 We're here at CBS 2016 in Nairobi Kenya and I'm very pleased to be joined in the studio Mr. Francis Wangusi who's the Director General of the Communications Authority of Kenya. Mr. Wangusi thank you very much for being with us in the studio today. Thank you very much for inviting me to this studio. It's a pleasure to see you again. Thank you sir. I'd like to start off by talking a little bit about this symposium it's being held in Kenya. I just wanted to find out why Kenya, why do you think you're a good venue for this particular kind of subject? First of all I want to appreciate and thank ITU for choosing Kenya as a venue for this symposium. We are glad that we are the sixth in the row of holding such a capacity building symposium. But I must say that as Kenya we are pleased that this symposium is held here because of a number of reasons. We ourselves are very active in ensuring that ICT is being used seriously as an enabler in helping us achieve our own vision 2030 goals. And as a member of the United Nations we heavily subscribe to the Sustainable Development Goals and we believe that ICT will be able to help us reach there. But we appreciate as we try to integrate ICT in a number of our social economic activities the challenges that are being posed every now and then. As a regulator I think we sit in between those challenges and therefore having a team of experts academia and other industry players you know coming to Kenya to be able to discuss a couple of these things and share the experiences on how they have been able to circumvent some of these challenges around the globe is sincerely a very important aspect to us that we would want to say that this symposium never came at a right time than this. It seems to be an incredible amount of energy here for innovation for technology as an ICT hub here that I know was recently visited by Mark Zuckerberg for Facebook. There is a great deal of certainly it seems of enthusiasm and energy for this kind of subject. I just really wanted to ask you there have been a number of conversations here a lot of great sessions. What are the kind of messages that are coming across at the moment? Ideally I think the messages that have come across is that everybody is really encountering challenges in as far as the ICT's applications are concerned. The ICT technologies are evolving every day and they are touching on every aspect from academia to industry to policy making and name it and in all this I think the challenges appear to be uniform across and indeed much as it is an informative and capacity building session it is also a very good avenue through which people are being informed of various developments that are taking place. I'm happy that the academia have been talked on quite pertinent topics like universities without walls something that even us here in Kenya are trying to implement in order to make sure that as many people in Kenya as possible as many youth in Kenya as possible are able to access this kind of education even irrespective of the backgrounds where they come from. Of course one thing that is quite conspicuous is the fact that we are all accepting that policy making is always coming behind innovations in the ICT technologies and therefore since we are laggards in most cases we tend to be out of the past and therefore how do we make sure that we run alongside with the developments in technologies. We have also seen the proprietors of internet how they have dealt with the issue of internet at first they started with internet being democratic today they are facing different challenges now the democracy of internet is no longer an issue the issues that have come up as a result of the model that we took in governing the internet are also becoming insurmountable and the different approaches need to be thought about and this I think clearly even from the presentations that we had from the internet forum was quite excellent in giving us opportunities to learn that everybody is beginning to realize what is free is really not necessarily free unless there are certain mechanisms put in place to make it correctly free. So we have also looked at the senders of excellence how they are performing in trying to make sure that the issue of ICTs is not only being understood by the practitioners but it is also you know understood and utilized properly by the consumers and all these things I think together make it a very interesting chapter for us not only in Kenya but I think the entire Africa to see the experiences that we can get from the Americas from the Asia from Asia from Europe and name it and even we ourselves as Africans sharing the different experiences we are getting as a result of this utilization of the ICT technologies. So are you infused with the optimism that's permeating this symposium with regards to capacity building in a global basis? Absolutely, absolutely. In fact I tend to think that this symposium should be progressed in a manner that you know every other year or every other after the year at least is held somewhere for people to be able to discuss the new developments that happen in this field of ICTs and as I said earlier ICTs key in the achievement of the 17 sustainable development goals and for us to share all these experiences for us to look at how we can make sure that capacity building in the ICT sector to ICT practitioners to ICT consumers to ICT policy makers is making them relevant to the situation as it arises every now and then is to me what we really need at any other time to inform ourselves in order to be able to utilize and optimize the utilization of ICTs properly. Francis Wengisi, thank you very much indeed. Thank you.