 What's up guys and welcome to the one take podcast. I'm Gil. I'm here with my brother Alon. So hello Say hello. Hello And Daniel hello my other brother and this is gonna be a news episode and we're actually recording on Thanksgiving so I thought we could start in ten words or less Alon What are you thankful for this holiday season? I'm thankful for family for food and And all these great movies that are coming out which we'll talk about shortly Daniel You said less than ten words, right less than ten words, right? Yeah, five. You have five words left Four words left. Oh, I completely forgot about that rule when I said all right Daniel That's his big debut in the podcast and for me. I'm gonna say I'm thankful for the Mandalorian and to finally have a great start They ran out of words All right, and any Thanksgiving movies that we like Plain Strings and automobiles. So the only Thanksgiving movie. I'm not sure there are you know any others? That's the only one I could think of but great. Well the Mel Gibson turkey movie chicken run If you hear any sounds in the background, that's our family preparing for our one take Thanksgiving dinner Yeah, Plain Strings and automobiles, which is near and dear to my heart Alon. Why is that? My birthday remember you know I on your birthday you screened it at the community theater No, that was a different movie. Well at we screened good fellas one year All right, and then the next year my my next birthday we screened Plain Strings and automobiles Used to work at the community theater in our hometown. Can we stop giving away personal information? I'm just gonna bleep out every time that you referenced it Gil used to bleep. I use Google community theater You're gonna find many results Not as many as you think Not if you cross-reference it to where there have been private screenings of Plain Strings What other theater has screened good fellas and probably a lot actually? Yeah Also was this even like? Recorded anywhere like on their website or anything. No, definitely not It would be on my MySpace page though because that's where I advertise the event All right, well, let's get into it There was a lot of movie news this week and as always our goal here on one take is to find something Anything that gets a lot excited or to care about anything happening in the pop culture world So the first up this will see if this moves your needle Godville got Godzilla I don't know what's trying to say there Godzilla Godville sounds pretty cool. It does sound good. Yeah Godzilla versus Kong so this was scheduled for March 13th 2020 just this week they announced they're going to push it eight months to November 20th 2020 there have been a lot of rumblings of people been worried about this movie because Godzilla a few years ago with Brian Cranston. Yeah, we all saw that right. I remember that. Do you like that movie? I don't think I loved it, but you liked it, right? It was all right. Yeah, I think I think I liked it That was most people's reaction to it. It was a pretty big hit box office wise Then there was Kong skull island which took place years ago. I think it took place in the 60s That was another one. I don't think either of you saw it, right? No. No, I saw it I thought it was also pretty good didn't love it. I liked it But it did well at the box office then the Godzilla sequel Godzilla king of monsters flopped made 366 386 million dollars globally and the word is that it had to make five fifty to six hundred to break even but this Godzilla versus Kong was already in production but based off of king of monsters people have been worried about it is That why they pushed it back. Maybe they're trying to retool it make sure it's going to be a bigger hit We don't really know yet Well alone king of monsters. I think you were the only one at this table who saw that movie. Yeah, it wasn't good Did you watch it and think you know would make this better if we threw King Kong into the mix? No, I Mean it probably couldn't have hurt. Yeah So are you your thoughts on Godzilla versus Kong? I gave them a chance last time. I think they've lost my Commitment I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna see the next one unless it Happens to have amazing reviews which I would not bet on what does it need to get on rotten tomatoes for you to go out of Your way leave your home and go to the theater to see this movie 80 at least an 80 critic reviews or viewer views Critic reviews, right? Yeah What about you? There's a big discrepancy with a movie like that I'd be surprised if there's a big discrepancy. Yeah I think this movie would have to have like a 90% for me to have any interest. All right So Daniel's definitely not seeing Godzilla And along is maybe seeing it. Do you do you have any friends that talk about? Let me just cut it off right there. Do you have any friends? Do your friends talk about does anybody care about Godzilla man on the street? Just do you hear people talking about Godzilla? Do you think it's a franchise that has any legs? Nowadays not anymore No, Daniel No, did it ever in the US? I mean the Godzilla back in the early 2000s I remember I think I was in elementary school when it came out and there was a lot of buzz We were all excited for that movie Matthew Broderick What about you Dale? You're you're younger than us. So you're still in the in-crowd. What are people to saying about Godzilla? I haven't heard anybody talk about Godzilla ever to be fair He was on a ten-day meditation retreat. It was no talking. So you missed you were there when this big news hit So yeah, all right, let's let's move on from that and let's talk about another franchise a Shambling corpse of franchise. I think you could say walking dead When's the last time you watched walking dead? I Saw the whole season The whole second season that had megan in it You know like first there's a season where it ended with him with the baseball bat Oh, yeah, and then I saw the next one and then the one after that I stopped. Yeah, do you ever watch walking dead? I think I watched the first two or three seasons Got it That's when the show was considered sort of most people loved season one and then there's Arguments over how long it lasted after that ups and downs. I remember there being a general consensus that season two is Bad. Oh season two was rough. Yeah season two had a scene where they they were looking for water And they found a well and at the bottom of the well There was a zombie that was all bloated and gross because it had been at the bottom of that well for who knows how long and Their plan was to tie up Glenn and lower him with a rope all the way to the bottom of the well to try and take the zombie out They even if you got that zombie are you gonna go anywhere near that water, right? Why did they just like tape a knife to the end of a long stick? Well, they wanted to remove the zombie in that well to kill it first They couldn't like lower like a lasso or something and well The integrity of the zombies body had been so diminished by the water that it just kept falling apart But if you just remove the head they die in walking dead, right? Right, but then you have a headless corpse in your well But at least you kill it before you send a person down there. Yeah fair fair I would find another source what season of walking dead was was where they like get set up on that farm That was I think that might have been three. Oh Okay, so I at least watched through the farm. Yeah stuff. Well, a line you and I hung on for a while we made it years into that show and They are and they announced a year or so ago. They're doing another spin-off So there was fear the walking dead a spin-off that took place Right after the apocalypse began actually started right before the apocalypse began which I thought was kind of cool I thought hey We're gonna see the beginnings of the zombie apocalypse and they time jumped and we were sort of into it There's another walking dead spin-off coming out and they just announced the title for it So first I'll give you the premise Daniel. I'm assuming you don't know anything about what I'm talking about So this new walking dead spin-off will feature two young female Protagonists and focus on the first generation to come of age in the apocalypse as we know it Some will become heroes Some will become villains in the end all of them will be changed forever So it's kind of a young adult Hunger Games style take on walking dead. It's an established society in the zombie apocalypse and people who grew up After the apocalypse hit the name of this show is going to be the walking dead world beyond So alone Will this bring you back to the walking dead franchise? Will you give world beyond a chance? So That sounds interesting The story of two did you say they're sisters or no you they're just female protagonists So, you know, it's a cool concept to have these two girls that maybe they're friends in the beginning And then they split ways and then one becomes good one becomes bad. I like that concept I'm not sure exactly where the zombies will fit in there. Maybe one will start leading a Nice village and the other will lead a group like knee-gins or something crazy So that could be cool, but I don't have enough information yet I mean for me a lot of the problems with the walking the main one is Sometimes I feel they're trying to be too artsy and it's not done well enough to justify it, you know, right and uh, I don't know. I think there's too many stupid mistakes done done by characters in the show There's so many instances where I They get into a certain scenario and I think to myself the writers could have easily made them end up in that scenario through a more intelligent Process, right? But so they fixed those issues Which I think it's a lot of the same creative writing Well, I never saw the other spin-off you you've told me that's not bad I yeah, I watched a season or so of fear the walking dead And I thought it did a better job of making characters that were interesting I think it was a lower budget So they were forced to focus more on character drama and it worked pretty well for me I mean obviously not well enough to keep me watching But yeah, Daniel, what about you any chance you'll be watching at least watch the pilot give it a chance Yeah, I would give it a shot. I gave the the other spin-off a shot Yeah, what was your opinion? I was intrigued But like like I enjoyed the episodes that I saw like the one or two but not enough that I like Remembered to watch it again. Okay. I think the the new series could be cool in that Well, I guess it would explore right two things sort of like the psyche of people growing up there And then also like the social like what society looks like, right? But I guess from what we've seen from the writers They're pretty bad at the former right like character motivation and development and all that hasn't been that good And we were already seeing the second like what societies look like like in the other Walking Dead series So I don't know how much like new cool stuff. You would get to some extent. We've seen what a society looks like We've seen the beginnings of communities. This is gonna be more established like I expect to see What form of government do they have? I think it's to that extent that actually sounds awesome I would love to see that. All right, so Daniel's gonna give it a chance. I have a feeling of one's not watching this But unless Daniel sees it and maybe he'll really like it and then that'll bring a one back into the fold Last thing on Walking Dead. Will you be watching a line the Rick Grimes focused movie that's supposedly gonna be in theaters? Well, when's it coming out? I don't know in homes They haven't announced the release plan I mean it was a surprise recently when they said it's gonna be in theaters But I suspect it's going to be a limited release kind of like the Irishman where it'll be screened for a few weeks in Select theaters and then show up on AMC. I don't think I would see that in theaters I might I would watch it when it's available in homes Although I would need to catch up on exactly what happened to Rick. I'm not sure how that all ended exactly I don't know. What's the stance on spoilers in this? I think as long as we give a fair warning. Okay, I'm curious is Rick still alive in the show. Okay ready listeners Walking Dead spoiler warning We're gonna start talking walking dead spoilers check the show notes If you want to know what time stamp to skip to in order to avoid these spoilers What happened to Rick Grimes? It was announced that he was going to be leaving the show and everyone assumed that meant he's going to die So I had stopped watching Walking Dead by that point out of curiosity I jumped back into it for that episode and Basically, there's a moment where he has to sacrifice himself He has to blow up a bridge or something and he's in the explosion So you assume he died there was this secret society or this mysterious group of people that hinted at which we knew They had a helicopter occasionally we'd see a helicopter in the background. It was this big mystery What is this helicopter? Well, it turns out that Rick survived the explosion. He was barely alive Laying on the shore of like a lake or something and this helicopter came by they snatched him up It took him away to who knows where so all the characters on the show believe he died in that explosion And then the Walking Dead show had a several-year time jump So Rick is long forgotten, but they're going to be having they've announced three movies I think whether or not we get three will depend on the success of that first one So presumably we're following Rick in that helicopter to parts unknown So the actor left the show, but he's still doing these movies Yeah, because the reason he wanted to leave is he wanted to spend more time with family So this lets him do that if it's a movie He has to shoot for part of the year and the rest of the year he gets to stay with his family So is he not like acting full-time anymore? I Don't know if he's not acting full-time or maybe he's just gonna take roles that allow him to remain local Anyway enough about Walking Dead Let's move on to a topic that I don't know why this keeps coming up the fugitive So last week we talked about Harrison Ford bring being brought back I don't want to mean my brought back Harrison Ford being cast in a role where he's Falsely or potentially falsely accused of murdering someone which sounds very similar to the role he played in the fugitive And now they are Warno Brothers is moving forward with a fugitive remake It's going to be helmed by Albert Hughes. You know that is no Daniel. He directed the book of Eli From hell most recently alpha. You definitely saw the trailers for that at least That was about a kid and a dog or a wolf or something Anyway, not much is known about this Remake accept that the studio intends to put a new spin on the material Alon, do you care about a fugitive remake? Sure? I mean, I really like the original Let's see what they do I did to this. What do you think about this new spin? What do you think that's gonna be about? What was it again a new spin? That's all Maybe you said what the spin was and I missed it I Yeah, sure, let's see it Damn, do you even know what the fugitive is? I mean, I've heard of it I don't think I've ever actually seen it the fugitive was a TV show I think back in the 60s about a man who was falsely accused of murdering his own wife 30 years later. They did a movie adaptation of it with Harrison Ford and Tommy Lee Jones Tommy Lee Jones, and it was a great movie was actually nominated for I think eight Oscars I would consider it a classic. Definitely a classic There's a sequence which the Simpsons eight Where he's standing at the top Harrison Ford standing at the top of a dam, right? Mm-hmm, and he yells I didn't kill my wife and Tommy Lee Jones is like I don't care And then Harrison Ford jumps and it was it was huge. It's a big scene Did you say eight? Yeah, I mean stolen, right? I've never heard that before I believe you yeah It's real interesting. Look it up There is another fugitive remake happening at the same time strangely enough Well, then have you heard of the new web service in development called quibi? No Daniel oh It's the new media company Where they're creating short form content for platforms like snapchat, right? Yeah, that's right I don't know but I don't know if it's going to snapchat, but I know that they're doing Shows where they have episodes of ten minutes or less. Yeah, they're definitely designed with mobile in mind They are creating a fugitive quibi show Where Kiefer, Sutherland will take on the Tommy Lee Jones role and they also have a new spin So this is the premise of the quibi fugitive When a bomb rips through the Los Angeles subway train. He's riding on Blue collar Mike Farrow just wants to make sure his wife Allison and ten-year-old daughter Pearl are safe But the faulty evidence on the ground and tweet now confirm later journalism paint a nightmarish picture It looks to all the world that Mike was responsible for the heinous act Wrongfully and very publicly Accused Mike must prove his innocence by uncovering the real perpetrator before the legend Before the legendary cop Sutherland heading the investigation can apprehend him One question they refer to the character Mike Farrow as a blue collar doesn't say blue blue collar worker It's blue collar Mike Farrow. Oh, but it's so it's an adjective. Yeah blue collar Mike Farrow I think you can say that really Well, what do you think about this premise? Well, I love I think Kiefer Sutherland is Fantastic and I think that casting sounds really interesting to me The whole service itself that sounds kind of I'm not sure I feel about short ten minute episodes for a show like this But you know, maybe it maybe it makes sense. Let's see how they do it I'm kind of why are they doing two different remakes at the same time? This is Hollywood man. That's what they do. Huh. Yeah a friend of mine left me to go work for quibi Yeah, it's really interesting. They raise like a billion dollars It's all like Hollywood like production companies are involved in stuff The idea is like all short from content right now sucks and they're trying to make it like premium And I think by doing short form content They're probably it's probably easier to attract really high-end talent because the commitment so low But for me also it's hard to get excited about a seven minute episode of something especially if it's designed to be episodic and Each thing is going to try and be the self-contained arc ending on a cliffhanger every ten minutes Hard for me to get excited about that, but we'll be open-minded Speaking of open-minded, it's gonna it's gonna take an open mind to discuss this next topic the DC extended universe variety recently did a report on the current state of the DC EU as it's been coined and As far as I can sell to as far as I can tell to be honest reading through the variety article None of this felt like new information to me I feel like I knew all of this already But I thought it'd be fun to talk about and kind of take stock of where we're at in terms of the DC movies alone So far of the current slate of DC films What have you thought have you liked any of them? Have you hated any of them? Where do you stand? Let's see. I Liked Wonder Woman. I didn't think it was amazing. I fell asleep during Justice League On a plane. I wasn't like in the theater Right unless you remind me of one Joker is the only one that pops into my head as one I really enjoyed the one that took place outside the current continuity What about you Daniel? Yeah, I think I've only seen Joker and Wonder Woman Batman v Superman never seen it. I saw that. Yeah. No, I didn't love it Yeah, I actually liked the movie which which kicked off the whole DC EU Man of steel. I don't think either of you saw that but that's Superman movie I have a few issues with it But overall I thought it actually worked pretty well and it's pretty memorable to the score is awesome I liked Henry Cavill Superman. I have similar complaints as everyone else had about it But I actually thought it was pretty solid But yeah, after that Batman v Superman really didn't care for Justice League was there just a total meh movie Wonder Woman was all right. So we agree on a lot of that So DC right now is trying to write the ship They just had Joker which I think all three of us were a fan of right Daniel you liked it and Let's see. So what do we know for sure is coming from DC right now? The next thing we've got coming up is Birds of Prey and the fantabulous emancipation of one Harley Quinn That's coming February 2020. I think let's run down the line and just give me a yay or nay We're looking forward to Birds of Prey Well, does it have to be so binary? You can add some nuance to that if you'd like Yay ish Because Harley Quinn is a great character I don't know anything about all the other like her team in that movie, right and You saw the trailer, right? Yeah, and post trailer feeling more or less excited for it Well, this is my current stance post trailer. I didn't think it was an amazing trailer, but The parts I showed Harley Quinn, I mean she was doing her thing, right, you know her Harley Quinn thing. Yep Seemed good. Yeah, Daniel. What was the second movie? It's one movie Birds of Prey and the fantabulous emancipation of one Harley Quinn. Okay. I was making sure I was thinking of the right movie Yeah, I thought the trailer was cool. I would like I would watch it. I'm not like super excited about it though Yeah, okay. All right. All right. Well next you've got Wonder Woman 1984 and that's coming out June 2020 one Sure it sounds to me like maybe they're trying to you know Captain Marvel took place in the 90s now This is 1984 They're trying I think they're trying to get you with some of the nostalgia or the period piece aspect of it Yeah, Daniel. Is this the second Wonder Woman movie? This is the 1984 Yeah, this is the second one. Yeah, I would see it. I like the first Wonder Woman movie is The guy Chris Pine. Is that the actor? Is he in it also? He is. Yeah, I like the two of them in that movie Yeah, I was making a face cuz he's like, well, how's he gonna be in it? Didn't spoiler. Didn't he die? Yes, so people don't know it's it's mysterious. How is he in this movie and he hasn't aged a day There was a set pick of him. I like how in superhero movies They always find ways to bring characters from one time period to another. Yeah, I know maybe Thanos brought him back That's Marvel Gill he's probably frozen an ice, right? Okay. All right Here's the big one. Here's the boy. What do you think? You're not giving us your thoughts. Oh, yeah, I think it'd be fun They'll figure out a way. No, I might my thoughts birds of prey. I really didn't like that trailer to be honest I didn't like the not like the trailer. I thought Harley Quinn doing her Harley Quinn thing. It felt really exaggerated I don't remember that she always talks so like mr. J Didn't she maybe she did it. Maybe it was just I think the trailer Focused so much on Harley Quinn It felt really one note and I know that the movie sounds like if it's an ensemble cast right birds of prey Maybe in the next trailer if we see more of the other characters It'll work a little bit better for me But for me the trailer just felt really repetitive the same joke of Harley Quinn not really taking everything seriously being super zany You know, it's funny because the original suicide squad trailer was awesome Like whoever made the trailer like they knew how to make a good trailer. Yeah So by that pattern suicide squad trailer was awesome. Movie was terrible Trailer was not that great for birds of prey. Maybe the movie will be awesome. There you go Wonder Woman it wouldn't say I'm looking forward to it But I probably have higher hopes for it to be a good movie versus birds of prey the first Wonder Woman I thought act one give it an A middle of the movie probably give it a B or a C in the last third of the movie I'd give like a D. I Hated the way it went with the big CGI battle and I don't remember it too. Well, I just remember leaving Thinking the movie started a lot stronger than it finished and here's the big one the big question mark June 25th 2021 the Batman Are we excited for this movie? Yeah Just because it's Batman Do you think they're going to be able to rescue this iteration of Batman? I mean Batman v Superman not good Justice League meh. Do we know anything else about the movie? Like is it? Is he like just starting out as Batman like we know that it's younger Batman It's not going to be an origin story. So he's been Batman for some time. We don't know how long He's portrayed by Robert Pattinson and they've cast a few villains already, right? They cast Penguin Riddler Falconi right or Falcon the mob boss. That's right. John Turtur was just cast in that role catwoman So it sounds like it was rumored originally that the movie was primarily going to take place in Arkham Asylum They've recently come out and said that's not the case some of the movie will take place there But it's not going to be an Arkham set title an Arkham set movie They have said they're going to try and embrace Batman's detective roots and really emphasize that aspect of his character Beyond that. We really don't know a whole lot. Well, I like that Because Batman's always been like the world's greatest detective, right? Right? So it's we haven't really seen very much of that in the previous movies so Yeah, yeah, good so great even in Christopher Nolan He did some detective stuff, but I don't leave those movies thinking wow. He's a great. That was the world's greatest detective Daniel yeah, man. I guess I never I guess I never saw Batman vs. Superman and Justice League right like I didn't care enough to see Batman and those but I do love Batman. So if this movie is gonna be good, I would love to see it. Do you have? Confidence and the writers directors Matt Reeves is directing this movie. He directed War for the Planet of the Apes. Okay. Oh, that was a good movie. I like that Yeah, so I actually think that's the one I'm most excited about not just because I'm a Batman fan And how big of a Batman fan am I? Well, you were drinking out of your Batman coffee mug earlier. Yep. And what other Batman memorabilia do I have your shower curtain shower curtain? What do I do for Halloween dressed up as Batman dressed up as that's right? I don't know anything else. I have the Batman logo tattooed on my chest. Sure your chest Never mind, okay So yeah, I think that's gonna be a solid movie looking forward to that then we've got Aquaman 2 in December 2022 Not none of us saw Aquaman right, right? I never saw it But from what I hear it was kind of like Thor Ragnarok where they were kind of going in a comedic route a little bit From people have been telling me I should watch it. Yeah, what about you now? I've heard the same thing I've heard it's a solid movie and people have said that Aquaman has kind of become the Thor of the DCEU Now one thing about all these movies is if this were Marvel They would have announced. Yeah birds of prey Wonder Woman Aquaman and then in 2024 we're gonna have Justice League. They're not doing that. It seems like they're moving away from the Justice League concept They're trying to focus on these solo movies How do we feel about that? I mean would you rather see them laying a clear path to a Justice League? I would rather they take it one step at a time and Evaluate the performance of each of these I think Marvel had the confidence to lay out like a decade-long plan But DC I think they're well aware of the missteps that have occurred, right? So I like that. They're taking a little slower Yeah, and I think not only that but they're taking some chances in terms of Each of these movies feel like their own movie Like I I don't think birds of prey is gonna be at all similar in tone to Wonder Woman Versus Marvel where I think the movies have some leg room to move in terms of tone But they're all some variation of action comedy. Mm-hmm. I don't think Batman is gonna be an action comedy And I think part of the part of what allows that freedom is if you're not gonna have all these characters culminate in one movie You kind of have a little bit of freedom to say let's make these all different movies Let's have them all stand on their own. What about you Daniel? What what's your preferred approach? Yeah, I think I like the way you just described it honestly like whatever will help us get a good Batman movie is right what I want We also have This one's not a movie, but it's worth mentioning Green Lantern Greg Berlanti the guys in charge of all the Arrowverse shows flash arrow all that stuff Supergirl Do you know about HBO Max? No, this is WB is doing their own streaming service. They're sick of everybody else having their own So they're doing a HBO Max and it's a little bit confusing because they have DC Universe streaming service So they're gonna have superhero shows on both streaming services HBO Max DC Universe, but they've announced Green Lantern as an HBO Max series That one was interesting to me because you think Green Lantern that's a big sci-fi effects heavy concept and they're doing it as a TV show But I saw one you made a face when I said Arrowverse Yeah, just cuz I feel like all those CW movies have kind of a reputation at this point They're all kind of the demographic seems like it's for a younger a younger audience When I first started watching Arrow, I was pretty impressed with the darkness of the show and how ruthless of a hero he was But I feel like they kind of stepped away from the original tone. I haven't watched it for many seasons now So, you know for all I know it there is some of that in there now But yeah, I watched some of the flash and then I kind of My interest kind of dissipated, right? I mean same for you Daniel, right? Yeah Yeah So besides that here are a few movies that are still being talked about But I have doubts about whether or not they're gonna actually happen They haven't announced for lease dates and these are movies where they keep changing the writer It's just unclear what's gonna happen The flash so flash showed up in Justice League played by Ezra Miller Currently Andy machete who created it the director for it is slated to make a flash movie I don't know if it's actually gonna happen at this point Especially considering Ezra Miller is really busy with that fantastic beasts those movies Harry Potter spin-offs Are those any good? I Really didn't care for the first one and even people who liked the first one They tell me that they did not like the second one. So well, we got three more on the way. So Then there's a Green Lantern core or co rps corpse Hmm green. How do you pronounce that Daniel? I think just corp corp Green Lantern corp. So they've been talking about that movie for a few years so that would be a bunch of Green Lanterns coming together and That's another why I have doubts about why they're not that's gonna happen considering They're doing the HBO max series and I know DC gets a little skittish about having a movie and then having that Character on television at the same time. That's why with Batman You've got a Batman movie coming out in a bunch of series that kind of happened around Batman There is that Butler show Yeah Alfred you've got Gotham that just wrapped up Batgirl or Batwoman Yeah, I kind of like that I don't know if they're they were doing it intentionally, but the the movie and TV universes For DC are kind of like the comics where you have all these different versions So it's like if you're interested in one type of Batman you could go watch the movie if you're interested in another You can watch this show So, I don't know. Yeah, it's really the opposite approach of Marvel where Marvel they're doubling down on the everything is connected concept So any new Marvel shows coming out on Disney plus will tie directly Into the movies. So you don't have that same choice you have with DC So both approaches. I mean so far obviously Marvel's been killing it box office-wise But we'll see how this approach works for DC There is a Superman Henry Cavill It's been rumored for a couple years now that he's done playing Superman Especially since they have recast Ben Affleck people figured. All right, the whole Batman Superman. They're done They're gonna basically reboot them Recently in this this week Henry Cavill says he is not done that playing Superman. There's nothing slated right now officially But there might be maybe another Superman movie coming with Henry Cavill somewhere down the line I Would be interested to see that like I said I liked Man of Steel and I'd love someone to take another go at that and just give Henry Cavill a better movie to play Superman in yeah, I mean so while I didn't like Batman v Superman I thought he did a terrific job as the part. Yeah, did it really well Yeah, agreed and speaking of Superman JJ Abrams. You guys know this guy. Yeah, yeah, what's JJ Abrams made? A bunch of awesome things right lost. Yeah lost. That's your go-to Lost and Star Trek Star Trek all the Star movies Star Wars. He made Star Wars, too Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker. Oh, that's awesome. How can you even consider yourself part of the warship family? What else what else? Did he have anything to do with the TV show alias? Yes, I Started thinking somehow of Joss Whedon Those are different. Those are different human Both start with a J but actually speaking of Joss Whedon So what so JJ Abrams basically there's been rumors that JJ Abrams has been meeting with WB with DC recently to potentially get involved in the DC EU It seems like he's the guy you want to bring in to resurrect franchises that are struggling at all Star Wars Star Trek Maybe now it's DC. He had been talking to them in the early 2000s to do a Superman movie that fell apart But they might be bringing him back into the fold But why Joss Whedon? Why is he relevant are either of you familiar with something called? Release the Snyder cut I've been seeing that all over Twitter, but I'm not exactly sure you've seen this Daniel. No So Justice League when that movie when that movie was being made It was originally being helmed by Zack Snyder who had made man of steel He made Batman v Superman so he was making Justice League Partway through the production of that movie Zack Snyder had to step away due to a family tragedy that brought Joss Whedon in To finish the movie and apparently when Joss Whedon came it came aboard He did a lot of rewrites a bunch of reshoots and people ended up not very satisfied with that movie Since then in the last couple of years little dribs and drabs of information have come out about Zack Snyder's original intent with that movie and There have been rumors that there exists a Snyder cut Basically the Snyder version of Justice League and fans have been clamoring to see it It's unclear if it's a lot of people who want to see it or if it's just a very loud Minority, I mean they have done things like raising enough money to buy a billboard that says release the Snyder cut They've raised a lot of money which they've given to charity and also used to fund things like the billboard And they've just been keeping that drum going for a long time now It's gotten the attention of some of the stars of the movie who have tweeted about it But anybody that is in any position of power, they've basically been saying it's not gonna happen There's not gonna be a Snyder cut. I mean there isn't a fully produced Zack Snyder version of this movie So people have people on the inside have claimed that they've seen the Snyder cut and what they describe is Some of the movies made some of it will be kind of animated portions where it's just storyboard Unfinished effects that sort of thing, but this week somebody I think on Instagram told Zack Snyder They were losing hope that they'd ever get to see this and he simply replied Don't So I don't know. I mean, how do you feel about like should they release a Snyder cut? I mean, why not I? There were some fears that what if they release it and it's better than the original movie and then people will blame the executives who made the Decisions to chop up the movie the way they did Is you don't really feel you're not like I feel bad for those movies to deal. Well, I feel I feel like people Probably already have that thought like the fact that they want it probably implies that They feel like it might be better than what they saw right so the thoughts are already there regardless. Yeah, that's true I'm more just feel bad for Joss Whedon What? Yeah, he's a good director. I feel like he did his best. Yeah Yeah, I honestly I would have said there's no chance it'll ever get released But why would Snyder stoke the flames if it's not gonna ever come out and Now part of the if they do release it It's not gonna be a fully satisfying experience because he intended for his Justice League to be the first of Two or three movies so we know the movie is gonna end on a cliffhanger If it gets released the I could maybe see it happening on HBO Max the streaming service Maybe it'll be more of a behind-the-scenes Documentary style thing that gives you enough of the movie But I just can't see a movie studio being comfortable releasing like a rough draft movie where ten minutes in it cuts to Storyboards instead of actual movie. I think they would just be afraid of how audiences would receive that But if they do it, I think it'll be kind of unprecedented. Maybe if people keep asking for it, it'll eventually happen We'll see Overall though. All right, so that's pretty much everything. They've been saying about DC like I said I don't really think any of that was new information But a line if you were put in charge You're head of the DC EU and they ask you what are we gonna do? How do we make people excited about DC? That's a good question. I think that from what you said it sounds like they're trying a little bit of what I would want which is Self-contained stories for the individual characters. I Really like obviously, you know, I love Joker. I think it was because it was a very unique Style it didn't feel like it belonged to this other unit this whole universe But I would be very interested to see it connect at some point. So I would love self-contained stories with maybe Hints at a connection to the others and then maybe eventually we can get another Combination film like Justice League, but I think they should wait until they've established these characters and How they should all be treated right do a Justice League when someone has a good take on it And it'll be a good movie do them justice before you do Justice League. Yeah What about you Daniel, I think that makes sense the only thing I'm wondering is I just like why has DC Been unsuccessful right relative to Marvel right like is it is it just that they've executed poorly on each of the movies? Or do they also just have like characters that just are less appealing right? Like like all these characters besides like Batman and Superman like do they have the same level of following that like a lot of Marvel's had that might be a valid argument accept Iron Man Nobody cared about Iron Man, and that was considered pretty risky But Marvel Studios had basically no choice because they'd sold off this sold the film rights So all their big characters so they couldn't debut with a spider-man movie And they took Iron Man a character nobody cared about and built the entire Marvel universe off him Because they found a way to make that a successful movie So I don't know I mean that might be part of the argument But clearly it can be done to take these characters that are lesser known maybe the flash I don't know if the average person is aware of the flash, but you can make a good flash movie, right? For me the reason the DC movies have have failed is a combination of Number one if I look at the people who write and direct these movies I personally am not a big Zack Snyder fan I think visually he can do a lot of interesting things But I don't think that if you're gonna follow Christopher Nolan's Batman That was such a nuanced take with Zack Snyder. You're kind of going the opposite direction You're going with maybe great visuals, but I Got used to having this great take on Batman I knew I was gonna be disappointed by whatever Zack Snyder did on top of that They were trying to rush into Justice League and if you watch Batman v Superman There's one scene where I think Wonder Woman or I forget who yeah Wonder Woman or Batman get it a little SD card That essentially has little movie teasers for the flash Aquaman it was so blatantly shoehorned in that it definitely weighed the movie down so I think it was just a combination of Movie studio trying to pull it in certain directions and frankly not getting the best talent to make each movie. I Do think they're doing some of the right things now though and they got somebody good for Batman It's it sounds like they're giving them leeway to try different things Even with Aquaman that movie was made by James Wan the guy who made Conjuring those horror movies And he's currently developing a horror spin-off of Aquaman called the trench Which I guess is a dark and spooky part of the ocean That's intriguing. Yeah So I think if they can do their version of Marvel where creators have more freedom They don't all have to fit the same mold They can be a little bit more mature when it's appropriate like Joker They can do movies like Joker or maybe they don't tie in at all I think that's great. That's the direction. I want them to go and We'll see how it goes like Daniel said the main thing for me if we can get a good Batman movie. I'll be happy. Yep Alright Last thing I want to talk about. I think every episode we've got to talk a little bit about Star Wars Considering we're just a few weeks away From the end of the Skywalker saga Rise of Skywalker So there was an article recently saying that Rise of Skywalker is currently tracking for a 200 million dollar opening weekend, which is a great opening weekend except Force Awakens opened at 248 last Jedi opened at 220 Rise of Skywalker is currently projected to be 200 which would be the lowest of the trilogy of the new trilogy When I told you this earlier and you said I'm not surprised Yeah, I mean people have been disappointed in general by these new movies I'm not surprised if some people dropped off. I Mean, I'm probably one of many people that is gonna see it just because I saw the other two And I just have to finish it. Yeah, what about you Daniel? How did you feel about Force Awakens last Jedi? For me, it's similar to Walking Dead where it's like or like the Walking Dead spinoff where I enjoyed watching them but I I don't even remember them and I don't I don't really follow the news about it because I I guess I didn't Enjoy them enough to actually follow it, right like I'll definitely see it Mm-hmm part of my theory has been that I think if they really I guess they are pushing it But they're saying this is the end of the Skywalker saga and you would think that would draw tons of people in Because even if you weren't super into the last couple of movies, you would at least say well, I love Luke Skywalker Leia The whole Star Wars story and this is supposed to be concluding the whole thing It's not just the end of the trilogy, but it's the end of the trilogy of Trilogy's but I was watching a teaser today TV spot and it says this is the end of the Skywalker saga and the only Skywalker on screen is Kylo Ren and he's a jerk so It just doesn't have that 9th movie ending feel to it as much as I'd like But hey, I'm gonna see it not only that I bought five tickets Even though we're probably only gonna use two of those some I'm pumping up those box office numbers a little bit But yeah, I'm excited for it. I think I'm probably the most excited at this table. I am looking forward to it I liked last Jedi. I liked it probably quite a bit I just had a few complaints about it, and I wish it was better and one last little tidbit Here's one reason that you're both gonna be excited to see your eyes of Skywalker and that's Christopher Nolan You both like Christopher Nolan, right? Yeah, Daniel. You love Christopher. I do He has a new movie coming out called Tenet Very little is known about this all they've said is that it's an action epic Evolving from the world of international espionage and it's rumored to have something to do with time travel maybe That sounds awesome. You know Christopher Nolan. He likes to drop Six to seven minute kind of snippets of his movie before big movies Rumor has it that rise of Skywalker if you see it in IMAX There will be a six to seven minute teaser for Tenet. We're not seeing it in IMAX though, are we? No, we're not is that before or after the movie before it's kind of weird And they did the same thing with Dark Knight. I think yeah, I remember watching the robbery scene, right? Yeah, that's right That was awesome Yeah, so I'm gonna have to see Rise of Skywalker twice All right, I hope it's good. Yeah, me too And if anybody out there needs tickets for Rise of Skywalker Got three extra ones Right next to us. Yeah one take contest see Rise of Skywalker with killing one. You can sit right between us We'll give you our live commentary the whole movie Mouthful popcorn others to the part where we bring these microphones in yeah, we'll bring the mics in a fun fact Palpatine Hey, I'm doing a podcast here. All right. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah All right, why that covers it is a lot to get through but this was a big Big episode because it's Thanksgiving. This was the Thanksgiving one take special Maybe next time we'll discuss some things we're more excited about All right, and one thing I'm not gonna do is end this episode it with a copyright Copyrighted song so we're not gonna have any music unless I find some good license-free music to end on right alone, right? Anyway, thank you for listening to the one take podcast if you enjoyed this podcast Make sure to go into the Apple podcast app leave a rating Maybe leave a review and if you're on overcast, you know hit that little button that shares it with your friends spread the word be a part of the one take family and Make sure to go to youtube.com Slash one take vids where you can see video reviews Video breakdowns of other shows like watchmen and Mandalorian By the way, if you're a Mandalorian fan on this podcast stream We are recapping the Mandalorian every week So check back in a few days for that episode anything else alone. 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