 Brett when you look back on the successful career that you've had to date and I know you still got a ways to go But if you look back so far, what's the biggest career growth driver to you? What do you say? Wow that had really had a big impact on the growth of my career I would say that the the biggest growth driver for me was when I made the decision Working at an architecture firm. I had been there for just over five years practicing architecture. You know only five years out of school The the decision I made to switch over to the technology side of the business As I look back to that it was obviously a big decision for me only five years out of school To make you know, what really was a career change at the time But it sent me down a path of so much more learning and opportunity and experience That I think it really set me up for you know The rest of my time with that firm and set me up to come to Delta at some point So that by far was was probably the biggest growth driver for me That's great. I the reason I really like that bread is because I think a lot of professionals today You know students they go to college they major in something You know, they become a certain get into a certain type of profession And you know, they can have a real rigid mindset on it like you know, I went to school for this I paid a lot of money. I got this degree and I kind of stick with this But you know, I think your proof that you know, it might take some courage You know being a little really may feel a little risky But you kind of make that move that can really change your career. Would you agree with that? absolutely, I mean, I think of you know, my my evolution or my path I went from architect to IT manager IT director to software product manager Yes, that's a that's a quite a departure from you know, going to school for architecture So I'm proud of that. I'm happy no regrets, but you're right it is representative of the fact that you know coming out of school school teaches you to You know bees perhaps in a specific area or specific career But it also prepares you for you know life in general and you know What path you choose does not necessarily have to be the path that was set up by that education and I think you know I think I'm a little bit of a representative of how that might be possible