 Big shit. It's a unique hustle nigga. Big shit. Big shit. Big shit. Name another podcast like this Check it. Check it. Check it. This is you didn't come since you bought e ceo and I'm here with the lovely amazing mr. Mako Walk on. Hey, what's going on this morning? Not nothing best Bless to be here to see another day man. It's good to uh Be able to wake up on this side Check it man. Hey man. We got a special Yes today, he really don't need no introduction, man. This guy right here is a a guy who knows his Knows everything about it coming out of poverty Being a guy that knows uh entrepreneurship Is it jameelson? jameelson jameelson pierre Oh jameel. Yeah, louis louis jameelson pierre louis senior Yes, yeah. Yeah. Yeah speaking to the mic. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get it going. Yeah This is jameelson pierre louis. They call me dr pierre Dr pierre. Yes. Wow Um, so man, how did you how just just going back a little bit? We always go back Just give us a little background of who you are. Where you from? I mean, what brought you uh into the limelight Oh, well, thank you. Well, uh, originally i'm from haiti I came to miami when I was 11 years old And I graduated miami kerosity high school where I grew up Everything that you would hear recross talk about and uh, also the trick daddy as well Okay, trick daddy as well. Yes. So when you say you say this this high school is pretty popular Right in the miami area. It's uh, all of those guys, uh, they were there when I was going up Yeah, yeah, so that high school is one of the one of the and this is in in in miami miami kerosity So you went to school with these guys or they just talk about the high school I went to school to miami kerosity. They grew up in miami as well Okay, so have you ever met those guys ever ran into them? Well in 183rd street the famous miami garden I've met all of those guys. Whoa, that's dope, man That's a good thing that they'll be connected with the uh with with people of that stature because of the Monetarily gain and just being able to speak that language a lot of time people don't look at that but the whole hip-hop industry is about uh It's more about just, um Entrepreneurship if you really look at it, we put a little other stuff in it, but it's definitely entrepreneurship That is absolutely correct. Yeah. So I want to just uh, but growing up. I mean, what type of uh, um Upbringing did you have being that you came you you came from another country? Yes. Well imagine, uh, raising In the worst ghetto there is Where you did not even know that you were in the ghetto as a matter of fact Part of it that you were you were thinking that you uh, you were affluence Now imagine growing up in miami kerosity liberty city ghetto Now to most people in the suburban that is ghetto, but coming here in america. That was actually luxury where Based on from where I was coming from So we're going up and in in the ghetto There's a lot of things that you actually learn that prepare you for the business world What's the name of the um area in Haiti that you grew up in? I grew up in, uh, Port-au-Prince Haiti Calf and right now it's it's one of those places that you can't even Walk up because of the kidnapping and the killing that's going on over there How far is that from the tourist areas? Actually, it's in the heart of the tourist areas in the capital really Yes, okay, because I know people still traveling to Haiti for tourism, right? Not right now most people uh going there to see family members, but right now it's pretty bad pretty bad pretty bad Wow, I mean, uh, how does that mentally it has to be draining to see a place that you grew up in? Go through so much. You know what I mean? Well psychologically it's it's really tough, but at the same time it's a benefit The the thing is when you grow up in poverty And uh, you are Hungry for success you becoming more hungry than most people because you don't have anything You have no way but to go up now when you have any little opportunity that's given to you You actually take it and you take every single second of that opportunity to drive yourself out of it Were you raised um a single child or you have brothers and sisters? I have brothers and sisters my mother died when I was one years old I'm giving birth to a younger brother Imagine my father left four children when I was two years old in Haiti and came to America and um Decided to bring my state mom who which was with us and left us with family members Imagine your father working almost 18 hours a day sending money to take care of you But all the other family members take that money where you experience poverty Where you shouldn't even have to So they take that money to buy land and do some other stuff where you really Goes to days where you don't eat for two three days Wow, and so you were the second to last child. I'm the third child So for your father so your mom had all the children before she passed away my father Uh have seven my mom had one older brother uh before she passed away. Okay, so you have a huge family Yes, uh, he has eight but one pass which is the child that right? Wow, that's that's something man imagine how long did you have to go through that before you was able to try to fend for yourself Well, I had to go through that till I was about 11 years old and when I came to America back in uh 1988 it's uh It was like a relief to to be able to fill deliverance And when you came did your father file for all of the kids and all of you came or just yes all four of us came at the same time Yes, okay, and how was it? When you first arrived, what's the difference? How did you feel? How? How well did you fit in? What they they arrived. What's the difference? How did you feel? How? How well did you fit in? Well, the the the interesting thing is imagine drinking Water that you thought that was clean And which you call it dirty water But here one of the first experiences when we drank the clean water here. We really got sick Because our system not used to it not used to it and uh coming here We we flew from an american airline and we we really thought that Every fantasy thing that you were watching and television from people having access to the refrigerator To most people they grow up here with that but that was a luxury because in Haiti for you To actually uh have cold water if you didn't have refrigerator in your house You would literally have to put it outside And that's would be how you get your cold water And that's the reason why a lot of people cook fresh food every day because you don't have a refrigerator to preserve the food Mmm, man, I I tell you man. Like I said, I can only imagine because of what you guys Um, how you guys came up, uh in a situation like that. I'm being a country boy I can relate somewhat though. So I get it, you know, um, but I think that what don't kill you make you stronger Absolutely So at the end of the day everything that god has for you is coming to you You know, it's one of the foundation of my success driven to overcome poverty it's it's one of those success stories that You did not have anything The only thing that you really have is god And having god in you and a belief in yourself what you can accomplish It's it's something that only god can install that in you Man, I can so much relate, you know, like a lot of times people look at you and and they judge you from your past And when you when you've experienced life and god has Let you see some things in life when you're not just in hate hatey Or if you're not just in the country and then you end up going different places and then, you know Your eyes are open to where To god when you first when I first found out who god was Um, I read a scripture that said if any man be in christ he a new creature Old things are passed away behold all things become new So I felt like with that passage I could be somebody new I didn't have to be who I used to be and I think a lot of times Those are the things that I hold on to when I see myself drifting and falling back into situations where one may You know judge me or one may or I may be misjudging myself Is that because of who I believe in I'm able to latch into starting all over again Most people can't understand that level. See this is this is what you say is so powerful Most people do not realize that you have 86,400 second in a day if you utilize Every one of those second I guarantee you in 48 months you will be a multimillionaire Provided that you invest in the right things A lot of time you will see people spending time. They don't understand time is like an investment So if you invest three hours and studying following people who actually doing things to bring it to the forefront You actually learn something that it took somebody 20 years to go over majority of our media are brainwashing our people Because by them consuming information, they don't have a way of making all the decision They're not realizing from a computer science perspective. I have a PhD in information technology and business administration Your mind is like a database when you have to make decision Is the input that you take in that you're going to have to use to analyze it depending on the situation that you are in Majority of our people and what we call the ghetto They have more capability to become more successful than someone that was born with success in their life Especially if they didn't have to work for it. They don't have the same drive within them to accomplish those things So when you are hungry for success, I I always tell everybody Imagine close your nose in your mouth Imagine that you want to breathe it In a lot of people I'm looking at it even for my for my children I have four children a twins two beautiful girls 24 gonna be 25 years old I'm looking at the struggle that I went through How Some of them are so appreciative of what they further went through Most kids sometimes they do not take the path where if you work hard for them They do not take the path where to say look I want to do something different The truth is you're supposed to be a thousand time better than your father or your mother Sometime it doesn't always end up that way but success Is something that you have to work at it every single day. It becomes a habit I'm 44 years old And I could tell you if you put me in any country With the practice and the principle that I have on my book I will become successful again if you take everything away from me The only thing you should not make a mistake is giving me an opportunity to start over Because I will do it a thousand time better Because it's the drive the god and you most people Are not able to tap and the power of god that's in them That's the reason why in this book where I am when I'm talking about god when you come in from Haiti You have all this what they call familiar spirit. That's affecting you My first children their mom Is jomegan and um she from kinston jomegan. She was abandoned by her father So that's mean that you have this abandoned spirit That's working from her side plus you have this abandoned spirit that's working from my side Because my mom died when I was two years old. That's great So when you take those two folks coming in together You have shyness You have all the things that that the kids end up inherit now It's going to be up to you as a parent If you acknowledge that for you to empower them to tap into themselves every single day and nothing for them Not to face setback. I I agree with you 100 percent. Um, I I look at it again. I go back to that same scripture I'm teaching my children and and and showing them different things in the word of god trying to get them to understand You know Who god is that's the most essential thing Because if you can teach them this then they understand the blueprint of life and what the word of god does is it Triculates through all the different people's life whether it was joseph whether it was john whether it was moses Whether it was joshua no matter who it was it gives you an opportunity to look at other people's life Some of their successes some of their failures and then you're able to tap into that And then it exercises the strengthening in you Yes And that's the whole game of why people read and why people try to educate themselves But also have a spiritual connection to god and I think that's very important Having a spiritual connection to god is extremely important And I think that is one of my key foundation In uh 2018 My Range Rover wasn't an accident It was almost uh, and it it an explosion this guy that fell asleep I was out of conscience for about 45 seconds and I heard something in me He said what would you do with your second chance? I say I want to help a thousand people To a million people become financially successful. I said then god, you could take me And then suddenly I wake up I got out of the the Range Rover pulled my wife out And then by the time we pulled back it explode I have everything in camera the fire department right there in miss kid because I had a wrench and and Kaufman What that was doing is that when we went to the hospital And Kaufman My temperature was like what they call it uh stroke level the highest But I was talking to the doctor just like you and me right now They bought all the doctors in to look at my reading and how I'm talking it didn't match Because the spirit of god was in me in that moment when you have spirit of god with you They can hate you they can try to oppress you But they can't touch that Which is the spirit see right now e people are looking at the physical you But they do not understand that that spirit that is in you It's something that god doesn't give anyone permission to touch that it belongs to him and him only But a lot of people are mistakenly I told everybody 2022 Woman gonna become more successful in everything Because that's the vibration for woman black woman white woman woman in particular worldwide going to have Greater position. They have never seen before in seven years ago I told every black person spiritually. They were delivered Now it just need to manifest in the physical world the oppression that Minority people has been facing worldwide it is over From now to 30 30 You will see a new wave of knowledge coming from minority people everywhere and by woman taking the lead You will see major change of fairness It doesn't matter if it's a white woman black woman hispanic woman You will see a lot of new leadership come it starting 2022 a vibration of Six and onward it's going to be very powerful for our environment man. That's dope, man. Let's get into you but I want to know um How old were you when You started gaining this knowledge Because I know sometimes we have to fall before we can come up and you have to go through things So I want to know what happened for you to seek this knowledge and to figure this out When I was six years old my grandmother die The um the ambulance Came and then there was bringing her out I had came from church that day and the pastor had put his hand and people had forehead So what I did I ran after my grandmother and I did what the pastor did and she woke up And my grandmother told everyone that I woke her up For years and Haiti anytime somebody sick that would put my hand and they will heal then after a while I got disconnected One day I was reading the book by zig Ziggler And everything he was saying it was already I was already doing When zig Ziggler said would you allow somebody to bring garbage into your front door? And if not then why would you allow them and how are you when you read this book? I was about 13 years old. Okay, it's a time. Okay Then I started getting tapes Then listening to audiobooks. I would go to the library. I would get booked from all the Different artists Tony Robin all those because I was hungry for success I did not have a role model I'm the only one in my family with an accent The reason why is because I wanted to speak differently, but My parents didn't speak English like you guys do My parents didn't have the financial mean to send me to a better school Every single thing that I've done with almost $175,000 in student loan It's so I can get out of poverty Then once I acquired the knowledge I find out I didn't even need the phd Because if you're hungry for success with the environment that we have now with youtube and the internet You can have a hundred phd with knowledge without paying the penny for it, but you have to want it That's one of those things that I told my kids If you go into a university make sure you go into accomplish something where you can run Because you are the CEO of your life You must have a mission statement of everything that you're doing because you are an ink An employer hires you because you're producing something for them. They're paying you so technically you are in business But most people do not look at that when we go to school We go to school for us to go work for somebody We never go to school for us to come do for ourselves That's why when we receive the information we don't use it the same way Even if you're working for somebody it should be a temporary thing while you doing your own thing in the side Again, you have 86,400 second You can invest eight hours in a company, but you must invest at least four hours in yourself or in a side hustle Where your side hustle can Replace your nine to five five times before you get a chance to quit Wow, that's good stuff man. Jamilson pierra lewis man phd. Dr pierre doctor pierre yes So the book um, when did you write this book? Uh, what year was that? And how did you come up with I gotta I gotta write me a book Well this book, uh, I wrote it in 2016. Okay, uh, the the new book it just came out Driven to overcome my my daughters They were going to uh, Texas woman university And she had a moment of depress. She's like dad. How do you do it? It's I see you constantly going and going and she was depressed And I was concerned. So I told my wife that I want to write something Like a like a blueprint If I die the only thing that I want you to do have my son and my daughters Read it 10 times Because I wouldn't I wanted to take my mind and then put it in the book And that's the reason why when I get the feedback from the first book People love the motivation and all the other stuff, but the finance part They had find it a little bit out of the league But then with the next book I went in even harder taking everything that people wanted to understand But put God in the center of it because he's the foundation of everything I am Wow Me also, man, I tell you this here, um, man Big accomplishments, man. So, um You said that a person could become a millionaire A person can become how long it takes more to millionaire and and and if you for you to say that You got to stand on that. What type of investments do you have? Well, the thing is I own super financial trader. I am uh, I'm uh, you see I have nine financial license I'm a chief financial operation principle I created hash trade in 2001 And hash trade is a platform where I process over 150,000 securities in one second in order to create buy and sell signal using super technology And the one thing that I do is that my money is I make it trading equity binary option option cryptocurrency and currency So this is one of the area where I am an expert at creating platform One of the thing that I want to do is Being able to partner my company with some heavy hitters Now I love black entities That's the reason why the lack of kevin hart or will smith or dr. Dre or even pity the Some of the thing that they are doing i'm amazed by it one of my hero is jz For where he came from and the success he's been able to achieve I have a software that had a seven point six billion dollars by valuation If you see firm want to give me 260 million dollar seed money The reason why I don't give in is because they want 70 percent ownership That automatically make it a non-black entity And I always tell god to give me direction as to who to do business with because it's not about making money for yourself The thing is I want to be able to bring a hundred million Minority worldwide and teach them this so-called secret and dysfunction market You can make a killing up if I can do it you can do it a hundred time better Trading is the most easiest thing if you have the right tools The reason why people are paying a bloomberg $2,000 a month It's so they can have the advantage the competitive edge So when I had created hedge trade it was supposed to take the knowledge of those big hedge fund And then bring it where somebody like my dad who never finished high school in america can trade just like a professional And this is one of the key reason why I stand on this platform and I ask god I say guide me It's not about money Because you would have already heard me as a billion a long time ago But I am a spiritual driven person So the the thing that god has done for me It's moving money And that's the reason why I told god if I cannot impact a hundred million people worldwide Because i'm one of those individual that doesn't see color But I stand against unfairness and oppression And that's what god Is against wow to me up here Louise man good that's good stuff man. So um when you think about uh the way that uh our uh Our people are are in america people of minority because you spoke on that earlier um What is the what you say you see this thing just pretty much going away seven years ago spiritually Every black oppression is done But it needs to manifest in the physical world and that's what you're going to see with the leadership of woman worldwide You're gonna see a whole new paradigm shift of change You're gonna see a lot of young people are in power People are going to be hungry for knowledge Things that were secretive are now coming to light Before the end of this year We're going to have more new information Now remember i'm on a 14 days water fast every year for 10 days. I fast with water to give god glory And this is one of those things that you must have the spirit of god with you I'm not talking about how people manipulate the bible to gain for their own self I'm talking about the true spirit of god that's on every one of us And this is one of the biggest thing that people Are shouting away from With the shutdown of the spiritual aspect of the church and everything that we stand for But if you get up every morning knowing that god gave you 86 400 second and then you say I want to make a change in my life And I want something different That's the reason why in this book like I had a guy that read this book three times when he first came out on kendo And he wrote back and he says Every single thing that you are saying that I'm become that example to show there's nothing special about me. I grew up in the ghetto I was born in the worst ghetto anything I can do you can do with a million time better As a super financial trader you could be even better The only thing that I do whenever I am given an opportunity I don't waste the time If you want to make a hundred million dollars, you gotta start thinking like it You have to be a millionaire mentally right now. I can give somebody 10 million dollars If he's not a millionaire mentally, I guarantee you in 10 years he'll go broke But if I take somebody enter what you will call ghetto That's already millionaire mentally and give him a hundred thousand dollars That individual would probably make a hundred million dollars Because success is a mindset How you think and what you believe about yourself Will make the future that you design Wait, that'll work man. I'll tell you man. Um, what else you got for jamil? Nothing right now Jamilson is uh, uh Definitely a dope guy man. So, um, how can people get a get well? I know they can get your book on amazon And you got a new book coming over Uh Driven to over come and that want to be available. That's not that's in kendo right now right now. It's on kendo Okay, that's in kendo right now. They can download it and one of the thing that i'm i'm actually doing Every person that buy this book i'm creating a uh a session where They have the question where in the group of a zoom where I provide them free life coach Well Do what's the difference between this book and that book? This book has a lot of finance in there Okay, and uh, the uh, the other book has uh Other new information that's more powerful away from the the finance But the finance is great for somebody that's trying to establish business plans that trying to uh establish a company Which is great both complement each other, but the other book is it's it's what everybody based on four years focused group It's that book that's taking somebody from Poverty and you read that book ten times It's it's the familiar spirit cannot even hold you especially With the with the thing the way you will be communicating with god the way you Will know yourself You cannot hold yourself back. Wow. What's the um Because you keep saying ten time. What is so special about ten time? Why not four times? Why not five times? That's good. The reason ten time philosophy wise when you Read something the first time Some people learn by association If you were to read something and watch a video of that same thing your retention goes up approximately 35 The third time your retention may go up. Maybe another 40 But on the tenth time you really just need to have a 65 to 75 retention Whenever you read a book if you pay Say ten dollars for a book If you read the book ten time you would you should extract over a hundred thousand dollars of ideas Just from that book Most people do not know how to read with purpose And that's the reason why usually The financial Books are usually read them ten time and there's the reason why you see one buffet has that same concept Of going back to the basic And that is what makes a huge difference Wow demille simpierre louise phd Free extreme poverty to success The book man this book is also available this book. It's uh It's I ran out of it, but I have a lot of physical copy in hand, but it's gonna come back You're gonna bring it back this week. Okay. This week is gonna come back. Yeah, this week is gonna come back Yeah, you self-publish or do you have a publishing company now? I own hedge consulting publishing and the reason why I do that because this book I had so about a hundred thousand copy of it the premium privilege publisher committed fraud So, uh, that's the reason why but the good thing is I all I own all the rights The only thing he was supposed to do is just do the graphic work So because I see a lot. Um, we've met so many people who came on our platform who who are doing self-publishing nowadays Yeah self-publishing it's Ownership is the way to go even If you were to give up Something that you own try to retain at least 10 percent of it Because it's there's not enough hours in a day For you to work To make money, but if you can create a product that can give you that recurrent revenue Then your money can be making money That's the reason why I I have a majority Grand tourism and I told people how I would take this money and make that money buy that car without me losing that money And they're our own a real estate company But I flip houses In the weekend I have people that goes there by that's because when you trade you have this capital gain Where you're gonna pay almost 50 percent tax How do you take that money take short term capital gain and convert it to long term where you liable for 15 percent tax And that's where my real estate company comes in and plus I am able to make 60 to 70 return on the right market if you know Exactly what strategy to use even in the competitive market God gave me a gift where if I see a property I could tell my people send this price in that price I got a question. So um Being driven for success and a lot of people are driven for success You know how sometimes when we get so one-track mind that other things fall to the wayside And you're a family man. How Were you able to balance success with a family? That's uh, that's a very good question It's acknowledging your time. I'm gonna give you an example I have it in my book a chapter that's very powerful because my daughter's was about to be 20 They're about to be 25 in april. They asked me that same question And this is one of those things that I'm telling and I'm gonna tell you right now When you go to sleep you try to sleep for six hours To seven hours You take one hour to get ready That's our eight hours. Then you have 60 hours left. See you work an hour away from your house you use audio book or Something that you can put into your head While you're driving by the time you spend eight to nine hours. See you invested 10 hours Then suddenly you will have six hours left You could take Four hours to three hours if you are in college to do all your stuff And then you have another three hours left That three hours if you are driven to be a multimillionaire you might find out each hour worth $10,000 That means that if somebody comes to you And say look, I need to go to the mall to go holler at this girl You have to ask yourself Is this worth $10,000 right now because it's not where you end up making the money It's what you do with your time right now. How do you value it? I've been with my wife for 20 years for 20 years Friday evening is for my wife taking her out Movies everything that she fall in love with me 20 years ago When my daughters left the house I had to take my son and my younger daughter. So instead not being able to take my I take all of them out the same way The reason why is you have to have time for investment That's why I have a bucket to say i'm gonna spend Four weeks vacation with my family Then x amount of time to take my wife and children out. So all of that is part of the investment I call it the bank account system But my wife knows when I am trading when I am creating when I'm that is already allocate So she doesn't interrupt me in those four hours where if I'm doing some philanthropic work Because she already have the time that already allocate for her. So if somebody managed that time I guarantee you They can become a multimillionaire In four years 48 months Yeah, I heard it. Yeah, I heard that allocated for her You don't do any business because you know how sometimes when you're a businessman your phone ringing They're this that whatever and let me tell you something. I have a hundred acre ranch in Shreveport, Louisiana I have a mention in Sherman When we go there specifically the signal when we in the land It's just time for my wife And my son so I because see the thing is And you will see in my book when I was fighting for custody for my daughters The worst thing I did is that I was focusing so much when I was building my trading software And there was a disconnect with my daughters until I saw when my daughter's was 13 years old A 60 year old man trying to give them compliment to make him feel like and I said, you know what? There is no money in this world That would cause me to lose my daughter So I fought for custody end up winning custody for my daughters And that's when I start putting my priority the way I just told you Because I knew I can gain financially But when I looked at my daughter, I have to look at myself. Did I give it a hundred percent? And that's with any relationship. You have to give it a hundred percent That's right. Hey, man. Thank you so much. Jamil, Pierre, Louise, phd Great book, great session, man. Love the interview. Love your energy I love you, man, and I pray that God keep continuing to bless you And and and prosper you and everything that you are looking to accomplish in life. Thank you You're in the same thing, you know, I decree and declare boss thought 101 101 Our heavenly father is gonna bless you and your wife and your son and because I just felt his energy You have success in your hand Because anything that you and your wife Felt like in the past 10 years that was robbed from you God is installing it in your children because You have success in your life But you already know it but says sometime where you have doubt Where sometimes the obstacle come You may argue with your wife, but you both want that success the same way What make you guys perfect at the end of the day? Your vision is the same And most people should be lucky to have that in their life. Hey, man. Thank you so much, man We don't definitely work on it, right? Yes, sir. All right. Yeah, and the thing We just appreciate your energy, man Like I said in the way that you put God in the midst of everything that you do. That's one thing that we're trying to Really influence on this platform is that God is first and all that we do and we always try to find a way to Try to bless others and we brought we we put this show together And these are the shows right here that mean the most to me is when we can Center dyes and talk about God Finances poverty-stricken places that have been healed. You are you're hey, man I want I want to ask you about that suit you got on though, man. You're looking real real real nice. It's tailored Yeah, um, yeah, it fits you perfect. I just want to understand Um, so do you have a you have a clothing line? Well, actually, uh, this is a jimilson suit where oh, okay It's jimilson This is one of the suit that cost seven thousand dollars. So I can't sell it But it's just that I have so many of them that they've made for me It's uh, it's a lot of people want to know where to buy this suit But if there's somehow that I could have Made the same suit and then make it affordable for for people that would that would be But the material and everything else, uh, they And you made it well, it's it's a guy out of Italy that uh make this suit And uh, and I I saw it a lot of executive I have their own folks and they invite me in this thing and I just loved it So even the even my my shirt is jimilson shirt. It's it's uh, it's one of those things that uh When you are blessed you you you have to actually treat yourself to the best. There you go, man So, um, this suit right here. Is this the same? That's that's yeah, that's a jimilson suit as well Man, thank you so much for coming on the show, man I've been totally blessed man by the things that you've said the positive things that you've been Inputting to me and my wife's life in the podcast boss talk 101 where the bosses talk, man You truly are boss, man. You know, I I I respect that and I appreciate that and I'm I'm hoping that black people white learn the financial market because With all the different shutdown there's billions to be made trading worldwide And this is the reason why you see the Countries all over you're gonna see a lot of young people Are driving to the financial market You watch everything that I say because god say I'm of an advisor for him Everything that I say and I decree and declare in the name of yeshra hamashir He's short pass. Hey, man. Say man. Thank you so much, man Jamilson pierre lewis phd, man. Thank you for coming on the show. It's been another great segment of boss talk 101