 So Veronica, we have to wait 60 seconds before I can start the alpha geek media thing for some reason Why we want to talk about for 60 seconds that only the video people see or the people who listen to the full audio on the treasure chest I don't know. It's too much pressure. I don't have anything prepared They can see this People can see a special hair dance 60 seconds of special hair dance. We should really say that For the patrons, but you'd be a bonus level It's all nice like getting a if you back us at the $5 a month level you'll get a monthly hair dance video Hair dances with Veronica Bell Oh, you mean All right, has it been 60 seconds Like it's been 60 seconds Here we go. I'm starting it No, I know it's YouTube reasons Todd Todd's in the chat room. He's like it's YouTube reasons not me Let's make that clear. That's true. It's not Todd's fault All right, well, and let's do this Here we go Hi, I'm Howard co-executive producer for the Daily Tech News show join me as a co-executive producer For only $10 a month in addition to the fancy business cards You will get that special feeling inside knowing that you are supporting the creation of quality content Go to patreon.com slash ace detect. That's p a t r e o n dot com slash acedet This is the Daily Tech News for monday september 21st 2015. I'm tom married joining me today. She does most monday's miss How's it going, Veronica? I was like two songs at the same time. It was a lot of song. It was a little over song Apologies for that everyone. Uh, it's okay Veronica is suffering From overclocking you're it's you're too much heat It's so hot in san francisco and and the I was complaining earlier and you were saying Yeah, it's been hot here in la for a few weeks too The difference the key difference being we do not have ac here in san francisco I'm at the air conditioning border of la Where like More houses not all of them mind you but more houses to the east of me have air conditioning as you get closer to the ocean though Fewer and fewer do because they're by the ocean less. That's right. Same as san francisco No, nobody has you'd have to go set like increasingly southward and even then I still don't think that people in like san jose Probably have all that much air conditioning, but i'm not sure I can't I can't speak for them Our topic today is not the geographical distribution of air conditioning in the american southwest It is however going to be about periscope And we have a special email from one of our listeners in turkey that we'll talk about we've got some examples of When technology has disrupted the world around social justice and whether whether social unrest and social justice are Actually causes for these technological uprisings or not But first veronica, are you prepared for the headlines? I am Tech crunch says apple has confirmed a palo alto networks report that 39 ios apps in the chinese ios app store contained malware That palo alto is calling x-code ghost App developers had used an infected version of apple's developer software x-code Obtained from a third party link on bydu which has since been taken down The infected apps have been removed from the app store as well But when they were there and if you still have them on your phone in china They were capable of doing things like reading device information Data from the clipboard if you were cut and pasting passwords that could be bad And using os alerts to kind of push things that would fish for passwords, etc We chat was vulnerable in its previous version diddy kwadi the the ride hailing app was vulnerable cam card All of those were among the affected apps. Thanks to abu toila kandil say for the tip remember folks though If you're not using the chinese apps store Your apps are not affected Why would anyone want to use a version of x-code from a third party site? Why would you not just get x-code from apple? Right is a fair question and apparently the reason is that in china the apple servers are often slow to download x-code And so they're like oh check out this much faster link for x-code and some developers some impatient developers must have bit Ouch. Yeah, that's that's pretty rough. Yeah, and and you know, that's funny too because we always say If something has made it into the app store, there's you know, it's a good chance It's going to be fine And we don't really worry about that all that often That's something we kind of reserve for google play and android apps because there's less oversight there But it goes to show that not everything is perfectly safe There's always a chance that something could have have malware installed and you don't even know always be careful And moving on to another apple note The delayed update to watch os2 has finally been released apple would not comment on what bug had caused the delay But you can get the update if you go into your watch and go into the settings and make sure your watch is plugged into a power source First that's the way you're going to get it to to to move through. I realized that I was like, why won't it update? Oh, because you're wearing it dummy. That's why Yeah, that's kind of a that's kind of a pain. I guess you could set it to update overnight new watch faces yay Apple security issues an apple os release and now an apple rumor to complete the hat trick wall street journal cited Literally people familiar with the matter. I was so happy when I saw that exact phrase in the story Um in a report claiming apple is targeting 2019 To finish its work on a car now wall street journal itself at the beginning of the article says To deliver a car to manufacture a car and then later on in their own article say It's possible This might just be like the finalization of the tech and they might not actually deliver the car in 2019 Anyway, uh, it's supposedly according to the people familiar with the matter going to be an electric car but not Driverless and it may be made in conjunction with an existing automaker not made directly by apple What are facts about apple and cars? Is that they have hired many car experts? And they did meet with the california dmv the department of motor vehicles to discuss autonomous vehicle regulations Those two things we know for sure everything else is just rumor people familiar with the matter type stuff Yeah, this seems like the kind of article where we're like, yeah, we we know we've been following this This is kind of okay in line with what we've already been been thinking about for the past six months So no big no big surprises there Maybe the maybe the source told the wall street journals pretty good at handling these sources and only passing along the ones that have a Very high probability of being true. Maybe the source said yeah, this is moved from an experiment to a committed project Right and that and that that could be valid that lets the thing that might be significant about it I guess and yeah, it's important to note that this is not autonomous vehicles I mean you did say that but then they also go on to discuss more autonomous vehicle news within that same article So just remember probably just electric cars not autonomous vehicles at least 2019 seems still a little bit early for that kind of stuff At least to me But who am I to say? Christopher pool aka moot founder of 4chan has sold the site to haroki Nishimura founder of popular japanese message board and 4chan inspiration to channel Details of the terms of acquisition have not been disclosed Pool stepped down as a site's admin in january relinquishing duties to part-time deputies This seems to be Going over well in that community as far as I can tell Yeah, it seems like nishimura has a good reputation for community management and that pool was saying I have often looked to him as an inspiration for how to manage communities and learned From from nishimura. So uh, hopefully that's that's true Maybe they'll buy 8chan and then they can create 16chan and 32chan How about no? No But yeah, no for 4chan being involved in a change This is ridiculously quiet. I feel like yeah, I haven't well I also haven't dug too deeply into the world to really get a sense of the feelings But if you guys are involved, let us know How it's how it's how it's playing over there curious inquiring minds Over on the subreddit daily tech news show dot reddit dot com flying spatula noted that france's commission national Daily informatic a day liberty I'm so glad patrisia when you need him. I know CNIL is the is the abbreviation. We're going to call it CNIL has rejected google's appeal And will require google to remove links from non european versions of its sites under the right to be forgotten rule According to our's technica if google does not comply It could face fines up to 300 000 euros And those could increase to 2 to 5 percent of global operating costs Under an incoming regulation change you're talking a billion euros then Possibly now if find google can appeal to the french supreme court and defend itself in detail google's arguing Look if we do this then all websites will eventually you know if you apply this logic everywhere all websites would have to Operate to the lowest common denominator of the most restrictive regime is in the world like that is not okay You can't make us do this This is a big deal. I mean this is This is something we've talked about a lot on the show for better or for worse I I do not think that in this implementation. It's a good idea And now it's going to have even further reaching consequences. So Very very strange stuff and and that's you know 2 to 2 percent to 5 percent of global operating costs Is nothing to scoff at for google. Well, that's a lot a lot of money. Oh, yeah. No, it's a ridiculous amount of money I have a thought Which is could google? block All versions of itself except for google.fr if the ip address is french and would that satisfy a cnil And so instead of making its other sites obey french law just say fine if that's the way you're going to be french Your citizens can only get the french version of google That's you know that probably would work though And and if the people Were an uproar enough about that maybe that could change back some of cnil's Thinking I don't know. I mean it's similar to what google did in spain Google in spain said oh well, you're going to force us to pay people for google news No matter what we do then great. We're shutting down google news in spain. Yeah. Yeah, that did happen Our rotors reports that high speed internet access is coming to short hop flights over europe In missart and deusch telecom. I'm not saying that right in in marsat In marsat and deusch telecom will partner up to offer a combined satellite and air to 4g ground network Uh, which the company say will deliver home broadband speeds Pricing will depend on cabin class and ticket price Lufonza airlines will do a test run of the service on 180 planes in 2017 ahead of that trial Lufonza will offer a global express satellite internet from in marsat From 2016 in marsat in marsat in marsat in marsat marsat In that like company. Yeah the satellite company, you know the satellite folks. You know this is awesome Like yeah more wifi and more planes I love i've been using i've been using wifi and planes pretty non-stop In fact, i've been kind of happy with united's new offering of like three dollars and 99 cents for You know pretty decent wi-fi but per hour They didn't like having to pay like 10 dollars for a flight and only needing to use the internet for half an hour for work Stuff. Oh, so there are united flights that have wi-fi. I've rarely been on one Well, I know because you know South west no when I fly united they never have wi-fi on the plane really all of my united flights have wi-fi now Mmm Uh udacity announced it's opening its first office outside the u.s in india Udacity if you don't know offers nano degrees So they're miniature little degrees in tech skills in india It will offer front end web developer android developer data analyst ios developer intro to programming full stack developer and tech entrepreneur The courses will cost nine thousand eight hundred rupees each That's about 135 dollars u.s with a 50 percent refund upon graduation Google and tata trusts are combining to offer a thousand scholarships too If you can't even come up with the 9800 rupees for the android nano degree as part of the launch So if you want to do android you might be able to get one of the courses for free awesome Man they are loading on me in the chat room right now. They're like who's veronica taking pronunciation lessons from scott johnson Yes, uh-huh you guys I don't know how this person likes to pronounce their username. Let's call it as Snape ear s snape ear Pointed out folks why i can admit it installed an algorithm to alter the emissions of nitrogen oxide uncertain vehicles diesel vehicles Light duty vw's and outies made after 2009 in order to pass epa tests A notice of violation sent by the epa described the software is using data like steering wheel position Speed and length of engine operation to tell if the car was being tested and increased nitrogen oxide emissions If not a study by west virginia university center for alternative fuels engines and emissions discovered the discrepancy And they were not out to okay. So by the way first of all Disclosure i am one of the affected vehicles Which is kind of a bummer and two the the uh the west virginia university center for alternative fuels engines and emissions They were not out to get Veet volkswagen they weren't like looking to take them down They had just noticed some differences between the european test results and the american test results and they're like oh, that's weird And so they started doing tests uh real world simulations versus Tests in a test atmosphere and notice the differences. So basically when the vehicle can tell it's being tested It reduces emissions automatically. Yeah, that is a big no-no. Yeah, it fakes the test it cheats And uh, this is kind of a bummer because you know, i'm a big fan of of diesel diesel engines and and diesel as an alternative fuel And this is going to take that way back because i mean vw and outier are the two like the as a company the biggest manufacturer of these vehicles That that run diesel And it's uh, it's it's going to be a situation for that for that market for sure And it's going to affect the resale value of my car, which is already terrible, but whatever Well, thanks guys. Thanks a lot, uh, outie You know, it strikes me that uh, one of the defenses of the multiple vulnerabilities to car systems That were discovered at black hat and defcon this year and are discovered from time to time Is that the car industry is just getting up to speed technologically? Well, apparently they're real good with algorithms that can detect whether a nitrogen oxide test is happening or not So maybe apply those efforts and the people who came up with that clever algorithm, which apparently worked like a dream Oh, yeah securing your gd systems that people use for entertainment that can be hacked and take over their cars Don't give me the excuse that you don't have the technicians anymore if you can pull this off Yeah, yeah, it's it's I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying Although is it financially in their interest? Well, now it might be it. So I read I read an angelopnik That they're going to be fined up to 37 000 dollars per vehicle That is sometimes more than the price of the vehicle if they don't comply. Yeah, so that's uh Well, there's that and also the public perception of like, oh, uh, so you're not securing the car against hackers But you are cheating Maybe you might want to change that public perception. That might be worth your money Makes me sad Kahahuki Bekrar is founder of french hacking firm Voupen Which sells intrusion techniques to government agencies now a lot of people do not look kindly on that Wired reports that Bekrar has a new company called Zerodium Which announced monday? It will pay a million dollars to anyone who gives the company a technique to take over an ios 9 device remotely By web page app or text message to claim the bounty the vulnerability must not be reported or publicly disclosed In other words, you can't tell apple about it if you want to get your million dollars because Zerodium wants to sell it to government agencies One presumes Zerodium's website reads apples. Uh, excuse me apples ios is currently the most secure mobile os Hence the need to pay a million dollars to hack it Uh, I guess that's good news for apple apple reports that more than 50 of ios devices run ios 9 already a week after it launched Creepy story Does sort of imply that ios 9 is one of the harder to break into uh operating systems And we're not talking about this is different than the app store thing, right? That was putting malware in an app and kind of getting it into the system Zerodium wouldn't pay a million dollars for that What Zerodium wants is the ability to like remotely access a phone and get it and get own and own it Yeah Wow, yeah, that's that's that's a lot of money Also, they say they'll pay it multiple times too for multiple vulnerabilities. Really? Wow. Yeah, they caps like three times I think about three million PC mag reports that researchers at the university of toronto citizen lab found 26 vulnerabilities and the smart sheriff child monitoring app Backed by the government of south korea The app allowed unauthorized users to monitor and steal data and change passwords among other things Back in april south korea instituted regulations that require all smartphones sold to children to include bundle parental monitoring software And made smart sheriff its preferred pick great Great smart sheriff Is how I imagine it being pitched. Uh, I don't know why um, yes Another example a vulnerable day. I'm feeling very vulnerable tom when you build a back door in It does man. It stays like these that just make you want to quit the internet Uh, when you build a back door in anybody can use the back door Yes, yep, okay Forbes has sources that say samsung plans to launch a program to lease its galaxy phones in the u.s Market similar to the one apple announced recently samsung may launch the program in the next several months or perhaps even sooner This is all sources say and the exact pricing and everything is unknown But it does indicate that at least samsung is considering it and that this could be the new trend where manufacturers say You know what? We're going to take these contracts out of the hands of the carriers Moving more towards making carriers into dumb pipes, unfortunately for the carriers Yeah, um Let's say forbes us and as you read that one. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, yeah, I was uh, I was uh, I was uh intrigued by the leasing plan offered by apple. I may yet um Go into that. Sorry. I was reading a joke. They're making vindiesle jokes in the chat room Did you get distracted by the vindiesle? I did. I got distracted by the diesel. I love puns So here's here's the question to bring your focus back veronica. Okay Will manufacturers control your phone purchasing from now on instead of carriers? Maybe I want them to Maybe I want them to maybe I don't really I don't feel like carriers give that up without a fight But I don't feel like they have my best interest at heart Yeah, I don't think I don't know if manufacturers do either, but I'm kind of liking a little change up over here Anyway, I'm I'm literally melting. I am I I am melting. I am sweating through my shirt I'm getting lower and lower in my chair. This is happening Kickstarter has reincorporated as a public benefit company The move commits it to having a positive impact on society instead of profits or rather ahead of profits as well Um, I don't really know what this means. I don't know how this changes things for them Okay, so let me try to explain it briefly You have four profit companies, right? And four profit companies have a fiduciary duty to their owners and or shareholders to pursue maximizing revenue Right returning shareholder value. Everybody's heard about that. Like it's the law I mean, it's not exactly the law But it's a it's a duty if you're a publicly owned company you have to maximize shareholder value, right? Then you have nonprofits who are like, we don't have to maximize shareholder value because we're a nonprofit We're not trying to make money Then you have companies who are like, well We want to do a good thing. That's most important to us. We want to do good for the world But if we're a public company The shareholders won't let us always get away with that because they'll say well You're doing good for the world isn't what's best for the bottom line and we're shareholders We demand you do what's best for the bottom line But if you're nonprofit then you can't make any money off of it, right? And it might be harder to get people involved in the project So a public benefit company allows Kickstarter or LO did this previously to Actually say no legally if you invest in us You're prioritizing the public benefit that we commit to ahead of profits And then any profits we make are only made as a way to increase that public benefit that we're after So that that sounds really good Yeah, it's it's interesting. It was sort of developed for A quasi and municipal organizations I always use mosquito abatement as the example So you've got five different cities that want to cut down the mosquitoes But no city wants one city to run it for everybody else But they also don't want a private company to do it because they're like well that private company might not actually reduce the mosquitoes They might just cut costs, etc. So you make a public benefit company They're like look your main purpose isn't profits your main purpose is reducing mosquitoes mosquito abatement But we're going to make you a for-profit company Because then that's that's that's better You'll you'll be a better company that way than if you were a government run and we've got multiple governments involved in everything And so it's great to see how this changes Kickstarter. Yeah, it's interesting to see more and more tech companies looking at this and saying You know, we don't we don't want to just say don't be evil in our corporate charter We want to actually like make it the law that we have to not be evil like that's essentially what Kickstarter's saying here Yeah, I think that that sounds great. Um, I'm I'm like I said very interested to see how that kind of plays out In the future and if that changes anything For them for the users, for example, if we see any any difference there, um, I don't know what that would look like Yeah, I I'm curious what effects it will have and if you'll have opposite problems Right now you'll have actors to activist adventures like Carl icon come in and say you should return more Money to the shareholders. You should do this. You should buy this. You should do that. I wonder if you'll have uh, socially conscience Shareholders now come in and saying Your your public benefit should be this and you're you're saying your public benefit should be that you could have shareholder fights over that Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how they turn out Submit your stories to us folks daily tech news show dot reddit.com is the place to go do it Let us know what stories you want us to talk about one of the reasons we threw this kickstarter story in here Is because we saw so many people talking about it. So get in there and vote daily tech news show dot reddit.com And that is a look at the headlines All right, we uh, noticed a buzz feed article, uh, Veronica was interested in it. Alex Cantrowitz, uh, did the article and noticed that Just just fundamentally a periscope is used almost as often or more often in turkey than it is in the united states They're definitely the two most frequent countries that stream video on periscope I did a very informal test at 11 15 a.m. Pacific this morning, which is 21 15 istanbul time Uh, there were 41 us streams 69 turkish streams. Yeah So this is mostly about soccer and this is not something we typically see across, uh, the social media landscape I I don't think turkey is typically one of those countries I mean you'll you'll see brazil quite often you'll see india quite often but turkey has never jumped out at me as being a Not not that they're not technologically savvy by any stretch of the imagination But in terms of countries that latch on to a social network or a particular service or something like that turkey doesn't usually spring to mind for me um, so I found it fascinating about the the the reason why turkey And periscope had really come together in this interesting way And it has to do with the ceo of periscope, uh, kavan bakepore Who visited turkey and and noticed that there was some social unrest happening around Particularly, uh, gezi park and the protesters there who were trying to protect the government from turning it into a shopping mall Within hours it had turned into a very violent protest with police tear gassing the the demonstrators Using those, uh beanbag bullets and and things that crowd control measures to kind of keep them down And he was wondering is this a safe area for me to be in like i'm not getting any real information from tv I'm not getting any real information from twitter because those things had been kind of locked down in in ways by the government So he's like well, what what is it good? What what do I want right now? I want to see what's really happening in the streets I want to know what's really happening live as this is happening And so periscope was kind of was born of that and it has become a great way for people in turkey to to share what they're doing And and it's really it's it's spread like wildfire Yeah, I remember when I was doing the top five, uh series at sea net I would do top five search terms and quite often one or two of the search terms would be turkish And they would usually be related to a message board of some kind Usually related to sports and soccer but not always And in this article on buzzfeed, they mentioned that in 1999 a turkish developer named sedat Kapanoglu Built something called xe sasluk or possibly a different name if you know how to actually pronounce things in turkish In english you would translate it as sour dictionary But it was it was basically a collection of news events cultural memes random topics kind of an urban dictionary Meets know your meme it seems like And it was hugely popular also reality tv is very popular. So turkey has been primed For these kinds of social networks and we actually got berk Who uh, who's one of the people I used to write me about scene at top fives when I'd mentioned the turkish Things on there. He's he's been a great member of the community for a long time He says the reason i'm in agreement with this buzzfeed article is because turkey's current situation with freedom of speech It's a lengthy subject, but i'm trying to type as fast as I can so I can make it in time for the show Turkey is advertising itself as a free speech country But in the past few years have encountered some handful of technological restrictions that would jeopardize the country's integrity or the government's credibility And the government did not hesitate to ban several urls youtube videos and after a while whole domains That served those sharing mediums biggest example being twitter So I believe turkish people are in a kind of limbo where they feel they have freedom of speech and the tools But it's such a fickle position that they could lose at any time So psychologically this might make people even more attached to these kinds of tools like periscope as it becomes an important asset of life I believe when you combine turkish people's social aptness With this unsure condition of social sharing people tend to hold on to it more. This is my quick thought. I can write more But I'd like that to be late. Uh, yeah berk if you think more about this, please do write with us He does say that the gezi movement perspective might be a bit forced because periscope is currently full of mondane broadcasts People casting all kinds of useless junk, but people like it for some reason that way, right? Yeah, exactly It takes off in a certain way and then turns into something else But I also would like to know why periscope isn't falling under the same restrictions that other sites like parent company twitter Are are facic under turkish law Article 301 of the turkish penal code makes it a crime to insult the turkish nation So they are if if there are broadcasts of that nature Why are they not being held accountable for those the way other websites and domains as as berk mentioned are being held accountable for Well, and these these uh, these bands that that he's referring to generally involved national news events where Someone accused a member of the government of corruption and the government said Oh, well, you can't you can't spread that information because that insults the nation And so they caused twitter posts to be removed youtube To be banned youtube videos to be pulled down Etc under this law, but they don't do it all the time It's that balance impermanence also like perhaps because periscope is not always logged They can't really keep track of it and tear it down because it's a live broadcast Right because if they if they went and said you can't uh stream on periscope at all Then they would come under huge european criticism For banning free speech because turkey is trying to be a good european citizen At the same time, uh, like you say, you know, nobody has done something that is So Controversial that they need to do it. So they're probably they're probably holding back But first time somebody on periscope is streaming something that the government finds Insults the turkish nation. It's going to put this to the test It's amazing how periscope and other technologies have kind of sprung up around social unrest in this way I mean, we're seeing periscope and meerkat being used to document police brutality And the protest and the black lives matter movement You know, we saw twitter really come to a head during the arab spring And that's been that was a huge change To be able to disseminate news and information so quickly Over a social network like twitter And then, you know, it goes back through time I think like we were talking before the show about how Television had its moment during the moon landing. It's not a moment of social unrest But it was a thing that brought the entire country together the world together at the same time around a a specific event Of big change. Yeah, and and jenny josephson Our producer was noting how fm radio was used in the protest movements in the u.s During the 1960s to organize or even the printing press Was very disruptive, you know the guttenberg bible let a lot of people read the bible when the catholic church didn't really think that was That was okay Put a bunch of monks out of jobs. So there there are loads of examples of this I I think it's interesting. I want to finish with one more quote from berks Email here where he says that another social app four square and swarm were immediately popular in turkey He says i'm a level three super user in the turkish community on swarm And in our correspondence with the headquarters We were approached about the immense embrace of the app embrace of the app by turkish users So even if we don't think of turkey that way they are an immensely social Nation and and if you're doing a social networking app You might want to try it in turkey to see if it gets some uptake. Yeah, it looks like people really like periscope swarm four square Early adopters, obviously twitter youtube, etc All right, so let's move to our pick of the day bill in huntsville His pick is umma, which he used to replace his landline service. It's a voip Piece of hardware as well as a service the premier plan includes call blocking using a database of over 800 Thousand known telemarketer numbers plus the ability to add numbers to a blacklist with a wild card And that's what convinced bill He said I seldom get a telemarketer type call anymore And if I do I add it to my blacklist. In fact, he has a whole system for how he manages that blacklist He says I remember when veronica was a revision 3 She announced that she was using umma. I haven't heard her mention it recently Did you continue to use umma or was that just like a brief test of it? No, we used it for years. Um, we don't have it anymore And in fact, we've been even phasing out our our google number That we used to have as a home line. So we don't know we're not current users. Um, but we were big fans Yeah back when I was Dot com oh om a dot com. I guess that's the thing is I don't really need a landline Yeah Um, but if you do this might be something to take I think I think there was a problem with emergency services Um and using google google numbers and umma with emergency services if I remember correctly A lot of those have been mitigated For instance, the ability to locate cell phones Is now much better than it used to be Certain void providers are required to do e 911 certain aren't so you gotta and you you have to check into that in your area Yeah, don't don't quote me on that. I just uh, I I feel like that was part of the situation It was for sure a few years ago and it might still be so in your picks to feedback at daily tech news show dot com You can find my picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks a couple of messages before we get out of here James says why don't apple slash google slash microsoft slash amazon Do we have a good nickname for those? Mogam or mog moga. Oh, yeah Microsoft amazon google apple gamma gamma gamma I like gamma. Okay. Why don't gamma build in the ability to tell your their virtual assistants to take a break Example i'm starting to listen to a dts episode. I know it's about half an hour to 40 minutes long So I say hey virtual assistant of choice take a break for 30 minutes I know that there's some people at those companies listening. So consider this a feature request people You people close to the matter he says So there james now making feature requests through daily tech news show I don't know if anyone in a position to make this decision happen is out there But if you are please consider james requests I kind of like that the ability to say like hey, you know just stop listening to me for half hour Or you can just turn on do not disturb that would effectively do the same thing Can you do it? Can you do the do not disturb through the voice app? Through these can you tell the assistant turn on do not disturb for 30 minutes? Let's see Turn on do not disturb for 30 minutes No, she can't do that. She says i'm sorry if we're on a come afraid I can't do that feature request has not been added yet I mean yeah, because you couldn't do it manually, etc But like I like james idea of being able to just tell the assistant. Hey do this No smart assistants are still pretty dumb Uh sikani from why is it so freaking humid palm springs hot san francisco and humid and palm springs world's upside down Sikani says for all the talk about ad blockers No one seems to want to address the biggest problem with web design these days in sikani's opinion Which is first party ads, you know The full screen content obscuring pop-ups that ask you to like them on facebook or sign up for their mailing list Or bully you into subscribing because you only have four free articles left Most ad blockers do nothing about these ads because they're not being provided by a third party service And you can't get rid of them with a script blocker because that practically breaks the website Is there anything that could be done about this madness? I mean honestly, this is all part of the same conversation to me Which is the reason people are going to the unusual length of adding a third party extension to their mobile browser Which if you wanted them to do that you would you would have to like move mountains to make people do something like that The reason they're doing it is because Advertising is so obtrusive and people are like I can't deal with anymore. I need to do something about it And and that I think that's the answer to this too those full screen ads that pop over stuff Just stop going to those websites until they stop it. That's the only way it's it's super hard though I mean this has been like even major news sites like I get hit with those constantly And it just breaks the entire experience because you try to close the ad and you end up clicking on something And then the article is gone that you back out and it's just like oh What a nightmare. Yeah It's it's it's a time. It's a time of struggle in the usability world And uh, one can only hope that the the champions of usability will eventually Prevail, but yeah, no, it's a great point. So connie. Thanks for bringing it up And that's it for this show before veronica belmont melts. We should finish up Uh and and gadget.com for dear veronica. Perhaps you could send her in a question like dear veronica Why is it so hot? Why is it so damn hot? That'd be great. Um, I don't have the answer for you on that I'm sorry. I'll have to bring on a specialist a weather specialist for example a meteorologist if you will I'm sure I could find one. Yeah, so send it that question. Actually, that would be pretty fun Send in the questions all the questions uh to dear veronica. 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I didn't say anything though, so It's okay. Those are amazing. I just have really good. Maybe I just have good headphones You have good headphones, but that's not all it is So, what are we gonna call this ellie? Oh, yeah Tell us ellie Don't think that would be a good good title Or with some good ones that I saw in the chat room Go to showbot.tv and vote Veronica meltmont. That's what I was just saying Periscope is a turkish delight That's a good one too. I really like turkish delights Also, I like turkish delights. I like all of these literally people familiar with the matter I know right that's a good one too Six Chan All right, get in there and vote showbot.tv live live viewers Gotta help us out here You guys are I liked Xcode ghost coast to coast was also pretty funny I thought that was pretty good But you know my ego is such that Veronica meltmont is a particular favorite Veronica meltmont I want to tune it up. It's also so true. It's so true. I'm so true. It's just really miserable It's not so much the heat as it is the unbearable heat Yeah Yes, and then seasonally inappropriate I feel like I feel like Jenny, correct me if I'm wrong. I've only been living. This is only my third summer Delight in correcting you if you were ever wrong would you so rarely are Tom? I've only been here three summers and But I feel like this isn't out totally outside the norm for LA No, September is actually hotter often than traditional summer months Nanda, I hate to break it to you la or is october too when you get the santa anas And it's the hot dry inferno from hell and we can only hope that those are going to be mitigated by the El Nino But not to the point where people's houses fall into the Spanish for the Nino Um, yes, there's a very delicate weather balance here in LA In San Francisco, it's always hot and september is our hot month And but this is like 90 degrees and at the end of september has been anas. That's outside the realm I mean we picked I picked september 20th to get married because it was the most likely to be good weather It was like among the yeah, that's why we picked the 22nd, which is exactly the same and it was by the way happy anniversary tomorrow tomorrow. Thank you Three years Whoo, has it been three years? It'll be 10 together in october. Wow. I guess that's over I had just gotten my iphone 5 Yes, I had my iphone 5 delivered to the wedding venue I had it delivered to my house and it arrived right before I left to go to the wedding venue Or was it it was iphone 5 or was it the 4s? It was the 5. It was the 5 for sure. Yeah, because I never had the 4s Okay Yeah, it was the 5 was the first one that changed the length to be longer. It was a bigger phone Yeah, it's pretty No, ian, I think september is the hottest month in san francisco, but you're gonna pull out some numbers that are gonna Hmm Either september or october that are scorching. Mm-hmm But i'm sad because all my cutely tote stuff is uh Showing up and it's all fall stuff Oh, I can't wear this cute coat yet Periscope is a turkish delight. It's just too it's too perfect. Yeah Damn it. Lots of turkish delights. Fine. I mean you don't have to go what the fans want It's it's right up there. It's statistically insignificant difference from the other one that you look at it has your name in it insignificant mom is Don't you dare say that about barbara belmont? She'll find you know your response should be i statistically signified your mom Last night. Oh my god. This is just getting out of control everybody You don't know. I actually just bought my mom an iphone 5s That's nice because she broke. Oh my gosh. I just realized the iphone 5 that my mom had That broke when you got at the wedding was the one I got at that wedding. Yeah, oh, it's funny. Yeah I like how when we just said that it sounded as though we were giving away iphone at my wedding, which is not Not that crazy I mean, there were good gift bags, but they weren't that good. They weren't not there were no gift bags You got a bag of coffee. That's what you got. I did it was good coffee. Oh, and I got you You Bourbon no scotch scotch. I got you scotch. Gotta be damn good. Thank you for officiating Because I was the minister I tied that knot Tied that knot Hold on a second. I'll be right back. Okay. Bye Oh, tom's going to get something related to your wedding. That's just out of view Of his camera. I desperately so we saved a bag of coffee from the wedding ceremony and I ran out of beans earlier last week and I was like, well, I mean if we're not going to use them Why are we saving them? It's almost our anniversary wedding coffee. So I went to the wedding beans. It was it was good I we're keeping them in the freezer as to keep them as safe as possible It's not freezing temperatures. It's not good for the oil on coffee beans So it does degrade them over time, but it's better than leaving them out in the open Give me the drug. That's all I want. Yep All right, that was that was a guy from Time Warner Cable But his name was Jean-Luc and he was the nicest guy in the world Because I'm in the middle of a meeting easier to explain. Good lie. He was just really nice. I was like, oh, okay Plus your name is Jean-Luc Picard What did he want? He was just telling me Time Warner Cable, but Oh, okay, they come to your house and he didn't say he didn't say anything about it. He gave me a pamphlet Wow read the pamphlet TV internet phone and home management Better starts here I'll refer him to you Jenny. Yeah, what the heck? Oh She's getting such a personality on I've met her twice Yeah, Ellie technically is getting close to the ability to actually end the live stream by by percentage chance Like she's really close. She's really into those buttons and I definitely get the sense that it's not that hard to press the right one Yeah, I mean if we can do it. I mean hey She can do it. We are processing your track for playback Processing your track for playback Processed your mom's track for playback. Okay now. Okay. Okay, Merritt. Okay, Merritt You never know I was gonna say I used to say that to Veronica all the time until I met her mom and then I was like, I can't say it anymore I can't I can't seriously You know Babs now. She's lovely. It's a lovely lady Thank you Moms are people too. Right. I don't think any of my friends have ever met my parents I feel like I met your dad once He's like, no, no You know why I thought that you've probably seen a picture of it. Yeah, I'm sure maybe that's all it is It was such a good picture. I felt like I met him God, I'd like mainline to vitamin b And now I'm like popping over here. I'm like Hmm B6 You're a b6 rush Whatever, whatever's the one that I used to have the patches that you slap on your body and then you feel better You can get it. I'm injected too. I don't do that You don't mainline your b6 Or b12 is it b12 or b6? I don't know. I don't know you tell me what am I putting in my body or the vitamin junky? Nobody knows Do you ever use any of those jenny? Vitamins Yeah, I'm low in vitamin d like critically low. So I have to take a lot of that That and all the other things I take all the things do you have a b12 or b6 though? No, I don't I just I thought maybe you could settle this b6 b12 No, but the internet could change the social unrest in this website. You could could be both though. Yeah Let's see. I think it's Vitamin vitamin b injections that'll tell us You could do b6 or b12. It's b12. It is b12. It's b12 Is that the one that gives you weird dreams if you do it right before you go to sleep? Is that a thing? Oh my gosh, I had the weirdest dream the other night. It was it was actually not at night It was during the day Uh-oh, jenny. I'm not a saint Ha ha do you do you know that do you know that amy schumer joke? Yeah Jenny we're not saints. I know my dream knocked tom right off the air. It was really knocked me out of the hangout for a second No, all it was is that I was watching another fantastic four movie And it was just as terrible as all the others But it took place entirely on an asteroid and Thanos kept knocking on the door It was really weird, but I was in a movie theater And it took the entire length of my nap to watch the whole movie And then I couldn't get my parking validated This was in your dream. Yeah summer summer dreams right there for you. Wow Dreaming about the fantastic four and yet another terrible version of it as if two weren't enough I like how your your movie you're like you're having like weird flashbacks to movie draft or something It's really weird. It's like well. We don't need this anymore. Let's get rid of this Like how many movie Plots do you think came out of someone's dream? Like they just dreamt of something Oh totally I had a totally vivid lucid dream like a long time ago of Godzilla facing off Cthulhu Oh, he told me he told me this one before. Yeah, it was it was really interesting. It's like I was I was hanging out with Aileen Uh, not Aileen, but Aileen and then we come across like this nuclear power plant And I find out that the source for the nuclear power plant is Godzilla in this huge chamber And he's just sleeping but because he's radioactive they use him to heat the water in the steam And then uh, we go to the controller and find this little uh, do not break unless emergency button because uh We don't really because we disturbed Godzilla's amount. He was waking up and everything was shaken So we break the glass hit the button and that just called forth Cthulhu and all the old gods Come out and then Godzilla faced off on them on the top of the mountain Except that uh, you know how Cthulhu tries to make you go mad You know with his his godlike powers. Well, Godzilla's a bird brain So there's no effect on him He just pisses him off and he just fries him and then he starts Whaling to the rest of them. It was great. That's like, oh If this was a movie I would have paid to go see it. Look it's ready. It's Ellie Thulhu Old ones mean insanity said the fish man to the boat I think you should have Cthulhu brand tuna fish Sounds delicious He really is the old man of the sea come on down to bubba old ones Our new Calamari special is to die for Literally also you'll go insane His prices will drive you insane I don't even know. All right. I have to sweet that that's gonna be funny Come on down to bubba Yeah, that's the right word right Yes, I don't know the spelling though. You should look up. You should check the spell. Yeah, that's right. Come on down to bubba It's Calamari I spelled calamari wrong Is to die for and the prices will drive you insane I'm taking total credit for that even though I didn't Even though you said I was trying to come up with an old spice lyric and my the only part that I was sure of Was at the end instead of yo ho yo ho it would be fatang fatang Old ones mean insanity said the captain to the bosson look for the fish people and jump into the ocean Everyone's gonna be like what is she even talking about right now whenever I tweet anything weird people get really confused Oh The calamari is to die for and the prices will drive you insane Someone keeps faving it and then unfaving it it's got one fave. Oh, it's me. I faved. Oh, you faved. I started immediately, okay Two faves three faves now Thank you Well Relay us I Don't have cord killers tonight cord killers was last night because uh brian brushwood is dancing the day away Oh, is he is that why he's here in la or there in a leg here? I don't live in la dance on He's on his dance dance. He is a dance on competitor and it was funny. Uh last night He came home from rehearsal Uh, and and he was like trying to memorize his choreography. Isn't great That is great. Are you gonna try the choreography? Oh, no No, I don't need to I'm not in the show That would just be bad Oh, I would pay any amount of money to see that happen like Any amount of money to see you dance? Well, you're gonna see brushwood dance. I know it's close. I don't know when dance on premiers, but um Yeah, that's that's gonna be worth that's tv worth watching. It is it is. I'm very excited about that All right, well, I guess that's a wrap. All right, that's a wrap. Thanks everybody for watching Thanks everybody. See you next time. Goodbye