 What a very young and scrawny, um, what's his name? Was that actor? It should be came. 007 Brian Pierce Brosnan Pierce Brosnan was about to say Remington steel. Yeah. Wow. Oh yeah. I, and I still think of him as Remington steel, even though most people don't, I loved that show. In fact, I'm probably never seen it after. Are you sure that there wasn't a glass of water? I could be wrong. Hold a glass of water against wall. We'll revisit this after the show. Yes. I'm not saying that's impossible, but I don't see how that works. Unless if, I mean, either water all down the wall, it never made sense. Anyway, we were just like, I don't know. It's science. You just do that and then you can hear the conversation better. All right. You guys ready? Yeah. Um, Ms. Lane, would you read line three today, please? I would, I would, but all right. I will count you in and just about five seconds here. We got five, four, three, two, one. Thanks to everyone who supports independent tech news directly. If you're not already become a DTNS member at patreon.com slash DTNS. This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, December 11th, 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Feline, I'm Sarah Lane. And from the edges of LA County, I'm Roger Chang, the show's producer. Nicole Lee, senior editor at Engadget.com is back on the show. Welcome back, Nicole. Hello. Happy to be back. Thank you for being here. Nicole is going to talk to us about the advances made by the comedic stylings of smart speakers later in the show. You've been covering this for months, literally, literally, with a new beat. Yeah, are smart speakers funnier than you may think? The answer may surprise you. But first, let's start with a few tech things you should know. Dell announced it will buy back VMware tracking stock from its acquisition of EMC at a price of $120 per share, totaling $23.9 billion and return to being a publicly traded company starting on December 28th. 61% of Dell shareholders voted in favor of the deal. Dell is $50 billion in debt from the $67 billion EMC acquisition that it made two years ago. Now, VMware was a big part of that acquisition. VMware will continue to run as a separate company with a separate stock listing. That doesn't really change. But if we are keeping score, yes. Dell has gone from going public in 1988 to going private in 2013 to going public again in just a couple of weeks. So 20 years of the go private again? Is that how the pattern works? Instagram started rolling out a walkie-talkie feature on Instagram direct Tuesday, users can hold down the microphone button, record a voice message up to one minute long, and it's permanent and works in one-on-one and group chats, both iOS and Android. So it's not exactly walkie-talk, right? Because you're recording, not. Anyway, that's cool. That's fun. Go enjoy it. Let's talk a little about the latest on the SuperMicro stuff. We haven't talked about this in a bit. We haven't, although SuperMicro itself announced that an outside firm, which a source tells Reuters is Nardello and Co, found no evidence of malicious hardware in SuperMicro's current or older motherboards. SuperMicro commissioned the investigation after a Bloomberg article that was back in October reported that the Chinese government had implanted hardware on SuperMicro boards in order to spy on traffic. Company always denied those claims. The firm tested samples of current motherboards, including versions that were sold to Apple and Amazon and said, well, we didn't find anything. They examined software and design files as well. Yeah. I mean, there's not much to say on this, but I figured it was worth a check-in to note that Bloomberg still sticks by its sources. And there has been literally no other evidence that their story is correct. Government denials, company denials, and now the independent investigation that SuperMicro hired has come out. I mean, SuperMicro did this basically to reassure their stockholders. Who were very nervous that Bloomberg story might be true to say, look, we had an independent investigators. Look, they didn't find anything that doesn't prove that it didn't happen. Just in case, you know, if you know, it just means they didn't find any evidence. It could have been a very small batch and maybe has been disappeared at this point. And you wouldn't find it, but it also we don't have any evidence that it did happen other than Bloomberg sources at this point. It was an odd story from the beginning in the sense that, of course, SuperMicro, well, not of course, but SuperMicro denied claims immediately. But one would think the company would do that, whether or not they were guilty or not. But Apple also came out and said, this is absolutely not true. We would know. And there have been a lot of sort of counter sources saying, well, there's something wrong with this Bloomberg article. Like, you know, they apparently talk to all these folks, but but there aren't enough sort of, you know, for anybody who does a lot of reporting, you know, fact checking that has happened with the story. But again, it's Bloomberg. This is not a publication that that that would publish something like this that has apparently been so well researched, researched. Thank you. That, yeah, it's it's a little confuddling. However, having an outside organization saying, all right, well, we did our due diligence and there is again, nothing wrong here is working in SuperMicro's favor. Nicole, what do you make of all this? Like you said, Sarah, I think there's no I mean, I'm sure Bloomberg has their reasons. I'm sure Bloomberg has their reasoning of why they think their side of the story is accurate and true. So I think I mean, it's hard to say at this point I mean, SuperMicro may very well have a point here that there was no malicious shifts, I think it's wrong and Apple might we'll have throw up on point two. I think it really will see. We'll see. I think that needs to be a little bit more investigation than to really figure out what happened. Doesn't seem like Bloomberg is going to make another statement about this. They stand by their sources and that's it. That and that's all they need to do. There's there's no legal incumbency on them to to say where their sources came from. Unless someone can convince a judge that there was malicious intent in publishing this story, you can't get them on on libel. So we may be at a standoff and it may be left as a mystery what the difference is here. We'll see. CEO Sundar Pichai of Google told the US House Judiciary Committee right now, right now, there are no plans to launch search in China. Pichai said Google has developed and looked at what search could look like. We've had the project underway for a while. And at one point, we've had over a hundred people working on it when asked if he would avoid censorship or surveillance tools. If they were to launch in China, Pichai said he would be very thoughtful about any relaunch. He added there are no current discussions with the Chinese government. No current discussions. An anonymous Chinese government official told Reuters it was unlikely Google could could get clearance to launch in the next year. So no matter what Google really intends, this is not going to happen anytime soon. If you don't recall, Google pulled out of search in China in 2010 over pressure to censor results, claims of cyber attacks against Google originating from within China. To be honest, this took up a very small amount of this hearing. This hearing spent a lot of time on the question of bias. But there wasn't a lot of substantive talk on either side about that. Basically, the congressional questions were we think you're biased. And here's our example. And Google said, I'm confident we don't approach our work with any political bias. Sooner Pichai said independent studies have not uncovered any bias. So he said she said they're except for the pointing at the research. Even though it took up a very small amount, Google said a lot by what it didn't say in the China stuff, admitting that it was creating a search engine for China internally as an experiment. And Pichai tried to convince the Congress that what they're doing is saying, hey, you know what? We know when information is made available, it causes positive results in every area of the world where we've launched. Is there a way for us to do this in China is what they're examining? A lot of people don't believe that, though. Nicole, do you? I think it really does seem like, as you said, like they've been working on this dragonfly, quote, unquote dragonfly project for a while now. And even though he says right now we have no plans to launch in China, clearly they do, clearly they did or have had plans at one point. So and it seems, according to this, some some some recent stories as well, they have uncovered how deep this research had gone into. It sounds like it was basically a almost fully flashed out product at some point and we'll see. I don't I don't I don't really know what the discussions are with the Chinese government, whether there has something to do with the the the the rollout of this thing. And of course, there have been some employee pushback in the past few months about the whole censorship thing. So we'll see if it actually happens. But there is significant pushback for sure. No, I mean, is no Google in China better than Google playing along with with Chinese policy? I'm not saying it is or it isn't. I'm just asking the question. Oh, that's a good that's that's a question. I is it is it better for Google to be in China for them? What do we mean by better? I guess we can sort of. Well, that's a great question for yeah, I have a feeling that's probably what Sundar Pichai and team were thinking when they developed this internally. What if we could create a Google that had positive impact on opening up China while playing within its rules to the letter? Could we do that? That may have been what they were after. That's that's that's at least the best interpretation of what they might have been after. That sounds impossible. And and and maybe that's where they came is like, yeah, we can't really do that. We but you would have to talk to the Chinese government to find out if what you were thinking would even work or be approved. A new Pew Research study found that one in five U.S. adults say that they often get news via social media. Now, this is interesting because this beats print newspapers as a source for the first time, at least as far as Pew has been doing this particular kind of research and asking folks this questions. Television is still the most popular news source, although TV has declined a little since 2016 and probably will continue to do so. News websites are the next most common source than radio. And then finally, that social media and print area social media has just edged it out in the latest report. Pew also asked people for the first time if they got news from a streaming device, if they were actually getting their news from television, nine percent of respondents said, yes, they do so often. So that is a percentage that will probably continue to to to increase your rear. I didn't see the surpassing of of of print newspapers by social media as significant as most of the other headline writers did out there. And I say are there because I have been one. This is more an indictment of the decline of newspaper subscriptions, print subscriptions than it is. The only thing that surprised me about it was that it didn't happen sooner. Yeah, right. I mean, because news websites are the next most common source after television, which is a lot of times newspaper websites, right? Sure. So it's it's the print. It's the in your hands holding it in your hands that's that's falling below social media. I would. Yeah, like you say, Sarah, I would have expected that that might have already happened. What's more significant to me is that if you combine news websites and social media, then forty three percent of adults get their news from the web, whether it's social media or websites or whatever. That's that's gaining on television at forty nine percent. That seems significant to me. Nicole, as a as a news read yourself, what where do you fall in the spectrum? You know, does anything about this surprise you? Where do you feel like you get your most news? I mean, it's probably Internet, but, you know, is it is it social media? Is it, you know, more traditional websites or? I do. I mean, I think like most people, I get my news through social media as well as, you know, going to the actual website like, you know, New York Times dot com or SF gate dot com. Or of course, I get to dot com. I have to see my own site, but I like, I mean, like everyone said, I know the fact that this is new is surprising. Like, why didn't this happen a long time ago? But I don't think, you know, whether or not, you know, print newspapers, I guess they are kind of a dying breed. But news websites are still pretty strong. I like that that's New York Times dot com and like any other website dot com. I still like my number one destination usually for news. Me, yeah, for me, it's the BBC, but it's a news website. Right. I mean, I look at it as an app on my phone usually more often than not. But, you know, I'm not I'm not much of a newspaper reader, but I will get the Sunday New York Times, you know, it's a little ritual. I like the crossword, whatever. And it's funny in a neighborhood that I moved to recently. You can't find it anywhere. I mean, I'm sure it's around somewhere, but it's like you got the L.A. Times and like a variety of other publications. But the New York Times is just not something that you're seeing, you know, while you're at the checkout, the way that I remember always seeing it in years past, which might lend itself to this conversation. Yeah, it's interesting. It's just like a little footnote PS here is that a lot of newspapers are hiring like they're hiring like gangbusters right now for journalists, editors. So the business is not dying by any means. No, it's just moving to the web, which I think we all kind of do was going to have. Walmart opened its first online store in Japan in partnership with Japanese company, a lot. Kooten, the Walmart Rakuten Ichiban store is what it's called. It's hosted on Rakuten's Ichiba Digital Shopping Mall. Walmart will fulfill orders from the U.S. and ship directly to customers with the duties in taxes bundled into the price. So you see something that's 20,000 yen, you pay 20,000 yen. Don't worry about duties and taxes. That'll that'll be all covered by your price. And then it just ships directly to you from the United States. You can get access to a lot of things that you might not be able to get access to otherwise. Walmart and Rakuten partnered up in January. They is when they announced it. They're also working together on grocery delivery in Japan and in the U.S. Rakuten is selling its Kobo ebooks, audio books and e-readers in Walmart in the U.S. I find this it's interesting that's got so much buzz. I think it's because Amazon has stepped into Japan very successfully. Everyone wants to see if Walmart can stay in the game with Amazon. And then there's the addition of Japan being an interesting market to break into on its own just because it is a more difficult market to break into from the outside sometimes. Nicole, what do you think? I was just going to ask whether these like what kind I guess the kinds of clothings and outdoor items like from U.S. brand. So like Levi's jeans, like I'm just wondering what kind of products. Sure. I mean, forget Walmart is not just clothing, right? Walmart's groceries and electronics and toys and everything you can think of. Yeah. So I'm guessing that you won't be able to buy U.S. DVDs, first of all, because they're read and coded or could you? Is this going to be like a cool American import source for people? I think it's interesting. I think it's kind of funny. And, you know, the whole, like you mentioned, Japanese U.S. relations, there's there's definitely a thing in Japanese culture where they where they sort of like American style products and they like the culture. So I can kind of see that. But I also think it's really funny to have to be Walmart, to be Japanified in a certain way. I'd be really interested to see them like Japan specific Walmart products or something like that. You know, I don't know. I think that's funny. Well, get a load of this next story, guys, because it's very exciting to me. Puma is re-releasing its 1986 era RS computer running shoe and a limited run. It had a computer chip built into its heel module. Not even kidding. Don't remember this. It was 1996, after all, to record distance, time and calories. And the shoe could connect through a 16-pin connector to any Apple IIe Commodore 64 or IBM PC to view their data. The new edition adds features that are more modern, like a three-axis accelerometer, LED lights, a USB port for charging and Bluetooth to connect wirelessly to a phone. Puma is releasing only 86 individually numbered pairs that will be sold at stores in Berlin, Tokyo and London. Those are official Puma stores, as well as KITH retailers going on sale on December 13th. Put those in my stocking. Well, this is a really weird take on the whole retro trend, right? It really is. It's like reminding people that, like, hey, we did this way back before the Apple Watch type thing. Because it's not a new design. It's faithfully replicating the exterior of the original chunky Puma RS computer. Which was quite chunky. Yeah, especially that key, right? Yeah, which was the reason that it was probably, yeah, for any nerd back in the 80s, it was probably a pretty cool thing. But otherwise, not real aerodynamic as far as a Puma shoe goes. I remember this. And I remember thinking it was dumb because it was too chunky. It didn't do much, and it was really expensive, and you couldn't buy them. I think it was probably the last one that made me think it was dumb. As a 16-year-old, I was like, yeah, you mean I can't get one for good? Expensive, stupid. Too expensive, and I can't get one. Well, at the time, though, data collection, as far as personal data, like how many miles did I walk? How many stairs did I climb? Calorie burned. Yeah, very different days than today, where every device we expect to give us that information as long as it's on our person. Yeah, well, I'm not going to be wanting to get one of these 86 either, so I still think it's dumb. I think it's great. Good on you, Puma. Somebody guide me one of those. Yeah, if someone buys me one, I will change my mind. If you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, we've got the thing for you. It's another show we do in the DTNS land called Daily Tech Headlines. You can get all the headlines summarized in about five minutes at DailyTechHeadlines.com. So a few months go back in June, Nicole did a story on how funny the different voice assistants are. You actually talked to stand-up comedians and had them evaluate how funny the assistants are, but you haven't stopped there. You've been following up on this story, and apparently the Echo, I don't know if it's as a result of your story, maybe, because I know one of your comedians ranked the Echo as the funniest of the assistants, but it has gotten a job and improv, Nicole. Yeah, so there's a local improv comedy show in San Francisco. It's called Alexa Improvise, and it's kind of a ponder. It's AI, Alexa Improvise. Anyway, Alexa Improvise, where they use an Amazon Echo as kind of a prop slash inspiration for their improv comedy shows. So there's essentially two parts of the show. There are short little games in the beginning, it's sort of like Who's Line Is It Anyway, where they use the Echo as like little prompts for things. For example, if they're having like a game, like a game where people are experts on subjects, they can ask the Echo, hey Echo, what is the fastest car in the US? And it will sort of tell you this fact and they can incorporate it into their little game. But that's sort of like introducing what the Echo can do. The second part of the show is the longer format of the show, where they take an audience suggestion of a noun, and then they ask the Echo to say, Alexa, read me a book on blank. And it could be read me a book on cups, read me a book on microphones. And it will actually read an audible excerpt on like a random book on this random topic and they can use that little excerpt as a jumping off point for their improper routines. But the, and I attended one of these shows and it's hilarious because even when the Echo gets it wrong, it's funny. In fact, it's even funnier when he gets it wrong. For example, there's this one point where they asked, they were doing a skit and one of the improvisers asked the Echo, Alexa, what is the most popular car? Stop saying her name because you're setting mine off and I'm sure everybody's listening. The A-word, Echo Lady, what is the most popular car? Echo Lady, that's kind of right. And then instead of answering the question, she was like, I like electric cars. And then so the improviser was like, yes, I like electric cars too. So and then that was sort of the jumping off point for this routine. And a lot of times, a lot of the humor is when she just doesn't answer the questions and she just like, just completely fails at her job. And it was really interesting, I was reading this New York Times article and hopefully you'll have a little thing on it where there may not have like a precedent of people trying to make robots funny. Like AI researchers, they're just trying to like make it interesting. I think the reasoning for this is the idea is that we want robots to be friendly. We want robots to be our friends kind of. We want them to be our companions, our cubistically human substitute companion. So we want to instill in them some kind of personality. You're cybernetical who's fun to be with. Right, and that's kind of like a basis for a lot of science fiction. We mentioned this before the show, but data and Star Trek telling really bad jokes and there's this researcher in the New York Times where he was basically feeding this AI movie quotes from like thousands of hundreds of movies just to like, just to teach it context, teach it how to talk to people and teach it interesting comebacks for quotes. And, you know, they kind of, this person can remember his name and let me just give it a proper dupe and do it. Peter Murowski as an AI researcher for Google's DeepMind, I believe. And he kind of managed to get it working, you know, as kind of a show. But even in those situations, it's the part where the AI, the robot messes up where it's funny. And I, we're at the point right now where that's kind of where we are. Like it's really, it's really hard. It turns out humor is really difficult. For humans as well. Yeah. The one thing I took away from your story is that, first of all, there are many things that AI can't do as well as us yet. And it's questionable whether they'll ever be able to do it as well as us. And one is humor. Like you said, data on Star Trek, The Next Generation is sort of the fictional example of this. Just not able to understand humor because it's not logical. It doesn't fit a pattern. In fact, it thrives on subverting the pattern. So an AI that will be able to make us laugh is going to be a huge advance for AI. I'm also fascinated with this idea that the Echo is now a new category in improv. Props and suggestions from the audience are what improv thrives on. If you've never been to an improv show, it is generally a thing where they'll ask the audience like, give me a noun, give me a food, give me this, give me that. And then they create, they improvise a funny situation around those things. Having the Echo providing some of those, but also being a participant that you can bounce things off of and ask questions to is sort of straddling that line. And I find that fascinating. Yeah, and at one point during the show, one of the improvisers asked the Echo, what is, tell me an interesting fact. And just like, add an interesting pizzazz to the show. And of course, if you ask the Echo, tell me an interesting fact. It will tell you a random interesting fact about just anything. And in our show, it was like, oh, did you know army ants excrete a pheromone that enables them to follow around? And sometimes army ants die by just walking around in circles because they've lost the scent of their fellow coworkers. And like, this is a really dark turn for this kind of funny comedy show. But interesting nonetheless. Interesting nonetheless. They managed to turn into something humorous in part of the sketch. So I thought that was fascinating and hilarious. And one of the improvisers told me, it's great when she gets things right, but it's even better when she gets things wrong. Yeah, because that's, again, comedy thrives on surprise and thrives on subversion. And so when she gets things wrong, it's feeding right into that, which is I'm sure why they like it. Well, if you wanna read more about this, you're gonna have this article out in Engadget tomorrow, right? December 12th. So if you're listening to this December 12th, then go look, it's there at Engadget.com. Hey, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit, Engadget stories, and others are always featured. You can submit your own and vote on other stories at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. Also, we're on Facebook. If you wanna hang out on Facebook with us, please do so, Facebook.com slash groups slash dailytechnewshow. Well, let's check out what's in the old mailbag. Oh, that. So Marlon had some really good insight. He posted this on our blog, and this is in reference to our story yesterday about the possibility of the Millie Rock dance being in Fortnite without attribution and what it might mean. Marlon says, I was a little disappointed when he said in the Millie Rock story that Millie just wants to get paid. Millie, of course, is a rapper. Not a verbatim quote, and I know Malice was not intended with what you said. However, I've been following this for a while, and Millie and other black creators have been mulling this over for a while, and they're more upset at the lack of respect. This is historical for black creators, especially in the digital age. Black Twitter can tell you all about it than anything else. The instances you mentioned about Beyonce and others using the same dance also neglected to mention that they reached out to him beforehand. Would have also been not worthy to discuss the legal argument that they're making, which focuses on Epic's creative process. Epic, of course, makes Fortnite, particularly the act of using copyrighted music videos to create the animations that they use for in-game emotes. They're alleging that the animators are tracing over copyrighted images in the videos to create the emotes, tricky legal waters, but rather interesting. And I'd love to hear the legal geeks take on it. Well, yeah, I would love to hear the legal geeks take on it too. So maybe check out Legal Geek at the end of Current Geek, which is a different show, but I'm sure he will touch on it. I don't think they can get very far because if you're tracing over a copyrighted image to create something new, that is kind of the definition of fair use. It's kind of the definition of transformative use. I don't think they've got a copyright case there, and that's why I didn't touch on that. But the other points here are very well-made. I didn't realize that he had reached out beforehand, or that, I'm sorry, that they had reached out beforehand to him about using the Millie Rock, which makes perfect sense. That's the weird Al Yankovic model too, right? He has the right to do the parodies, but he reaches out for approval. So that makes, I actually brought those examples up, not to make Millie Rock or make to Millie look bad, but to say, hey, there's people in the community who can do this that he approves of, there's a way to do this right. And I made that point very badly. So thank you, Marlon, for helping me make it better. I was going on the wanting to get paid from a lot of the things that two Millie said in the video that I watched, but the idea that really what they want as a respect makes more sense to me, actually, because really what he's saying is, hey, you just took this and you didn't talk to me, and that's disrespectful. And I'm glad Marlon corrected us on that. Thank you, Marlon. Thank you very much, Marlon. Really good insight there. Also, thanks to Nicole Lee for being with us on this fine Tuesday. Nicole, where can everyone keep up with your work? 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And you can find out more until a friend at patreon.com or at dailytechnewshow.com slash live. Back tomorrow with Scott Johnson. Talk to you then. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more at frogpants.com. Prime and Club hopes you have enjoyed this program. Alexa, tell me a joke. At patreon.com slash what, Sarah? How many times have you done that? What? What? Why is your A lady a man's voice? Well, first of all, it's Jimmy Fallon. Oh. That's a feature they're doing right now where you can... That's what they're doing right now. They're letting Jimmy tell the jokes. Did you hear the joke? No. Was it funny? Because with Fallon, you know... It was about bread in an oven. And the bread said to the oven, thanks for helping me rise. And the oven said it's the least I could do. Okay. That's my kind of joke. Grown. Yes. Grown. So stupid. No, it's groany. But those are the best jokes. I mean, that's kind of what these jokes are. You know, they're kind of groany jokes. Your story from back in June, where you tested the jokes from different assistants with the comedians, I personally found the Cortana jokes you used the funniest. Yeah. I think the reason why I think they were funny is because they had context. And it was like deeper than just a one line. I don't know. I thought it was interesting. Yeah. There was more subversion to the Cortana jokes. At least the one that you... Yeah. With the Google ones, every single Google joke has a sound effect in the end, which is so corny. Yeah. It's corny. Really? It's so corny. Siri and Echo walk into a bar. There's also take my series. Take my series, please. Take it. The Cortana joke I liked was the bar man says, we don't serve time travelers in here. A time traveler walks into the bar. Yeah. That's good. That's a good joke. That's long, but very clever. I love it. All right. I'm going to say that Siri can't echo Miss A's humor. Oh, you were giving us titles earlier. I did not actually get under that. I apologize. I thought you were just thinking. I really did think you were just saying things. Oh, no. These are titles. Okay. Say again, what's our best title? Can we say Alexa's name? In the title, we can say it. Yeah. Siri can't echo Alex's humor. Siri can't echo. But I mean, the point of the discussion wasn't that Siri is bad at jokes and Amazon is. How about AI, artificial improvisation? Isn't that just the title of the actual event? Nicole, that's the title of the event, right? The title of the show is Alexa improvise. I'm sorry I said the A word. Well, artificial improvisation is, I don't know. Okay. So it's different. Okay. Yeah. I mean, you can put that. I mean, it's not, it's fine. The other choice is Siri and echo walk into a bar. So in the spirit of the whole thing. That sounds like you don't like that one much though. Well, it just seems like what you do, whatever you do, a company title. You can say walk into a bar. Yeah. It's the obvious one. You're right. It's the trope. All right. All right. We don't want to be obvious. Well, AI, artificial improvisation is pretty obvious. I like either of those actually. I like the walking to the bar, but I would say instead of echo the A word, we're writing it out. Oh, I hate it. Oh man. So like, I don't know about you Tom, but I find my Amazon device, let's say it triggers like even words that don't really even sound like, I just like, what are you? Why is it just coming out all of a sudden? So what are we calling it, Roger? Artificial improvisation. AI colon. AI colon. Artificial improvisation. Yeah. No, it's weird what it will turn on for where I'm like, that isn't at all your name. But I just like, I'll have to think back and go, oh, I guess I said accelerate or a weird way. I'm like, okay. That's a perfect jumping point off for a line or of jokes in the standard protein, right? Yeah. I don't know what turns on my echo, but I sure know what turns on my blah, blah, blah. Yeah. If you're working in the 1950s, that's... Take my echo, please. Take my echo, please. Take my sweater, please. That was a title suggestion. Now it makes sense. I thought you were just making up jokes when you said that earlier. I was like, okay. All right. I think that's a cue for me to go back to work. It's not cue. It's data. Data didn't have a jumpy hue. It's really different. Get it right. Oh, wow. Where's my rotten tomato? Yes. If we were a Google assistant, we would give you a rim shot right there. Rim shot. I don't know. Well, thank you again, Nicole. Thanks, Nicole. I was going to see you. Hi. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. You're at CES, right? Yes, I am. Are you at CES too? We'll see you in January. I'll email you. All right. All right. Bye. Bye. All right. Roger and Tom. Yes. We were talking about nostalgic things yesterday. I don't know. A yesteryear. Did either of you read Shel Silverstein's books as a child? No. Is that the... It's where the sidewalk ends and a lightning attic. The lightning attic I read. Yeah. Isn't the giving tree also Shel Silverstein? No. Actually, I shouldn't say that. It's possible. Anyway, I've read them as an adult. I have a Shel Silverstein album, but I never read them as a kid. Okay. Written and illustrated by Shel Silverstein. Yes. You're right. The giving tree. So that one I'm not so familiar with, but lightning attic and where the sidewalk ends were poems for kids. Yeah. It was a poem that he, you know, had written. And when we were talking about dad jokes earlier, I remembered that there was a poem that I just, it's like committed to memory, but I kind of forgot some of the details and I'm going to read it now. And it has to do with food. So I thought that it would be good for GDI. What did the carrot say to the wheat? Let us rest. I'm feeling beat. What did the paper say to the pen? I feel quite all right, my friend. Right. What did the teapot say to the chalk? Nothing. You silly teapots can't talk. Seriously. What the hell? It's adorable. If anyone's out there as a parent and like wants to like give their kid like an adorable poem, book of poems, these, his work. I loved that as a kid. The one poem that always stuck in my mind. I remember if it's because I was just permanently late with returning library books is the one called overdue. And it goes, what do I do? What do I do? The library book is 42 years overdue. I admit that it's mine, but I can't pay the fine. Should I turn it in or hide it again? What do I do? What do I do? I remember that one too. There was also one about a kid who doesn't want to go to school and she comes up with all these ailments she has. And then she finds out it's Saturday and she's like, nevermind. I'm fine. I want to go outside and play. Because she just didn't want to go to school. I love them. I love them. I cannot go to school today, said little Mary Ann Backe. Oh, they're great. And probably like, I don't know. I mean, kind of antiquated jokes, but I don't know. Like everyone I know loved those books when we were kids. My mom wouldn't let us have them. I don't know why. Because they were too hippy? I don't know. When I went, I finally got old enough to read them on my own. I was like, I don't get it. But she was like, no. And so we're like, oh, I guess they're bad. And then I didn't look at them again. Right. Right. I think it was out of character for my mom. She didn't usually restrict reading options, right? We had all kinds of stuff. She was very liberal when it came to what we could read. But for some reason, she just didn't like shell Silverstein. And I don't know. I never did find out why. Well, I mean, some of it was odd. Some of it was like a little like, I mean, it wasn't, I don't think there were like hidden meanings for adult type thing, but some of it was just sort of like nonsensical. And that probably just confused parents. I'm thinking through me going like, if I text her right now, like, hey, mom, why don't you ever let us have shell Silverstein? She'll probably be like, what do you mean? I never let you have shell Silverstein. And I'll say, well, I remember being in a bookstore and saying, I wanted this. And you said, no. She was like, well, I probably was like just in a rush to get somewhere. And I was like, yeah, like I was having a bad day. No, we don't have time or whatever it is you're talking about. Yeah. Screw that book. And then like for like the next 20 years, you were like, oh, I guess I'm not like him. And my mom probably didn't even know what I was asking about now that I think about it. It's quite possible. Totally. It's funny because like it's one of those things that still kind of, I mean, it's still kind of clever even as an adult reading it. And so it doesn't really. It's not an adult book to the ABC's book. Well, I mean, like if you read, if you read like, you know, and Dr. Seuss as you get older, you understand like doctors, what doctors or what the books are aiming for. But like with shell Silverstein, like you can still use them. You can, you could be like an adult and have it hanging in your office. Not have not be looked at too weird. I don't know. I think of all that stuff so fondly, but I, you know, I was probably like just at the right age, like all of it was so clever to me. And I was so clever. Yeah. I will not play at tug of war. I'd rather play at hug a war where everyone hugs instead of tugs, where everyone giggles and roads on the rug, where everyone kisses and everyone grins, everyone cuddles and everyone wins. Not the way it works. That's not, that's not a life. Maybe your parents wanted to shield you from kind of fantasy world you live in. It's an anti Nixon message right there. Propaganda. I don't know. Too much. Food coloring saves lives. Drugs. Well, there was another one that I loved. Oh gosh. No, I can't think of it. It was about traffic lights. Let's see if I can find it. I remember the Monty Python one about traffic lights. How'd that go? I like traffic lights. I like traffic. It sounds a lot like I like Chinese. Except when they are green. Well, yeah, I think they probably only had one tune. I like Chinese. I found it. I found it. This is from light in the attic. When the light turns green, you go. When the light turns red, you stop. But what do you do when the light turns blue with orange and lavender spots? I don't know. There's nothing to say about that. But as a kid, you're like, oh, that'd be so funny. That'd be so funny if that happened. Yeah. Just adorable. Well, when you're a kid, you're still at the stage where you believe anything's possible. But as you get older. And you probably recently learned what red and green means. So the idea that it would be like some crazy spotted other color that would confuse traffic is like, ah, that's funny. That wouldn't happen. Would it? No. Mommy. Tom's mom is like, you know, it's not going to happen. Is he reading this book? Where'd you get this book? Told you I was not busy. You know, the more I think about it and the more out of character that was, and I haven't really thought about it closely forever, I don't think. I imagine that it was probably like we were running late to meet someone. I was like, mommy, mommy, can we, can we go? I want this book. And she was probably not even looking like, no, we don't have time. Let's go. Yeah. And for the rest of your life, you were like, my mom had something against shell. And she's probably like, what are you talking about? Right. What? Maybe he didn't write her recommendation letter or something. So she could give the school over choice. I don't know. Probably. Yes. She'll denied Tom's mother. The recommendation letter for her college application. She held a vendetta ever since. Well, folks, don't tell my mom that we talked about this. Okay. Let's just keep it. This is McTitter. Or Twitter. Twitter. Excuse me. This is McTwitter. Twitter. That's the name. I don't know if those women exist, but McTitter is really good. This is big Twitter. The babysitter. I think she's a little bit crazy. She thinks the babysitter is supposed to. This is from Shel Silverstein again. I was totally out of context. I apologize. All right. All right. Thanks everyone for watching the video. Audio folks stick around to find out what we mispronounced next.