 One way to sense this is through, you could say, vibration or yeah, I think that's probably the best way to describe it quantum mechanically. So like the vibration of two entities or humans, let's say, in conversation with each other and I'm just going to blow this up out of proportion just to make it a point to make it easy to understand. But where one human let's say is more meditative and has a deeper sense of peace and equanimity and happiness, joy. And then the other human has a straws high levels of stress and high levels of agitation and high levels of anxiety, and maybe even depression. And this one typically thinks that they're a victim of the universe. And this one typically thinks that they're the creator of their reality. So then, then the way, yeah the way that these two interface you could say vibrationally is that the creator the more meditative the ease full one. You could say if you want to follow some of the Eastern as well tradition that the chakras or the energy centers inside of the body are less blocked. And so in the tourists, right, of the flow of energy in the body in the central nervous system up the actual spinal channel and out the top of the head that that is less blocked, but in the one that has greater dis ease those the channel and the energy are more blocked. And so the words that come out of the mouth of the one that is more blocked are typically the words. So you can sense it bodily based on vibration but you can also sense it in the words that they speak, right the logos these words are very telling of like the state of the frequency or the vibration that the entity is at so, for example for them, they might speak in ways that are trying to extract something to make them feel good to make them feel worthy or get some validation or something like that. They want to get peace from outside of themselves. And then just to briefly contrast the one that's more meditative is typically speaking or using words in ways that are trying to serve life. So it's not a place to be your place from a place that's already whole or already fulfilled. And so you can tell by the way people speak vibrationally you could say quantum mechanically. So as the, the knower, the observer, perhaps, I don't know what the right term is but the one who is more at peace with themselves acting like an energy sink. Yeah, drawing out of the negative energy of the of the of the observed. It's interesting to me from a physical perspective because I stumbled on to this whole homology between a black hole in itself so this Beckenstein back in the mid 70s have discovered he was trying to determine the total energy of a black hole. And contrary contrary to what he had expected that it was going to be related to the volume of the black hole it was actually related to the surface area. So I started and because of the similarities between a black hole in the cell in context of gravity. I always forget this term something. So basically the the there's a horizon element in the black hole and I am of the opinion that the cell does the same thing in its ideal state it's information, it's being is on the surface. And that if you're in a negative if you're that observed person person who is in kind of a negative state of consciousness that the the information is is hidden, but that you can extract it right through the way the way that you described something like that. Yeah. And as, as you were referencing earlier, it's important where if the one that has the energy blockages is interfacing with the one that's more free and does not have the energy blockages. So what's happening is that the one that is more free is typically reflecting something to the one that is more blocked so the one that is more blocked is typically asking the one that's more free for this reflection. So the one that's more free provides some sort of reflection that then for the one that's more blocked they'll like go through an internal process of, of going to wherever that block is energetically and liberating themselves from that block. So say that I'm speaking in a way that's manipulative because I'm trying to get people to see me for myself image and to think that I'm really cool. So then what usually the one that will reflect will do it will reflect something to the one that's trying to get validation by through self image, and it'll get them to recognize that pattern of behavior. And then simply by seeing that pattern of behavior that they were expressing, they can then free themselves of that pattern of behavior, and just feel automatically whole or more free, rather than needing to extract validation or trying to get people to see their self image to feel whole. So it's simple things like that with like reflecting behavioral patterns, or another one so in it just briefly also it's because the work has to be done by the entity themselves. The work is never done outside of the entity the work is always chosen by the entity themselves to go into the space where they don't want to go. There's no shadow unconscious subconscious etc. And by going into those regions. That's exactly where the transformation happens the caterpillar becomes the butterfly. If you will the metamorphosis happens transmutation transformation alchemy all those good things happen simply by turning to the areas inside of oneself where we don't want to go. And that if we just go that then we can actually feel free and freer in our expression, and actually more in service to life, and less trying to get something out of it. Yeah, actually even considered in that, you know lateralization left right brain. When you and I look into one of the one another's eyes there is not you eliminate that left right dichotomy right. So, you know, in the capacity to do that in an authentic way may not be you know like a switch, but I think it has something to do with that authenticity of that into relationship. That is my sense. Oh cool. But what you just described, I mean, is this all coming from Eastern vendetta, the dantic theory or, or belief, where is this just your own way of understanding the interrelationship of the two, the two, you know, parties involved. What was it coming from what you just expressed to me. I would say mostly through direct experience and then the just the distillation of what is most cutting edge about that possible. So, yeah just the synthesis of all of the peak of scientific literature as well as spiritual literature as well as direct experience with this process. We have an organization called the no limit society. We're basically training free agents for the ignition of global awakening. And so in this process we have hundreds of people coming from around the world that are interested in how to sort of empty themselves of their own self interest and their own self image, and how to go in shadow and subconscious and whatnot, and be more like empty vessels for the life waking up to itself, and how to like architect out these nations around the planet that are decentralized that have the basic needs be met that swim in abundance, energetic abundance, awake abundance. I mentioned to you earlier this Shambhala. And so you could say it's, it's both like a Buddhist and Vikings at the same time right so you have like the Elon Musk entrepreneurial excitement creation but at the same time you have the Buddhist realized awakened ones. And so, it's a, it's like the simultaneity of that. So yeah mostly through direct experience and also through through my team here through the different scientific and spiritual literature and distilling that and just parsing for signal above everything like just parsing for truth for signal above everything else because there's just so much to try and swim through and like and learn. But if you find what's most salient most relevant. Needles in the haystack if you will, an accumulation of thousands of needles in a lifetime swimming across different haystacks. Oh my gosh those needles just compound on each other, and then we can describe the physics of metaphysical phenomena. So like, in this case these two entities, one feeling more free one feeling more blocked, we can actually express at a scientific at a physical level, what's happening metaphysically, and it's, it's so so interesting. Yeah.