 So this is my agenda. So don't be mistaken. I really want to make sure that we remove those bad guys and they don't contest evictions next year. This is my object and this doesn't mean only those in opposition. Even Dr. Edgar Chakwa Loom, if there is evidence that he too is dented, I don't want him on the ballot. It will even be nice here not to have you. So this is the object. This is the object and this is where I stand even as a party, our party, we want to make sure that we fight corruption. Look Zangans, there is no way we are going to have progressive and meaningful change if we will keep on having bad leadership. If we keep on having people who are corrupt. I know a lot of you have frustrated with the president Edgar Loom and his government. But and you want change. But that change shouldn't be to bring in wrong people again. How are we going to have change? We keep on repeating the same people. Today is in the ruling party. You are saying he is corrupt and so on and so forth. The following day he jumps out of the ruling party. He is attacking the ruling party. You say he is a good leader. How? How? These are the same people. Some of you in here, when I started the issue of wakamwili, right in this boardroom. Some of you were saying no, what wakamwili, but forgetting that wakamwili was in the ruling party. And the cases that I brought, that I took to court were not when wakamwili was in opposition. It was when wakamwili was in the ruling party. And today wakamwili is a convict. And yet you are saying no, this is the Messiah. How? How? How are we going to change this country? If we are going to have this mentality. Some of you say no, you favor Edgarum. Believe me, believe me, I am telling you I swear upon my living God. If Edgarum, if you have evidence against Edgarum, I will come and sit on this chair in this office and say it as it is. I will not spare you. I will not let my conscious be betrayed because he is in office if indeed there is corruption. The problem that we have is that we usually run with in windows, speculations, that's what we run with. If there is evidence, if there is evidence of President Edgarum being involved in wrong things, for me I will definitely go for him. At the moment, I don't have tangible evidence to say President Edgarum is corrupt. I don't have it. And I am saying if you have something, please bring it. But it has to be good evidence like the evidence I have here. It has to be good evidence because at the end of the day, like HH was saying, I mean if you say something that you cannot substantiate, you are in trouble. I don't want to be in trouble. I don't want to be in trouble. Yes, I have issues with President Edgarum in terms of fighting corruption. He approaches corruption with key roles. And I have a problem there. I have a problem there. There are a number of ministers that I will tell you and these are PF ministers today because you like to say no, you only attack the opposition. But some of the names I've mentioned before, they are in government, they are ministers and I've had issues with them. And my writing is on social media. That's why I write on social media because I want even when I'm long gone, people will be able to go to my page and say, this is what he's saying. So for me, I am very balanced in approaching corruption issues. When I'm talking about Mr. Hatter in the HLMA, it is out of the evidence that I have. As far as I'm concerned, Mr. Hatter in the HLMA should not, and I repeat, should not be as hard for presidency. I think it's been jailed. And why do I say that? I say this out of the evidence that I have because I've come to admit people, I've spoken to people, alive, flesh and blood, people, not at cost. They have come to complain. How Mr. Hatter in the HLMA got them out of their houses, how Mr. Hatter in the HLMA keep them out of their employment, how Mr. Hatter in the HLMA has not paid them as people who used to work for some of the companies that were privatized. At the moment, I can give you one example because I want to talk with evidence. I'll give you one example. I've got a number of cases that I've been looking at, but today I'm just going to give you some of the issues. Issues that I'm going to the Ant Corruption Commission to the police and make sure that Mr. Hatter in the HLMA is prosecuted. In my course of going round checking police evidence, it has come to my attention that Mr. Hatter in the HLMA has two analyses. This is what I've obtained and I'm giving it to the police to investigate. There is an analysis and a technique of the analysis. I want to mention these analyses. The analysis is one which is 26, 17, 86, 72, 1. And another one, 12, 88, 73, 72, 1. These analyses are all pointing to Mr. Hatter in the HLMA. I am a whistleblower in this instance and I want the police to investigate. I want the police to investigate. Me, in my investigations as I was going round looking for this, looking for that, going to the Minister of Lands, going to the Zama Development Agency and other, I've come out that there are these two institutions. And I'm confused. I'm confused. Go to Unza, the names are also not appearing. So as far as I'm concerned, I'm wondering who is Mr. Hatter in the HLMA. I am lost on his identity. Unza, if you go there, you will see different names from the names that we know him in the political circles. Analysis, I'm seeing two analyses. Two analyses and some of these and both analyses are attached to some properties. This is how I came to find out because you do a search. Mr. Hatter in the HLMA, I had so many names attached to certain properties but the analyses are different. So I'm confused. What's going on? Who is we here? Who is Mr. Hatter in the HLMA? And for me this is a point of investigation. I want the police to investigate on the identity of Mr. Hatter in the HLMA. To my fellow Zambians, just on that issue of identity, I don't know what you think. But if you have a person that cannot clearly identify himself, how can you trust such a person? Just if you have a person that cannot clearly identify himself, what are we talking about? How are we talking about? He was Hatter in the Sami HLMA at Unza. When did he drop the Sami name? What is going on? What about these two analyses I'm finding out? What's going on? I am taking this to the police and I believe I am not mad. I am not foolish. This is a very genuine case. Mr. HLMA wants to occupy that big position to be citizen number one. If you want to be citizen number one and we cannot identify you, how can that be? I don't hate Mr. Hatter in the HLMA. These are facts. I've given you the analyses numbers. Go and check them. You will find that they have the same name. Everything is pointing to Mr. Hatter in the HLMA. What's going on? I want to know. Go to Unza. You will find that if you check his computer number, the names are different. Anyway, moving on. Let me come to privatization. I have said that there are people who were deprived of their properties, who have not been paid, who were kicked out of employment in the name of privatization. Ladies and gentlemen, I am not joking. I am not being malicious. I have spoken to these people. I have seen how they are suffering. Some of them, if you see them, you would actually feel pity. There is one house. There is one house. There is one house prok namba. You take note of this. There is one house prok namba, 77, stroke A, stroke 609, on Paula Avenue in Cheston, Lusaka. This house used to belong to Zimko. It used to belong to Zimko and the occupants of that house, the tenant, the sitting tenant, at the time they were privatizing Zimko was Mr. S Jere. This Mr. Jere and just before I go, I want to show you, I have got a list. This is a list of houses which were sold by Zimko. I will distribute this document. I will distribute this document. Here there are names, not just the person that I am talking about, but all the names, all the houses which were sold. And this particular person I am talking about is actually on page 2, number 58. You will see the house number that I mentioned here, 77, stroke A, stroke 609, Paula Avenue, Cheston. And it was offered to Mr. S Jere as a sitting tenant, as a former worker of Zimko. So this, I will put it here, this is out, you look through it, it is true. And for those people, I want also to make an appeal that for those who are on this list, this list I will post it even on my page, I know there are some people who are treated in the same way like Mr. S Jere, I want them to come forward because they are my witnesses. They are my witnesses. So all those who are on this list, if you were deprived, in the same way that Mr. S Jere was deprived his house, I want you to come forward and accompany you because I am saying it was offered to Mr. S Jere. You might think that I am joking, here is an offer later. This is an offer later to Mr. S Jere, this one. It's an offer later and the name is there on the list together with others. It's actually Mr. S Jere. Paula Avenue or whatever and you see it and it was offered to this man to be bought at 19.8 million. 19.8 million, that's what was offered to him. By that time it was not the best. So 9.8 million. Mr. S Jere was given that offer and that later and he actually paid for it and I have received. He actually paid for it. He actually paid for it. He paid it through SP Mulenga, where the lawyers were appointed to be receiving money and so on and so forth. So he paid through SP Mulenga. Now, what happened thereafter? Mysteriously, mysteriously that house was bought by Mr. Aka in the Hilema at 31,000. Now how did it happen? Here is a print out from the Ministry of Lands. Here is a print out on page 2 of this. On the second page you see Mr. Aka in the Hilema there and the change of title, you know certificate being offered and at 31,000. How did Mr. Aka buy this house? How? Mr. Aka never went for Zimko. He never went for Zimko and we have an offer later to the sitting tenant and we have a receipt of this sitting tenant buying the house, paying for the house. Later on we have a house in the name of Mr. Hilema buying it at 31,000. I have checked and I have been told and found out that Mr. Nomani Imbazima Mr. Nomani Imbazima who was the core liquidator offered the house to Mr. Aka in the Hilema offered the house to Mr. Aka in the Hilema and he bought it at 31,000. Depriving depriving the sitting tenant, the former worker of Zimko How did Mr. Nomani Imbazima offer the house to Mr. Aka in the Hilema? If you check around you will find that Nomani Imbazima and H.H. they are very close people they are very close people Mr. Nomani Imbazima Nomani Imbazima from there even ended up being the deputy chairman of Angra America Angra America and Angra America is believed to be one of the strongest sponsor of Mr. Hilema and the UPND so you see the connection you see the connection these are not fiction these are real things here is a print out Mr. Hilema is there having a bought this house at 31,000 this is what he is showing and I'm wondering how come how come and these these people who have been deprived is not the only one I know there are other people there is one person Mr. Nomani Imbazima wherever he is you remember that there is a man who also wanted to be treated the same way he had to go to Rona Depenza by then because he was lucky him he was connected to Rona Depenza so he went to Rona Depenza and Rona Depenza wrote a letter a letter which I have telling Nomani Imbazima to say no don't do that he is the owner of the house giving him the house and that's how he was served otherwise his house would have also been gone this is this kind of things that we are going to allow just because we are frustrated we say no this is our messiah with this kind of background I am bringing out this and I am taking it to antcorruption commission I want the antcorruption commission to look into this because how did it happen that Mr. Hilema who was never a worker for zamko Zimko who was not a sitting tenant defriving defriving this man I want the antcorruption commission to investigate this this is one of the cases that I am taking to the antcorruption commission these printouts were taken some time back but just the other day when I went to the ministry of land to check on this house to get a printout they are dubious entries they are dubious entries on that if you go and get a printout today what you see it's not making sense so I am issuing a serious warning to those people who work at the ministry of lands because there is also too much corruption there but my wajinkapata there is too much corruption at the ministry of lands a lot of people are mysteriously losing properties from now I have a recala with your title suddenly there is another person with another title on your property how is this happening and this is a clear example that I have because a printout that is a printout from the ministry of lands that is a printout which was done some time back I go there just the other day the printout is showing something else how this is the same ministry and some details are just you think that it's a different house you know when I went there it's a same house I went to my source and said no I think you gave me a wrong whatever and you said no it's a real one it's the same property there is a lot of corruption going on at the ministry of lands and myself we want to make sure that such corruption is gotten rid of when you have a title you are supposed to feel secure to say I have a property we shouldn't have a situation where people will be influenced people with money taking advantage and just grabbing properties from citizens I can't allow that that's not why I'm in politics I'm here in politics to finish this kind of nonsense to finish this kind of nonsense anyway that is one house nafumako by the way do you know anything about it I don't know anything about it I see because I don't have anything I don't know that about making it I don't know what should be done I don't know how to say I don't know how to put it I don't know how to put it now I think it has never been a question I don't know no. 19. 24 na 19. 24 was mortgage to Lima Bank. It was mortgage to Lima Bank. Around 1989, it was a mortgage to Lima Bank. When Lima Bank was being liquidated and you remember who were the liquidators, it was Grand Central. It was Grand Central. So when Lima Bank was being privatized, this property was still under mortgage, under Lima Bank. Today as we speak, this property is owned by Mr. Haka in the Ichiden. I want to show you this is the mortgage because in Shrelanda Fianna, ten my evidence here, wakamu wiliak watu, re-sabaila-sabaila, on the corridors of the court. If we throw under number evidence, e.e. mortgage. This is the mortgage. It was under Lima Bank. Samson Tembu and Lima Bank Limited. 1989. Lima Bank got into privatization. Afterwards in 19... So there we have the evidence is there. Afterwards in 19... In 2004, this property changed into Mr. Haka in the Ichiden. And even today as I speak, it is still in Mr. Haka in the Ichiden's name. If you check, I checked on some of the documents as far as I could go to check if Mr. Haka in the Ichiden declared interest. There is nothing. And this time around when Mr. Haka in the Ichiden was changing, the property conveying this property into his name. He was actually the emerging partner of Grand Contour. How did Mr. Haka in the Ichiden ma? How did he acquire this property when he was a liquidator? I'm not giving the details. I have all the details. But I want him to respond because he said, no, I never took advantage. I want him to respond. But I'm not working in the Ichiden ma. I'm not working in the Ichiden ma. You are right. I'm not working in the Ichiden ma. I'm asking. If I found number 1924 in Kalomu, how did you acquire it when it was mortgaged to Lima Bank? Lima Bank, which you were privatizing, which you were liquidating? Which you were liquidating? Nganalanda prefa tiyo, HHH wa limu. But how? These are clear facts. I don't hate Mr. Haka in the Ichiden ma. It's not personal. It's not personal. Tatoa pitsi na kumonina hiraku isopia, benaba hirengen pisa. I don't know. So, there is nothing like it's facts speaking for themselves. Even if we go to court even if Jack Mwimbu is the judge what are they going to do with this? How are they going to exonerate? I want to see what I'm aware of. Kif Mwimba. I want to see them. I want them to see how they are going to exonerate Mr. Haka in the Ichiden ma of this. I want them to... I want to see and I'm telling you some of these things. Even if you have an emotional attachment to a person facts speak for themselves like they did Mwimba kumwimbu. He can say whatever he wants accuse a judge the magistrate of anything but at the end of the day facts speak for themselves. There is a manzim kuriwara wajtalo nara waatewa but let me not go there but facts speak for themselves and here facts are speaking for themselves. Facts are speaking for themselves. Now I'm giving you this is the document which shows now that Mr. Ichiden ma is the one that is the transfer. I'm putting it there. I know they are friends of the HHS got also some friends in the media please get this and take it away. I mean it's a fact. It's a fact. Take this to him and let him start organizing his defense because the anti-corruption commission they need to act on this. They need to act on this and I want to see the logical conclusion of these matters. These matters are very serious they want to be seen like there for everyone in our community. I'll leave it for now but I will present it before the anti-corruption commission. So I'm going to the HHS when you are going when you are summoned because they have to summon you otherwise I'm going to place a mandamus on the anti-corruption commission. If anti-corruption commission they don't act on this one I'm going to place a mandamus on them so that they can make sure they call a leader but no he is the radius opposition leader no whatever whatever a crime is a crime. A crime is a crime corruption is corruption it doesn't matter who commits it. No matter how big you are no matter how coffee you are no matter how much money you have we have got only one law and me I operate on the fact that we are all equal before the law. We are all equal before the law. So I'm going to tell our HHS don't you come or come when I come and move if you can catch a patient the fact is we are all equal before the law like GBM but you know movie but we are all equal before the law. So HHS if HHS committed crimes me I don't want to hear issue to say no he is a radius opposition we can't touch him. More people are being arrested for stealing chicken in Salaamu Ikatonu he doesn't pick a chicken from the neighbors he is arrested and is sent to jail why do you want to make excuses for the rich people why do you want to make excuses for come when you don't want to move your heart is whatever whatever even how many people are being jailed every day why should I have a heart for come when why we are all equal before the law and especially if you are in leadership you are even supposed to be more responsible than the ordinary citizens so if anything the citizens should be more should demand more responsibility on the leaders than on the poor but we are fond of excusing the rich and the basic point in fingers at each other condemning each other judging each other no HHS must go to must go to court and let the court judging let the court judging I am I want to make sure I want HHS so those who like to insult those who like to say whatever it is I don't care you can call me whatever you want you can say whatever you want it's okay what I want is to make sure that only the right people only good people I don't care I don't care I don't care that's just what it is I've also taken interest in the some hotel I have also looked at it then never last week I was busy when I couldn't fly to the same money because I wanted to go to ito the same money because I wanted to go to itopia because of the war I couldn't go so that money I wanted to use it to go to Mauritius to go and check on Mosotunia because Mosotunia it is saying that the owners of that hotel are in Mauritius therefore I have a kumanya because from where I stand I think that that company is just a fictitious company that Mosotunia belongs to Egypt and is hiding through these companies which are created in safe heavens unfortunately I couldn't go because when I tried to check on the flights and everything it's difficult to fly into Mauritius because of covid but I'm still looking around I want to make sure that I go and get one piece of evidence out there so that it also becomes part of the indictments of Mr. Haka in the Ichilem Ishimu Patilem Darawandi Shimu Patilem it's the evidence that I'm looking at and even yourself if you're objective you will see that indeed there is something wrong here I'm sure you would also want to know about these two analysis I'm sure you want to know who do I belong to, what's going on I'm sure you want to know how can we change these names I'm sure you would also not want to be deprived of the house like Mr. Mjere I'm sure you wouldn't want that these people are suffering what about this farm how is it that Mr. Ichilem is owning this farm which was under human bank which was privatizing how I'm sure these genuine questions that we should ask Mr. Ichilem in whole fairness we should ask him and if he can even be cleared by the courts even better so me Mr. Ichilem you should actually thank me you should be happy with me that I'm taking him to court because if he is innocent the courts will exonerate him he shouldn't even be threatening me why is he threatening me stop threatening me ma'am Ichilem is helping you to clean you to clean you if you are indeed clean but if you are dirty you don't belong in politics you belong to jail that's what it is that's what it is that company we need to be clear what's going on there we need to be clear Mr. Ichilem mafirewa Samba Umeishi Ichilem if you are a spirit before he comes to politics at the moment in my opinion the man no Ichilem I would have used the I know I want to respect I want to be media friendly but sure the man he is not clean and I am not going to sit back to please insisting We don't come and start saying that this is a flowy without no to stand. El Garungu is just a suspect as the hierarchy hikiwork metals. If I catch him or I catch Magic9 engodi, Are even be happy because it will make my job easier and if you say you are eliminating your friends so that you can become President. Yes, many, many things based on the kids. Based on the kids, it's okay. It is about when you have to ride and somebody now with mad dreds who do not have to compete with that person. No, this is the situation. Why do you know if mad dreds are bad? Why do you know if mad dreds are bad? Why do you know if mad dreds are bad? Why do you know if mad dreds are bad? If mad dreds are bad, but mad dreds are bad, then why do you know if mad dreds are bad? They are far because of the money they have acquired. I don't want that. They want to linger at the same level. I'm level in the playing field. This is basically what I'm doing. So, and you know, others who come up to say no in political whatever, now it's because of bill 10. I mean, come on. Me, bill 10, I am happy with it because bill 10 gives me an opportunity to put an injunction against him. If I can find him guilty in one of these with the article 52, I will manage to put an injunction against him. And I intend to do it until all these issues are cleared. Mr. Hedge will not stand. I will not allow Mr. Hedge to stand. I will make sure I put an injunction until all these matters are cleared. So, the better these cases, the area they are cleared, the better. Because I am going to put an injunction as long as these cases are still lingering, I will petition, if these cases are not complete, I will petition to make sure that Mr. Hedge doesn't stand. But Sangwa, he can also go in with eligibility. And at the end of the day we shall see how we will fall out. I think I've made my point for now. Like I have said, it's not only this which I have and a few others that I'm looking at. But for now I wanted to give you this and just one case of this. One case of this Ngaia Pita Nishpa Fita Any questions? We'll push it. We'll push it when we know something. Demias. Yes. Of the two analyses. The same name, same date of death and the like. They bear those. I don't want to to talk too much on that because you remember analyses are private. You will see what I mean. All I'm saying is that there are two analyses. I won't go further than that because I don't want to to be under any other question. That may delay a week. That is Ngaia. Wait, wait. Let's wait. Let's wait for the questions. Are you post this on social media? Do you see them? Yes. I have a question so that we have to know how we couldn't ask each other. Yes. I started. Yes. I'm tomatoes. Yes. Why? Right. My question is you've taken a very active approach. But you are dealing with the issues that happened that years ago. My question is are we seeing you taking the very energetic approach in dealing with the issues of recent corruption such as the cuts to fire tenders, the ambulances and the recent one, the COVID-19 funds which have been misappropriated. Are you going to approach these issues of corruption the same bigger that you are? My brothers and sisters my brothers and sisters in the media I will take an opportunity to make an appeal to you through that question that sometimes we are the ones that propels stories that have no have no depth. Sometimes we are the ones that run with these stories but they have no depth at all. They have no depth at all. For example, there is that rejudgment that came out and the media were covering me to say and now Niawabi has been ordered to pay and in that rejudgment you are busy writing Niawabi has been ordered to pay. Now the issues that you have spoken about I've spoken about the 42 for whatever 42 42 for if by engines you have spoken about the ambulances we can even add 42 houses 48 houses we can even add those and one by one we can talk about the 42 42 for attendance what evidence do we have what evidence do we have that chupatari can run and we say Niawabi what evidence do I have what? Where am I going to start from? Tell me the price is high Yes, the price is high but when you go and peruze through the tendas I mean even those that he competed with this they are not willing to come forward what do you do with it? because as I have been on that case by the way we even went to NRL to the anti-collapsion commission myself before the story came out the anti-collapsion commission themselves they came out to say no the tender process was followed what do I do? what do I do? then we talk about the the ambulances on the ambulances as far as I am concerned I went through that story as well you talk about 288 per unit it was much 288 per unit and if you go down to do a break down on what was bought I didn't see even the inflation but because somebody put it there 248 and everybody was talking about not each unit cost 288 it never cost 288 each unit I think was costing about 135 and if you reach out to the market it's like a normal price what do I do with that 48 houses the owner is there this case is in court this case is in court the owner is there to say these are my houses and I built them through the money that was sent from I don't know that guy he even came in the country he even came in the country to to push for his houses the lawyer that he was using was that old dekawe he even went and saw old dekawe just that I don't know how old dekawe is late but I know who is handling the case but these are the facts so what do I do with that so even when you are accusing me you are not zealously when it comes to some of these matters what is there to follow and I appeal to you the media that please let us follow stories that are okay some of these stories next question no wait a minute I see you are very anxious to send me to do this and that I hope you can also put in some resources and you also must remember that you are also a journalist to also follow this issue because you want to put everything when you look at that I am doing my bit, why are you doing anyway just a clarification I know you mentioned that it's not about piyo chen but the general feeling from your position is that with the form piyo chen which the opposition are claiming that the piyo wanted to use to that but advantage now that it goes through the general feeling from your position they are trying to use you to derail edge things are you being funded by the piyo no first are you being funded absolutely not I mean what I was struggling around but anyway each you are built in each you are built in it is a political political what is on the panel built in is not going to help the fall of built in has not helped the upnb for example they were saying no the fall of built in citizens were celebrating did you see citizens celebrating in the streets it was only hada in the hlma with these lawyers who were celebrating na ma angri lion na ma angri lion na fukasens only them I never saw anyone outside celebrating so that issue of saying built in has put the upnb in an advantage position I mean it is not here no there there is nothing even you are pfnavena they are just the I don't know built in has no consequence because it has no consequence a lot of people did not even understand built in I saw one of these celebrities who wants to become a politician she was asked about built in and she was just all over the place and I mean I don't think there are a lot of us who can articulate what built in was all about so built in really has very little consequence in terms of politics hada in the hlma I wouldn't even be bothered about built in I wouldn't even be bothered because it's only him and a few of his MPs and by the way not all his MPs agreed with him and that's why he locked them up if hada in the hlma confidence in his MPs that his MPs did not agree with built in he would have allowed them to go to parliament why did he lock them up he put them in under the bank why is he so cold under oh sorry are you funded by the that is my question let me answer you my brother I wish they can fund me I wish they can fund me it would help me it would help me seriously speaking I wish they can fund me because if they fund me I would not be struggling with resources I'm telling you to do these investigations and so on and so forth there is also a cost so if they can fund me and at the end of the day I also clobber them why not let me present Michael Sartaj taking this channel to court in the case of Michael Sartaj and the presiding judge then to find mischief for a scam as undesirable element which must be removed and to allow it to grow and it takes long it becomes difficult to remove it it affects everybody now the issue we are having here is like a scam or a mischief which should have been removed long time ago now based on that procurement those who had the information in their hand the question is what is the interest to bring now when this particular thing has even expired because they happened in Zambia where those who are bringing the evidence now had this particular knowledge in the research I can summarize your question to say why are we bringing these issues now things which happened a long time why are we bringing them now yes fine you can extend it like that but for me I would say it is the work of God it was waiting for jupuneri it was waiting for me to come so that is I can sort out all these guys and become president you refused funding from yes for the sake of transparency you were about to fly outside the country for investigation for the sake of transparency which you are preaching who is funding I am running a business right here just like demon you are I am running a business right here I am running a consultant bring a business card give them give them a business card I am running a business and I go to consultants and in my consultants especially at this point in time I am helping a lot of people to collect their debts and some people like one client I know is being owed 1.2 if that money is paid 1.2 I get 7% commission how much is that for some of you the commission I make money easily easily yes you said the cost was 9.8 19.8 million 19.8 million is that the old currency rebest and then rebest nani rebest is that the old currency rebest rebest rebest I am a businessman Musaende nani rebest muka ya check nga na kumakura muka ya check nama taxes muka check muka check muka check no 1 miliyon Ya, 1 miliyon and just to say a little bit the excuse that these people started giving when I'm a zima they started saying that he offered more you see that is what they are saying because he offered more but the role at that point of the privatization the first priority was the sitting tenant and that is which have given you they have even given the evaluations so even it doesn't hold it doesn't hold but keeping them back they will find it difficult to defend this case because the evaluation says something else how did he pay 31 thousand why when was that I think that was 19 words you checking the print out the jet is there my question is on 12th number 1994 you sent it in 7th December just sitting yes 1997-1998 yes and who are you grandfather he is a haka in the itilian mass he is a haka in the itilian mass one here is the thing haka in the itilian let it finish so between 1997 and that's how many years 7 months we are not going through trial you ask the question ask the question yes so after that is a very nice thought please join the defense of Mr. Aka in the itilian mass we will answer in court no I am telling you that is a nice thought I have all the evidence of course I mean I don't have to start giving this one by one why where do you think I'm getting this information if they are not coming forward so they are coming forward through you they are coming forward just because I'm a public lawyer my friend anyway I think we are let me take one last move have you spoken to Mr. Jair and the other question is you are visiting Mr. H.A a lot of people described it as you are kind of scared of him and you don't want to go to Mr. President listen a lot of people talk about that encounter with Mr. H.A when I went to Mr. H.A who stood up where I was sitting to go where I was sitting and when I reached it there Mr. President may have an opportunity to greet you and he stood up to say are you genuine greeting me we didn't even finish the greeting the man launched into emotional attacks on me why do you write about me did you want me also to start shouting on top of my voice where I come from we respect the orders I just respected him I couldn't also start shouting back at him he is not to fear you he is not to fear you how come I have evidence if I have not spoken to them sorry the problem the problem my transmission Mr. Sam Mr. Sam when are you how can I change tell me what went down guys thank you very much this is what I have and I am strongly I am strongly confident that this is the case that should be prosecuted and I am going to court and go through the anti corruption commision through the police and at the often time I want to face Mr. Akaide HNMA in court over these issues. I mean business. Thank you very much.