 It's still plus politics, now the postponement of the Convention of the All-Progressive Congress APC instigated mixed reactions in the party, as some believed it was a proper choice and others believed it would have been avoided if the Governor-May Malabuni-led executive of the party had been more competent. Now some stakeholders of the party under the auspices of the All-Progressive Congress Rebirth Group have said, as part of arrangements for the March 26 National Convention, it expected a different committee to plan the Convention other than the Governor-May Malabuni-led group. It's also in a new development that 22 Governors of the All-Progressive Congress are expected to meet on Tuesday to discuss the issue of the chairmanship of the party. This was disclosed as the party named a 20-member Convention subcommittee for the Convention proper. Joining us to discuss this is Professor Usiju Medena, he is Director of Organization of the All-Progressive Congress APC. Thank you so much Professor for joining us. Thank you for having me. Great. Dr. Lukman some days ago had accused, in fact made an allegation, calling some members of the party Yahoo Yahoo members. He said that they were trying to hijack the leadership of the party and he was speaking about the results of the shift of the Convention date. What are your thoughts on Dr. Lukman's allegations? I don't think it is for people to explain the party's program but not to the people of activities that the Convention on 24th of this month and it was made on the 26th of March. What we should know is that the Convention is an election. It doesn't start now, it starts right in the situation to hold a Convention that was not set at 8,000, 8,000 and 8,000 and then you have to provide government to the people where the conductors are set to be, then you have to pay Congress to, you know, it is where the National College to Convention to view. You will now come to the last lap, the last lap to the people, the National Convention to elect the end of this and that, who are trying in Article 4 of the Act of Constitution and in between there is issue of the National Ethics, who are expected to be part of the delegate to the Convention, who are in, now one is also trying in Article 4 of 6. So, as you can see, every take in the schedule of the meetings that we met on, the issue of members of the Convention talk publicly is still ongoing, just a form of non-polar, the National Meeting of the State for that still ongoing, there is no possible follow-up. Okay, let's talk about those who faulted the Boonee-led Committee and the postponement of this Convention. Why do you think that the changes in date is getting this kind of reaction? Because we're hearing all kinds of reactions from different people within the party. Why do you think it's such a heated topic right now? This is a ruling party and if you remember this party was 7 years old, or just about, the 20th party, the build-up to the party was just to participate in 20th-century elections. Then in 2019, you hung only Mr. President as the only candidate of the party who was given the first rank of the himself. There wasn't any candidate at that very much, there weren't any after that. But this is build-up to create a change in it. Where you have a lot of people that are chairing to the President, there are people with aspirations, definitely it would raise a lot of issues. But if you know that some people don't have any issues. They are just what I call conflict entrepreneurs. They get the seeds from the convenience. So they will always try to create something out of nothing to show that really they are responsible. But the activities of the party will put those kind of claims to life. With all the many moving parts within the party and readiness for the convention, what is the assurance that this convention will indeed happen on the said date? Is it sacrosanct March 26th? Is it a date that will not be moved again? Being that you still have many issues that need to be addressed still. No, I don't know about the issues that need to be addressed. But right now, the party started with the issue of convention. The schedule of activities is out. And the party is following it. It's easier to make sure that we meet up to time. So there is no issue on the ground. But if you know when there are grievances, party always move the seeds to bring its members to reconcile them. I think reconciliation is an ongoing issue. Even after the convention, there will be reconciliation. Okay, let's look at the issue of consensus and zoning. Why does your party stand on this particular matter? Because I mean, every single person is talking. The north is talking. The south is talking. The middle belt is talking. Every single person is talking. Those who believe that there are some already anointed ones within the party, hence the dilly-dallying towards the convention date. And now that it's been fixed, there are still tongs that are wagging in that direction. Let me just remind you of something. You see in party constitution, Article 20 in particular, there are three methods of movement of election enshrined in the party constitution. One is indirect, two direct, and three consensus. Consensus is part of the party's policy or procedure of electing a candidate. So the party will only control within themselves. People will now agree. And at the end of this, they will all agree to something. And it will give a take. So if they just agree within themselves and say, yes, we are going to present a consensus. For the most of the Congressive Conducts Act, we had more than 60 to 70% to consensus. So the party will encourage people to sit down and talk and dialogue before going into Obama. But you should know, even after the consensus, we are going to have an affirmation enshrined in the constitution of the party so as to demonstrate that the candidate is not any political. So it seems to be straightforward. Okay. Quickly, what is the APC doing to reconcile all those who are aggrieved right now as you're getting ready to have this convention, you're doing the zonal first before you do the main convention proper. It's their reconciliation process now. And quickly, it's a two-pronged question because we're going to wrap this up. And for those who are still aggrieved, those who have said they're going to court on this matter, will there be repercussions, those who are still speaking very loudly or criticizing the party or in your words, the last time you spoke to a TV station, you said if they'd be doing certain anti-party practices that they might face some repercussions, will there be any such? The first question about the constitution I told you that ongoing, right now, party is reaching aggrieved members, the new aggrieved members, not conflict interpreters or interpreters, but I think those that actually had to do it. It came two, three of the schedule. We're talking about the zonal stakeholder, where stakeholders can sit down. Now, the thoughts within themselves try to distribute offices. There are seven and eight offices that are zonal offices. So to see for instance, if you have, let's take, non-central offices, there are 60, then you have FTC, a visa. So now to discuss this, eight offices. Two is going to take the zonal vice chairman, two is going to take the zonal legal advisor, zonal organizing secretary, and so on and so forth. That is that. Then when you talk about people going to court, you see these parties being linear members because the party constitution, you must exonerate internal mechanism. It demonstrates that yes, they are interested in making it on you. But the party must the right to even excel you. Supreme Court has given judgment that a political party is an organization. If you see the rules and regulations, and the process of the party does not fit you, you move to another party. But this party is always reaching its limit. Even those that come to media and say a lot of things, but the party will reach them and bring them back. Okay. Well, Professor Usiju Medana is the director of organization of the All Progressive Congress, ABC. Thank you so much, professor, for speaking with us. Good luck with your convention. Thank you. All right. Well, thank you all for staying with us. We'll take a quick break. And when we come back, I will give you my take. Well, here's my take. My message hasn't changed from what it was yesterday. I'm still asking that you see through these people who come asking for your votes. Do not take them at surface level. Carefully probe and ask them the most critical questions. Because we can't afford to make the same mistakes over and over again. We must not resign to fade or say, oh, well, I mean, our votes never count. It's what they want you to believe. So I say, don't stop at mumbling and grumbling. Take a stand to make a move to be part of the process. Because when they come with these promises, don't take it hook, line, and sinker. Be interested in their history. Where are they coming from? Who are these people who are asking for your votes? And not the propaganda that they want you to believe. And when it's time, go out and vote your conscience. Wait, watch it get counted. While you vote, do it with your future in mind. Your children's future and Nigeria's future. That's my take. I'm Mary Anacone. I'll see you tomorrow. Have a good evening. It makes no difference as long as I'm concerned. My thoughts towards them moving the dates from one month to the other, it makes no difference. The event is what is important. So posting it does not make something different. But if by March they have it done, it's an event, let's see what will happen. And we are all, Nigeria's are waiting. As a public viewer, I would just say that what I foresee, in my own opinion, is that it's something within the party. And these are the things, these internal, what do you call it, crisis within the party. So I felt they have not put their house together. And if you look at it, there's some power sort of within them. We had to go to not sit or any of these very places. I think that's some of the reasons why they have not been able to come together and have a date. There's something fishy about it because of the intra-party differences because of everybody wants to present themselves as a candidate for the presidency. So I think that is the reason why they had to shift it to other dates. Which I was watching last time, the different factions, the Boone faction, the Tinnable faction, name it. Sorry for calling names. But that is what I know that is going on now. So just because of the intra-party differences, that is why they shifted it.