 It's a unique hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this, we're gonna bring it to the table, boss talk. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Mr. Jamaica, how you doing? I'm awesome. David, I'm awesome, man. Awesome. Uh, okay. Hey, man, we out here in Las Vegas, man, and man, people, God been blessing the platform today, man. I got a beautiful, two beautiful women in front of me. You know, this is how I do it. You know, when I get down, yeah, yeah, God bless me with two. It's been like that for years, I don't know what it is. Check it, man. Check it, man. You've got a real one. Miss Tau is in the building, man, how you doing? Hey, I'm good, I'm blessed, thank y'all for having me, boss talk. Man, no, thank you for coming, man. Yeah, shout out to Payback, too. Say, man, Payback was like, you gotta get on this platform, man. I was like, really? And then he called it, didn't he? Uh-huh. I couldn't hear it, because I was over here doing something else. I was talking, he was trying to make sure that I was here. Yeah, yeah, he's going down, man. Payback, you already know my pedigree, you know what I'm saying? Wow, man. So how you been? I've been blessed, you know what I'm saying? I've been doing lovely radio, also I got a, you know, shout out, you know, I have my own radio show. Well, let's talk about it. Let's go back, let's go back. I want to know how you ended up in Vegas, so let's go back, let's go back and come up. Let's go back. Let's go back as far back as you want to go. Yeah, I want to get back all the way back to when you started, you know, getting into entertainment and all that and where you come from, you're from Chicago. Yeah. Okay, come on with it. Let me hear this. All right, Shotown, you know what I'm saying? I was born, you know, South Side, Chicago, and my mom moved to Inglewood, California when I was young, you know what I'm saying? So I went to school pretty much in California. Wow. You know what I'm saying? I was born and family's still there in Chicago and everything, dad and everything. But it's like, when she was ready to move, it was that time for me to see her. How old did you say again? I was 11. 11, okay. I was a little kid, you know what I'm saying? West Side, South Side. Okay. Okay. And we still repping dad because that's where my attitude comes from, you know what I'm saying? I'm West Coast when it comes to the music. When it comes to the business, I'm all Shotown, you know what I'm saying? Because it's real in the field out here, you know, when it comes to being a woman. So, I mean, my first devil in dad into the music was, you know, I worked with Ronnie DeVoe. Okay. That's when my first song got dead. And we did a song called Lifestyler, Rough and Sexy. He's basically doing... You talking about running DeVoe? From a new edition? Yeah, that's what I'm tripping on. How is it working with you? How did she say that? Damn, like it was nothing, you know what I'm saying? You don't just skate back, man. I'm a skate past and I work with Run DeVoe. No, it looks so. When you work with Run DeVoe. Listen, listen. When the first people that heard me even spit a couple of lines, you know what I'm saying? They was running around trying to find me management. You always know you could spit even as a young child at 11? I always tell... I always say this. My mom told me after I became this toy, I was singing mini-rippin' in Shaka Con before I could talk. I didn't talk to my mom and them and I could talk until maybe two or three. Like I could talk but I have my sister running errands. At two or three? At two. Like I was one of the baby kids for real. Like I literally didn't say shit to my mom but I was singing. So she told me one of those stories. So I felt like after she told me, I was like, that ain't no wonder. Always I'm cleaning up. I got melodies. I can write songs all day. You know what I'm saying? And so when I did the song with Ronnie, it was like, okay. I get in the studio and I hear my voice in the headphones. I'm like, oh my God, this is going down. So the producer was like, oh my God, I love your voice. Wow. So just from that inspiration, that one song with him, let me know I need to keep going. Wow. You know what I'm saying? So when I got the call from K-Mac from, you know, well I did militia as well. But they don't own nothing. We don't own that shit. Okay. That's my first step in the game with a gold album. You tell me? Mm-hmm. With an all male group. That's why I'm an MC. You feel me? Yeah. That's why I do what I do. Because I already went through the process. But when you started at a young age, because that's one thing, a lot of people, they jump into the industry because they're so excited and they have the love for music. Yeah. But they don't know the business side. They don't have anybody who can put them on their wings and say, okay, don't sign here. Don't do this. This is what you need to do to protect yourself. You need to get a lawyer. You just so excited when you jump in that you just jump in. I wasn't excited about anything. You wasn't? No. That's why I don't have a lot of people. That's why people, they don't know that, you know, different things that I do. Mm-hmm. Because I'm not, I've never been star struck and I'm not a groupie. Mm-hmm. So when I take care of business, I bounce. Because I'm blessed to have a great family to share all my greatness with and all my goals and all my stuff with. So I don't go online and be like, this what happened to me? This what happened here? You don't see everything? No. If you're part of my life, you'll know. So starting out, you had all your stuff straight? I was pretty much looked at like a female that could, you know, do a lot of things. I had my management. I learned a lot. You know what I'm saying? I went through a lot of things as a female artist, which made me eliminate people. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? And I had a great attorney from the beginning. So that's how I got my, when I thought I did, you can do it. Because I'm on, you can do it with Ice Cube. Right. I'm a part owner of this song. Oh. That's 20 years old. You know what I'm saying? Okay. So that's what I'm saying. By the time I got a record deal with Universal, I already was part owner of a hit that was going to be here forever. Mm-hmm. Okay. So just by that, they was like, oh, she's too bougie. She used her. Oh, but it was sitting her back all. Wow. You know what I'm saying? So I felt that from there. Right. But guess what I have to have? I have to be executive producer of this first album. I have to have perks. So when I sit back and figure out what the fuck they did to me, I won't be in the negative. Mm-hmm. I won't be lost. Because my producers was like, hey, you put this album together. Wow. You know what I'm saying? My manager came in and was like talking to the label separate. This is disrespect for any woman who brings in men to take care of business in our, you know, career. And you go in and say, hey, I need to be executive producer. So I can get credits on this album, but she didn't talk to me. And you ain't been to one studio session. You don't write shit. You don't do nothing. So why am I going to play this game with people who are thirsty and starving and can't really win with the artist? Right. So that was my example before the internet came. Yeah. Because we've met so many female artists who say that, and they're trying to make it work. Some of them have had hits. But they said it's so hard being in the industry as a female, especially because people who are above you, who could help you, they're trying to, you know, hit on you. They're not trying to, you know, help you. That's gonna happen. God bless you with good DNA. But they were like, okay, in order for you to get this, you got to do this. Okay. So what is it that you need to get a song done? See, you need to go be an engineer. You need to go sit down and figure out how to work the equipment. You need to go figure out how to do the registration because they'll get all your money if you don't know how to put your songs in BMI or ASCAP. So these are things that wasn't taught, but then it was when I paid attention. You know what I'm saying? So then I had to take responsibility for my own life and my own career at the end of the day and be like, hey, they don't owe me nothing. I did an album with Universal. Shit, I got to pay release. There's a lot of artists as superstars right now. They still stuck. So God didn't play with me with this music. Wow. I think nobody's superstars. Go do this. Go do that. I want to do it. I want to do it. Let me break in here. You can do it. Put your back into it. Okay. So I know you and him worked this song together. Ice Cube. So how did y'all come up with the whole, how did this happen? Give us a break. Man, I love it. It's timeless. This work, you can listen to it and every time it's great. It sounds great. Okay. That's something you performed. Let me stop you. In Atlanta. I was on the 29th. Oh. It was my shoulder 31st. Let's do it again. I just did. I didn't want to just put it. I want to make sure they know. They know. Okay. Let's talk about it. How did the process go? Okay. I met Ice Cube before. I mean, right after I did Burn, we was in the studio. Me and Mr. Tan from Baby Boy. That's one of my other partners. That's one of my favorite movies. Right. And you know, so me and Mr. Tan, he's also, you know, the actor in the movie as well. We was like, okay, let's play our music for Cube. You know, it was like one of those West Coast things where we had a meeting with him from Terry Carter, which RIP was one of my good friends. And he was like, Miss Twa, I promise, I don't know what I'm going to do with you. I'm going to give you a Cube number. I'm going to give you Mac number. So Mac from Inglewood, like me, so I pushed that number aside and I want to go talk to Cube. Let's go see what Cube talked about. And so we bought though. It wasn't no promises made, but it was just that good West Coast going back and forth with the music. So after I did burn, came back from the comrades because he's a West Coast group. He was like, damn, Miss Twa, I had to get your connect. So me and him connect out of all of the people on the West Coast. I'm not giving my number out to everybody. You feel me? But this one rapper that I always see at everything, me and him exchange numbers and he called me to a Cube needs you to get on this hook. And I'm like, who was he came back from the. Okay. Yeah, he worked with the football league. Okay. So he's like, I'm like, where y'all at? He's like, we in Hollywood. I said, all right, well come get me. So then he like, all right, where you at? I'm in Inglewood because I need to pull up with these niggas. I'm not walking to no studio. You know what I'm saying by myself. So he's like, all right. So I'm like, okay, you know, he come get me and everything we walk in. It's the studio is dumb. There's so many people in there. I'm just like, whatever, because I block people out anyway and go do my job. And so Cube was like, yeah, um, you know, this, this is what we doing. And I was like, all right. Hit the blunt. Went in the booth, did the shit. And I was ready to go. You know what I'm saying? Cause I don't really like hanging. I don't know these people. I know Cube. I know a couple of people, but the producer actually was standing. You said, you said that so fast. When the booth made it happen. How fast you like that? Yeah. Is it one take? Oh yeah. I'm one take. I'm serious about this. Okay. I'm serious about this voice. Cube was like, I like your voice. That's dope. You know, these lines is going back and forth with a male and male and female on the track. Yeah. You guys got dope voices. It's no way you can go wrong. And the chemistry, the chemistry has to be there too. Yeah. It's no way you can go wrong with something that's the track is so full of positive energy. Okay. But when you working with somebody does, how much does the chemistry have to do even when the voices are great? Do you have to have a vibe with a person to be able to work with them? Yeah. I mean, when I bagged out with him a couple of years before that, I got my feel already. Okay. And I already knew I was like, all right, we're going to go in the studio. And, you know, I was invited on an incredible song. A couple of weeks later, I heard it was a single. You know what I'm saying? So I already was in contact with my attorney and things like, you know, they spelled my name wrong. Like you said, what I go through, they spell it in my S.S. They have to get that shit, right? You know what I'm saying? But who am I? They going to spell it wrong right now. You feel me? You know what this bitch keeps telling us to do stuff. I won't try to get my name right because he better know it. They thought I was Lil' Kim. You know what I'm saying? They ain't giving me no credit. You feel me on the smoke? Wow. They tried to dirty back me and say I was gossiping. So this is a lot of shit that somebody has to go through when you're in a business and you're on an incredible song. When you say somebody or it's just females have to go through this stuff. No. Males go through it too. Okay. Males get accused of a lot of shit too. Especially on the road. We're not going to act like women are always the ones. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm just a few that don't care about how y'all perceive me after I do what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying? To ignore you. Because now I'm going to go against the grain. Every time you ask me to do something a certain way I'm going to kind of go against the grain a little bit because I know somebody got an agenda. Because you always hear about the females. Maybe because the females are the ones who are always complaining and saying stuff like that about the industry. We cost a lot of money. Now if you invest in your own money to keep yourself fly then it don't take them all day to go take care of business for you. You'll have more work done if you came half way prepared as women. You know what I'm saying? Don't go to your event and then you need everything done. Your hair washed. You need full makeup. You need somebody to dress you. You got to play a position in your business. This is my business. So I have to make sure I look good before somebody else try to think they can make me look good. And you are all around artists. You talk about being a female in an industry and some females what they need to do is know how to do and be the engineer and know how to do this. Now how many things in this industry do you know how to do? Okay well first of all learn how to write. Be a writer and learn how to own it by registering my music when I became an artist. I started with BMI long before somebody was like you get a hit you gonna make money for the rest of your life. That's all somebody had to tell me one time and I believed it. That's the most honest shit that somebody ever told me in this business and it was true right. So when I first started getting my first checks from you can do it. They were small. But even my mom didn't understand that I can get paid for this and I'm not working for people. I done did this job and did that. I should trade. I gotta trade. You know what I'm saying? I'm a licensed massage therapist. I know how to do some shit. You feel me? Because even my mom is very independent with all of these kids. That's where you got it from. Of course. And my dad is a poet. That's where the music part came from. Yeah he writes poetry and books and stuff. So it's like I needed something else because I'm just determined. If I'm sitting still too long I get worried, busy, you know. So you can engineer. Can you make beats? Can you do produce? Well see me when I make beats because I am a part of the producing. You know what I'm saying? When I come up with the song first and the producer has to go behind me and make the beat, I make that track. So yeah, we are, we producing around. I produce all albums. I'm just the writer on all of the projects but as far as what I want to do, how I want to do it, my producers are phenomenal. I love that. You are absolutely wonderfully amazing. You know what I'm talking about? Let's get to it, man. You know, just to be able to go into those settings with those males, because I felt you could be a mentor to so many different young ladies. And I am. I'm talking about what I know. I ain't talking about what you know, hell. You're doing them already. Send them your way. I can't help them. All your stories, man. I can give you so many different stories that we hear from these young females. And they're talented. And they're talented, but they go into these situations and they don't know how to handle themselves. I even had an artist on my label, female artist, reggae artist, and she disappointed the shit out of me because I was sitting there with my first meeting with her. I told her, listen, this is my computer. We at home. We can do as many songs as we want to do, right? But I don't want to sit here and do this shit for you. I just want you to learn how to do it so you can be a boss. So when you leave this motherfucker, you can do it by yourself. Hey. And what did she do? She just started going live on me. Ms. Toy Game, Ms. Toy Fuck-Up Lippin'. I swear to God. I was like, you know what? You gave her something real. Listen, people want it overnight. I can't give it to you overnight. If you come in my studio, I got to pick you up. It's my assistant. She getting off work. We work. We work your women. We take care of girls. We got to pick you up. We don't got kids over here. I got to pick you up. I got to feed you. I got to smoke weed with you and write the songs for you. My producers already gave us the truck. What the fuck are you doing? Will you try to tell me something and not tell you the real and it hurts your feelings when I absolutely told you in the beginning, I am not a worker. I am a boss and I will show you how to do this before I do this shit for you every day. I don't know how I'm going to feel next week doing this shit for you. If you're not contributing, you don't contribute for a long time and then you blame somebody else. That's going to be your pattern in this business. Right. So your pattern can go on past me. You can tell everybody what you want. But the next person you fuck with, I bet you do the same thing too. Exactly. So 10 people later after me, that's what's been happening to her. And I still got the 20 songs I wrote. So let's play, you know, for real in this game, like the labels play in a game, but are the artists showing up on time? Yeah. Are the artists actually contributing to their career? To their career. By writing the music that needs to be heard on the radio instead of just ratchet music, they think everybody want to hear. But the blessing part of it to me is the fact that you learn that's about the person early on in the game. Oh, yeah. Before I even released music on my label, I had my albums ready. So guess what? Miss Toye been dropping. See, I had a series and it's still available everywhere, y'all. I am a warrior. So when I got my own label, I said, you know what? This is my whole thing. So now my whole theme, I have a warrior movement that's been going on since 2014. I put out two albums in one year on my label after people disrespected me. And I've been going ever since. So I mean, I got a slew of music. They don't even know what all I got yet. You know what I'm saying? Until they catch up. But I'm not going to wait for nobody to catch up. They still listen until you can do it and you pay me. So I still can invest in myself. And show up, you know? Let me ask you, are you going to tell me how you ended up in Las Vegas ever? And are you going to tell me anything about basically was it a situation in California? I'll go back number forward to that. But I want to ask you this. When you was in Cali, was there some opportunity to open up to you that you like, dang, I wish I had took that opportunity? Or I could have worked with this person, but I went this way and this happened? No, not really, because I feel like the people I work with, I work with Jimmy Jammentary Lewis. I work with George Clinton. Drop it. Well, I just worked with Davin out here and did a video with him from Jodesy. Drop it. Who the hell can work with somebody in here? Yeah, of course. Y'all don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Y'all are listening to this 2021. Who the fuck can do this? That's dope. Just, I mean, and I ended up out here, because I was in my studio at home. I have Lovely Radio, where I've had Carl Thomas on my show. Wow. I've had, you know what I'm saying, some great entrepreneurs. So Lovely Radio, what is that? Is it on the radio? Sreaker.com, yeah, MissToyMusic.com. You can always catch me every Thursday. Oh, what? A Thursday for Tom. 7 p.m. Pacific Standard Time. I'm just there dropping game and jewels to the artists that love bugging me in my DM time. I'm like, listen to this. Send it to the goddamn show. You might be heard. I don't listen to that shit in my DM. I don't know what y'all send to me. That's dope though, that they have a outlet that they can reach out to where someone's experienced. Absolutely. And don't mind giving them a way out or giving them some, just some advice on how you can do it, how you can be successful. That's what we can do. We can do it, right? Man, what a y'all again, girl. You can do it. She don't like to, she didn't want the East Village, and I'm sorry. I didn't disrespect your call. Oh, wait a minute. Thank you so much. Thank you. Sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, but I will. You know what I'm saying? What's your Jamaican name? No. No. No. And my Jamaican friend over there. Oh, man. So, you know, I just say, when you came to Vegas, you know, you come up here, you own the crap table most of the time. You're out here with all these, it's a lot of women out here, ladies of the night. I've seen them. I've been coming out here for years. I used to live out here, but I'm just going to be honest with you, how did you adapt in Las Vegas? Living here, because living here is two different things. See, y'all telling all my motherfuckin' business. They know my studio is here and I got the label here. I don't tell y'all motherfuckin' where I lay my head now. Shit. I'm from LA. You tell people all that shit. But I just wanted to have multiple places, too. You know what I'm saying? To be able to do what I do in my environment before I came out this way before the pandemic. Mike City, who produced Sunshine Anderson, Carl Thomas, Brandy, you know, long history and he also was a producer on my album when I was on Universal. Okay. He did the song Worker Twist with me in E40 and another joint. But he wanted to get together and put an album together. Okay. And said, you know, let's put some music in the library. Let's do a clean version. Let's do a dirty version. Let's do an instrumental and just put it in the library so we can sync up on some of these movies and commercials and stuff. So I'm like, I already know it's January. I'm ready to move. You know what I'm saying? You know, taking care of a few things. And so when he gave me this opportunity now in the midst of me doing all the things that I have to do before I leave, now I'm about to do a whole new album. Wow. So, you know, we roll in doing everything we got to do. I'm in my phone listening to the songs in the car, writing, you know. And so City said, yeah, so I want to do this album in two days. I want to have, you know, everything done and turned in so I can put all the stuff in the system so that when the next drop come, we can have the music already in there. Wow. It's a big problem, City. So I get to work, work. Yeah. So when it's the first session, you know, I do, I think eight songs. Wow. I do three of the songs that first night and then I finish the rest of them into the second section. City like, man, this is crazy. You know what I'm saying? We got everything turned in. And then before that, another producer of mine, we have a song that we did and we do the same thing. It makes it on All American. Wow. You know, and so I'm like, this is the top number one, you know, showing the country at the time, you know, and I'm like, hey, I'm an All American. I need to really put some stuff in this album. I know we're going to get picked up. So no sooner than we drop that album, Woke, Hulu, another track from Mike City's album. You know what I'm saying? So my shit is in movies where everybody on stage just trying to mess around and play these games. I'm in these movies. Yes, awesome. My producers is making shit happen. Awesome. We can sing, you know. So this time it's like now, I wasn't at my studio yet. You know what I'm saying? So I had to go to Mike City Studio, get in the studio, drop those songs. So my thing was in the next five or six months, I need to be at home in my own studio. So once he asked me this again or any of my other producers, I'll be ready. You know what I'm saying? So I'm calling around everywhere. I'm like, so I need to get my studio what I need. I need it. You know what I'm saying? So I get everything together. So now I've been dropped all kinds of songs. Dropped about 40 songs last year. Wow. Other albums, singles, features and everything. So this year city like, you know what? He just called me the other day. Shit. It was last month. It's the other day to me because it was the end of the month and he was like, let's do some more. So I just finished a new album called, you know, HBIC. HBIC. Boston Charge. Work. And that's seven songs that are going to come out September 10th. Wow. That's some real Boston talk, right? I know because when he said Boston talk. Boston charge. We might need to put it on a hook somewhere. Introduction. I already thought about it. I'm going to make y'all a song too. Man. That would be so dope. Payback should have told y'all. Say, man. I'm already on it. The person that you heard on there, that's Exo Music. She's out of Dallas, but she's so dope. Absolutely. Absolutely wise. Oh, no. Y'all keep her too. No, no. We got a few. We got a few. My boy came from Florida and he hit us like that. Oh, yeah. With some boss toe. No. You're born in Florida, but you live in Atlanta. So we got some songs. Exactly. Our lovely radio got a couple of joints too. Oh, yeah. So you got to have a talk. I need that. I got a theme song. Man, I'm coming to see you. I'm going to bless you too. You ain't going to just bless me. Believe that. I'm coming at you. That's the way we get out. Yeah, because I have some incredible people that we could talk about on our show. And just some of the stuff that y'all learn. I know y'all get a lot of emails and feedback from some of the stuff. I know you're going to get some feedback from me because I don't get to hear from me often. Man, that's true. And we just started doing this in January. Six months, man. When people look at what we do and have the quality and everything, they're like, nah, y'all really been doing this? And we've been dropping, we have over 200 episodes from January. That's a lot of work. No, that's work. And let me tell you, you know how many he hasn't released yet and he's still working. Stop writing, but don't put that out there. See. Some of them may not come out. They looking for the interviews. Oh, yeah. I like them, man. I love them actually. We do good work. I think like talking to people like you, they, you know, it's just, I just don't want to, I want them to think I'm not going to put these stuff out. No, we're going to put it out. No, that's content, y'all. Check this out. You got content later. You never talk on the right day. I'm kind of romantic with it. I ain't going to lie. I like to put it out. You know, I like to put it out when I want to put it out. Let them put it out when I want to do that. I love all the people. Look up and see yourself and be like, That's me. That's the right time. But so Vegas life. Is it fastest people think it is? Like just being out here all the time, frequent in the city. Is this going to be on? They don't hear this right. I don't fuck with these people. I don't. I'm from LA, Chicago. Like I told you, I tried to LA and go kick it with my people. Wow. It's too hot. I'm in the AC. It is hot out here. I came here to work. I came here to work. I got a parent here, payback here. We did a couple of moves and shit. That's when they're going to see me doing stuff. Look at this opportunity to write without no distractions. Work with no distractions. Be at peace. Cook. Chill. Be in my theater. Chill and be a person. Because all of these years of hustling or working and doing all of this for other people, I don't have to do that no more. And it's not far from home. Oh no. Shit, I just left. It's right up the street. I just came from Atlanta and I just came from LA. Literally. Days ago. Monday. Wow. I make a move. Entertainment. It's G.O. Getting opportunities. Giving opportunities. That's my label. I like that. I go. I stay on the go. I'm always doing something like my new single. Always into something. Featuring Jackie Badd. I'm shooting my video here on the 21st of this month. Wow. Because you always into something. I'm always into something. Got it. Got it. Got it. It was a savvy answer right there. Always into something. I'm serious. The name Miss Toy. Where is it? Is that always been your name Miss Toy? Or did you start out with another? You know a lot of people change your name over the years. My name is. Okay. When I was little. My mom didn't confuse me. I thought my name was Toy. T.O.I. Right. It is. But I have Keon attached to it. So when I was 13. I was like. Lady. Who the hell is this? I've been telling everybody my name. So. Toy Keon. And I said. Okay. I love it. Let me make up a signature. So in high school after I got my name. I had my little doctor's little. I have a little superstar signature. Before I was a superstar. Doctor's scribble. The scribble. I had a whole scribble in high school. Uh huh. Not even knowing I was going to be somebody's celebrity. I don't even care about that. But I already was practicing. Uh huh. But Miss Toy came from. You know. Me and Miss T.O.I. Because Miss T.O.I. He wanted this name. His name is O.L.I. But he was like Tangerine. Or something was going on with his name. T.O.I. And so I'm. They looking at me like. I'm not going to be nobody else but Miss Toy. I'm sorry. I can't be nobody else in this rap shit. I'm just spitting some real rap shit. And when I finish doing that shit. I'm going to talk some real rap shit. So I can't have no made-up name. I like the Miss Toy. I'm just going to sign that toy key on them. Checks. And that Miss Toy is just what it is. And I love that because a lot of women were like. You know what? Your name. It represents a lot of respect. And most people probably didn't get it. You know what I mean? In the beginning like. I don't want respect just. When y'all knew I blew up. I wanted throughout my whole life. I want my flowers all the way through. My grandmother is 92 years old. They still have her here. I have her here. And I've just seen her in Atlanta. You are blessed. So when I tell you I have a huge following in family already. Besides the music people. I already have that. So a lot of people distance from their families. They don't know their family. They don't know where they come from. They don't know how precious having your elders and people give you jewels along the way. I wasn't perfect shit. I got expelled from school. I dropped. You know what I'm saying? I knocked some people out. This and stuff. Straight gangster. But yeah. How you know me? You know what I mean? Do you know me? Oh no. I know you get to it. You know what I mean? I wanted to change. Because I wanted to make my mom happy. I wanted her conversation about me to be different. You know. It was always. What's the way doing? What's she been doing? What bad ass way doing now? You know. And it was just kind of like. You got siblings? Yes. So how many are you the next one? I'm the second oldest of six. My dad also has three other daughters. So your mama gave birth to six kids? My mom gave birth to four. And then I got siblings that came with my pops. Oh, I thought it was an excuse. My daddy was a Pisces. And he got the real of the daughters. Now we can start the video. You can start the video now. Let me ask you this. Do you, when the music changed. Because you've seen it. You was in it when it was just the CDs. And you know. And it transformed into the digital world. You know. And streaming became a thing. You know, ringtone before that. How did you adjust and how do you like where it's at? I just did by getting consultation on how to be an engineer. Because everybody's still going to make money recording. And though I wasn't recording other people for money. I started to learn how to do it for myself. And so when that transition happened. I had people around me that wasn't believing into the new system. And plus already was getting checks. They don't. They just amateur rappers. They don't know what the fuck going on. So it burned a lot of bridges. Because new shit hurts people. They don't want change. But it creates opportunity at the same time. But I am very optimistic about things that's happening. Especially if I'm aware of it. Like my mom used to work for AT&T, SBC, all it. You know what I'm saying? Pacific bail. Every transition the phone company did. My mom worked for her. She was a manager. So technology always been a part of my family. Wow. So you did adjust and you adjusted. I mean, are you on Instagram and all that? Doing anything? Absolutely. Yeah. Are you engaged when your last post? I don't have to post as much. You know, I have a squad that keep me so full of everywhere and everywhere that they think those are my pages. That's good. So I'm kind of how they would when it comes to. It's the same thing. I just went live earlier before I came here. You know what I'm saying? They saw me on live earlier because when I'm about to do something, I kind of get more friendly with Instagram and Facebook, like my Facebook music page, you know, finally catching up on to the numbers where I can get paid. And those are things that matter to me. Yeah. If I'm on there and I'm able to monetize because I own my music. Exactly. And that's why the fuck I'm going there. That's why. That's why I was asking about it. Hell yeah. Because you got to get on there. I mean, you know, there's so many opportunities in that as well. Oh, yeah. We just have to be privy of it. You know what I mean? They want to see you. They want to know what's going on. They don't see me. You know what I'm saying? You know that they going to see you. But you know what I love about the live nowadays? Because for me personally, what kills my relationship with any artist is that I love your music and I listen to it like crazy. But when I meet you, your attitude sucks. Yeah. All of a sudden? No, not you. No, I love missing people like that too. All of a sudden, I don't want to listen to you anymore. I don't want to deal with you. And I'm like, why are you even in this business? You know you have to deal with your fans. But I love live because you can tell the ones who are like that because they don't hardly go on live. Because you can't hide that personality on live. Yeah, you can't. But if you don't like yourself and me and you, you can go on live, you can hang out, you know, you can have fun because you smile a lot. People love you. You love God. All of the good stuff. You know what I'm saying? They want to see beauty. You know what I'm saying? They want to see something. Like I'm goofy, so. Yeah, oh yeah. They going to see me smoking weed and all kind of shit. You know what I'm saying? I don't give a shit. So top three artists of all terms, any genre? No. Number one, top three artists. We got to have them. You got to tell Prince. I photo Tupac. He ain't that quick. And Nipsey now. Wow. Because that business sense that he did, you know, it's so real to me. So you. Payback said Prince as well, but he did Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. Then Prince. And who was his third again? You said Tupac. Yeah. Number one. I love her. I love her. I met him. He was getting undressed. I knew you. Yeah, I knew it. I met him in person before he died and I told him I was coming and he was like, I'm going to look out for you. But then he died. They took him away. Wow. So I started working harder. Every producer I worked with. Damn near work with Tupac. And they was like, damn, fuck you, right? Like you just knock out shit like Tupac. Wow. I love him. You know, I hate to use that reference, but I really respect how he kind of raised me as far as I had sounds in my car around that age when Tupac was real popular. So every line that he was spitting now that I'm an artist, I feel that. You know what I'm saying? I feel like he trained me. Wow. And no other artist really or producer have trained me. I work with Dr. Dre as well, too, though. Wow. How was that, though? No, let me get it. Yeah, I need to know. How was that? No, I come for Dr. Dre. I don't care what y'all. I said, man, you got a billion dollars off right at. He can slap your wife right now. Oh, hell no. I ain't gonna do all that. No, they're gonna get it. I know, I know. That's a problem. It was cool. Actually, that song, I just want to fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a girl version, Dr. Dre. Wow. That she haven't never released. That the fans would love to hear. Wow. Me, yo, yo, truth hurts. We're all on that song. And he put it up. He's chefed it. He's chefed that bitch. That's why I wasn't ever his artist. I wasn't ever Ice Keep artist. I wasn't ever Mac-Teen artist. Wow. I'm all... Yeah, because you could control your narrative. Absolutely. Tell them what they probably do. They got baby mamas. They got baby mamas with artist they fuck with. Like, I just, I'm just not into that crazy ass shit. But why don't they have all the music and show fit for it? What are they gonna do with it? Why not release it? I don't know. I don't know. Shit. Maybe his ex-wife might find it later. You know, that's a, that's a trip because what you said, you know, they, they do have those encounters with the people that they are in a act with. And when you are stern and you step up and say, hey, I'm gonna do this business and that's it. They don't want to see you get that bag after that. After that rejection. You take your ass. Yo, goddamn ass. That's the truth. I'm telling you. I know what's going on. You need to find your own way. So, shit. But when you tell it to you later. But when you tell it to you, you can just keep going. Yeah. I was thankful that I turned down. No. No. So, how was it working? And because we can talk about that. How was it working in the studio with Dre? Oh, shit. There was a lot of people in there, you know. It's always a lot of people. I like working in chaos a little bit sometime. It kind of makes me, you know, like it drives me to be greater. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? It's like, who the fuck is in here? Ain't no telling. And I know they don't work like me. You know what I'm saying? So, we're getting a booth. And, you know, Dre, like, yeah, do the line. Like, you know, he, you know, I want to do his producing stuff. And I'm like, okay. So, he does give pointers. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. And you know, you'll take that shit. Because at the end of the day, you won't show shit to be in pocket. You want them to love it. You want them to mix it. But if you never put it out, I don't give a shit about that session. Right. I got paid. You know what I mean? Yeah. So that's dope that you got to do that. A lot of people would love to be on tour. Oh, and to be on an up and smoke tour with, you know, everybody was the most, like, rewarding thing of my career. I learned how to be on tour like no other. Like, I literally was on a music boot camp. I didn't have nobody with me. What did Ice Cube say to you that was impactful? That you feel like you took from it? I know you said Tupac said something. But what did Ice Cube say to you? Anything? Or what did he do? He could have done something. He said, well, he actually showed me some things. He had an instant replay machine back then. You could program all your music in it and stuff. So when I got signed to Universal, I was on the up and smoke tour. So my first investment was an instant replay machine. Wow. So I bought the instant replay machine so my DJ can go find my music. I don't like chaos at the booth. You got to do the shit right. And so I took pointers from him. And then when the tour was over, he said, talk to everybody now. You know what I'm saying? You never know who you're going to, you never know if you're going to see anybody again. But that was real important because I do work with people. I reach out. You know what I'm saying? And I also allow new artists to work with me as well. Wow. That's good. So Ron DeVoe. Let's talk about that just for a second. Ron DeVoe dancing Ron DeVoe. Yeah. He used to play cars in Domino's in my house. Oh, Domino's. Oh, Domino's. Oh, Domino's. But Ron DeVoe, so you and him, what was it? Is it anything that sticks out? Because you guys actually, you've played Domino's and then cars and hung out and whatever. Are you going to Domino's? Well, I don't play games no more. I'm from Texas, man. Listen, I'm in Vegas and I don't even gamble, so don't ask me. So what did he do that stood out? I feel like his natural charisma, you know, even though he was a big star back then, he was so humble. He's still a big star. And he was a big star back then to us. I get it. He is a legend now. Correct. Right. And so that made me really realize, like, man, you know, I really have a good rapport with certain people in his business and they feel comfortable being around me and my family, you know what I'm saying? And so when we did do the song because my dude, who I was dating at the time, drove a limo. Okay. So I was in limousines even before I was famous. Wow. I was like in a limo going to the store to the right angle. Just regular shit, right? Yeah. And he came home and he was like, I was rapping. I was doing some shit to one of the ice cube beats, writing. And he was like, damn, babe, you know, I drive for these celebrities. Next time I get somebody in the car, I'm going to tell them about you. And so it was Ronnie DeVos uncle, Brooklyn. Okay. So he was my first manager and that's how I ended up meeting Ronnie. Wow. Did you meet Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky, and Mike? Well, Mike. Did you meet all of them? I didn't. But I didn't meet everybody at the same time. Even when I was, you see, I'm going to get down. When I was on Universal, Michael Bivens had this group called Transitions. And so they're on my album because of Mike. Because he came in my session when I was on Universal and I was in New York. So it's like powerhouse shit be happening to me. Already, man. That's a good thing, though, to be able to meet all of them. And, you know, but you still, but Ron stands clear because he really, really was, you know, hanging out with absolutely. Absolutely. And that song and why it inspired me is because the lifestyle of the rough and sexy, he was taking a chance on being a rapper. Knowing that he already was in an R&B group. R&B group, yeah. And in this business, they don't like for you to change. Change, yeah. So I respected him going against the grain of his group to be a rapper because later on, BVD came along. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just feel proud to be a part of him, his struggle of being a rapper to make it to another plateau in his career. I think that's dope. See, I always feel like God bring people in your life for a reason, for you to learn something from it. People always feel like, oh, I wish I didn't meet that person. I wish, you know, that was a bad situation. But it's because you're clouded with anger. You're not seeing... The benefit. The benefit. The lesson that needs to be learned, you know what I mean? Yeah. I know you've worked with a lot of different people. I hear you talking about a lot of males that you've worked with, but you haven't really mentioned a lot of females that you've worked with. What does she mean to you? Yo, yo, yo. Yo, yo, yo. Payback actually to produce this track. Set it off with me, yo, yo. Sugar Tea and Suki Fine. Mmm. So, and then I have songs with the Five Footers. Okay. I also, I'm about to do a video with Philly's own Jackie Bad. She's Reed Dollars' wife. Wow. I fuck with the bosses. If you don't own your music, you will not work with me. Wow. So I have a lot of females that I own. If you don't own it, you won't work with you because it's more difficult to make things happen. I'm gonna put it out if you don't own yourself. That's what I'm talking about. I can't put it out. It's my music. I want you to, you know, I want to be able to put it out and, you know, give you some shine and recognition and stuff that's going on in hip hop because all people have to do is see you drop the music and see the data set 2021. Oh, yeah, yeah. So, young girl, if you could go back to that young girl that was just starting out. Yeah, what would you say to her to get her prepared for what she was about to face for us coming forward from about 18 or so, 17? I'd be like, do it harder. Then do whatever you was doing to get where you was at. Just go harder. Don't even be scared of nothing. It's nothing to fear. Wow. Wow. Thank you so much. I love y'all. Man, you can stop. Don't try to take my line. I love y'all. I love to be able to chop it up. We love you. It don't feel like an interview when it's like... No, no. We're kicking it. You know what I'm saying? We're just chilling, you know? That's a discussion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we love you and definitely love... Hey, when we back in Vegas, we got to get her to show us where we are in Cali. Where the food's at, you know? Because we like good food, you know? And if you can cook, we might come by, we'll pull up. We'll pull up, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And hang out, which I ain't run, but I mean, you know, I've been around with you. You know what I'm saying? We can all eat good food, trust me. Hey, man, thank you so much for coming on the show, man. For sure. For sure. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we have.