 We're back with the breakfast and plus TV Africa time for us to go through the papers We'll have Nika Gule join us this morning to make sense of the headlines Nick is good to have you join us. Good morning Good morning message. Good morning coffee. Good morning to all of you. All right. Let's take a look at the leadership The leadership talks about the 2023 election. Of course, this is 2023 in 22 more days would definitely have the elections 2023 presidency 22 days to go PDP accuses wiki of working for tunable and The writer says we didn't stop your rally reverse governor replies state party Executive back wiki against article. I mean so much one would begin to ask Some sort of anti-party politics going on and why exactly has the PDP not taken action 22 APC governors behind a she would you that's error for I courted to say and just before we move away Jigara residents excited over 17 billionaire Hadija irrigation skim I got that correctly step down Apologies or apologize to southern governors click tells I Take that again Step down apologize to southern governors clock tells okawa. That's the running mate of the Presidential candidate of the People's Democratic Party Saddam middle belt leaders vow to deliver OB NMP CL sign 740.6 million dollars contract to fix Kaduna refinery Now a swap see beyond ok's 20,000 over the counter payment. I mean the conversation I and Kofi Have had this morning Valence and Southeast must be crushed IGP is quoted to say to die many trapped in a butcher building collapse I sit this morning on the leadership newspaper Well, let's go over to the punch with these headlines The big one there with a kicker new Naira crisis So as a rock forces inciting Nigerians against APC aero fi Malam nasa al-faghan of cabinet said he's still talking about this. He's given another interview is still reiterating what he said a Couple of nights ago as a rock forces inciting Nigerians against APC the riders to that cabal misinforming Buhari a tickle benefiting from Naira Confucian Kaduna governor come out to vote even if they devalue Naira drastically tin would tell supporters and CBN policy inflicting pain on the masses and business of businesses and LCTUC and Niger State governor more from the punch Three killed as a bouja building collapses after extra floor get some people will be cooling their heels in in jail if any life was lost NNPCL they will sign 342 billion Naira Kaduna refinery rehabilitation deal Missing crude probe IG refers reps to Malami PDP knocks we K accuses governor of anti-party activities the VP VP Clock says a core betrayed South for governor's protests Okay, and some of the headlines on the front page of the punch Well, we take our attention to the daily trust newspaper Naira crisis APC governors reject February 10 Deadline, I mean what exactly is this issue? With the new Nair and the old Nair what how much is this money that Nigerians can you know take to the counter? What a how much are we talking about here? Or why can we have a natural system where this money just you know retrieves itself? Tell the Mephiles people or tell the Mephiles people are Paying to get their money demand one year extension to meet Buhari today Protest in Lagos tell a Mephile people are paying to get their money demand one year extension to meet Buhari Today a protest in Lagos military operation suffers as troops in Bush's cash strap Okay, only masses are suffering politicians are having their way Conquerors Quotacy and not only politicians I think that if you have the means if you have what it takes You know to pay so much to get the Nair then it might just be working for you Then you have the NNPC Engages Korea and Koi on 341 billion Naira Kaduna refiner repair and Nigeria recorded over 10,000 cases of cancer and 10 in the month and We're not afraid of anybody I refied there's villa cabals. I mean so there's there's a lot of back and forth is going on Then you find two killed 40 trapped as a booger Building collapses. That's the much we can take this morning on a daily trust the final paper we have for you is a nation leads with the The political story a big one there L5 Fashola Buhari's backing for Teenable Solid Buhari's backing for Teenable Solid president supporting APC candidate says like Mohammed no split in APC, right? Is that what Nigerians will believe and CBN pegs daily withdrawal across the counter at 20,000 cashless banks turn back customers We have cashless policy, but if you have cashless banks, that should give us some reason to worry APC governors to meet president today NNPCL firm assigned 740 million the last to go on killer refinery and all about the APC candidate restates commitment to job creation credit facility for businesses As some of the headlines on the front page of the nation. I'd like to bring at this point Nick Agouli a public affairs analyst our guest on this segment Nick. Thank you for your time once again Let's start with for me. I would like you to start with the deal signed between the NNPCL and Daewoo looking at if you want to be patriotic 342 billion there To have to take the Kaduna refinery if you want to go the way it you know the international community will understand 740 million dollars With just a few months to the expiration of the tenor of this administration I mean should they be embarking on such projects or should we say the NNPC is a Limited liability company now and therefore it can continue with its activities whether the government is about to leave or not Okay, thank you very much for that question As an industry experts. I See news like this as just making headlines Because there is nothing that should have stopped the NNPC To fix the refineries even when it was not the limited liability company. There was absolutely nothing the NNPC Just like the night care of old a Government enterprises that are being mismanaged That don't have any business plan that are not run like a business because I mean, how can you run a business? Where for more than 10 years, I can't remember when last We refined the barrier of crude oil in any of our families at least I know that we have not done that in the entire 80 years of the Buhari administration and I think it actually Was there in the Jonathan administration perhaps even in the Yeradu administration Maybe even if we stretch it back to the Obasan Joe administration None of the Nigeria's for refineries have refined a single barrier of crude oil So how can you run a business like that that the business is generating zero revenue for decades yet? You have your full complement of staff in place You are spending billions of Naira Year on a business that is delivering zero Revenues you can clearly see that this is not being run like a business Is perhaps being run like some sort of charity or something like that so the NNPC of old and the NNPC of today is Nothing but the same thing if the government wanted to Actually restructure the NNPC There is no way you can restructure an organization and keep the entire leadership of the old Organization that you believe was not working well was not being managed well in place And say that you have actually got a new organization. You haven't got any new organization It's like taking the same wine and putting it in a different bottle and thinking you have a different wine So I am not excited about this news I just know that it is one of their headline grabbing news Just like they will just come out from the blues and announce oil discovery and the beginning of Drilling in Nassau state when they have not done any exploration They have not announced any results all over the world if you discover oil There is a technical report that comes out to say look we found X number of reservoirs This is where the reservoirs are. This is the quantity of oil were found in this reservoirs This are the number of exploration was we have reached and now we are beginning to drill oil for production There was nothing like that and I did not just Get excited over this news, which is nothing but just Hot air that is being blown I think that the NNPC leadership themselves know that the next government that is coming into power in may Is going to sweep them away So if this kind of news is what they are trying to use to hoodwink the incoming government that they are actually doing something I don't think the government is going to be deceived. So this news to me is not exciting Let's look at the leadership newspaper 22 days to go pdp accuses wiki of walking for tunable That's as regards the presidency and the question here is Why exactly has the pdp not taken action? I mean if they can say that wiki is working You know against their presidential candidate and supporting another why has the pdp not you know Suspended wiki as it should be. I mean others have been suspended for involving in anti-party activities What exactly Is holding them back There's a difficult situation here between the pdp and covola wiki on the side of the pdp They know that river state is an important state So, you know to win a presidential election two things must fall in place for you Number one, you must win the popular vote. That means all over the nation You must pull the highest number of votes amongst all the contestants Number two, you have to win 25 percent of the votes in two thirds of the country The pdp is not bothered about the second criteria winning 25 percent. They have enough states in ajira. They could probably Take 25 percent. What they are worried about is the popular vote if you lose a state like rivers That takes a chunk of the popular votes away from you And so when we say the pdp should bring down the sledgehammer on governor wiki They are not going to do it in fact These crises have started for months now and we are only counting days to the elections And they are not taking action against governor wiki because i believe that they are still hopeful That there could be some sort of last minute Agreement You know that could still bring governor wiki into their fold so that that explains what the pdp is not coming Hard on government wiki the way they have done in In other cases in fact, they haven't come hard on any of the five renegade governors They haven't so that is the reason they are trying to ensure they don't lose the popular vote On the side of governor wiki. He also has a difficult challenge. I mean he's a go Nick, can you hear us please? Okay. It seems we have a networking difference I You you you find out that governor wiki as we speak today Has not been able to come out in public to tell us who you're supporting For an election that is happening the next few days that to me is a problem for him as a politician That you aren't able to stand behind a presidential candidate in an election and you are a sitting governor I mean in the news in the past few days have said that governor wiki said he has informed his supporters of Who his presidential candidate is and within the same time frame We heard that governor wiki banned the use of the stadium in In rivers for articles campaign. So if we do the march We clearly know that governor that presidential candidate that governor wiki is safe to Have informed the supporters that he's supporting is certainly not atypical So who else can it be? We don't know. So this is a kind of A situation that we're in but trust this politician trust them It is always about their interest and not about the interest of any other person once the pdp is able to Get governor wiki on his side the same governor wiki will start singing Different tones and you know the pdp Governor wiki has put the the sack of the chairman on the table as his condition for coming back and joining the forces the pdp for the campaign and I think baka has a very difficult job there because uchi are you Is the person that worked the the the election the i mean the primaries in his favor So he too doesn't want to let uchi are you to go? So that is that's just where they are about trust politicians who knows They might be bringing up something. All right. All right. We won't consider properly wiki gave um Very impossible condition For the pdp to fulfill But um, he said that he never told us that he will announce his preferred candidate on tv on video. So Maybe we should just leave him cutting some slack But one wonders why he's been saying all these things on tv and therefore this important one He won't say it on tv But let's look at what the um the rumble in the jungle if you want to call it that This time the jungle is uh the up-progressives congress air fires in blowing hot Aisha Buhari posted a clip of air fires allegations that there are personal elements in the ruling administration ruling party Asa rock villa, you know working against the party's presidential candidate Asha wajibola tinamu and they're still talking and papers have captured it today As a matter of fact, uh, the front page of the punch needs to be read Some something about that even though in the nation there seems that the paper is trying to tell us that there's no crack In the apc in the president is solidly behind Tinamu what are your thoughts on these these allocations and then the perception that the apc Is trying to paint? Yeah, my thoughts are that there cannot be Smoke without fire Whereas I I cannot sit here and confirm the veracity of What uh governor wike is sorry what governor Hello, can you hear me? Yes air refine? Yes Yes, what what governor air refine is saying? um There are some elements of the truth because let's look at it carefully Uh, the apc presidential candidate, uh, bola hamlet tinamu. It's a southern muslim and there are some Fanatical northern muslims that don't reckon with southern muslims as being real muslims. That is a fact I mean nobody should be deceived about that. In fact, uh The tinamu himself recognizes that and that is why against all odds He went and selected a core northern muslim And as his vice, I mean risking the father. He's going to have a muslim muslim ticket He was trying to balance that knowing fully well that You know by being a southern muslim is not going to receive the support of some of the elements in the north who have core muslims And so he is also fully aware of that So if there are elements within the presidency within the apc itself within the apc syraki Uh, who are not supportive of not not not tinamu I will not be surprised because is it religion is an issue in agiram politics Regardless of party affiliation, there are some people that would rather put their vote for the pdp presidential candidate On the religious card So what governor a ruffa is saying? Uh, we have some elements of the truth. That's my view about it Well, I mean, there are too many Interesting headlines this morning, but let's even see if we can take one or two before we close the conversation down This talks about Edwin clark telling okawa as the vice presidential candidate of the People's democratic party for the presidential elections 2023 25th of february to be precise asking him to step down And apologize to sardine Governors, what are your thoughts really on this? I trust are totally aligned with the edda statesman edwin clark A governor cobalt was the one that convened the famous asaba conference Where all the southern governors for the first time sat together in a room Because he thought they were having southwest governors South east governors like that south sub governors on this particular day They all sat in a room and they came out with a very strong worded press conference to say that The president the presidential Election the presidential candidate must be zoned to the south and they were very very strong on that And I was very supportive of that as well Because I mean for the purpose of equity we cannot have the north take the presidency for eight good years And then we don't give it to another region. I see there are no candidates in other regions And then the same governor koa is not the one that is playing second fidu to another candidate So it's much of hypocrisy And I think uh governor koa's a political career will be over if he doesn't win this Vast presidential election. That's my view about it All right. All right, nick. Thank you so much for your time. It's been a thrill having you This week. I'm not seeing the benwe sunshine But um, I think all the same you brought sunshine to our conversation this morning And so we wish you a fantastic weekend and look for having you again on the program soon Thank you. My last word to Nigeria says If you have not collected your voter card or it has a deadline passed now. No, uh, Sunday you have collected Sorry, it elapses on Sunday Yes, it lapses on Sunday. So thank you coffee for that The the the deadline to collect your voter card elapses on Sunday, please See now we are suffering We have been queuing for fuel queuing for job queuing for electricity queuing for good road queuing for water And even our Naira that we were not queuing for that was simply to use they have made up to start queuing for it now I bought the Naira 10,000 for 1000 Naira. That's what I used to pay 100 and I pay 1000 to buy it Have much more condition before you will stand up get your voter card So that on the 25th of february, we're going to elect a leadership that will work for us. Please I'm kneeling down to thank you. Thank you, Nigeria Thank you very much. Literally sitting. Well, that's the much we can take at this point in time. We do appreciate your Thoughts this morning. We take a break coffee and then when we return. Yes, indeed. We look at vote buying Make you chop their money and they make it look like they said it said collect the money and then vote for your questions But we'll get everything above what we're buying when we come back. Let's do this