 Like to call the 22nd meeting of the 2014-2015 common counsel to order with a clerk, please read the quote for the day Thank You mayor Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference Thank you very much Would the clerk please call the roll for the meeting there are 14 present? Alderman Jim boring and alderman ty dasler are excused. Please stand and join me in the pledge of allegiance And to the republic for which it stands one nation under God Indivisible with liberty and justice for all Next item on the agenda is approval minutes from our last council meeting Alderman Carlson. Thank you mayor I make a motion to approve Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion on the motion? See none all those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye opposed motion passes Next item on the agenda is resignation city attorney. There's a letter to the council from former all-the-person Kevin Medichick advising that due to his legal issues and criminal accusations against them. He's Resigning his position as fourth district alderman in the council Thank you very much Accept the motion then I make a motion to accept and file the resignation Thank you for that motion and support All those unless you have to call a roll on that please with the clerk, please call a roll It will be 13 eyes and there the roll call should have said 13 not 14 Alderman Hammond is also done He's also excused Okay, the motion passes There are no council appointments or no confirmation will call council appointments this evening's we'll move on to public forum Okay First this evening would be Mary Joe's a cozen Mary Joe would you come on up to the front, please and Mary Joe Can I have your home address, please? 2314 North 7th, okay, and you will have five minutes. Thank you. You're welcome Good evening, mr. Mayor and the aldermen's of shiboy again and the citizens also I'm here to speak about the field of dreams issue Our my first point is the shroud of secrecy This entire business proposition has been done under the shroud of secrecy Anything done in that manner should be highly suspect the community at large Heard that this adventure online heard of this venture online around 130 last Monday February 9th of 2015 If they didn't read about it online, they would have read about it in the paper on Tuesday the 10th our community Has had no input The community has had no input on the sale of the field of dreams Northland The demolition of this well-used park playground a recreation facility Should not be done Aurora has reckoned that requested to rezone the field of dreams property with us less than a week of the community knowing about this ordeal We are wondering why that is We are wondering where are the auroras detailed architectural plans for the field of dreams North property What is the long-term planning for the field of dreams property south that the butzons most graciously donated? We require more information and documentation It would be to everyone's benefit post all this information on the city's website. We need more than a simple sketch that shows The public the actual group hints of the final buildings They have announced to be projected to be completed in 2018. I've included one for everyone if you would like Shouldn't the city need to see complete architectural drawings before making the decisions? on rezoning Is Aurora truly doing what is right for the long-term growth of our community? David Gabner, I'm sorry if I stated his last name wrong stated Aurora is doing this for the community and the sports programs in Sheboygan Aurora is destroying one facility and helping to develop another just to acquire the property Is that self-serving for their war cooperation? If they are really concerned about the whole community why couldn't they build elsewhere? Maybe the additional shop co-property that the city is already purchased for two point some odd million dollars And then leave the existing sporting facilities that are much used on the north and soon to be the south side to help develop Our town as a whole this would be truly great gift to Sheboygan Right now their offer to help develop the south side property is nothing But what we see as a bribe to destroy a wonderful green space and a prop park if their plan is to build a new hospital or facility outpatient facility or A surgical facility what will happen to their additional facilities in Sheboygan in the long term? We all know that buildings We all know that buildings like many others in our community Need upgrading removal because of age environmental challenges and technological upgrades The field of dreams north the neighborhood was not a repeat was not informed about this Had a time they are severely against it the surrounding neighborhood received a vague letter from Aurora Regarding the community meeting on Monday the 9th, which I also have a copy for everyone in the council That is when they were informed about the plans to build an outpatient surgery center on the field of dreams north site The neighborhood finds out that the school board was going to vote on the field of dreams not more than a day afterwards In Alderperson this past weekend Informed our field of dreams group that the Common Council was assured by Aurora that the neighbors were on board with this plan prior to the releasing of this letter Property values around the proposed Aurora facility will go down Will how will that affect city revenue Aurora has a nonprofit side to their corporation? Will they have different revenues for the nonprofit and for the profit will their revenues of $200,000 offset the loss of property values The use of the park the park is used in multiple groups daily Soccer baseball young children playing adult flag football teams Legion games every Sunday Community organized soccer recreational kite flyers Families neighborhood children there's been an increase every single year for the past 12 years of the park The so-called dog poop issue is because of the aeration Just to set that aside Parking the parking issue is not an issue every park in the street has parking issues Yes, you're five minutes or up. Did you need an additional minute? Yes, please? Thank you We should maybe rezone and pay or pave over many of our parks if parking is an issue We'd like to know what's going to happen to the community gardens. How many fees the city is going to take over? With Sheboygan's a destination. We've heard that before in the construction of the Harbour and What's going on there with our south side? We've heard the construction of the marina and look where our money carry consumption has gone there We'd like to continue to build our facilities and to continue to continue to grow for long term here Not just a short-term budget fix And I think that needs to be considered with the citizens of Sheboygan and the surrounding communities That needs to be taken into consideration with every project that we do here and it seems though is not I have lived in progressive communities across this country Boulder, Colorado Orlando Denver and they have planning for long term I don't see the planning being exhibited here at all. Excuse me Mary Joel. Yes. I'm sorry your time is up Thank you for your time and consideration Thank you. I will give these to the secretary if you'd like to reference them next on our list is Renee Rush Renee are you here? Thanks Please hold your applause Renee if you could come up to the front, please Renee, could I have your home address? 2301 North 34th Street. Okay, and you'll have five minutes Well, welcome everybody and thank you very much for the community support here And thank you for allowing us to have a chance to speak We are scrambling as neighbors in a community to try to rally around our Vibrant park that we have. I think it's fair to say that Aurora and the city and the school district has had ample time to Talk about this and plan about this with us hearing about it and the ninth hour. We are left a little bit Unprepared, but we are doing the best that we can Just wanted to talk a little bit about The Southside complex that is looking to be built and we are for that we are very supportive of that We would like to see a new sports complex built on the south side of town We really feel that the community and the children should not need to Choose the north side or the south side. Why can't we have both? Why can't we have two facilities for our children to play and to? Practice and have tournaments and have fields. There is that we are not against I feel like Aurora and maybe the community it feels like we're they're pitting us against the Southside complex and we are not against that at all I just want to make that very clear a lot of our children participate in a lot of the sports that are taking place in those at the field of dreams baseball soccer and The hopefully, you know the Schwig and youth football is looking to get some fields at the Southside as well And we are excited about that because a lot of our children play that as well We talk about you know Aurora's they want to be about wellness and health And it's interesting that you want to take away the park the green space that creates a lot of health health and wellness in the community Not just soccer is played there as Mary Joe pointed out We do have a lot of different activities that are there Neighborhood kids go there every single night after school or pick up football games They kick the ball around we have a lot of them in the audience right now that do that I have listed here. I also have copies for the council if they'd like to leave them with a secretary We have a variety of Different land option sites that were brought to our attention that we think Aurora would or could at least look into on the north side We have land between Grohl Road and Miller Road by County Y by the new senior nursing home and assisted living There's land by the intersection of County Y and County O in the central part of the city We have expand an existing aurora's clinic location by the pick and say building and shabuagan County police shabuagan city police station We have the old century grocery store by Rogan shoes community bank and trust. We have south of shop code farm field Entrance by Taylor intersection by a community bank and trust Land at intersection Union Avenue and Taylor Drive near bio life on the south side. There's land south of holiday in There's land at the end of Taylor Drive, which Aurora already purchased There's farmfield land just north of Wilkes lumberyard near campus life There is the old Wilkes lumberyard property and there's also farmfield land on south side by auto repair place and near new Subdivision to newer health care clinics have built on this property already So I do have those handouts for you to consideration put into consideration as well I Also want to bring attention that there is Thursday night February 19th at Cooper school 6 30 p.m. A community input session between the school board the city and Aurora health care, so I think it's going to be a little bit more of unveiling of some plans The plans that we've received today to have been very vague have been just like a little bit of a pretty picture with a lot of green space Questioning why we have 610 parking spaces for a very small outpatient medical facility surgery center Why is there three access roads going into it if it's a small outpatient? Facility as well. There's to date. We got wind or we got told there was 37 jobs coming to that facility Why is there 610 parking spaces for 37 jobs? Those are questions that we have that we have not had answered yet It's come to our attention that the school board will also I think vote on this issue possibly February 24th, and that is to be determined. I think date and place So with that That's all I have and I'd like to thank you very much. Thank you Renee Thank you Next on the list is herb Tyler is herb here. Mr. Tyler. Can I get your home address, please? 3514 Gila Avenue. Okay, and you will have five minutes sir. Thank you. I Have here the application from the school district for a change in zoning of that property And I'd like to read just a couple of items most of the items I won't discuss Because they're not relevant to that property They would be relevant to any property that Aurora would choose to build on so they're really not germane to this issue But this one is and I want to draw a picture for you in your mind That'll help you see the absurd nature of what they're recommending On the first page it says and this is already discussed it says to promote the health and general welfare And they're saying by providing better access to health care services for the community of both the proposed site and existing Aurora facilities Well that property Goes a long way toward promoting health and general welfare of our community that should not be overlooked It'd be ashamed to lose that for the people of Sheboygan But this is the one that I really wanted to discuss with you It says amending the zoning map Allows Aurora health care the opportunity to better serve the community by providing better access to health care services for the people of the city of Sheboygan and the residents and surrounding communities within Sheboygan County by developing a new outpatient surgery center and medical office building and I believe mr. Gravener also said a week ago that they were concerned about people in the western part of the county having access Here's the picture. I'd like to paint for you We have a pain center relatively close in that area We have the st. Nicholas Hospital and surgery center two separate buildings Marshall family medical We have purveyor neurology purveyor urgent care and purveyor ear eye nose and throat and I think plastic surgery center you have a pain center just east of the clinic You have the clinic you have their clinic annex You have the Vince Lombardi Cancer Center. You've got coolest cardiology You've got I believe Columbia st. Mary So we have a glut of medical facilities right in that area and remember their goal is to Better serve the community and the residents of the surrounding areas. Here's what I would like you to envision Let's take all of the restaurants in town and put all of them downtown So we can better serve the community Let's take all of the gas stations in the Sheboygan area put them on South Business Drive So we can better serve the community and provide better access. It says here provide better access Let's take the the stores the three Walmart's in the county including the one in Plymouth and target and shop go and Colds and let's put all of those on the north end of town somewhere near Menard's let's move home depot up their tooth for better access for the community Let's take the The grocery stores and let's move all the grocery stores in our area to Memorial Mall which they want to sell now because it's a failing enterprise as many malls around the country are and Taylor Heights and let's put all the grocery stores there to better serve the community And that's critical by the way because we have a lot of people that are going to go through life Just fine without medical care many won't but a lot will but all of us depend on grocery stores Try not eating for a week. They're critical. They're critical to our community So to provide better access. Let's put all of them right there. That is absurd on its face That alone if they really want to provide better access and health care services not only for Sheboygan But the surrounding community Move it halfway between here and final act now you would have the western part of the community or not halfway But maybe excuse me, maybe Plymouth or Sheboygan Falls Not that it wouldn't be a great facility not that I don't want them to build it Just don't build it on a site that is a wonderful gem in this community and you can never replace I just happen to believe that's very short-sighted my neighbor is Catherine Mertz She's nearly 90 her husband was the city attorney for many years Bucky Mertz He would be 91 if you were alive today. He died four years ago She doesn't have a dog in this fight. She doesn't own property in the area She happens to live in a duplex in the area but doesn't have any grandchildren in the area children doesn't use the park and I talked to her today Her response and she's very very sharp. She's Intellectually with it She looked at me and said are you joking? Are you kidding? I said no, I'm not and This wonderful woman who shovels all over snow by hand unless I go with the snowblower almost 90 She says that's crazy. That's just insane And she's right Thank You mr. Tyler Next on the list is Melissa. Is it brash? Is that how you pronounce it? close Would you please come up to the front? Melissa, can I have your home address, please? I live at 3320 Geely Avenue? Okay, and you will have five minutes So I just thought you'd have a little background I think Mary Joe shared a little bit about how we found out about this So I want to read you the letter we gave you a copy of the letter But some that many of us threw away if we weren't Aurora customers So it says dear neighbor Aurora health care has proudly served the health care needs of the Sheboygan County since Since 1922 in the coming days We will announce plans to strengthen our community our commitment to Sheboygan by expanding out access to health care Providing a long-term investment in our community and simultaneously improving Sheboygan youth and sports facilities period Long sentence some of these changes are occurring near your home as A resident and community member we would like to share these plans with you and receive your feedback Please join us for an informational meeting at 6 p.m. On Monday February 9th 2015 at praise fellowship with praise fellowships address listed here We look forward to seeing you on Monday who would know that that was to sell the field of dreams and build a Hospital complex. We did not know most of you can see mine has coffee grounds on it Because I threw it away because I'm a purveyor customer. Not that there's anything wrong with Aurora. It's just who my Employer offers, but I did not know and nobody knew so my friend and I got word on Saturday night. We're at a hockey game with our boys. We got word that They want to build on the field of dreams and we said no way There's no way that that is happening, but we don't want to spread rumor We would want to do anything but we should alert the neighbors because they're probably like us and they threw it away and We got some letters about 60 letters together and we taped them on the doors of the people that were surrounding in the community And we wished we could have got to more but it was really cold that day so we got as many as we could and it was late at night and We showed up to the meeting and let me just say they were shocked that we were there. They were pulling chairs in But we were just as shocked to see what was going on so I just wanted you to know the real background and the fact that they were voting on the sale of the property the next night and the fact that that the Press article was embargoed until 1 30 on Monday. That's wrong. All of this has been wrong And nothing about it has been upfront with the taxpayers nothing Including 610 parking spots for we don't have plans for a hospital there come on We are educated individuals here. We can do the math and figure this out So I just wanted you to know a little background about how this has all come about So thank god to the people in the community who came together on that night of over 50 of us Let me just say that night We took an impromptu vote in the middle of that meeting when we just found out what was going on and said is anybody for this Does anybody think that this is right for the city of shabuagan and the residents and the kids of our community? And not a hand went up Not a hand It is our understanding that aurora is giving as a part of this deal and they won't give it if they don't make this deal Is that they're giving some money to build the boots and property? We are excited about that but that property was going to be built anyways That was going to be done So the fact that you're saying that this is going to be taken away from the community is not true But let's just say this it gets built faster than what what it was going to be built originally What about the 800 000 dollars according to the paper that the taxpayers are going to have to put up because if you ask the taxpayers I'm guessing they would like some streets fixed. That's just my personal opinion But i'd like for you to ask them because we weren't going to put up 800 000 dollars originally Now we're putting up 800 000 dollars of tax money. We have a problem with that Field of Dreams has satisfied the needs of for 22 years what it was originally developed for They had no baseball or soccer fields and they came to the community and they asked us what what to do with that property And we were reasonable people and we said yep That soccer fields and baseball fields. That's Awesome. It is still serving that purpose today. I have lived there for 13 years and it has increased in its use exponentially It is a fabulous park that people come to all the time and the fact that people are driving on it I don't even know where that came from. I have never seen that happen. That may be possible I don't know but i've never heard of that but somebody said they were driving on it Melissa. Would you like the extra minute? Yes, please go ahead But has any considerations also been given to the community gardens that are going to be the used on the south side Because let me just say when you have something close to you Moving it on the south side is not the same So you're a neighbor right next door. Who's next to you if I move them on the south side. Would that be the same? How about your park that's in your? Community in which you live if we move it to the south side. Is that the same? It's not the same and the way that this park is used is not the same way. We're attending to use the boots and property We're also interested in what the infrastructure costs are going to be to put in this hospital facility And when asked on monday what was going to happen with the infrastructure and all the costs It said it hadn't been considered because it hadn't come to you Well, I think we should know all those things before we do that because that's taxpayer money If they're going to have three access roads and people coming into the surgery center and all those different things And we haven't even taken that into consideration and I'd like to respectfully request that don hammond Excuse me melissa feel not be able to vote. Excuse me melissa your time is up. I'm sorry. Thank you Thank you everyone Next on the list is vicki meyer Is vicki here Vicki can I get your home address, please? It's 3107 north 26th street shabuigan and you will have five minutes. Thank you. Good evening everyone The field of dreams is a park and it is a place where families and friends gather and children play If you rezone this park, you will be a partner in its destruction I know money is a driving force in destroying this park, but everything should not be about money In this case it should be about the children and their children And the children that will play on the field of dreams long after we are gone The children come first Remember shared in park people didn't want their parks destroyed This is another shared in park But 30 times bigger and 30 times more problematic The best way to end this nonsense Is for one of you To make a motion to file the documents and one of you to second the motion and the rest of you With a good conscience and a love for kids and our community to vote for it Do not help destroy the field of dreams I ask you to do the right thing Kids come first Thank you. Thank you. That's it for public forum. Thank you very much Next is the mayor's announcements. I'd like to ask uh mike shard to please join me at the podium Mike shard is a utility engineer for the shabuagan water utility For most of you know, mike he's the epitome of of of consciousness detail orientated engineer in mike's hands No detail got overlooked Mike has been designating and designing rather and coordinating all the aspects of water mains in shabuagan for the water utility for More than 30 years His favorite expression is why is there always enough time to do a project over but never enough time to do it right? in a bit of contrast to this Detailed and technical approach Utility superintendent joe trubelab recalled and is for one of his times in the first time in uh first year in the utility He went out to jorgin avenue with mike near harris man school After recounting various details of the water mains in the vicinity mike proceeded to remove Two little copper tubes from the utility truck These were about two feet long and each had a bend in one end and a 90 degree angle forming a little handle Mike then proceeded to tramp over the ground with the tubes pointed ahead of them in order to douse the location of the water main pipe in the ground Sort of like old dousers Sticks in the movies Being a rookie joe trubelab immediately thought that he was being had He but slowly mike realized He realized that mike was not one to play a practical joke In fact, the little tubes did work to help obtain the location of certain large shallow water pipes Eventually as time marched on mike gave up the little tubes and relied more on electronic locating devices But it shows mike's overall dedication to getting the job done and using whatever it takes Tonight i'm really Privilege to give mike the certificate of appreciation From the city of shabuigan and the shabuigan water utility This certifies his 33 years of dedicated service from january of 1982 through march of 2015 mike Congratulations on your retirement and thank you so much for all the great service you gave the water utility and the city Would you like to say any words? Well, thank you, mr. Mayor, and thank you to the city of shabuigan. I enjoyed my 33 years with the water utility working with a team of very dedicated employees and That's one thing i'm going to miss There's a lot of things i'm probably going to miss but Thanks again for the recognition Tonight on your desk you'll find a press release Um The proposed lake michigan national marine sanctuary in wisconsin has now been added to the noa inventory for future designation consideration The cities of port washington shabuigan manor walk and two rivers jointly announced today that The regional nomination for a national marine sanctuary Submitted by governor walker on behalf of the citizens of wisconsin has officially been added to noa's the national asianic and atmospheric Administration inventory list of areas under consideration for future sanctuary designations Our four communities have worked very hard in partnering on this effort Embracing a regional approach is the best position for us and for eventual success While we are quite not quite there yet. This is a great indication that we are on the right path This regional nomination as submitted to noa Detailed a proposed 875 square mile area National marine sanctuary stretching from port washington to two rivers The sanctuary would be only the second in the great lakes and the 14th in united states It would contain 34 known shipwrecks including two of the oldest shipwrecks in wisconsin and 14 intact ship shipwrecks Four of them was standing mass The 15 of the 34 shipwrecks are on the national register of historic places Once nomin and once unnominated areas placed on the inventory Noa can consider it for designation, but it does not guarantee that noa will begin the sanctuary designation process for that area Designation occurs as a separate public participatory process and often takes several years to complete So this is some great news and We're happy to spread this out Um, you also on your desk you'll find a new recycling brochure That brochure is available on our website And the water utility was gracious to offer that they would stuff it into the next You quarterly bill so everybody will get one at their homes as well The city is going through a redesign of its park rec and open space plan and as part of that plan There's a survey on the city website if anybody would like to take that survey They can go to the banner ad and follow that to the uh, the survey that they can fill out Thank you Okay, then we'll go on to the consent agenda Alderman carlson. Thank you, mr. Mayor I make a motion to accept and file all our o's except and adopt all our c's and pass all resolutions and ordinances second We have a motion This will include items 2.3 through 2.17 Alderman heidemann. Thank you, mayor I'd like to pull item 2 7 out of the consent agenda And basically the purpose for holding it out is I'd like to make a motion to hold this document Until after the school board has decided whether or not they're going to sell the property Okay, 2.7 is the resolution by alderman vander wheel and van akker and directing the public hearing On the change for zoning and the property located at 3306 seaman avenue Okay, we have a motion. Is there a second? We have a motion in a second under discussion Go ahead arm and carlson. Thank you, mr. Mayor I think this is kind of putting the car before the horse here I mean the the purpose of this is have is have a public hearing and I think that's pretty important I mean that is what everybody here is asking for Everyone can come up here to a public forum, but we can't respond That's kind of the point of a public hearing. We can't do this in this forum. So I think we need to have this Thank you for those comments alderman heidemann. Thank you, mayor I didn't know if I was supposed to take any of the other documents out of the the agenda I'll wait till they come up first far as separate votes or something that whether 7 2 or 4 2 But again, they're going to have their public hearing Just the fact that we delay this This resolution until after the the school board has made a decision whether they're going to try really shouldn't hurt the effect Or I have anything to do with the the public hearing Thank you for those comments alderman donahue. Thank you, and I had a question for attorney mclean. Is there a reason why this is Coming before us before it's really ripe in the sense that I'm just not sure about the timing wouldn't it make more sense Let me ask you this does there need to be a vote on a request for public hearing before the public hearing is actually scheduled Yes, okay, and so why are we doing this now? It's my understanding the applicants have submitted a requested zoning change And that would typically get referred to the client commission and As part of the process the council typically when the documents come in Approve a resolution to direct the public hearing that will be set sometime in the future And I don't know what the date is of the public hearing, but It's to keep the process moving along And then just alderman donahue and just as a follow-up then so in other words It would make sense for the school district to request the rezoning which I presume is some part of the agreement between the school district and aurora in terms of The offer to purchase That's been submitted that's on the On the agenda tonight. Okay. All right. Thank you Any further discussion Would the clerk please repeat the motion and then wants to hold this or do you want to No, I'm willing to hold this document until after that decisions been made You can come back to the council at the proper time after the the decision by the school board is made Can I comment please? Okay. Just so you know procedurally When the application was handed in that triggers me to draft the documents that I need to draft for council For it to continue all this is is it gives me the timeline by state statute. I have to notify Within 30 days, so it just puts me on the calendar for notifying in the publication, which is the press So that's all this is doing It's just part of the procedure. So it's not going to happen The hearing for the actual zoning the earliest what happened is there about 30 days out For us Is I just wanted to make that clear. Okay, that's fine. So Otherwise I could I would move the file if you want would would that make it simpler for you Well, it's not whether it's simple or not. It's just that by statute. This is what I have to do When it's brought in That triggers me to go by statute to do the 30 days out I publish it in the paper. I have a procedure of sending out notices, etc by statute. That's what I have to do for hearings So I you know, I just wanted to make that clear. Thank you very much for you That's clear So the motion is to hold a document Uh, is there additional discussion all during donahue? Thank you. No anyone else Over here All the middle of the side Being said then I is it possible if we make a motion to file this document Um, the people will be able to Have their meetings. Can this be brought? Well, can they make another application at a later date? And instead of holding it we file it. Well, this this is only This is only it's like a reminder to me to start the process for a hearing Has nothing to do with the application. We're not talking about that right now. This is just the Resolution the resolution so that I then go forward with my process As for statute so that I can get the hearing on the books That's all it is The other things are not what we're talking about the application and all of that This is thank you Alderman carlson. Thank you, mr. Mayor. I there's been a lot of miscommunication on this entire project I will fully agree to that. There's been a lot of miscommunication. The public wasn't fully informed I can't take responsibility for that nor will I however You got to understand the the zoning process That is our chance as a community as the city of sheboygan to have that conversation with our residents That's that's what the zoning meeting will be about The school district will have their public hearing for the sale of the property So if that does get sold Then it does come to us and then we can have the conversation with our residents And the only way we can do that is by having this public hearing and by having this go to the city plan commission So once again this document that you just voted to file all it is once again as madame clerks Richard's just said is a Proper way for her to know File a public notice for the public that we are going to be having a hearing Possible hearing if the sale is approved and we can't have that without this document Thank you for those comments one last thing. This is by no mean approving the sale not approving the zoning This is allowing us to have a discussion with the residents of the city of sheboygan Thank you. Alderman bellinger Thank you mayor I agree with alderman carlson that there has been quite a bit of confusion regarding this subject matter Um Sue as a clerk, could you please give the people here the timeline? and the People at home so they can understand the process that this The the the referral For the zoning is going to go to the plan commission on the 24th At four o'clock the planning commission is going to meet And they are going to make a recommendation one way or the other And that later that evening at 6 30 The school board is going to meet Okay, and they are going to decide whether they're going to sell or whatever decisions they come up with Then the referral from the plan commission Goes to the council for at what meeting or what date to vote on because I think the document states For the public hearing states march 16th for the public hearing. That's correct. So I originally thought that the referral from Of the Recommendation from the public hearing would go to the march 2nd Council meeting, but that is incorrect. That's incorrect. So could you just spell that out to the let me pull the document So I have the right date So everybody is clear the process on how this is going to go That's 2.7 I don't have a calendar in front of me. So I'm just going by the public hearing notice What happens is we got the application for a reason as we always do comes to my office And then what I do is I will draft three documents for that. I will draft What we call an ro or a report of officer that will take the application and everything with it And bring that in and refer and it'll be referred to plan commission at the next available meeting Which was tonight Then I draft a general ordinance A zoning ordinance to change the zoning from a certain class to a certain class And I put all legal description in there and that also gets put in the next available council meeting Which is tonight for referral to plan commission then I also draft a Pad resolution that just Basically reminds me I've got a now file a state statute and go through the process of Um setting up the hearings That allow the public the alderman everybody And that will be held on March 16th. It isn't immediately after The plan commission meeting the plan commission may or may not whatever they decide to do their recommendation will then come to that March 2nd, I believe Council meeting that would not be acted on then all those documents would then be Held until March 16th because I've got 30 days that I need To notify the people that are within 100 or 100 foot radius of the rezone So the public hearing which would be the gallery people in the gallery and for council will happen On march 16th a regular council meeting It will not happen on march 2nd It can't because I will not have had those 30 days to do what I need to do Does that answer your question? Yes, it does it clarifies that you know for me, okay So then Then the actual vote would come up right immediately after that hearing then at that same council meeting on the 16th That's what typically happens is we will have the public hearing first in the first part of the agenda on the 16th Then we will get down to the document that laid over which would have been an aro from the city plan commission And attached to that would be the ordinance And the other documentation and at that point the council would be asked to Vote on that either yay or nay. Okay, so it all happens on the 16th. Okay the way it's mapped right now. Thank you. You're welcome Is there any other discussion on the motion to hold? Seeing none will the clerk. Please call the roll Okay, can we just roll a roll of voice for now? I'll ask for just for a voice. Yes. Point of clarification or point of order The original motion was to hold then somebody made a motion to file I don't know that anyone seconded to file But wouldn't they have to resend there first if that was the case? So the motion on the floor is to hold Do you want to do roll call? To hold Okay, hold on Hold on then the star. Do you seconded it? I did. Thank you All right. This is a motion to hold document 2.7 which is directing me to do the process for public hearing Um, I've opened the voting Okay Four eyes eight nose motions defeated So then we're back to the main motion of To take care of the consent agenda from items 2.2 through 2.17. Is there any further discussion on the consent agenda? Seeing none will the clerk. Please call the roll The voting is open 12 eyes Motion passes Next is communications item 3.1 will be referred to the public protection and safety committee Next is reports of officers 4.1 will be referred to the city planning commission 4.2 alderman bellinger Thank you, mayor. I would like to make a motion to Have a discussion on this document prior to it being referred second Thank you for that motion under discussion alderman bellinger Um, I I've just got um some issues that um, I would like to ask Mr. Gravener to come up in address So could you make a motion to open the floor to an individual in the audience now? Yes So moved it's been moved and seconded to open up the floor to david gravener under discussion Seeing none all those in favor signify by saying I Opposed motion passes david would you please come up to the podium? mayor Please go ahead alderman bellinger Thank you, mr. Gravener for addressing the council. I've got um Several issues that um, I would like you to address Alderman carlson mentioned earlier that there's been a great deal of misinformation Regarding this whole subject matter This past weekend, um, I've field fielded many many phone calls and emails regarding this issue and There's a great deal of emotion and passion regarding this and Candidly what I'll tell you is every call or email that I got was you know a negative one from your perspective and it was to You know for various reasons to to keep the fields the way they are and and you know Move on to a different site All the people that I talked with in the emails I got everybody was conducted themselves in a professional Manor and was respectful you know, so I certainly would like to acknowledge that that there is a great deal of passion any motion that is attached with this And I also had in almost every instance There was some bit of misinformation that was stated to me Um, you know, whether it was They're building a hospital there. They're you know, whatever it was. There was a bunch of misinformation And I've got all those Notes that I took during those phone conversations and I will compile that and forward those on to you But I would like you just you and I when I became aware of this had a Conversation it was very frank. It was very candid and I would just like you to Expound on some of that and number one the genesis for the expansion. Why does aurora need this? Why this site? Why not some site on the south side? That's a lot of the questions I'm getting In in you've heard it tonight. Why is there 600 parking spots or 600 plus on this drawing that was submitted and why the need for so many and What are the short-term and long-term plans for memorial hospital? That's a district that I represent and I live two blocks from that facility And there's you know a great deal of misinformation as far as that goes too So if you could you know just address those issues and then you know other questions that other aldermen may have I would appreciate it. Thank you. Very good. And I appreciate the opportunity You know and I'm I think I'm respectful to the neighbor's concerns And I think you know that having an open process, you know is something that we want to engage around You know, um, I think I've been here four years in our community and my family and One of the key things when I arrived was That the stalemate that we've been at as an organization are we going to expand are we going to develop a new hospital? You know, how do we continue to serve the community? Given the restricted nature that we have of our hospital and the clinic and there's really kind of been two issues around that One is our our land the land that we have to be able to be accessed for healthcare has been a challenge for 20 years And for us to move forward We're looking at the next 75 years And so when we're looking at a project where we're spending 86 million dollars We are going to be moving forward with the intent of how do we serve the community long term? Okay, and that that's a difficult thing to say because it's like all of a sudden okay, we're going to build a hospital there We we're here to serve the community and to serve the community We want to make sure we have the ability in the future to continue to develop and And grow to meet the needs of the community and and part of that is having Adequate land and that's been a challenge I think the other challenge that we've had that's immobilized our decision-making really is are we going to build a new hospital or not? and so You know that process we went through Within our board and with our system and there's there's several things that have happened in that in that four years time When I when I arrived here when you look at our outpatient activity at the hospital we're About 40 percent at that time of our care was outpatient delivered Today at 65 percent of our our care in the hospital is outpatient So there's been huge changes and you hear about them, you know federally That have really affected healthcare and so making a plan To really deal with uh in that period of time when when we're having so much change is a challenge And so what we felt the best solution was you know and that the roar board supported in in 2013 Was to move forward with offloading some of our services at the hospital You you see the parking issues that we have at memorial We can start buying more houses around and and tearing it down or we can move those outpatient services to a new location The clinic has so part of our access issue is you go see Orthopedic surgeon It's it's three it can be three weeks three months before you're into the or and it has a lot to do with our or capacity That's our core issue that we're trying to resolve with the surgery center The other issue is is the clinic has the same issues nine nine acre Parcel perfect location to serve the community But we've been constrained by their by their capacity as well And it makes it difficult for us to recruit Physicians and have them come in and feel good about coming in the community when they don't have adequate space in their clinic So our ability to move those services To to give some breathing room at the hospital and give some breathing room at the clinic is important for us And that was our strategy When when the board made that decision in 2013 we went back and asked for 11 million dollars So we've spent this year and next year we're spending 11 million dollars upgrading our facilities So if you go look at the outside of the facilities, you see windows that are being replaced You we've put in three million dollars worth of chillers We've moved to MRI over a loading dock into a you know more adequate Location we're upgrading all of our inpatient units I'd welcome you to come into the facility because that That decision wasn't made for the last 10 years because we're not sure if we're going to be in a new hospital or not So yeah, I think we're talking out of both sides of our mouth when we're talking about is this going to be a final Destination, you know for a replacement hospital There is no commitment. That is not where our board is going right now But I think for us to serve the community It's critical that we have a place that we have the ability to Control to be able to manage what is needed to serve the community I think you know the other big issue that I think people have talked about is land And I've I've been working on this in the four years that I was here And it was worked on, you know, dr. Gabb and others have been working on it long before I And the challenge really is is that where we are with land And in our in this in the city if you look at our behavioral health population We cover 100 of all behavioral health patients. Many of those patients need Need public transportation Our ob we we have 80 of the maternal child is is in our hospital We have the highest by far number of patients that you know are a medicate and don't have other assistance So transportation is critical for us to serve the community And if we create if we leave the city We create barriers for people to getting care and that's our burden. That's our challenge It's a mission that we're you know, we're committed around but that is that is why we are interested in being the city You know, and I think that You know, when you look at you know, why if you take if you go around, you know, where st. Nicholas is where st Mary's is if you look at Praveya You look at the shabuigan clinic within a mile You have most of the health care and the reason is very simple It is the best access for the county and for the city. That is why that's there There's a where there's a medical it's a medical corridor And we want to be part of that because it makes sense in how we serve the county And that's why it's important for us to consider that We looked at many options Okay, and I'd be happy to you know talk with in anybody about the options that we've considered But we need 30 acres. We need to be able to have something that gives us a 75 year horizon That is critical. There's a lot of 10 acre options. You know, there's there's So if you and I'll just give you a high level if you go south The major issue south for the expansion for the city is is the railway for us to To put something a health care facility on the other side of that railway and have You know that has you know six Six trains five to six trains a day there. Can you imagine waiting to get to? Either out of a facility or into a facility waiting for a train to get there You know, it's multi-million dollars in order to have access to the south side from a from a long-term standpoint So that's a critical. That's an issue going north Out of Calumet, you know, we go into the town You you have major issues for access again for for the city And so, you know you start limiting those kind of pieces We we worked with the school the original discussion with the school was around having The east parcel we wanted to go to the east parcel. That was our optimal And that was the discussion that we had with them and we worked with the dnr We worked with the school to try to identify How we could make that east parcel work and the school board came to the same conclusion that it doesn't work long term for the community Okay at at 17 acres non wetlands. It doesn't it doesn't work for for a health care Um For the future and so that's when we started the discussions with With the school and as we were starting to look at options, you know, dr Sheehan was very clear about what the school board considered And you know making sure that we had good access and we improved services So east side really becomes the new park for the for the neighborhood And I think that point's kind of enbissed in in this is that we're you know, we're developing You know that we're moving the field of dreams to the east parcel They'll have two Soccer fields two baseball fields. They'll have You know concession and have all those amenities that help people Continue to function with the park our land and that's part of you know What we want to do is provide a way that we can have dialogue about how people can access the the field of dreams land If that's so approved by the citizens to be able to have access to that community How should we look at lighting? How should we look at? Walkways all those things that I think continue to help us be a good neighbor coming in I think we're interested in that dialogue And that's why you don't see a big plan It's not together today because I think we want You know, we we want to make sure we have a dialogue that understands what the issues are so that when you see it And you're you're voting on it that you have an idea about how we come into the neighborhood And how do we make sure that we're you know, we're um have that available Did that answer your questions? Yes bellinger. Thank you Any other alderman that had a question? I'm sorry the parking spaces Why aren't there 600? You know, I'm a I'm a nurse by background and I I asked our our Architects to draw up something because I wanted people visually to see something. Okay So we don't I don't know what our parking number is today I'm working that we're getting a traffic study We'll do the review and then at the meeting I said this is our first shot You know, we're just trying to get something out there to start a dialogue You know, I think the letter was something that you know is my bad Okay, I wrote the letter and you know, but so you you can you know, I think you criticize Criticize our approach around that and I totally get it That was intended We were public on Monday Knowing it wouldn't go on the paper until Tuesday because I wanted to have a dialogue with the neighbors I I wanted them to hear from us why we were Why were you're considering that before they read it in the paper? Okay, so That didn't transpire. You know, I I get you know, I get it was too vague I think there was you know a lot of concern about something getting out with the whole picture But but that intent was pure that intent was meant to be to try to get feedback and And I still want to have that feedback and and I I understand it We're coming into a situation where people it's a it's a precious commodity or in our community All of our caregivers we have a hundred 113 caregivers that live in our community and they They their kids go and work in that and and play in that field of dreams And I hear from them every day about why this makes good sense for them And I think having an open public process will be something that will help People understand the value that we can create Together with with these kind of two projects coming together Thank you Are there any other questions by the alderman Well, thank you very much, david. I'm sorry mark I was wondering if any other parcels of land in nine in case the field of dreams doesn't come to rotation Well, we've been working on plan plan b and c since I've been here You know, I think our challenge is not to leave the the city and and so This is this is where we're public We're out, you know with where what our desire is and if that's where to choose You know the citizens and council chooses then we'll have to go back and take a take another look, but I I've I've I've exhausted and our team is exhausted a review of options and we're you know, we're we're investing 86 million dollars in our community and we are We need to make sure that that is set up in a way that you know really manages the next 75 Needs years of needs for healthcare going forward Thank you. Is there any other questions by the alderman? Okay, thank you very much david Items 4.2 through 4.7 will be referred to various committees under resolutions Item 5.1 is a resolution by alderman carlson appointing the temporary special council to assist with the prosecution of the municipal traffic and ordinance violations Alderman carlson Thank you, mr. Mayor. I'd first to ask to suspend the rules Thank you very much for that request. Is there any objection to suspension? second Is there any objection to suspension seeing none? Please proceed all right under suspension. I would uh move to pass the resolution second Motion and second under discussion and under discussion in case you didn't know our assistant city attorney Did have an accident and this is to kind of fill the void until he is back into office. Thank you Thank you. Is there any other discussion on the motion? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll for passage 11 eyes and one abstention Motion passes items 5.2 and 5.3 will lie over To the next council meeting and items 5.4 through 5.6 will be referred to the public works committee under reports of committees 6.1 is an rc by law and licensing to humors referred our own number 202 of 1415 submitting various license applications And recommend that the beverage operators license application 0 6 39 be denied based on her failure to accurate reveal all relevant convictions on her application Her record of violations related to the licensed activity her record is a repeat law Violator in her failure to cooperate with the committee alderman van der wil. Thank you. I move the rc be accepted and adopted second Is heather henning here this evening? She's not we did invite her to two meetings and she did not show for either of them Okay Is there any other discussion on the motion? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll Motion passes item 6.2 is an rc by law and licensing to whom was referred our own number 214 of 1415 submitting various license applications Recommend that the taxi cab drivers license number seven four three zero be denied denied based on his failure to accurately reveal All relevant convictions on his application his record of violations related to the licensed activity His record is a repeat law Violator and his failure to cooperate with the committee alderman van der wil. Thank you. I move the rc be accepted and adopted Second thank you for that motion and support under discussion. Is randy duran here this evening He is not again. We invited him to two meetings and he did not show for either Is there any other discussion on the motion? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll 12 eyes Motion passes Item 6.3 is an rc by salary and grievances to whom was referred general ordinance number 42 of 1415 By alderman donahue amending the municipal code is to add the maywood environmental park director in the public works department And amend the maywood naturalist position on the table of organization And recommends that the attached substitute ordinance be passed alderman donahue. Thank you mayor I would move that we accept and adopt and pass the substitute ordinance Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any discussion on the motion? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll for passage 12 eyes motion passes Next we'll go on to ordinances Orden Item 7.1 and 7.2 will be referred to the city planning commission And moving on to matters laid over 8.1 is resolution number 142 of 1415 by alderman hammond bellinger carlson Cough Authorizing the transfer of appropriations in the 2015 budget to establish an appropriation for south 32nd street paving and storm sewer Beach outfalls engineering alderman carlson. Thank mr. Mayor. I move that the resolution be put upon its passage second Thank you for that motion and support. Is there any further discussion on this motion? Seeing none will the clerk please call the roll 12 eyes Motion passes next to move on to other matters city attorney At 9.2 is an aroh by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending december 31 2015 and june 30 2016 That'll be referred to the law and licensing committee Maintain the motion to adjourn so moved second it's been moved in second to adjourn All those in favor, please signify by saying aye. Aye We stand adjourned. Thank you very much