 Are you ready for this, Len? I'm ready for this. Because the story is that Darren had something else to do today. But really, we just kicked him out for John's birthday. Yeah, that's right. He's missing a big day. It's a big day. It's a big day. Big day. All right, here we go. This is a public DTNS announcement. A message in English will follow. Welcome to the show with daily technological news with Tom Merritt and guests. Yes, I'm a media producer and also one of Tom's bosses. You can also get through to getting $1 or more in the month on PN.com. Happy birthday, sir. Thank you very much, Tom. It's a pleasure to be here on my birthday to celebrate with you guys. The only way I know how, reading out tech headlines. Correcting my physics. Thank goodness. I'm actually quite honored that you're willing to spend a little of your birthday weekend with us. I really appreciate that, man. I really do genuinely enjoy these times that we get to work together. To me, this is a birthday present. Thank you. Good feelings all around. Len Peralta joining us as well. I'm going to illustrate the show. How you been, Len? Good. It's my birthday too. Wait, really? Yeah. It's really things I couldn't. I didn't know that. I thought you already had a birthday this year. Yeah. That's one of the strange things. That's weird. I just like to celebrate multiple birthdays. I'm a multi-birthday type of guy. Sorry about eating there for a second, but these chocolate-covered almonds that my wife got on a bet over the MBA are just too delicious to resist. Yes. Let's put a plug in for Mally's candies here in Cleveland, Ohio. I hope you're enjoying them. Dark chocolate-covered almonds. Delicious. Delicious and nutritious. Tell Mally thank you. They really are. Adele. I'll tell Adele. That's Adele Mally. Thanks, Adele. Let's take a look at some headlines now. I'll try not to smack too much as I tell them to you. Geekwire obtained a company memo sent by Sacha Nadella to Microsoft employees revealing the company's new mission statement, which is to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more. I can't disagree with that. He added that the company could achieve the mission with three interconnected bold ambitions. One, reinvent productivity and business processes. That's Microsoft Office and stuff. Two, build the intelligent cloud platform. He's all about the cloud. And three, create more personal computing, which in his description talks a lot about devices. In a related story, someone created Satya Mania t-shirts at Teespring.com slash Satya Mania. None of the proceeds will go to this show, but you should go buy one anyway. The next web notes Lenovo is looking for feedback on whether it should build a new ThinkPad with a classic ThinkPad look. The laptop would have modern components in the classic design featuring the old rubberized paint, the classic multicolor ThinkPad logo, and the whole thing would be 18 millimeters thick. So thinner than the original. Of course they didn't. You know why this happened, Jonathan? Why is that, Tom? Because I just bought a ThinkPad earlier this week before they made this possible, which I might have bought anyway because we don't even know if they're going to do this. They're sort of seeking feedback, trying to get some press around the idea. I'm a big ThinkPad fan. If I'm a fanboy about anything, it could be about ThinkPads. They're so well designed, so rugged. They served me so well for so many years. And I love this idea about having a nostalgia ThinkPad. Although sometimes when companies go nostalgia, you wonder if that maybe means they've run out of ideas. I don't know. Right, right. And I'm a big ThinkPad fan too. That was my work computer, I think two computers ago. It was just incredibly reliable. Not necessarily a sexy looking machine, but if it's going to turn on when you need it to turn on, that's good for me. I think, yeah, I still have my ThinkPad T42 by my side at all times, just in case. Running Windows XP. Physics World explains the work of Nicola Alec and colleagues at the University of California, San Diego, that could double the capacity of fiber optic cables, no small feet. One limit on fiber optic cables is noise. Now some noise comes from the amplifiers that they need to use to boost the signal every 100 kilometers or so. The other problem is caused by the power of the signal that introduces some noise. The higher the power, the more noise. So you can't just boost the power to make the signal go farther because you're adding more noise. However, that power based noise is nonlinear but deterministic. It is a nonlinear but deterministic function that can be calculated and adapted to. The problem is that the laser frequencies drift a bit as they send the signal. So nobody could factor out the noise because of that drift until now. The researchers use something called a frequency comb. Basically a signal that acts like a ruler that shows what the frequency of the laser is, no matter whether it's drifting or not. That way you can boost the signal, then factor out the noise based on the frequency comb, and that means the signal can be at a higher power. That means it can travel longer, use fewer amplifiers and carry more data. Researcher is published in the journal Science. Now get that right, Jonathan, because this is way over in your area of things. Yeah, the basic idea here is that there are two things you can do to transmit optical signals a very far distance. One is that you use amplifiers, but as Tom pointed out, that can introduce noise into the signal, making it more difficult to get data cleaned through. Or you can boost that power so you don't need as many amplifiers, but that introduces noise because the refraction of silica is not perfectly linear. That's where that noise comes in. That's the deterministic one. So yeah, you got it right. It is incredibly complex stuff, and honestly we can talk for an hour about it and not even get close to a deep understanding of it. It would take me several days of non-stop talking. But the upshot is this frequency comb sort of gives them a baseline, which helps them do all the calculations and everything without getting into the base of that. And the upshot of that is we get faster fiber optics if this works in practice, right? Right, and that is fantastic. I mean, you're talking about much more throughput. So your data throughput is going to be phenomenal getting this new technique working. So that's pretty awesome. Next, we have a report about Engadget reporting the second generation FLIR-1 thermal camera. It will be available for iOS devices with an Android version shipping in July. It's a standalone device with its own battery that attaches by the lightning port or micro USB. You can pre-order now for $250, and the first generation, which will come in an iPhone, in phone cases will sell for $150. This would be really useful if you are curious about if your house has a draft, if there's any place in your home that you might need to address, especially here in Atlanta when we're getting crazy heat waves. It's really important to be able to track that stuff down so that you're not spending huge amounts of money on energy bills. Oh, that's a great idea. Just sort of looking for cracks, thermal cracks basically. You can use it for heating as well in the winter, find out where your heat's coming in and going out. Sometimes if maybe you smell smoke, you could use this to be like, okay, is there something overheating in the walls or is it just somebody tarring their roof down the street? There's all kinds of things you can do with it. Will it give you night vision? Well, I mean, anything that's hot is going to show up, so sort of also kind of gives you night vision. So hey, why not get a FLIR 1 thermal camera add-on for your phone? 9 to 5 Mac, notice that the Apple Watch is coming to the Netherlands, Sweden, and Thailand on July 17th. Congratulations, folks. The Apple Watch is on sale today actually in Italy, Mexico, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, and Taiwan. The next web reports that OnePlus will launch its next phone, the OnePlus 2, which I suggest should just be called the 3 for short. On July 27th, the device will have a USB-C port, a Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 version 2.1 chipset under the hood, and it will run OnePlus's Android-based Oxygen OS. The OnePlus 2, seriously, really the OnePlus 2, will launch with a VR experience usable with a specific cardboard viewer. You'll need an invite to buy one. I mean, the 2, the OnePlus that... There's too much math in this story, Tom. Go to the next one. You just need an invite by the phone. TechCrunch reports that Tumblr has launched TumblrTV showing trending animated GIFs one after the other in a full-screen viewing mode with play, pause, forward, and backward at tumblr.com slash TV. Trending GIFs are determined by a variety of factors, including the freshness of the GIF and recent engagements. They are only pulled from Tumblr itself, but that's okay because Bill Eager, Tumblr product engineer, said GIFs are a core feature of Tumblr. He probably said it with a straight face, too. The next web, one of my favorite sites, because it's the one I'm reporting from over and over, reports that OneWeb has closed a $500 million million funding round to build a satellite system to provide affordable broadband services across the globe. Airbus will build more than 900 satellites for the project, 648 of which will be launched, and the rest kept as spares. OneWeb plans more than 65 launches starting in 2017, including 39 from Virgin Galactic and 21 from Europe's Ariama Space, boy, my reading ability has been hit hard today, including our using Russian-made Soyuz rockets. The project is slated to launch in 2019. Yeah, so add this to SpaceX's plan. We're gonna have a sky full of satellites being on the Internet at us. Yeah, that's pretty exciting, actually, to have that in all sorts of regions, even the remote ones. It's really exciting stuff. And a follow-up, Apple told TechCrunch, quote, we are not removing apps that display the Confederate flag for educational or historical uses. And in fact, they followed up with TechCrunch and said they are working with developers to quickly get their games reinstated to the App Store. So it appears there was a mistake in how they went about netting those apps that they wanted to remove. Yeah, this is obviously a very sensitive subject, and it's one where you have to delicately balance the actual portrayal of this. Are you using it in a historical context where it's meant to educate and to inform? Or are you using it as a means of intimidation or some form of, you know, sort of a racist view? This hits home for me because I live in a state where until, fairly recently, until 2003, we had the Confederate battle flag on our state flag. We no longer have that. We still have the first flag of the Confederacy on our state flag, and it's something that I really want to see addressed at some point where we can not forget about it or cover it up, but move beyond it and keep it in mind to make sure we are guiding ourselves in the right direction. And the tech side of this is it's always tricky when you start to censor where you draw the line, and it's always tricky when you have as vast of an App Store as Apple when you try to net certain things, you will end up accidentally netting other things. And this is not a news story, but this is the most recent example of that. It doesn't seem like Google removed as many or any, I'm not sure, of the historical type games and apps, but we haven't heard any response from them. Time now for some news from you. These come from our subreddit, dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. Get in there and vote. Let us know what stuff you want to hear. There's like around 500, 5000 people actively subscribed. Well, I say actively. They're subscribed to their subreddit, but we'd like you to be active. And if you want to get in there and either submit some links or just vote on the ones that are there. Merely Jim, I bet you're more than that. Merely Jim shared that a senior U.S. official has confirmed to the Daily Beast that attackers access the intimate personal details of government workers found in the adjudication information. It's a file compiled on employees and contractors applying for security clearance. That information includes details about sometimes workers, sexual partners, drug and alcohol abuse, debts, gambling compulsions, marital troubles, any criminal activity. Three former U.S. intelligence officials told the Daily Beast that the adjudication information effectively turns into dossiers on current and former government employees. White House officials previously acknowledged the breach of information found in Standard Form 86, but it wasn't confirmed how extensive that is. I filled out one of these one time. When I was working for Alameda County Search and Rescue, I had to get background clearance because Department of Homeland Security oversaw that. And they asked you to say, let us know anything you think could possibly be an issue. It won't disqualify you from getting clearance, but if we find something that could be an issue that you didn't disclose, that will automatically disqualify you. So these forms will have things that people just think, well, this may be an issue, so I better put it down. I use drugs at this date. I was caught cheating on my wife at this date. I got busted for POTA at this date. And that is the kind of stuff that you might put on these security clearance forms, but you would certainly not go around broadcasting to everyone and could be used to blackmail people or to embarrass them, et cetera. Yeah, and on top of that, the adjudication information includes polygraph tests where people are asked very difficult questions and sometimes you could either be giving off false positives. We all know that polygraph machines are not really reliable when you get down to it, but the point is that those questions and the answers are all part of that file. And this is all about getting those security clearances that you were talking about, Tom, but the higher in security you need to be, the higher clearance you need, the more information they're going to have on you. So the people who are at the most sensitive positions within various governmental agencies are the very ones that the hackers now have the most information about. So this is a catastrophic hacker attack in the sense of how much information we lost. I mean, as the article points out, in previous attacks you could rebuild systems. If a system had been compromised and people knew how it worked, you could strip that down, rebuild it. It would be a lot of work, but you could do it, but you can't rebuild people. Yeah, absolutely. Dylan Northrup in the chat room points out clearance doesn't care about what you did usually, just whether that can be used to compromise you, which makes an attack that steals this kind of data directly opposed to the reason it was collected in the first place. So it is, like you say, very unfortunate and in some cases possibly dangerous that this information was not protected better. Next, Star Fury Zeta sent us this in-gadget report on Audi's partnership with a German team called Part Time Scientists. They're competing in Google's Lunar X Prize. Audi says it's providing four-wheel drive tech as well as expertise in lightweight construction and piloted driving. In return, the rover will now be called the Audi Lunar Quattro Moon Rover. Google's Lunar X Prize offers a $30 million prize for the first team to get a rover to the moon, cover 500 meters of it, and then broadcast high-definition video back to Earth as it goes. More, more, please. More of these kinds of partnerships, more efforts. I can't wait to see this succeed, whether it's the Audi one or something else. Yeah, this is the stuff where you see these kind of... We're in an incredibly exciting time, right? I mean, I often, when I read back on the space race, I think about what it must have been like to have been alive during that. That's before my time, really, is the space race. So, you know, reading the reports, I miss out on that. But then I think I'm now in a time where we're seeing not just privatized space companies that are really pushing some boundaries, but also we're seeing citizen science getting involved in space. And it blows my mind. It's incredibly inspiring to me. Yeah, I grew up as a very young child where moon landings were a regular thing. I was born in 1970. So, you know, there were moon landings happening all the time. And then suddenly when I got old enough to really appreciate them, they stopped. That kind of sucked, which is why I love seeing the fact that even if we're not doing that one monumental task, there are so many interesting things being done on so many other fronts, like you say. And finally, Goal Kick submitted the Ars Technica story clarifying that despite the headlines you will see in almost every major news outlet around the world, two self-driving cars did not almost crash into each other. What did happen was that a Delphi self-driving car was about to change lanes and noticed that another car ahead of it was moving into that lane so it did what you would do. It waited until it was safe to change lanes. The car ahead of it just happened to be a Google self-driving car and that brings us to our main discussion today. John Absmeyer, the head of Delphi Local Lab, was talking to Reuters about this and he told the story and then Reuters wrote it as had a close call on a Silicon Valley street and then not using quotation marks, wrote as the Delphi vehicle prepared to change lanes, a Google self-driving prototype, cut off the Audi forcing it to abort the lanes change, Absmeyer said, although again, not a quote. Kristin Kinley, a Delphi spokeswoman who was at the interview with Reuters clarified to Ars Technica, our car did exactly what it was supposed to. Our car saw the Google car move into the same lane as our car was planning to move into but upon detecting that lane was no longer open, it decided to terminate the move and wait until it was clear again and then Google's Courtney Hohn told Ars Technica, the headline here is that two self-driving cars did what they were supposed to do in an ordinary everyday driving scenario. So Jonathan, why is it so compelling for Time Magazine, CNBC, PC Magazine, the LA Times, the Daily Telegraph to all write, cars almost crash, cars nearly collide when that's not true? Tom, I'm going to give you two headlines. You tell me which one you're going to click on. Okay. Robot cars battle it out on the streets of California or robot car does not collide with other robot car. Yeah, I'll go you one better. The Guardian's actual headline to the Guardian's credit was two self-driving cars avoid each other on California roads. Which is not very compelling, I get it. Yeah, if there were headlines of all the times I avoided people, you would just be, wow, Jonathan really spends a lot of time making sure he doesn't run into folks he doesn't like. No, this was, I am so thankful that there are outlets out there that did the due diligence to see what is the actual story here because I think it really illustrates some important things to keep in mind. One, that autonomous cars are still really amazing and they are on the way. This is a triumphant story because it's a story about how a car was able to recognize that dynamic conditions would mean that it could not do what it had, quote unquote, decided to do and it altered its behavior because of that. That's exactly what's supposed to happen. So that's really exciting. And also, it made me go and look. I was curious because I remember for the longest time we talked about how Google self-driving cars had only been involved in two accidents. That was the story forever, right? There was one where it was under manual control and a person had a little fender bender and there was one where another driver rear-ended a Google self-driving car but in both cases the autonomous car wasn't to blame. That number has skyrocketed. Do you know how many accidents there have been now? I can't remember the exact. We did talk about it before. I want to say 17? No, 11. 11, okay. Yeah. 11 accidents. Out of all the years these self-driving cars have been on the street, there have been 11 accidents. So wait a minute, from 2 to 11, Jonathan, that sounds to me like a six times multiplier, 600% increase in accidents. You know, Tom, I'm not going to dispute your facts there but what I am going to say is that in every case it was not the cars at fault. It wasn't the autonomous car that was at fault in the accidents. But one of the things that I saw is perhaps these cars are being what some people call too safe. That they are designed to avoid accidents to such a great extent that in a few cases they might actually end up causing an accident or at least other people may end up getting in an accident with that car because it's not behaving the way a human being would. Which is really interesting to me. Well, that means we're really learning about that now. It's pretty close to the way my mom drives, honestly. But I know what you mean, which is there's a certain vocabulary, for lack of a better word, to the way people drive. And having lived in multiple places around the US, it's different in different places that people are used to. For instance, in Texas, I never got used to the idea that people just constantly drove on the left side of the freeway even at slow speeds. Whereas in Illinois, we all stay on the right until we pass and then we go around. And so a self-driving car isn't necessarily adapting to that more amorphous, usual way of driving standard that we have. Sure. And some of the examples I've seen one person said, hey, if you're driving in China and you want to take a left turn in a busy pedestrian area, if you're not aggressive, if you don't actually start making your car move out there, people are just going to keep on walking in front of you until the end of time. And a car that is designed to specifically avoid pedestrian accidents at all costs, which makes sense, is never going to move. So there are certain conditions where you kind of, I mean, I hate to say it, but you kind of have to get a little reckless for it to actually work. Well, it's that vocabulary that we're talking about, right? Where you know that when you move forward, you won't hit the pedestrians because you know that the behavior in this location is the pedestrian is waiting to see you move before they will stop and that they will stop. Yeah. And so that becomes a new question. In fact, I'm seeing that there's this emerging study now between the behaviors of these autonomous cars and actual human beings. That's the next nut to crack in the autonomous car behavior because they are demonstrably safer than human drivers in nearly every kind of condition you can come up with except when it comes to these really difficult to define situations where humans can intuitively understand what's going on maybe they don't like it very much, but they understand it, but a machine may not. Is that a temporary problem? I think so. I think it's absolutely... Eventually, the end result, if we get it figured out, is that all the cars or the vast majority of cars in the road are autonomous, in which case they all know how each other's going to act. They don't have to figure out what some random human's going to do. Well, I think even before that, we're going to have some more algorithms that are essentially learning algorithms that will end up being able to interact with human drivers more seamlessly. I've read studies where you don't even need to have a majority of autonomous cars on the road for this sort of benefit to emerge. As low as 20% of the vehicles on the road can be autonomous and you're going to start seeing a decrease in accidents and faster travel times. I'm so excited about this as well, also as being a non-driver, having a car that could potentially drive me around that's not just Uber. Fantastic! That points out to me that most of the issues with autonomous cars have to do with the transition. How do we get to 20% safely? How do we get to a point where we can say, yes, Jonathan Strickland can get into a self-driving car without a license? Now it'd be like, well, you better have a license just in case you have to take over and it causes issue. But eventually I think we get to that point where the cars are driving more safely than us and they're driving themselves more often and you just have to have a very basic notion of what to do in some very unusual emergency situation. The same way you do when you're on a train car, when you're on a subway and it says on the wall, in case of emergency, here are the three things to do. Yeah, in fact, there's largely a philosophical thought experiment that is very popular in AI specifically with autonomous cars, the trolley experiment, everyone's heard about this. The trolley experiment being there's a trolley, it's heading toward disaster, you can save the trolley by throwing a switch but then it's going to kill somebody else. So do you throw the switch killing this other person but everyone on the trolley survives or do you not throw the switch, the person lives but the trolley ends up colliding and people on the trolley could die. The same thing is true when designing an autonomous car. If you design a car, what happens if you're in a situation where there's an oncoming vehicle, perhaps it's lost control and your vehicle has two options, either go to a collision with that oncoming vehicle or swerve into what could possibly be a sidewalk with pedestrians. It's a theoretical scenario but it's one that you actually have to answer and it's not the cut and dry answer. It's hard for us to answer as humans what we would do. It's one thing for us to answer in some sort of on paper exercise and another thing to do face that in person and so having to figure out ahead of time what we think a computer should do in that situation is a thorny issue. But again, it's an edge case and one would hope if we get enough self-driving cars in the road the number of oncoming cars headed straight at other cars would reduce below a rounding error. But yeah, that's a really, really good point. Yeah, and again, I think that these cars are definitely the future. It's one of those things that I'm very much looking forward to for multiple reasons, not just for the selfish reason that I'll be able to get around without having to depend upon other people which would be phenomenal. It would be a big burden off of all of them but also just the benefit of the reduction of accidents, the reduction of people getting injured or the loss of life. That is something that I really am excited about too because despite my grouchy exterior, I like people. You like people on the inside. I do. What would you do? Would you throw the switch? I hate the thought of it, but I would. I'd throw the switch. I want to know who's over there. Do you also want to know who's in the trolley? Yeah, I want all the information before I make a call. You want to conduct a survey first. Is it Neil deGrasse Tyson over there? It's a whole different situation. That's already got the chat room talking. I just stop and go backwards. I'm in there already. There's someone behind you. You can't stop and go backwards, which is how that works. It is a very thought-provoking thought experiment. And apropos. Let's get to our pick of the day. Marlon, the guy from Trinidad, wrote in and said, my pick of the day is Jonathan Strickland because it's his birthday. Happy birthday, Mr. Strickland from Trinidad and Tobago. Thank you. I was worried it was a spoiler by putting it in there. And then we also had Jenny notice that Stephen Colbert's new Colbert app, C-O-L-B-R, and the accompanying podcast is going strong. The app is iOS only, but all the content also lands on ColbertLateShow.com. It's the podcast that Jenny loves because it's a look inside the ramp up for the Late Show launch in September 8th, and it's not just all the jokes that you see in the videos. After all the years of hearing Stephen Colbert the character, talk as a writer and comedian, speaking with his longtime creative collaborators, the podcast is also available solo, wherever you subscribe to podcasts. You might want to check that out. She said to me on Slack earlier, it's the closest thing to being inside a writer's room that you can get without actually being inside a writer's room. I just jumped in just to tell you that it's pretty incredible and it's also really smart of Stephen Colbert to transition himself from what we know him as before to what he's going to be on the Late Show and if you want to listen to that process evolve, you're going to love it. ColbertLateShow.com. There's a T in Colbert though. Remember that. Send your picks to feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. You can find my picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks. A couple of emails before we're out of here. Nate from the Windy West bench. Did he write bench of the Salt Lake Valley? I guess that's the thing. Or it's a typo that I don't know what it was supposed to be. The Windy West bench of the Salt Lake Valley. He was like, it was great to hear you cover John Brodkin's piece on Vivint. I live in one of the first neighborhoods where they rolled out wireless broadband service a couple of years back. When their salesmen stopped by, I signed up right away eager to have an alternative to Comcast. I experienced those early stability problems Brodkin mentions in the articles and I couldn't keep my home connected to the hub home even though I was right across the street so I ended up having to go back to Comcast. Because their technicians couldn't solve my connectivity issues though Vivint had no problem letting me out of my two-year contract and my neighbors who serve as hub home report that the 28 gigahertz connections they have are pretty stable so if they improve the 5 gigahertz home-to-home connections they've got a viable service on their hands and Brodkin's article implies that they've been making software updates constantly. Nate says, even though I didn't stick with Vivint myself when I called Comcast to sign back up I told the rep I was in a neighborhood that had Vivint and I was able to negotiate a comparable price on my new service. Yay for competition! Did you read about Vivint, Jonathan? No, I had not heard about this until I just, you know, read the email. That's really an interesting approach one that I would welcome in my own service area. Yeah, if they can work out the kinks and make it more reliable which it sounds like they were making progress on and Vivint themselves said, yeah, when we first rolled it out we were running into all kinds of reliability issues but we think we've nailed them down and we're fixing them. That could become a really interesting way to bring another ISP very easily without having to dig up the ground into lots of neighborhoods. Yeah, it's a really innovative approach. I think it's pretty cool. And Jonathan Strickland is willing to serve as a hub home Vivint to get free internet for life. Got a beautiful rooftop. It's fantastic. You do. I just want to compliment you on your rooftop that is just waiting for three antennas from Vivint to sit atop it. I'll be able to see where you are staying when you come to DragonCon from my rooftop. From your rooftop. I'll be at your house if you get Vivint. I'll use that internet. Aperva commented on our blog at DailyTechNewShow.com about an LA Times story which describes how drone flyers have been disrupting firefighting efforts in Big Bear Lake. Essentially what happens is, you know, in Big Bear they see drones in the air and they don't know what they're going to do and they don't want to endanger their pilots so they turn around and fly back. Aperva says this is an example of a consequence that is ignored or quickly dismissed by drone enthusiasts pushing the FAA to rush rules for allowing more drones. While the early enthusiasts might be involved and know all the rules, most new users will not be as responsible. The vast majority that will take this up as prices drop will be knuckleheads. This is a legal term now. We're ruling regarding a man who pointed a laser to plane who will not know the rules or care. Their first thought will be, won't it be cool if I could get an aerial video of the forest fire? And it is a definitely a fair problem, Aperva. My personal reaction though is that this is more of a reason to get those rules nailed down because right now it is legal for anyone to go fly a quadcopter and the rules are in flux. People may not want to look up the rules like you're saying, but they also will see like, oh, the rules haven't been nailed down yet and interpret that to mean there are no rules. Yeah. This is what happens when technology outpaces the legal system which happens all the time is that we come into situations sometimes life or death ones that really paint the picture that we need to sit down and work out a framework on when things are allowable when they aren't so that we can avoid this kind of stuff. Anyway, the FAA is working to put these rules in place. The rush on them has been that they had missed deadlines that they said they were going to hit. It does sound like they're going to have the rules by the end of the year and the knuckleheads don't care if the FAA rushes the rules or not. The knuckleheads are out there flying those drones around fires anyway without working with the firefighters to make sure that they're clear of any areas and not causing any distraction. I don't know that putting the rules in place faster or not really affects those people. In fact, like I said, I think it actually could help if the rules were nailed down so that folks could educate others and maybe try to keep the knuckleheads at bay. But a perva, thank you for that. It was a really insightful comment and I appreciate you posting it up on the blog. You can do that at DailyTechNewsShow.com Well, thank you, Jonathan Strickland. Pleasure, as always, man. It's good talking tech with you. Oh, it's fun to be here talking tech, science. It's the stuff that I get excited to get out of bed in the morning for. We were lucky to have some good sciency things to put in there as well. And if you like those kinds of stories and if you like those kinds of explanations of how things work, go check out howstuffworks.com check out the tech stuff podcast, forward thinking. Jonathan's doing all kinds of cool stuff. Yeah, I'm even on a show with yesterday's guest, Ayaz. But that's not where you're going to learn how stuff works other than how we don't work. That's called podcast without pretense. Yeah, it's a podcast without pretense, back-to-back special on DailyTechNewsShow. And I believe am I remembering this wrong or did Ayaz say you guys got an episode coming up soon? We do have an episode coming up soon. We like to watch really bad movies on Netflix and test how long we can watch them with no distractions present. Because we're all aware that when we watch stuff at home, we usually have a computer. Second screen thing going on. No second screens are allowed. You write down how far you got. And then we discuss the movie. We're now adding a new feature. We review the movie in voice to text. We copy that transcription over into Google Translate translated a few times and that becomes the official review of the movie. That's amazing. That's artificial intelligence right there. Well, that's the only guy we have. Twitter.com Jon Strickland, J-O-N-S-T-R-I C-K-L-A-N-D and Len Peralta. You have been busily illustrating this show. What have you come up with? Well, you know, I wanted to do something nice because it is our friend Jon Strickland's birthday today. I hope I did something good here and I'm trying to mash up today's topic, the self-driving cars and Jon's birthday. This is how I envision Jon Strickland planning on spending his birthday. Of course, you just have to add more ladies to this picture. Self-driving cars. It's Jon Strickland playing what looks to be a video game of self-driving cars and he's saying self-driving cars. The strict man is a real horsepower behind the wheel suckers That's what's going to happen. It's your new job there, Jon. So, happy birthday to you. I love it. I love it so much. You have to go and check it out. There you go. Happy birthday, Jon. Thank you. LenPeraltaStore.com to see what Len comes up with and of course, if you back him on Patreon, you get digital versions of this stuff just given to you if you back at the right level. Patreon.com slash Len. Thank you so much. It is coming up in a second. I almost jumped ahead because the most important people to thank in every episode is the bosses that make this possible. We have 5,052 of them now and we thank every single one that they saw some value in the show and gave some value back. You guys are the best. DailyTechnewshow.com slash support if you want to know how to become a boss if you're getting some value out of the show and you'd like to give us some value back there's many ways to do it if you're not a patron that's okay. 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They talked about the near miss of the cars and we're like saying really it's the journalism sort of near missing. Oh, I get it. I like it. I'm always so sensitive about journal. Like who's beating up on journalism? We've got the thin pad from Tinbeck. Comb the fiber. I like that. One plus two does not equal three. Oh, I really like pow to the moon, Audi. To the moon, Audi. You're all so good. I know. And a lot of them are tied. So go if you're watching live showbot.tv. Get in there and make some votes. Do it. Oh my gosh. Self driving Kobayashi Maru test. Are you kidding? That's so amazing. I don't believe in the no win scenario. I don't believe in the near miss scenario. The trolley car near miss scenario. I don't believe in the trolley car scenario. I will save them all. I am Captain Kirk. I'm going to say I might need to start live streaming tech stuff because coming up with titles is after you've recorded a show you're like my creativity is all gone. Yeah, because like talked about cars. Fire bad tech stuff part two. It was actually a discussion of GE, but you know. I like doubling the speed of light. Yeah. It's not accurate, Tinvec, but I understand metaphorically what you mean. The speed of light is actually a constant. Only in a vacuum. That's true. That's true. We're not in a vacuum. It's a fair point. Fair point. It's through various media. It changes speed. Yeah. I just did a horror digging episode about how photons can actually have momentum. Self driving Kobayashi Maru test. Are you just voting over and over, Jenny? No, you can't. You actually can't. No, I know. Actually it's pretty good at stopping that. Wow. Yeah. To the top. To the moon. Self driving Kobayashi Maru test. I think that might be our winner. It's good. I'm done exporting. So that is now the title. Self driving Kobayashi Maru test. I'm always in favor of the Star Trek Brother Con reference. From the center of a dead planet. Very good. Come on. My favorite. Actually there was someone who wrote the line for me and they had me deliver it in the Ricardo Montoban way where I was this was one of the few shows where I actually used a teleprompter. So I think it was what the stuff and the line was it's very cold in space. Oh. Oh. Russ Pitts and I used to do Wrath of Con Theater on our sketch comedy show. That's awesome. We just have the one Kirk Con interaction scene as if played by the cast of Seinfeld or Ah. Can we bring that back? Cause that sounds amazing. Sure. Just get Russ to sign off. Oh my goodness. Yeah it was good. I'm not saying we performed it as optimally but I love the idea. That is great. The theater I love so much here the stage theater I love so much they had a show a couple years ago called Wrath of Con the musical but it was C-O-N and it was kind of a send up love letter to Dragon Con specifically but it was amazing. It was so good. That's fantastic. Yeah. There was a part where the hotel staff has a meeting and they're treating it like they're going into war because of all these geeks that are going to descend upon the hotel. The hotel manager is like the drill sergeant that'll jack it as he's walking down addressing a staff and one of the actors plays a brand new employee it's his first weekend on the job the same weekend that Dragon Con comes to the hotel and later in the play they find him and he's mangled on the floor and they're trying to ask him what happened so they're having the really heart-rending death scene in your war movie type thing going on and the sergeant's like what happens? I was in the middle of a Star Trek argument they asked me who's my favorite captain Kirk or Picard I said I like them both and the sergeant's like the Jane Ways came out of nowhere and it was that line the Jane Ways came out of nowhere that I was like this is the most brilliant play I've ever seen that is amazing God, there's so much amazing art that goes on that we'll never get to see even with the internet I wish I could find a way to just live cast that this is a good thing we have copyright law to protect people right to Picard it's why I go to so much live theater here in Atlanta I love the ephemeral nature of it of course if I'm ever in a nice dark corner that no one can see maybe I'll just periscope the next play oh yeah it's like a snapchat of performance I like that we said it at the same time Jinx! you owe me a coke alright well I won't see you guys next week so have a happy four have a happy independence day weekend yes it's going to be very busy or as I call it change of dependence day when we illegally separated from the crown you would I mean you gotta be different I'm not saying the united states shouldn't exist I just think they should have gone through the proper channels I'm kidding sort of by the way before I go I just want to show everybody who is watching in the live stream that here's Scott Sigler's Picard oh nice just remind people you can get these cards at my online store for all the star.com just ordered some for who is he supposed to be oh snap I've got that in my office at home who was he supposed to be he wanted to be Joffrey or those made by loan shark games they were the game is called epic vs awesome which isn't even out yet but it will be out soon and these are the expansions set for it so wow alright man thanks for being here as always you too thank you so much everybody and happy birthday John I hope you enjoyed that thanks Lynn I loved it I did I'm always such a thrill to me whenever anyone who has artistic ability wastes it on me it's fantastic I like to think that I put it out into the ether just let it out it is much appreciated well great you have a nice day with your ladies tomorrow and enjoy the weekend everybody be safe alright alright hi Lynn I'm doing show notes I'm pacing oh Roger's here I see Roger Chang Roger I'm doing the show notes what's he doing I just saw him show up in the dock oh in the dock I don't see him in the hangout though yeah I'm doing show notes and posting posts do we still have a John Strickland here yes I'm out of the pictures he's thinking about his birthdays all his birthday parties I was going back and looking at the chat realm because I forgot that I had it up and I was just re-experiencing everyone's feedback I do that sometimes myself I'm like whoa boy I really was dumb wasn't I okay everyone's really super awesome I love the community here it's fantastic good peeps and we say that off the air too we actually I'm really impressed forward thinking has been very fortunate with that too because that's largely a YouTube community but it is one of the most thoughtful communities I've seen on YouTube we get our share of folks who come in just to post first or they posted something if they don't like a particular topic they're not shy about it but for the most part people have been really thoughtful because I was worried at first about having to moderate YouTube comments but I don't have to moderate anything it's all done pretty well yeah it's really awesome yeah no I've seen other communities that have some they require a lot more active moderation and all communities are different that's my experience I've been involved in communities that need a lot of intervention I've been involved in others that just don't get going at all they just don't really get any momentum and all kinds in between I did a show I did a special video for how stuff works that was about me so it was about professional wrestling and I love professional wrestling so I was thrilled I got to go behind the scenes I got to go under the ring I got to talk to wrestlers it was fantastic but going into that I knew the comments on that were going to be a slightly different set than the forward thinking comments still really awesome people for the most part but yeah very different very alive vibrant commentary I've called a jabroni by more than one person so the strict man by the way is the name of Len's drawing today it's so amazing oh great preview oh no wait go back no I'm talking I am talking to myself sorry I'm doing show notes out loud it's okay I am I am actually out of the post now ooh I know what to do yeah I can get right in there we're going to get a jump on the weekend we're going to get a jump on a weekend but stay tuned for current geek with Scott Johnson of myself later today immediately following the Jonathan Strickland hour of karaoke power