 As I would request everyone to mute themselves so that we don't have echo during the meeting and please use the chat box to ask any questions during presentation and we would be answering all of them at the end of the presentation. So, we have the symbols from mute and chat shown over here if you have any questions. And we'll go ahead and start the meeting. So, I welcome everyone this evening and thank you for taking time to join the meeting. So, we are here today to go over the meeting for WJ Bose at Bob and Robert's meeting round about. And I'm Shwetha Rao, I'm with CTO for TPW and I'm the project manager on this project. The design engineer for this project is Jenna associates and we'll be going over the scope. And the details about this project today. So, this is our brief agenda for the presentation today. We will be going over the project location and provide some background on what the existing site conditions are and why the project was selected. For intersection improvements and what are the proposed improvements at this location and why was around about selected for this location and what our construction schedule looks like and what are the generally frequently questions on such kind of projects. So, we have put together a few questions that we generally receive on similar kind of projects. So, we will be going over those at the end of the presentation. So, coming to the project location. WJ Bose at Bob and Robert's intersection. It's located in between four major arterials. We have water abroad on the West. The city was well on the North Marine Creek Parkway on the East and Cromwell Marine Creek Road on the South. So, both WJ Bose, it connects the East West arterials and Bob and Robert's connects the North South. So, coming to the project background, the intersection is currently operating at a two way stop control interest as a two way stop control intersection and it has kind of a skewed geometry. I'll switch between the slide and the next one. So, this is the area image that shows the existing geometry of the intersection. As we can see that it's not a perpendicular or perpendicular intersection. It has skewed geometry and that's the reason it gets some unsafe conditions for the drivers. And it doesn't provide enough side distance for people coming southbound on Bournemouth Roberts as well as people trying to turn East on the Bournemouth Roberts going north. So, one of the reasons to select this project was the unsafe geometry as well as the unsafe speeding. We had multiple crashes at this project site. When we pulled out the accident data, we had 11 crashes all during daytime between 2017 to 2019 on this project. So, other than that, we are experiencing high congestion during peak hours and there's a lot of delay caused due to the two way stop sign and that's one of the reasons to select this project for intersection improvements. So, our major goal with this project was to improve safety and operation at the center section and we have selected a mini roundabout to meet this project goals. We will also be improving roadway paving and drainage as a part of this project. The project is funded using 14 bonds and the construction estimate for this project is around 500,000. So, as you can see picture the intersection has a skewed geometry and that creates unsafe conditions. It doesn't provide enough side to side distance for the drivers to navigate properly to throw the intersection and it results in multiple crashes and accidents and creates unsafe conditions at this intersection. So, this is the proposed improvement that our design engineer and we as a city are proposing at this location. It's a mini roundabout. It's similar to our conventional roundabout, but property that a mini roundabout, I mean property that distinguishes it from a conventional roundabout is the fully traversable Central Island. So large vehicles like trucks, buses and trailers who traverse over this Central Island and use it as a kind of a path to navigate through the intersection. So coming to the roundabout selection on why exactly we have selected a mini roundabout for this intersection. The first thing is obviously our main concern at this intersection was safety. So to increase safety at this intersection, we have selected a roundabout as roundabout to be the safest at great intersection type and with the traffic traversing through the roundabout in a unidirectional way. We have, I mean, it reduces the number of crashes at the intersection. And it also eliminates the T1 crashes that that are the most kind of high risk accidents. So, even if we have any accident at the intersection, it would be minus vendors and it won't be any major accident. Roundabout also eliminates the awkward geometry of the intersection and it will also reduce the delay caused due to stop control. And it's also safe when compared to signal intersections where we are using the yield or permitted left and lanes, left and movements. So, like I said, it reduces the amount of T1 crashes at the intersection. And it operates more efficiently under high volumes versus the traditional stop or signal traffic signal control intersection. So we also did a traffic signal warrant analysis for this intersection. So we compared both roundabout as well as traffic signal to see which one would operate better for this location. And considering the traffic operations, both of them tend to show equally positive results. But considering the safety, we felt that the roundabout was safer alternative when compared to a traffic signal. Because one of the things was the left turn lanes and with the current geometry where we have only single lane going in each direction, providing a yield or permitted left turn would increase. I will cause delays more delays for those turning moments. And it would also make the intersection more unsafe with cause of more T1 accidents. So that was one of the concerns with the signal intersection and to improve operations with the traffic signal alternative, we would have to include additional left and lanes for the left turn movements. And that would have increased the project cost. Then what it actually is coming to the project schedule. The easement acquisition at this location is complete and we are currently waiting on utility relocation from AT&T and charter to start the construction. So we will be executing a construction task order with our contractor in February of 2021 and we would start construction as soon as we have the utilities out of our way. So we are currently anticipating early spring for the start of construction and the duration would be around 6 months. So no else chances from our from the pain group would be the point of contact for our contractor and myself from city of footwork would be the contact for. We will be the project manager contact for the project. So coming to the last part of the presentation, the frequently asked questions. So the first question that we generally receive it almost every meeting is will the, will there be road closures during construction and if so what would be the detour or how would be the route. So what will the detour like. So we haven't finalized the traffic control for this construction yet, but we would be provided access through the intersection. And someone is mute the microphone. Sorry. So we would have continuous access through the intersection and one or the other and we would update everyone before we are ready to start construction on the detour if we have any. The second one was why was the roundabout selected. So like I said, it was the safest alternative for a skewed intersection and that is what we found to be the safest option to reduce the number of crashes. And to eliminate the site distance issue and also to increase the operations at this intersection. We also have more details on the roundabout benefits of off roundabouts on both witnesses.gov slash roundabouts. So, another question for that we generally receive on intersection projects is about the sidewalk connectivity. So we are not including any sidewalk as a part of this project right now because there's no connectivity both on the bridge boards as well as form and rubbish. So, even if we install sidewalks, it would be kind of in between nowhere and it wouldn't provide connectivity to any of the next roads. But the bridge was wrote is a potential candidate for 2022 bond program. So, if that gets selected we would have sidewalks as a part of that project. And the last one is will the project impact access to the adjacent properties. So currently we have three properties at this intersection. The only property that has access right now is the one on the southwest corner. And we will be providing them continuous access. We won't be closing off the access to that property at any point of time. So, I think that is all. Just let me know if you have any questions and we will be happy to. Looks like we have a question here. Will this impact the repayment of form and rubbish scheduled for February? Actually, I'm not sure about the pavement project right now. I'll check that and I'll get back with you if I have any update on that. So, our next question is how does the mini roundabout account for WJ Bose, which is classified as a neighborhood collector for the city master thoroughfare plan in the future. But WJ Bose is improved. I believe neighborhood collectors are two lengths in each direction. Let me answer that question. So this mini roundabout is an interim improvement. That that is, you know, it's intended to be there for like possibly the next three to five years. WJ Bose. There's no, there's no plans to, to, to widen WJ Bose. But there is plans to. Now, bum and Robert's, there's no plans to widen bum and Robert's at this time, but WJ Bose, it is in the bond program to actually four lanes. So. If the project is selected and funded with the 2022 bond program, I believe that the budget for that project is in the 30, around 30 million dollars. So it won't be, it will probably rebuild this intersection. And at that point, it might be the traditional intersection. Because this cube will be eliminated because the right way will be realigned. So the mini roundabout it is an interim improvement for safety. That is desperately needed. And it's, it's, it's a three to five year improvement. There's a strong chance that WJ Bose will be in the 2022 bond program. And that is completely going to rebuild and realign WJ Bose. Thank you, Lisa. So Frank said that the southbound lane is scheduled to be repaved. Frank, I'll check with our team and not sure about this project and I'll get back with you. If you could leave a contact information over there on chat, I'll get back with you after the meeting on that. So just as additional information, we are recording this meeting and we will be sending it out to all the neighborhood associations and we will be posting it on the project website. If you want to share it with someone or just circulate it around. Thank you for providing the contact information. Do we have any further questions? There's a few more questions on the chat box. Are the lanes on a mini roundabout wide enough for school buses. The mini roundabout is fully traversable so the school buses can go right across. The very, the, the, the little doom. So, yes, the buses will be able to just go right across the, the center island. Project schedule is early spring for duration of 6 months. That's correct. We're hoping to, because we're going to build this with asphalt and a little bit of concrete, you know, we can, we can do work a little bit faster. So, yes, we're hoping to accomplish that in 6 months. And then he says, we did not receive notice of the meeting until today. I believe we mailed Jeff. Can you, can you talk about our mailing and notifications, et cetera? Sure. Absolutely. Ryan, I would like to hear. How you've got what notification you got today. I'm curious. How what that was, but we did send out a couple of weeks ago printed mailers with invitations. It's been. It was sent out through next door and out on our social media. We have a lot of various options, but I really want to know from. Yeah, Jeff, this is Ryan Smith. I'm president of the Northwest Alliance and this wasn't sent to any of the neighborhood leaders or the alliance until today. So that's generally sent. Many days in advance. So it was sent out. You know, this morning, as Frank said, I think you would have a lot more. A lot more participation and probably comments on this, if it was sent out on the proper notice to the to the leaders in the neighborhood. Because we didn't have time to get it to, you know, to all our homeowners. So there are concerns here. Number 1, you guys are counting on this being included in the in the bond package in 2022 and the chances of that happening are slim. And TPW even gave us a. A presentation at the alliance and, you know, that's the chances of that happening are not good. So. I guess I would like to see if that doesn't happen. Are we really planning for. You know, longer than 3 to 5 years is just the right plan. Can somebody answer that? Sure, Ryan, we can believe that we do the traffic study and we have a horizon year for the traffic study. And I believe that that is, you know, I think that it's a 5 year horizon date is the 5 year. We can probably do, you know, a little bit projection and take a look at a 10 year. To determine that I am in the community that is working the 2022 bond program and the runway is still on the top 9 identify projects. And actually we're we're we're playing on doing like a project submittal for the town county bond. And include that the project as part of that. So. I will, I will, you know, confirm the information that was presented to you guys previously, but. I just had a meeting about 2022 bond program this afternoon. Where we were still discussing publish the process as a strong candidate. So. Because we're we're going to apply for funding from the for the for the for the town county bond. Okay. So, but we can certainly look at, you know, we can extend our horizon for the traffic study and look at what a 10 year will look like. Yeah. The said, I got some other comments with that. Bowman Roberts is not even on the thoroughfare plan for for worth. Are you aware of that? Yes, I was talking about W. J. Bowes. Sorry about that. Okay, but you're talking about that intersection of W. J. Bowes and Bowman Roberts and. It's Bowman Roberts itself is not even on the thoroughfare plan. We brought that up many times to the city of Fort Worth. Countless times. And also. Our concerns here, you're developing a, you know, maybe a plan for three to five years. We've been promised in this area and why we have concerns is. You may be saying right now that this is included in the bond package, but then last minute. Other projects were pulled prior and sent elsewhere. So. That's pro partially why our roads in this area are in such horrible shape. His bond money was pulled in this area. So. I think we would. Like I said, originally, I think. You would have more participants if this was brought to the leaders. And this isn't aligning with everything that was told to the alliance a few weeks ago. Okay. Well, I believe Jeff that we reach out to the neighborhood, our neighborhood coordinator. So we can send information to the next door to all the neighborhood associations in this area. Meringue Creek Ranch and Meringue Creek Hills, et cetera. So we can, we can certainly do another, another call out and. And, and distribute the information I just saw from my consultant that we did obtain your horizon traffic study. So we can provide the results of that. The truth of the matter is that we're using 2014 boundaries to just to do this project because it was it was. It was such a high safety, you know, concerned. And this is a support also of our vision to the strategy of eliminating, you know, high impact crushes and high injury and fatality. So even if it was an improvement to be there for 5 years or 10 years, it still is taking that safety concern that we definitely need to improve this intersection. So it's definitely something that needs to be done. Now, in terms of, you know, a bomb on Robert's not being in the message for a plan. That is something to be discussed with, you know, our development department and determining, you know, you know, here real quick David minutes from Marine Creek Ranch. We've been bringing up when Robert's on the master being left off the master thoroughfare plan for around 8 years. And we keep hearing the same thing. We'll look at it. We'll check it out. We'll look at it. Then I bring up crash studies. I said, Hey, you aware that there are 4 crashes in that. Bend on Bumman Roberts repeatedly. That happened. And I got was unless the police are called. They don't report it. They don't go in their statistics. Well, the police were called ambulance was called. We've had people jump over that rail that rail needs constant repair because it keeps getting hit. And it does not meet text dot safety standards when it exceeds an angle. I believe it's what greater than 10 degrees off center. If I'm, I'm correct on that and I maybe misquoting. So you have a huge problem that you keep ignoring. Now we're looking at a 3 to 5 year plan for a place that has not had any attention to it in the last 10 years. I think that's very short sighted plus we're depending on bond money that's not even guaranteed, which we keep getting not guaranteed. So, I'm sorry for not very enthusiastic about a plan that does a lot of maybes and probabilities and we'll look into that. Well, I understand, but however, this is just an intersection improvement project that says the program that we're managing. You know, valley concerns about, you know, Bob on Roberts and all I can say is that. You know, we can follow up with the folks that handle, you know, the master through plan classification and. And the planning for Bob on Roberts. All I can tell you is that this is part of the intersection improvement program, which is a separate program. Yes, yes, so for pedestrian traffic. Yeah, for pedestrian traffic, there's a plan that that that's also not included with these. There's a plan that the city officials are working on for the school district. To provide, you know, pedestrian routes, you know, throughout the robot network. And that's separate from this project. There's no, there's no current plan. Well, I, all I'm saying is that I am aware that there was a meeting with the school district. And I even have heard our assistant city manager, Miss Dana Birdoff, you know, speak about this where I believe that several departments are looking at. How to improve the entire roadway network in this area. So that's what I'm saying that, you know, WB both is a strong candidate for the bond. Of course, all the projects right now for the bond, you know, the guarantee, but. All I can say is related information that I have the master through for plan, you know, it's updated. It goes through a rigorous process to be updated. And there's a lot of things that take into account for that. That's not in my in my purview of of of inference or expertise. All I can do is forward that the concerns to the folks that are responsible for that. I also am aware that the request came to for that band to the south, to the south of Cumberland Creek on Bumman Robert. So I believe that they're, they're evaluating that as part of the neighborhood improvement plan program. Because Bumman Roberts, it's not an arterial or a bank collector is considered a neighborhood street. So I understand the frustrations. All I can tell you is that there's a whole. I don't think you do understand the frustrations because I do, but, but it's a neighborhood street. Can I finish please? Can I finish? Yes, I understand. I live in this neighborhood. So I understand completely. I drive through this road. Almost daily. So I do understand. All right. I live in Marine Creek Ranch and my granddaughter goes to Greenfield Elementary and I drive through this roadways every single day. So, believe me, I do understand what I'm trying to communicate is that unfortunately tonight we're here just to talk about this intersection improvement project. And, and, and we can communicate the concerns about all these other issues to the, to all the other departments and all the other programs that that handle those particular issues. Okay. I cannot alter the master transfer plan. I cannot. You know, all I can do is just to focus on the various different programs. And this is part of the intersection improvement program. Okay. That's about this project directly. Okay. You have no, no crosswalks. In this intersection. Exactly, because in order to install crosswalk at this intersection, we will have to have connectivity for sidewalks and installing those handicap brands without being able to connect that was to anything. It's not safe. Okay. So, so that's what the plan for sidewalks in the future. The, the overlay plan for sidewalks in the future is being looked at by another department by our department, but another division. Basically, so, so we have another department, transportation management, who is responsible for our sidewalk city program and for the vision, zero program. And they are looking at these entire area based on the discussions in the minutes with the school district and the, and the neighborhood leaders for these particular area. So that's what I'm saying. They're developing a plan of how can we incorporate elements of the of the sidewalk pieces and that way networks into the bond. So we're looking at the 22 bond and there's a lot of different programs that are part of the bond. So there's an arterial program and they're looking at the main through affairs only. There's a neighborhood street program and they're only looking at neighborhood streets. There's an intersection improvement program and they're looking at that. There's a sidewalk program and they're looking at that. So there's all these different programs that, that every one of us is developing. And we still are having to go through the public input phase to solidify, you know, the 22 and 21 programs as well. So, so for this particular project, it didn't make any sense for us to be able to just install at a ramp to that don't connect to anything. Because the roadways don't have curve and gutter. Now, let me finish explaining the roadways don't have curve and gutter. They have open ditches. They have to be reconstructed in order for you to be able to install sidewalks that that actually take you to another street to connect to something. So, you know, the main focus of this project is to provide safety improvements to eliminate crashes and improve side distance. So that's what this project, it's, it's, it's created and that's what the objective of this particular project are for. So, let's say how, how, how are the students supposed to cross this intersection from Boswell High School. The students are. We did with the studies are here. And maybe it didn't dawn away can provide information about that. The students right now, there's not a whole lot of petitions out there because there's no facilities there. So the way that they're getting across now is the way that they will get across when the mini roundabout is in place. Actually, the mini roundabout slows the speeds and allows better side distance. So if there's actually pedestrians done to get across, they can get across. But if they're getting across there now with the existing conditions, they will be able to get across with the mini roundabout gets there. So you've seen all the wrecks at the roundabout Marine Creek Parkway and. Carl Marine Creek, where there's definitely a still an issue with understanding how roundabout works. This roundabout is going to be right next to the high school where now you have new, new drivers who are unexperienced with a roundabout either. Is there any roundabout training that's going to be involved, maybe some, you know, yes, we are. We are going to we're going to schedule meetings with the high schools. We're going to. You know, try to present to the school. We're going to talk to the bus drivers. The, the, the Marine Creek Marine Creek Parkway roundabout still has some accidents. They're minor fender vendors. They're not severe crashes and and the traffic. It's been alleviated, you know, considerably compared to the pre-existing conditions of the roundabout. So this run, this intersection is going to operate at much lower speeds that what the Marine Creek and Marine Parkway roundabouts. Those were designed where the entities were still around 30 miles an hour. And now we're, we're, we're designing for much slower space underneath 25 miles an hour. So we, you know, we're, we're going to do everything that we came to, to reach out to the schools and to. And to the police department and, you know, get their support and everything. I don't just mean education for roundabouts at the school level. We need it at the adult level. People are unaware of how to use a roundabout. Some people are and some people still yield in the middle of the roundabout. There needs to be some kind of education on this is how you use a roundabout. We, we did a public, you know, outreach, you know, a few years back. We developed educational videos. We developed brochures. We distributed to every public meeting that we attended to. And we did a study. We recently conducted a study, which I can provide a copy of. Actually, we just completed a few minutes ago where we look at at least 10 of our roundabouts right here in Fort Worth. And we compare them to, you know, how do I know how are they operating in terms of, you know, crash predictions to and compare them to about 28 traffic signals. And the study concluded that the roundabouts are operating at a better than the national level in terms of crashes. And of course, the crashes are a lot less severe and the number is still less than a traffic signal. So I understand that there might be still, you know, some people that are not, you know, you know, sure about how to drive the roundabouts. But the study indicates that our drivers, the majority of our drivers are, you know, getting how to drive the roundabouts and they're operating better than the national standard. So I can provide a copy of that study. That's great. Let's, let's say I have a question. Have most of your study, when have most of your studies been done? Is it the last year or is it prior? No, no, no. We completed the study last year. And we looked at the previous three years roundabouts that have been in the ground for at least three years here in Fort Worth. So the traffic studies in that area where they done in the last year during COVID or prior? Oh, we collected the traffic study prior to COVID. Okay. Lisa, we understand that you, you know, you're just doing your job here. There's just frustration in this area. We've been promised things for years here. Personally, I've lived here since 2005. And it's just always, oh, the next bond, the next bond, the next bond, and it never happens. And that answer isn't good enough anymore. And you know, we got screwed out of the, this current bond with Cormoran Creek when it was removed. The same thing with both WJ Boaz and Bailey Boswell. They were removed from the bond the last minute in order to provide other services up at the Heritage Traits area. So we're glad you're making a three to five year plan. Yes. We're glad when you make you're making. Right. We're glad you're making improvements here, but I understand that three to five year plan isn't good enough anymore. Because this is going to be around a lot longer than that. I understand. I understand the frustration. I, like I said, I have lived here since 1995 in the Marine Creek area. I'm in the Marine Creek area. I have all the history. I have worked for the city for 26 years. So I know the history about, you know, the 2018 bond and the last minute changes. And I, I, I agree with you. I show you frustrations. All I can tell you is that we were listening and we're trying to, we're trying to make improvements, including the 2022 bond. I don't think that, that we, we have, I don't, that leadership is, is going to ignore your, your, your concerns or complaints. I have heard even the, like I said, that my assistant city manager, you know, make a definite commitment that, you know, this area, we have to make improvements in this area. And we have to, you know, we're committed to include improvements in this area in the, in the sub coming bond. So this, this project, however, it is just, it's part of the intersection improvement program for the city where we select intersections to make improvements. And sometimes the improvements are interim improvements until the permanent solution can get there. Okay. That is just, that's just what this program is about. Okay. But I, but I will, I will pass all of these concerns. We will summarize all the concerns from the meeting. And then we will, we will forward those up to to leadership and the other divisions and the other departments. And, you know, if there's any additional information that we can provide, we're, we're here for you. We're here to. I mean, I was the one who wanted to have an additional meeting. We already had a meeting for this a few months back and we didn't get any response. And that's why I wanted to have another meeting. So, and we spent a lot of time and a lot of funds, you know, mailing sending mailers out to all of the property owners in this area and contacting the schools and everything. So I don't know why the information is not getting out there to anyone got your information. Lucette, Lucette, the city makes it every H away that they make it a big deal where they register and with the alliance and so they can send out information that just that hasn't happened in a timely manner. Proceeding this information at 9am on the day I was not acceptable. And I have to rewind. Yeah. Hey, Ryan, this is Jeff. Yeah. I'm muted. Ryan, this is Jeff. I'm going to look into why you didn't get notification a little sooner. I mean, you should have gotten that a couple of weeks ago. Jeff, you might talk to Matty about that. She's aware of it. So if you want to give her tomorrow. If there were, if there were mailers that went out to residents, no one got the mailers. I mean, it's not just me. I talked to, you know, a couple dozen people a day and, you know, more than 100 a day on a food truck day. We're not within that mailing on this project. It's, yeah, it's, we wouldn't get the mailing, but we would get the email. So you get the email, but no email either. Right. Yeah. I mean, the mailing, the mailing was delivered on January 9th. But yeah, if you guys are a little outside of the range on that mailing, you would, it would have been electronic. But, but still, you shouldn't have got it well before this morning. Thanks, Jeff. Absolutely. And I mean, please take back to, you know, the higher up to city manager everybody else that the, the banking on the 2022 bond is only the bond passes. And if the bond doesn't have support, it doesn't pass and the support numbers for a bond are extremely low. And in Marine Creek Ranch, we have more than enough votes to vote down a bond. And that's just the facts of it all is that this whole Northwest area has repeatedly been forgotten about by the city for the last 20 years. It is getting the point to where it's almost like it's on purpose. Everything goes to heritage trace. Everything goes inside the loop and we get forgotten about. And it's just that whole point of really getting frustrated with no sidewalks, no expanded roads, kids walking on these roads with no sidewalks. I mean, you want to have a fun time, drive down Bailey Boswell when school lets out and you have teenagers walking on two inches or 12 inches of asphalt on the side of the road. And that's what, you know, we constantly keep hearing is what's going to be done, what's going to be done. We get promises, nothing's done. And so it comes down to the point of we got to start yelling louder. So I'm sorry for taking frustrations out on you. I know it's, you know, you guys are, you know, the boots on the ground as well. But it's that point now where it's, it's, it's having time to actually yell. I understand. And you can, you can do that all day. I get it. I've done this for a long time and I don't take it personal. I share the frustration. So I understand. All I can tell you is that we're listening and we're trying to, there's a lot of things that have changed in this last two years. A lot of programs and a lot of initiatives and a lot of things that are changing for the future. For the, you know, to make sure that we take these things into account in terms of the 2022 bond, if field pass or not pass. Right now we're collaborating with the town, county is going to go to do a bond for 400 million now in November this year. And the county, it's, it's approaching all the cities and the city for what is one of the largest cities in the town, county. And we are expected to submit to apply for a 50% match. That means 50% comes from the county and 50% from the city. That's a big investment. It is, it's hoping to submit, you know, for up to 150 to 160 million dollars worth of infrastructure. And so the, the main third affairs and the, and the. So, you know, railroad separation crossings and neighborhood streets, et cetera. We're going to apply for this funding by, I think it's April 4th is the deadline. And I don't think that, that we would like to leave that kind of investment on the table. I mean, if we can partner with the county and go and secure 150 million dollars worth. For us, you know, use 150 million dollars worth of our money. That's 100 million dollars worth of infrastructure. And I don't think that the voters will like to leave that kind of money on the table. So, you know, so that's a big thing that the bond is, is having this, you know, this, this election in November and that, you know, we already have meetings with them and we're going to submit for funds for a lot of these roads. I've double J boss is one of them. So, I understand that you're right, you know, the bond is not guaranteed. And the bond may not pass, but where we have a partner that is it's bringing quite a bit of money to the table. So, you know, if we do get awarded those funds from the county, I don't see people not wanting to take a bunch of that. So, those funds aren't going to be used in the area they live. I mean, it's very easy to see that perhaps. But, you know, that that's still a lot of infrastructure that, you know, the city can, you know, capitalize on that is going to bring more revenue that is going to bring development that is going to, you know, with discovery and innovation is going to generate jobs, etc. So, there's a lot of things that, you know, we need to think about, you know, when we're, I know that it's really easy to get frustrated because of our own, you know, frustrations, but, you know, these will be a great thing to be able to to partner with the county and go ahead and push this bond program forward. So, I hope that we can do that. So, as I said, we have few more questions here. One is from Dwayne. Can the presentation be emailed to us? Sure, Dwayne, I have your contact information, so I'll email you the presentation after the meeting. Thank you very much. The school district. I thought I was looking. So, Dwayne, we sent out the email to Mr. Chadwell. I cannot remember his first name, but we sent out the information to him. So, our engineer has worked on a 10 year horizon period for the traffic council on this project. So, this project is good to go for the next 10 years as an interim improvement again next month. Any other questions that I have on the chat box? Do we have any questions from the calling users? I apologize again for reaching out to you all in last minute. I thought that you might have all received the information as a part of our early communication with the mailers and reaching out to the neighborhood association. I reached out to Madeleine yesterday to provide a kind of reminder for everyone to join the meeting today, but I was not sure that you didn't receive the information earlier. So, we'll make sure that we'll reach out to you all well in prior to the meeting from the next time. Yes. And Ryan, Ryan, if you can just give me your contact information, I'll be glad to follow up in terms of I'll find out, you know, what's going on with the request for the sidewalks, you know, along the Bayley Passwell and I believe they were doing also evaluation of that band with what that got real is and see if I can get a status from the from that department that that division as well and we can provide a copy of the traffic study. We can provide a copy of the presentation. We can do another meeting if we feel like we need to, you know, have another meeting to try to reach more people. We can do that also. Um, you know, and then I'll be glad to provide you guys with any information, you know, regarding the progress on the 2022 bone program as well. Lucette, I appreciate that. I will email you my contact information. Please. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you, Lucette. And there was something that I missed in the presentation that we will be putting out the message boards. Kind of like a week prior to start of construction so that it would give a notification to everyone who drives through that introduction that we would be starting construction in a week. So our contractor would be doing that and let us know if you need another, I mean, we could do an extra post to let everyone know that we would be starting construction whenever we have a defined schedule for the start of construction. Let us know if you need information to be sent to your audience some other medium to so do we have any further questions. I guess not. Again, thank you all for joining the meeting this evening and thank you for taking the time in the last with the last minute update and we will try to be more aggressive the next time in reaching out to all the neighborhoods before the meeting. Thank you all again for joining the meeting this evening. Thank you very much.