 Well it is 7.04 so I will call the meeting to order. We have one item on our agenda tonight which is an application by Henry Legieux Jr. For site plan and conditional use review of a request of an unlisted use to construct a single family home. And representing the applicant tonight we have Chip Legieux. Are there anyone else that is interested in this this application that wants to be an interested party. If not yeah I guess I guess that would be myself and myself is home. This is Steve Morse. Okay Steve are you interested in being a term Tom? Party status? Party status. Are you some party status? Party status really means that you are not only can use a presentation but if you don't agree with the decisions of the board you can appeal the decisions of the board. So are you seeking party status Steve? No no I'm not seeking party status. Basically what I am just seeking is trying to find out where in relationship to my land this you know Chip's thinking of putting in the house just so I can engage accordingly on my end. Okay well you're welcome to participate in this hearing and if you decide to change your mind let us know and you want to be a participant. I'm going to start by swearing in the applicant and anyone else who wishes to testify and Steve if you wish to testify you need to raise your right hand and since we can't see you we're going to have to take your word for it. For that matter I can't see Chip either. Do you swear to tell the truth? None of the truth matter before this board tonight under penalties or perjury? I do. I do. I do. Thank you. I think we have three I do. So Chip yes you were starting to tell us and now is the right time to tell us with an overview because we have specific criteria that we will go through but it's good for us to understand where you're doing things what you want to do and so forth. Sure. It was over you the project. Sure so it's a single family dwelling with an attached garage and Steve it's right across from the church and the pastor's house on Warner road just to give you an idea where it is and so it's just it's there's the lots that are there are two three and four so I should be lot four lot two and three will stay the same that's where Kim Johnson's building is on Warner road it's the brown building on the left if you're driving from airport road down Warner road so it's basically there now there's a the church the wealth church the personage I think that's the right word my brother's house is down near the end of Warner road so this is just a lot that's on that road which is in the light industrial district but that's where we're planning on putting the house Jeff can you can you talk to about the subdivision or lack thereof I know we've tried to find some paperwork right there's there's an old drawing I I don't have it in my stack of stuff now I believe we're gonna have we will go through that to have it recorded basically what that's going to end up is as on the drawing is now lots two and three will remain as a single lot be retained by Henry Lagu Junior lot four will be purchased by the Hoffman's one of which is my daughter and then the rest of the so-called Kelly farm whatever you want to call it 60 something acres will remain as it is now and there's the town sewer is right there we've applied to the state for the ANR approval when we do have an allocation from the town and it will be hooked to the town sewer well I'm not sure about water yet we talked a little bit about it with Tom as a potential maybe moving the or running the town water down there but I just I have no idea what that cost would be so potentially just a drilled well on the lot so I have a question ship because I'm still trying to visualize where this house will be is it as you go down Warner road will it be on the right or the left the left left it's almost yeah so are you've been down there in the summer yeah I went down there now what looks like there's three houses so where is it in relation to the three houses um it'll be there's actually down there there's a church on the right then there's a next house yeah almost directly directly across the road from the second house so it's up okay near the top yeah okay great thanks and and you're muted Carla if you go to the state of Vermont personal viewer you can get a great shot of all this so so Bob I just um want to reiterate that because the um status of their need they need to go through a subdivision so what what the board will really approve tonight would be the the change or the unlisted use you will not be approving the the single family home at this time because it's not on a they need to go through that subdivision okay so that's not an approved subdivision we can't write record on it no record there's no record of being recorded there's many drawings of it but there's no no record of it so the in that process requires approval from the drb or just a zoning administrator drb yeah so so if we choose to approve tonight it still needs to come back again for the subdivision itself correct okay so again can we approve tonight if it's not official subdivision yeah what you're doing is you're approving the the the the unlisted use okay that's what you're approving tonight okay that's really before the board tonight this is an unlisted use um uh so unlisted uses are covered by section um uh 2005 uh c where the board has some some authority some are prerogative here uh this is not listed as a permitted use or conditional use neither um and this is not the first time this has happened to us this is uh we had one previously where we had different circumstances but we had a residential application and light industrial district so um so what we're doing here is approving the use we're not approving the building because that still needs an approval of the subdivision and obviously it needs approval of the zoning administrator for the building itself so there are other steps to be taken but i think probably from chief point of view this is the first step that he needs to take and otherwise the rest are needless um correct so um chief so tell us um uh you've read the ordinance i trust um tell us uh how you feel this managed to fit into the criteria the ordinance the um why the board shouldn't allow this as a this residential use in the light industrial district right i'm to be honest with you i was kind of surprised it wasn't in there it used to be listed as a conditional use i know my brother's house is a conditional use i assume that the other one is too but um until uh the big white house at the top of the hill um was demolished um steve parks lived and i'm neighboring uh a lot um my parents house is right down there the topical trail is uh is a residential cell there is quite a bit of residential we understand that um if a development you know something uh permitted under light industrial could go in right next door and and that's that's kind of the risk you take so there's you know there's there's no question about that so i mean other than that it's there's more houses than there are light industrial in that area and like i said until i'm not sure when it actually changed but they always used to be wow i shouldn't say always used to be but used to be that um residential was a conditional use in the light industrial district that changed in uh 2019 um okay uh you do have you have first this testimony uh we probably should go through that testimony um so that paraphrase it or i just refer to what you give this writing uh but so you require conditional use approval um yes i i'm not sure what the protocol here is and maybe tom or carl can help me uh do we need to find that this is a um a reasonable use in this district first or is that part of the conditional use review process that's part of the conditional use process the recipe is go through the conditional use hear what the applicants um um statements are and then you make a determination if if it makes if that uses makes sense for in that section of the town thank you tom um so that's where i was going but i wasn't really sure but um so um speaking to the uh criteria then for a conditional use review which i will now dig out um and i say you've addressed them but uh the first has to do with the uh capacity of community facilities and utilities and if you're right sure sure no problem that so 3302 um is that section um basically a single family home um you know wouldn't have much of an impact on the local schools may actually help the uh student population very little effect on uh you know police fire ambulance service the the road is very flat the access is very good so that won't you know have any problem um not going to affect any parks or recreational facilities um the sewer disposal like i said is um you know the town sewer runs right through the lot so um hooking up to that uh won't be you know a problem or and stormwater system because it's i mean it's a house on a on a on a lot that'll either be grass or plantings or trees um should mitigate you know any real stormwater issues um um traffic wise um you're at you know we're adding one house a couple cars here or there to warn a road um so again not not generating a lot of a lot of activity uh character the area actually as i said the character the area is actually uh more residential even though there is a nice new building right up on airport road going up um but for the most part is it's actually more residential than it is the light industrial in that area um no significant natural resources in the area um energy conservation i mean the house should be built with you know uh energy efficient stuff because can't afford not to these days so um whatever is required i'm not sure i know as they do go through the house they're they're working with uh the builders to you know make sure they have insulation and all that you know good stuff not so i think i'm not sure if that exactly answers all those questions you you have but um it's it's hard to get a house into some of those criterias we do have a drawing which i have to admit i don't have my blank glass big enough to help me with it but um um uh yeah regarding the setbacks tom i'm going to ask you you you would you will reviewed all those and they see and etc setback requirements again we're only looking at the use here bob so setbacks will be a part of another application and would you a lot lot size and all that will be a separate application okay so it really has to do with the use um thank you um dude remember the board have a question for chip review i'll just add uh chip mentioned that he applied for a wastewater allocation from the berlin public's work board he has been granted that allocation so that was just one other hurdle but he he's gone over in preparation this meeting do we have public water supply anywhere near there tom we do and chip mentioned that earlier that um it's uh near the the um where air um industrial lane comes down uh and it's probably several hundred feet from this lot okay that's a separate again separate application separate decision um which would be dealt with at the time the joining administrator so um with regard to the use uh does anybody have further questions for chip mr moist do you have any further questions or comments oh i have no uh no comments and no questions uh i see no issues uh of any any kind on my my uh yeah thank you uh tom we don't have tom we don't have anybody else on do we uh let me look here real quick just nobody outside of who we've already known about okay somebody's on my screen doesn't want to respond but um okay very good um i think um where we are is as as a board we're going to have to deliberate this to see how it fits into our ordinance uh if no one has further questions for the applicant uh are there any additional comments by you tom no no sir okay in that case i think i'm looking for a motion to close this hearing i move to close the hearing most has been made and seconded by well both carla and i'll give it to carla folly first every left and um all's um and he discussed that motion all those in favor of that motion to close the hearing portion of this application uh everything i i i i i have lost tour as soon as he's here somewhere okay he's in the affirmative you guys can always use your um your your cues down here your reactions uh oh bob's a zoom zoom right now he is isn't he all right here we go here we go all right the motion is carried in this hearing is now closed um and i thank you chipp thanks chipp thanks chipp thanks chipp have a good night good night good night um we have um other business in public uh tonight which is the minutes of our last meeting so um i'm going to ask for a motion to approve the minutes of um march second uh 20 20 moot motion by john seconded by poly fast um so any discussion that motion any corrections uh all those in favor of that motion please signify by saying i i i so um i would obtain a motion to go in the deliberate session so moved again john seconded by poly it's 723 all yep all those in favor of that motion please signify by saying i hi hi hi hi i need i need to move some people around yes you do we're now going to go to a little session and everyone else is uninvited all right um well the deliberations will be uh continued and and brought into findings um so uh the only item we have left on our agenda tonight besides after pack to leave uh he is the um uh rule of the minutes of the meeting of three two 21 and we're we've done that already already did that that oh i'm sorry i i'm reading from my script thank you i i i would just remind this board that we likely will be meeting for the next three scheduled meetings here okay we will we will oh good me no good um if there's no other matters if there's no other matters to be brought up before the sport tonight i would entertain a motion to adjourn i move that okay second by me and john seconded by poly all those in favor of that motion please signify we'll say by saying i hi hi and we have adjourned i thank you very much thank you have a good evening see you in two weeks so bye big trip mom