 Thank you, Sam for that presentation a shout-out to Charlotte Baker who's joining us in the symposium And now I'd like to turn it over back to Dustin Nabeen the University of Arizona Wildcat to take you through a Q&A All right. Thank you. I really enjoyed that session We have a ton of questions for you guys our first question is for Matt Matt if you could unmute your mic Matt's good to see what you guys are doing up in Calgary the Calgary Sport Institute You've been an inspiration for us we had a question on There's this period that they called the dark window which is after an athlete gets injured and then when they have surgery and Do you believe there any assessments that are valuable during that time period to guide their rehabilitation? You know Dustin I think to keep the answer short. That's a gap for us. It's not something that at the current time that we have any Specific strategies around But back to the idea of scaling conversations, you know after surgeries have occurred You know, we do try to get some neuromuscular testing done as as soon as we can Mostly to begin to scale the oftentimes over potentially overly optimistic outlooks that we might have very early on in the post surgical period You know as we start to look to return to sport that that is important to us and Similarly, I think you know getting getting some data points in and around the injury is key the last little piece I'll say is that a future work for us is you know, we're looking potentially at some blood biomarkers in and around injury to help guide these sorts of conversations and Importantly trying to correlate the pathology that we have around ACL injury so all the associated injuries that occur to to that return to sport timeline and The recovery rate that we we described in the presentation Thank You Matt. That is excellent Ernie you brought up some Some good points about coach buy-in so Initially, it seems like your coach came to you with a question asked, you know provided you a task of decreasing the injury rate Then you talked about how you Used videos to get other staff on board I think I'll kick it over to the other two first then we'll come back to you if you want to expand on it Matt well, you're on do you want to take that question first? What have you done from a coach buy-in perspective to make sure that your interventions? Are are used by the team effectively? I mean it's funny. We were just I was just having a chat about this with one of our One of our staff that Dr. Courtney Brown is actually watching this as well And and certainly coach buy-in has been an athlete buy-in has been has been a has been a huge challenge It always is a challenge. The main strategies are obviously around building that initial rapport Building building that initial trust that I think takes time So, you know from a from a from a personal relationship standpoint I think that's sort of the platform to to move forward into some of the more Technical stuff that we're doing Certainly as well, you know when we've had a few wins with some more complicated situations the reputation of our care and our And our you know putting athletes first is also been something that you know We're continually trying to get better at so it's that whole thing of you know Assessing the problem debriefing so we can get better quickly Because I think that's that's kind of your cornerstone for building trust with the coach and being able to get the buy-in And coach Gardner, what are your thoughts on this? Yeah, I think it's gonna be it's gonna be tough to get anything accomplished If you don't have a good relationship with the sport coach as an SNC ideally I try to be as present as possible at training sessions and meet with coaches off-site as much as possible to Kind of relate to each other more as a human being instead of just coach the coach all the time So something as simple as a coffee chat something as simple as grabbing a Burrito together just something I do with the cycling coaches And hopefully just including them in the process so they're they know what's going on every single week And hopefully there's more more buy-in from their end if they're actually educated like Matt said on what the process is and Hopefully if you could connect as humans not just coaches once in a while that usually helps me out of it with the relationship side of things I've interrupted many of coach Gardner's coffee chats with coaches at our local coffee shop down the street So I know he's telling the truth there Ernie outside of the video example. What other things have you found effective? It's it's unique to each environment the reality is like in collegiate athletics coach buy-in is is Probably more important than the athlete buy-in because in collegiate athletics in America at least we get to For the most part dictate what the athletes are going to do during those mandatory periods So they they're kind of at our disposal and for that reason I actually feel that collegiate athletics practitioners have to be some of the top practitioners out there I don't know if that's necessarily true But we have to be because it's because gaining athlete buy-in isn't as important because they they just have to do what we say so that's why the coaches actually act as the they're kind of the CEOs of the sport program and We do a really good job at Utah with our sports forms teams the dietitian the athletic trainers the physical therapists the strength conditioning coaches The psychologists the scientists we all meet at regular intervals to talk and strategize how to maximize health safety and performance of our athletes but all of that's at at a loss like we can do all this work around The athletes, but if we can't get the coach engaged in that process Then I I think we fall short of what we could do so With the football case the video was the right option because once we go to practice you saw those practice plans We have ten different position coaches and they're all taking their experience to the table So how can we get the same message to the coaches? That that was a really good strategy there but with a lot of other sports like for example with our volleyball team we meet as an entire Group all the coaching staff operations and all the support services meet as an entire group once a week And so now it's just it's just real-life conversations and they're frequent conversations So we formally convene for about an hour a week talk about all things in the program So so in a way a long story short videos work When you need to give the same message to a lot of coaches and you don't always have that opportunity to provide that message But in some settings it could just be those formal conversations and building those Relationships so that the coaches start to take heed on what the sports performance team is suggesting to maximize the success of the program Coach Gardner, you've had an interesting career path With different sports and in different organizations. Can you talk about how those experiences helped you prepare for coaching adaptive sport athletes? Yeah, I mean, I've been been really fortunate to have had the journey I've been on I think everywhere I've gone I've been surrounded by great people And I've been fortunate to be able to pick people's brains and know a lot more about certain areas than I do I think having exposure to a variety of sports and human performance settings has helped me because Any lesson you learn from one sport culture or one athlete can help you with a future athlete or a future coach and Just the whole idea of learning different communication tactics and skills and different ways to build relationships Seems to be a common theme right now in this Q&A, but there's no one one way to connect with every single person So being able to kind of draw back on all these different experiences I think has helped me relate to athletes in different situations better than how I just come from one setting. I also think working with Holistic teams or high performance teams for the last decade. I've been fortunate to learn new ways to connect with staff as well And hopefully learning how to actually build relationships helps with communication And then that just helps with the buying process So each of you are lifelong learners who started your career in S&C and then have pursued additional education and are continuing to pursuing academic opportunities or different types of micro-certifications or Looking always looking for new skills Can you talk to us about? We're gonna go to each of you But how did your career start and then what made you think I need something else from an education standpoint and why you chased that? Matt, let's start with you Yeah, no, thanks for the question Dustin You know, I think I think the key for me is that that awareness that You know, we throughout our entire lives. I think we need to be pursuing you know mentorship and I just know that the oftentimes the impetus has been You know sort of innate things, you know, you're I'm curious I like to learn more I all those obvious Obvious pieces, but there's really an active component that you know for me It's about it's about continuing continuing to seek mentorship and knowing that that's a kind of a core value for myself in terms of my own personal leadership You know, the other thing I would say that that Coaches and practitioners may struggle with is that there's times in your career where you know You're going wide as a practitioner and obviously broad with how we work and then there's times Especially if you want to take a more of a research oriented approach where you've got to kind of come narrow and go deep And I've found that another thing that's been helpful in addition to that awareness of always wanting to seek mentorship is Honestly knowing when I'm in a mode of being wide and when I'm in a mode of needing to go deep Because it changes how you think a little bit and obviously brings up blind spots With whichever mindset that you happen to be in But I know for myself that's that's kind of been a cornerstone for my career and a theme that keeps coming back up Is mentorship and seeking it out? All right coach Gardner you're on the hot seat Yeah, I mean, it's pretty cliche, but I think every year I learn how much I actually don't know and a lot of my personal interest in learning and education are derived from Potential problems that we need to solve with the athletes I work with so if it's a new sport I'm working with or a new coach. I'm working with or a new new set of athletes There's always kind of unique challenges and situations that I want to educate myself on to better help those individuals that I'm here to serve so a lot of my personal Education and Continuing continued learning has been kind of derived from me trying to help answer a question or try to solve a problem that was placed before me Dr. Imer well for for me, you know when I started university I was a film production major and That was probably my most advanced skill set as a teenager was my artwork But I realized during university that I was spending so much more time reading about nutrition and training and training it that The homework wasn't inconvenience because it was taken away from that study my favorite book at that time the first book on training I read was Arnold's encyclopedia on bodybuilding and as I advanced through my career I discovered strength conditioning I transferred to Northern Arizona became a lumberjack as they had an exercise science program I was hired by the US ski team by their their sports science department as the years went by I Mean in reality We were only training the skiers Consistently for like eight weeks in the summer Maybe if we had eight weeks and then the rest of the year was about managing all these other things to give them the best chance to succeed During every ski run, which is very expensive by the way So I started to shift my focus towards sports science Realized that I was a craft sports scientist tried to figure out say can I short fast-track this nope have to do It the hard way so I grinded my way through a multidisciplinary PhD and Now here I am and this I've kind of recreated my career as a sports scientist for you for University of Utah But you know over the past year I've had a PhD hangover now that I'm done and now I'm starting to look ahead Here's what I realized though is that all of us who's here. There's 3500 people here We have this tremendous amount of domain expertise the problem is we don't know how to automate it The world is run by software and automation and there is a world in our future where Kids right now in the same way we were taught to write cursive and type on a computer kids are being taught to develop software a World does exist when domain experts also know how to develop software. So I'll be starting a Full software development course at 16 hours a week. I'll be a full stack developer by the end of the summer. Let's see what happens I'd say software developments a little unusual for most sports scientists. That's a pretty impressive one to take on Ernie there's been a lot of talk about Athletes we don't know what return to sport looks like yet for the most part and there are a lot of athletes who are not training or doing Workouts in their house or a local park and then they're going to be put back into some formal training environment You guys believe that assessments should be in place during the return to training period to help prepare the subsequent training plans athletes are given Ernie will you're on we'll go to you first Well, absolutely first of all We're heavily constricted in the collegiate environment the NCAA rules due to liability have prevented us from really supervising any form of workout and so yes the entry assessment for our athletes during our return to place will be critical and What we're currently going through right now is which assessments are critical and how do we need to adapt the athletes abilities when they come in to Whatever timeline we have to our first competitions And so it's going to be really critical But we have to be super strategic because all these athletes are going to flood the campus at one time faster than they ever have in one Mass group we have to be really strategic about really identifying the critical assessments We need and most likely we're going to upscale our monitoring efforts and our surveillance efforts to do everything We can to mitigate risk during what will most likely be a very rapid timeline Yeah, that's a good point and we're pushing our Our monitoring programs really hard right now So we have some baseline activity level Understood as people try to ramp up because it's also a concern of ours Sam do you want to expand on that in the Paralympic population you're working with? Yeah, I mean I like Ernie said I think it's pretty important to make sure that we actually go through a formal assessments when athletes Come back to not make any false assumptions to understand where they actually are As best as we can before and knowing where the sport coach wants them and make sure that we have a logical progressional on the way But before you don't worry about or performance right now Obviously with impaired populations. There's a good percentage of the athletes I work with have Out on you deficiencies or we can immune system states. So Before I just worry about performance. I think it's going to be imperative to make sure that we identify athletes who might be more susceptible to Contracting anything before I just worry about pushing performance parameters. So that's obviously Kind of priority number one on my list right now with a pair of populations Yeah, it's a great point and Matt what are your comments from the the Canadian perspective? I mean, you know, I'll like some similar comments as my counterparts And maybe to add a little bit, you know something different to the to the mix You know, I'm just really fortunate to have such a strong team of practitioners at the community sport Institute Calgary our physio is a melodric with strength coaches and you know Courtney Brown as I mentioned who's on this call and so I think you know to manage right now, especially with our return to sports Cases we've got athletes coming back from injury Certainly one key has been over communication. So, you know, we've been we've been touching base with them in a very strategic way building out these return to performance training plans for each of the athletes that details not only sort of I guess the Like like a yearly training plan would for for a non injured athlete, but also Layered in this is our communication strategy. So making sure that we're, you know, we've got our touch points planned We're we're reaching out in the most appropriate ways And then the last piece is similar to what's been sort of discussed here is the use of wearables been been working with a company at a Vancouver and in trying to Implement through sort of a smart insole Health check that can be done on a weekly basis with our athletes to be able to look at, you know, walking Jumping and running as they're progressing back after injury. So all of those are sort of layered in right now and Certainly, it's it's it's going to be important because I think like we're all seeing is that athletes are at different levels right now And and when we sort of keep back up here, whenever that time will be We're gonna need to sort of drill down and figure out where the athletes are physically mentally and Make sure that we're meeting them where they're at and that we have a sensible progression as they make their way back so definitely on our radar and it's something that we're we're attending to you know with with With with the technology that's available to us Thank you, Matt. Thank you, Sam. Thank you, Ernie. That was a great session great Q&A We're gonna kick it back over to Charlie who's gonna take us to the lunch break Thank you gentlemen for that last session and Dustin for the Q&A Just to wrap up before we break for lunch There were a couple questions. I'm gonna just clarify a couple things in terms of questions. 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