 the hostess of the party, just her face drains when Ashley walks in because she's not wearing her dress, but wearing her backup dress that she had in case somebody wore the dress that she was wearing. Oh no. And she was then panicked because now if somebody was... Oh. It was... Right, there was no... Plan C had not been the way I thought of. Yeah. She liked, and they were both prepped and ready to go, and her backup was taken out, and so she was just... I don't want to say it ruined her night. I think she had 10% less of a good time. Just eyeballing the dress that came in the door. I feel like it's very rare, unless for some reason, I don't know, something weird happened, and I had to borrow a friend's dress and I wasn't comfortable. If I'm wearing a dress, I like it. So if you're wearing the same dress, then I like your style. I don't see why it's a bad thing. I don't see why it's embarrassing for people. You wouldn't want to lock horns with that other person's thing. Well, I would... No, I just, I don't know. I don't know why it mattered. We're not going to look the same. We're not twins. I would wonder if it's a self-esteem thing that somebody would look better. Maybe. That inherently invites judgment? Maybe, right, yeah. Or, yeah, somehow your individuality is called into question or something. Yeah, nothing can be done to fix this. My individuality has been besmirched. I'm like, hey, man, I'm shopping at the mall. It's going to happen. What are you going to do? They made more than one of these. Or a live version of who wore it better, right? Yeah, I guess so. A boring version of that. Oh, I see you worked out, so you're more defined there for you. The cloths. Oh, you look nice, but wow, if you worked out like that guy. All right, you guys about ready? Yes. Yeah. I'm going to start recording. Sarah, could you do the line three read? Actually. I absolutely can. So, Justin's also going to record. So, Sarah, if you could just give a short countdown. So, Tom and Justin. Tom, can you talk again? Yeah, I can talk all the time. Okay. Is your video went too crap for me again just now, like just in the last couple seconds? That's what I love to hear. Yes, I'm saying something. Hello. Your audience sounds fine. Your audience is fine. The video is just a little choppy, but the audio sounds good. Let's just get the show in the road then. Let's do it. All right. I'll count myself in from five, four, three, two. Thanks to everyone who supports Daily Tech News Show directly. To find out more head to dailytechnewshow.com slash supports. This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, September 6th, 2018 in Chesterfield, Missouri. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Feline, I'm Sarah Lane. From Oakland, California, I'm Justin Robert Young. And Roger. And I'm sorry. I'm so... It's new. It's new. I'm the producer, Roger Chang. Thank you. I think that's John Merritt of Katie Computer Systems in Chesterfield who's letting me set up here in his office and do the show today. It's very kind of him. He's got a wedding going on this weekend that he's got to get to, but he was nice enough to let me be here and use the studio so I could be on the show today. Great things to talk about. So let's start with a few tech things you should know. Dell's second quarter earnings reported revenue up 18% to $22.9 billion and adjusted earnings up 13% to $2.46 billion. For fiscal 2019, Dell's looking ahead says it looks pretty good, expects adjusted revenue of as much as $92 billion and adjusted net income of as much as $5.3 billion. You might recall that Dell is looking to return to the public market five years after the company took itself private. Microsoft announced a new Xbox Skill for Cortana and Amazon Alexa, letting users that have either Cortana or Alexa-enabled device control their Xbox One with their voice. Skills will include turning off the console or on, I guess, with their voice, launching games, apps and controlling media playback. Microsoft is also partnering with Amazon to integrate Alexa into Cortana and vice versa. Apple's got an event coming up September 12th. You may not have realized that if you don't read the internet. It's only one week away. Sources telling nine to five Mac, hey, you know how everybody's been saying that it's gonna be called the iPhone XS? Well, the 6.5 inch version that is rumored to be coming out is gonna be called the iPhone XS Max. Great thing about these kinds of rumors is we can plan all of our funny puns ahead of time. Apple also removed to unveil not only the iPhone XS and XS Max, but smaller mid-sized LCD version that'll cost less and an Apple Watch Series 4. All right, let's talk a little bit more about the idea of cryptocurrency as a government currency. Yeah, the Reserve Bank of India has formed an interdepartmental group to study the idea of introducing a form of flat digital currency as a replacement for paper notes. Last year, Dubai introduced a state-backed cryptocurrency called MCash. Russia, Iran, Venezuela and Israel have also experimented with state-backed crypto. This is one of the most interesting things to me because countries are both afraid and tentatively wanting to embrace cryptocurrency that there's a lot of the same countries developing cryptocurrency that are also shutting it down. For instance, India, where they have forbid financial institutions from trading in cryptocurrency, but they're also thinking, well, maybe that would be a good thing for us to do. Well, there are two elements to it. Number one, the coolest thing about cryptocurrency, in my opinion, is the concept of money without state-backing. And yet, cryptocurrency is so easy to do relative to starting your own state-backed currency that why not? Why not try? And if you are a nation, then, and we are still in a infancy for this world, I think the idea of getting over-leveraged in a cryptocurrency and then having it be worthless is a much bigger fear than creating something that at least you'll know as long as you're backing it, it will be there. You know, some of the details of this, obviously, will come out as it moves forward, but India in particular, at least in my travels there, is a real cash-centric country. And that's changing every day, of course, but this would seem like there are certain countries where you go like, yeah, okay, Norway, sure, that Sweden got it. India, hmm, okay, if you're truly replacing paper notes for the entire country, you know, billions of people, that's a pretty tall order. Yeah, and it's funny, you should say replace paper notes because remember, India did that where they replaced their paper notes and basically said the old paper notes are no longer good after this day. They kind of surprised everyone with this as an effort to combat fraud and stop people who were laundering money or engaging in criminal activity from being able to use the money that they had stored away. So I get where India's head's going, which is like, well, that was really hard to do. What if we did it with digital though? And I guess reason they're exploring it is they have to take into account what you're saying, Sarah, and figure out how does this hit the smaller areas, the rural areas. They are, smartphones are penetrating India at a faster rate than ever before, but still not everybody's connected. So, you know, what would be the timeline? How would they roll it out? Would they actually replace paper notes or would they just make them a substitute? The FIDO Alliance has launched a certification program for biometric systems. The goal is to integrate certified systems into FIDO, sorry, certified systems into FIDO certified authenticators. FIDO will work with accredited independent labs to test systems for performance and presentation attack detection and certify ones deemed fit for commercial use. The lab, iBeta in the US has been accredited for testing and more labs worldwide are expected to be added soon. Now, I remember FIDO Alliance often is associated with Google because Google is a founding member of it, but it is a nonprofit organization and it's many companies involved in it. And its goal is to get rid of passwords to have a secure replacement for passwords. I love this idea of pushing for a standard in a way that not only says we want a reliable, secure as possible biometric system, but we're gonna push the companies like Samsung. Remember Samsung's iris detection was fooled by a contact lens over a picture. Now granted, it's probably not as bad of a situation as it sounds like, but it's certainly not something that a government agency or maybe a large enterprise is gonna be comfortable with. This kind of standard can push them to say, you have to do better than that if you want to be accepted into this standard, which is becoming more and more attractive to companies, especially enterprises who right now have to certify all this stuff themselves if they could rely on a standard from FIDO, it would make it easier for them to shop for devices as well. Look, there is no doubt that these are very, very worthwhile goals to make things more secure. And I think we have moved in that direction on a lot of the commercial devices. The question is going to be exactly where they want to draw the line of this is certification and how easy it is for manufacturers to do it. Because I think we're at that tipping point. We're at the point where, no, no, no, we, I would love a device where I could just be able to totally forget about passwords in a way that I think a lot of people largely have with these newer generation smartphones. Yeah, and we're not there. I don't think FIDO thinks we're there, but that's the goal. And this is another of the steps along the way. AMD's rolling out its latest processors based on the Zen architecture, including a good old-fashioned Athlon branded chip, which is an accelerated processing unit that combines graphics and processing on the one chip. The AMD Athlon 200GE with the Radeon Vega 3 graphics has two CPU cores and will sell for a 55 bucks. Yes, you heard me right. Woo! The AMD Athlon Pro 200GE chip with two CPU cores and three graphics computer units is targeted at the commercial market and AMD announced two new Ryzen chips as well, a six-core Ryzen 5 Pro 2600, two chips and eight cores, and the Ryzen 7 Pro 2700. Oh, I said two, there are three. Also the Ryzen Pro 2700X. AMD, man, at a time where I think a lot of people are thinking that these kinds of processors are becoming a mature market and maybe only one company can dominate, they are giving Intel a run for their money. Well, and I know that the 200GE, which is the Athlon chip that you mentioned first, Tom, I mean, that's a very attractive price, 55 bucks. Now, of course, that's definitely consumer market, the rest of them are much more commercial, but yeah, I mean, with prices like that, how can you say no? You know, I mean, what's interesting, there was a recent report I was reading, I think it was either PC Magazine net. So the Ryzen, the higher end chips have been doing pretty well, but AMD is still not making gains in the lower end market, which is the commoditized notebooks that you buy for a student or people who just need to get on the internet, and they wanna take some of that market away from Intel. So they need to refresh the offerings at that level, and this is what they're doing. And if they can make the value proposition of, it doesn't need to be the best 14 or 15 inch notebook, it just needs to be better than what's currently available from Intel at a price point where people say, hey, you know what, dollar for dollar, I get the same performance out of this AMD notebook that I would add out of this Intel, I'll save myself 80 bucks by the AMD. And Microsoft likes that too, right? Because they can throw Windows S on there and have a cheap laptop to compete with Chromebooks, which is becoming a competitive space as well. And competition is good, and I expect to see more features and ideally a better slate of nice products at that price point instead of having like, well, this is all the bin ships that we have that didn't really make a cut, so here you go. Just in time for back to school. Nielsen has acquired Superdata Research, which creates data estimizations for digital games, like how many people bought a game and how many people are using this game and for how many hours a day type stuff by looking at the behavior of 160 million folks. Nielsen now joined the tracking firm, the NPD Group, which also tracks video games, has been doing it for a long time, since the 90s actually in 2016. NPD started including digital sales in its monthly reports, but here's the difference. NPD gets its data directly from video game publishers. Nielsen says it's going to use Superdata to provide its clients with different information about the digital side of games by analyzing consumer behavior instead. How very Nielsen of them. Right, Nielsen is in such a fascinating place in a world where everything is verifiable because their brand is effectively, we will give you the best guess we have on an unverifiable audience. And now on the internet, where everything's got a counter on some level, either when you buy it or when you use it, and we're only seeing more and more places where people are opting into tracking literally everything they do, the question is what, you know, with or Nielsen and how they evolved to this marketplace? I want to fight back a little bit on the perception around Nielsen though. And granted, I have led the charge of complaining about how the 5,000 group has its flaws and Tech TV had to fight for a decent rating because we had a small audience, et cetera. But Nielsen's pretty good at what they do in general. And it's a fairly accurate sample size even though it's just that. And but one more thing, the one thing I learned really quickly at TechTV.com was verifiable stats need interpretation still. And that's what Nielsen is selling is we're good at telling you what the data means. So we're going to collect all this data and we're going to tell you what soda do these folks like to drink? Where do they pause and watch a cut scene? If you have product placement in a video, what are they looking at, stuff like that? And that's something I think they might be pretty good at. That is true. A, you're right that the data needs to be correlated and you are right that they have been good at what they've done. The problem is that what they have done is an ancient art that I don't know how long that will need to be practiced. And what they are good at, a lot of people are good at and people are getting better at every day because that is the basis of all advertising, not some advertising, not targeted advertising, all advertising now. And when all the top companies on the internet are also advertising sellers, then that means that a lot of people are focusing on exactly that. If Nielsen's smart and it kind of looks like they are, they're going to be positioning themselves and are positioning themselves as we were doing big data before there was big data. And we are the people who can tell you what it means. Mm, I'm scared. Well, I hope they can help podcast producers find out what their numbers are like because that's a whole other market that it would be great if Nielsen could tap into. Too small. Starting mid-September, Tencent will enable a new age verification system linked to China's national public security database for its Honor of Kings series of video games. The company previously vowed to limit the game to one hour a day for children 12 and under and two hours a day for those between 13 and 18. Honor of Kings is a popular multiplayer RPG based on historic Chinese figures but has been criticized by the government for being too addictive to children. Yeah, I mean, this goes in line with a lot of other of the stories we're seeing out of China where they're trying to cut down on obsessive behaviors, trying to limit access, overdoing it on social networks and making people register with real names so that they are more responsible with what they post on social networks. So this one doesn't really surprise me. I don't wanna get all a snare drum and fife about this, but it is very scary to me that you are using a state-run database for stuff like this to control this kind of behavior. And I know that this is just an element of Chinese culture. This is an element of what the Chinese government does, but man, does it make me very uneasy. And that's the only thing I can think of when I read something like this. Well, and just, you know, harking back to my days as a gamer, you know, when I was 11 years old and play a lot of Super Mario Brothers, it's like one hour a day, not enough. Two hours a day, not enough. You know, you're hanging out after school for a few hours, you know, playing with your friends. So I wonder how these times, these time limits have been arrived at and why. Yeah, FOPAA says, how will they get good enough to compete in eSports? They can only play two hours. They'll have to get good at several games. You can play two hours of Honor of Kings and then you go on to Warcraft. Well, yeah, well, no. And then the best eSports athletes will be bred amongst each other and kept in specific abilities. Hey, folks, if you want to get all tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to dailytechheadlines.com. All right, let's talk about humanity. And by humanity, I mean a startup called Hugh-Manatee, not all of us people. Humanity launched an app for Android and iOS called hashtag My31. It's a little bit of a activist name. They're saying there are 30 human rights recognized by the United Nations and they think your right to own the data about you on the internet should be the 31st human right. So hence the name My31. My31, the app lets people control their medical data and share it with contractual enforcement handled by IBM's Hyperledger Fabric Blockchain. So in other words, while HIPAA protects your data from being shared without your knowledge, it doesn't have all the protections you have if you have total legal control. The app here will let users set the terms for data. For instance, in the US, medical data can be sold if it's anonymized. My31 could let you have more control over that and say approve your data to be used in anonymous fashion by one company, but not by another or maybe just for one or two trials, but not forever without you getting further approval. Company is gonna use rewards like frameable titles to your data to encourage people to sign up Kickstarter-ish kind of rewards. And if it gets to a million users, it believes it can negotiate deals with data brokers and pharmaceutical companies. They say that the companies are already interested because they will be able to provide higher quality data. If you're saying, yes, you can give this data, then it's verifiable, it's updatable, and potentially it's a higher quality of data because people are opting in to giving it. And you as a consumer get to decide how your medical data is used. And of course, humanity would like to do this for other kinds of data down the road. They're starting with medical data to begin with because they think that's something everybody can understand wanting to have control over. I think this is a great idea. The battle for our data and the digital trail that we leave only becomes more valuable. And the question is how much of that trail we really own specifically as we carve further and further into our own lives with biometric tracking as, you know, I think from even the earliest days of this show and its previous incarnations as fitness trackers became important. The question was never is this good data? The question was always, what does it do well for me? This is another thing that Nielsen should get into, Tom. But what does data means? If we start there and then we continue to go forward exponentially as all these devices become cleared by the FDA, we are able to tell more and more and get answers faster and faster to our health woes, then yes, 150% absolutely and we need to rethink what it means to have this data protected not only by HIPAA laws, but I also think with this, you know, that we need to fight for this protection because otherwise it will just go out into the ether. I don't know a lot about humanity, the company. I actually don't know that much about humanity the species either, but I don't know a lot about this startup. It is on the one hand concerning to me to have a private company, a profit motivated company pushing this because well, how are they gonna, you know, yes, they can make their money off of selling you control, but there's always gonna be a temptation to make that control a little less strict because it can make them more money. Open source projects like MIT's Solid, which has Tim Berners-Lee on board are more appealing to me because they're independent. They're like the Fido Alliance where they are trying to be an open standard. But I hesitate to criticize this because I like the ideas behind it and the more of these kinds of efforts that get underway, the better because it's only by having several of them try that we're gonna have some of them catch and start working and we really need this. We need a new system that lets us control our data. Yeah, as somebody who's had a variety of medical issues as have we all over the years and spent countless hours trying to figure out things of insurance companies and yeah, who knows what and what doctor can talk to this doctor and specialist. And, you know, it's a mess to the point that I have never felt like I was in control of my own data. That was something that I just sort of had to ask other people to hopefully do. And, you know, let's see how far we can go, right? Before somebody says no, where I get denied for coverage. So I love the idea of this, but yes, Tom, you're right. It's a private company. And if I have the option to say this company, no, but this company, yes, I actually want my medical records. Okay, well, then is that company going to be, even if I feel comfortable at that moment, is that going to be, you know, the right situation for me as somebody who doesn't really understand the nuances of a lot of healthcare stuff that goes on behind the scenes? It's complicated. Yeah, it's a lot like choosing a VPN to me, which is, you know, I want to choose a VPN to protect my data from being seen by others on the network. But I have to trust the VPN company because they're going to see all my data on the network. You know, obviously you can encrypt it. Let me also take another two steps forward. The more we own our health data, the more we can monetize our own health data. Oh, there's a whole thing about DNA and personal DNA there, absolutely. So now, if we are looking at companies for which we sign over our rights for a million and a half different reasons, we share it with servers that, you know, provide devices and services and stuff like that, that they can then anonymize and sell out. What's to say that we can't use our own if through a database, we can register ourselves with a database and say with a tap of a button, I can provide from my house to with no visit to a doctor data that could advance a trial further than it would have and at any other time because I own it and I have it available to me. That's a huge thing. And- But then who's facilitating you sharing that data? Probably companies like Humanity. Well, I mean, that's one option, sure. Yeah. And that's the question that Sarah and I are asking is like, okay, maybe humanity, I trust. Maybe, you know, they're a trustworthy VPN type provider. We're gonna need more of these before we can really vet that and there will be ways to vet that and that's great. But I like where you're going with that, Justin, which is, you know, it becomes, it levels the playing field quite a bit and just your personal information becomes a monetization point for every single individual. I've heard a lot of people talking about DNA in that vein. I hadn't even thought about it as just, you know, general health data records. Before we move off of this, I wanna ask, what do you guys think of the idea, the sort of higher level idea that owning your data should be considered a human right? I think that is correct. Yeah. I can't imagine a world where I'd say, no, it's not my right to own my own data, especially if it's medical data. I mean, if anybody, one person should have that information, it should be me. Yeah. Look, I think that it is, it's important that we recognize the people that put together the services and devices that allow us to track this, but that being said, we should, you know, now that we are more sophisticated on these grounds, we need, I am for drawing a more conservative line and encouraging behavior that puts my data in my hands more and more, both with health and literally everything else. Like, I think we are getting to a point now where culture has shifted enough that that is, to me, the obvious trend line as we go forward. Yeah. To me, it's a tough one. Too many human rights and you have a problem, right? Generally, that's never been a problem in the history of humanity, but I can conceive of a way that it could be. I sort of have the gut feeling that Sarah has, which is like, yeah, it's my data. I should have a right to it. But the difference between a human right and a law is every single culture and nation on earth must respect this versus, well, some cultures may not value personal data as much as others. And I'll be honest, I don't know where I come down on that. My guts comes down where Sarah does, but I don't know if maybe there is an exception out there. I will quickly add to, for my sake, it depends on the context. If you have some sort of virulent disease that could, that is highly contagious and possibly a high risk to the greater community. I mean, for example, does owning your data mean no one else gets it without your express permission? Or are there avenues where health officials can say, hey, you know what, you have so-and-so, we're gonna just notify people around you that you have that and they shouldn't be within five years. I haven't really thought about that. There are exceptions, yeah, absolutely. And those exceptions should, and those are exceptions that are already in place with things like HIPAA, where you may not release the name of the person, but you quarantine them and everything. I don't think that's so hard to solve. It's a great point. We have our ways of getting around stuff like that. And if there is national or local databases for which would benefit from it knowing whether or not you are in a situation that could endanger others, then you can tie it to your ability to get a driver's license or other state or local things. Like, you know, there's ways that we have a tendency to kind of force people into those boxes. Healthcare. The topic continues. It's all bit solved. It's all bit solved. If any topic never ends, it's healthcare. Hey, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. Sometimes there's healthcare topics there. Tech topics for sure, you guys are the fast. Guys and gals submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. We're also on Facebook. Hang out with us there, Facebook.com slash groups slash Daily Tech News Show. And all your feedback goes into the mail bag and then we pull some out and read it. True story, Tom. Larry, AKA the geeky trucker writes, just my opinion, thinking about the Apple invitation obsession over that circle. What Larry is referring to is, is now I can't remember it because... The media invite that Apple sent out had a circle on it. Yeah. But, and the tagline was... See around? I can't remember. I'm sorry. Yeah, there've been so many. You know, you never know with Apple. And that's the whole thing is about the circle. I'll find out. Yeah. Larry says, I think they're going to have a round watch. Haven't heard anything in the rumors. Just... Gather. Gather around, gather around. Yes, that's right. I should have wrote that in my notes. I kind of assumed that too, Larry. I think you're on the right track. I don't have any inside information either. But that's... I assumed the roundness was not going to be a round phone, although I made a joke about that one. Apple first made their announcement. But a round watch, that would... I would wear a round watch more than a square watch. It's just sort of a watch I would prefer to wear. And then, Enth Mike, in the slack, pointed out the following. Yesterday's episode was number 3361, which is the 1,222nd episode of the DTNS era. The Buzz Out Loud era was 1,228 episodes. The DTNS era will reach that point next Thursday, which means that as of next Friday's episode, the DTNS era will be the longest of the three eras of Tom Does Tech News podcasting. Yes! So, TNT was in there, right? Yeah, TNT ran for less time to Buzz Out Loud, though, so... I see. Okay, all right. Well, how about that? We've won. With me on it, I should say. Tom, you've outdone yourself. Finally. I've outed it, hopefully, last time. Let's just stop here. We've got a good thing. We've arrived. Thanks to Justin and Robert Young for helping us arrive every Thursday, sometimes Monday, sometimes other days. Justin, what's been going on since we talked to you last? Oh, you know, it's been a pretty wild week in the world of politics, which why, if you listened to me previously when I told you to get on this free political newsletter, then, you know, you were very happy. If you didn't, well, boy, if you found yourself frowning this week, that's why. Congratulations, you played yourself. 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What else do we have on the old title realm there? Roger's busy publishing the show today. All right, let me look at all showbots. OK. Oh, the humanity. Oh, very Nielsen. iPhone XS Max price. Well, we didn't really talk about price. That's funny, though. Yeah, I wish we would have said that. I don't know. I mean, if that's really what it's called, I have thoughts. It can't be, right? Like, I would be surprised. If it was Max, XS Max? Yeah. Why? Why? XS, I guess I can understand, because it fits into nomenclature's previous. iPhone X, yeah. iPhone X. And they'll call it XS, not XS. Max, though. Such a supermarket, not these like, I, you know. It's like, I've been waiting a long time for the iPad to be called Max. Oh, Roger, do you want me to stop this recording? Yes, please. And the file that I recorded of the show is still uploading into Dropbox. I'll let you know when it's done. And it's Pesta? No, not Pesta. No, it's DTS 2018 0906.Wave. Got it. I'll wait till it's up. Thanks, Justin. All right. It is up. And it should be 369.4 megabytes. Am I throwing that right into Slack, right? Sure. Let's like, take it. I don't know, we'll find out. I still want to do, I still have my goal of doing an Elvis-themed tech support service. Do we have any other names? Let me. iPhone XS. As of right now, OTHE Humanity. Or in Humanity, we trust. How very Nielsen. Sitcom. Nielsen Gamers. OTHE Humanity. Is it too soon? From what? The Hindenburg. Since it didn't happen in my lifetime, I would say no. It's not too soon. Of course it'd be very generous. I made a joke about FDR that got a grown at DragonCon. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody had mentioned podcast being the fire, being like the fireside chats. That was my favorite part of the fireside chats, was when FDR stopped and plugged a foam mattress. And that got a laugh, not leaving well enough alone. I then tagged on use promo code wheels. Got a grown. And I guess I found out still too soon. Can't joke about it. You're a Navy man. Holy up. Yeah, because I don't know. For some reason, I'm like, oh, the humanity. It's like, well, but. Well, you want to know why, though? Here's why I think it's fine. There is a inflatable slide that is always by where you buy Christmas trees in Emery Hall, is the crashing Hindenburg. Oh, that's awful. So there's an inflatable slide. No, it's four kids. They will bring their kids to slide down the Hindenburg. Ironic. This isn't. Yeah. Maybe it was a burning man thing that they decided to repurpose into kids entertainment. But I think, oh, the humanity is fine. All right. That's what we'll go with, Roger. You're muted, Roger, in case you didn't realize. Oh, the mute. Sarah went in. Oh, the mute manity. Yeah, Sarah froze up. I don't know what happened there. Oh, but she looks very genial. Yes, she does. It is a great freeze frame. Freeze frame. I don't hear. Ah, we're old people. Oh, I think she might be coming back. Making references to things long since. Jay Giles' band. Jay Giles' band, 45. I purchased about 60 miles east of here. I only bought LPs. I never bought LPs. I bought the little ones. I used to buy 45s all the time. Oh, thanks. Got hairs. I will not be in Springfield, nor does Mr. Burns live there, Strike It Rich. But that said, I appreciate the expectation. I don't know the lady. Come on. But you got the wave? 360, 360, 360, 7709 kb. Well, that's a lot of kb. I have 369.4 megabytes. But as long as you have the whole show there, that's really all the matters. Yes, I listened to the... Cool. Oh, wait, can I open this up in an audition? People are having fun with Hindenburg conspiracy theories in the chat room that I won't repeat. They're pretty hilarious. Ah, conspiracies. The burning point of helium, hydrogen. Can you go from there? Well, you know, that was the other thing. It's like, was it really the hydrogen or was that just an accessory to the culprit of the... Not dope, but the... Whatever they soak the fabric in in order to make it taut. So, what's the over-under? I don't know how you do an over-under on Max, but what do you... I kind of want to put some money on Max. I think it's possible. On how many, Max? No, the name. On Apple using the name Max in one of the products. Oh, okay. Well, that would be a prop of yes, no. Right. Considering the rumors, it would probably be the favorite. I don't know. That'd be a good Mitsula favorite on what to do it, but it'd probably be like a plus 150 or something like that. Okay, all right. Play 150 to win 100. Can you use a steak bet with a prop? And yeah, no. So a steak bet, so yeah. Any kind of proposition is, will this happen yes or no? Yeah. And I get a bigger steak than you do. If we were to use those odds, right? Hi. Sorry about that. Yeah, that's all right. We pick all the humanity. Crazy. Okay. Did you... I'm sorry to interrupt if we were talking about something very important. No, we weren't. The woman who played Marianne on Gilligan's Island? Yeah, absolutely. She didn't know, but she... Don't be so eager. She has a GoFundMe that a friend of mine sent to me. I don't know why. I'm like, I've never even watched Gilligan's Island and so on. I know, I just haven't. I've never seen the show. Don't ever. But she, yes. But she has a GoFundMe that's apparently about raising money for medical fees, but it's to pay off the IRS. I'm going to say, I'll put it in slack. It's just, it's strange. As I was restarting just now, I'm like, what is happening here? I don't know. Marianne, I wish you the best, but I've never seen the show. So I don't even know if you're a good actress. Oh, Jesus. Oh, man. That's a bird. I don't. I've never seen the show. Fine. It is... I'm not saying you're not. I'm just saying I don't know if you're good or not. Yeah. When did I don't know, I mean, I'm really secretly accusing you of something like that. That definitely has happened. Because I think the issue is the order of operations there. I was unfamiliar with your career, so I don't know if you're a good actress, but rest in peace. If you... She's not dead. She is alive. She's raising money to pay the tax man for some reason. Oh, never mind. Oh, I thought she was dead. Yeah, whatever. She's not dead. No, she just needs $110,000. But at that level... It's just I don't know about the rest of you, but I get sucked into GoFundMe's for animals all the time. Oh, God, man. I've given people that I barely know... People I have never met and will never met. I gave their dog $100 for his broken leg type thing. And I feel good about that. But there are a lot of fundraisers. And I'm sure they're all in the best interests of everybody. And I hope everyone reaches their goal. I just thought you'd all like to know what Marianne is up to. Marianne. Well, maybe she... Wasn't there a rich guy? Who was the rich guy? Thurston Howell, the third wife. There was no Panky Panky on that island. Was Thurston... Is that the actor's name or the character's name? OK, OK. This is fascinating that you don't know Gilligan's Island. I don't. It's like if I told someone about Three's Company, and everyone was like, what are you talking about? Yeah, I know Three's... Like I've seen every episode of Three's Company. But like Justin, do you know Three's Company? I will say I probably saw more Gilligan's Island than I did Three's Company. But only I don't know if I ever sat through an entire episode of Gilligan's Island. Like I think that I just one of those syndication shows that was just on TV back in an era before you could just do whatever you wanted. And literally, you were beholden to whatever was on the television. Yeah, I mean, for me, it's... I'm sure as a kid I would have liked it. I'm aware that most kids are like, really, you've never seen Gilligan's Island? I'm like, I know the premise. They're on an island or a... But no, I've never seen the show because it was a primetime show and I was too young or I wasn't alive or I don't even know when that show was on originally. But all of those kind of throwback, classic rock shows. That's all stuff that I watched when I was being babysat after school before my mom picked me up. So it's between 1.30 p.m. and 5.00 p.m. Like whatever's on, I'm watching it. So be witched, G.I. Joe. I love Lucy. I love Lucy, exactly. You wrapped in G.I. Joe with primetime, that wasn't it? No, this is after school reruns. Did you watch Flipper? No, I've never seen Flipper. But I've seen a lot of I Love Lucy and that's gotta be the oldest one of them all. I was mentioning to a friend, we were talking about this this morning, I was like, you know, I didn't like Hogan's Heroes. I just did not like that show. And he was like, what? I mean, how old are you? And I'm like, no, I wasn't watching Hogan's Heroes when it was originally running. I'm talking about after school, like you're sitting on the floor and your babysitter's house will watch, but they give you. There's He-Man and G.I. Joe, but there's also One Day at a Time and Hogan's Heroes. I would say Hogan's Heroes was never on there. Flipper was on a lot because it was a South Florida base show and I think it just, we didn't have Flipper much ourselves, yeah. Well, we're gonna reminisce about a few more to these TV shows on the audio stream. So if you're listening, stick around. If you're a video folk, start talking to your friends about your favorite TV shows and we'll talk to you next time. Right.