 I do believe that we have survived all of the attacks and the punishers and we kind of had a little bit of fun with all the punishment stuff so hopefully you realize that punishment isn't always the most ethical way to change behavior for various reasons as you noticed that I was avoiding all right I was able to predict it I was able to and then one of the side effects is also imitating it and so on so forth so we had a little bit of fun with the punishment so we're done with that particular piece but we did want to keep going on with the rest of the evaluation here so let's jump back into it and here we go we often talk about teaching people to fish well you know what screw that I'm just gonna teach them to go out and eat I don't need them to go fish right now I need them to put fish in my pocket I need to be able to feed my family so I am absolutely gonna focus on milking this for as long as I can I don't you know they've ethically speaking they've hired like 30 people anyway so there none of what I'm doing is gonna have any bit of effect at all because they've already hired tons of people so if they want to make sure effective hooey it's not even gonna happen I don't even care anymore okay well I didn't get shot thankfully we did at least violate 2.09 so 2.09 being the whoa lost it here what do we have the treatment intervention efficacy and what we're really talking about is how the client has a right to the to effective treatment and you heard me talking about that repeatedly how the client does not did we really didn't care right so we're just like whatever we don't care what they're doing we don't care what's gonna go on we don't care if it's gonna be effective we just care about client in a paycheck that's just woefully did unethical and I think the bigger picture here with this isn't even an ethical vibe well I suppose it is an ethical violation but it's really getting outside of what ABA is all about right so in general you see this whole thing talking about teaching people to fish right but I'm saying no we're not gonna teach him to fish we just we want him to go out and eat and so the point being there that we're violating I don't know how many of the seven characteristics right and I'm not gonna go through all the seven characteristics but social significant behavior and so on so forth so there's a whole bunch of things in there that we're violating we're really just not being behavior analytic as a behavior analyst your idea the goal is to build behavior you're gonna strengthen behavior you're gonna teach people to do things you're not gonna do it for them you're not gonna fill in the gaps you're literally gonna teach people so that applies in whether you're working with the clinic with kiddos or you're working with a business in an OVM setting so keep that in mind folks we are got to keep that seven principles in front and center every time you're working in the field it doesn't matter what you're doing and of course our standard ethical violation here of 2.09 so thanks I know this is a quick one we'll see you again for another one