 This is an official live stream of the CNCF and as such is subject to the CNCF code of conduct Please do not add anything to the chat or questions that would be in violation of that code of conduct basically be respectful of all your fellow participants and presenters Welcome to the CNC face-off and here is our host the very luscious Maddie Stratton All right, welcome to round one of CNC face-off This is a live streamed game show featuring two teams facing off get it To compete to see who will eventually Rise to the top of the bracket and be awarded the coveted CNC face-off cup We are really excited to be kicking off today Thank you for joining us as we're gonna go we're gonna get started and First though, let's go ahead and we've got two different teams So our first team will introduce each player as they come up But we have the rogues gallery versus the contrib ex sig and on our first face-off is going to be Is gonna feature cat Cosgro facing off against Laura Santa Maria. So Contestants go ahead get your hands on your buzzer But remember what's gonna happen? We have hundreds of Technologists engineers developers out there in the CNCF ecosystem to get their answers To some popular questions our confessors are gonna have to try to guess what they think the most popular responses were So if we're ready players, are you ready? You have your hands on your buzzers ready? Let's go ahead and we're about to start that first face-off and Producer Paul, let's get us started Okay, so Contestants the question is name a reason someone would give for not backing up their laptop And the buzzer the first buzz in was cat cat give me a reason someone would give for not backing up their laptop laziness show me laziness Lazy Well, so that means Takes control and we'll move along but before we go into that cat Let's get to know cat a little bit here. So cat you're joining us. I understand that you are quite the expert in Dockershim so can you explain a docker shim to me in five words or less a big a big pain for me Sounds fantastic. All right. Yeah, so We'll go ahead our first we're moving down the line here I want you to imagine that our players are lined up and I'm kind of walking along and I'm gonna sidle up next to Mr. Mr. Tim banks or Tim. I Love to have you on the show here. Thanks for joining us. Oh, my pleasure. My pleasure, man I Understand that one of your hobbies is Getting mad at people for putting beans in chili. Can you tell me more about this? Well, I mean, yeah, because I mean you have chili and then when you put beans in it It ceases to be chili. It becomes something else It's I don't know what it is, but it's not just beanie beats do Like Yankee beans do I don't know like New England bean chowder. Maybe but it's definitely not chilly anymore So chili with beans is monitoring and proper chilies observability. Maybe correct. Correct. All right, Tim Or maybe it's to the way around All I know is Chili with beans is a DevOps engineer. There we go. Whoa Okay, okay, Tim show me tell me a reason someone might give for not backing up their laptop Forgetfulness show me forgetfulness Forgetfulness is not on the board Sorry to say sorry to say but that's okay. So rogues gallery. You have a one strike right now Let's move on down to our third player on the team. Mr. Rich burrows. So rich How you doing today? I'm good Maddie. Your hair is fantastic Your beard is fantastic. Can you can you your number one beard care tip? Get a great barber Get a great barber. This is so basically hire your way to great great beer Beard or hire your way to great beer. I don't know either either way kind of works out pretty pretty fine Okay, so rich can you tell me a reason someone might give for not backing up their laptop? My date is all in the cloud Show me it's all in the cloud. So Give me a reason someone would give for not backing up their laptop I Don't care I just don't care survey says Okay, rogues gallery's got two strikes Tim. It's on you man Give me another reason someone would give for not backing up their laptop Let's go with there's nothing important on there Show me nothing important very well. Nice. It is not important. Okay rich Give me a reason someone would give for not backing up their laptop Get ops get ops show me get Get ops is a big strike. Okay. All right contribex. This is your chance to steal so our contribex folks don't Have the opportunity To give one answer and if that answer they come up with is one of the two remaining choices of these hundreds upon hundreds of developers We surveyed they will steal and they will get all the points. So Kasselin you are the team captain Who we haven't introduced we can discuss this though, right? Yes discuss it amongst yourselves Yeah, rogues gallery or sorry. Yeah, my suggestion is is some variation on too slow. The backup was too slow I was thinking network failure something like I was gonna say no network Okay, what's your work laptop where you're not allowed to connect to the internet? Mmm, that would be a problem. Sweet. I'll think we do like So too slow or no network, which one do we want to go with? There's also don't know how we haven't said that yet. That's true. That's true. Oh, I Could go with that one. Yeah, that's actually probably that's a good one All right. Okay. What's your answer? Which is what? Hey, we're all going for it, right? Yep. Yep. Do it. Yep What's the answer? Oh our the answer from team sig contrib X is Don't know how show me. I don't know how to do it Go to contrib X excellent excellent We we didn't get a chance to be able we'll get to another play but let's our next two Players entering the face off. Don't get a reveal five. Oh Yeah, let's see what number five a pure hatred Okay, I don't think I want to guess that one Our final rich Next up in the face off is going to be Tim banks facing off against Caslin Fields no against Laura Sammerit. Wait, who's next? It's Caslin. It's Caslin. I'm sorry first time you're good. Yeah. Got it. Okay. So Caslin before we before we jump in So, you know, you're part of team contrib X here What is the one thing that you feel could be done to make the contributing experience worse to cloud native? technologies Haven't we tried everything? We've tried a lot. It's hmm we could get rid of The the contributor help pages in the website. I think that would make it really hard It'd be a lot easier to update if they didn't exist. All right API docs proprietary There we go Make them all proprietary. Okay. So Caslin and Tim hands on your buzzers Let's see our next question in the face off Name a reason you might not purge a pull request. Tim was our first buzz Tim. What's a reason you might not merge a pull request? Because it's terrible Show me. It's the worst thing I've ever seen they says oh okay, so That means that contrib X will take take the board and I believe we will now be starting with Josh so Josh show me a Tell me a reason that you might not merge a pull request Can we discuss this? No, this is just you was just me. Yeah. Yeah No CLA DCO show me did not sign this CLA paperwork. Yeah did not do the right paperwork. What do we got? He says no Okay, that brings us back to Laura Laura name a reason you might not merge a pull request I'm gonna say doesn't include testing does not include testing show me Number one answer on the board. Okay, and then that brings us around to Caslin. Caslin. What's the reason you might not merge a pull request? Took the best one already. I don't know about this this audience you all pulled Um Can I say bad formatting show me like a giant pull request or something Formatting bad formatting tabs versus spaces will take it Okay, that brings us back to Josh Josh. Give me another reason that you might not merge a pull request Too busy to review. I am too damn busy. Yep survey says No, no. All right. So Laura you got two strikes on the board and he's still got four answers to reveal Can you give me a reason you might not merge a pull request? I'm gonna say did not pass the CI gate Continuous integration failure show me continuous integration failure Oh Here's your chance to steal rogues. Okay, so you have one chance to get one of these remaining four answers for a reason You might not merge a pull request. So Talk amongst yourselves All right. Mine is that I that we don't like the person who submitted it We just hate the person we just hate them personally what about like it's it's undocumented or No, yeah, no documentation or it's just like a single a single Typofix from somebody who's clearly just like farming PRs during hacktoberfest that might be too specific Like adding use to favor or favor unnecessarily obviously I Kind of like I kind of like no documentation. Okay. Yeah, I feel I feel I'm all right about documentation Okay, is that your answer show me no goddamn documentation? Rogues gallery steals award them the points, but let's see what was the number three answer? Not enough number reason It breaks functionality that is definitely not a reason not to merge as far as I'm concerned and What is our final choice for not to merge a pull request? Don't like somebody that's that's probably what counted. All right. We've all been there coming into our third third round There's by the way, there's four four rounds. So we're about halfway through our questions here So right now it's a close game rose gallery is only three points behind everything is up in the air So bringing on down for contrib X We will have Josh and Josh Burkus is gonna be facing off against rich burrows and Let's go ahead and let's see what question we have contestants hands on the buzzers producer Um, oh, there we go. What animal do you associate with kubernetes? I'm just saying locked to the buzzer. Oh, no, you. Oh, yeah, I hang on It says I've disconnected Let me try to refresh if I start playing the jeopardy theme song is that bad? I don't know but right now we've got Josh Josh and Rick have a little time to think about their answer Well, we wait for Yeah, oh come on Comcast We saw the contest to see who can spot it turning green first and hit the buzzer there we go Okay, wait, wait, there we go. Yes. Oh, we might that might have to give you a new key listeners or viewers. Um, no Do we want to switch to them doing voice buzzes? Screaming like it might be hard to tell who's first Oh, I think we just lost matt Maybe it should just be louder How about whoever's louder answers the question we can assume automatically ducks audio. So Oh, that's true Did we lose matt? Is he back? I think we lost him. I see frozen matt. Yeah Wow f in the chat. So so our next question is what happened to matt's connection Oh, here we go. Let's give let's give our top five answers there Can I get a call to the chat for matt stratton's internet connection? F in the chat twitch We could use that as our buzzer question Paul decides the best answer between our two So I Oh, we lost him again. I was going to say I think the reason that he lost internet is the squirrel got whiz wires He does have a puppy he has a My answer is hybrid cloud Hey, that's uh, may I also suggest? Oh, there we go. Yeah. Yeah Why don't we do the voice buzzers? Wait, how about how about copilot? I know what happened, right? He had to reboot his infinitasch tiller instance. There we go. Oh, yeah, that makes exactly what happened. Yeah, I understand that I hate it when you have to do that We've all been forever, you know, but I mean, it's it's, you know, I don't know Okay, I think I'm back But the buzzer might just be totally jazzed. So we're just gonna we're just gonna do it live. Okay So contestants hands on your buzzers. It's the first one to yell really loud is As who buzzes in because you have to wait till I'm done reading. What will do you associate with kubernetes? Buzz Okay, josh buzzed in. Okay. That's okay. All right. My answer is my answer is giraffe Whoa, show me giraffe That okay rich you've got a chance to steal if you come up with the number one answer on the board for what animal Do you associate with kubernetes? The rogues gallery will take control Wow Um Kat and I are both making faces gopher Show me gopher Don't say it because we're still playing show me gopher Oh, all right. So, uh, then uh, contribe x will Play, um, I believe our next that means we start off with laura laura. What animal do you associate with kubernetes? Give me a goose Show me a goose Yeah Okay, kasslin now is what it gets hard because there's four more So kasslin give me an animal that you associate with kubernetes cuddlefish Show me a cuddlefish No People don't josh. Yeah. It's a good joke. I like it. I like it Yeah, we're gonna send you home with a prize of a year supply of rice roni to san francis milk tree All right, josh tell me an animal that you people associate with kubernetes Okay, well because people are confused. I'm gonna say whale Show me a whale Yeah, number five answer on the board. All right laura. We got three more to go What's an animal that people associate with kubernetes? I'm gonna say an owl Show me owl No, no. All right josh or no, it's kasslin kasslin. Yes Oh, uh, you got one strike left and if you get this wrong then rogues get a chance to steal We asked hundreds of developers and engineers. What animal do they associate with kubernetes? What's your guess? So confused that uh, the the fibby crew is not in Um, since we're not getting any of the others of the fibby crew. I'm gonna go octopus Show me an octopus Wow All right, we had some more answers here. All right, josh. Oh, oh you got now it's like Okay There's a lot of points on that board Right. Yeah kubernetes kubernetes. Who would what are those very random animals would people pick? Clock is running you've got five seconds Okay Show me a mouse No, okay rogues, this is your chance to steal if you can pick The one of the answers is correct of what animal people associate with kubernetes. You will take this round What do you think about penguin? I uh I don't object to penguin. I don't they're just they're just aren't that many Animals that I associate with kubernetes Right. Well anything anybody says is going to be either like either four or three or two People would say it so hey, I'm I'm calling foul because paul is over here making gestures Oh paul we can we can all collaborate on this one. It's okay Paul's not on your team. Paul's not on your team. Oh that paul sorry Uh, hmm do we have to collaborate we can yeah Is is a squid a thing like owl was a no Mouse was a no. I don't know. I don't know what developers differentiate between octopus and squid Uh, I mean the argo cd thing is an octopus, right? Yeah, yeah I guess Fuck there's our one. Yeah Uh Let's go squid. We should we should any innocent you think you think squid over um I mean do we okay. Do we want to ask the guy who said gopher? That's fair. That's fair Uh, I could I could go with squid or with um or with penguin um due to the you know whole linux thing Maybe a penguin is is more likely Yeah, I feel like maybe All right, let's do it. We're gonna need an answer. Okay. We're going penguin. All right. Show me penguin No, all right, so points in this round go to contrib acts So Let's see. What was the number four answer Animal associated with kubernetes a turtle turtle. Oh, yeah, I get that that's again. It's a docker thing. It's slow Oh All right, I bet I know what number six though. What's our number six answer? Was the narwhal this is what paul is he was doing? Okay all right, um Yeah, I forgot about the other docker animals Okay, we've got our final round here Rogues you're gonna have to You're gonna have to push this one along So, uh, we're coming back to the face off is going to be laura versus cat If we're ready, let's go ahead and see what ours our final question of today's game. What is your favorite? programming language And cat buzzes in first cat. We asked hundreds of developers and engineers. What is their favorite programming language? What was the number one answer python? Show me python Number one. Okay, so the rogues gallery will play which brings us to tim. So mr. Tim banks Uh, what is the most pop one of the next most popular answers for what is your favorite programming language? go like Show me go Number two answer on the board. Okay rogues are on their way rich No strikes. You got it's wide open Tell me what an answer might be for what is your favorite programming language? I want to say get ops, but I don't think that's it um Javascript Show me javascript Javascript, okay rogues are in in this to win this. Okay, that brings us back to cat We got three more to go and three strikes Uh available to us. So uh, what what's another answer for what is your favorite programming language? I don't agree with this, but i'm going to guess java Show me java No, good. You know what good. Good. I'm glad I'm glad that was wrong. I'm good job developers It's nobody's favorite. It's nobody's favorite, but some of y'all Okay, that brings us to tim. Tim. You still got two strikes available. You got three answers on the board What is an answer for your favorite programming language? Go c plus plus Show me c plus plus No, all right This is down to you now rich. You're gonna have to pull this off here There's two strikes available. Um, why don't you go ahead and tell me uh, no two strikes available You got two strikes on you. Uh What is a new one of these answers for your favorite programming language? I wish I knew how to program that would make this easier. Uh, it's okay. I can't program either, but I still get paid to do it ruby Show me ruby Number three You got two more to go rogues and you will probably walk away with this thing. So uh cat Give me another uh, favorite programming language answer rest Show me rust And that is Okay, really? Okay, so we got we got a chance here and I'm thinking we go with either bash or yaml So yeah Which which one though Surely there's something else we can do Yeah, I'm sure not going with sql. I was actually pretty sure about rest to be honest with you, but I Yeah, that was the one I was kind of banking on. Um, other things I can think of are like pearl c sharp We didn't say c we said c plus plus, but we didn't say c Yeah, yeah, but this is favorite. Yeah, like favorite really enjoys doing. Yeah, but yaml Okay, but what about bash I do love bash personally, but I feel like most people don't think of it as a programming I can see a lot of people putting it on the survey for fun. Yeah I can see a lot of people putting it in the survey for fun. I could see yaml as this as going on the survey for fun, too All right, we're gonna need an audience Yep, so what do we want to go with? It's kubernetes Do we want to say yaml? Or do we want to do bash? I could go either way Like c is stronger. I'm gonna give you about 30 seconds. I can see your kids are backs I don't know. I don't think c is likely if rust is not on there Okay, right So you want to do yaml because kubernetes? Yeah, people don't know that yet. Let's let's just do yaml because kubernetes. Let's do it. Okay. Okay, that's your answer Language, but let's do it anyway We asked hundreds at whales and octopuses. Yeah, I know but let's let's just do let's go for it Why not? All right, we asked hundreds of engineers. What is their favorite programming language? Your answer is yaml show me yaml I figured someone was gonna say that's not the right language. That's not a language, but The rogue gallery takes the points Which brings them ahead. I believe but let's go ahead and award them those points And let's take a look now and see what the final remaining answers were show me the number five answer for favorite programming language Excellent Show me what was the number five answer though? All right, which brings us to the end of our game. Let's see who our winner was Producers the rogues gallery takes the first round, but don't worry Contra backs we have some lovely parting gifts again Not only will you be going home with a virtual year supply of rice roni the san francisco treat We'll also give you the cncf certification of your choice This is also the lawyers would like us to say that paul and I cannot promise any such things and you will not get anything Other than our undying appreciation Thank you everybody for tuning in players. Thank you for being part of this um Don't forget to follow us here on twitch smash that follow button tomorrow we have Coming up. 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