 Oh oh crap god you selfish son of a ball sack. I am the son of a ball sack. Yep Hey, welcome back to our stupid rake seats at Corbyn aren't we all no and you follow the Instagram Twitter for more juicy content Thanks a page from fellow true account subscribe if you don't like button because it helps out the algorithm We so all want to fondle Today we have a another one of those Tape casts they interview off of the tape Oh, yeah, cool Ranveer Singh and Karen Johar. Oh, and but this is from about four years ago I would imagine current. Yeah So this is gully boy days gully boys But very boy we always love these tape guests there I think they're really fun and interesting and we love listening. Oh, yeah to talk as well Especially yeah, this is good. This should be a lot of fun. Here we go and a lot of energy So we're going to be in conversation that's that's a grand Entry music love for you since this is the first time a tape cast will have light wear lounge wear in conversation What do you love in it? Like I always do. Okay, so if you begin I have to press play I just want to say that I'm really happy. I'm doing this with you. Well, I would have only done this Oh, I hope there was no option. There was no choice. That's why I didn't do the first you actually without a doubt Are the greatest conversationalist is that conversationalist? Yes, you're the greatest Conversationalist that I have ever you think he asked what color the set would be We're meant to have an intense chat about our lives career choices preferences failure successes everything Praise is not one of the things that we're meant to get into already. Yes, it's a system totally Oh always it's always the downside that is It just got hot Welcome to take cast you both uniquely flamboyant artists We're very excited to hear you speak about your art and immensely successful life It's such a good concept, you know, I'm an interviewer getting in the way. Yeah conversation Will you begin? So we're gonna do all of our interviews. I'm just gonna ask you about You don't get to hear those sounds that often anymore Yeah upside down turn it the other way You're much older than Ranveer Ranveer as your fame increases How are you ensuring that stardom doesn't get in the way of craft that when people see you on screen? They believe that you're the character and not the star they see on holdings and magazine covers. I Mean that's loaded So I mean can I add to that before you answer it? So the thing with stardom is that Indian cinema it has always been about stardom. It's about positioning actors You know in a certain way that projects them as movie stars and each I think leading actor I talk about actors because that's been a certain perception the way they're introduced on from the way they stand tall The way they kind of handle a confrontation scene the way they are Romantic the way they look into the eyes of a woman all that is an image-based thing now's a new order You know which you strongly represent has come in with of course a new flavor and a new syntax But there's also at the back of everyone's head because they've grown up on this film fodder there is always a sense that these are the defining aspects of stardom and how do I Contemporize that also maintain the edge which which performance is of today and films of today demand But also create that stardom for myself. Has that been a dilemma for you Ranbir or it's happened organically I do think we're living in a time. That's very rapidly evolving The meaning of the star actor is changing To me stardom is a by-product. I love it It's it only good things come from it for me professionally personally also But I've always regarded myself as an actor and I think I did a quote By you on a significant platform actually and it was the headline said it's the age of the Actor star or star actor. So I think we're living in a time where that meaning is changed people Will give a claim love respect admiration to I think a Person who's able to play various characters if they recognize an ability in an actor to be honest to various different characters I Think that is what the new and evolved audience recognizes and appreciates The age of the superstar is kind of Agmenting because also because the mystery and mystique no longer. Yeah, that's huge social media the paparazzi Interview such as these Everything has actually taken away the aura. You know what is left is the talent. Yeah That's why I said in an interview. That's the age of the actor not necessarily the age of the star anymore and that's significant, right? Because yes, you are absolutely right the new You know the advancements in technology social media Fragmentation of everything, you know It's there is your right. There is no mystique. I don't think the new and evolved audience wants to really Look up to anybody like for heaven's sake. I even know the underwear you wear Literally they know what you wear what you sleep in where you go to eat who you meet On a regular basis or a daily basis. I mean, you know, it's just there's no mystery And it's also up to you how much you want to let them in exactly story every morning and they could like they could be in bed with you Yeah, right. There is no there is no end to it. Right. So I think for me personally The stardom came as a byproduct. I always wanted to just be an actor and you are I don't think I would I don't think I'd be able to digest my own acting if I was doing the same pulling the same tricks with every character But you haven't because I mean you play diametrically different characters And in fact, there's no way you can slot run piercing if I think of run piercing as a brand today. I'm like evil passionate lover Flip flippin frivolous young kind of lover Down to now as the new rap star in town I mean like literally like there is no kind of film or role that you haven't already Experimented with some with tremendous success. There has been some failure, but we will talk about that later But I just think that the versatility defines your presence in cinema and not necessarily the stardom So I want to keep Transforming myself and not get stuck to create that one iconic image. I think if I want one thing to be definitive of me is that I'm a versatile actor and I think in the new age Like you very rightly said that is what will get you recognition There's to be time when I grew up and my father wanted me to be an actor and he told me horse-riding see clay You know and much to my mother's despair and shattering like she nearly You know her face well because she was imagining me on a horse But anyway, there was like prequels you have to dance you have to fight you have to look a certain be here Oh, that's not your body. I'm like, none of that really matters. Can you act? I mean that's simple. Can you really that's the first question I asked a young aspirant who comes into my room boy girl Whoever and I'm like, can you act? You know, it's okay if you look gorgeous. It's okay if you have the best physique It's okay if you have beautiful genetics Can you act because there's action actor and that's one thing that people have forgotten for two decades You know and suddenly the big reminders back if you can't act you don't belong if you don't belong You must find something else to do So that's why I think this is the age where the actor is appreciated when I saw Ranbir Singh a decade ago I was like he doesn't look like a movie star at all. He should not be in the movies when I saw his performance I was like this boy is a movie star. He can act. It's the age of the actor It's the depth of the superstar I believe and it's the age of cinema. Tell that to Shah Rukh Khan and Partham It's about to cross a thousand crores or something like that. You'll always have stars What do we have to do? You have to put something in and ask me such fantastic subjects Sam I got a missing mom here How are you doing? I just wanted to ask you a couple of questions What are the lessons or values that you learned from your father and me That you think you would like to teach Yashom Juhi What are you doing? You are in the background Secondly, what part would be a single father? Do you find tough? God firstly, I want to give my mother an award for being the biggest performer on the face of this earth Because I was on my way and she said oh, what interviews this it's something It's likely that she doesn't remember We must know that moms I do not play do not mess with mom is what that means The first question is what did I learn? You know so for my parents two things I learned from my dad one for my dad and one for my mom I have to say my mom always said when you're on the right Just say it You know just say it if you're in the right don't fight shy of putting it out there You know if you feel right about something go out and say there listen if I feel I've you've drawn me And I think I'm in the right This is what they confront if you feel you're in the right and you truly believe it You're not just defending yourself and if you're in the wrong apologies That's the two things she always taught me she's saying saying sorry is Not something that weakens you it strengthens you you know Apologize for your weaknesses or your misjudgments or your misconduct is something that you must always do and I've done Whenever I've done something that I feel like I was out of line or I kind of stumbled or I you know Kind of failed or I wasn't up to expectation I've apologized beat a film an incident a situation or a comment That training she always gave me and it's got stuck in my head and when I've been in the right I've gone up to people one-on-one that I won't do in the media space But one-on-one said look what you did hurt me upset me I think I was right in this situation and I just needed to put it So you do confront yes, I couldn't when I believe I'm in the right You're not averse to conflict. No, I I used to be but in the last decade things have changed the last decade only Yeah, what's changed you ah Abandon comes with age It really does age gives you abandon, you know initially you're a pleaser then you become a neutral person You become a fighter. Okay. I'm in that lot of anything. I am you're in and the neutral phase And you're neutral but a borderline abandon also So I mean like you have both you will eventually get you will get your act together in a few years Right now you don't really you're too detached from that zone. So you'll get there I've seen it happen. Unfortunately. I'm many years senior to you decades actually Okay, thanks But secondly what my dad told me is like films flop films ahead Goodwill is everything So being good to your crew your cast your crew your technical team making sure they're comfortable making sure they're taken care of Making sure that they are Rested and just relaxed through through the process of film is more important He said an unhappy crew is a flop for me. Really you always said that he's saying what happens at the box office If your crew is unhappy and they don't like the way you've treated them that film is a failure Hmm. He's saying for me the money made from that film means nothing That's something that's in great into the into the syntax of Dharma. It's like something that we are like the way we Want to be with our cast and crew and just be good set. These are the two learnings. I think that I very strongly stand by About the kids being a single parent is really very scary and daunting because I think it takes a mother and Yeah, they are bringing a child and in many ways you could say that having Gash and Ruhi is full of love But it's also selfish decision. It's because I want that love for myself I felt there was a large Empty space in my life that needed to be filled by children. So oddly it happened naturally They call me data and they call my mother mama. They don't call her daddy They call her mama because I feel like we are co-parenting them so I'm trying very hard that both of us fulfill the roles of a mother and a father completely and It's daunting because post my mother and that thought scares me every single day I'm like, I just hope I have all the love in my heart to give them and to not make them feel Incomplete in any other way and not make them feel like they're missing out on a certain part of the parental process All I can do is love with all my heart and all I can do is also make sure they do the right thing Because I've grown up very strongly with a very strong sense of right and wrong by my parents And I want to inculcate that in yasha doing myself. I don't think I'm gonna miss anything You've got both masculine and feminine. You've got the best of both worlds natural protector You've got everything and you're going to be the best dad ever If you don't already have so will you because your wife is a born mother. Yeah, she's not a born wife She is a born mother. She is like she was born to be a mother. She's born who make a born mother. I mean I'm gonna ask you What do you have to say about relationships from me? Let's find out what the voice of God has to ask us Relationships relationship you said in an interview that marriage is a commitment Out is not an option. So whatever you have to work through you do What are the issues that a marriage between two superstars involved that another marriage may not How do you deal with them? I mean It's all good and gravy There aren't any issues where when we're home and we're together We're like where's we're super chill and We're like friends and that's the most beautiful part about it We have a lot of common ground. We can talk since we're both in like movie stars We can we have a lot more to talk about perhaps because we're in the same line of work But I think what's most significant for me as far as the most significant relationship in my life goes and that is with my wife I Think we're friends. We're besties with BFFs web buddies. Should be we can Talk endlessly We can spend endless amounts of time with each other We can spend time with each other in silence doing our own thing and be totally comfortable and I think This is a Kind of philosophy that maybe for the first time in my life I experienced embedded in a film that you made That she's your lover is also You know she's not part of that Constitution is that they're your best friend And that's that's what I love the most because Genuinely because my she's my bestie so That's so evident in your interaction though Also, I believe in my experience as a complete outsider who's not been in a strong relationship and Has not been in a marriage and will not be my experience of actors who like there's a perception that how come actors only late actors But I think there's an understanding of routine Like there's an understanding of simple things like when you're in a shot The other that your spouse will know what that means when you're in a reading Yeah, your spouse will know what that means. Yeah, you will know what it means for the picker She will know what it means for you now here are the pitfalls the pitfalls are that you are in Industry full of very gorgeous glamorous people that you always and actors are usually strong personalities and threats So that doesn't always work off stepping out of the boundary. Yep. There is in security. Yep Which is again a human phenomena. It's going to happen. Yeah, you're gonna go through that the majority of friendship I think what you share with the picker gives you honesty and clarity to kind of override those Possible potential circumstances and the time you can spend away from each other or have a rise in your life and your relationship See, I'm a very secure lover because I know The way I love what nobody else can that is quite and that that is not only evident in your demeanor but it's pretty much As far as I'm concerned, I mean I've bags myself the top I mean, I've never met anybody in my life who's Who's just who's a captivated me? the way she does and I've been getting a six year I dated her for six years and then then we got married and That's I've been in show business what eight nine years and six out of those Eight years and yeah, and that's testament to the fact that no other Person that I met Captivated me or does still date captivate me the way she does. I've never met anybody like her She's she's really something else. The other important thing to look out for And I give you like a red flag for that Is that in the relationship of two immensely successful actors? There will be a road of success and failure in board and there could be potentially Dynamics that eat into that not the abhuman situation of life Like there is a given take, you know that needs to be done Yeah, it's in those relationships and those times You know, there is like, you know, there is a one there is there See, there will come a time where one is stronger than the other Someone's having success Constantly go back to what you started with especially as actors And she's really much sure about If you can override those fears complexes and the ego tussle that may arrive you have a marriage for keeps which I am Dead sure you do Okay, here goes You were recently on the cover of a popular magazine with the headline Bollywood's most powerful man, that's true and the article said that your off-screen persona assumes an intimidating form Do you believe that your Bollywood's most powerful man? And how do you ensure that you use this power responsibly? Okay, I'm not gonna sound modest or you know, I'm even pretend to be but it's really not something that I think and believe Ever crosses my mind and I say this with my hand on my heart. I do my job. I do it to what I know best I do a lot of things So here's what it is. I Feel very bad about one thing that I want to correct in my lifetime And that's that I am liked as a filmmaker. I'm not allowed and my the most powerful No power to me is an extension of your core career So Edil was a personal film that I made for myself Oh, I never made it and I always said if this film does X amount I'm happy because I'm making this for myself and where you have I was very happy It's the only film that makes me completely happy and I know it had polarized responses Which one? What do you say? Beat and I said now I need to make a film that means we love respect and money And that's when I wanted to take a deviation and I took a while and I very quietly developed Because to me this is my first and last bitch effort at getting the mantle of being a good filmmaker I don't have that recently on Twitter. There was a Polar who are the best directors and there was Raju's name and Sanjay's names Oya's and other people's names there and there were two three people said Oh, you forgot to mention K. Joe this I hate but the K. Joe and the lady replied no He's not the most the best director. He's the most. He's the best producer and I'm like, when did I become a producer? I'm here because I love to direct movies and it's really a very rarely things that are said on social media sitting you And it's done me like a beat like it's done me like a beat And I'm like on the same day. I see this men's ex me. That's cause we powerful Meet pouting like an auntie No, you're powerful because you can make a phone call in Change the industry kind of a phenomenon because I like this idea. Okay. I'll back it I don't like this idea change careers change lives You know a powerful me. Yes Give me an availability award. You can't give me a power award So I'm not going to accept this and I will not accept like Tom Cruise saying he's not powerful Then bam, I will come on that cover and say I don't care what you think I'm powerful because I made the film I set out to make up to that point I'm not taking this and I'm not saying this with humility because I've never been that person Nothing about me is humble I'm more in your face than your own face I'm like there for you to see I'm unapologetically Unabashedly in love with the business or show business. I love strutting down red carpets. I love the paparazzi I'm ready for the airport looks I Don't think anybody denies any of that but also you're a very powerful man I'm ready for this business. I'm ready for all the drama that surrounds it. I have no problem I accept it with an open heart But am I this country's finest filmmaker? Absolutely not That was not the question. That was not the question. That's where he equates the power by that Yeah, okay, tell him tell him I'll buy a point that if you're really good at what you do at what you believe is your call Exactly what his belief of what the power is right, but you buy it. However Doesn't take away from the fact that you are perhaps the most influential figure in Indian show business again, I'm not influential. There's I see the words are heavier than the reality. I'm amiable I'm accessible and I'm affable. You know No, I have three qualities. I have which is there's power in these qualities, but that doesn't make you powerful I mean goodness nice to people. No, no, sir. I'm affable because that's my basic demeanor I'm accessible because I make myself accessible that drives me All these are true, but I'm a challenge for you, sir Which I don't have I have no self-importance problem. I have no ego. I'm like calm karna I don't give it one job Kuch bhi karna you want to go down on your bed in these if an actor's giving you a sure a technician. I have no But those issues are not mine. I don't take myself seriously I was told once by a person who told me that coming in, you know Not your office. No, my office. I'm married. We're living it. I said, no, sir Me, I'll come to your office. What is it? He said, oh, you'll come. I said, of course I'll come Just because you're a nice person that doesn't mean you're not the most powerful person in all of India You could say Corbin Miles is the star of my next film and it's good. I have a challenge I have we're gonna talk about this. We're gonna talk about this Do not to pretend you're busy when you're not this is so old-school Like today's like be available. Yeah, say you're free. Are you free on the 23rd? On your I would say He wants to be the kind of director as an on your rock that level of respect And you didn't let Ranbir answer I like all that but I don't believe all of that I don't like to believe it. I like to do my own shit, which is fine. That doesn't mean that's fine How is your waking up routine changed been compromised or evolved because last time I remember during kunday I used to wake you up And you used to tell me that your sister actually bribes you with a certain Chocolate to wake you up and get out there and go to work So, no, how does boo boo vibe you and keep it PG How does boo boo just in just in case you haven't figured it out that is Arjun Kapoor my papa What a masculine voice He really went for it I This is true. I have I'm a nocturnal creature I'm so like you're an Indian I take a long time to unwind at night. That's my wife and as such I sleep very late Yeah, and then I have issues waking up. Yep but now that I am in In Things have gotten much better. Now I reach places on time My first appointment of the day is more or less on time. And this is an early ride Yeah, it's not bad as it used to be now She has this background of being a sports person and the core of Discipline attached with things like discipline and stuff like that So she's very proper about her eating habits about her sleeping habits She makes sure she's calling me telling me chalo hogya time not come home. Go to sleep. She puts me to bed On time I wake up on time. So I'm getting into that very healthy routine. Thanks to her all her positive Influences are really doing well. Good That's great. I made a complete each other. That's wonderful. And I was I was prepared for it I was like this is gonna be good for me because I used to be a bit of an Ayash, you know Not sleep sleep late You know all all over the park now. I'm like I'm doing I'm doing good. Good boy You were a good boy. We give it all a little bit early to rise. You you've always been this potential You know quintessential husband You know like who would play this part to perfection as well because I think you were born to give love and you know And that happens when you receive I think 10% will give the other 90 So I think that's the kind of person you are and you're like this like Zoya That describes you as like this glorious teddy bear who just has love to offer and give and he'll give in abundance And you won't know when to stop that love that channel of love will just continue But yeah, I must tell you that I'm very happy that this is happening to me I know it'll help me in my profession, you know it that little bit of discipline that I was lacking has now been Now except that I'm not done on myself so the film we're gonna do can we do a later shift every day make it all night? Yes, you are the boss. You can do anything. It's the most powerful man about it. We get to do we have declared it It's a best a best Shit, I was the F's that I can't wait to begin to get on the set with you And this is to you to everything you do to everything you stand for everything you will continue to do for yourself You mr. Multi-fasted panoramic kaleidoscopic Teeniest talent once in a lifetime renaissance man renaissance man Okay, and you do look like some kind of a renaissance man yourself. But anyway, look at those shoes. Listen. I like big shoes We've ended to the students. Okay, we have n-tape to end this. Oh, we have an entity. Yeah, we have an entity Which I'm gonna pop in Pop it like it's hard It's been a pleasure listening to you Ranveer you once said that it's a great honor to be a current Johar hero because his panoramic kaleidoscopic multi-faceted talent is one of a kind We think that's true for both of you We look forward to seeing the magic you create together in fact. Thank you for being such great guests I What are they what are they referring to ducked? I don't know and what was the thing that he said that he was the most proud of I Missed that yeah, I miss that too. Um, however This was four years ago. So maybe his perspective has changed But I'm going to give you the definition of power and then reiterate something Corbin said One of the definitions of power is the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events Now here's the specification there. You don't have to Choose to be an asshole Right out your power, right? You don't have to be like choose to act on your power It does not mean you don't have but just like the people that that are white in America and refuse to believe that they have White privilege because they grew up poor because they're not a racist because blah blah blah blah blah They assume they don't have white privilege because they don't they're not a bad person They're not wealthy. They're not they've had hardships in their life. So they assume that they're not a privileged person. Yeah It's it's like the exact same thing if our friend Vicki in Mumbai called us up and said hey, Rick Corbin I have this great idea for a film that I want you guys to star in If you called us and said hey Rick Corbin, I have this really great idea for a film I want you guys to star in who do you think's more powerful? It's it. I love that he does it Obviously, he doesn't want to fixate on that to him power would be being able to make the film I want to make that people would respect as an artist But that's not what the question was about all these things can be true. Absolutely like But it's undeniable His level of power is like if you put somebody like an on your own Who I think he would say he has a lot of power because a lot of people love his artistry and right or Vishal Has influence and he uses that influence and both of those people are powerful absolutely no question But there's a step above when you're at one Just one the money you have the production house that you own the relationships you had for you have the amount of stardom You have just you could literally say like I we talked to on your ag And he said if you if you want to get something made Go talk to girl. Yeah one he was talking about in a nice way In a great way he loves he's such a nice car he wants to help everybody right and I have no doubt And that's why I think he's denying it because he's like that sounds like a mean word to me No, I'm not me and I don't think he is mean at all There's nothing mean about being a powerful person. You can't powerful people can be mean Yeah, those do not coincide there, but the thing you can't deny. No your power I mean just it's just he could wake up one day and decide he's gonna shut his company down How many people lose their jobs because of them? That's a level of influence and I think Renvier before Karen cut them off Yeah, he was like trying to explain him. It's like I get what you're saying I understand what you're saying, but that's not the point, but yeah, you could literally launch anybody you want Yeah Can no one you don't have a higher up to tell you whether it's okay to do If you wake up one day, I want to make a movie you could make a movie I mean you could argue like some other people and maybe other industries Could have more power you could like a Rajamuli or you could say like but it especially in Hindi cinema No, there is nobody more powerful and I I we've said this before we He's so articulate. He's so intelligent He knows the industry inside and out and I I do look forward to Him making choices that are more in sync with that desire to be the kind of director He wants people to see him as He's said it himself It's hard for him to take off the Bollywood producer make money hat. Yeah, and I don't think he should know He can do both. I think it's just also cool to eat because obviously people don't put him in the conversation with No, on your ox vashals. No, the people is artistic Films like that. Yeah, because he's made For lack of a better word bubblegum films, but they're also they're also the more loved films Yeah, they're wonderful. Tell me somebody doesn't So you have a film like header which we consider a cinematic masterpiece right and tell people what do you love more header or DDLJ? But that's for him is I want to have the vashal bard wash respect that to me is the power and I understand I get it, but also But his film with alia and Ranveer I'm Ranveer. I'm very much looking forward to it this year I think it comes out in July or something like that. They pushed it But also I'm expecting Karen Johar. Yeah, I'm not expecting vashal. No, I think that would be a big mistake I think it would be great to see that I would love that I think it would give him great satisfaction And then I also would love to have those same questions posed now four more years later on and with experience and with life How many new challenges? Maybe it's no question that Ranveer love stardom what they should every aspect They should do a variety interview with a ball. They would let go of Ranveer or a different artist like they do with right I wish I don't know if you've seen those I know ever since she was like 16 She's gone to variety and it's like five or six years now in a row Yeah, and so like she says how she has how many Instagram followers she has How many like if Ward she has and such like she sees it and she watches it back Right to see the difference. She was it's actually really intriguing. I really enjoy those But yeah another fantastic one always into these fun to especially listen to these two men talk Yeah, as well So let us know what other videos of theirs we can react to and which we are next Ranveer and Karen Johar films that we should watch Let us know down below