 Paul Vittles, I think, with this was to Siga Lag. Anna, when you say a thousand ideas were put forward, 400 valid, who decides which ideas are valid or not and why? So how do you explain to a citizen that their idea isn't valid? Hi, you see me? Okay, we have criteria that the ideas need to meet with the financial criteria. Each district has a budget. We divide 3.2 million euros between the 10 districts. We divide them both on how many people live in the districts and equally among among them. So there's the financial criteria. The idea has to be implemented on city land. It needs to be in accordance with rule of law and it needs to be those are the criteria I can remember now. So we have the administration does this with specialists in each field. So that's an administrative decision which we which I spoke about earlier would be nice to to have more open and transparent so that we could have some more more more people understanding of how we reach these decisions. Great, thank you very much. Okay, next up Mika and Matt or M&M as you're being referred to one slide over by some people. Did you look at the demographics of founders and teams to observe trends in the type of individuals that seem to survive in the field the longest? You kind of touched on this when you talked about the kind of, you know, maybe kind of shortening narrowing diversity of founders that yeah, have you looked at the demographics? Yeah, sure. We did not ask for demographic information. Mika, you could probably reflect on who is in the room because the survey was anonymous but we're definitely interested in this question and I've actually considered doing a deeper dive research like the timeline piece of really digging into diversity of founders in Civic Tech. Yeah, and what I can say is anecdotally not based on data is that it is exactly what you think it is which it is largely white male and people with a degree of greater privilege. Male, pale and stale is my society. Yes, we and you know there's a little bit of a challenge in collecting this data because we do not want to assign identities to people we have to get the information from them. So, you know, recognizing that that is an excellent question and it is one that we absolutely want to dig into further. Is there something that we as individuals or as a community can do about this kind of diversity? Well, you mean in terms of who gets funding and gets a chance to start something now? Absolutely. I mean, I think the Civic Tech field overall starting maybe two or three years ago has really begun to pay more attention to who is funded. I don't know whether that has led to a shift in exactly the ratio of who founds things and who gets grants, but at least we're seeing more rhetorical attention to it and that's a start. So, perhaps this is something that we should be encouraging philanthropists, grant funding bodies, you know, contractors that are hiring Civic Tech organizations. Should we be demanding more of them in terms of their kind of giving data? Should we be demanding more of them? In a moment of where we're quote near extinction, I don't know what exactly we should be demanding. I will say that I do know that a number of funders certainly illuminate has begun making capacity grants available for organizations that want to do their own work on diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility. We at Civic Hall received one of those grants last year and have invested a lot of time and effort into that work. So, I think it is a fixable problem, but we are definitely starting from, look, the field of Civic Tech reflects the larger imbalances and inequities in the rest of society. So, we have to consciously work hard to change that among ourselves too. Someone we spoke to about this question recommended if we were able to do a benchmark survey of founder diversity in Civic Tech, we could get funders to sign on to agree to improving it year over year once we have the numbers in the benchmark. And yeah, to the extent that we overlap with the tech industry where I think the numbers were like 3% of VC funding goes to women. I think that's a ridiculous place to start. And I know Cheryl Conte has talked about this. I'll find a link and put it in the chat. But I think, yeah, we're nowhere near balance. Back to you. You see your leg, Anna. What could civic technology of the type that we've been talking about here today, how can that make the steps easier for you that you were mentioning in terms of improving participation and engagement? For example, the way that we, before the way I described how we decide on which ideas are valid to make the process more transparent. And then again, the dilemma I spoke about was when we hit the phase where an idea that is elected and then it reaches opposition, then we need an extra tool to conclude in a matter, because we are in a hard place where half of the people want it and the other half doesn't. So we need, we could use a tool that could help us deliberate pros and cons and reach decisions that are transparent and understandable to people. Great. And when Curious Person has actually asked if Reykjavik has its own Fix My Street site, either like or based on my society's Fix My Street product? It is our own. It is developed within the city of Reykjavik and it is slightly different. And I'm not sure if the developers were aware of Fix My Street at the moment when they designed our platform. But in hindsight, they resemble each other and they have the same purpose for people just to log on and explain what's wrong and what they need done. So it's not kind of a democratic process. It's kind of a service tool more than a democracy tool. Cool. And maybe just time for one or two more questions if anyone wants to sneak them in there on Slido, but picking up on some of the questions, kind of rolling them into one maybe. How do you, and this is for all three of you, how can you maintain citizen engagement in a kind of longer term? Lots of civic tech is kind of tailored at greater participation, greater engagement, you know, reducing that distance between citizens and institutions over kind of a much longer period than a lot of kind of, you know, just novel one-off kind of interactions. Do any of you have kind of ideas on how you make that better using digital? Maybe the first thing that comes to my mind is instant gratification. You need to constantly inform, give feedback and take it and give it. So the processes are slow and we need to speed them up and I think that might engage people more to be willing to participate. So that's kind of a one way of looking at it. So what I would say is we should be careful what we wish for and I'm not sure that expecting people to be hyper-engaged is what our goal is. I do think we want responsive systems that reflect what people's needs are and we, I do think we're in a moment where because the decisions of governments now are directly affecting people in ways that often feel very diffuse, that the level of civic engagement is likely to skyrocket because people act when their lives are at stake, far more than when they see something as background noise. So I don't think that the problem of civic, of people, how do we get people to be more involved is the one that we're going to have for the next few years. It's going to be really how well can we listen and aggregate and help people reach consensus. In other words, tools that help improve our ability to listen to each other and not just allow individuals to express complaints may be the things we need most. Yeah. My thought is if we look at the digital tools that billions of people do use by all the tech companies, they're completely frictionless and fun to use and when you want to go to make civic and government things frictionless and fun to use, I think it gets political quickly. I think it becomes about power quickly. That's just my view but having spent an inordinate amount of time working to make it easier to register a vote in the United States and then realizing halfway through that voter registration itself was a voter suppression technology 100 years ago and now we're digitizing it and trying to make it smooth in an app, I think usage goes up remarkably when things are easy and quick and fun to use and there's often people, whether it's the status quo or direct opposition, there's often people ensuring that it doesn't become easy and fun digital. I'm on the political wing of the civic tech party. Great. Okay. Great answers to all. Thank you very much for all your questions as well. Like I say, the ones that we haven't had time to cover here, we will forward to all the speakers for them to get back hopefully sometime in the near future.