 You and Mo3, I see you wearing the Mo3 necklace and I know that mean a lot to you. Like how old were you when you first met Mo3? She probably was. What? Yes. For real? First cousin? Yeah, he is not first, but we cousins though, like. Wow. His momma is like, that's like my momma. Nicole's like my momma. When did you know that he was talented, that he was different? Just cut out the phone, bubba dead and gone, can't believe it, it's real. Nah, looking at the phone, wishing I was home in New York City getting deals. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we gon' talk. It's hard, man. You ain't just seen it, man. Who was that on that Mo3 on your neck? That's hard, man. I ain't seen that one. I ain't seen the necklace like that. Yeah, yeah. That's hard, man. I didn't know that was those, about 13, 14 years old. Wow. I'm gonna be 27. I'm gonna be 27. Yeah, that's where it start going with that. You young, man. I'm old, nigga, you better be enjoying that. Yeah, right. You enjoy that 27. Right. It gon' pass by fast. Whew. Let's talk about it. So were you raised with your momma and dad in the same household? Oh, now my daddy, I was been locked up. My momma, she kinda look younger than him, but now my momma and my granny. And too, like when I moved out there, that's when my momma started. She had, she was on her own stuff then, you know. How old was your momma when she had you? Oh, I think about 17. Oh, okay. And you say your daddy always been locked up? Nah, let me see, I'm 26. He probably been locked up like, like probably 16 years, though. So how old were you? How old were you when he first went? It's a picture, so I think when I first about, a little bit after I came out, I think he was locked up and then went for like, three, four years at that time I came out. So do you remember any time spending time with him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Every time he got out, my dad, man, I don't want to, everything in the world. I don't want to see world, all type of, I don't have everything. So you have memories with him? He took care of us, dude. Oh, okay, okay. I got one of them pops. Oh, okay. He always made sure he did what he's supposed to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it wasn't just like probably, let me say, let me say this, probably 14 years and it was like probably three and then out for three and then in for five, you know. But as a kid, which one meant more to you? Did it mean more to you that he's sending the money for y'all to go see world and do all this other stuff? Or for him being? Right, every time we got out, like we did stuff like that as soon as he got out. Oh, as soon as he got out, he took you. Yeah, but probably why he was locked up, he was still mine and stuff and shit like. Yeah, yeah, that's good though. I have one of them, you know. Yeah. Was he and your mama still together? Even though she wasn't holding him down? I don't know, they probably never was together. They're stories from, you know, hearing about my daddy, he was up, you know, he was up there though. Oh, okay. I gotta, I gotta, we gotta get into it, man. Like you and Mo3, how old was you when you, I see you wearing the Mo3 necklace and I know that mean a lot to you. Like how old were you when you first met Mo3? She probably won't. What? Yes. For real? Yeah, he is not first, but we cousins though, like. Wow. His mama is like, that's like my mama. Nicole is like my mama. When did you know that he was talented, that he was different? Shit. I don't know, probably when we was little, he always could sing and rap. That's what Kogati said, same thing. He always could. I'm a brother too. Like three, four? Yeah, probably soon as you can, I can realize, yeah, yeah, damn. Who was older, you older than him? Nah, I'm 26. Nah, he younger than both of them. Okay, okay. I'm 26, 331. Yeah. Okay, okay. So you basically seen, you just, you seen him just basically, you seen him and you like, man, he just do different. Yeah, like man, like, with everything, like he was bad, I was just hung out with like older people too, probably because of him. You know, they moved to Dallas way before me too. You know, I'm, he got me by five years and they went out there since he was like 13. Do you think that when he came to Dallas, he went through a lot. You know, they, I heard about him. I was still, yeah. He was sleeping on the, in front of apartments and all kinds of stuff. So I'm still gonna find my way to, you know, her has every, you know, soon I'm gonna get changed. I think it will. So my mama ended up moving out there too. I wanna say like Kogati was saying, you know, he will be getting into, you know, he get out and gonna be on the run or do, you know, anything, you know, he just. Yeah, that nigga ran away, he was bad. He was bad. That nigga too. That nigga was flipping and so big fat nigga flipping. You heard it? Yeah, he wasn't always fat though. No, but he was flipping wasn't it? I remember that first video, he wasn't fat. Man, that nigga probably can flip out the table. He's like to flip. For real. Did you used to do stuff like that too? Yeah, I flipped too, but not like not off the table. Not like him. Not like him. Yeah. He was always the best. Everything. He inspired you a lot? With his age, yeah, yeah, man, like everywhere he went, I went, like everybody to you. Like, like if I'm out of jail these last, you know, couple of years and shit, I'm right there. Like ever since I was little, I was right there with him. What was it about him that inspired you, that made you wanna follow him? Cause probably cause he was always a little, you know, like he, he always stood out, you know. For sure. Like I always had girls, you know, he saying, you know, he didn't always, he ain't always been ugly as a wood. He's not fat, you know, he can say, you know. Everything, man. He never back down to no situation, man. He always was, you know, some of the time you see him, he's just always seen him be on gold. Like he was trying to, you know. Yeah, he was living like that for years. He was living, yeah. And that's the, that's the part of it. Because his talent was equating so big to where you would, you was wanting to like, man, just enjoy the success, you know what I mean? But he was so, so caught up in his life. And he was like, man, but, but when he first jumped out, like when people was hating and stuff like that, just cause I let him, he done been through, like I used to hear him talking about, he was letting a lot of, you know, he just let a lot of stuff. He let a lot of it go. Yeah, let it go. Thinking about that, like, man, I don't wanna do that no more. Yeah. You know, I kept going to jail and see, they end up bringing and see that. Wow. Let me ask you this. Like, like, when, what was the first song that, when you heard it, you like, that whole gonna go crazy. Man, you ain't talking about little, right? You talking about. Talking about taking the church and all that. Oh, uh, probably hold your tongue. Hold your tongue, cause you might say something I'm not like, I'm not like. I was there when you knew it. You was there that day? Yeah, yeah, I was there when he went, we went down town, the fire trip, do what that nigga name, uh, I forgot what. And then y'all was, y'all was, when y'all in the North too, y'all, I thought y'all was in the North. When? Y'all was in the, y'all didn't do this in the North. Nah, we went down town. I always in my mind comes to the North and the connection. We did the video? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about when he recorded it. Oh, when he recorded it. We was, when we did the video, we was in the middle four line. You came back with a beast, got slang on the lane with a G corner thing of cocaine in the seat. Everything that I speak, real deal. He didn't, but Rain was, was Rain with him? Rain probably came probably like. After that? Probably like nine months after that though. Okay. I remember like, I remember when he came around like first time I went to jail, I didn't go to the pen yet. But I was, I had just turned 17. And when we did that, we was probably like six months before I turned 17 when Hojo Town came out. Or well, like probably seven, eight months before. Wow.