 I love it so much 12 year NBA vet three time all defensive currently now on your Philadelphia 76ers joined by the incomparable Pat Beverly we lie what yeah we're live for good you're good you're good okay my question is simple right off the top I know you've played with both these guys different areas different times which one do you have more dirt on like if you had to ruin one of their careers who would it be first off I want to say you guys have a have a great great show to start you guys provide a lot of a lot of intel that people don't really appreciate and I do appreciate it because I do I'm I am locked in and I and I appreciate the words y'all use and how y'all were play and the topics y'all have so I want to give y'all some love start you know before we start thanks Pat before he kills y'all with that being said kill him right right so I'm not you're right so with that being said it's funny that you know because y'all also funny to me too because it's like you know I can come on y'all show and I can get y'all whatever type of range y'all go get from the show they go by or y'all have viral clips but I'm pretty sure no one even shams is even subscribed to my podcast so I don't think I believe you I believe you I don't believe everyone at that table or shams you know what too much yeah it's funny it's funny but until I'm on your show and trying to show you love so I just want to make sure channel here today are you tuning in every week no but he know he know I'm a fan of the show we don't discuss we don't discuss the show before he know that and it's free you know you in order I know you guys might be ignorant don't know how to follow pot yeah that is true I can walk you through a tutorial if I need that I need that after this okay look and it's free too it's right on YouTube you can press subscribe that's it okay all right did you talk to him how what kind of teammates pat but now I'm getting a vibe oh pat that was the best teammate listen I get well he he first came to the rock as he was a young boy but he's always was tough as shit no bullshit a lot of guys talk he backs it up Pat Pat's been my man ever since we were teammates in Houston and everything he says he means he's not fazed by anything and so when you see there's some guys nowadays they're barking they're looking they're looking for they're looking for clicks you know you're done not pat bad pat bad is about it man my brother battle there's a new sheriff in town pv hey look so look so I'm gonna tell y'all the story behind that since you want to get on some gossip and shit so like I got uh I'm trying to I'm trying to beat Jeremy Lynn shout out to Jayland I'm trying to beat James Lynn for a star spot remember he just come off Lynn Sanity the odds are against me once again right so I go to Chandler I Chandler hey man it's Chandler I guess Chandler dad was a chef so we make wordplay on that like yeah it's a new sheriff in town you know I had to take that out the shout out to big Parsons too that's my big guy oh that's too good Pat listen let's talk about something serious here that you're sixers they're off to an 8-1 start you guys haven't lost since opening day what's been the single reason in your opinion for your guy's success early on I think uh instantly like knowing your role and y'all played on teams with me y'all know me I'm the guy in the locker window go go get the roles established quick like now my boy that ain't you you don't do that you don't you don't work like how I reach the road you don't work how Joel work like you know you got to provide something else you know it's it's a dinner table but in order for the food to be good you got to have nice chairs you got to have nice civilware you just can't be the turkey and the chicken you got to be the fork you might have to be a spoon you might have to be a plate so we got our roles picked down real well and we take them very seriously and it makes the game that much easier well said and with that being said you are plus 58 coming off the bench which is the best in the NBA so shout out to you obviously it's my first time ever coming off the bench in my in my 11 year career I think people can get about that I don't be the ton of people out for starting jobs people that ain't playing basketball no more so I appreciate that thank you yeah and you guys are obviously doing this without James yeah we both play with James we know how close we are with James how was that whole process with you were you disappointed were you hype was it getting distracted like how did that shake out for you well you know like the hoopers at the table you know we naturally hoopers and we understand like a good team and a not good team so like with James we would have we would have been like we would have been stumping shit but without James we still would have been stumping shit it just might have been a little harder we might not have to go through the front door we might have to sneak through the window and order to stomp you know I'm sorry so like it's different it's 100 ways to skin a cat we just had to find our our our way and our way is you know defensively playing fast uh posting it uh making reads off that and it's been it's been a vibe it's been a vibe for like we lost in like two months Pat I for those of us who just are fans right we don't understand sometimes the behind the scenes the business of it all you know obviously you're close to James and when he wants out how does that play into relationships do you try to convince him to stay like how how does that work out no so when I got to the team it was already a it was already conversation so you know uh so I kind of knew that coming in but when I seen him at training camp you know he looked in shape he looked good you know I'm saying the energy was great you know I'm saying like his he was you know he was the you know same James he was he was good in practice he was coaching in practice so uh I didn't think you know I didn't look for anything different I was actually just excited to see you know be back on the on the team with you know an old friend of mine I mean there's a guy uh Dallas Mavericks the guy the reporter the broadcaster he had he had a rant the other night it went viral and when your friends with someone and they're the target of moments like this and I want to play a little bit of it and get your reaction on the other side hey James you're the problem if this doesn't work this year in this system with this team you're going to go back home and you're going to start swiping right for another team there's not going to be anybody left because James is not the beard you're not the system you're the problem I mean it's okay he practiced that in the mirror a couple of times it was delivered without any sort of stumbles or anything what you think first off right everyone's entitled to their opinion right and and us as athletes like you know it started you know from the heckling fan and it started you know more on the instagram than it got awful on the twitter so like from a basketball player like we see this you know we see this and it's funny but one thing that the media don't understand is that you can say something like this and the team is playing bad and it might not be for a James Harden it might be for a you know a mid-level guy a guy who you know earns 10 to 15 million dollars and you say something like that about him you talk about this can potentially make sure this guy's not in the NBA anymore you know so like I want I want to be aware of like the things that says throughout the media for basketball players is his opinion his opinion of course you know I'm saying the stats that the the the facts that he brung up you can really look back and be like damn like he's absolutely right but that's his truth and it's you know it's always three troops it's his it's the other guys and it's actually the truth so I think it's ballsy I like that he did it but you know do I agree with it as a player no but it comes with the territory you know we make a lot of money we're on the pedestal all the time and when you don't win and you don't you aren't successful and at a high level all the time compared to the greats you're gonna get some of this kind of uh backlash and criticism patch you know we still got we still got brothers in that in that clippers locker room um off to a slow start since since the Harden trade 0 and 4 they will be an awful regular season team they go be a dangerous playoff team because you know the playoffs all about matchups but when it comes to off season they go be they go be god awful because it's gonna be like it's gonna be it's gonna be one person that's gonna be left out you know and what you see what you what you see is the issue though nah it just it just camaraderie like they ain't spending a lot of time with each other you know I'm saying and like you can't practice a lot because you practice a lot it now you got to worry about your health you know I'm saying throughout a long journey of a season you know it's hard when you get new guys from training camp you know I'm saying and they haven't been in training camp with you and don't know the plays and James not trying to step on nobody told you know with step backs and kawai go get his so it's gonna be a odd man out they just got to pick who they want the odd man out to be and if y'all was watching my podcast I actually spoke about the subject to like inform everybody so y'all you know maybe y'all have a little bit more tasteful information while I'm on y'all show but let's go be the odd man out for sure and now Pat who who is that gonna be we kind of argue all the time on this I think it's going to be Russ he thinks it may have to be a James it's not it's not going to be a YPG so one of Russ or James have to come off the bench right now I wouldn't say okay I wouldn't say technically come off the bench it's just somebody got to be cool of reading the game understand okay one of them got to come off the bench bro let's go be a seven to 11 type of game and I got to do other things like I might have to go in there I might have to be a defensive guy tonight you feel me like and in another game as pros we understand like it's you know we're doing all this to get to the playoffs when we get to the playoffs they're gonna be one of the most dangerous teams because it's all about matchups so like they just have to weather the storm throughout the season I think that's you know now you see you see coaching you know now you get to see how good Talu Talu is and uh you know I'm excited to see it yeah now going back to your guys squad Pat Joelle obviously but they're god awful right now god off hot garbage you know I'm saying and it's and it's it's unfortunate but these are the woes that you got to go through to become a successful team in order to you know I'm saying to ride your bike you got to fall in order to know how to rollerblades you got to fall in order to ski you got to fall so that's the falling point right now we said this to and they're also about a two or three game win streak from nobody talking about this anymore anyway so the winning solves everything which is what you guys are doing Joelle MVP season Tyrese Maxie obviously blowing up looking like the most improved player in the league and your opinion is this the best duo in the NBA or is this one of the where do you rank those two guys because they are straight balling right now I mean it's you know we've been having a our schedule has been fortunate you know we play some good teams we play some young teams and you know also our schedule has been fortunate we've been you know we we had some you know some some some home games we're not even really like I think we like 40% of like our offense and like 40% of our defense like we like nursing really even like open it all up so like we still like you know we just made a trade obviously the James Harden trade we got you know Covington and Batum and you know we were used to PJ Tucker through the whole training council like this is a this is a learning process for us also but uh I think when you have a monster like Joelle and me and you know and Lou and channel y'all know when you get a young player like that and you just want to you know as me as being one of the veterans on the team you want to just this is how you do everything right so you can maximize all your opportunity you know and mix with he's in a gym first you know earlier than anybody else he's the last one to lead you know you get that type of potent duo I think it uh it sets it sets up success instant yeah and you've played with a lot of big greats Dwight Howard DeAndre Jordan Rudy Gobert Cap 80 is Joelle the best big you've ever played with so when you play with bigs right and that's and that's your perspective you think the big at the time that you play with is great until you see another big it's true you know I'm saying so like I thought Dwight Howard I've never seen anything like it until I seen you know Carl Anthony Towns you know I'm saying did not see in Carl Anthony Towns I'm like man it's my fuck cold until I ran into Joelle and be it's different it's different it's different playing with them and playing against them you know he know how to like he and and I don't think people understand his IQ and it's like his his his understanding for the game of basketball he's his his shit is at an all-time high respect for him respect him I like that also you play with Anthony Edwards another star the other night he was covered a week week week technical foul just staring down Dario Sarich do you agree with that do you think the refs are getting a little too loose with these with these whistles no that's perfect right you got to understand the game that the NBA and this media like the plate I think that's why I've been fortunate to be successful throughout you know this is kind of kind of media stint while I'm in NBA you stop a play like that you put highlight on the play right you keep that play going maybe it's too fast maybe Steph Curry comes down bangs the three right I don't even think the referees or ref it actually what's going on you stop that play you can put that play on instant replay twelve times before a play gets going on now you the more fans get to see the dunk over and over and over it's like an algorithm you know you just got to understand the symbols everything don't let that get over your head I know I'm giving y'all free games but nah I disagree with you don't patch if if if you make a if you make a play like that I think you draw more fan you draw more fans in when you when you allow the guys to show emotion you allow that that element of the game back into it if we can keep it under control I granted some guys are going to take it too far you know what I'm saying somebody going to mess it up but you but you you're talking to the the casual fan anyway you know I'm saying you you're talking to the fan who don't think Dream On's a good basketball player Pat Bale's a good basketball player because of points so you can't you can't you can't feed that to them you got to feed the other stuff to them the catchy stuff the technical foul and oh yeah yeah you know you got to feed that to them because we're not dealing with real basketball fans a lot we're dealing with the casual ones so look since we since we're talking about fan celebrations and bringing it back you champion the two small celebration right yeah is there one guy you still got on your head list that you trying to you trying to hit him with the two small hey Lou I ain't go live if you came out of retirement I'm looking for you you know me man you know I got my first 40 point game against Pat Bale yeah you did you played well I didn't get a chance to tell you the way I needed but you know me I'm pulling that I'm pulling the two little on everybody I don't care I'm here to play basketball I'm here to have fun playing basketball I'm here to impact winning you'll be like I'm pulling on everybody I'm looking at you on the screen patch how are you so that's what I'm saying how can you advocate for them to stop play like that that's a distraction too so how you don't get a technical foul for that I wish I would but how much money have you paid in fines and technical fouls in your career would they say something like 700,000 I'm close to hey I'm sure I'm sure it's getting spent in some good places man good charity work yeah no it ain't NBA cares though it's not it ain't NBA cares though it's not it's not it ain't it ain't it ain't but channel you feel I'm having my way right now man life is good I can't compare you got the vibe so I'm here ladies and gentlemen he got the mr. nice watch I see what's going on that ain't going with my head you know life is good this whole thing life is good oh this little that bear pie cat come on I thought y'all had some folks I had some good questions for me let's talk about we just we just wanted you all so we had a good time yeah I just wanted to hang it without a number for us all right Pat I got something I got something all right give me a good one who is an all NBA type player that you kind of think is trash that you lock up every time and you can go old school or you can go new what are you just old school you can't count because the way I be feeling out of the games I'm 35 years old the way I feel right now very different than I felt before so I ain't gonna go old school you know they be in a feelings anyway so I'm gonna go to old school but I'm gonna go I'm gonna go new school I'm gonna go new school that I lock up that's that's enjoyable like I enjoy locking them up oh shit who we who we play I don't know I don't really get a touch that damn a lot I don't know man we gotta do it again next time I'll play somebody I lock them up then I'll pick that guy all right you gotta come back on patch before before you go let me let me ask you this you know we've played for a number of coaches different ones give me one coach and I'm gonna see if we agree on this give me one coach that you just absolutely don't agree with this dude don't know what he's talking about shit I got one we won't go viral too bad he's still pushing I know I know say less okay okay but our relationship with him was different Lou who did you know our relationship with doc was very different yeah I think I think I think you know like like man doc used to have conversations that you know nobody on the team that we was having y'all probably had the same thing too I think you look at the doc situation you should be looking at the clippers ale frank situation yeah no we love that we love that we love that yeah I think that the clipper situation you get it you give away your backbone you know that's why people need to understand what the heart and soul and I'm not talking about now I'm talking about how they got to now right you make the Chris Paul trade people clown but it really turns out to be a diamond in the rub you got me Montrez you got Lou will you got guys that's gonna do whatever for your organization literally boost your organization so you're able to to attain kawai lennon and paul george not what you don't do as the organizations with with with you know people don't understand yet and they and there's some some organizations do they do understand you know the heat they understand what the culture is they and they and they and they pay the culture and they they take care of the culture but if you don't take care of the culture the domino effect is now if this team doesn't play now you talk about a potentially somebody in the upper office losing their job if we've been real all because you didn't want to you know you didn't want to uh this shit we we we ain't even the oil you just didn't want to put no more fucking car washing fluid we the car washing fluid yeah and now we're okay and i'm saying that we're okay for being a car washing fluid but we understand what the engine oil is we understand who the gas is we understand that but you still in order to see you need car washing the fluid they're going to the windows so like they they they they mishandled that they misjudged that and now you're in a position like a guy or guys an organization might potentially lose their job or these guys might be traded channelers so lost on the analogy understand the words what is wrong with you my last question pat this in season tournament i still don't fully understand oh for the cause they're like an incentive for a guy like you to just just motivate you at all just the 500 racks is that is that hell yeah what is that is that that's so the money is the incentive on the just in this tournament no i don't think the money is all i think you know naturally hoopers regardless like i'll guarantee channel you go to a while right now and it's a great pickup game you go take your game to another level regardless if you plan for money or not so i think they just get in the you know i'm saying i think them putting the you know the end season tournament in i think it's great for the fans it's a different court you know but the vibes out there it's real competitive we played Detroit they all they was on our ass you know i'm saying so like like it makes the game especially for young teams young teams or this is their championship it makes it makes the game much better you know why detroit was on y'all ass it was that 500k they got a lot of young boys on that team that's 500 gonna go a long way where that 500 500k in vegas for pat bev go a long way you know how we do but i think it's coaching too i think coaching when you when you get to a team like that the detroit and you know the team that's not you know you know it's probably not going to be in a playoff contention or might be in a plan i think this this shows your you know how good how prepared you are how good a coaching you are how you have your team ready i think it helps coaching too and coaching jobs pat beverly this has been i've just been thoroughly entertained yet the next question i honestly because i think it's it's better if they do it to be quite frank i just feel that's not true yeah that's not true it is i promise um it's the the podcast the pat bev podcast subscribe and listen it's free for god's thanks everybody subscribe free and and we speak about women's basketball we speak about women's basketball honestly you're a woman up here you're a woman up here and we're gonna get a woman always credit because we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the women so we speak w mba they are underpaid they need to get more teams uh the god clay travis made something about a high school team w mba team like no none of that so like all love to w mba also yeah we'll edit that name out we don't even like to say it pat uh we appreciate the time this was awesome and uh we'll be back with that man's god family rest up 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