 Hi and welcome to People's Dispatch. We're here with Surya Anta from Indonesia, who's here to tell us about his organization and his struggle. So if you could start maybe with the presentation of where you come from, your organization. I come from Jakarta, Indonesia. I'm a spokesperson of the People's Liberation Party and also spoke to spoke person for Indonesia people from for West Papua, solidarity group from Indonesia who support the struggle for independence for West Papua. So with both of these organizations, what is the goal? What are the objectives of these organizations? We are an organization who fight for social justice, fight for a better life, fight for a better situation in democracy and economic, social and culture in Indonesia. And right now what are the concrete struggles that you're taking on with your party? We also are campaigning about against this thing, shrinking democracy by the militarisms and undemocratic regulations and also the violations of human rights to the people of Indonesia and people of West Papua. And what is the biggest challenge of being an activist with kind of a revolutionary perspective in Indonesia? The biggest challenging is that in Indonesia any kind of leftist thing or the freedom of thinking is quite very prohibited. I mean when you say when you against government or when you criticize the government or you when you make demonstrations about the social justice, government also makes accuse us that as a communist that communist in Indonesia is prohibited and communist is an atheist. But actually a lot of activists who fight for social justice they don't know they don't took a part or don't they don't have a deligy of communists they just fight for the social justice. And maybe you could talk a little about the struggle in West Papua and what are you doing in the solidarity campaign? So we built the free West Papua or Indonesia people from West Papua in 2016. We realized that the West Papuan people is not part of Indonesia it's they have their own nations that in 1969 there was a fraud and fake referendum under the militarism so under the Suharto regime for 32 years. So since 1969 until now there has been genocide towards West Papuan people almost 500,000 people were died during 50 years annexation in West Papua. So the position the Indonesian government is illegal in West Papua. We support not only the freedom of expression in West Papua but we recognize them that West Papuan people as a separate nations. We are recognized as Indonesians nations recognized by the Netherlands in 1949 but that does not include West Papua. We annexation we West Papua territory in 1961, 1962 and then we make a fraud or fake referendum. That's why we think that for West Papuan people there is no freedom, there is no peace, there is no democracy without liberation, without freedom from Indonesia. And is this a common perspective amongst Indonesians or is this not? It's not a common perspective. A common perspective in Indonesian people it's chauvinist nationalism. Some of the some of the social movement and left took apart to give solidarity to the West Papuan to fight for their independence or to respect their struggle for the right for self-determination. Can you talk a little about the neoliberal economic policies in Indonesia right now and the impact on the people? The economic neoliberal in Indonesia has been done for 20 years, 22 years since Suharto signed agreement to have a debt from the International Monetary Fund so I think all the governments corporation were privatized and several good subsidies were cut by the government such as oil such as electricity and health and etc. So the constellation in Indonesia is now all the parliamentary party, even though they are different name or different ideologies nationalists or religious, Islamic, they are pro neoliberal. None of them against neoliberal. In April there will be a presidential elections. This is the competitions between the right wing versus far right wing. Jokowi's right wing, pro investment, pro neoliberal, pro anything from the packet from the imperialists. The other ones, Prabowo, he was former son-in-law of General Suharto, the second president. Actually even though he said about sovereignty, even though he said about economic problem, actually he is part of the oligarch and he is part of the ruling family during Suharto regime and he also agree with neoliberalism. So with the upcoming elections what is the perspective from progressive organizations from the working class on these elections? We are divided. Some of the labor movements, labor union, the biggest labor union, the leader support Jokowi. The second biggest confederations, labor support Prabowo, which is the metal federation. But some of the left, individual or individual, they support Jokowi. Former activists in 1998 during the overthrow of Suharto or we can say reformacy also support Jokowi, but some of them also support Prabowo. So but in five years ago, in the election 2014, we also divided, but most of the activists, former activists in 1988 support Jokowi, but then now some of them realize Jokowi is going to write and accommodate the idea of a new order, the Suharto policy in 19, during 32 years. So but what is our position now? Most of the left groups say that we cannot took a part in the elections. We cannot vote for laser of the after evil because these things is getting worse and worse. Jokowi is getting to right wing and Prabowo is making, was made an issue about racism to the Chinese decent and to non-Muslims, non-Islam and issue that's that base on the we call Sara, ethnicity, religions and race. That's a problem of Indonesia. Thank you for talking to people's dispatch. Thank you very much.