 Boom, what's up, everyone? Welcome to Simulation. I'm your host, Alan Sokian. Very excited to have Jessica St. Michelle of All That Is joining us for her second episode. Woo-hoo! Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. So good to see you again, co-creator. Co-creator, yes. There's been lots more co-creating that will be unpacking this episode. Those that don't know Jessica St. Michelle's shamanic guide, Mystic and Chandler, and you can find her links in the bio below. Alright, so since October of 2018, you came out as a Mystic and a Chandler. Yes, on this show. It's kind of like, alright, here we go. And then I rushed to make sure I called my family the next day so that they weren't going to be, you know, totally blindsided. Still blindsided, but... Still blindsided, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. So you came out on the show and then you shared it with your friends, and then what was the receptivity from that, and from family too? You know, it's actually been really cool. I got to spend eight, nine months in LA, which was fantastic and amazing, and the most challenging time of my life for sure in so many ways I expanded. And I really appreciate some key people like you and really dear friends that supported my gift, that saw the value of it, and then kind of helped give me some steps to, you know, elevate that a little bit more to share with other people. And what's been so dear and incredible is that many of these people they challenged for even nine months later, they still talk about it, you know, they still mention it, they still say how much it helped them to deliver these messages that came in. And so that's just been such an incredible experience. And I certainly want to help to maybe demystify a little bit what channeling is, because I don't think people need to go back and watch that first episode. I can kind of distill it down for the audience. Yeah, let's do that. Okay, so if you think about going on to the TV and you're scrolling through all these channels, you're like, you know, I feel like watching the history channel, and okay, what's on the history channel? Oh, it's not Asian Egypt. Okay, cool. I'm like the TV, like you can scroll through and find what kind of channel, where do you want to go to get a deeper insight, clarity or guidance or a message about something that's happening in your life. And so I'm, I'm like the broadcast system, like I pull down that, that information, and then I become the speaker. So then I share it. That's kind of the simplest way, I think to say it. But we're all channels, like we all are connected to divine source, all of us. And it just shows up in different ways. But if you think about anyone that goes into a peak state or flow state, artists, athletes, all that, they're channeling, they're channeling the energy through them and what they do. So for me, how I channel, among other things is delivering messages. Yeah, you give the really relatable examples that we're all channels that we, we all are connected to source and for us to be able to take those moments of, of infinite expansiveness to connect to that source, even through something as simple as our breath, that, that is a, that that state to be constantly tapping into is so empowering and so important. And it can be done like you said, we just had Athena Kim on the show and she was talking about how she's a channel for all of her art that she makes painting on massive canvases. And these types of, of relatable examples of how for you, you, you said maybe not all of us are like, can connect to all the channels though. Yeah. So, so how, but then how do you end up helping open up the channel for someone that is asking for something specific? Because sometimes you've done like Abraham Lincoln, but then you do like all different types of things, ancient, other ancient wisdom, all future stuff. Yeah. How does it work? How does it work? So what I do is I, I consider myself a spiritual athlete. So I'm doing what I can to raise my vibration and my frequency and doing my own self exploration to, to work on my vibration to be able to access those higher points of frequency. So if you have a specific question that you have that you would like to get some clarity on, I love working with people, they're like, I don't know why this thing happened in my life or this thing has been keeping me up or I don't know where to go next with this. And, and another thing they think about is, if they had such an open ended question, it's like walking up to the biggest library you've ever seen in your life, and I'm here to take you to where you want to go. So if you're like, you know, I'm interested in love and relationships, like, okay, so I'll take you to this section of love and relationships and you'll have, and, but the more drilled down you get into the specific of what you want, the more specific I can provide a guided message for, if that makes sense. So what I do is I say, okay, who here has a message that's in the highest good, highest purpose, highest love and highest service for you. Because I care so much about that level of integrity and what comes through. And I love the messages. So I'm still present to you. So when the message comes through, it's just like, I shift a little bit, but it's surrendering. And it's the most joyful state that I can be in. Like I'm smiling right now, just thinking about it, because when I get into the channeling state, and I'm, I'm surrendering to, you know, this message that comes through, while still being conscious as well. And so then that's, so it could be Abraham Lincoln, it could be Lakshmi, it could be angels, it could be Gaia, it could be, you know, the Pleiadians, it could be everything and anything, your higher self, people that have passed on, like everything is consciousness, everything is consciousness. So to tap into your higher self can be just as wise as the Buddha, because they're all connected to that divine source of energy and truth. Yeah, the library analogy is really good. Take me to the love and relationship section. And then how do you then open up the channel for whatever and surrender to whatever's coming through from the love and relationship section of all that is through you, and then to the other, how does that process of surrendering work, just to trust in what's coming through? Yeah, so like when my body moved like that, that's like the energy moving through, like the bait. So usually when I'm channeling for someone, I'm like, okay, if he knows my body moving like this, it's because energy's starting to come through. So that's one way of how I know that there's a message that wants to come through, that's ready to be shared. And that's one way. I also use a pendulum, a divination tool, so that, you know, it's like I'm kind of like, it's kind of like if like crackly, like, oh, I'm hearing this name or this name or this name, and then I use my pendulum, and then once I like confirm is that it's like I like plug in, and then it comes through. Yeah, that's how my understanding of it is right now. Almost as though maybe like for others that want this to be relatable, maybe it's something like when you ask me a question, like we ask like, what's the most beautiful thing in the world? Do you ask me that? Like sometimes people will like look through, like take a moment instead of react right away, and they'll kind of like, they'll like look or feel through themselves and through what they know, and they'll be like, and then pull it down. And that's the one that gets channeled through them. Something like that. Something like that. Yeah. And you know what this image just came to me? Do you remember those really old telephone switchboard operators that kind of plugged in, you know, they they call, you know, you're filing saying, hey, I want to connect to so-and-so. They're like, OK, hold please. And then they will pull out the plug and then they plug it into the next thing. You know, I think it's a way to operate those. Wow, he's in an old antique museum. But, you know, in the same way, it's like, OK, you want to connect to blah, blah, blah, OK, cool, you know, and it's like plugging into it and then and then being the speaker. Yeah. And it's it's really interesting because I I also noticed that there's times where I have my inner conflict because I hear the messages coming through and I'm like, oh, I don't want to say that because I care about how the other person is going to respond. So then there's my own like inner workings of stepping really stepping aside because a channel just like the TV station, the TV channel is a discriminant. Like, oh, this is a horrible thing that I'm saying right now. Or oh, this is the most incredible thing, you know, like it's just delivering information. But you are discriminating a little bit. I was, you know, and I'm working. That's my humanity. This is this is an object that has no humanity. It's, you know, just delivering information. So for me to like have the human human in me that's like, oh, I don't know how I'm going to say this because a lot of it too is my own translation, you know, it's not like I mean, I kind of hear the words like here, like as it's coming through, but up here it's just energy. And then it's like translating through. So there's there's a lot of components to it. But like having the being committed to being a messenger then for a lot of channels, that means being able to step out of the judgment of what's right or wrong, good or bad, yes or no and just saying it for what it is and then trusting that your soul wanted you to hear the message that I'm delivering and then I and then for me to like and then let go of that, you know, so if you were to walk away and be like, well, shit, that's not what I wanted to hear. I can't take that on like I have to trust that that's, you know, otherwise we're not doing your jobs. I'm not doing mine. So normally it's because there's some sort of a growth that is happening between two nerve endings of all that is, like you and someone else and that there's a channel that's being open for you to communicate something of like growth to the other ending something like that. And there's another thing too. I was actually, we were playing with like this little electrical device the other day and and this, the man had the grounding piece, the copper and he took my hand and I felt the current from his hand to mine from this electrical device. Well, then I held someone else's hand and then I felt the energy current in my hands going to the next person. You know, so in a way, like I'm the electrical current that's running from source to you, you know? Yeah, and we can tap into that ourselves, but you have to become a spiritual athlete to get better at it. I mean, it's just it's development. Like an artist doesn't become an artist. Basketball players are starting to become three-pointers immediately. You know, all of it. All of his development, but each one at that level. And I'm not saying I'm there yet. I've been shy for over 10 years. You're training for the Olympics. Yeah, you know, and it's a flow state and those athletes really understand the end game and then they're going to do whatever they can when they've reached a level of accuracy and performance, well, what's the next level? How can I go to the next peak? So they're always finding ways to pull it in and that's what I'm doing in my own life as a mystic and as a channeler and a healer and a coach and you know, all these things that I'm pulling together because I want to offer the most incredible experience that I can for every person trusting in that the divine is working through me and then I'm pulling all the tools I have here in this human life to really help everybody elevate to be their full potential. So huge, I mean, it's a, I guess that's a calling. Yeah, it's just been like kind of dozens of these channels, if not even like a hundred or so. Oh, yeah, I've channeled over, yeah, way over a hundred and it's amazing the insights. Like I, one of my favorites is I channeled some of my friend of mine's higher self who is sex god and for him to say like, you know, have fun with life. Like life is an orgasm, like just have fun and play and feel it and it was so cool. I love what I do so much is that as he's coming through me, I can feel that energy. So then I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, like I can feel like what it is to like feel like life is like on the verge of an orgasm like that, but it's beautiful and that's how life's been created. And I've just, I've, and so I've been on my own personal journey. So like coming back to that space again of like the life is meant to be joyful and there are tough times and there are darkness and dark points, but that's part of the journey, the hero's journey. Yeah. And then the life being an orgasm, this can lead us into well, let's stick to, I just wanna hit that point and we can revisit it. Just that if it is for every single one of us a constant orgasm, we just gotta make sure that there's still a playground for the grandkids. So we have to also work on solving some of the pressing challenges that our planet faces. So it's like a delicate balance between those. And the orgasm is life force. Is life force. So it's not about I'm shirking all my duties and responsibilities to go have tons of sex. That's not what it's about. It's about coming from an alive in state and being from that state of joy and bliss, creating like where does like, because that joy state is you connecting to source. So from that state, how can I solve these problems? That's a big part of Tantra is like taking in the energy and circulating it and unliving yourself and raising your bliss state and then creating from that space. Because if you're trying to create from a state of, and I've been doing this, like trying to create from a state of anxiety, of overwhelm, of doubt, of uncertainty, you get nowhere, you get nowhere. But to me it's like if you're coming from a place of joy and bliss and liveness and sexiness, like it's just like things become so much more vivid and colorful and impossible. Yeah. And then so this has been hero's journey. Yes. For you. Yeah. Hero's journey, yeah. Two years, at least. I'm sure we go through it multiple times again and again. But yeah, I really started for sure the last year I've been on a deep hero's journey because what I kind of discovered yesterday is nothing explored, nothing discovered. And I can hypothesize all I want about life and what could be and look at these, being led to these places. I'm like, oh no, this is really scary. I do not wanna go there. But that's my mind. And yet my body is guiding me into a place. And then finally when I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go check out and see what this is. Like being willing to go through that darkness and now to be on the other side of it and being like, wow, I really can lead people through hero's journeys. Yeah. You know, being willing to surrender to a plan greater than I can see, trusting that the divine source knows what my desires are and what I'm most afraid of and doesn't wanna harm me. You know, they want to help me get to the state of living my divine self on this earth because the divine seeks to experience his self through everybody. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And then what is the darker night of the soul? What is that? So I have my version, but I feel like there's a message that would like to come through about the dark night of the soul. Okay. Okay. So this is my divine self coming through. Ah, okay. Jessica likes to take things so seriously. And we love that about her. The dark night of the soul, this is a concept that has actually had a tremendous amount of judgment toward this feeling of being lost, of confusion, of doubt, of uncertainty and of things being upended in life when everything seemed to be going one way and then on a dime, it seems like things shift and then it's not, you can't get back up again and it's not going back on that path again and things aren't working the way that they used to and there's this, it drops each person into this state of, like for Jessica, she was literally on her knees. I came to a day where I was like, if this is my last day, I'm okay. Like that, like, and I'm feeling emotional. They get to that level of so, feeling so unworthy and then like, I haven't contributed enough on this planet and what am I even here to do and why does it even matter? It's like, all of these like dark things that like I have not acknowledged, thought about, you know, like, I mean, they've kind of been here but to like really come and face that and then thank God, like, you know, there were like angels that came in to like kind of like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, let's get you back up on your feet. Like, you know, okay, like, okay, nine on one, you know, like we gotta help not in a, you know, mortal way but like in a divine way, like let's send in the troops to like help her remember again because, and every single one of us go through that where we are brought to our knees and being like, why am I here? What is the point? Like, why am I doing all of this for what? Like the puzzle piece that your unique fit is in civilization is like unworthy or not divine or doesn't have its place and it's like rotting and so you need to call in the troops to help that puzzle piece awaken towards its divinity and it's fit in the civilizational scheme over time. Yeah, and I think there's something about doing shadow work, which, you know, there's a lot of things about shadow work and there's a lot of beautiful things about seeing like these, basically these parts of ourselves that we've ignored or that we find, that we deny or that we push away and I've spent many months doing that and it also got to a point where I just kept spiraling and spiraling and spiraling as I'm going deeper and deeper into this abyss of like these dark places in myself that I hadn't been willing to look at and to really reach that point where I'm like, you know what, today's my last day at universe, I get it, someone else will finish my mission. If I'm meant to live another day, then I'll wake up, not in a way, and I think too that there's times where it's like you kind of like say something like that but you're like, I don't really mean it, I just want to see. I meant it. So again, to go to that place, you know, to finally be moving out of the other side of that and thank God it's so much faster, I can understand, like I can understand what brings people to their knees where they feel so desperate and so hopeless and I was like, and I've had, I mean, I feel like I have a lot to offer, I feel like I've achieved a great deal in my life and still to get to that point after all that I've accomplished and I can be on my knees beyond anything that I've ever experienced and so it's been a really hugely big hero's journey and to keep moving forward and keep moving forward and the only thing that I can say that I really wish is that I didn't reach out to people, I didn't reach out to you, I felt like I need to do this on my own and the thing is is that with the collective awakening as it is and there's certain people that are being called to wake up before the masses because if everyone were to wake up at the same time, it would be panemonium outer chaos and that's from Phil Good, he's an amazing channeler in LA, I have so much respect for him and his teachings are incredible, I've really, really leaned into him quite a bit. So for some of us that are waking up and we're going through, we're doing all the shit work, we're doing all of it, all of us are being brought to our knees and we have to get back up and then be able to share and help everybody else when they start, you know it kind of happens in ways, that's my understanding right now. So it's like the early adopters on the end of the bell curve of understanding source and spirituality, these types of things, the divine purpose that we all have on the planet and then going through the process of understanding that pretty much nobody else is getting it right now and that there's a lot of updates in civilization, social fabric that have to happen so it's kind of like taking the burden on the back, updating the world we live in, working with the other ones that are understanding source and spirit and then slowly over time just helping identify other people that are like kind of there, that get it a little bit, start getting it more and more and then the big waves come in the center of the bell curve, those larger waves of awakening come over time and it'll be really reflective in our news feeds, in our entertainment, in our content, movie content, things like this that the content isn't just derp, derp, derp, derp waste of time but it's gonna be stuff that's like you are a divine being that has a unique role in this planet that is connected to all of nature, things like that that are just like whoa, like and that's gonna become like a norm like everything will have some like permutation of that in it, things like that, that's a very beautiful and exciting future that it is and it's also terrifying because it's so much of us in the unknown and then thank God for the pioneers that came before us and you know we've called in galactic beings there is no other place to be in this galaxy than on earth, truly like this is the place to be again crediting feel good and so this is like the grand this is like the grand dance happening right now the biggest dance, this is like the best playground of the galaxy yeah one we can clear up so much karmic things because here is duality yes rest of the universe really doesn't have that kind of experience but here is duality, free choice, free will and oh by the way you forget that you're a divine being so you're moving through things you're clearing out karmic agreements and you know all these there's so much to be done here that so many souls come racing here to experience that because the opportunity that they can jump kind of like up level it's like they have like a fast track in a way to up level in a different way so and the things that we gain as experience are like being able to handle the free choice the free will, the duality, the forgetting that we're a divine being so like remembering those things as we're birthed here levels us up and so that's kind of part of the like why there's a big rush because there's so many cool like accolades to get well and the earth is in a real volatile place like it has to work if our earth does not make it it will affect the entire universe which a lot of us don't think about so that's another reason why you've got future galactic beings like so many benevolent beings from other planets that are incarnating here because they're like dude we gotta like we gotta shift this we gotta move this up Interesting so benevolent beings from other areas of the universe are incarnating on the planet to help the spiral of awakening Yeah I mean there's forces for all you know for all that is there's forces of everything but again like to be in this space of free will and free choice and you know and then it's cool you know you start seeing people like as you're kind of like wake up a little bit more and you start seeing people like oh I know you oh yeah we've done stuff before like no we're here we had this thing like okay it's definitely what it's felt like yeah like you and I and Ron yeah Ron is amazing we love you Ron that's definitely what it's felt like yeah he's been quiet I love Chinese food chicken and mushrooms 34 it's too long um you know it but you know so again like I just for and and and also too like our earth is being bombarded with solar flares and there's just so much energy because it's the the earth is moving from 3d to 5d and we need our earthly our human body also yeah what does that part mean it's just like a higher dimension where the the density of this earth and working in duality you know it ups it to much more of a unification um existence and you know it's really profound and beautiful um I guess you'll look and feel good for more of that I don't know why I keep plugging him but it just is like he's been a really good teacher for me so I certainly don't want to say it's mine yeah we plug exactly we plug the good teachers we stand on their shoulders also feel good get your ass on the show let's make that shit happen yeah we'll we'll invite you um so so the so we're the up leveling of consciousness though awakening that that happens up levels society to from 3d to 4d to 5d where it's almost as though like we're all walking around as like we're connected to source on like a moment to moment basis yes and so that's the one of the things too is to be in the moment um be in the present moment uh feel good talks about this he says be a dot so like like really not planning anything being so in the moment that that's all that is because that is all that is and that's one of the things that I really learned in my own journey the last couple of days and and having experiences and uh sessions with friends and clients that like it doesn't matter everything leading up doesn't matter and everything to come doesn't matter because all it's only one moment it's only this so all all that is is also all that is like in this present moment yeah and so when our minds wander and they're trying to process it's like oh I need to understand and it's important because it helped us get to this level of of existence that you know we're here so much but um by really tapping into our bodies our intuition and and channeling into that that soul that source um is really incredible so for me so but to get back to the yes have we gotten here before in the last like thousands tens of thousands hundreds of millions of years have we gotten to this point of getting from 3d to 5d and then civilization collapses yeah I mean if you look at Lumeria, Atlantis, the Atlanteans like there were higher higher sources higher beings that were less dense they were more frequency based that were here on this earth yeah a long time ago and they're still here some of them still hard and what do you oh some of them are still here okay yeah they say if like you if you're right I've been told if you're if your frequency is high enough then you can see them just like some people can see angels you know that's a very high frequency and some people can see them some people can see them interesting so there's like gatekeepers in science that like prevent spiritual wisdom from like because it's like can I prove it with the scientific method that we're empirical here and then it's like well look at the ascension papers by saying that like we don't know anything there's no absolute truth of anything on the scientists cannot prove anything beyond reasonable it's not possible because we have the veil of unknowing that's been placed on this earth that's been thinning but but they cannot prove anything to the absolute degree of certainty so none of it is it's all 99.9 even that but it still comes down to your truth so who am I to tell you that how you feel about this certain subject is right or wrong because that is your truth and in this moment so if we can say like the molecular composition of water is a certain way and the gravitation break it down even more break it down even more break it down even more and there's never a point what a string theory it's not it's not there that's from and I mean that's kind of what I've read so but people can believe what they want and that's okay that's the whole point of the source code and maybe the source code can't be tapped into in the 3d world but it can be maybe in the higher which is um let's also let's also but I do you want to say about the closed that off yeah okay the hero's dream I just I want to say for the people that are in the dark night of the soul and that I mean I'm talking about like um fatigue they can't get out of bed uh super depressed they have no desire to live like the way that you know life is right now um or they're feeling so so overwhelmed or just crushing um debilitating anxiety like all that these are all um especially if it's kind of coming out of nowhere these are part of like the symptoms of the big energies that are coming into our planet we're trying our bodies are trying to like get it out so we're feeling all these things are coming out so it's all part of the process just to say you know connect to the people that you love that make you feel good you know the people that like remind you of your greatness and um and do the things that bring you joy and I've like I so wish I had really really done that because I did it and it just stopped took me a lot a lot deeper and it finally brought me to my knees and then thank god for literally human angels that came in and like you know pick me up so over the course of a month my life is like completely changed and I'm so grateful for it um but these are the times where we have to help pick each other up we have to and and and I have so much more humility now like I I feel like I've been very very humbled and that and also not having the judgments that I used to like six months ago five months ago yeah yeah they're like gone and that's another part I think too of the clearing it's like do you want to be a leader you want to be an ascended master on this planet you want to do the things you're here to do well like let's slough off this stuff and make you think that you're super super awesome because guess what everyone's awesome we're all here for a purpose and you have no reason to thumb your nose at anybody else that's right when you should be helping everybody that comes across your path and yeah and a distinction of that is if people ask you for help help but for you to jump in and be like oh they need help they need rescuing not your job you're not your job ah because you're not here to save anybody yeah yeah because if you were to look at them like oh my gosh they really need some help I should like jump in there that's you divide that's you denying the divinity in them that they can't connect to their god source and get what they need and pull it in or ask for it by us assuming that we know what's better for them it's not part of our plant that's not part of our path that's their journey to honor it and to be supportive and there it's I mean it's a balance that's love like I mean yeah hard for me to say but like because there were so many times while I was in this state like please someone save me please someone save me please someone save me please someone someone anybody please save me I need help um and it was like it was I wasn't going to get the help in the way that I thought I needed but I got exactly okay someone's house is on fire we help they don't like ask for help yeah I mean that's moral danger that's moral danger but or like even metaphorically their house is on fire like they're like not cleaning their room they're like they don't know what their north star is they're not figuring it out they're asking for help kind of like what you were doing and if we're like not yeah so anyway so there's a better questions rather than telling them this is what you need to do asking in the court you're an interlocutor you ask people the questions to define to divine their own truth okay so you can offer the support what how can I support you right now what is it that you need let them tell you what it is that they need but for you to say oh it looks like you need it did it did it yeah ask the questions to get what they need yeah yeah one of the best questions that um when my dearest friends asked is like what is the most support thing I can do for you right now and when someone says I don't know then what then you say okay well let's check in with your body what is it like if you were just to ask your body what is it that I need right now what do I need what would help me and then hopefully they know how to do that but then again if they're like I don't know how to do that like I don't know what I need um I will see this is what I'm doing I'm placing my hands on my body on one of my chest and one of my solar plexus and I'm saying like okay what do I need right now and just take a breath knowing that there is no wrong answer and that allowing my body to say whatever it is I need a snack I need food I need a snack right now I'm hungry like that's what my body is saying you know it can be as simple as that and it doesn't or you know but if we're so freaked out I I've gotten to like a really places of desperation where I was like willing to like do things I would never have done in my whole life you know and but it's all part of the process it's all part of the journey there's just things again like if you're willing to go into those dark place I don't want to say dark it's not about dark places you guys it's just there's things to get out of us that don't serve us anymore they need to come to the surface we need to move them out so that can be a lot of things but it's so absolutely part of the hero's journey like if anyone studies the hero's journey at all like it's nearly to a T every single one of us goes through a hero's journey we've also gotten to the point where we pass along some sort of a guidance or like a principle to someone else and then they go whoa that revolutionized my life I didn't even ask you for but it revolutionized my life so it's kind of like I'm trying to figure out where we ask questions and just listen and we're with people old space all this type of stuff channel all stuff but also that there's like sometimes it's not even asked directly but there can be some something that's brought forth that can then help them achieve what what the what the desire they didn't even know so yeah I'm falling that this is this is a complicated question but here's the thing like Alan I just got this message from your from your father and he's saying that blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah and you're like I didn't ask for that okay I did that to one of my best friends I literally I was like your father's coming through right now I don't want to hear it your father's coming through right now and he's saying da da da da and it it actually caused a bit of a riff for a little bit of time she's like I didn't ask you for that message so and take that out of messenger just in everyday life oh you need to go do da da da I didn't ask you what I need to do but then we also say like wait like instead of me being like so defensive about no I didn't ask you for it then there's also me going what does she say what did my dad just say like what did my father say like was there some important signal in there that I'm declining because I'm not seeing the divine moment that potentially just happened or it could be the opposite that you are not seeing the person not needing it right now so I see both of those yeah and I wonder like which one which one which one and so I think we can lay out that there's a lot of to still break down let's let's um let's move on I'm there's still a lot more to talk about within heroes journey dark night so those were really good subjects um so we mentioned this throughout I want to I want to understand it at a deeper level from what Alan drink this water yeah no this water take it take this one yeah yeah so yeah yeah like me exactly versus me saying like Alan would you like a glass of water and you're like you know I got one right here okay cool yeah yeah take it that's the difference that that's it's an excellent way to um illustrate the difference and if if like literally I'm about to die and I'm not going to drink the water and you're like fucking drink the water you know and I do and you save my life maybe a year down the line I'm gonna be like I'm fucking grateful you saved my life thank you so anyway there's yeah there's there's nuance I really like that point that's that's a really cool um it's a really good analogy for it okay so let's explore um where we were at a little bit ago um unpack this deeper so we I think are um there's a couple things first is there's 100 billion puzzle pieces humans that have puzzle piece their way into finding out what their role was in civilization and now like the puzzle's gotten fucking a lot bigger the hundred billion now there's eight billion that are like all trying to figure out what their north star is for their puzzle piece what their role is some puzzle pieces aren't figuring it out as as quickly but the fact that all of these puzzle pieces have been building this planet and there's all this beauty of free will free choice the duality the remembering that we're doing all these types of things that this playground that this planet is one of the most and it's hard because you have to literally take yourself out of your first person perspective which is really hard to do first an exercise in empathy you can get behind another person's perspective as best you can then you can get yourself out of your body and you can think of like okay well how is like the city doing how is like san francisco as a city doing well there's the ocean that feels really good there's like a massive concrete jungle area filled with people that have severe trauma sometimes and that doesn't feel as good then you go out you feel the whole country you feel the whole earth then you go past the earth until what exists beyond the earth and potentially where we came from and this is all part of source but i'm trying to get people to take themselves out of just their own head perspective and then get themselves to these more more like we are on a playground that is a planet that we have to take care of because it's the house that gives us the nutrients we need to survive yes and so that point there should be like ah okay i get it we have to take care of the house we live in aha okay the next thing is take yourself to the historical timeline and you see where we came from and where we're going and then that is this idea of holy cow like there's a massive awakening that's spiraling upward and then now we are at a very pinnacle moment of figuring out a transitional moment of awakening and how do we enable the grandkids and their grandkids to have a playground that is full of just absolute awesomeness and so that that essence is i think like it's so important to wrap the mind around so important to to to understand this is what nourishes us this is where we want the playground to look like and that's potentially what some of our roles are is to make this whole narrative makes sense for the awakening is your question how do you feel about that i feel that we have been uh we've been led to believe a complete untruth in that um what our roles here and the importance of it and um what we're here to do i mean look outside what you know how many people are actually outside enjoying the earth for what it is you know and and i understand we've got jobs such a conversation but time and again if you think about the collective that we're all connected to each other do you think that coming from a state of anxiety stress and overwhelm is a higher frequency or a lower frequency than operating from a space of bliss and joy and if we're creating the likeness of god do you think that you know do you think that we that god is overwhelm anxiety i mean he is all those things but you know but the bliss and the joy like why is sex pleasurable why is it even why why do we get to experience the pleasure of it why is it pleasurable why is that potential to experience it why are there parts on us that are there only to exist for pleasure for no other reason there is no functionality of it except to have pleasure why is it that we have the opportunity to circulate our energy and experience in a way that we can connect to the divine and have our own channel our own connection to it rather than through religion you know why do those things exist and how is it not closer to the divine than running around and do you think that people are living in a space of bliss and joy do you think that they're going to take care of things better you know when they have an appreciation for the love and the beauty of one of one another of their connection to themselves with the earth when did they make better choices from that state yeah you know so it's you know so much of what i've been learning uh has been about how can i make joy the center of my experience and do anything from a place of joy because who wants to play with people that are joyful and who wants to play with people that are like you know that that are just uh you know just you know and all of us good everything's perfect there's no you know and that's a weird thing to say let me rephrase everything is exactly as it is everything we're on the Dow right exactly as it is and we haven't lost it and we need to find it it's exactly exactly as it is and this is something like i really i actually challenged it for a client and it was a huge huge that shifted my paradigm so much because i started saying everything is perfect as it should be and i was like no no no because if you say something is perfect then you become attached to the perfection and then everything else is deemed imperfect but for you in this moment is perfect five months from now that might not be perfect you know so and then everything is as it should be well if i'm telling you well you know what everything is as it should be alan so right now you know so then you're having a conflict and you're feeling bad that i should be grateful when i'm not feeling grateful i should be so now i'm feeling bad that i'm not feeling grateful and that it you know does this thing um or everything is as it's meant to be that really throws people on their head but to say like everything is exactly as it is like to like when i feel into the energy of it because that's something so huge too is the energetics and everything that we say and what we express in in this world um everything is exactly as it is like there's just there's like this solid solidness to it and to move each moment being like everything is exactly as it is everything is exactly as it is and i'm you know yeah it's a good just a different way of operating not being attached to good bad right or wrong perfect and perfect because everything is exactly as it is everything is exactly as it is and we also have a north star that we're pursuing and that yeah that type of thing jessica thank you again for coming on yeah thank you so much embody that's the difference yeah you embodied a state of consciousness yeah literally rather than the intellectual rather than your mind yeah yeah thank you for attitude for 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