stuff is spread out on their website But they get about a hundred million views a month The reason I bring this up is I used to be editor-in-chief and used to also manage ads and used to also see what the pay rate is on ads Now igm gets more premium ads, so they have better pay rates But let's just say as an example That they paid $50 per article Or a 300 he says 300 per new per news article Okay As a base pay and they do 50 a day as I mentioned earlier Okay, that would be $15,000 per day that igm would be paying to freelancers to pull stories per day Times that by 30 days And you're at $450,000 or basically half a million he thinks Freelancers that take 5 10 20 minutes to write a news story Should be getting paid 300 dollars per story and igm should pay into the tune of half a million per month You know times out by 12 months. It's pretty simple math. You get 5.4 million dollars I don't think igm makes 300 dollars per news article It's probably closer to a hundred dollars per news article because you got to remember Not all news is created the same. Some stories are going to get more views than others Okay, you could tell typically about the comments Um, so idols Montreal has no regrets about guardians of the galaxy sales 57 comments. He sees oxen scott 33 comments Academy bans will smith from the authors of events for 10 years 462 this story here probably made I don't know more than every other story combined for the day this story here probably netted them I don't know a couple million views Whereas destiny 2 where is there this weekend? This probably got them a few thousand views And I can tell you right now the payout on a few thousand views ain't much Brandon sky, did you just get here? Hi, Brandon. Did you just get here? If you did you missed Where I factually proved I can make $10,000 a month On $20 per news article. I created an igm news article In three minutes Completely original did my own research Pulled it off in three minutes And I could pay 20 bucks for that $20 is not for an article $20 is for a news regurgitation About 15 minutes ago running a cutscene heavily dungeon in final fives 14 saw the blow up I thought this is really funny. I'm gonna stick around for defending 20 bucks an article Then you missed the entire defense Let's go to uh What was the tech that I looked at guys? right Uh, I want to do a review. I forget which one it was that I clicked on Oh, yeah this it was just a reuploader video. So DeLorean releases a teaser image of its new electric car This article which is based on this tweet Has what let's just say that's about one paragraph Maybe two paragraphs here because they put only two sentences here not even so so you got two paragraphs here About four paragraphs worth of text with an inserted tweet and then a reupload of A trailer this article took less than 20 minutes to write And ryan dins dinsdale who I don't think ryan dinsdale. Is he a full timer? I think he might be a full timer. Let me see Is he a full timer? Is he a freelancer? I can't I couldn't remember. He's a he's a freelancer He got paid 20 bucks for maybe 20 minutes of work It is grossly overstated How much work it takes to create a news regurgitation article What is a news regurgitation article? Grabbing this and making a news post about it It takes 20 minutes or less to make a news article like this It's not investigative journalism It's not original work You are finding news on the internet and regurgitating in an ign 20 minutes or less And the thing is I put my money where my mouth was And I wrote a story. I went to the verge. I found a tech story I wrote up an ign article And I did it in three minutes finding the story writing the story three minutes ryan ek that is incorrect That is incorrect. You are incorrect It is not a $20 base rate. You are incorrect $20 for basic news aggregation Carlos Morales completely disagree But you know why I disagree Carlos Morales? I have 20 years experience writing news articles I was a gaming journalist for two decades It ain't that hard It ain't that hard chief Um, I know you have your industry experience But I'm saying how is it right for the biggest in the industry to charge nothing on a very much un-clarified amount of work It is clarified Here's the problem Brandon's guy Here's the problem Brandon's guy You don't know what the tweet's talking about do you? When you read that tweet When you read this and the follow-up tweet you have no idea what any of this means, right? No idea what any of this means ryan ek they are not paying more than $20. Oh, let me show you the math Let me show you the math What does $20 an article get? Remember guys What did I prove I could write an ign news story In five minutes, but let's say it takes 20 Okay So it takes 20 it takes 20 minutes. So that's 60 bucks an hour Because I did three news articles in an hour And let's say I wrote 10 for the day That's 600 Whoops Sorry, let me get this right. Um, let's say I wrote um, I gotta do the math right here 20 times 10. Sorry So I made god damn it That's not what I meant to do 20 times that should be 200. All right 200 and then I do this for 20 days Monday through Friday I did make $4,000 for three and a half hours of work a day I'm sorry The pay rate is good The pay rate is amazing. If I did this full time I would make almost $10,000 a month at 20 bucks per news article If I dedicated eight hours a day If I dedicated eight hours a day at 20 bucks per news article, I would make over 10,000 a month How is that bad pay? I'm getting paid doctor money to sit up my computer and type up news articles for eight hours It's easy I showed it live. It is the easiest the 20 dollars for a news piece is the easiest 20 dollars You'll ever make in your life. I don't know if igm will let you have that much But they're missing the point random. I don't know that igm will let me write that many articles They might put a cap on how many articles per day I can write You're missing the point It's freelance work. It's not a full-time position. It's not something you're doing to support your family It is freelance on the side work You're doing to supplement your income you work from home You make your own hours you work whenever the fuck you feel like it and we can write as many news articles as they allow I showed the one guy Was writing six articles a day So let's say let's just go we know for a fact I proved one of their freelance writers doing six a day So we know at least six a day are allowed. Okay, so you do six a day Times you're 20 you get to 120 Times you're 20 days and you still get to take 2400 dollars home for an hour and a half of work per day Imagine that you could just uber for an hour and a half Every day for 20 days and and make 2400 dollars People are grossly misrepresenting what this is This is stupidly easy takes minutes to create news articles This isn't oh, it's 20 bucks an hour. No, it's not It's 20 bucks per story and you can get three maybe even four stories out in an hour You potentially could get all six of these stories out in an hour and a half but Carlos Morales That's not what they're asking They're asking for news regurgitation If you want to go into the back story and create all this other stuff That's called investigative journalism and they pay you a hell of a lot more for it And it's going to take you a long time At the moment I have a supermarket deli work at 15 25 an hour, which is rather brain dead work Barely more effort that gives barely more money Tell me a supermarket you can work at for An hour and a half a day and make 120 bucks I don't think that you're grasping this I have proven they will let you write six stories a day I proved it Their current freelance writers can write six stories a day minimum So if their current freelance writers are working are doing six stories a day So we have now have a basis for it at 20 dollars per story. They're making 120 dollars a day I proved it takes 20 minutes or less to make a story to find the story Write the story post the story takes less than 20 minutes So at six stories a day 120 bucks an hour and a half of work You tell me you can find a deli job that's paying you 120 bucks for one and a half hours of work a day A brand in sky. Why would I call your rate a lie? You said 15 25 an hour That means in the same time you're making what 23 bucks an hour and a half of work at the deli at 15 25 an hour Is what 23 24 dollars? You are making significantly more money for barely any time It is grossly misrepresented what ign is hiring and it's grossly misrepresented because everyone reacting to it doesn't do it They don't have the experience. They don't understand what they're talking about because they've never done it It is stupidly easy mind numbingly easy repetitive tedious easy money work If igm was paying more than 20 bucks an article they would go fucking broke Like this guy here was arguing that a regurgitated news article should be a baseline 300 dollars I'm telling you right now. They don't make on average 300 dollars per per news article put up I'm telling you that right now. They do not make on average 300 dollars. They are not making 500 thousand dollars a month off of those individual news articles now Combined in the news articles by the way that would be making that means there has to be a profit in there somewhere So let's say they paid out 500 thousand dollars a month to just freelance news writers Making those 50 articles a day those 50 news pieces a day okay So where's igm's profit margin off of that Because every single penny that went into it goes back to the writer. How does igm survive as a company? How do they pay their taxes? How do they pay the employees the editors that are above you that have to approve of your work and look at your work before it goes live They're full-time employees. They got to get paid The senior editing staff has to be paid The video content creators the reviewers etc etc etc You're not the only people working at igm and the news coverage is just a minute fraction of the content that igm produces igm on the whole Let's let's just look this up right now um How much is igm worth just go like a net worth Uh, let's see what 94 bucks per share Um, let's see here net worth and earnings All right Their net worth is what 35.35 million All right That's their supposed net worth Roughly and they earn an estimated 8.84 million a year Didn't I just show you guys that if they paid $300 per news regurgitation article that that would be what 5.4 million dollars per year I showed it earlier That at 450 thousand dollars a month for their 50 articles at 300 dollars per article Then we're talking news articles news aggregation They're not talking about original editorials investigative journalists none of that just the news regurgitation articles They have about 50 a day if you paid 300 dollars per to the writer It'd be 450 thousand dollars a month 5.4 million dollars per year paid out to freelance writers when they only make 8.84 million a year That would be grossly overpaying for the work The work isn't worth 300 dollars for 20 minutes. It's not It's just not What igm is hiring our news regurgitators at 20 dollars a pop For less than 20 minutes of work It's easy It's simple and they allow you to do at least six per day as we can see with current freelancers at the website And that might not even be the limit that might just be what that freelancers willing to do because they have their own jobs Right, they have a full-time job Most people doing this freelance stuff at igm getting that extra 120 bucks a day have a full-time job elsewhere They're taking an hour and a half of their free time spending it writing for igm supplementing the income they already have taking home an extra couple thousand a month And supplemental income for barely any work It's not that bad of a gig and if they would allow me to write 10 stories a day Fucking perfect. I can live off that. That's 4 000 a month. I already showed it's four thousand dollars a month 10 stories a day If I want to throw weekends in I can push it closer to you know, six to eight thousand dollars a month And that's assuming that they let me work weekends And again, we know we can do at least six if they let me do 10 I can live off of that So it's not That crazy It's not that crazy Okay So brian, I can address that part To be fair, nobody goes in the journalism for the money. This this is true You you it doesn't even matter if you're going to cnn or anywhere else. You don't get in the journalism for the money um, that's just It doesn't exist and there's no guarantee you'll ever Become a big enough name to make the big bucks, you know So you don't go into journalism for the money that that that is true Gaming journalism makes much less than other writers in other fields. You are correct and this is why When I look at how ign is price is structuring this pricing If they let me Make 10 of these news pieces a day And take home 4 000 per month I think there's a potential I might be making more than a full-time writer at their website on a salary I actually feel like I could be making more than them ign gets the benefit though. Here's where ign saves money. Here's where ign might not mind if I'm making 10 articles Or they wouldn't mind if I was making 20 articles. They might not my ign might rather pay me 8 000 a month To write 20 articles a day 20 news regurgitation articles a day then pay a full-time staff and here's why Since I'm not a salaried employee. I'm a contract freelancer They do not have to pay me health insurance. They do not have to pay me retirement And they do not have to take out any insurance against me So because of that ign saves on the back end cost of an employee Well, the person doing the work Makes all that bank And it's up to them to get their own insurance to do their own insurance, you know, whatever And they can work elsewhere because freelance work doesn't preclude you having a job and doing other things like I wouldn't have to quit youtube to to do there. I want to have to quit my it job to do this work That's not what freelance work is freelances always work on the side that if you happen to make enough money from great Someone mentioned earlier that they do make enough money doing uber or whatever to live off it and that's great. Good for you Um, I don't know how that cost works out. I don't know if you've considered car maintenance in there The fact your car is going to be dead sooner and you're going to have to buy new cars more often I don't know what considerations you've made to just do full-time ubering But hey, congrats. I'm glad that you can do that and make enough money doing that to do it for a living And I hope you really enjoy it Um, and that's great and that's kind of the same thing with this you can do enough of this if they allow to do it for a living For very little work so All of this is grossly being misrepresented Because people don't understand what the work is they keep thinking It's jation schreyer level editorials for 20 dollars For those who don't know who jation schreyer is he does investigative journalism You're not doing jation schreyer level journalism You are the bottom tier of what anybody considers a journalist You do report news ergo. You are a journalist, but you're not a research journalist You are not you are not an analytical journalist Your job is to grab news And deliver it quick Grab this piece of news regurgitate it on your site. That is your job It's super easy. It's super simple It takes no time and you can make a shitload of money doing it at 20 bucks 20 bucks per article Even to me sounds like an overpay, but I'll take it I'll fucking take that shit to the bank um Ldk is part of kataku. Yeah, and again, this is how ig n's doing it. I don't know what they pay at other outlets, of course We only know what they're paying freelancers here. We obviously don't have a We don't have a frame of reference for what kataku or game spot or i or other places might pay for freelancer work We don't have a reference for it. So it's possible that other outlets pay More like the verge might pay a freelancer 40 bucks per news piece to regurgitate news So it's possible that you know It's possible to other outlets might pay more. I have no idea what the going rate is compared to others I just know that 20 bucks isn't that bad For the little bit of work you got to do you can make a lot of money um Jason actually does real journal exactly. He's an investigative journalist. So like he That's where and that's where in this tweet Kate Bailey points out That you can do that kind of journalism if you want to do jason schreyer investigative journal journalism They will pay you 300 dollars as a base And then they'll go up depending on how much work the time the interest level everything in that piece Which you can obviously talk to them before you begin the work, right? Like you're not going to want to You're not going to want to commit to something um And have it take you three weeks to come up with to really put together the article or take a couple months to Put together the article and they come back to you and say oh, yeah, you only get 300 dollars That is something that you will talk to them behind the scenes before you even start Researching this article like you maybe do a base level research on a really interesting topic that you could tell goes deeper and deeper and deeper Um, I mentioned before like this like like the speed streamer guy. That's you know hitting all the news stuff over the last 24 hours You could just report on the news as it is report be done regurgitate 20 bucks But if you want to investigate that story Dive deeper into it watch hundreds of hours worth of his live streams Dig through all the social media accounts talk to people who have streamed with him in the past Because there's a bunch of people he has streamed with a bunch of people he's played games with try to interview him If you can all of that's going to take weeks months Etc to put together a really big investigative piece Um this and you could take multiple angles whether it's on this particular youtuber Whether it's about gaming culture on the whole with young gamers and getting into streaming a whole bunch of angles You could take with it. They're not paying you 20 bucks for that They might pay you thousands for that That is something that you would obviously have to talk to them behind the scenes and get approval for before you You can put the work in because you're not going to go ahead and put that work in assuming you're only going to make 300 300 it would be like if it took you a couple days to put together something We'll give you 300 But if this is like a really long forum Jason Schreyer investigative piece Hell yeah, they want it They're going to pay you a lot more for it We just don't know what that is and that's why I didn't dive too deep into this I didn't dive too deep into the investigative side of the pain because there's not enough information here As someone with 20 years experience. There is not enough information here to tell you if this is a good deal or not Because you'd need to know You would need them to give you examples of what a 300 dollar piece looks like and what a $2,000 piece looks like And actually have them linked to you ign investigative journalism That represents all ends of the pay scale so you know what you're getting into But this right here doesn't give you that information that's information you would get behind the scenes by asking questions this This just means when they say for slightly more involved stories, which means finding a fun community angle That's not sourced from another outlet social media reacts, etc. What they're saying is If you write an original opinion piece If you write an original opinion piece you can get 50 bucks And I can bang out a couple of those a day. I used to do those at zelda informer back in the day They're not super hard, but they do take longer. I think it's not as it's not nearly as good a deal as this I think the 20 dollars for basic music aggregation That's where you can make some big bank This is a bit more time consuming you can still make you know 100 bucks a day Doing it. I've assumed they even let you put out two a day. They might only let you put out one a day um But yeah, that's what this is. This is just for an original opinion piece which Again, it really doesn't take that long to put together But it does take a lot longer than 20 minutes. You know, you this is one where you're going to spend a couple hours Putting this together And then you can argue is 25 dollars an hour worth it To write that for some people. Yes for some people 25 dollars an hour sounds amazing. Fuck. Yeah, we'll do it for others Doesn't sound like great It is more the minimum wage, but it doesn't sound like great That's why this is where you really this is where the big bucks are made This is where you make the big bucks for very little work. So anyways um Yeah, minimum wage and I live in Wisconsin minimum wage is still 725 However, I don't know of any place that actually pays 725 right now The lowest I have seen is 10 dollars I don't know any place in my area in Wisconsin In any ways that actually pays minimum wage, but minimum wage hasn't moved yet in Wisconsin. It's still 725 an hour Now to be fair, it's a lot cheaper to live in Wisconsin A lot cheaper we have this how you guys have seen a house tour before right? You've seen the studio tour Got so much my rent is I got I got a we have a um A little bit over a half acre of land We got a full basement full upstairs three bedrooms two bath We got what three giant living room spaces I will be Well, I'm gonna give you what it actually cost to rent this place not necessarily what I pay Negotiated quite the deal. We we we get a bit of a discount, which I'll explain but What this place actually cost the rent if it was somebody else I used to live on five acres of land on a four bedroom house for only 625. Okay, so this place Assuming that it was all fixed up into code, which is not it's a fixer upper Which is why we only pay 500 bucks a month because it's a fixer upper Um, but if it was all fixed up it'd be about a thousand a month to live here Hey, thanks shit Hey, shit, that's cheap as fuck three bedroom house full basement fully finished giant yard Your one bedroom is 1500 a month Yeah Like that and that to me sounds insane. I only pay 500 because it's a fixer upper So we do a lot of work around this place You know that these new floors installed, right? You know, we did a lot of the work for these these these floors back here Well, you just see carpet, I guess but we have we have these floors. You guys have seen them before Um, we did a lot of the work for those, you know So like You know, it's a fixer upper we put in work, but then we only pay 500 a month So it kind of all works out But that's because I live in wisconsin very cheap to live Very cheap to live. So This is just This is good money, man This is very good money because you can do this anywhere in the world This isn't like you have to move to california and go to ig n offices I can do it right from here. It's freelance work. You do it at home on your schedule and you have time so Uh, I think I do it on morgan someday. We're probably um We're probably gonna end up owning this house um It sounds like there is We're so we're not so sure that we want to stay here forever But the more we keep fixing up this house The more we like it Julia hated this place. Then we got new floors Unless she likes it a bit more Once I once I redo the upstairs We're going to be rip i'm going to be ripping out all the cabinets in the kitchen And I think we're going to tear down the wall that's between the kitchen and the living room We do a giant open concept up there. Once I'm all done with that. She's gonna love the place even more Once I talk to a contractor and see if I can kick our house back and and extend it out by six feet in the backyard And make our room and our second bathroom bigger so we can put a jacuzzi tub in She's gonna want to stay even more Once I get all the siding replaced on the house, she's gonna want to stay even more So far it's been reshingled. We've done the flooring. We've redone the deck Although I think I'm going to end up think I'm going to end up tearing the deck down And rebuilding it in a different in a different style Like there'll still be the main deck area I think I'm going to like extend a balcony that goes out along the whole backside of the house To our master bedroom and then when we when we extend out our room Which I want to extend it out six feet to the backyard and expand the house I'm going to have a door from our master bedroom that goes out to our own little deck area that connects to the main deck Um Like our own little balcony that you know, we can walk on over to the main deck So if I'm like if I'm grilling out on the grill on the main deck I can kind of just walk along the deck path over into into my bedroom if I want Um So like and all of this is going to take time like this is years of work Well, I mean this is like the 10 year plan and the thing is um They said if I if I do everything that I say I'm going to do We're going to get this house for extremely cheap Extremely cheap And the open market the house was like 180 thousand dollars Uh They might sell it to us for 80 If we if we pay for all the fix fixing up and they might sell it to us for 80, which is Fuck yeah 80 thousand for this place Sign me the fuck up That's why we're not so sure if we're ever going to move because we have such a good deal to get this Now this doesn't mean this will be our final home We might fix her up live here for you know 10 years and then decide Hey, let's let's sell the place and go get someplace nicer Because we could literally buy it for 80 and then flip it for 200 once it's all fixed up, but It's on the house market. Um Fire soul How's it going buddy? Yeah Thanks so much fire soul says just came back from watching sonic the hedgehog 2 great movie better than the first one Nice. Yeah, I uh, I was debating on seeing it this weekend um Let's go Almost broke my double shot glass almost broke it, but we're good. It didn't break. Um Better than the first one Cool. Yeah, I was debating on seeing it tomorrow I mean I might wait and I might take my kids to it Because they like the first one a lot So maybe I'll wait and just do it with the kids because I don't want to have to pay to go to it twice You know movie theaters are a bit expensive So maybe I'll just wait take the kids to it next weekend Also be less crowds Thanks for the time box. So New york new york city apartments, you can use the toilet jar at the same time and reach your bed. Yeah, dude I've seen some of the new york city There's a there's a real estate guy. I watch on youtube every once in a while that does new york city real estate and I just my lord It's why I can never live in a city. I need my spaceman I don't mind visiting cities and staying there for like a month Um, but I couldn't I couldn't live in a city. I'm just not made for city life Um Serious question. I was Wisconsin towards Mexicans. I would like to live in that area Sounds amazing for the price, but racism is something I consider when I move Uh, we're what part of Wisconsin are you started moving to see I can only speak for my area So like if you're looking to move towards Milwaukee, I have no idea um If you're gonna live in more northern Wisconsin say lacrosse o'clair Uh somewhere in that area, which is I guess more middle than northerns like bayfield like that's way the fuck north um So you're really gonna live in like the o'clair lacrosse area, Wisconsin dels area very friendly No problem with racism here No problem. We have we have mexicans We don't we don't have a lot of the uh darker, you know, like The african americans, you know, we don't have a lot of those in this area We do have some and we're pretty friendly towards everybody. Everyone's pretty friendly towards everybody. We have a lot of like in o'clair They have a lot of uh Asians Is that is that is that a race or is it like do we split it up by country? I don't really know but um There's a lot of uh, there's some diversity. Yeah, it's gonna be you are going to see if you especially northern, Wisconsin You're gonna see mostly, you know Caucasians, uh, but we're very friendly god. I've got a couple good friends angel and uh Uh god, what's his name? Why am I drawing a blank? I want to make good buddy's names kevin Angel and kevin, they're both mexicans and from milwaukee and Everything's fine here. No, nobody nobody really cares. It's cheap Literally, it's such a friendly area. It really is at least where I live. It's super friendly I have no complaints Um, don lewis by the way did a five dollar super chat I missed earlier Thank you Don lewis for the five dollars. Sorry. I missed that earlier says Have you ever thought of putting up an episode discussing your personal peeves? It'd be a way to get it off your chest. Um It's not gonna do well Here's the thing Here's the thing The moment you mention Like in this case, my personal pet peeve at the moment Is the way that people that have no experience With what ign is doing How they explain it and the thing is You can't ever mention that you're defending ign or defend notice. I didn't say defending ign in my title How many dislikes I'd have right now Heck People that came in to me talking about it without the full context of what I said like brandon sky Which brandon sky no problem with you buddy, you know, we're all good You know that I'm a pretty reasonable person. It's that try to be you know So if I have a take like that, you know, I think it's hilarious at first and then after I explain that You probably don't think it's so crazy to think $20 for news regurgitation any that bad But like people don't understand what it is They listen to all these youtube influencers that have never done this work They listen to all these people comparing what they do to magazine outlets They compare this pay to doing full-time salaried work All of that's different, you know Cheers Am I going to finish what video about ign speaking of ign? Are you going to finish that video? I don't know what video you're talking about Then we have that speed thing today. What's it? I something speed? I forgot what it's called. What's the name of that guy? I don't watch his content. So I don't even know I I God, I really don't know. I really don't know the name of these youtube. I literally don't watch this content um I show speed. Okay. Yeah, that's what I show speed and people are really like Torn on the whole I show speed situation You know, I did a video on it today and it's my most dislike video of the year Um, show you guys Actually, give me a second here. There's a couple things I can't show you but I'll I'll show you that So like when I say most dislike, that's not like it's crazy, but 88.7% like the dislike ratio So we have 86 likes and these are official numbers. This isn't an app So but 88.7. I mean you look at this 97 96 96 93 96 97 89 And this was the april fools joke and it even worse than that Like you can see i'm regularly up in the mid 90s. Here's 83 percent People didn't like my take on this because I didn't care This was the whole thing about physical games and so people didn't like that So maybe it's not the worst of the year, but um, it's not it's not good And I think it's because people are really torn People are really torn on this There's basically two sides of the story for those who don't know I show speed is currently being quote unquote cancelled for something he said about five months ago on a live stream playing valorant Um, basically they just lost a match on valorant. This is the context, right? He's playing valorant His the team of people he's playing with um, you know on voice chat lost their valorant match So afterwards they're trash talking each other, right? They're they're they're just blaming each other people trying to say that he sucks which When you go back and watch the stream, he actually played really bad. So He did kind of suck in that match, but whatever that's neither here nor there Everyone thinks their shit don't stink when you're playing competitive games. It's always somebody else's fault So they're all blaming each other, right? and then one of the team members says like two words wasn't offensive wasn't mean But it turned out that that person was a female it was a female voice At least it sounded like a female voice, you know, I can't presume but sounded like a female voice and the moment That I show speed heard her voice It's like a switch flipped It's like something flipped in his brain And he basically said Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're you're uh, you know, you're a bitch. You can't talk to me Get the fuck off the game and go to the kitchen and blah blah blah blah blah like You would girls can't talk to me. It was it was just it was Teenage, but I should speak 17 years old He apparently said this when he was 16 That's a way for people to diminish it when people say well, he's 16. He's 17 now Okay 35 what I said at 34 Not a whole lot of big fucking difference I'm sorry 16 to 17. It's not like you suddenly grow the fuck up. I'm gonna be honest here You don't grow the fuck up in a year And it wasn't even a year old. It was only five months It's irrelevant that he was 16 then and he's 17 now The age gap is irrelevant because it's only a fucking year Okay It's only a fucking year. So the age gaps are relevant That excuse is dumb The kid didn't grow up and get more mature In five months. It just didn't happen. In fact back in february. He made a comment on twitter Saying how he needs to delete the twitter app because he can't help but jerk off basically to every hot chick He sees on twitter so he needs to delete the twitter app. He just said that back in february And this is the guy we're supposed to believe has matured since he was 16 This is the guy who on live stream two days ago Called half the chat bitches. Okay. He hasn't changed He is who he is. He's an immature teenager who Has a very immature audience following him that encourages this behavior Who gets a lot of views and a lot of subscribers and is one of the fastest growing streamers on the planet because He is the stereotypical gamer He represents every stereotype of gamer That we try to disassociate with as we get older He represents A type of gamer that all of us know all of us have ran into at some point in our life And most of us don't want to be associated with And we all know what it's like to be teenagers We all know what it's like to play call of duty lobbies and madden lobbies and Valorant and fortnight and all these different lobbies where there's all this cussing and swearing and circle jerking and insults and Okay, he's trash talking like a mofo, right? But the problem of course is He's not just someone in his mom's basement doing this. He's someone who is in the public eye doing it And that changes things a little bit because it brings to the public eye the attention that nothing has changed 20 years into online lobbies So online lobbies actually existed in the 90s, but let's just say when we start with consoles with xbox It's been about 20 years And nothing has changed the sexist racist You know downright disgusting trash talking that was happening 20 years ago is still happening today Nothing's changed In fact, it's arguably more popular today than it was back then So there's been a lot of reaction to this on both sides. There's this is wrong Kid should be raised better kid needs to be held responsible He's breaking to us on youtube should be banned on youtube How the hell he's still he was streaming before I started streaming to 36 000 people I don't know how the hell youtube hasn't banned him yet because the things he has said on his live streams on youtube breaks youtube's terms of service But youtube hasn't touched him yet. Now. I do think youtube is being careful in this situation Um, if I if I had an opportunity to talk to susan wajiski about this I bet you she's trying to tread carefully because this is a child He is technically a minor. He is under the age of 18 He's barely 17 so he was 16 not too long ago and uh, she's trying to tread carefully Because this is a situation with a minor and because it's a situation with a minor She doesn't want to come across as you know Canceling a child over acting like a child Um So youtube's in a very interesting spot with this Uh on one hand he's breaking terms of service and should be banned because of it on the other hand. It's a fucking kid I don't really envy being in youtube's position on this. Um So we have a lot of people on both sides of the equation thinking that he's a he's a dick He's a nasol. He's obviously got an issue with sexism and you know, it's a joke might not be a joke He's got issue of rage. I have no idea could all be an act Um and that he should be banned and then you have the other side That says sounds like typical high school trash talk to me. What's the problem? Uh, if you watch my video today, you already know where I stand on this. Um, I'm I don't forget What online lobbies were like When I was a kid I don't forget because I go in them still once in a while And nothing's changed Um, women are still degraded to a have a to a massive degree anytime There's a female gamer in any sort of online lobby. They're instantly attacked and insulted and some of them take it in stride Because they're used to it. Some of them don't um It's kind of become normalized to them socially normalized in gaming to them So like they've almost become a bit numb to it. That doesn't make it Okay, they shouldn't have to be socially normalized to being talked down to Um, just because of their gender not because of their gameplay but because of their gender um It's a very interesting thing um When you get into the social aspects of this and a lot of debate around, you know Well, this is just normal high school behavior, but then there's should it be normal high school behavior Shouldn't these kids be raised better to not be behaving this way? Do better control themselves in some form like a little bit of rage is understandable You lose a match and you want to say god fucking damn it Like fuck my teammates fucking suck or whatever like that emotional response I get But then going into like Bitch, you can't fucking talk to me because you're a fucking girl Go back to the fucking kitchen. I get it common jokes common tropes common memes The whole go back to the kitchen things existed for fucking decades, but It's just bothers me man like If my kids if I ever caught my kids talking like that. Well online gaming They will not be online gaming anymore pretty simple Oh, you can't take away their system final take away their internet Can't do that that's child abuse go ahead and try arguing to a court taking away a kid's internet as child abuse sorry You treat people with respect or you don't play but they're trash talking be the better person Be the better person No, they shit talk me. I need a shit talk them back No, let them sound like idiots They'll realize it someday that they're acting like dull asses They'll be in their mid 30s wondering why the fuck they're still calling people, you know Names And living off minimum wage Getting those government checks That's obviously a gross mischaracterization. Um, but that's my point like It's just it's dumb It's not right And I wish the culture would change and unfortunately the youth living up to these stereotypes Is what gives gaming a bad reputation I saw someone on our discord server today I saw someone on our discord server today Say something that I found quite fascinating. Um, let me let me grab the discord server. I'm not going to call out this specific person Um, but I want I wanted to read what he said Um Let's see here Something about gamer rage. Okay Getting a basically it's a paraphrase getting angry over a game It's pure passion And it goes on and on we had a little bit of a back and forth. Um about how basically, you know You're most passionate when you're angry And it makes you a better gamer Then obviously, you know, I'm too old and I moved on. I don't understand or whatever the case might be And I find that I find this fascinating at multiple levels because I've been in competitive situations when I've heard it for a whole life. I was a five sport athlete Super competitive. I used to do competitive gaming leagues back in the day Madden in particular I was in professional pro league circuit for that. Um, I know what the competitive juices are like I know how disappointing it is when you lost. I know that that that's sinking feeling and you've got the The the anger that can rise up when you fail When you fall short and especially when you fall short and you don't think it's your fault I get it I get that rising feeling But never once And this I can only speak for myself Has that feeling to me ever made me a better gamer If nothing else being angry typically led to me playing worse the next time around because While anger is a nice release of emotion It doesn't necessarily go away because your last memory of playing that game Is one of negativity and anger Of failure So because of that and because that's festering there because you just lost because every loss that compiles makes you angrier I don't know how that makes you a better gamer I don't know how that makes you more focused. I've always felt When you feel those competitive juices flowing That's when you refocus on the next match. You don't worry about what just happened You go i'm never letting that happen again And i'm gonna go at it even harder next time I'm gonna fix what went wrong last time fix what I can control and do better the next time around That was my thought process I didn't ever once think Well, I better go attack them better go drop some mom jokes I better go tell the the woman to go after the kitchen. I better go do this. I never once thought I'm so angry that I need to attack The other people in the chat To make myself feel better Because i'm blaming others instead of looking at my own gameplay And looking at what I did wrong Now this is just me And I have Decades of experience and I'm not gonna say I've never trash talked But all of the trash talking I've ever done in my life was always to personal friends and always for fun Not out of anger like when Eric and I trash talk each other We're not doing it out of anger. We're doing it because we're poking fun at each other and having fun We're not doing it because we're angry You know So I've been around it. I've experienced it. I've seen it. I just don't know how it makes you better I don't that's my experience and that's the only one I can speak for But I'm also older like I have a big disconnect with the youth because I'm older Oh grandpa, you don't you don't know Dude, I was competitive gaming before you were even fucking born I know what online chat lobbies do. I know what children say I'm not an idiot I've been gaming my whole life I'm competitive gaming competitive sports. You see in competitive sports Come on. I don't tell me how I don't know how it works. I know how it works. It doesn't make it right It wasn't right when I was a kid and it's still not right now Just because it's been something being normalized doesn't mean that something is right to do right Trash talking as a teenager in video games has become normalized Doesn't mean that it's okay to do it if it was normalized For the entirety of the us became legal for us to smoke meth and cut our life short by 30 years If that became socially acceptable, does that make it right? Does that mean you should do it? It's legal now. It's socially acceptable. So why don't we all just smoke in the pipe And cut in our life short Doesn't make it right It be I know it's an extreme situation, but it doesn't make it right, you know Anger help will smith get banned from the oscar for 10 years To these kids on no modern war for two lobbies. Ah Carlos Morales There's a lot of the lobbies today are still just as bad. Has it really uh gotten better unfortunately Um In my whole thought process is anger is a negative feeling. No Look there is a point where anger festers, okay Emotions fester right depression sadness Happiness we usually just freely let out no problem because we're happy it's a positive feeling But when we have that anger and it festers and it festers and it festers Not letting the anger out Can be a problem too But there's healthier ways to let that anger out right go for a run Let that anger out on the road Hit that road hard with your feet as you're running stop around Get a punching bag. Let your anger out on that punching bag Listen weights Okay, that's all work out stuff. Fine. You don't want to work out. Okay, cool. Go scream in a pillow You know punch yourself in the dick if you need to whatever whatever works like We don't need to hurt others To deal with our own anger. This is what i'm trying to say We all get angry. I get angry. I'm a parent of three kids. You think I don't get angry You think I don't get frustrated. You don't think I reach a boiling point So you so you think if I'm angry and I reach a boiling point I should snap on my kids and start calling them a bunch of fucking bitches And just Verbal verbally assaulting my children Well, no, of course everyone thinks that's wrong It's wrong to do it to anybody you shouldn't do it to anybody Not just your own kids Anybody shouldn't happen There are healthier ways to get your anger out without hurting others rare exceptions Certain sports anger can be an advantage in certain sports boxing as an example You might punch a little harder because you're a little bit angrier at that person So there are certain ways that you can channel your anger into your job into your work But those are very specific use cases that don't apply to a vast majority of people Now William brings up a good point too many sensitive people these days I've seen that reiterated a few times today whether it was on my video in my discord server on twitter on other social media platforms tick tock that uh People are too sensitive. No one should care about this and to that I say I'm not angry And I show speed. I'm not mad at him. He's just a kid He's a kid saying and doing stupid shit I'm not gonna be mad about it. He ain't my kid It ain't on me to discipline and raise him Okay, and he To be frank, it ain't my problem till it becomes my problem and he's not in my life. So it's not really my problem So i'm not really upset by it but You know like if he was influencing my kids or something that you know, that could be a problem But he but my kids don't even know who he is. They don't watch him. So um I think there is something to be said um about over sensitivity In in in some situations not like William brings up, you know, i'm 36 and my daughter's 14 and we roast each other I talk about her mom my wife and she talks about my mom and that's fine. You know why that's fine, William Burgos Your family, you know each other. Well, you know, nothing you say Is meant in the way that you say it so if You roast your wife while talking to your daughter and she roasts your mom You both have the understanding That you're not actually meaning any ill intent towards the mothers There's nothing ill intended by what you're saying You're just having fun with your kid This is what I say about Trash talk and I mentioned it Eric and I Will trash talk each other Yulia and I will trash talk each other the difference is We are family. We are friends. We know nothing ill is meant by those remarks There is no ill will in doing it. It's just fun When you're doing it to people you don't know It might not be fun to them and that's Where we have a problem. It's like I tell my kids I don't care if you swear You want to use the f word you want to say fuck you want to say shit. You want to say bitch I don't care Look your kids you guys know all the words. You've heard all the words I don't care I do care is knowing when it's appropriate to use them and when it's not If your friend group uses them when you're talking to each other In normal speech, fine. Don't got a problem with it But I'm never going to see you use those words derogatory towards people that it's not normal with as an example You tell you call me or your mother a fucking bitch There's going to be a problem because that's not how we talk to each other in this house You go up to grandpa and you know Say something really nasty to him That's not what your relationship is with him. There's going to be a problem understanding time In place and who's around you? matters And that's what i'm instilling in my kids. It's not don't do it It's knowing when it's appropriate and who it's appropriate to do it with If you don't have that kind of relationship with the person you're talking to you don't target that Language towards that person It's not because that person's a snowflake. It's because you don't have that sort of relationship with them What's up the 8th art? What's up, buddy? sweating under this hat Thanks so much for the super sticker. I suppose with the dancing controller Um I wonder if any kids will ever watch my streams one day probably not Probably not No, I'm not the kind of content that my kids enjoy. I mean maybe they enjoy my kind of content someday And maybe like when they're older in their mid 20s, maybe they'll tune in, you know, while they're doing homework or something They'll listen to one of my podcasts or something. I don't know that's possible, but I don't think it forgets kids that they're not really into the kind of stuff I make I know the kind of content they watch because I double check it at the end of every day every youtube video everything they've ever loaded All gets recorded In my house Every url they visit and and do and every app they use and everything they do in that app is recorded in my firewall And I check it out every day to make sure I know what the fuck my kids are consuming You know like a tech savvy parent should should know what your kids are doing So, you know, what's influencing them you know So when they come up and they they start using certain languages or acting certain ways You might know why they're doing that rather than just like what's wrong with you stop acting that way You're being weird like okay. Stay up to date on what your kids are doing You don't have to spy on them You don't have to like dig into private messages and crap like my kids I have roblox and they message people on roblox. I don't read their messages on roblox I don't really care what they're saying to their friends on roblox Don't really care You know, they just use their friends devices. I don't have sensors Hmm Good luck with that in my house. Good luck with that in my house So my kids don't know it yet, but I have a cell phone blocker Meaning the only way they'd be able to use that device In my house Is to connect to the internet Yeah, I'll think the kids and then by the way my kids haven't actually borrowed any other anyone else's devices yet, but I'm already thinking ahead. I know what kids do. I was a kid once Because I don't need a cell signal when I'm at home. All my phone calls come through wi-fi so Um Let's see here Gotta always don't smart your kids and there'll be a day that my kids will outsmart me in some way It'll happen. I outsmarted my dad for a while Um, when he banned me from the internet he banned my ip. I found ways around it um, so My kids will probably eventually find a way to outsmart me for a little bit The kid is banned by you from roblox. Yeah, I know I have um So here's the thing I don't know what my children are saying per se. I have played roblox with my kids and been in the groups Um, I have seen some of the stuff that said Uh, I clearly don't think it's appropriate Um, but I just make sure I have the conversations with my kids and kind of vaguely pay attention to how they're Acting like they don't really change how they're acting when I'm on and on on so I don't really worry about it. They basically only play with their friends from school and They go to a catholic school. That doesn't mean their friends don't swear and stuff. They absolutely do um What ends up not being too big of a deal uh, it's um It's always interesting interesting to pay attention to the whole text Uh stuff because that's one thing that's you know harder to monitor is is what's happening in text Without logging on their account and looking at their chat logs and I I'm not going to invade their privacy to that level um but yeah They'd have to be in pretty damn big trouble for me to do that They would they would have to have done something pretty severe For me to decide I'm going through all your chat logs It's happening right now I'm going to let them have a little bit of freedom with that. Um until a problem happens And then we'll see what then we'll see how I react For now, I'm going to leave it alone. Yeah, I might worry about ass my kids know all the curse words They know fuck shit ass cunt bitch Slut, which I guess is is that considered? I don't know if that's a it's a naughty word They know all the swear words. They're not dumb They're not dumb. They hear them out in the world. They hear them at the mall. They hear it with their friends They're not dumb You can't shelter them from that stuff forever, you know You can only only pretty much until they become school age once they get to about second grade and beyond It's pretty much impossible to shelter your kids from that anymore So I worry less about them seeing the words And worry more about them understanding time and place to use the words And that time and place is never in our house Oh, yeah, I totally don't trust other people. No, I hear you William. You you do what you think you have to do for your child I'm not going to tell you how to raise your kids, man You do what you gotta do Everyone's different. Everyone has their own Stuff. I don't you know what you know what's great about that. William Burgos Yeah Asking if their parents are home, right? You know the whole pedophile thing Kind of weird. I don't really leave my house So the answer to that is yes Yes, my dad is home because he's always home. I don't know if my kids are ever here when I'm not here Pretty sure every time they're home. I'm here That's how much of a break I do not get from my children You gotta you gotta do what you gotta do You gotta do what you gotta do. I'm not gonna tell you to raise your kid. You do what you want, man I never tell people how to raise their kids in situation We all we all live in different situations in different neighborhoods in different areas and deal with different things and raised in different cultures And I never will tell someone how to raise their kids I can only tell people what I do and what works for me and what's working so far And if it backfires one day it backfires. I don't know I don't know Where I do know is unlike all of their friends my children will not have cell phones until they have a job And uh It's hard. We have a we have an almost 12 year old daughter Who is not happy. She doesn't have a cell phone and I'm like, I'm sorry You need to prove that you can be responsible enough to have a cell phone and that means Being able to work being able to pay for your cell phone bill Why? Cell phones are a privilege not a right Everybody hit cell phones are a privilege not a right You do not have a right to own a cell phone Someone's got to pay that bill. Why should I have to pay money for something? I don't even want you to have in the first place Oh, but how are you going to communicate with your kid? My kid is always around an adult now Now there might be situations where my kid is not around an adult And what happens in those situations is we give them one of our phones one of our cell phones Fully locked down They can't do anything recall 911 Or hit like a two button combination and call the other cell phone. That's the only options they have They can't get into the phone. The phone is locked down. You have to go through a fingerprint sensor with face id and 12 digit passcode to get on So if they find a way past all that power to them but Like if my daughter goes on a walk with the neighbor, okay, we give her one of our phones And that's the only thing they can do They can call 911 Or they can two button dial The other phone But when they're at school, I don't worry about now. Maybe in high school. We'll see what happens might worry about a bit more in high school but Not worried because my kids are gonna be working at 15 My kids are gonna be working at 15 Or they won't have a phone so they'll be working at 15 Now they can get a phone before then they want to go molons They want to go shovel people's driveways in the winter Hey, they want to find other ways to earn money before they want to get a paper route because you can do that before 15 Be my guests. My kids are more than welcome to do other things I want to try to run a lemonade stand all summer and hope you make enough. Sure Go for it. My kids can come up with other ways to earn money if they want That would constitute work and constitute a job and constitute responsibility But they just want to have fun That's all they really care about Um An air tag in your daughter's keys Yeah One of the things about air tags you could just say she's going somewhere and hide the air tag there and then drive away You got to put air tags where they don't know the air tags are Which what the thing with air tags is it'll alert their phones like if she hasn't if they have an iphone um I don't know. I think it alerts android too. Like that's the air tags aren't as discreet as they used to be you know Which is for a reason because people were using it to stalk people but Yeah, the cost of the cell phone is not the problem. It's the cost of the cell phone plan They're gonna sell them at school If my kids grab my games and sell them at school to buy a phone That phone will be smashed with a hammer Because they attain the phone through stealing consequences for your action You don't get to steal my games And buy a phone You stole something I wouldn't be adverse to calling the police and my kids if they did it just to scare the shardom I'm not kidding If my kids steal my shit and sell it So they can buy something There will be severe consequences I'm gonna get away with that shit. I I will not be adverse to calling the fucking cops on my own kids Not at all Not at all They need To be scared shitless so they don't do it again Now they might think I'm an asshole. Why would my own dad call the cops? I don't know. Why would my own child steal their parents shit? I don't know if you're gonna do dumb shit Don't do dumb shit and I won't call the cops By the way I obviously wouldn't be trying to get my kids arrested or anything. It would just be more about hey, I just want to I just want my kids to understand how serious this whole stealing thing is I'm not actually pressing charges and a lot of the cops will Actually work with you on at least in wisconsin. They'll work with you on that kind of stuff I don't know if they'll do that in other places, but in wisconsin. They'll do kind of a friendly Friendly hey, well, we'll scare your kid to like Let them know the seriousness of what of what they did and and the trouble they Can get in you know Um Just tell your children Um, you have to buy the phone all right not a plan. They still have to have a plan What are you talking about they could buy the phone outright who's who's paying for the phone connection You can own the phone. You still got to pay the 20 to 45 dollars a month to have the phone connected Just buying a phone Only works when you're on wi-fi It's not going to work when they're on the bus or walking around or anything. It's only going to work on wi-fi So it's not it's not the same thing eat primify You would be surprised How willing police officers are to work with you to Teach your kids Right from wrong Because what the police officers don't want to do? They don't want to find out In a couple years that that same child Thought they could steal from the store right The police officers were at rather curb crime early Then have to legitimately arrest someone and put them in jail for it You would be shocked how much cops are willing to work with families that reach out Now you wouldn't call 911 for it. No You would just call the police station directly and ask them about doing it And if they could send an officer out at some point There's one in the area etc. Just to just to have a conversation with my kid about stealing They do it all the time. I've I've seen it done It's really not that big a deal Yep, we had to do it once already Our children had a problem with putting their seatbelt on They refused to put their seatbelt on Not gonna do it So without my kids knowing I got out of the car to go to the bathroom when I called the police station I came back out. They still weren't buckled in. I said, I'm not moving till you buckle in Police car pulled in with his lights on sound of the alarm Walked up told the children to get out of the vehicle Then had a nice stern talking to them About how it's illegal and the bad things that can happen to you and scared the shit out of them And to this day they will be putting seatbelts on every time Don't have to ask them twice anymore. They just do it They get in the car. They immediately put their seatbelts on Police are a lot. Please get a a reputation that's partially earned For doing some really dumb things But it's not always that way not every encounter with police has to be negative You'd be surprised how much police are willing to work with parents Their kids police stations and police chiefs and all that are all very willing to work with parents to help kids Get you know better behavior so they don't become criminals in the future. That's all about crime prevention When it gets to a certain age like if your kid steals something and the worst that happens is they get grounded Okay, that doesn't seem like that bad of a punishment. Let me go steal a tv next time Let me steal money out of a cash register. Let me steal from work steal from like they you know need needs some sort of Experience that when they think about doing something like that they're gonna remind you of oh, shit. I don't want to be arrested I want to go to prison Yeah, please please are more willing to work with parents than I think a lot of people realize um Yep, as Natsui said they'd rather spend 15 minutes helping someone get in the straight in there Yeah, and the thing is it seems like such a minor thing Oh, your kid stole something of yours and sold it for money and bought something with it Like it seems like such a minor thing, but that's the thing You have to make a big deal out of that minor thing So it doesn't escalate to bigger and bigger things like that's That's like it's so easy to dismiss it as such a minor thing But that's when you have to deal with it the best You have to nip My opinion as a parent anyways, you have to nip that stuff in the bud Immediately you don't ignore it until it's too big of a problem and there's no going back If one of my kids steals my games and sells them even if not to buy a phone say they're buying weed say they're buying You know packs of smokes or alcohol whatever the fuck they're buying right they buy something stupid Maybe they buy their own video games. I don't know Yeah, I'm calling the cops Not to arrest my kids But to slap them with a little bit of reality So they understand now. I hope this day never comes by the way. I hope I never have to do it I mean the hope is that you never actually have to do it, but I'm not afraid to do that Not a problem. I know a lot of parents are afraid you know, but At least where I grew up in the situation I grew in and you know, I'm I'm not worried about it It's kind of cool. All right, and think what you want, man It's never cruel to discipline your children in a non You know a non Harming way There's no harm in showing your child the consequence of their action They stole something which is technically breaking the law and I could press charges against them If they did that and they haven't done this, but if they do that They technically broke the law They need to know the consequence for that action or how bad the consequence could be for that action It won't be this time But they need to know It ain't cruel To show your kids reality That's actually one of the parents. I think most important jobs in my opinion is to show your kids reality Not let your kids just think they can do whatever they want They need to be shown there's consequences for actions and the consequences aren't just from you It's not just you grounding them. There are certain actions They do that have repercussions beyond being grounded to your room And they need to know that I hope I never have to do it I hope I never have to do it But you know, I'm I'm prepared and okay if I do, you know um The eighth arc but again, this is just my personal take people don't have to agree with me, you know Everyone's gonna parent in their own ways and and deal with things in their own ways, you know There's no I don't think there's any One way or one correct way like I don't think there's a right and wrong way to raise a kid I mean, I think there's a Clear line in the sand that everyone can agree that this is wrong and that is wrong and this is wrong Like there's some wrong things that we just fundamentally know you shouldn't do to a child or shouldn't raise a child Then in a certain way Hey, don't raise your child to hate people that are in a skin color. Hey Don't raise your child to want to kill people Like intentionally like encouraging Like there's like don't you know freaking Beat your kids, you know into oblivion and beat the fucking shit out of them Don't give your kids alcohol when they're fucking babies because you're tired. I'm crying like there are things you don't do There are obviously clear black and white lines with a lot of things that you don't do to a child But when it comes to raising the child, right, there's a lot of gray And then that gray exists because every child is different and I kid you not You could have 10,000 children in front of you and each one of them Is different and will respond differently to different types of parenting And that's why there's no one way to raise all children It just doesn't exist So And that's what makes it tough raising three kids. That's why I said parenting gets harder the more kids you add to the equation Each one of my kids needs different parenting styles and some of those parenting styles conflict and because of that It creates a lot of issues But then if I ignore and try to go the single style for all kids and be fair That causes even more issues so like Fine balancing after the parent man telling you it's Anyways, you guys got any more questions? Or was I gonna about wrap it up tonight? um My kids are still very vulnerable to what happens to them. I hope so If my kids thought it was okay to steal I hope that they remember and are scared of the police officer showing up I want them to be scared because that means next time they think about stealing They won't do it because they're scared the police are gonna show up There's nothing wrong with being afraid of stealing Because you're gonna get arrested Yeah, you should be afraid of the consequence You should be afraid of the consequences of doing the wrong thing That should be a thing. I I'm not worried about that scarring my kids Oh, no, my parents called the cops because I stole something Yeah, you should be scared To steal it's wrong. Don't do it It should be something you're scared of my opinion um Where did I get that curvy amebo? Oh game stop um I think for them to associate doing something wrong would be an arrested and then possibly going through the anxiety wouldn't be good Yes, it is. Here's why here's why I view here's why I disagree with you e-primify That's the exact consequence of stealing. It's against the law You broke the law If you stole something You broke the law That is the consequence that anxiety you feel You don't want to feel it again. Don't steal That's the lesson if you don't like the anxiety of possibly getting arrested for stealing It's highly unlikely that kid will ever steal again There's nothing wrong with that consequences for actions It's one of the most important fundamentals in my opinion that a parent can teach a child is everything has a consequence If you make bad choices, there are consequences for those bad choices Some of those consequences are more severe than others stealing has a more severe consequence than say Yelling at your parent and back talking you back talk me is not going to be as severe of a consequence as if you stole something That's a bigger deal hence. There's bigger consequences. There's real life consequences to that That can lead to juvenile detention that can lead to jail time That can lead to prison depending on what you're doing felonies There's real consequences and if it creates anxiety because they have to deal with one of those consequences good Good Because you know what happens when people feel anxiety They don't want to do the thing that made them feel anxiety in the first place It makes them less likely to do to repeat the action that makes them feel anxious Because next time they're in a situation where the thought of stealing crosses their mind Anxiety is going to take over and they won't do it. I don't think I don't find that to be a problem I don't I don't find that to be an issue But see here's the thing My kids know that stealing is wrong My kids also know that swearing is wrong doesn't mean they're not going to do it My kids know back talking and not listening to their parents are wrong. They're still going to do it Kids are going to be defiant. They're going to reach an age where they think they know better I know because I was at that age Doesn't always work that way things don't always work the way that you think they do It's a teaching moment if your child steals that is a teaching moment And that teaching moment is showing them the consequences of that action That's the teaching moment That's exactly what I would be doing by calling the cops. I am teaching them what happens if they steal And the officer will make it very clear It's not just about your parents. This is what happens if you steal from anybody anything so Um, and that's fine. You guys raise your parent. You guys raise your kids the way you want my six-year-old steals I'm calling the cops No problem with me That's not like the cops are coming in guns of blazing In fact, officers are actually stupidly smiley and friendly to little kids I mean, it's fine That's just you know, the way most people are with little kids, I guess Because we've had an officer talk to our to our youngest kid before, you know for the seatbelt thing Um, and he was super friendly and super smiley about it But was serious about what could happen If you don't wear a seatbelt So like there was a serious talk followed by smiles and they ended up getting stickers and everything and they've worn their seatbelts ever since It's not like people will have this again a negative association with the police That isn't necessarily true in every aspect of life Police officers if you're calling them for help To help teach your kids Right from wrong They're very friendly about it That like they're about to bust your door down with a gun and scare the living shit out of your kids And tell them about how they're gonna get you know, raped in the ass by picking up the soap bar in prison But that's not what they do They pump the brakes a little the officers aren't there to scare the living daylights out of your kid Yeah, and as Natu said Hey me Like the seatbelt thing My kids still to this day don't know that I called the cops Likewise if my kids stole something they wouldn't know that I called the cops I wouldn't tell them that I called why would I tell my kids? Hey, I called the cops on you. No Nope, you let the kid know that the police officers showed up Because they found out they were an undisclosed source that they were stealing Or whoever the officer approaches officers are a lot more clever and coming up with ideas for it than parents are they they rarely say your mom and dad called me that's not that's not usually how the police officers Approach it so it's very rare the parents end up getting blamed in a lot of those situations And this is I've seen other parents do this and it's it's very rare the kids ever associate the parents with any of it They just end up associating the wrongdoing with it because The parents kind of left out of the equation Like the parent is the one they call the police station But the kid never knows that the parents are the ones I call Yeah, they think they found out through you know school surveillance tapes or you know some other thing, you know If my mom had to change folding laundry correctly and did it with just one mistake There was an immediate slap with a spatula across the face. Ooh Face slapping that's pretty that's pretty rough Face slapping's a little I don't I don't know that I go to the face slapping That's a that's a bit much for me. Oh, yeah, Nancy. You're we have like four police officers that live around me It really be an off-duty copper. It'll it'll be someone who uh Who's already in the area, right? Like they were already in the area. It's not even that big a deal to go out of their way um, you know, they'll they'll show up in uniform with the police vehicle and everything but um Yeah, it's usually never an inconvenience of the police officers at least at least in our area Maybe in like a bigger city it could be you know where like there's not enough police officers in general usually and Um, so I can see how like in a really big city it might be a bit more difficult But I'd still call the local police station and try anyways Um, you know, they might tell you sorry. We just don't have anyone to spare. That's totally fine um, you know But at least in my area Not a big problem But we don't have a lot of crime in my area to begin with like, you know, we have we have our issues here and there You know, it's not like there hasn't been like a shooting ever around here like yeah, there's but there's been a shooting um, there's there's been some drug busts and stuff but uh Relative to like what you deal with in a city. It's nothing Um Do the cops get 20 dollars a visit? Or do they spend more time and get paid more like edgy? What a bad association. Obviously cops are salary employees They don't get paid by the hour Um Okay, so new york city cops. Let's do it. Yeah, I haven't lived in a city. So it was kind of like an assumption now. Maybe You know, maybe they don't have anyone to spare but Um, I don't obviously know. I don't I don't I've never lived in a city I've stayed in a city for a while, but I've never lived in a city and I've obviously never raised kids in the city So You're not your dad's a new york city cop. Nice. Yeah, see I don't have a problem with it But again, everyone's gonna have their own tastes and their own ways. They think parenting should be done Um, I always think that there's a fine balance with parenting um between disciplinary actions and It's it's easy to say Outside looking in like e-prime if I don't know if you raise a kid. So I have no idea Um, if you know what it's like to raise a child because your only experience might be, you know Your upbringing and bad experiences you might have had or good experiences might have had. I don't have no idea. Um But uh My experience as a parent after doing it now for 10 years is sometimes Teaching a kid right from wrong just talking to them Trying to make them understand through talking Doesn't always work Now that's my experience of my kids It doesn't always work It just doesn't Um Not to get too deep into it. Our daughter's had some some real issues Um, not like she's a juvenile like or anything, but she she's got depression and some other stuff going on that Well, you know, we are doing our best to handle and deal with um in every possible way but Her biological dad because she's technically my stepdaughter her biological dad Um For the longest time said I want to handle You know most the disciplining of her actions Um, and I'm just gonna keep talking to her about it and keep trying to make her understand He did this for like a year and a half and she was like nine Just kept talking to her about it kept talking to her about it as her behaviors just kept getting worse And worse and where she never got punished. She wasn't grounded. She didn't have things taken away It was just always a conversation. We're having a conversation. We're having a she understands what I'm saying We're having a conversation. Okay, so then How come if she's understanding what you're saying the behaviors aren't changing She clearly Is either playing on your emotions and telling you what you want to hear Or she doesn't understand Or she just doesn't care because she's not really punished There's no actual consequences for what she's doing Other than what a half hour talk with her biological dad. Okay, and If that's not working Something else needs to be done and what fundamentally changed My daughter's behaviors in some ways. I'm still not perfect But she'll I better than she used to be was once we started giving her real consequences for her actions Um, we got her report card her second court report card this year all of her grades dropped from a's to d's all of her effort level in her classes dropped from a effort to no effort now Obviously initial reaction my parent is shocked. What the fuck happened. Okay, but beyond all of that Beyond all of that, you don't obviously start by just reaming your kid and yelling at them. That's not gonna First thing is why aren't you trying in school anymore? We have it right here on the report card You are not trying in school What happened what changed? Okay, well one of her teachers got subbed up and she misses the old teacher. Okay, we understand that We understand You prefer the way the other teacher did it. You don't like the new teacher. Okay Okay, that's fine But it doesn't matter who your teacher is You need to at least try we don't care if you get a's We would love for you to get a's We only care that you try Like if all your grades were d's but you had a effort level even be effort level We're good with that we can accept it If the best you can do is d's when you're trying We're okay with that. We're not we're not trying to push you like my parents were pushing me all the time to get straight a's No I just care that you try If you try and it doesn't go well That's okay At least you tried but you're not trying And at some point you can't blame a teacher for you choosing not to try And so we gave her a couple weeks to decide to turn it around on her own and she didn't she kept bringing home from school She wasn't doing work We had multiple calls from the school and the teacher and the counselor So eventually we said okay. Well, we tried to get you to understand that you have to do the work So until you decide to turn around your grades You're no longer going to have your tablet. You're no longer going to watch tv You are uh going to be spending most of your day after school in your room You can only come out to play with your brothers outside when we let you Not just when you feel like it And yeah, you're going to be you know Changing the laundry every day when you get home from school period. That's just what it's going to be Otherwise you come home you do your homework go to your room You stay there until dinner time then you stay there until unless there's like a special situation We let you out like say we let you go outside and we have like a trampoline on our backyard Say we let you go outside and jump on the trampoline with your brother or something Um get some physical activity in but Otherwise it's uh, hey, you're not going to get to do these things. Oh, you talked to your friends on your tablet too Bad, you're not gonna have your tablet. Oh, you'd like to watch tv too bad. You don't get to watch tv You don't get to enjoy the luxuries Afforded to you because of the hard work your parents put in When you're not trying at the only thing you're supposed to try at And she stayed grounded for the entire quarter because we had no way to know This new teacher wouldn't communicate with us. So we had no way to know if and when her grades turned around We got her report card So she was grounded for like two and a half months We got her report card on april 1st Her grades turned around her effort level turned around She learned she learned through consequences To work hard at something and so she worked hard at it now she's not grounded She didn't have a scare Because we immediately took her off grounding Two days later she brought back all of her assignments from school and admitted she did nothing in school Here's what was cool about this. Okay. This is this is the fun one So here she said she revert the moment. She was not grounded. She reverted right back to what she was doing before, right? The moment she wasn't going the moment. She got her tablet her tv back not having to stay in her room She got her amazon alexa back to listen to music like the moment. She got all of her privileges back She went back to not doing her schoolwork So she brings home the work I asked her why she didn't do it and the teacher said, well, why didn't you do this assignment? Well, she told me to do that one okay so You didn't get this one done on time So then a new assignment started for a different class but she told you to finish the other assignment But here's my problem with that You didn't even start the other assignment So what were you doing during all this? I just sat there quietly and did nothing Why I just didn't want to do it Okay So why were you doing it before when you were grounded because I didn't want to be grounded? Well, thanks for being honest Just so you know You bring work home like this again And that you did not even attempt to do in school You will be grounded again And here we are now at the end of the week and she did all of her work Consequences work talking isn't always enough Sometimes you need real consequences So now she's trying in school and she's enjoying her life more because of it Now she gets to go this weekend and see her cut baby cousin And have a bunch of fun and be spoiled and do a bunch of fun things out in minnesota And I'm happy that she gets to do that because if she was grounded she wouldn't have been able to so Just an example of where sometimes you have to you have to punish your kids The isolation is traumatizing. It's not like she was that isolated. I'm just gonna be completely honest here And she wasn't that isolated our our our home is too chaotic for her to truly be isolated It's not like she's stuck in there door shut doesn't hear from anybody for hours on end. That's not That's not really how it works Especially her little brother who won't leave her alone. It's not really how it works. She's not truly isolated Between her homework that could take her a half hour to an hour And then she's in her room for like 20 minutes and then it's dinner time And then after that she usually will get to go play for a half hour outside with her brothers Then she's gotta go take a shower and then she has to go back to her room And at that point anyways, it's reading time and getting ready for bed like after school There's not a lot of time anyways, so it's not like there was much of a punishment until the weekends, you know The weekends were basically the biggest punishment and she wouldn't be in her room all day But she wouldn't get to do the fun things she wanted to do So Now she didn't get to go to the skating parks or the my let the boys got to do or You know water park could be the bit indoor water park that the boys got to go to a few weeks ago She didn't get to go So she knew even though the restrictions maybe didn't weren't as strict as we wanted them to be originally she still You know didn't get her stop so I I definitely don't I definitely don't enjoy punishing my kids. I wish I'd never had to punish them I wish they would just like make the right choices on their own Whatever those choices might be and sometimes I don't know what the right choices are But with school I know the right choices to at least try just try I'm not gonna be one of those parents said that expects my kids to get straight A's even if I think they're capable of it I just expect them to try and if as long as they try I'm good, you know I'm good Even if they're not giving like 100 effort if they're just giving like 75 effort. That's fine. As long as you're trying I'm I'm I'm good with it Day in day out no books homework sleep only and I dragged everything. Oh see so when I was a kid William I got grounded 200 for months on it sometimes um, but It was it was obviously no tv no video games Uh, but I was allowed to read books. They they never took away books. They always told me Why would we take away books? Books build the mind and they're a positive. Why would we take away books? So they would they would control books I had to read But that's when I ended up reading the entire Harry Potter series started reading the sort of truth series I actually ended up almost enjoying like I remember the day I got ungrounded They're like, okay, you're you're ungrounded now. You can go outside and play you can go do whatever And I chose to stay in my room for like another couple hours and finish reading the book so like It kind of got me more into reading so it was sort of like a A positive coming out of a negative or like you're gone into your room But because of it I got to get really intimate with books and started really enjoy reading books Um, so that that was kind of new because I would have never did that if I the other option was to play video games All the time I would rather did that but Yeah, and from that point forward I pretty much always read books until probably my mid 20s is probably when I slowed down because I just didn't have time Or I felt like I didn't have time right. I was just too tired Maybe my energy levels died out um No apparent truly knows the right choice I would say we don't know the right choice in some given situations, but I will say Trying in school is pretty much always the right choice At least try I would say that's a pretty safe thing to say is the right choice Outside of obviously morally right and wrong stuff. I mean, obviously we you know, it's easier these days to take the device away You would think so You would think so doesn't always go that easy Sometimes you got to take away everything but It's okay. I want pets. I got pets. We got a dog I wasn't disagreeing with you. That's okay Randolph is on a seven or eight and my parents took away my pet rights In other words, I wasn't allowed to hang out with my pets for a few days and stuck to the rules from then on That's a good one I think if she went to her other dads like her like she she's got a dog and her other dads We have a dog here, but she loves the dog and her other dads are way more Like I don't even know she gives a shit about the dog here to be honest. Um I mean, she's addicted to that dog, right? I think that would be and I told Her her biological dad that that would be a good punishment sometime to like hey Maybe if she's you know doing the school thing or someone like maybe she just doesn't get to hang out with her dog that day You know like have cookie stay with us for for that day, you know You can bring cookie to our house leave cookie here take her over there and she doesn't get to hang out with with her dog cookie But uh, he he didn't really go for that Well, I wish he would have because I I really think that that's something she cares about so much that that really would be a A a good punishment in certain situations, but It's all right For now the the whole grounding her for you know a couple of months there where she was pretty restricted on what she could do um ended up working for her school work, so And the fact that she immediately went to not doing it and then I reminded her that we will ground you again and That stopped like that the moment she was reminded She didn't think at the time that she wasn't doing her school work about the grounding The moment she was reminded that she will be grounded again Oh, shit. I'm doing my school work now. Sorry. She literally apologized and and got to work So like Clearly it's one of those at the time She wasn't thinking about it, but now that she was reminded what the consequence was. Oh, yeah No, no, no, no. I'm doing my school work and then Every friday they bring all their schoolwork home and she got a's on all of her assignments this week, so When it works it works, you know And again, I don't expect her to get a's but she did I know she can get a's in all of her in all of her classes, but um Honor roll results Isn't that funny? Yeah, you got to find them like for my my my middle child taking away the tablets the biggest punishment Uh for melody at probably the pet We had to do it without the pet thing, but probably the pet um For our youngest it's taken away outside time He loves playing outside You take that away You don't like that Yes, she does have something psychologically going on e-primify. It's called depression I The the thing that makes me uncomfortable in these conversations are Are are when people talk about my kids as if or talk about my my parents, you know My kids as if they know everything that's going on because I shared little minute fractions of things happening in my house Because if I don't talk to my kids as if I don't figure this stuff out as if she's not in therapy It's if she's you know, she's actually on depression meds um There's a lot That I don't talk about with my kids because they're my kids and they don't need to be In the public eye with this stuff, you know um Where's really broken was your dad and I got in a physical fight I was 19 at the time It was very I mean if you're 19 It makes me think of a moment with my dad. We didn't really get in a fight My dad did fall down though, but it wasn't really a fight This happened like this last winter. Oh, it wasn't a fight like not a physical fight. We had a a disagreement um Not with the kids. It was something with my dog. We had a big disagreement about with my dog around family time um and uh My dad just won't let it go and he showed up at my house and stormed in and I'm like, oh my god, dad Please get out of my house So I kind of gave him like this light shove Like please leave my house Okay, dad We're not gonna get along right now. We both need to calm down. Please get out of my house It was a mistake for you to come over here Unless you were gonna come over here with a positive attitude starting with an apology Maybe you would have got me to apologize and things would have been fine But unfortunately you came over here to try to prove yourself right That's not how you handle these situations I know because I have a fiance Who sometimes likes to pick my pick the bones a little it's not how you handle it I handle this poorly. You did please leave my house. This is just escalating and I don't like it Anyone so I kind of give him a little just a little light shove like this and He decided that nope I'm gonna grab on to the side of your house and I'm gonna like just push back with all of his might like I was significantly shoving him and I barely touched him and when he did that he lost his balance and fell Over and I'm like My dad just had knee replacement surgery. So I don't know wasn't Wasn't a smart move on his part but He left after that We talked later. We taught the next day when when things were calm down, but it was one of those You know, I walked away from his house During, you know, it was it was on Thanksgiving and I walked away for a reason It's like I'm not here to argue. I'm not here to fight. I'm let's just it's whatever enjoy Thanksgiving I'll be back later to pick up the kids Um I'm all right and it's gonna reconnect. How are you? Oh depression can lead to horrible things. Uh her mother has severe depression. I I don't want to say that I I always tell people I had depression. I don't know that depression never leaves Um, but I'm definitely not anywhere near where I used to be I'm not on medication anymore or in therapy. I was in therapy for 18 years. Um But I'm not about like I'm my mind's in a good place Doesn't mean the dark thoughts don't come doesn't mean that I don't You know still get the tinge of What I used to feel like on the daily it's just I think I've gotten about as good as you probably can get you know I've gotten to the point where I can mostly control it and that That's awesome. It also proves that some people can get to that. I don't know if everybody can My fiance hasn't gotten to that point, but some people can Thankfully I did because my god if you and I were both still I'm talking about parenting me and hard. No, I'll have parenting me hard with both parents under press Um, I want to start with you. What the hell? Yeah, I hear stupid notifications Yeah, because it's like a mental thing. That's why I said thark. I'm not sure that there's that I'm cured I just can handle it a lot better, you know I still have my therapist on my speed dial if I ever I think I chatted with her once last year Like I don't I don't really It's not really something that I think about or concern myself with but it the the the darkness, you know of it is You can feel it in there, you know Obviously especially when things get the most stressful in life, you know when parenting gets the most stressful or if Like yesterday, there was a small little strain between me and julia Um, that we were both stressed out over completely different things And so we had our our first little it wasn't even like a big fight or anything We had our first little disagreement spat in like five years. It's so rare with us Um, and you could just I could just feel the cloud rolling um And uh, you know That wasn't good Um, but I did I did I did stop it from taking over like it used to used to just take over um One I took an edible Uh, so there was that but but it wasn't it wasn't just that I took the edible. It was more of a finding My center, you know, I meditated a little Uh, then I played a game Uh, then I played with my kids Something that I knew my kids but like playing catch outside something something I knew my kids always enjoy doing It doesn't cause fights or drama um And then slowly the cloud sort of started rolling back now. Maybe that was the weed kicking in I don't know, but uh slowly the cloud started We're sending back and and that was fine. Um Honestly, I've just seen a tender prime. Yeah, thark. You've been here a long time I I in thark we know he like just seen my behavior at the channel, you know You can tell I've come a long way even from like two years ago even Yeah, about two years ago was right when I was at the edge of being really bad and then I feel like it started turning around around then Maybe maybe nothing's changed I don't know. I'm not the one consuming my content Um weed has not been decriminalized across America. No A majority of the states it is legal in some form either for medicinal or recreational Um, but it's not legal in every state Technically it's not legal in my state. I do buy it legally But I don't buy it in my state I drive a pretty long ways to buy it legally But then I illegally bring it into the state. So, you know what at my mitten? This is the police want to show up at my door and confiscate it and arrest me before I go for it But it's not really even for me. It's it's for Julia. Uh, basically Her her doctor, um Asked if we had tried it like ever and And she she you know, she's try-pop before but like She said no, no, no, no, I mean like eating it and and doing the certain type in this case sativa They asked if she had tried it and uh, the answer was Uh, no, she had never tried that specific strain and she had never done it as an edible Um And that I said, well, it's not legal for me to medically prescribe it to you but You can legally buy some in michigan Um, so Basically, I make I make a trip once every five months Well, it's going to be a bit more often now because michigan's limited how much you can buy it once It's probably going to be once every three months now, but um, she basically just about buy her some gummies And uh, it seems to be working really well for her Her mind has become a lot clearer The cloud Is being controlled a lot better than any of the other medications. She's tried So many different medications and basically had next to no results And this is the first time that it's actually like actually rolling back the clouds so By the way, this isn't me saying that that works for everybody. It certainly doesn't But the doctor did suggest that hey, you know, go give it a try so Weed's not a legal everywhere. We lived in michigan What'd be a problem? What'd be a problem? Yeah, and that's the thing about steven. We didn't want to we didn't want to be tired or she didn't want her to be more tired Tired enough from depression don't need more tired Um, they want to be lazy They didn't want to necessarily be eating the whole house. So like yeah She gets aware that she's hungry because she doesn't eat much, but she doesn't like suddenly. Oh my god Let me pig out and have a no she just has a little bit to eat and she's good Yeah, cbd is legal in moscas and CBD basically doesn't do shit Well, it's not for what yulia needs it for cbd doesn't do anything Oh my depression take take over me. That's what I'd be known for and I don't want that Yeah, the the big thing with yulia was um How it was affecting How she behaved around the children You know, that was the big thing that made her be like, let's take this serious because like, you know You get the depression hit you get the sadness you get the extreme anger and and and she just didn't wanted her Her kids to suffer for it, you know So as one of those we've been trying for a long time and just turns out that Apparently that was the answer this whole time. It just it wasn't legal in our state Um, we're hoping there there's some legislation um There's some legislation that's probably going to get passed sometime in the next five years That I won't have to drive like four hours And or worry about, you know as i'm driving back. Am I going to get pulled over and arrested for caring but It's a risk i'm willing to take to to make uh Yulia better mentally To help her be better mentally so and it's so awesome because I'm it's not like it's making her different That's what's crazy about it. She's not actually acting any different than what she used to be like Before the kid stress piled on top. So like she had kids And so she already had some depression and then she got postpartum depression Which made her original depression even worse and then the postpartum never left um And that can happen Postpartum depression is a thing on its own let alone if you already have depression it can be even worse and It got worse and it didn't go away, but I knew before that happened. I knew her and we were dating and um basically she's just back to to Behaving and acting like she did before she got postpartum Which is awesome. It's it's basically like I got my I got my fiance back from the cloud I got her back from the darkness and and that's It's awesome to see that it's still there underneath it right like underneath the cloud. She's still there. She's still there When it's not dominating her life The real yule is still underneath. So it's awesome so Yeah, charles throughout that's what I said. That's why I said I'm not promoting this is oh you have depression Go smoke some weed no She doesn't smoke it either smoking it does not it's not as effective anyways, but Changes the chemical makeup a little but the thing is um That's not what I'm I'm I just like with any depression man. I wouldn't tell you hey this worked for her so it worked for you like no Doesn't work You know it was one of those hey, you know what there's been trials It's it's known that it can help But only in some cases and after all the stuff we had tried that's that actually hey, you know just I give you a medical prescription if you could still not legal here to do that so You can move or you could just take the risk and just go buy it legally and call it a day and we just said screw We'll take the risk So it all worked out it all worked out in the end so far It's it's been about a year and a half now. It's all work. It's all worked out. So keep it going Um I'm sorry dealing with depression is talking about it sometimes I mean the first thing's admitting you have it being willing to talk about it, but it doesn't necessarily Make it better again. That's the problem with depression like just just mental health in general the problem with mental health um, and this is just From my experiences. I I can't talk about your guys's experience. I go talk about mine and my fiance's and my family um Because my I know my mother has depression as well. She's she's um, you know in therapy and treatment She's been in therapy and treatment for 30 years for it. Um The the big thing about this stuff and I think my sister has it too. Well, she doesn't talk to me much about it But I'm pretty sure she has it too Uh, the the the big thing in in in in dealing with this is Every person who has it is different. What will work for them the type of therapy will work the type of medicine that Potentially could out because sometimes there'll be no medicine that can help. Um, so the type of therapy the type of medicine um Talking about it for some people talking about it can make it worse for some people talking about it can make it better Or how you talk about it or the way you talk about it Sometimes being able to learn to compartmentalize and like put it in a box and bury it works like there's It's all about learning how to manage it and unfortunately there's not like a one size fits all way to do it Um, that's just the unfortunate truth So because of that, that's why there's no like cure. There's also no one Size fits all solution therapy or medication or a combination of both. There's no one size fits all um, so like If you have depression and being willing to talk about it really helps you that's great Doesn't help everybody though Um And I try that that's what I say with like you okay We tried a bunch of things therapy a whole bunch of stuff and it just turned out that the best thing that actually helped ended up being sativa animals For now first time in you know eight years That that we we found something that actually has helped Um, that's just medication wise like just talking about it like like all these different therapies like we finally found something That actually makes a difference um So it's it's just it's different for everyone, you know It's different for everyone. I think the most important thing this this is one thing I will say about about depression The most important thing and this is the hardest thing to do When you have depression Especially if you've tried if you've admitted you have depression you've gone to therapy you've tried multiple therapists You've done a bunch of medications like you only had she was getting sick and tired of the medications Because they just weren't working Um, and it gets old where you get that hope and then you know a couple months pass and Your hopes crushed didn't work didn't do anything or or you got the negative side effects, but none of the benefits um Like the hardest thing Is not giving up I'm believing it can be better And I remember for myself 18 years of therapy a bunch of medications. I didn't think it was ever gonna get better No, no, I don't know if it was the car accident that I got in and smacking my head I don't know if it was the heart attack I don't know what it was But eventually something clicked in the therapy session and since then I've been Mostly in control as in control as I think you possibly can be And I I think about that with julia and I keep telling her hey look I'm a little bit older than you you haven't been attempting to deal with it You might have had depression longer or I've had worse depression than me longer, but but You didn't attempt to deal with it until about eight years ago I haven't attempted to deal with it for a lot longer than that And I know how easy it is to give up and I know the many times I tried to give up And the people that wouldn't let me Um I know how hard that is So I kept telling her I know You're getting your hope up on the next medication or the next therapy session or the next therapist or the next doctor Or the next this or the next that or the next conversation we have Or the next fun thing we do or that we're like you always get all these hopes and then it all comes crumbling down and it's really hard to keep trying Um, she didn't think this was gonna work Even to this day She sometimes will be like I don't want to take it because I think it's changing me And then she doesn't take it and then the cloud just rolls over and starts to control in her and she's like Oh, shit. I don't want to feel like this I don't know. Okay. Give me give me my give me my gummy. Holy crap Because she's got a fear because her sister Her sister got into drugs and started with weed and advanced to crack and other things so like and she's basically destroyed her life And she's afraid of going down that route and I keep having a reminder that the doctor suggested this and Clarified with you many many times that doing this isn't going to make you want to do crack Isn't going to make you want to do meth or anything. It's not a gateway drug It only got classified as that for a while because it was illegal So the only way you got it was to go to people who were also dealing these other things That you didn't make more money on so of course they're going to try to get you hooked on it They laced the weed blah blah blah. So like Yeah, it was getting her to understand, you know that she doesn't have to be afraid of it And she still has that an eight like I'm worried. I'm worried been a year and a half and I'm not gonna worry about but You know life experiences tell her oh man. I gotta be afraid. I have addictive personality You know But that's the hardest thing with depression At least in my opinion You know for my experiences The epilepsy and depression stress that concerns me getting into a relationship because How can I really support a family? That's just me. Well for starters, you shouldn't be supporting the family on your own It should be a joint venture It starts with that it starts with reminding that the point of being in a relationship and having a family Is you're not alone You're not what we're past the days that the man is the provider. No It's equal partners As an example, I make more money than Yulia. But if Yulia didn't have her job We wouldn't be able to do things like going on the cruise like there'd be things we wouldn't be able to do if she didn't work So while I might take more of the financial burden She takes burdens in other ways. She maintains the house more than I do as an example Even though she also works full-time So like there's like a balance there, you know, because I end up working more than her because I also have the youtube thing in addition so like um Good night, Charles. How the heck do you even know if you have depression? You can be diagnosed. There's a scale for it Um At least I think there's a scale for it. God. I got diagnosed so long ago Pretty sure there's a scale for it Um, but yeah, they they they can test you for it. Um through a psyche valve um And it does a pretty good job determining if you actually have it or not and there's like Different types of depression like clinical depression Uh, god, I can't remember all the types now. Um, anyways It's it's been a while since I I was looking at that stuff But uh, because I we had to look at it for our daughter and and try to figure out stuff with that Uh, but yeah, like that's how we found out our daughter had it because she she got we we couldn't figure out What was going on with her behavior? Um, so we got her Because we're not one of those parents that that's going to think oh, there's nothing wrong with our kid like Some parents are so afraid to admit their kids need help. Um, there's nothing wrong with my kid Like yulia's adoptive parents Did not believe in modern medicine did not believe that there was anything wrong with their kids Yulia should have had help a lot sooner, but you know, that's what happens. Um, we're not afraid to admit that our kids might need help so if we Recognize things and behavior patterns. We're like, okay, let's take you in. Let's get you evaluated Let's see what's going on and it was like instant evaluation that our daughter had depression Like it wasn't even like oh, she might have no no she had Well, it was kind of scary when when we saw the results of the evaluate we're like, holy shit Man, we're really glad we didn't ignore this Um Your phone's gonna dead. All right. Good night. Yeah, I'm gonna go too. It's almost midnight. Anyways, so you guys are awesome Thank you so much for tuning in. Thank you for all the support and everything you guys have been amazing as always Hopefully you enjoyed the live stream. They have a lot of really in-depth conversations today from ign to that speed dude to Depression never know where the night's gonna take you right? All right guys. Have a good rest of your weekend