 This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network It is a massive week in horse racing with the breeders cup coming up this weekend We're to break down the breeders cup with dubs Anderson of Fandall TV picking his brain on This year's event talking about the breeders cup classic and other races He likes for this week then I'll take a look at week number nine in the NFL and breakdown Where my model is showing value for this week This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and Fandall research My name is Jim Sonos I am a managing editor of a digital media for Fandall research joined here as mentioned by Dubs Anderson check him out on Twitter at mr. Dubs You can find him on Fandall TV and also on TV G and dubs It is a delight to have you on the show for today. How you doing? I'm doing good Jim It's a pretty exciting week for us with the horse racing the 40th edition of the breeders cup World championships and for all of our sport fans out there to put it in context This is essentially the Super Bowl of horse racing, you know game seven in the world series It's the very best from Japan from the southern hemisphere from Europe all converging out here to Southern, California And we will play host out here at center. Neeta for record 11th time So it gets underway there on Friday two fantastic days of racing We've got 14 championship races in total with more than 31 million dollars in prize versus up for grabs So surprise surprise the very best in the sport trying to swoop here on Southern, California Well, you set the scene beautifully Dubs. So I appreciate that. Thank you very much for doing so there And I feel like this has got to be an exciting time for you too at Fandall TV because the coverage this week Looks like it's gonna be pretty insane. So how psyched are you like from a coverage perspective for this week as well? It's been fantastic. So we've got breakfast at the breeders cup Which you can catch at Fandall racing and then we go all the way up until lunchtime on Fandall TV all the way up until Thursday And then Friday obviously day one of the championship. So it's been fantastic. I mean the coverage the content has been superb I know it's a big week for the team But we've got the very best of the best live on site from Sunup at center Neeta Breaking the latest news every entry every horse everything you need to know because it's a great sporting Spectacle, you know for me It's one of the probably top three on the sporting calendar, but it's also a great Wagering a couple of days to be had here for the better It's whether you're a regular horse player whether you think and hey Maybe Thursday night football is it's not that fantastic for me this and have a lean or an opinion Take a look at the horses and the best part about it at Fandall is you can do both You can play any sport in the single wallet and when I say any sport that also includes horse racing We just can't find that anywhere else. So plus 300 on one of the big races there on Friday afternoon It's the same as an any-time Dinger in the world series So a lot of money a lot of great chances to be had I love it We're gonna talk to you about your favorite bets for this weekend here throughout the show for today Talk to you about your process to and much more But first a quick reminder to make sure you're subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcasts You can find us an Apple podcast Spotify wherever you get your podcasts You can find us if you like what you hear leave us a five-star rating on Apple podcasts or Spotify And of course the show is up on Fandall TV plus and the Fandall YouTube page as well Now dubs will dive into the extra races here in just one second first I want to talk to you about your overall process We talked to Christina Blacker back in the spring about her process But obviously everyone has a different process when it comes to betting in general but specifically with horse racing So what steps do you take dogs before you place a bet on a race? Yeah, and it's very similar to taking a look at how we handicap a lot of other sports and you know The big thing in horse racing. It's not just the same distance in the same horses Just you know, we get the next 14 and we throw them into the gates to I guess to make a comp It's very similar to when you look at the Olympics and say the swimming Discipline there's a lot of different Distances that they go the 200 the 400 this breaststroke this freestyle this backstroke. So all these horses Yes, they're race horses, but they're suited to different conditions. So that's where I start I look at the conditions of a race. How far are we going? What surface are we going on here in America? I would say we generally well the bigger races are out there on the dirt But we still have turf racing over in Europe. They run on the grass on the turf So I start with the conditions first and foremost Then I'll be taking a look at the class which I guess is the strength of the field What kind of races are these horses coming out of are these? Division one horses are they grade one winners? Are they group one winners? Maybe they're a division two and they're stepping up to a grade one trying their hand because of these big prize purses So I try and identify the levels of class for each runner each competitor going into the gates after we look at The conditions and then we look at you know a horse race in terms of a pace scenario We always say you know pace makes a race the same way that we look at a script for a game on Sunday afternoon We think there's gonna be a lot of offense if it's gonna be a bit of a track meet You're gonna favor the early speed types go on the six furlongs Maybe it's a test of stamina duration who's set up for the battle of attrition So we look at the early speed types and try and you know funnel out the way that the race will go If there's a couple of early speed types Maybe they take each other out of the race and it opens it up late for a bit of a closer So you really need to know the run style of each individual competitor the conditions the class of the race and certainly the speed And we do have speed figures in racing like we have you know ER raised for starting pitches and player ratings out there in the football as well So a lot goes into it But it's not so different to the way that we would approach handicapping a basketball game or a football game out there on a Sunday And the interesting thing about this week is that there are different conditions for different races at the Breeders Cup And they're at Santa Anita Park this week when they rotate venues the Breeders Cup So what should people know about this track but also this event because again like I said It's not the same for every single race they'll run on Friday and Saturday No, and it's really tough I guess going back to the handicapping form is a big thing we look at all these factors but form coming into the race It's like coming in to a big game or coming into you know a tournament with the golf How they've been playing coming up this you want to make sure they're coming in with good form And they've got the ability the top gear to match there, but look Santa Anita will see a bit of a mixed bag We do have turf racing going on with the dirt as well The international Raiders will be pointed more towards the turf racing, especially coming across from Europe You look at that course. It's gonna play pretty firm there So I think it does give some of the American horses a better chance out there at Santa Anita on the dirt course I think it's gonna play pretty fair to the homegrown heroes but I do think some of the Japanese runners could fare pretty well because The the style of course that they race on over there in Japan on the dirt. It's a bit more sandy It's a bit grainier, which I think it's a bit more taxing out here at the great race place at Santa Anita I think it could carry them a little easier and maybe they can save a bit of energy as they turn for home So I think it could suit a couple these Japanese runners pointed towards the big races out there on a fast course Now how tough is it for you as a handicapper when you're looking at this weekend where you do have to you know account for The different conditions it's the same venue But like different conditions when you're going from race to race like how tough is it for you to like keep track? You know if you're going from the turf to the dirt, etc. Etc. I just feel like for you It's a it's a lot to juggle all at once Yeah, it really is and that's the beauty of handicapping the horse racing and it's why you get to see some massive numbers You know last year we saw a 42 to one shot coming home We saw the prize pool for the pig five up around five million dollars So look you jump in to play the pony's you're not going to win every single race But if you can be right on just one or two opinions throughout Friday or Saturday You can have a nice little return on investment But yes, it gets a lot murkier going through different surfaces different distances Especially with the international runners that we just haven't seen stack up against some of the competitors here from the states I mean it would be like going into a major in the golf where we've got players that haven't played on the pga tour Showing up and go well they've done really well in Europe But how's that going to translate to plan on a golf course here in the States against golfers from the tour? It's tough trying to marry the two up and again That's why we get such Fantastic prices with the horse racing playing the ponies at the Fandall Sports book But no it's not easy if I can if I can you know sit higher than 50 percent movements for the weekend Well, I'll be I'll be a very happy man And this is why we're leaning on you and I've tried to do it myself for sure for this weekend Now we're gonna focus on the classic here for a second because they had a post draw for that last night And you know we were talking to Christina back in the spring She talked about how post draw did influence some things for her in a couple of those races now Look at the post draw last night for the classic specifically dubs any horses you bumped up or down based on where they drew last night Yeah, I guess the big news Coming through the Archangelo got the inside draw Archangelo has been retired to stud So your winner of the Belmont they're one of the star three rolls would not move ahead into the classic And that affects the betting because Archangelo was considered to be one of the top betting choices We look at the early speed of this race Arabian night a super star for one of the big names that a lot of bettors will recognize in Bob Baffett Has that early speed begets the outside draw? So this is gonna be a big ass now I think the course will give Arabian night a good chance to get in that race but cutting across and trying to set the tone in this one That's gonna take a bit of extra energy from this star three-year-old So I think that actually hurts the chances for me looking at the field of the classic I'm looking for a nice Inside draw middle of the packs we can just sort of sit one or two back And as they turn for home have that devastating turn of foot and for me I think it does point towards one of the Japanese contenders in Ushba Tesoro Now the Japanese runners they've had three wins from 15 starters out of the nine that they bring across towards the world Championships this weekend. I think Ushba Tesoro on this surface on this course is absolutely a live player Jumps from the eight spot is listed at four to one on the morning line I think Arabian night will likely go off as your post-time favorite of Ushba Tesoro sitting around four five to one Absolute play on and that's in the eighth spot as you mentioned there for Ushba Tesoro four to one on the morning line right now and I think that if we're asking about this from the perspective of the Archangelo scratch How much does that change things? How much value does it open up for this field knowing that one of the best horses will not be running on Sunday? Absolutely now Archangelo wasn't gonna set the tone in this one But having that inside draw was absolutely gonna get a nice little trip and be in that conversation So I think it does open things up it points towards Arabian night But again, not a favorable post-draw coming from the outside Ushba Tesoro this question marks coming across to the states We've seen the morning works has a lot of personality a lot of character has the big win getting that scored the Dubai World Cup And you know we talked about surfaces and this is an interesting one Ushba Tesoro had three wins from 22 starts on the turf That's not good goes through a surface surface switch gets on to a dirt course has rattled off seven of the last eight So something about running on a nice firm fast course not firm on a fast course out there on the dirt Ushba Tesoro absolutely loves has personality has character and we forget that these horses they're athletes They're just like any other athlete you want an athlete who's willing to engage who enjoys to race And I think we're getting that with Ushba Tesoro All right, so we put this or something like your best bet for the breeders cup classic specifically any other horses You have an ion for that race. Yeah And I think you know if we do get a murky pace scenario and we get a nice little start from the sixth They're Saudi crown for Brad Cox at 12 to 1 in the morning line I think we're gonna sneak under the radar you look at the past performances Obviously doesn't have the class that you know some of the big contenders bring into this one But with five starts three wins two noses away from having a perfect race record. I've been fine from five Lightly raced. I think it's absolutely live there at a bit of a price And I do think the public will remain chilly towards just because we've got that wow power of the international runners Dermasota garky who a lot of people would have saw would have seen in the Kentucky Derby and Some of the other big names So I think Saudi crown is probably the price play for me who will sneak under the radar and hopefully we get Double digits at 12 to 1. It's the same as plus 1200 same number same value same price I think that's where the value is. Alright Saudi crown 12 to 1 the other one dubs has his eye on for the breeders cup classic Now another big race this weekend is the juvenile Philly that race is on Friday. What stands out to you when you look at that one dubs The juvenile Philly. Yeah, look Tamara is considered to be the next superstar in the sport And so sport where we need the superstars and you look at Tamara her mom Beholder a Hall of Famer won this very race back in 2012 at this very course and look there's a lot of synergy here, right? It's not every year that we stop at Santa Anita for the breeders cup It's in a record 11th time But beholder was a special horse got the win in 2012 came back in 2013 at the world championships Got another win had a bit of adversity had a bit of a layoff was out of form returns as a six year old And got a third score in the breeders cup and suddenly here comes Tamara for Hall of Fame trainer Richard Mandela another big conditioner You've got you've got to be paying attention to has the two starts and has looked absolutely Fantastic and is a splitting image of her mom the Hall of Famer beholder there So Tamara a lot of upside a lot of ability but with so much expectation Will likely go off at a pretty short price there on Friday But the common theme for the Friday card future stars Friday is the two-year-olds the younger runners A lot of these superstars we will see next year on the trail for the Kentucky Derby for the triple ground So Tamara has looked fantastic to start the career certainly has the pedigree has the connections big money Mike Smith and Mandela Team enough for this one and from all reports has a very very very strong in the morning works And that's what you want to see. You know the two-year-olds. They're the rookies They're like playing their first couple of games in the NFL. They're trying to figure things out the three-year-olds That's the glamour division the three-year-olds are the ones pointed towards the triple crown So Tamara with a big win here Who knows could be looking to take on the boys next year for around the Kentucky Derby Now the odds on camera right now are four to five for the morning line odds Is that value for you with that? It's not it's not especially with the younger runners You know there's so much of a chance to take a big step forward And all we can do is handicap on what we have seen through two starts and a lot of these runners Maybe they haven't shown us a lot on debut on that second career start But third start fourth start the big race day they figure it out They can take such a big step forward so a lot of expectation for me I want to see Tamry get it done and proceed to be one of the big superstars in the sport going in to 2024 but at four to five even for me that number that price just getting a little short if you can get even money or You know slightly plus money plus 125 I would say that's a plus on but should be the one to beat and it's gonna get a lot of bars out there on Friday Now does the presence of Tamara take away any incentive for you to bet elsewhere because a lot of times when you've got a horse And maybe did overvalued it can open a value elsewhere, but Sometimes they're there for a reason so are you looking to any other horses in this race dubs or does Tamara kind of push you away? Well, it's it's tough I think for me, you know, we like a good storyline and again We can only bet and handicap on what we have seen and Tamry has been very impressive with another big step forward Will be tough to beat so look there's a lot of ways to jump in and play the multi-race wages in the horse racing You know pick threes pick fours pick fives. They're essentially You know pick fours of four Lake Parley trying to pick the winners in four consecutive races That's the kind of race that I'd look at and say hey, let's just use a single so we can keep the ticket price down Let's go after Tamara Perfect three for three and that's how you find value But if I can't find a strong opinion going against I'll ride with the favorite because in horse racing They do win between 30 and 34 percent of the time Okay, so keep that in mind with Tamara See if you can get even money or somewhere close there on the on on Friday morning for that But for right now probably a stay away based on what dubs is seeing but dubs We got a lot of races coming up between a Friday and Saturday So looking elsewhere for this breeder's cup weekend any other horses you think might be undervalued for this week? Yeah, and there's after the classic. I think that's probably gonna be the race for me The breeders cup turf sprints we get out there on a turf course where I think the bigger prices will come through You look at this race traditionally and it has provided some of the big numbers And I'm looking towards a champion from last year caravall one of the girls taken on the boys went off at 42 43 to 1 so this was the biggest price of the two days there last year And I like the form coming into this one You know with there's so much recency bias on how horses on how athletes do coming into a big game to a big race But I look at the conditions there and I think caravall getting back on to a firm course a bit harder Underfoot is gonna suit so we put a line through those last two starts we turn it back to last year was in the midst of an Absolute winning spree. I think we get back to those winning ways here So for Brad Cox a six-year-old mare misdirectional was the last man trying to go back to back 2012 2013 I think we got a really good shot here with caravall and we will get a bit of a price as well So with the three wins this year, I'm putting a line through those last two I'm looking more towards that top gear that ability more so than past that recent form So caravall for me in the turf sprint on a four champions trying to go back to back I think she's got a really good chance. All right, caravall four to one on the morning line for that race that is a turf sprint as dubs mentioned and You know taking into account by context like you said taking to account the context I think that can get you some value there So I like that breakdown like that analysis and I like it overall dubs hearing you on the air here for today That is dubs Anderson make sure you check him out on Twitter and mr. Dubsey find his work and all the other fantastic work this week over at Fandall TV dubs I appreciate it have fun this week enjoy the racing and hopefully get you back on here again soon Hey, let's say we bring a couple of winners home plus 400 playing the horses the same as playing any other sport You can do them both in the Fandall sports book So I'm excited to invest the luck. Thank you dubs. Appreciate it. We'll talk to you again soon That is again at dubs Anderson find him on Twitter at mr. 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Hope is here visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 800-327- 5050 for 247 support in Massachusetts or call 1-800-770 hope and why or text hope and why in New York Let's dig in now to NFL week number nine outline where my model is showing value for this week Let's begin things with what I think is either the game of the week or the second best game of the week That is the bills at the Bengals right now The Bengals are two and a half point favorites. My model does show value in the bills in this game if you look at the look ahead line on this game the bills at that time before The Bengals took down the 49ers was two and a half the bills by two and a half And now they're two and a half point dogs now granted moves across zero aren't as significant as they would be if it were moving across three or something like that, but It's still a huge move and I get it because The Bengals look great in that game and after seeing that game I did manually boost the Bengals because There are numbers earlier on this year were kind of tainted by the joe burrow injury so I don't want that to overweigh what my model thinks about them and When I make that adjustment the Bengals are basically In line with where I had them preseason Some of the preseason prior there effectively where they were before But even with putting the Bengals back there I still can't get to this number. I understand that the bills defense is very banged up And they they're not what they once were and I think the Bengals Should be able to move the ball here as a result But this bill's offense is still cooking right now. They've looked really good recently I know they haven't put up like a ton of points 24 against a box is nothing to write home about but like The efficiency numbers the underlying numbers on josh alan are phenomenal. So I think this game Should be closer to a pick them. So I'll take the plus 136 in the bills I think that's a really good value to get here right now So the bills plus 136 in the money line first place I am going for this week other spread bet I like for week number nine is on the chargers. They are facing the new york jets on monday night football This is in east rutherford and chargers right now fandal sportsbook are minus three at minus 115 And I want to take the chargers here and they're a team that's been Disappointing for a very very long time and it's a bummer to see them underperform as much as they have but I just don't think that should translate to being just three point favorites over a Pretty poor jets offense the jets offensive line is very banged up right now which does put zack wilson under pressure more often and If you're the jets, I would not want wilson under pressure. That's that's the situation where the Rough features of zack wilson pop back up Even if we narrow the focus here and look at what the jets have done since they became less conservative with zack wilson They they've been putting him in A few or third and long situations more past attempts on favorable situations. It's a good shift But if we look at just those games wilson is still at negative point. Oh nine passing that expected points per drop back Again, that is number fires epa metric The league average 10 zero and point one it's been lower this year But regardless negative point. Oh nine is not a good number It is better than what it was before but still pretty rough For comparison if we look at the games for jesson herbert without mike williams He's at point one seven So from a passing offense perspective massive massive edge belongs to the chargers in this game the jets Pretty lucky to escape with the win against the giants in a game where the defense played great, but The offense could not move the football and that was against a In okay, giants defense But regardless, I do think that this is a good spot for the chargers minus three is minus from the 15 if andrel sports book I think that makes a lot of sense. So I will go with the chargers minus three Taking on the jets on monday night football Other two bets I like as of right now for this week are a couple of totals first one is in the giants taking on the raiders game That is a total 37 and a half right now. I like the over there for this game the over at 37 and a half is minus 110 and look at the giants, you know The defense Is playing better definitely to play pretty well on sunday against sack wilson But they didn't just trade letter williams too So a big piece in that interior the defensive line is now gone And they go to play indoors and that's a big difference for them as well With versus playing outdoors in the elements against the jets the raiders offense sucked last night They were a mess jimmy garoppolo could not complete a pass save his life It annoyed me to all end because I had the over in that game. It was awful hideous and that bad game will stick in our minds but Again decent matchup here for the raiders offense taking on the giants defense Sounds like daniel jones should be back for this game He said on up at adam's this morning that he is clear for contact and should be good to go for this weekend Barring any setbacks in practice now darin waller might not be able to go which is a bummer because it's a darin waller revenge game And that would stick and I don't think that waller will play in this game We should account for that for sure when trying to handicap it But that's accounted for in this number with it being as low as it is right now My model has this total at 40.8 So I think the over is the right way to go We're currently sitting at 37 and a half with minus 110 on the over right now So I will go with the over for the giants and raiders at 37 and a half at fan dual sportsbook Final total I like for this week is in the patriots and commanders game And the total right now is a 40 and a half that has been going up a bit because the commanders just traded away Both montez wet and chase young. So they've traded away good defensive players and The total has gone up. I think it's gone up too much and I want to take the under on this game and Typically when it's a total this low, you're not taking a lot of unders. Do you expect regression towards a mean? That's not the case here. Uh, the wind speeds currently at nine miles per hour Which does result in a small downgrade here But also like this Patriots offense is not an explosive offense to begin with and you now take away kendrick born Who is done for the year where they torn acl the commanders throw the football a ton What that does is it does keep the keep the clock from rolling and it does lead to more overs than under so like from a composition perspective The commanders right now should be kind of an over friendly team because our past every team With a bad defense is getting worse via the trades of montez sweat and chase young still The model knows that it knows their pace it knows their offensive efficiency It knows all those things and does still show value on the under I've got this number closer to 36, which is tough to do because it's hard to project an outlier in terms of totals But it's a game with wind. It's two non-efficient offenses and not the worst defenses on the planet I know the patriots have lost some key guys in christian Gonzalez and matthew judon They do get down for that in the model, but Even with all these things considered I do still think that the under is a way to go here under 40 and a half Is minus one ten at vandal sportsbook. I think there is value there So that's that like for week number nine patriots and commanders under 40 and a half minus 110 Raiders and giants over 37 and a half at minus 110 the chargers minus three at minus 115 and the bill's money line at plus 136 all over at vandal sportsbook We'll talk more about nfo week number nine on thursday with dr. Ed fang We'll also have him on tomorrow to break down college football In preview week number 10 there to wrap up for today though got to go back through last week's recommendations here on the show Starting with dr. Ed fang you can find him on twitter at the power rank and check them out at the power rank dot com Ed's favorite bit of the week on the college side of things was tennessee minus three and a half That closed at four so good movement there for ed and tennessee got the job done They won 33 27 to cover the three and a half there So win for ed once again on the college football side of things Instead of felt that was on the giants at plus three that was against the jets And that was before daniel jones ruled out kind of thought that would happen so that didn't impact the way we viewed this game and It pushed probably should have won that game Theron taylor got hurt They nearly won a regulation, but push regardless think that was kind of the worst it could have been for ed in that one I agree to them. I took that one as well So push for that one one on one week for ed again check them out on twitter at The power rank we had jj zek recent on to talk player props check out jj on twitter at late round qb at a late round dot com Check them out on the late round of fantasy football podcasts Well, and jj's had a great year with touchdown bats and another one on sunday That was jake furguson at plus 250 and furguson scored pretty much right away for the cowboys That's the second time this year that furguson has come through for jj So good call by jj getting exposure to the cowboys in a game where they went nuts and via jake furguson at plus 250 Other bets didn't hit those were brian robinson under 40 and a half rushing yards Didn't get much volume just 10 10 rush attempts, but finished with 59 yards You have christian kirk over 53 and a half receiving yards a lot of elements that play there with the the rain and the wind Kirk finished with 46 rushing or receiving yards there Other touchdown prop was devin singletary plus 260 now cj stroud had a goal lying rushing touchdown in this game So took away a chance there But singletary did keep the split backfield with demian pierce, which is a big part of why jj was on Singletary in that matchup. So the read on the situation was good for jj. She didn't quite get the results. So Nice job for jj hitting the jake furguson prop check him out on twitter at late round qb and find his work at late round Com we had ryan wins on last night to preview the lions and the raiders game. Check out ryan on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w Uh, didn't miss on the over in this game. We both like the over It was 46 and a half. It finished with 40 It's a very frustrating Number we had the over briefly with the correct Reynolds touchdown late But that got called back via penalty miss fuel goal A lot of red zone trips resulting in fuel goals is that a touchdowns jimmy garoppolo missing davante adams deep a couple of times It was a very annoying under to hit but uh did hit regardless ryan though made up for it Uh, he had sam laporta to get five plus resceptions at plus 124 A la porta finished eight receptions to easy but hit there ryan like jared got through a pick at plus 130 through a pick six. So that would hit as well He talked about josh reynolds over 35 and a half receiving yards Reynolds finished the 13 lost to fumble and now the lions today traded for donovan people's jones. So Getting some help in there to uh replace josh reynolds Maybe because james and williams also not fully ready. So make sense to the ad there for dpj going to detroit We both like chili mires anytime touchdown at plus 200 Uh mires did not score as they barely used the receivers in this game But ryan did have josh jacob's to score a touchdown even money Which he did so three hits for ryan all of which were at plus money plus 124 for laporta plus 130 for the golf pick And then even money for josh jacob's to score Last night is well fine ryan on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w welcome back with us on monday next week For me I had money liners spread bets on three separate teams all three had their quarterbacks get hurt during the game I had the ranz at plus 165 paired with ranz money line at plus 225 They would have lost without regardless of the staffer injuries. That's not why I lost that bet I lost that x is a bad bet. Um, so that's not an excuse there I had the giants plus three that wound up pushing I feel like that probably would have been a winner if to rod taylor had not gotten hurt And then there was the fiasco towards the end where the jets get the completion spot the ball Kick the field goal. Good job on them. Honestly for getting that done But the giants should not have let that happen So that was annoying as well and then at the stealers money line at plus 128 Kenny picky getting hurt again probably didn't influence that so Having three quarterbacks get hurt is not an actual excuse for losing the bets. It's more so just tilting As far as that goes and I mentioned before I had the raiders lions over 44 and a half I got that on tuesday a minus 115 got two lines of closing line or two points of closing line values went up during the week Didn't matter because of all the dumb stuff that happened. So Pretty frustrating week for me on the nfl side of things in nascar We did hit the winner in the betting guide. That was 12 to 1 and ryan blaney when that went up on tuesday Plus 950 when we talked here. I did still show value on that but not as big of a values It was when we talked about it on wednesday in the betting guide So hopefully you got that from the betting guide and ryan blaney to win Top 10 bets discussed here on the show where chase elliot minus 110 Alex bowman 2 to 1 and daniel swar is a plus 280 Swar has got caught up in someone else's wreck Bowman wreck 2 And elliot ran up front towards the end, but he didn't have no fuel So he was kind of flukelly running up there didn't really count as far as being strength Bo or elliot finished 17 So the blaney one kind of saved me from having a brutal week from a betting perspective overall Hopefully you got that be the betting guide betting guides go up wednesday or thursday I will say for listening right now. I do like ryan blaney to win the championship If you can get that number So do like blaney again for this week if you want to try to grab that before The betting guide goes up later on the switch one check quickly. What's the odds are a fandral sportsbook for blaney I got plus 285 elsewhere He's plus 250 a fandral not a great value, but still the one I would like most Probably not going to touch on that market in the betting guide for this week, but Dude, I did take blaney myself when I got him at plus 280 That is what we have here for today as mentioned We are back once again tomorrow and talk some college football week number 10 with dr Ed fain to get that and all of our podcasts as they are posted make sure you're subscribed to covering the spread Wherever you get your podcast and if you like what you hear leave us a five star rating on apple podcasts or over on spotify Big thank you once again to dubs anderson check them out on twitter I'm mr. Debsy find his work all throughout this week on fandral tv and tv g and check out all the good work in general On fandral tv for this week and every week If you got any questions for me, I am on twitter at jim sonnis You can also find me on threads at jim dot sonnis want to thank you all for tuning in forward today Good luck team with your bets across tuesday. We'll talk to you once again tomorrow to break down some college football This has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network