 The fact that the the program is housed in two institutions, the NIH and and the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health was really one of its strengths when I decided to come here, but I have to admit thinking about working at two huge institutions was sort of daunting. Yeah I can imagine that it is, and it's like double the adjustment when you come into a program that you've got two places to learn. And while I do have to admit that there are extra cultural and logistic adjustments that have to be made when you're learning two large institutions, I also can think of a lot of ways in which this benefits our students having these two institutions. And since you've just lived through it I wonder if you would mind talking a little bit about what your experience has been like. And one of the things that comes to mind is the the clinical rotations and and the advantages that we have as students to be involved with both the NIH and the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health. So while I was able to do rotations with scientists and clinicians here at the NIH, I was also able to take advantage of opportunities at the Johns Hopkins Hospital, which is one of the most well-known academic hospitals in the country. So that was definitely one thing that's really clear in my mind about the benefits of being at both institutions. Yeah I'm glad you raised that because I do think our students really do benefit from having a multitude of clinical rotation experiences because we have these these two homes really. And in addition to that I think I'd like to just highlight that you have the access to a lot of faculty experts in both institutions as well. So that helps us in our teaching that we have people at the NIH who can teach really high level genetics and genomics courses and also help to advise our students in those areas. And then at Hopkins we're situated within a school of public health but in a department of health behavior in society where there are more than 40 faculty who are doing a wide variety of different kinds of public health research through a social science lens. So both institutions really do bring different kinds of advantages to our students. And it's it's wonderful because it feels like you're getting the best of both worlds. And in terms of the the academic opportunities I mean they're they're vast. You know we get invitations and and emails all the time to different academic talks and lectures and things. I mean really it's almost too much to to handle at times but it's it's great knowing that it's available. And even though we are sort of straddled between these two institutions I think the the genetic counseling program has really done quite a good job at finding its home with both. You know and you know really developing relationships with with people at the School of Public Health and the Health Behavior and Society Department and then also here at the NHGRI. So it's been something I've actually really appreciated about the program.