 So we're here at the IP500 Alliance and who are you? I'm the chairman of the Alliance and the CEO. I'm acting as operational body here in out of Berlin. Our headquarters is in Berlin located and our OEMs, basically our members are international huge organizations. So what is IP500 wireless network? What's going on here? Is this for the Internet of Things? Yes, we basically started about seven years ago by discovering that there is a missing spot that we discovered that the top down situation is not basically met by bottom up solutions. That means we have bought existing products, I don't want to call names, but modules which are basically not interoperable with each other. So we basically found out that if you go top down and make a product from the application point of view, then we can basically meet the interoperability of this building for instance. Interoperability of wireless networks, is that it? Yes, basically we are talking about wireless networks. Which kind of wireless is it? Wi-Fi? We are talking about here the smoke detectors for instance and the most important part is this kind of detectors, smoke detectors, wearables. We have basically also kind of only simple products which go into a door like for instance. And you have to understand that all of them have to basically work with each other. Like a smoke detector with a mobile device or with a door lock, which I don't have but that could be also put in a door lock. So basically the problem was in the last days or in the last years that we basically discovered that the interoperability has to be put on from top down approach. So you have to understand the applications from a building if we may go here. You have to understand the applications from a gateway point of view, smoke detector point of view, maybe a smart grid point of view because all the requirements are different. So we started as again top down approach saying what do we need? What do we actually have to meet? Instead of making a product like a wireless sensor and install it at the end of the day you have discovered that this, let me say, heating system is not working with a smoke detector because there are missing pieces. So it says here wireless mesh networks for security applications but so is this Wi-Fi or Bluetooth? Is it something else? That's a good question. Wi-Fi is for high data rate as we know, right? High data rate are basically for video, for data communications like for PCs but smoke detectors have different requirements. There are norms, regulations in Europe, worldwide, UL is a name, VDS is a name, is a regulation, UN regulations are very critical for such a product. So wireless mesh networking communication needs to meet all of that requirements. So we are talking about light systems, we are talking about smoke detection systems and we are talking about different kind of heating systems. And IB500 has met all of them together in a single spec and then have asked suppliers like Chronetics, like we see Chronetics here. They actually are the supplier of our module which you see here. It's basically the module, it's an IB500 module, this is the result and that's basically an access point kind of, right? It's a development kit which basically makes the connectivity to the individual products. So what you have seen here is kind of a gateway here. We can also connect that to the GPRS world and that requires of course connectivity from the GPRS world into the IB500 which you basically see one of the examples here. So you are talking about sub gigahertz, is that what it is? Is it like the white space area or something like that? No, sub gigahertz is basically the 8680915 band. From worldwide perspective point of view this is 720 something like that to 980 because definitely countries have different basically frequency bands. So is that licensed or unlicensed? Unlicensed, ISM band. That was what was the TV before? The part was of the TV before but we took the already existent ISM bands which is basically 868 in Europe and 915 in US for instance and for instance in Japan it's 920. So we put all of that into our specification as we said. From the wireless point of view we have taken IPv6 protocols which basically gives you the ability to give every single device internet of things a address, a unique address. We took on top of that also protocol stacks, protocols like backnet over IP so we put all this together and basically when you see here that in a diagram that that's basically the fall chain here. This is the OC layer and you see we go far from to the top from the physical layer over the transport layer to the protocol layer which basically is the IP500 solution and that's basically here you see this is basically the hardware and that's basically the diagram of the entire thing. So is the IP500 Alliance.org how many people are using it right now? We have the major players like Honeywell, Tyco, Siemens, Bosch, UTC you name it from the building automation and basically what is really interesting this hall for instance this is hall is our target marketplace. In the old days or in the previous days and even today you can see a lot of Alliance like the ZIPI Alliance like the Thread Alliance like Z-Wave they are basically focused on home. We basically address that building here because that building has a different character. Here is we are talking about ten thousands of sensors not only hundreds or even ten we are talking about ten thousands of sensors so all the major players again as I said Dorma for instance or our big Schindler the elevator guys are members of us in our Alliance and they are basically deploying our products into their systems. So does that mean that all the products are using this frequency system right now? I would wish that all of them will use it at once but step by step that's the secret here. Some of them are using it today and some of them are building that in future. What we are doing now is smart cities we are organizing smart cities and smart facilities so basically what we are doing is we are integrating that module into the products going into a live showcase or into live projects where we demonstrate the interoperability between for instance a motion detector as I said the smoke detector and for instance a mobile detector. So all of that is happening right now and we are deploying that into the smart city projects. Internet of Things is a crazy big industry and a lot of things are happening right now. So is this going to be the whole world that's going to be using this? Well you know I would say yes. Why? Because you have to start with the highest performance or most critical devices. As I said if you go with a truck from North Germany to South Germany or from North Japan or England to South England you have to be careful of the lowest bridges. So the lowest bridges in our world are the security safety devices. So we understand that we and we are the only alliance supplying this module into such a product which basically gives you the chance to interoperate with our solution. That means security, physical security is the top issue and topic in this IoT. And believe it or not if you look around there is none other alliance which supplies a product again a module which can be deployed and built into a smoke detector and likewise in a door for instance. Is the threat alliance incompatible with what you're doing? Is it a different thing or could be the same? The threat alliance is basically first of all focused on home. It's 2.4 GHz. 2.4 GHz is not going to work in this hall. Again I'm putting home in one basket and commercial building in another. But what we can do with sub GHz applications and sub GHz communication we basically can go from a commercial building into a home. So with threat alliance we have, we are using the same mechanism by the way. Six low pan. Six low pan. Six low pan is also mashing, asynchronous mashing. We do share of course some of the application which we use here and we do share some of the IEEE. However they are using as I said 2.4 and we are sub GHz and we have the dual band. This is basically the newest product which we released by Cornetics again. These are our suppliers. This is the world first dual band for security application in the IoT world. So basically that's the product you see here which basically addresses both bands. Does it use an ARM processor? How does it work? Well ARM processors almost are everywhere. When you see in microcontrollers we do use microcontrollers and yes we can use and we do use ARM processors. Alright and so people to use this they have to buy the hardware they have to just join the alliance. Well how does it work? Is there a price or how does it work? Yeah sure. Well we kind of also protect our business model to make interoperability work. How you do this is you create an alliance. You join as a member as a member. You pay 8,000 euros per year by the way. That's just a fee that feeds our alliance by the way. It's basically the money to operate the alliance and then you are able to access all the documents all the hardware and work with our suppliers on building your products. And you can also use any other supplier. You can use any hardware maker or how does it work? Yeah well first of all we choose we have let me start with that we have chosen basically Kinetics, Atmel for instance we have chosen EBV to Thrainland as a supplier as a provider of services and of products and in about one or two years from now we're going to open that to our partners because we again our most precious core issue is interoperability and you secure that interoperability by making that alliance work in a fashion that you have your partner set you have your specifications set and then you go with the first product into the market and expand that into other applications. So security is that a lot of encryption and provisioning or what's the trick for making sure the building isn't taking over by somebody else? Yeah that's basically what you said. It's a three layer security issue. When you go here we have security in the hardware in the physical layer by mechanism we built in we have security by ISA 120 and we have security also at the application layer we have built in because we are using several protocol stacks which are making security work. So basically you have security at all three layers in our application. So is it 100% secure? 100% secure because it's a matter of time as we all know everybody can hack all devices. But then you update them remotely? Yes again we have different mechanism if you want to break into a house you need time also right. So I think our system and I believe and we have tested that is pretty much secure that you cannot actually really break into this kind of network within a certain time. Alright.