 We lived our lives full, but no fear of God, no fear of hell, no fear of anything. Hindu is not a religion, this is a godless land, no morality, no commandments. The moment you make your body and mind into a stepping stone, you will become a Hindu. This must happen to the world. Hindu is not a ism, Hindu is a land and over a period of time, Hindu became a civilization. Hindu never was an ism, nor is it today an ism. Well, because of political situations, power-tuzzles that happen among people, people will twist and turn whichever way they want, but the identity of Hindu is of the land. The land that lies between Himalayas and the Indusagra, which is the Indian Ocean, between the mountain ranges and the ocean, this land is Hindu. The people who lived here naturally became Hindus, so it got referred to as Hindustan, the land of Hindus. The land was Hindu, so people became Hindu because people became Hindu, the nation or all the nations which were there at that time in this region became collectively Hindustan. Like when we say European, it may be French, it may be Italian, it may be Spanish, it may be now Ukraine. We don't know who else will become European, Turkey is becoming European. So like that, different types of people, different kingdoms and empires during different times of history all got to refer to, all got referred to as Hindustan. A civilization is not an outcome of one belief or one teaching or it did not fall out of one book. Variety of things happened. In terms of geography, in terms of ethnicity, in terms of languages, in terms of culture, variety of things happened across this land. A variety which is quite unimaginable for most people, over nineteen thousand languages developed. Nineteen thousand languages just in Hindustan. That means there were that many cultures, that many types of people, that many kind of cookings. Yes, various things, a kaleidoscope, every which way you look at it, it's different. But what is it about? If human intelligence is freed from fear, guilt and some silly reward somewhere else, whether you call it heaven, paradise, swarga, whatever you call it, some silly rewards up there or fear of punishment or guilt, if these three things you remove from human mind, naturally human intelligence will seek. Essentially the idea of heaven or paradise or swarga is appealing only because they are infested with greed. What is here is not enough, something more out there, silly exaggerations of what you know here. If these three things are removed from human intelligence, human intelligence will naturally seek the ultimate nature of who we are. So in this search, this civilization encountered astronomy. Today everybody's got intellectual property rights, India is the only country which doesn't have intellectual property rights. Everything that's Indian or that belongs to this Hindustan has been stolen and used all over the world, everybody claiming it as their own. Well, because they had gunpowder, that's a lot of power, you know. So we encountered astronomy, we encountered mathematics. There wouldn't be mathematics in the world without this land and this civilization. No, are you all clapping? Oh, no mathematics in the school. No, that's not what I'm saying. If there is no mathematics, there is no science. All the many things that we are doing in the world today, many things we are enjoying in the world today in terms of technology would not exist if there is no complex mathematics, which we encountered in our pursuit, in our search, because we had no conclusions in our minds, we had no fear, nor were we infested with greed or guilt. We lived our lives full, but no fear of God, no fear of hell, no fear of anything, because we saw the most important thing is to seek, to know. So astronomy, mathematics, music, well, there are a variety of music, but if you pay attention, you will see the classical music that evolved in this land. In terms of complexity of its foundations, there is no other like it, this is not my opinion. The greatest musicians in the world will say this, when there is a complex foundation, what you build can be anything, there is no limit. If you do not have a complex enough foundation, what you build is minimal, what you can build is minimal. So there is a very complex understanding of mathematics, different aspects of it, particularly geometry, astronomy. This is the culture even six to seven thousand years ago, clearly, we are speaking about the planet being round and planet going around the sun, we did not believe that earth is the center of the universe. This came to us not because we were full of scientists in this country, this came to us because we were seekers. If you are genuinely… genuinely into science, you must be a seeker, you can't be a believer and be a scientist, simply not possible. Because belief means you've made conclusions about things that you have no clue about. All these things we encountered, we came across mathematics, music, astronomy, mysticism, many magical and mystical things, but we still pursued. Because our pursuit was not to find this and that which we think is useful to us, we want to find the truth about our existence, the nature of what this is. In this pursuit we pursued endlessly. As the seeking and the pursuit and the perception deepened and it became very profound, we found nothing. When we found nothing, we said, Shiva, then we found the basis of everything was this nothing. The greatest miracle in the universe is this, that everything comes out of nothing and goes back to nothing. Everything else, what you call as you and me, what you call as this planet, what you call as this solar system, what you call as this universe or galaxies or cosmos, these are all only manifestations. But we were not interested in the manifestations. We enjoy the manifestation, we appreciate the manifestation, but our interest is to know what is the nature of the source. We realized the source is actually not something, it is nothing. And it's not in one place, it's just everywhere. So we say, Shiva, that means that which is not. Well, people could not relate to it. So they were looking for a form. Then human beings who are in very profound pursuit, who realized the nature of the manifestation and its source because they realized that which is not. We called them Shiva. So the Shiva that you talk about today, that generally it's worshiped in this land, he doesn't need worship because he sits disinterested. He is not somebody who is going to be influenced by your praise or your offerings of this and that, he simply sits disinterested. This is why a more appropriate description of him is Adiyogi. Shiva means that which is not because that which is not cannot be seen, heard, smell, touched. One who realizes that, also we hold as Shiva because one who realizes that becomes the doorway for that. See, when you say my home, if you think of, oh, I'm going home, you're not think of all the rooms and bathroom and toilet and back door and kitchen. No, it's a front door which is your home. When you arrive, this is my home. You're pointing at the front door and saying this is my home. So the door is very important. So one who becomes the doorway for that which is not, we call him also Shiva. So this pursuit, what is the point? The point is this, if you know the nature of the source, if you have the time and inclination, you know the nature of everything. If you know something, you will know only something, but if you know nothing, then everything is possible. So this pursuit is the basis of this civilization. This is a land of seeking, not a land that believes this is a godless land. There is no the God anywhere. As I have told you many times, we know the technology of God making. Well, there are words like this, we say, call something Bhagawan. You must understand the Bhagawan. The word Bhagawan comes from the root word bhajj, which means that you look up to. That you revere. That which is glorious. So if you're human being or a tree or a mountain looks glorious to us, we say Bhagawan because it's worthy of my reverence. Anything that deeply impacts you becomes your Bhagawan. When we say Bhagawan, we're not talking about the God sitting up there in heaven. Who knows how to manage everything here? You know, if you look back at the history of this planet, you obviously know, God doesn't know how to manage things. Hello? Are you willing to hand over your life to God and say, do it the way you want? No. Things that are not in your hands, you're willing to give it to him. Things that are in your hands, your money. Throw it in front of the temple and go away, let me see. No. What you don't have, of course. Lot of people come to me also and say, Satguru, usir kurutruva satguru. Ayu, usir udhu venda pa. That means I want to… I'll give my life to you, Satguru, right now. Don't, don't hold it, hold it. If you hold it there and then give yourself, then I know how to use it. If you give it away, what do I do? So this is not that kind of civilization. This is a civilization of exploration and whichever way you explore, it is regarded well. You may explore in a very stable, proper manner or you may explore in freaky ways, whichever way, as long as you're seeking. In this culture, it's okay. There are very systematic disciplines in the country, in this land. At the same time, there are absolutely wild ways. There are agauris, there are tantric, there are a variety of people because nothing is a taboo as long as you're seeking, as long as your intent is to touch the core of life that you are. Knowing that, the core of life is not somewhere in the center of the galaxy. The core of life is in every life. Whether you're a man, woman, animal, even if you're an ant, the core of life is within you also. All you have to do is find it. All you have to do is find access to it. You don't have to invent it. You don't have to make it up. You just have to find access. Life cannot be happening without the source of life throbbing inside, otherwise it will not happen. So, today, human intellect is not yet but definitely far more active than what it used to be 500 years ago or 300 years ago or even 100 years ago. Becoming less influenced by the dogmas of the times. The dogma can be your religion, the dogma can be the current political ideology that's going about, the dogma can be some local philosophy. At different times, different things have ruled human beings. For the first time in the history of humanity, intellect, the human intellect is not as ruled by the dogmas of the place or the doctrines of the times as it has been in the past. I believe this is going to be much, much more in the next 15 to 25 years where human belief systems will become very thin. People only believe to the extent it's necessary. Already it is so. Hello? Only to the extent it's necessary. Rest is all in your hands. You don't trust anybody. Well, I'm not encouraging that but it's a good beginning that you understand. Somewhere you understand. Unless I handle this life well, it won't work. This means you understand my life is my karma. You're becoming a Hindu. So you must understand Hindu is not anism. Hindu is not a religion. Hindu is not a particular way of life as people are trying to define. Hindu is a land. Because of the land, people became Hindu. Because of the people, the civilization became Hindu. Because of the civilization, the nation became Hindustan. So this needs to be understood that if you release human intellect, as I said earlier, from the influence of fear, from the influence of guilt, from the influence of extreme greed, you will become a Hindu. Or Hindu, maybe in your mind, is the context is very small. It's a particular type of people. No, no. So let's put it this way. It is called sanathana dharma. The word sanathana literally means eternal. Dharma means not religion, dharma means the law. So the eternal law, what is the eternal law? They ask, we sit here, you and me are different. Well, they will bury me or burn me much earlier than you, all of you much younger to me. But even after hundred years, if they bury you, you also become the same thing that I have become. Now the aspiration for you to become what I have become, that's a different thing. But when everybody is put back, everybody becomes the same thing without any problem. So the realization that everything comes from the same thing, will it happen to you with death or now? That's a big difference. If you're aspiring that it should happen now, you are a sanathani. You're aspiring for your eternal nature. That means you are other sanathana dharma, not as a religion, not as a philosophy. You are in tune with the eternal laws. Only if you're in tune with the eternal laws, the limitations of this manifestation, the individual manifestation has many limitations. These limitations you will suffer endlessly. No matter how endowed you are, you still suffer. No matter what you become in your life, you will still suffer because you're identified with the manifestation. You are not searching for its source. You have not found access to the fundamental nature of its existence, which is its eternal nature. Now am I propounding, oh there is something eternal within you, you are a soul and this will happen, that will happen. No. I'm saying you understand, you gather the body and you shed the body. Once you realize this, there is enough intelligence in every damn head here to seek what is this about. Okay? I gather this and am it's going to go one day, what is this about? Because this is not unreal, this is true. Your existence is true. These days technology people are trying to look like sages with long hair, knotted dreadlocks, you know, they're all trying to look like sages. This is a good trend. They're trying to look like the Hindu sages of the past. So essentially, a totally godless, philosophiless immoral, immoral is not the word, amoral, no morality, no commandments, no God, no philosophy, what kind of lousy people will there be? That means you don't trust the intelligence of creation. You think creation will be good only if some fools manage it. No creation is good without management. It is just that once, as I said, if human intelligence is not encumbered with these imposed values of fear and guilt and greed which is encouraged all the time, naturally this will seek its eternal nature. So what you call as the Hindu civilization or better that we call it sanathana dharma is a consequence of fearless, guiltless, greedless human beings. So it is not because of Hindu way of life they became like that. Because they were like that, this is the consequence. This civilization is a consequence of that. But as all of us know in recent history, in this land when we say recent, we are saying thousand years ago, in recent history it has been ravaged like no other land. Probably most of you do not know because those who wrote our history books and textbooks, they wanted to be nice to you so they eliminated all the ugly parts of our history so that we may once again walk into similar situations. But the land has seen, the people have seen enormous atrocities, atrocities which are way bigger than anything that is normally talked about in the world. The greatest things that we talk about in the world is how Africa was subjugated by the Europeans and how Adolf Hitler did what he did in pre-World War II times and what happened in North America to the Native Americans. But what happened in this land, both in numbers and quality of torture much, much, much more. But this is the only land. After thousand years of extreme torture, we still retained our way of being. This is simply because of the way the entire thing was naturally structured because it was not a religion. There was no one head that if you cut that head off, everything will collapse. There was no one doctrine. There was no one book. If you burn it, everything will be gone because it was individual seeking. The invaders who came, they did everything possible. They killed all the leaders, religious teachers, they ravaged thousands of temples but they didn't know how to kill it because it was in everybody's hearts and minds. You cannot kill that one because, because it was not a philosophy that could be corrected. It was not a belief system that could be obliterated. It was a natural longing to know. There is no way to curtail that. As I said, I'm repeatedly saying this, if you free this mind of fear, greed and guilt, this will naturally seek its eternal nature. Because of thousands of years of establishing that kind of thing, doesn't matter how much torture, it still lived. It's the only land which has been invaded with the vengeance or with the force with which it has been invaded. Still retained its culture to a large extent. Damages happened but it retained because this is not the culture which is organized. It is an organized kind of chaos, intentional chaos. Because you can't destroy a chaos, you can destroy a system. Hello? You can destroy a system but you can't destroy a chaos. So it doesn't matter what they did, it survived. A lot of people are writing books today around the world. Many American and European writers, they're amazed how this culture survived. How did it survive? What is the basis? Where is the foundation for this? Foundation, that's why it survived. Because the foundation is in our evolution. The foundation is in the nature of our existence. The foundation is not in what we organized as human beings. It is not a church. It is not some kind of organization. It is not, there's one leader that if you kill him everything will collapse. Do what you want. You don't even know where it exists but it exists. So if we do this one thing, if we do this one thing in this generation that in the world, it's beginning to move that way but I would like to see it in my time. If we move the society, if you move the world's population in this direction, they are free of fear, they are free of guilt and they are free of greed. You will see Sanatana Dharma will sprout across the planet. This you must understand. Sanatana Dharma does not mean all of them will chant your mantra or all of them will do this. No, all of them will seek. That's all that matters. Which way they seek? We don't care. Hello? Hello? We don't care how they seek. As long as they're seeking their eternal nature, as long as they're seeking their ultimate possibility, we call them Sanatani because Sanatana does not mean a particular group of people. Sanatana means eternal nature. So what is Hinduism? There is no such thing. There is no ism. People are trying to make it into ism for survival purposes, unfortunately. But I don't fear survival. I only see a metamorphosis. Many people think I am not Hindu enough because I don't know any… I'm not doing any puja. I'm not doing any mantra. I'm not going here and there and doing what a Hindu is supposed to do. So what kind of a Hindu is he? Well, because I'm born in this land in terms of geography, I am a Hindu because my longing has always been to know the eternal nature of who we are. And because of that I am a Sanatani, not because I subscribe to any of their philosophies. I want to see every human being looks for that which is the ultimate nature of who we are. Then everybody is a Sanatani, but don't think they are converting to your religion because there is nothing to convert to. There is no ideology, there is no philosophy, there is no God, there is no God's army for you to convert and join. It's just that from its manifestations to its source, your attention has shifted from the manifestation to its source. This means you are a Sanatani because manifestations are always transient. It's like a footprint. It'll be there today, it'll be gone tomorrow, but the source is always there. So once your interest has shifted from the body to the source of what it is, you have become a Sanatani. You're seeking eternal nature. This must happen to the world, not as a religion, not as a philosophy, but as a natural longing to know beyond what is right now manifested because manifestations are many and fantastic. But if you get identified with the manifestation, then you will become so small that see, largely human beings don't even consider other lives as life. Only human is life. But now in that also, in 21st century we've come to a place where we're beginning to think men and women are two separate species. Hello? We don't think we are the same species anymore, we're different species because everything you have to say, both. But now there are many other species. I'm not saying this with any disregard for anybody. I'm just saying we are unnecessarily complicating a simple process of life. First of all, biology is a simple thing. Its purpose is very simple and limited. We don't have to complicate the biology. See when we say you are a Sanatani, this does not mean you're disregarding the biology or the psychology of a human being. We are not going away from it. We want to be above it, that's all. Is it worthwhile? We are not talking about discarding it. We are not talking about moving away from it. We want to be above it, so that we can use our biology and our psychology the way we want. That our biology doesn't uses up. But for most human beings, their biological needs and psychological needs are occupying the whole time of their life, isn't it? They don't get to settle their biology or psychology for their entire life. If they live to be hundred, they're still desperately doing the same things. So Sanatana means this, that you're above the manifestation of physiological and psychological manifestations that we have. And that goes for every manifestation. But your biggest blocks are your own body and your own mind. If I take you to a place, let's say we took you to the greatest, most sacred place in the universe, there are steps. But you miss understood steps as blocks. What to do? Tragedy, you are, isn't it? Hello? Right now, that's all that's happened. This body, this mind, this level of cerebral capability, these emotions, these energies, this chemistry, these are all stepping stones. But you're right now experiencing them as blocks in your life. They're blocking you completely. Life is getting mortgaged just to settle physiological needs and psychological needs. You can call it what you want. You can call it religion, you can call it family, you can call it marriage, you can call it whatever. But essentially life is getting mortgaged just to settle physiological and psychological needs. These are stepping stones upon which you should stand and climb and go beyond. But unfortunately they have become sinking sands. So the moment you make your body and mind into a stepping stone and stand above that, you are a sanathani.