 Joining us. Oh, man, you're on we're rolling Eddie Pepitone my muse my beloved Eddie my beloved Eddie. How are you, sir? Hi David. How are you buddy? You're at that. We miss you over here on the West Coast Thank you. We need we need some we need some in we need some people who read over here There's not many readers as you know on the West Coast. Mm-hmm and most of them are writing most of them are writing for television Yeah So what's going on with the writer strike by the way, do we want to talk about that at all? I will talk about the writer strike anything to shut Hollywood down is a good thing anything that just stops TV is a good thing. Yeah It probably is right Well the country is completely effed Eddie Pepitone. I know that you voted for Trump I know you have this act where you're Disinshing, I just wanted to I wanted to shake things up How about the people who say that like I voted for Trump just to shake things up Oh, you mean you can mean to open up public lands for exploration Mark Marin I heard Mark Marin. I'm a regular at the comedy store now. Not to brag, but I heard Marin saying on stage So it looks like hunting and zoos will be legal soon Oh So tell me what you've been up to have you been traveling well, we'll talk about politics in a second It's been a while last time you did the show you were Calling pretend Trump supporters. So tell me tell me some good news. Let's start with some good news Tell me good news. I want five good things five good things. Oh, you know for me, that's hard My my wife's car started up right away today, and we were afraid of wooden that's number one good Basil and Charlotte are very well They run after squirrels It's just a beautiful thing that we have a nice green Big park here that also serves as a homeless encampment, but the park itself You know, you can't look any public space in the United States now is teaming with homeless people because of You know the Deindustrialized nightmare that the United States has come because become because corporations are allowed By the way, this is funny that this is a this is on my list of good things I can't help but getting getting into it But yeah, absolutely right. There's an article by an MIT professor. He has a new book out. No, I'm Trump. See no new And I want to get him on the show. He has a new book at 80 percent of Americans are in debt and are Suffering from job insecurity. He said that fits the model for a third world nation when a when 80 percent of a Population are racking up debt and they're experiencing job insecurity and fear. It is what it's the model for a third world nation So on well, we know that that's the case That it is true. It really is it really is very starkly very starkly It's haves and have nots and it's it's gotten scary scary are which I didn't think was possible with this administration and just the the absolute disregard for people in debt and you know on the on the edge and all that stuff It's it's just what how about you are you scared? I mean the other three things that are going well for me is that I I I'm a paid regular at the comedy store and I've been doing a ton of sex And I was always scared to do the comedy stories always kind of intimidated by Adam now He's Adam. You're right. You're right Adam. He get is just a doll and He's changed the vibe there. It's a real happening place. So every night. I've been performing in front of a huge crowds huge and Haven't you know really growing as a stand-up. That's correct And then I've been I've been working three times a week with a personal trainer But the funny thing about that is that my cholesterol It's good, but not great and he tells me this is I've been working three times a week with a personal trainer For almost a year and I just had a physical for the first time in about it You know a year or whatever and he said you have to die in an extra So I don't know what the hell I'm doing wrong with that Yeah, the comedy store that's great news. I did the comedy store. I could not pass Mitzi She wouldn't pass me so she wouldn't pass me either. Yeah, so I just I just she there. Who was that and You what happened to me Anyway, I don't want to talk about me anyway, but I was back there and Adam is like the great. You know, he's taking Yeah, go look at Norm McDonald's YouTube television show Adam is his sidekick on it. They don't make them anymore. I know I know he would read Jokes to norm. There's one episode with super Dave That might be one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life, right Adam reading these horrible jokes It's a super Dave and super Dave is just yelling. So that's great news. That's great. Yeah the comedy. Yes It's good for me. Yeah, I've been traveling a little I'm going to I'm going to Atlanta in June to film I'm a regular on this Adult swim show called your pretty face is going to hell with Craig. We're coming a new season Yes, your buddy Craig. Well, and he's a big part of that show Henry Zabrowski, Matt Servito who was a regular on this, I don't know, as a DA agent who used to chase Tony real funny guy real nice guy. Anyway, so I'm going Atlanta and Last time I was in Atlanta from my hotel balcony There was a huge protest trying to get on to interstate. I think it's interstate 80 out there And right from my balcony, I saw this standoff between protesters and the cops It was it was the time last summer when It was all about the cops shooting people and stuff like that. I was in the middle of that in Atlanta From my balcony, that's better than spank a vision Who needs to rent porn when you can watch protesters and cops in Atlanta of all places But let's discuss what's going on in the world because in the past you've come on the show and Complained about how bad things are and I've always agreed with you But I kept it to myself and I would say but Eddie we need to be positive We need to be upbeat. We can't let our listeners wallow in self pity We need so what do we do? We got to three three good things in your life. You're your wife's car turned over You have two dogs who chase squirrels and you're performing at the comedy store Okay, maybe but we'll get to five. I say unto you Eddie It's so bad Out there in this country in America. It is so bad. It is so bad Why are you saying that is this just personal, you know Personal experience. Are you are you reading and watching? particular news reports I Have both I am telling people things are bad and they're saying to me you're letting your demons get ahold of you You have entered. I don't have inner demons. It sucks How how life be good when 80% of us are terrified when you have this you know President and and people go but he doesn't affect He does the whole mood of the country is shaped by what's happening in Washington DC You can turn off the news and not pay attention But it filters down because it's filtering up Trump is there because it filtered up Not it's not filtering down We ended up with Trump because the disease filtered up and put him into into office and everybody is well And it's a lie the whole country is a lie Everybody's life in America is a lie Well, you know what my guru is it's Chris had you that he puts it the way he puts the lie is that People retreat they retreat into fantasy when their reality is Too difficult to deal with and I think that is the lie. You're talking about people are pretending That things are fine. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm I'm really way too into my dog's chasing squirrels for instance And you and you love squirrels then she like almost beat a guy up because he was Throwing rocks. Well, I never yeah I mean, I I am a squirrel protector which is similar to a water protector except its squirrels and not water and There's a few of us in the park who protect squirrels. Now. Where are you now? I'm in North Hollywood. I'm saying where are you? I hear like a plate or do what do I hear in the background? Wow, that was one of your that's one of your superpowers is hearing Spooned hit a porcelain bowl my wife's eating cereal across from me. Oh, I see All right, let's go over very good. Very good. Very good hearing. Let's go. Yeah, everything everything is bad Trump is a manifestation By the way, Trump didn't come from No Trump didn't come out of the blue Trump came as a progression And I don't know if we've talked it we've talked about this But I don't think you completely agree with me and Trump is a progression of the corporate coup d'etat That has happened in this country and the Democrats and I think me and you have had a little bit of disagreement on this The Democrats the the corporate Democrats I call them and has just called them, you know they sold this out the Democratic Party sold this out and Since the Democratic Party stopped representing the working man and woman and the middle class You got Trump because you know the quote-unquote the pluribals Were taken in by his hucksterism because they they lost faith in the Democratic Party I don't know if you agree with me or edges, but that's what he says. They sold this out I mean everybody talks about how you know, I mean Obama was a very civil guy But I think as Jimmy door puts it he was like a very nice elegant good-looking face on corporate war and corporate evil And and now we have the ugly face Absolutely, I I do love Obama because I Have to believe in right and wrong and they give me two options Republican and Democrat and I go okay Democrats are right Republicans are wrong when in fact they're both wrong Yeah, we need I mean to me David. I mean do you see this coming? I think I I mean this is scary to me But I think it needs to be done. There's there's got to be massive On rest here soon when 80% of the population is in terror. Don't you think? No, I don't I think that it's a subtle terror We police ourselves when your Terrorized it's mostly We we we do it to ourselves we blame ourselves because we pick up the newspaper and read about The wealthy and we're obsessed with the wealthy and we buy into the lie that they deserve to be wealthy and that they're happy Because they're wealthy No, I don't think there's gonna be massive unrest because we're a police state That's not a good thing that we're a police state, but why why haven't the African-Americans who? You know the African-Americans are saying to me Hey, welcome. How does it feel? Oh? Yeah, yeah, and why haven't African-Americans? rose up Because because of the massive military force, right? We live in a police state if you're black We live in a police state if you're black in America. We live in a police state fact, right? It is a fact it is a fact it is a fact if you're black. No doubt. This is a police state for black men Yep, and because it isn't now it Yeah, go ahead No, I was just gonna say and now you know people African-Americans are telling you welcome welcome to their world right because it's now extended to you know Everybody in poverty So there won't be a mass uprising It'll be a whimper We it's over. Well, how will things it's over? Yeah The country's over Eddie Yeah, the fact of a great when when people say to you how do you think it's gonna end? It's over get up get up. You can leave now. There's a new show about to start, but it's over. Look who's in the White House It's over. Yeah, why yeah, why can't you know the problem with America is we never admit Defeat we've never lost a war. We can't even say we lost in Iraq. We can't even say we lost Vietnam We lost and guess what understand guess what folks look who's president. It's over It's over except defeat It's over Now what right now what what is that's what I'm that's what I'm asking I say massive unrest you say no Well, so what happens? I'm creating an app for Americans to pick a new government It's like it's a tinder app where you swipe left if you want to reject fascism swipe left Democratic Republic swipe right It's we have to do we have to start all over again. It's over And yes, well, so a piece so so we need like big grassroots political stuff on Well, I rather hear your opinion, but I will say this I pissed off a lot of people when I said that the end to Reconstruction was the worst thing that ever happened to this country because the civil war We defeated the south we burnt Atlanta to the ground and Right, we freed the blacks and there were more black senators and congressmen representing the south Then at any time in American history, especially now, but then there was this unholy deal that we made To get Rutherford B. Hayes into the White House and the deal was We'll give you Rutherford B. Hayes, but you have to put an end to reconstruction. So they ended reconstruction now Reconstruction was explained reconstruction to me again they take hair from the back of my head and they plant it on The top where the hair is missing and then you wait a couple of months and it grows and it's it's your hair and The technology now is nobody can really tell so that's Reconstruction was rebuilding the south in our image The same way we built Germany and Japan in our image Germany and Japan Were the victims of total war after World War two we mowed them down. I'm not bragging I'm not getting a wreck. Well, some I erect but America won Russia won Britain won that war and we said to Japan we said to Germany say uncle Sam Say uncle say uncle Sam and they said uncle Sam and we stopped bombing them And they admitted defeat it was over everything they stood for was wrong Germany everything you valued is gone. We're rebuilding you in our image. We're god Japan will let you keep Hirohito, but we're rebuilding you in our image And we did and they surpassed us If they are the American dream is alive and well in Germany and japan because they have The values of the greatest generation Even in japan. I I thought there I know germany's kind of at the forefront of the economy, right? Well japan Yes, but japan they have a social safety net. Yeah Oh, they do sure and they're going through a quote-unquote recession We should only have the type of recession they have in japan Well, I mean, you know Europe though is also Right, Europe is also going undergoing economic and you know strains of fascism as well, right brexit The french election. I mean the far right is all over europe. Isn't it popularly? Yeah, but are they winning? I don't I don't really think so no Right no But over here The far what's going to be over here? What's going to be over here? I don't know. I I uh, it's a whimper it ended with a whimper Not with a bang Anybody who is Looking at us from afar would say It's over, but there's value to it being over if we could admit it's over Right, then we can rebuild what are you saying? What are you saying is over by the way specifically democracy? I'm in a bad mood today. Yes. I'm saying the republic is over today. I feel that Yeah, I what triggered what triggered it that the hair that reconstructive hair. I think it's it's it's like divorce. It's like a marriage The person who wants the divorce knows that it's over The person who doesn't want the divorce doesn't have a clue That it's over and I think america is a 50 year old man whose wife Has decided It's over and she has this plan To get out she has an exit strategy and the husband is completely oblivious to the plan and doesn't know that the marriage ended When obama got elected He thought things were getting better Yeah, but when obama got elected she had a plan Here pay attention to this constitutional lawyer But it was over back then if i'm following the metaphor right she Is the corporate state? Yes, exactly. Yes. Yeah Yeah, right Yeah, yeah, well let's go over the news. I don't know What do you think What do you think of kelly rippa picking ryan sea crest to be the co-host? I'm being serious The co-host of what live with kelly. She was doing it the sister is doing it by herself for about a year How do you stay up on that by the way? How do you stay up on that because it's important eddie. It's important Do you think ryan's even do it in a well, I think ryan's secret Not only is he beautiful bone structure wise, you know, and I think me and you discussed that many times late in the evening But uh, you know, he's he's he's charming Um, i'm pretty sure ryan's secrets chase the squirrels But feeds them He chases them. No, I don't even I hate to tell you I I that you know what you're talking about is is is funny and sad, which is that americans Distract themselves and it's part of this, you know The the corporate state is there's never a better time like everybody's talking about the whole country There's an you know, there's uh an eco genocide happening There's there's everybody in debt and people are talking about the great production values on game of thrones Right the rape and pillage the rape and pillage on game of thrones And the incredible beautiful look of the show. I swear to god people are more interested And this is what I mean about people retreating into fantasy hollywood Is a factory of shit Okay, you're you're just there is hardly I want to talk to about the issues What about what about ellen de generis? And drew barry more. Do you think because as you know, what's going on? What you're really up on this stuff? What are you talking about the ellen runs a show called first dates And drew barry more does the voiceovers drew Yeah, it's a it's a great show on television and Portia del Rossi is jealous that ellen is spending more time What do you What are you laughing at? Do you think um, do you think ellen's marriage is in trouble? Do you think she and portia are going to break up? He drew barry more I think she's playing Ellen the same way the other one did. What was her name who created her own language? I forgot her name Uh, who created her own language. Was that was that a leaky when he or dian foresee was an anti-ant foresee Oh, oh dian foresee and the girl is oh and a hash Remember an language. Oh, yeah, didn't she have a nervous breakdown? Yeah, but but that was what she She pretended she was a lesbian and tricked ellen And now drew more drew barry more is trying to break up the marriage Between ellen and Portia del Rossi. Do you think drew barry more is is really a lesbian? I mean, she's been married before is she pulling an anhish? Yes or no Oh, wow, this is really difficult because you know, this is right up there with uh The u.s. Having the largest prison population in the world It is Because what you're saying and I understand what you're saying is that ellen and Portia Are trapped yeah in a relationship that resembles a woman's prison I didn't even know i'm really glad we spoke because I didn't know that ellen's marriage was in trouble Uh, but now that I do I am going to put down this gnome chomsky book who lose the world And and go online and look at this marriage disintegrating. What is ellen doing? Like how is ellen handling it who seems to be have the upper hand Um, I mean that's really kind of that crux of it is ellen okay. That's always my first thought I don't know an intending writer strike. I heard she was so good to the writers The first the first time around um I hope she has a solid You know Uh-huh a solid family life going on. You don't know what's happening. I don't know. I don't know what's going on You brought it up. I I heard that she's been dating ellen page from juno Or that no, I'm sorry. I think juno. I think no, I don't know. I made a mistake Drew Barrymore has been dating ellen page from juno According to my sources. I didn't know true. So drew Barrymore is by is that what you're saying? I don't know. It's just very confusing. Well, you keep you keep calling out information And then saying I don't know. So what's going on? Is this fake news? You're calling at me. What are you doing? No, I would never you're trying to get me involved in these hollywood celebrities What are they calling them tether tether Uh, you know the affairs of the rich and famed. Do you remember robin leech? By the way, you were robin leech champagne wishes and caviar dreams How how obscene how obscene does that seem now? With the way the country With the way the country now. It's like in the white house. Welcome to the white house What that's mar delago or wherever trump has his Welcome to the white house. There is no more visitus long God robin leech, where is he now? Has he taken his life? No, uh, we try to actually hire him for something and He wanted to do it, but it was too anti trump and apparently are you serious? Yeah. Are you serious? Yeah, he wanted To do it, but then he saw that it was going to be anti trump and I guess he's still Thinks trump can butter his bottom But you see i'm old enough no the the listeners don't know who robin leech was but he Created the show called lifestyles of the rich and famous when it first came out It was an obscenity because reagan had just taken office and the idea of celebrating Wealth in america Was so alien to us now look at it now Where it is a complete country divided into winners and losers Right. It's just winners and losers and You know this whole thing about equating success with material wealth and you know, it's it's really sick. It's really sick And it started under reagan Yeah, yeah, he started dismantling everything the unions the air traffic controllers um You know he started And by the way, the i'm a member of the riders guild and i'm all for the strike. What's going on Yeah, what's going on with that? Well, what's going on is I think the riders guild is Perfect and I love the riders guild However We're not Factory workers the people shutting down the town Are the owners the riders that's right the riders. I'm not I'm not But the the the people Who write television not movies, but the people who write television Are the owners They own the shows so you would have I mean the last strike in television you had Guys like Aaron sorkin Striking against themselves Oh, really? They own the shows the riders own the shows They were striking. Well, how do you strike out of your strike against yourself? That obviously isn't completely true. They didn't want to spring for lawyers But they're they're all negotiating these massive deals for themselves And then they use they they use the union as a cudgel But as in any union the only people who benefit from a strike Of the top 1% The rank and file the rank and file are just Marching At a solidarity, but the guys who run the strike are marching because They want their piece of the pie I say I'd like to big show runners the big creators. Yeah. Yeah of tv Yeah, so what they do is it's a lot like war. They'll feed me Religion, right? I'm fed religion and solidarity and we're all in this together Right, I'll go. Okay d-day. I'll go. I'll yeah I'll storm the beach. Yeah, because it's for the greater good The guy laying back in Dover with the binoculars Stands to make A billion dollars I say, uh That's why Will the world ever change? No No It won't Did I depress you? No, no, I was You know, I'm deep into that deep into depression I now I now just explored depression as Lewis and Clark once explored this great land Oh I I uh, oh my god, I'm starting what triggers your job. I'll tell you what what triggers a depression for you Well, I try to say but for me I my depression takes the form of anxiety. Are you like that? Like I don't get real like Like well, I've had some dark I don't know about where your depression goes to but I have had a couple of Times in my life where you know, there's that heaviness and you know, you don't want to move um, but mine sort of takes the uh, the uh The form of being anxious and so you know, I try to combat that with um I have a you know, I have a very large I'm quilting Ellen Right now like I have a quilt and it's Ellen dancing and It just says and the bottom of it says get up and dance and don't worry Don't worry about you know the 80 percent The 99 But uh, yeah, I I I get kind of anxious. I don't I'm not sure what triggers. I think money. I think money status Am I doing? You know, am I being left behind? by you know the world um You know, I think that I I think you know Uh, I think a big thing in today's world is you have to feel community with people Because the times are very tough and if you're not connected to a community. I think you know that isolation Right can be very uh, disturbing Right Absolutely, you agree. Yeah, and I think I'm isolated and I find it depressing Yes, it is and I'm just laughing because of it. I think I'm isolated. It's a very funny sense. You can step back from it Well, I can live my life under the illusion That I'm around people because you know I'll go out and do stand-up tonight and I'm I'll be around lots of people tonight Right, but I'm isolated Yeah, it's interesting that you can be isolated. Yeah, it's interesting to be isolated within and I think people You know, that's part of the strategy. I don't know if it's a conscious strategy, but that's part of kind of the technological Uh, you know development of of you know Of the land, you know, like the the the technology has isolated us. I think you know the The computers, you know the phones the the laptops the tv It kind of makes everybody a little insular and then the world that seemed to get you know You know people believe that it's a dangerous place. They don't want to leave. They don't want to you know, explore You know what I mean? I don't want to go in They don't want to go into dark alleys. Yesterday me and my wife walked the two dogs in the dark alley and It was liberating It was a little dangerous, but You know, we we came out to tell the tale with the dog with the dogs. Okay. Were they scared? Well, they're the ones who bring us there. We have a little dog basil who just loves I don't we don't know what this is, but he loves little alleys We think he's trying to kill us Um, he just he just he's so small if you've seen by the least so small and cute yet, he's always like Like Bringing a little buffet. He's always bringing us into these Like, uh, god's forsaken places, you know, he's like jimmy in the in goodfellas Sank to lorraine brocco. Yeah, go in there. Go the coats are in there. Just walk in there Ah Yes, yes What we've managed to escape his his plot so far. We I don't know we think he's got He's just got our bank account information. He's waiting for us to encourage you. Do you let Jimmy from the goodfellas movie do you let him lead you when you walk? Do you thought you just let him Yeah, we do we do because we see the state of affairs And we know the future we know the future is bleak so if it ends it ends. I mean that is one good thing about Uh, you know knowing that, uh The future is You know as you you know, you just go into more and more danger and you know, hope that the pain will soon be ceased It is it must be interesting to let a dog In all seriousness let the sense because they're following a scent. That's right They're following a scent. Yeah, and Do basil and charlotte agree on the scent that it must be followed No, that is a difficulty and we let basil uh determine the path because uh, charlotte is more malleable. Whereas basil You know, he once he gets his mind set on something We're me and my wife are actually thinking of writing. I mean we have to get to it But we're thinking of writing a an animated show with basil when we call it hunting bin laden's dog Because of the way The way basil walks on the street is hilarious. We think it would be so funny to film him Walking and he's just hearing from a commander. He's got a little earpiece In his ear and it's like basil basil. You must Uh, you must go straight ahead bin laden's dog. We have it You know from our gps unit an aerial photography in the yard to your right And then basil just like will sit down under a tree basil. What are you doing? It's like no, I'm just taking it right now. I just want to I want to rest But bin laden's dog and it's it's very funny. Anyway, this is how we Is what kind of dog is hired? What kind of dog is basil? He is we had a dna test run on him and he killed nicole simpson and they freed oj He turned out to kill nicole simpson with the dna. Yeah, no, he's what is he honey? He's a lapse chihuahua Lapsa opso and a and a norwich terrier He's a lapsed apso. It's like a lapsed cat You know, that is a funny thing by the way when I'm working out and my trainer has no clue That uh, we are you know, he's one of these guys who says all you have to do is think positively About life and I point out that the oceans are rising and he goes don't you have to think positively and I I point out that 80 people 80 percent of people are in terror in debt And he says you have to think positively you have to see a golden ball of light And you know and I I then point out that we have the Largest prison population in the world in it, you know, we live in a police state and you know What is net what has happened to the african-american happen happening to a white middle class and low white middle class people And he says please think positively and let you know, so it's a weird relationship. I have with the guard I Think of it as positive we're we're number one in anal rape, right? More people behind bars. We're the leading Country when it comes to anal rape Here's the thing. I know you have to go. I know you have to go. Yeah And do you do you carry the escape hammer? Remember when for your birthday when you turned 40? I bought you an emergency blanket And an escape hammer Do you carry the escape hammer with you at all times it it'll break any type of window or glass Well, have you thought about that? You know, uh Well, you don't think there's gonna be unrest. Do you think it'll just be a general rounding up Quietly rounding up. No, I think we've already been rounded up. I think yeah, we're our own prisoners You're right my dinner with andre. Did you ever see my dinner with andre? I did and that's uh, he says we're the jailers and the ward Yes, and I think That's pretty much. Yeah, I am the uh, I am the my dinner with andre action figures By the way, that isn't my joke that was in uh, christopher gas Waiting for guffman at the end they did they did all this really funny like little one-off Things that my dinner with andre action figures were hilarious My dinner with andre ruined me because it came out I think like in the mid to early 80s and I thought yeah, this is what a movie should be just two guys talking But I loved it. I loved me too. I loved it. It was just like you like you We both love which you know, the buddha say is not great We both love to like engage our minds and like chi won philosophical questions whereas the buddha Uh, and the religious people the spiritual people say we have to we have to um divorce ourselves from mind and ego Let that go And uh, you know kind of being taken into the womb. Maybe that's what my trainer means just let go Of uh oldest talk about how horrible. Maybe this is how we'll we'll find this up today instead of You know talking about you know the outer reality Of you know the country, you know having as you put it we've lost already Maybe um our inner reality Can be different even if we're You know Not doing well Outer wise. What do you think of that? I I I think that's uh true And I I think the lesson that i'm taking away from this conversation Is we are communal animals. We need to be around other living things and I find listening to you that The danger of people being around people this addiction to people is very isolating That the more time I spend, you know when i'm facedown in another human being It's taking me away From what's really important in life So I need to do a a detox a human detox And stop being around people because that's the real poison More time on the phone More time Dealing with you. Oh, I don't I don't know. I don't know if you're getting getting the lesson right, but I love you eddie. I miss I love you too, buddy. You come into new york I don't know. I don't have anything booked in new york Hey, we did a live show. We did a live taping of the podcast last year. Oh, you did who do the job Who'd you have on it? We didn't do we had uh shon donnelly angela cob and pat dixon we did it out of qed And I qed out in queen. Yes, and we didn't do it old school eddie We remember because you Were the reason I first started doing live Podcasts was it was it was it the live one I did in the apartment there No, it was kind of like that. It was just me talking to people I would but if you ever come back Right, I miss Those big production numbers that we used to do. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, I can't believe I can't believe uh, that was the genesis of your podcast with you writing And rosin child speed rosin file. I don't know where he is. Do you know where rosin child is? I don't know and jimmerall. Those were some of the funniest things And you know what they're just sitting On the website People can find them They're just you have to oh man. They were saying but you just have to they weren't saying they were so Let's before you go. Tell me about gary. Shapiro wasn't he oh Yeah, sweetheart of a guy very funny and Uh died suddenly a couple days ago just kind of a shocking thing Um, what were your what were your memories? He was a perfect human being he was a rabbi Yeah, he was a comedian A songwriter a songwriter a comedy writer and a musician There wasn't anybody on the planet who had a bad word to say back gary. Shapiro. That's very true It's a beauty. You and I you and I yeah, well, I have issues with everyone No, he was by the way. Oh, yeah, he's sweetheart, right? Yeah. Yeah All right, by the way, also we lost we lost don rickles Yeah Yeah, and I know you're a fan of him, right? I love don rickles I Love I mean he he lived he lived a nice long life So we just you know me and Karen went and so we saw Bob Newhart in the labyrinth at theater We had to go south on the five to see Bob Newhart And I thought he was gonna look terrible or just be kind of wheeled out and the guy Looks great and was sharp as a tack. I think he's 90 Good amazing. Good. Yeah Yeah, all right. All right. I love you, buddy. Eddie Pepitone. We got to do this more often Yep. All right, Dave. Give my love to Karen. Give my love to charlotte, but not basil Okay, bye