 Hey everyone welcome to the Nintendo Prime podcast season 2 episode 20 We just have five people at the moment because HMK is gonna be joining this a little bit later He's a bit caught up in traffic due to some sporting events But he will be here when he can get here. So, yeah, that's one of our guests It's gonna hear what you know what let's stick with the ones that we do have president the moment first off Our co-host as always mr. Eric more. How's it going buddy? Good good? Great to be here as always and you know what I just updated it today So now when when Andres restarts channel gets shared in the chat It's gonna mention. He's a co-host because he's basically been co-hosting the entire season do how's it going buddy? Hey, I'm doing all right Then we got Darren up at the top right who's attempting to become another co-host. I don't I don't know I Don't know what Darren's deal is We become a cold he's trying to claim his throne back from like six years ago. I'm here you exist you exist smack dab in the middle Literally, we're all surrounding him at the moment. He's mr. Popular some bro nation. What's up guys? Happy to be back We're here guys. We're here. We're at the home stretch Oh stretch. I mean look if you guys want to get technical you go with the Australian version and play out like 10 a.m Tomorrow, exactly. That's what I'm saying. You don't have to wait more than a few hours, which is crazy You know literally go to bed tonight wake up tomorrow and you're pretty much set You might have to buy the game twice, but it's a thing it's possible. I mean, I'm buying it like five times already Yeah, I'd say they got they got their fair share of money out of me. Yeah, they're getting quite a bit out of me That being said We're gonna go around and talk about what we've been playing lately But first we need to give a big congratulations to Andres restart for hitting his 25,000 goal Hell yeah, man. Yeah, right in time for your goal, too. I was happy for you, man You might not get it because he slowed down for a moment. I not a nice. He's gonna get there Yeah, I was like, oh We're we're doing pretty good We were gaining about a thousand a week and then the last on Sunday like usually like Sundays when we would like break the next Thousand and it was like, oh no, we slowed down I just wanted to play with your emotions a little bit. You know, and somebody was manually adjusting the The view counts on your videos subscriber cats No, I don't know. It's it's an up-and-down. It's an up-and-down beast battle, but we're here We made it made it with some time to spare. So it's not it's not that nerve-wracking So not anymore not anyone. I mean, maybe if it was tomorrow and you still weren't there I mean, I would have just been more disappointed at like losing momentum. I guess but it's cool We're here. Keep it going. Keep it going. We're gonna crank out 10 videos in the same day like Really trying to cross that finish line Before tears of the kingdom. Yeah, he's posted his 11th video Nah, I don't know, but we really are we made it. Thank you. It's pretty cool. Yeah Yeah, I'm glad to see you hit that milestone and now what's what's your next one? What's your next goal? Yeah, I think I talked about it on my live stream yesterday Probably gonna do aim for 50k by the end of the year There's a small part of me that wants to be like no 100k by a time that your prime four comes out which is Stretching all right. I'm gonna become the biggest metric youtuber. So here we go Yeah, you just got to build whatever craftable rocket the Nate built to up his channel to a hundred Whatever rocket that it what was it in four and I know just let's just go just 2023, right? It's basically been like four months 47,000 new subscribers. Yeah, that's insane man I was gonna say huge congrats to you too because that is a ridiculous amount of You don't you don't see that so killer job man They might go to for tears the kingdom news too because you've delved into the depths of the internet that I won't look at so To find the Yeah, that isn't leaks. Yeah, I know because honestly to find like all the merchandise or to find like every little piece of like Marketing that's out there. You really got to go to places online that involve leaks So you got to be really cool with that and a lot of anyone's got the experience to do the deep dives into the deep Corners of the internet for all the news. It's Nate There's See back in the day though, I might have been the scumbag posting all the leaks on Zeldin former just for clicks so But it's labeled it's okay. Yeah, but you're your image shows the inside of a dungeon. Yeah, well, you know Taku over there, it's all good. No, I wasn't pretending that we deserved review copies and yet we still got them anyways The dog days that was before people like social media really wasn't super big yet. So Anyways Times of opposite change you guys know I don't post leaks the moment that a game leaks We stopped covering leaks. You guys know we do leaks and rumors We had some rumors in my video today about some Mario games and Metroid Prime 4 today Pretty excited about that except I forgot to put a link in the description that I said I was gonna put in the description I just remembered it because I'm staring on your free start space I was gonna link his video as the source on the rumor that Metroid Prime 4 is done But that's not the news today. The news today is it's coming this year. That's coming from Nate Drake. Anyways That's not a miss that You telling me is that is the news of that which okay There's just to clear me and Andres both heard from the same legit source that Metroid Prime 4 is done Yeah So I have no doubt that it's done. The source is was right on other stuff that we talked about But it be a done doesn't mean it's coming out anytime soon I like Nintendo could just sit on it for until whenever it can be for the next generation device or something But Nate Drake came out today Actually, it was last night And he said I do know about some unannounced games Nintendo has planned for later in this year And then he said I think they're going to announce Metroid Prime 4 in like September for this holiday If not, then then it would be in a very early direction 2024 Then someone asked me directly. Are you just giving an opinion or is this like based on what you've heard? And he said mostly based on what I heard with a bit of speculation on when they'll reveal it, but this year It would make sense to launch holiday. They need games for the holiday quarter, you know So that's where it's like. Mm-hmm. Hey guys, if you It's a great year it sounds like I'm just saying you master you get Prime 4 maybe the end of the year Zelda squeeze between We got a year. We got to get somebody to put their hair on the line So Nate Drake even though he's not on camera Yeah, then then we know if Nate the hate Nate Drake puts his hair on the line or some somebody does Then that way if he says it comes this year. We for sure know it's coming Q1 2024 I'll put my beard on the line. Hey buddy. Yeah, get ready to be clean shaved But that February direct next year, let's go Anyway, let's get into what have we been playing lately and you know what I'll go first just to get it out of the way Look guys, it was Breath of the Wild Master Road and that's it. That's all I played because we finished it off We finished it off on Monday. I was going to dive into some other stuff And I decided you know what if I just finished that off on Monday, what am I really gonna get into and finish before Friday? Let's just be honest probably nothing There's not any game that I'm so close that I only need to get a few hours into to finish So I just said we're gonna sit here and patiently wait for tears of the kingdom and I'm just gonna work 14 hour days So you're welcome for all the content guys that being said I'm very tired And I'm gonna continue to be tired because the it doesn't stop I'm doing 12 hour live streams all weekend of tears of the kingdom So it's gonna be crazy. Plus. I'm still gonna try to make videos while doing that So I look I don't know I'm and say don't be me people. I say what does it take to be successful on YouTube? I say living an extremely unhealthy life, so Let's move on and I haven't worked out in a while I play pickleball on Sunday Yeah, I've been trying to go and so I'm trying to do like a daily swim thing But this week I had to stop because I'm too busy because it's yours of the kingdom. So like here's the kingdom comes first Once I get past tears of the kingdom, I'll get back to my daily swims and everything but yeah So Eric, what have you been playing lately man? Um, I Played some sparks to hope the tower doom. I actually beat one round of the tower doom so far. Yeah, it was definitely The whole a difficult more difficult than the actual game itself. Yes, it is But once I figured out a different strategy, I was I've struggled for the first for the first three levels Not struggled But I finally figured out the strategy and then we'll just kind of walk through everything else to a certain extent But yeah, I played that and then I downloaded and I planned on playing grounded on my Xbox And goat simulator, but I haven't gotten to that point yet. So I downloaded he's he's made it a step He's made baby steps here. Yeah That's awesome. I'm proud of you, Eric. I'm proud of you proud easy. He's slowly gonna touch Bitches that Xbox series X that he bought right now. He's finally might play. You know what happened guys Here's what really happened, right? He buys the Xbox series X and we're all excited to play What was that game back for blood back for blood together and then they messed up Some of the stuff with it and we're just like damn it. This was supposed to be the left for dead replacement It didn't really do it. No, so then like Okay, well this sucks. So deep pretty much hasn't touched it since then I'm surprised you still touch your switch after After what they did the crystal chronicles Oh, God, yeah, I know right cuz we both bought final fantasy crystal chronicles the remake or remaster or whatever on switch and then they Butchered that yeah, yeah, they did some surprise. You didn't just quit switch at that point. Yeah. Yeah, no for sure It's cuz Zelda drew you back in the honest. No, there it is. No 100% all right I often gonna play that so nice Darren. What have you been playing lately? Let me guess modern warfare 2 chess and Breath of the Wild First two are correct. Yes The weekly play sessions, you know, that's usually what I do have to work But I also I had something of my own to finish before tears of the kingdom comes out I hopped on a fortnight and finish that Star Wars battle pass. They got going on Got that Darth Maul skin for I don't really play for tonight a lot But whenever they have some Star Wars content kind of come out I gotta hop in and grab that so I got that done. I'll finished up Ready to go to work tomorrow come home take a nap wake up at midnight Play tears of the kingdom have the following 10 days off and work. Yeah, you took time I got 10 days motherfucker. I got 10 days my girlfriend is pissed I don't it with you sorry no But that's all you can do for me, baby, sorry, you know a priority priorities once every six years, okay? You're around daily. What's every six? Nice man I'll just restart what you've been playing lately or should I ask Ruby what Ruby's been playing lately? Well, we're playing Breath of the Wild So we're playing that I don't people are gonna start streaming tears of the kingdom tomorrow So I'm like, oh, I just realized I'll be stringing Breath of the Wild tomorrow. Should I even? We'll see Probably I'll probably you didn't say I'm playing Zelda every day Okay, so that's that's what I'm doing. So that's gonna happen Beyond Vow sit up. Just my cat Beyond that Oh, well careful Where you're going all right beyond that Playing future redeemed. Hey, be careful. She's good. She didn't fall. She jumped down And there's like a soft carpet there beyond besides catch, you know, they can jump But yeah, I've been trying to finish future redeemed as well For cool. I think we're close It's hard to know if you don't know exactly how it ends, you know Yeah, but I'm at the point where they're like, okay, you need to get to this point Where everything kind of it feels like it feels like the conclusions Maybe not that conclude it's probably like a penultimate thing like I'm sure I'm I think it is probably like another big area Right after but I think I've got to be like in the second to last big area So and I'm at the boss there. So I think after that this it'll It'll be the big moment which made I don't know how I don't know but the game can't be that long right You know it's you know blade, right? Yeah, but it's just it's just DLC though It's just you know what they did with the last DLC and this is supposedly longer than that one. So Sometimes DLC is kind of like what they add into the Witcher 3 and then it's like a whole new game Yeah, I do like future Dean more than torna because torna like it kind of artificially lengthened It's it's gameplay because you were forced to do side quests Future redeemed you don't have to do side quests. So that may be why some people have said it's it's shorter because you could finish it faster Oh sure, but then there's all the side quests. Then maybe it's longer. Yeah, the world's pretty pretty so I would say Fairly substantial for for DLC. So it's pretty good nice nice Alright Sunbro nation did I don't know what you've been playing I haven't seen you in a month. How's it going? Oh, it's going good It's so it's been a rotation of games But primarily like I I told myself I'm done with Breath of the Wild But then I just keep going do inside random side stuff because I've already began and we're ready to wrap it up DLCs done I mean I'm wrapped up on that game yet I still find myself going back just to play for fun in them in like very short bursts Minish cap run-throughs progressing nicely me my fiance been playing that together and then so she's got it on her switch I got on mine. That's kind of fun But just recently I did decide to pick up Jedi survivor and now that's taken up some of my time Full full well knowing that I'm not gonna have time to complete it before tears of the kingdom So I'm gonna hit the pause button on that like as of tomorrow But I will say that I've enjoyed the beginning like three four hours of it still very early on but it's it's They tightened up a lot of the combat mechanics that I had complaints around from the previous game Fallen order was it? Yeah, so I'm a fan of it. It's a soul-styled Star Wars game But if you add in a little bit of like the jump from uncharted type of but it's good. It's good Yeah, man, that's awesome Let's see so normally at this point guys we go over some stories in the last week But we're actually gonna kind of skip it this week We're gonna try to shorten the podcast a smidge just because I've been just Working like a dog over here. I'm besides we got two really really big topics to talk about Let's just get into the one that everyone won't stop talking one. That's tears of the kingdom. Hello It's been a it's been a topic on the podcast like every week except like this time It's here guys like for you Aussies or people other than Australia to come to want to buy it it's here in like 12 hours a little over 12 hours For the rest of us, you know, it'll drop at all these different times over the next 24 hours Except for us here in the US. I think it will technically be 27 and a half hours 27 and a half hours, I believe when will be able to play the digital version officially And then there's a whole bunch of you other people out there that have just been playing this damn things It's Monday of last week. So Look, I might hear to judge you guys, but you know, you know who you are By the way, no spoilers in the chat, please. Just a nice reminder that we are not doing spoilers I will note that next week's podcast We will allow spoilers up to a certain point in the game because what we give in some impressions and stuff At least what the Treehouse covers I'm gonna assume Yeah, yeah, so Anyways, so what what could we possibly talk about right like we talked so much about this game Yeah, there's still some things we can get into and the first thing I want to get into is Review score predictions because we didn't get them today. No the embargo is tomorrow So since we can't talk about the reviews, which would have I mean that could have been a whole podcast right there's Tom other reviews Let's instead talk about what we think it's going to review as is it going to match best of the wild Is it going to be less can it out do Metroid Prime remaster currently the number one reviewed game on switch this year? so I About a week or so ago during a live stream was asked about this and I predicted at least a 95 on Metacritic and I'm sticking to at least that but I'm thinking like honestly I I've tried to avoid the leaks, but I've heard people say some things. I've heard a little bit. I Now that they've confirmed Dungeons officially this was publicly said don't get mad at me for saying that I There's Dungeons guys, you know what I just done that for a moment all you people out there like you're spoiling the game He said Dungeons every Zelda game for 37 years has had Dungeons and I know you're gonna say but Breath of the Wild They called the Divine Beast Dungeons and they've been calling them Dungeons consistently for like seven years We're at a point now where it doesn't matter if you don't like them. They're Dungeons. So oh My gosh, there's Dungeons. That's not a spoiler Yeah, but when I said about the Dungeons and Tuesday, that's what they said it could be But it's really well you would Like be choosing to consume that and they and they literally said Dungeons are back on their Twitter. So I mean Yeah, oh But the headline of their was it someone told me the headline of their interview didn't mention Dungeons I'm like no the headline of their tweet did Nintendo congratulations. Yeah But yeah, so I think I'm thinking that this game is going to be a masterpiece I think it's actually going to address a lot of the issues people had with breath of the wild And I think it's going to shock people just in terms of everything it does and just looking at what we've seen in the gameplay I think they found a way to make this feel totally new and refreshing and reading the the Q&A's which I've been covering I mean Nate, I know we've been covering it too. Like they've been paying they they're aware of like the concerns and criticism people have for both Breath of the Wild and the leader purchase of the kingdom Like they have this term that they refer to as the great mundanity Like this this argument people have been having on the internet for the last six months about this being a $70 DLC Nintendo's aware of the potential issues of doing a sequel like this Hence why they refer to it as the great mundanity. They're trying to do everything they can to make it feel fresh while it's still Being the world just evolving it So I think there's hyper aware of everything they need to accomplish. I think the Zella team I mean, they've proven it at time and again they always make a game of the your candidate kind of game and I'm gonna say I mean, I think most of us are gonna play this and think it's at least better than Breath of the Wild And now how will it review because just because people may think it's better doesn't mean it will review better But I'm gonna go on a limb and say I'm gonna I'm gonna actually Tweak what I said last week. I think it's going to at least be a 96 on Metacritic And I'm gonna even say I have an optimism That it will be the highest reviewed game on Nintendo switch Potentially hitting 98 and my is this is this hype talking is this hype talking Maybe hope you hope be I'm copium opium. I don't care. Whatever you wanna Add there. The fact matter is objectively this game is going to be better than Breath of the Wild I think they're doing things to make this feel like a fresh experience that will innovate in ways and With that in mind, I think it could be better than Breath of the Wild from a review standpoint, which means Maybe better than 97 so 98 here we come It could also be a 97 and just be a higher 97 than Breath of the Wilds 97 So that's also possible. But yeah, I'm just I'm on it. I'm on the hype train I I think 98 isn't is in the cards, but at least 96 I See some outlets being like You know if tears of the kingdom is more populated than Breath of the Wild to be like I missed the the melancholy feeling of of desolate Exploration and it was so peaceful and you know this game is just a lot happening and it's like yeah It's a sequel is a lot more happening. I see a lot of I see a lot of weird Reviews and a lot of weird Nitpicks coming and that makes me a little nervous for the review score, but hopefully it all irons out I'm with Andres. I actually think that there's a chance a Small small chance that it beats Breath of the Wild, but I I don't want to get my hopes up for that I'm actually going to predict a 96 I think that it's going to review lower than Breath of the Wild just because of what that change in formula to Dazzled a game taking it open world for the first time kind of did and shocked all the reviewers I think it is going to be objectively a way better game than Breath of the Wild and the fan response is going to be Significantly better behind it, but you'll have enough reviewers that felt like well They reused the same high rule and there's gameplay mechanics that are similar enough to what we did before there's puzzles whatever whatever You know nitpick they want to find That can pull them out of that higher metacritic tier like when a game does something revolutionary from the for the first time I feel like that's when we see like those ridiculously high scores and not saying tears of the king won't do a ton of Things for the first time, but that's where like my hope for like the 98 kind of falls off a cliff I think there's going to be enough of like a mixed review or just you know Not as positive just due to the fact that it hasn't like been the true Reinvention of the formula because we already saw that with Breath of the Wild and you don't have to reinvent the formula every time But I think that's what stops it from hitting that 98. I would love to see it, but I think it's 96 I think it comes in slightly less than Breath of the Wild and then You know there it's going to be because I think we'll see like they did a great job Expanding everything in the current high rule and adding in you know beneath the ground areas and also in the skies And dungeons, but it also still still plays very similar to Breath of the Wild like that's what I'm expecting some of the Critic style reviews to read and so but that said 96 is still like a ridiculously high score So and I think the users behind it will be like well This is what Breath of the Wild should have been it's the evolution of the open world formula It is way better. It is more enjoyable But because it's not the first time we've seen a Zelda game kind of attempt this formula I don't think it gets higher than Breath of the Wild To correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like There have been some game series that have kind of like the same thing and they still end up reviewing incredibly well Like I feel like Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty like they'll they're pretty much just the same game again, but They're maybe you know more robust or More of the same and they stand they sometimes review even higher true But a Zelda game I mean think about like Ocarina of Time, you know like that was kind You know that's kind of set the standard for the 3d era of Zelda games in the base like formula for them And that's the highest. I don't know it could I would love to be wrong I would love to see it 98 highest highest which score ever I'm just throwing out potential counter arguments Here's another actually yeah hasn't been so long since Breath of the Wild six plus years It's gonna feel even if they were to replay Breath of the Wild It would feel fresh, but playing to use the kingdom. It's probably gonna feel really new for a lot of people. I agree I agree. I think people I my my stance on this is I think people enjoy it significantly more I can see some of that the critic I type reviews is what's gonna bring down those couple of points That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, I Get that. Yeah, I'm just I'm on the hype train, but hey bring it down a couple of points at 96 is still insane You know what I mean like? Like we're expecting this game to not score, but I don't know if anybody's gonna predict beneath the 95 But I think that beneath the 95. I doubt that that's in the conversation like if we wake up and it's a 93 I'm gonna be shook. I mean, I like I really don't think that's gonna happen But it and that says something in and of itself 93 would still be amazing by the way I know they could still be game of the year true So first off welcome HMK. It's gonna be 99. It's gonna be I can't be We're sort of level. It's gotta be that our creatines the highest at what 98? Yeah, no, it's gonna be 98. It's gonna be 99. I'm actually like, okay. We're talking about Metacritic scores. Hi everyone I'm thinking I'm all like if I'm saying like the copium is 99 But I mean if I'm like Groucher, I'm also thinking 97 because everything I've seen of the game everything I've heard about the game it Breath of the wall was just a breath of all is just a test run. That's that's Breath of the wild was an appetizer. This is the main course It I'm like I've I've been saying it for so long that Tears of the Kingdom I really think it's going to be the ultimate Zelda and Truly something to earn the respect of being Zelda 20. I I'm guys. It's Mom who's playing tomorrow Downloading that Australian copy. Yeah, I debated it, but I'm like, you know, I'm Midnight EST time that's what I'm gonna be playing my copy Yeah, I won't be playing till 8 a.m. to on Friday, but that's cuz I'm doing a 12-hour straight live stream So I'm gonna I'm forcing myself to get one night of sleep Before the tears of the Kingdom. Just that's all I do for you It's just preloaded and waiting yeah, yeah Midnight Eastern, yeah, yeah, yeah or or 9 p.m. Pacific Yeah, you're on the West Coast Apparently that's like Nintendo's official e shop like reports on their site says that like Games are gonna be sold physically and digitally go live 9 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, which I'm like I want to go back to what HMK was saying though about how this might feel Like the completion right and breath was like a beta. I heard like a while back, right? I'm I know I'm not the only one who thought about this but like Like looking at the initial Zelda you trailer like the 2014 trailer Like that thing looks so cool and they had a vision there And I think they had a great job of getting close to that with with breath of the wild But it wasn't quite the same. I Do kind of feel like with tears of the Kingdom like every kind of idea they sort of envisioned This is the mastery of all of that into one thing and if it is the case It's gonna make breath while feel like just like a tech demo Then your point some bro about how some people might come at this thinking it's it's too samey They might go in the opposite direction and there'll be like oh This is like the complete mastery what a true open air Zelda is And then it might be considered revolutionary if it's actually a true open air. I could see that it can swing the other way I absolutely I was thinking of like more of the long the lines of like there's there's very few Video games that do this in gaming as a whole where like I think tears of the kingdom is gonna answer both Questions in which for those who loved breath of the wild They're gonna love tears of the kingdom for those that didn't like breath of the wild They're gonna love tears of the kingdom. It's a really to me It's a really interesting anomaly that Nintendo is trying to answer all the questions, which is like, you know It's like it's almost unheard of in gaming, but it's it's it's been accomplished But very very rarely right and I feel that tears of the kingdom is gonna do exactly that because breath a while as much as I love the game and like I constantly say like oh What's the first other game awkward in time breath the wild is like it's it's those two But there's a lot of complaints to breath a lot as much as I love it and I understand those a lot of those complaints You know people be like our rain like slipping off and all weapons breaking like those like yo It's it's it's the real not the real world, but it's like a living breathing world So that doesn't like you know affect me but when people say lack of traditional dungeons lack of more traditional elements that they've known from previous other games that They wish were in breath of the wild I get that right and from what we've been what we've been seeing in like the demo and The final trailer and everything that we were seeing like up until now because Nintendo's like trickling things like little by little I Feel that tears of the kingdom is set to answer a lot of those, you know complaints in a way That could have been answered in breath of the wild But you know but wasn't because of either like you know not enough development time Limitations for the Wii U yada yada yada and tears of the kingdom is set to do that It's set to accomplish what a lot of people think is the impossible and that's why I'm like, you know This is all the 20 and I feel like This is gonna be some special people think I thought breath of all some special But everything I've been seen for tears of the kingdoms. It's like yo, that's Huh, like only Nintendo would be able to like take that bar that I thought was extremely high with breath of the Wild and just be like nah, that was that was that was the bottom This is the top. There's the new top now and that's why I think tears of the king So I'm thinking I Think this is gonna have a 97 on medical 97. Yeah, that's I think it's gonna tie breath of the wild and you know Maybe be percentage points ahead because you know that that happens sometimes Where it might be technically rated ahead, but it's not quite a full percent up It I think a lot of it is gonna come down to how many of the reviewers truly played the game And how many just played it for a handful of hours and decide I've seen enough. I'm gonna write a review I think for the big outlets clearly they're gonna be playing a lot more of it But you have to worry about how many smaller outlets might get counted that maybe made judgments about the game before fully diving in because I do think There is those are the outlets we sandbag. Yeah, I do think there's something to be said about people that maybe just played the tutorial area got down to the ground did a few quests and then Like they just made their decision then about what this game is And I know that you shouldn't say that oh it takes 15 20 hours to get into a game And I think if you love breath of the wild, you'll have no problem getting into it But I do worry that maybe they might go. Oh well I only really did the beginning stuff and I it feels too same eat the breath of the wild so Um, I just think that this is the 70 dollar DLC and that's the way I'm gonna go with it I think if I think that's one of the one of the few risks Just based on what I've heard and seen that maybe some people might get that feeling early on because everything I have heard Is that the deeper you go the crazier it gets And that's awesome by the way games should get crazier the deeper you get in but the problem is it's a direct sequel So if it feels too samey For the first, you know, say five ten hours I do worry that are there going to be some review outlets that by the way I don't think you should review a game if you haven't at least beat the main story I'm just gonna throw that out there. I don't think I don't you gotta know gotta 100% the game But at least get through the main story come on So about about that though Um, and we kind of talk about this not too long ago But like let's let's um use like the main line mario games as an example If you go to them if you just do the main story That's still not really telling the full story of the game Because they have a lot of bonus. Well. Yeah, like for me and game content Actually doing a mario game like beating bowser. That's just a halfway point. It's the second half That's the true mario mario 3d land on the 3ds. Oh, yeah That's exactly that is the halfway point. Yeah, you if you don't got luigi halfway point Yeah, that's a good a lot of reviewers will only go to the halfway point. Oh solid credits. That's it Uh-uh I just wanted to at least get to the credits You know what I mean? Like there's reviewers that come up that didn't even finish That's better. That's you know, like it's like but but we do know and I can tell when I read the reviews The reviewers that didn't actually beat the game like once I beat the game and I go back and read the review I'm like, could they even beat the game? No, I I think that's worth pointing out as a topic of conversation in and of itself Is how much stock I know it's fun to say like the highest Metacritic reviewed zelda game ever or the highest Metacritic reviewed switch game ever But the the reality is is that it doesn't really hold as much weight as We make it out to be just because to your point Nate there is gonna be reviewers that had A halfway playthrough and they have some crappy take because they didn't like the high roll layout And they're like, oh, it's still in the same high roll This game's kind of BS like that stuff's still gonna happen And so it's it is fun to celebrate those huge numbers But I'm with you guys I think that the game is going to evolve the open world breath of the wild Zelda formula to what it's supposed to evolve into and it's going to be a masterpiece of a game And I think that's how most every zelda game zelda fan is going to walk away from this game But I think there might be some controversy around the score with certain reviewers like I could see it Definitely happening See, I think it's still going to hit a 97 despite some of those because Let's just be honest. Most of the outlets being counted are the very outlets that got breath of the wild to 97 anyways So if they a majority of those outlets end up loving this game even more And I don't know why they want Um, the exact and argue there's even you can argue you hate saying this that there's incentives to like the game Because of how popular it is as well and being able to create a bunch of content around it But it is one of those things that I do think it's going to end up impressing Even people who have their criticisms and there'll be criticisms of this game as well And they might be new they might be sane. They might be oh, they didn't fix this that I thought they would fix But I just I get this feeling and no guys. Well, I know some stuff from the leaks. I haven't played it I haven't experienced it. I pretty much know nothing about the story Um, I gotta say This sounds And we don't talk leaks extra okay, we don't talk leaks I'll say just because I've heard some stuff, but I'm not gonna say what I've heard um It just sounds like this is going to be that game that is Not gonna disappoint. There's so many big games that have the big expectations that don't quite always deliver Um, but this is gonna be like this year's all the ring Like it's going to deliver Does it take game of the year? Predictions anyone? The only thing that could touch it. I think of this point is No, you're you're you're thinking mention platform is gonna come out this year. That's funny Apparently apparently Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. Yeah, I think I think there's only two games Right right now for my like and people are like, oh, but what about this game? No to me two games Are though there's only two games on my list that can compete which is the kingdom For game of the year and that's spider-man Spider-man 2 and 5 that's 60. Yeah. Yeah, those are the two games Yeah, but I mean maybe starfield, but it did really have to be it have to be almost perfect And I don't I don't know that I trust Bethesda, I think it's gonna be really good. I think it's gonna rate in the high 80s Perfect in six months, but not whenever the reviewers. Yeah, I just don't think it's gonna be good enough But I do think it's gonna be really good. By the way Bethesda when they go all out and that'll be in a really good game But he doesn't necessarily mean game in the year I think I think the one shot Bethesda will have in the next You know handful of years is whenever the next eldest rolls comes out because there's so many So many people that played skyrim that if they don't mess it up by default, it's gonna be a contender, but um, anyways Yeah, and that's the thing like do I think yours of the kingdom can beat our final fantasy 16? You know, it's hard to say because it's not here. But sure a zelda has beaten no final fantasy before Um, can it beat on spider-man 2? I don't know spider-man and miles more Alice were both fantastic Uh Do I think it's more of a media darling than those two? Well, sure every zelda game always scores 93 plus So that's just what it does. It's a big media darling, but that's different than when it comes to the end of your voting It could end up being the highest review game, but then not Be game of the year that happens. So yeah, there's a bunch of baloney Every time the critics decided that this was the highest rated game of the year But also these same critics went vote for for game of the year No, no, listen, listen if Tuesday kingdom is going to sell 20 million and that would be a low ball I think it sells 20 million this year easy. I think I eat that's like the low ball easy after by the end of holidays I think they're gonna do a By and including holidays then yeah Violet sold 20 million Like a month and a half, but that's two games and it's two games It yes that pokemon sales conversation cracks me up because yes it did But you know like half of all the hardcore pokemon fans bought both day one All right, it does have the dual pack thing, but it's tears of the kingdom The the breath of the zelda fan base ever has been I'm not saying it hits Next week and says We're happy to announce that tears of the kingdom sold 10 million copies on launch week and forget about it Forget about it. That's just a pokemon number thinking like okay So if we're going by like install base and everything Here's some like numbers to go against it because like pokemon like I said like pokemon is pokemon and then here's the thing I'm a huge zelda fan, but there's one truth that I have to constantly acknowledge and I'm constantly reminded of Right zelda is a lot more popular outside of japan than it is in japan Right and japan is like a gigantic mark because like nintendo comes like straight out of there, right? So pokemon was able to sell 10 million in like three days weekend five days a week whatever um But a really good Number to compare that to but then people will argue owes during the pandemic was age of calamity So three million copies in like in a weekend right and that is unheard of and impressive for a warriors title But you know that the that was the plateau though because like since then it's like so like maybe one more one more million units but i'm thinking like you know Seven to ten million copies within the first weekend to week is not unheard of Right and then like yo, we could be surprised. I mean look everyone thought that's the super maribyr's movie Was only going to make 500 million in its whole run It cracked the top five highest-grossing anime movies of all time and the top 25 highest-grossing movies of all time and it's and it's running still not done so like you know And then thought based on the switch is gigantic. So I mean like Under 25 million Talking about that japan It's highly likely that it has crossed the breath of the wild has crossed three million sales there including digital in there um Because it's already sold over two million physical in just japan So you sit there and you go. Well, okay This is already like the most popular Zelda game in in japan ever And now we have a sequel that potentially could be three million customers in the opening weekend And it's been at the top of the mitzu for the longest Yes, yes It's been so like is isn't it a highest demand the highest pre-order Zelda game I think in history Isn't it ahead of the those cards that are always number one and two on bestsellers on amazon right now too? I know that's just amazon, but that's crazy. You don't see games get past those cards Japan tears of the kingdom because they have like these weird bundles of spoons and forks and I don't know Like something Seven of the top 10 spots in amazon japan right now Like they are going nuts for this game to a level that you would think this is another splatoon or another animal crossing And they're like no, no, this is alba I'm glad you brought those up though. Um, because yeah, those games appeal more to japan, right? Yeah, but when you take a look at tears of the kingdom and how it's changed over breath of the wild It's gameplay style might be more appealing to that audience The whole crafting element like the building the vehicles and every and all of that. I think that might Help tears of the kingdom Look at minecraft how popular that isn't it's massive in japan always in the top 10 like I think this is gonna also be like what we saw breath of the wild do in terms of appealing to a new audience on that Minecraft conversation I think that happens again like doubled down because you know like I see my fiance's younger brothers watching Minecraft content creators like all day every day just because it's possibilities That's I really it's like when I was a kid I would put together lego's because it was like oh I can get creative like your mind is blown by all the possibilities I think we see that kind of content for zelda and it's going to actually propel like the future generation We're gonna have young and old gamers getting into this thing It could it could very well I mean the life of it is hard to say but it could not only pass breath of the wild But it could at least be that new exposure to a new generation of fans in addition to what we already have today Which is like insane uncharted territories for zelda By the way for those wondering why darin suddenly dipped out. I guess they lost power Yeah, so oh no if he gets it on sometime, you know that except for so there's some storms around the u.s Happening hitting tonight. So we'll we'll see if he if his power comes back and he gets on who knows Uh, because he said he said he'll come on if it comes back. All right So, yeah, look, I this game. I think it's gonna review very well I'm sure I do know one thing though. Hmm. It will never do something. I can almost guarantee you It will never do something that breath of the wild did Outpace the install base It will not outpace the install base of the switch is sadly Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, it's not plausible. It's possible Some zelda fans will buy more than one copy, but I agree. There's no way most zelda fans are No, there's no way most switch owners are going to buy zelda like if a hundred percent of switch owners are buying zelda Yes, but that's not gonna happen. So you're right No, and how many of those 125 million switches are broken in a drawer somewhere too because for sure Some of those are you know double dipping I actually have one over here. Yeah. Yeah The fans don't work anymore It happens. Yeah, I've got two broken ones. I got a version one and an OLED broken one over here in the order Go between these between these oh between these OLED editions that came out. I have too many switches in the house now. It's insane Well, I mean you don't have to buy 26 hours I know but they get me don't say that Don't say that don't say that I'm trying to sleep tonight Oh, but you know it look like there's I think it's gonna review very very well, obviously Um, I do think I don't think it's unrealistic to think it could match the rest of the wild's review rating Uh, I think a lot of the reviewers maybe just haven't revisited in a long time And they're gonna just be really happy to go back What I find very fascinating that gives me confidence that the same high rule thing Isn't going to be a problem is actually those developer interviews Like if you just go through the the the three that we have so far Like one it was deliberate from the very beginning that we are using the same world They could have went with a different world and they said we don't want to Because there are things we wanted to do here that we couldn't do I you know, it's crazy about that interview. I at one part. I think it was it was part one Yeah, it was part one where they said that in the beginning of the um In the beginning of the marketing they wanted to make it known that it was the same high rule But then they're like, okay, let's stop saying that right because it is the same high rule But now they start saying this unfamiliar land of high rule because there's gonna be massive changes to it Right and I'm like I like that because I did notice like at a point in time where they just stopped saying like Oh the same high rule the same rule. I'm like I can tell that they were like, okay See people are getting antsy where it's like, oh if it's the one to one high rule people are gonna be like, oh Do you'll see but then they stop saying that because they probably noticed the conversation happening online Which I feel is like kind of dumb because Like it's so weird because I've been meaning to like break this down in the video But I'm just gonna say here at nintendo prime. This is your hmk exclusive Right, I said like I've been wanting to say so much but like social media has outright crippled people's Ability to discern what is a dlc and what is a direct sequel, right? And I'm so tired of seeing that the argument and the conversation is like, oh 70 dollars dlc seven dollars dlc I'm like, yo y'all don't know what a direct sequel is like this isn't new that games reuse the same world in a sequel in Expanding it or changing it literally like and the people say, oh, it's a nintendo Yo, there's just one comment. I saw I was like, oh, of course nintendo would do something like that because You know nintendo fans nintendo drones are willing to buy into that. I'm like, yo, have you played jack and daxter? Jack two to jack three. It was the same Like the same city, but then they add the desert on top of it And of course like the castle blew up between the events of jack two and jack three I'm like, this isn't new right and I feel like the whole like, you know Meme task the conversation was like, oh dlc I'm like, yo, that's you're not funny. You're not interesting This is not like some sort of like if you just living to be contrary and like actually look at this We're like from what we've seen from previews already the world has changed Like massively in parts and thanks to the most recent trailers and then that's what I'm saying The addition of the sky and the dips the addition of the underground So when people are like, oh same world I'm like Same world plus plus plus plus plus. Yeah, and like an asterisk change Like a like a big giveaway too was was like you read those interviews and I knew was like, hey When we were making breath of the wild, you know, I was like, oh we we're not going to be able to fly because he just assumed like Hey, when we're starting this game, we're going to be able to fly in breath of the wild They're like, no we can't like the we you just have done the processing to keep it like the seamless thing that we Trying to do we can't seamlessly go sky to ground. So we're just not going to do then he's like, oh cool Well, then I want to dig and then they all looked at it and said we can't go up We can't go down either It just doesn't work. We don't have like if people always go like, oh this game isn't visually more impressive This game isn't that it's because if you feel that way It's because they chose to use the extra processing to switch to do the very things They wanted to do or at least our numo wanted to do very clearly And couldn't do in breath of the wilds. That's why that's why some of the opinions we're seeing out there are that breath of the wilds A tech demo why because this feels like the full realization of what they Truly wanted to do with this world and weren't able to it's kind of like They wanted skyward sword to be open world too But then they just didn't really have the ability to do it So then breath of the wild became this finally we have enough power to do what we want But then it's not really everything we want to do And now they're they just said screw it. We're going to do everything we wanted to do with this world And we're doing it in this game. I don't know what this means for after this game, but for this game I don't think they left anything on the table everything they wanted to do here I think they put it in here. This is prediction by ashis Like completion because he directs a scoured sword breath of the wild now teases Yeah If you look at the concept of a scoured sword the world was supposed to be a lot bigger and it was supposed to have four regions and then like We we couldn't do all that and i'm just like It's just like wind waker is supposed to be a lot bigger too, and then they had to cut a bunch of cotton It's like oh, but when we're huge though. I know but it's like they every time It feels like they had to cut something because they just their their vision's too big And it almost feels like I don't think they cut anything this time I think they just know three three gigabytes didn't you see they downsized again By the way random prediction Um, just kind of thinking about like them doing everything they they wanted to do I'm gonna predict that you can ride the dragons Oh, no Let's hope that's awesome. I don't know if that's something they wanted to do You know, I don't I don't know it's something I wanted to do I can see I can see your thought process and I think that might be a thing because in the latest trailer We saw a link where armor specifically for nager and elden and maybe if you could know it not elden denrall nager and denrall maybe if you wear those armors you can ride the respective I'm gonna counter that. I don't I think in true nintendo fashion They won't let you ride the dragon, but they will let you craft something that looks exactly like a dragon and ride on that Dragon like glider It'll glide and everything. Yeah, it'll have waves to it But it's gonna look like a dragon real quick on the social media point I just want to point this out because I do agree There's a lot of bad takes online But I also think that we get in the content creator bubble and we forget that that's like 1% of people that feel that way because like I ran into a random guy at the grocery store at a checkout lane that With the zelda shirt on and we had a whole conversation not one time to like $70 DLC come up He's just like I can't wait for the sequel to breath of the wild I like I'm ready to buy day one like the general public doesn't I don't think feels like that But there's like a small minority online to like blast that message out I agree on the general public thinking that but I will also say those like 1% Twitter people they do exist in a while I saw that happen at a game show When someone was pre-ordering tears of the kingdom and then some ran to do that They's like you really get a pre-order DLC and I'm like, you know, I gotta think I gotta stay quiet I gotta stay quiet. All right, let me just take my little funko pop and go home Like the funny thing is I bet you're about to go viral for something I like this I bet you the people complaining still buy the game and have a great time and just don't talk about it after that All those people complain about you're still gonna buy it. You're still gonna buy it It's like all those game boycotts Oh wrong in a boycott call of duty and then you check the boycott list and everyone's playing the new call of duty Oh, yeah, no doubt about it. That's what I did on the note of DLC I think I heard that the monster of sunrise sold like almost 5 million or something. We're just kind of crazy. Oh, yeah no monster hundred Capcom just like posted like their best quarter ever like yep that because that that's slapping right now Resident evil is slapping for him right now. I'm so happy for capcom like man There was once about a time when people were looking at capcom They like yo, what you doing and then they come out the re engine and like let me show you They were in their we you phase and now they're in their switch phase. Yo, they are they are feeling themselves outside of Nintendo They're my favorite. They're my favorite. Um, no, yo that re engine that is coveted technology That was that's one of the best decisions they may sometimes companies mess up. Um, hello frostbite engine Hello luminous engine. Yeah. Yeah, lots of them. We could we could just go down the list And sometimes they get it right and you know as an example, whatever engine. I don't know what they call it for zelda They got it right Whatever engine already engine. They got it right. Like, you know, every now and then they get it right. It's awesome For the most part, they tell us to really reveal their engines It's like no, they don't a proprietary engines that they make. Yeah, yeah, yeah And then like oh if we're if this is using unreal this using unreal if it's ours Like it's so funny because like up until breath of the wild Like I was doing a lot of research on this. So up until breath of the wild It was first this beginning the story supermars 64 supermars 64 engine Awkward time heavily modified supermars 64 engine. Yep. Yeah, majorius mass modified awkward time engine Wind waker heavily modified majorius mask engine So what? That mario 64 engine you guys don't realize that that lived on for decades, man And uh skyward sword was like the last one and then they made a new engine for breath of the wild In which they still use assets from skyward sword for that game Yeah, you're crazy Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah intended those long-term investments paying off for them Keep upgrading. So so I didn't put this on the list, but we can actually talk about it because thank you for your q&a We have themed dungeons Are we are we happy? Yes, very That's the best confirmation because I I want to say just real quick I'll let anybody else talk, but oh my god. I avoided I have successfully avoided everything to my knowledge online Out there and so when I saw the official confirmation from nintendo that themed dungeons are back That's you that's huge for me like that's all that's all I care about. That's what I wanted. It's huge I have only read Part three and part one. I refuse to read part two because someone told me it's like hey hmk I don't know if you want to read part two because it contains Spoilers and I'm like I am not reading part two. So I like if you guys are gonna talk about the part two Interview like ask the interview I'm gone That's it. And yes, I am so glad for dungeons Yes So don't get in the hands Of Exactly people like yo, you may not want to read this one See, I didn't get yelled at for that one. I got yelled at for talking about dungeons, apparently I'm waiting for hmk to go. Don't talk about this this this this this and the whole list is from the And for the second topic. No, no, no, I think you read the whole damn thing. It's so no, no No, you can't talk about this this this this It's just part just part two We're not okay. We're gonna avoid part two. We're on dungeons right now We don't have to talk about that. It's fine. Um, but I'm kind of curious though like because What is what is where do we draw the line? Because I'm not gonna say what was in part two And there is something cool in part two. There is no like it's just a me thing. It's not like I won't talk about it. It's just I rather not for example though, right? Let's say let's say I mean I did make a video on it But I didn't I didn't make it that wasn't like in the title with thumbnail But what if I just decided not to like cover the q&a and just like the the one thing in there that I was thought was really cool And I put that in the thumbnail No, go for no by all means it's officially released information. This is just a me. Yeah, it's just a youth But and see HMK knows it's like, hey, dude, if it's officially No, it's officially released. No, that's open season. Go for I'm not gonna look at you weird for like a Why? It's okay. I context matters. I didn't watch and get the context. I'm good I think we're at the season that I mentioned hands. I'm like, he's clearly new hands are a thing We're at the season. Well, I uh, we're just not gonna know the context of it. I used I'm using google chrome Uh, what do you call google chrome extensions where it eliminates all thumbnails on youtube and then Nice, uh, there's also there's also extension where the uh Videos a title it only will have like the first two words and then unless I hover over it Then I'll have the full title. So I am there you go. Now. That's how you avoid spoilers To back you guys up on that I think like if you if you're a zelda fan right now and you really want to avoid everything you want to go in Totally blind you can't you got to take the responsibility on yourself. You know, nintendo's gonna promote the game It's gonna answer questions. Yes people have like you you have to just do your own process Like those chrome extensions are genius. That's that's what you should be doing or just stay off online all together until friday Bro, people are complaining about the dungeon confirmed Yeah, saying that like why are you spoiling? Why are you spoiling? I'm like Send a letter to nintendo because they're the ones that spoiled it then How about nintendo with the headline dungeons are back? How about nintendo knows that there are more people out there concerned the dungeons may or may not be in the game And that might choose not to buy it overthinking. They're not back Let's throw it out there versus the amount of people who want to just go in blind I mean if you're going two days before the game you're one day before the game You're gonna start to see more and more information. I think it's fair game You just have to be offline if you don't want to see anything else until you play through it Yeah, set up those blocked words Yeah, y'all gotta I've been saying this too, man I've been throughout so many games that people were like spoilers for my listen Y'all need to take it upon yourselves. That's at that point. All right It was just so fascinating to me earlier today because I made the video and I said nintendo just confirmed dungeons nintendo just confirmed But I got like massive dislikes to start the video and there were comments saying how dare you spoil this I was like, but I did it nintendo did So it's like yeah, whatever but I mean, you know people whatever Everyone has different opinions dungeons releases an official wait nintendo official get angry chat dungeons are back I want to see the anger. Let's go tender officially reveals an image an official released image puts them them though Why are you spoiling bro? That's the internet Yeah, it's it's like look look look here's the thing when people talk about the spoil I'm just gonna throw this out. This is the the thing. I hate about that minority of people that are gonna complain If you think what nintendo puts out is spoilers Why are you following a fan channel that covers nintendo? Because we are more likely to probably do extra spoilers than nintendo is So why would you follow us? Makes no sense. I y'all I got a funny like I constantly talk about the story man People in the chat or like I'm not even reading the chat right now because I know the chat because we begin My mods are trying so hard to shut down everything People in the chat and then people online and stuff when they say oh Why content creators spoiling this why didn't tell spoilers? I like y'all don't know spoilers I got breath of the wild early from nintendo and I was giving an embargo packet This thing had 10 pages and I had to read that thing front to back in order to make content And in that embargo The embargoes always have spoilers Don't talk about this and I'm like when you're a content creator to get review copies or go into demo events guys You don't understand the level of spoilers we get Nintendo and other companies straight up tell you like major plot points in the game Because you have to you have to and to be fair they sort of have to do it because when they're doing them When you're doing the embargo coverage you have to know where you have to stop talking And how can they tell you before you find out like they just have to straight up tell you So I guess if you get a review code though, right could you in theory? I haven't gone. I haven't done this one. So I don't know but if you get a review code Can you just play through the game? Don't post anything publicly then read the embargo that way you're not if you're only going to review the game I would say You go down and look at the you can kind of scroll to the bottom and see when the review embargo Review date is and then you could just play the game and then check the embargo after to see what you can't talk about But a lot of times the embargoes will allow you to do previews They'll allow you to do Uploaded footage first impressions And if you have that review copy as a content creator, you probably want to take advantage of every opportunity You have to create content around it. So chances are you're You know to for the best part of what you're doing for a living you probably want to read through it And then specific parts of the embargo have their own specific dates Whereas you can post Previews like like Nate said you could post previous during this time But then don't talk about this until after this time So they actually have like specific dates like I couldn't even talk about like in bentide island I couldn't talk about the the dragons. I couldn't talk about linos or Um, the yiga clan until like a week after the game came out. So interesting. Yeah, I'm like, and then that's what's wrong to me I'm like, what's a yiga clan? What's uh, what's in bentide? Oh linos are back. That's great. Thanks It's something like that so And the linos and the dragons were some of the greatest surprises when I played breath wild Like I was so amazed that I didn't know about that until I got the game. Like that was just special Yeah, there's a lot of dragons, but they were like, oh, but we can't really see them and then you find them Like, oh my god Yeah, they just pop up and you're like, what is this my first encounter was a major one I was like, oh, I'm gonna die It's so intimidating. We don't know what it's gonna do Yeah, yeah, it turns out it's not that bad, but you don't know that at the time Sorry, my bad guys, I just beat master mode on him. Sorry. I don't did you really? Yeah. Oh, just pull it off on Monday Nice. Yeah, I I I took out calamity again and Like in one try and I was like, you know, I haven't taken him out in like five years. I'm like, oh, maybe I'll die I don't know do trial of the sword now. I made mistakes and I still now tonight No, I didn't I didn't know yet. No, I'm not gonna get through that I just live straight live streams trying to go through trial of the sword. It's just a master mode is torture Like, um, especially that one stage You guys know if you guys played it in the chat that one stage in trial in trial of the sword Y'all know there's this one stage where you have to fight an army Which is just kind of cool. But yeah, I'm actually doing it with three hearts Master mode three hearts in trial of the sword. Well, I want to but I don't have time Oh, okay. Oh, that's just the game in general. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah He says that all right guys tomorrow morning 7 a.m. Let's do trial of the sword Just one time just one time three out run if I die or die Yeah, but if I die, I'll try again. Yeah, that's the problem The first Dude, I just died on the first day. No, we ain't going like that. We ain't going out first stage. Let's go I mean if you can get to the great fairies I mean to the fairies, um, then you might be able to pull it off I think I mean people will pull it off three heart in master mode. It's been done. But yeah, I'm sure it has But I mean you watch some of the people though that do it like they are doing moves I can't even imagine They have mastered Everything every like minute frame of a glitch of a thing you can pull off It's I can do some of those things but not to that extreme level. Yeah, they're like I don't even know how they do it. I don't know if they just got like saved on a turbo button. I'm like, I I don't know what they're doing. Those people are a whole other level. It's crazy Like launching guardians like a mile into the sky. Like it's just nuts. No Yeah Um All right, so I guess to to round out this series of kingdom top it What's our final hopes and dreams because this is it the game's gonna be here So now we get to see if it's realized. So what so what do we got? What's our final hopes and dreams for this game? Dueling I like that's the only thing i'm i'm left for once in this game dueling if I don't get it whatever But I mean yeah, that's I guess I want I want it I want to be I want to spin around. I want to be your bossa with the two swords spinning around Let's go I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say for me real quick. It's just the fight I hope that the final encounter with ganondorf or whoever that is Is ends in his epic of a moment or close to as wind waker with the sword straight through I mean, I won't Time to be have like the best both of them. Yeah to be fair But oh my god I want that payoff feeling when the credits roll that just you know that that's what I want at the end of it Incredible story and I want that final clash to feel so freaking special And I actually hope it's not against like Like a beast version even like I would rather it just we got that in breadth of all Yeah, I don't I don't even get that again. Please so that I mean those are my eyes version possibly, but I don't I don't think Yeah, I I do think that For that final fight, I just want whatever the final fight is whatever it ends I just want it to be one of the most difficult fights in the game. Yes, that too. That's a good point period Yep Like look, maybe the glee ox are are really hard or the new liners that we haven't really seen in action yet Are super hard or there's some other really hard enemies in the game dark nuts Yeah, maybe they're back. I don't know But when I get to the final fight, I don't care how geared up I am how many hearts I have I want to know that he can kick my fucking ass Yeah, buddy That's it that katana man. He's about to go. Yeah, I want to know like look give him a move That doesn't matter if he hits you with a one shot I want that I want that difficult like I don't know it doesn't have to be the it doesn't have to be like a one shot I it's just I I want ten hearts a hit. Yeah, sure. Like I just want it to be a hard fight And right you want to it hasn't always been hard throughout zelda history of that final fight But there's been moments when it has sort of been up there. I would argue wind waker Uh, has was one of those ones where that fight was kind of up there a little bit Because nothing was really super hard fight wise in wind maker anyway So that fight kind of felt right in with some of the harder ones I would like to see that here like let's say a glee aqua Let's say that's one of the hardest three headed dragon cool I wanted to be harder than that then like I don't know how they do it I don't know how many stages they'll be because it and zelda's known to have multiple stages in the final fight Yeah, but I The final stage better be the hardest I'll throw that out there too I'm tired of the final stage being the weakest like get the child here You know, I I hate the victory lap. Let the victory The victory lap should be the end cut scene or post game if you want to do that Yeah, yeah, yeah So, you know what I like in certain video games that do it and one big example is tales of asperia Where if you do certain things in the game You can unlock a super harder third round fight against the final boss Uh, and for those that didn't play dallas of asperia So like the final boss I duke. Yeah, his name is duke. Um, he has two stages regularly And then you beat the if you beat the game and you beat it with the two stages the game just goes on and whatever Right, but then the third stage that he can get you have to unlock and that's something that like, you know It won't affect the story, but it's something even extra and then you unlock an item after that, right? And the way you do that is by finding Uh, what's known as the double arms, which is like a thing within the tales game If you find out the double arms and then you go into that fight with them not equipped but in your um in your inventory Uh, you do the first two fights and then there's a third fight that's unlocked afterwards because he senses your weapons And he gets even stronger and then like that's like the hardest one of the hardest fights in all of tales and like It's really satisfying. So I'm like, oh I have the perfect way they could do that in mind Like so i'm i'm combining breath of the wild knock real time here Right, so you know how in breath of the wild to get the extended ending you have to get all the all the memories all the memories and Right, so you do all that to unlock the harder boss fight And so maybe there's a three phase boss fight So you know like how in a create time you fight gandor if he shuts down the tower You have to escape and then you meet with zealot for a brief moment The game could have like gone to the credit sir That was basically like when when zealot asks link in breath of the wild Do you remember me and they could cut to the ending But if you unlock the final the final sequence Instead of it cutting to the ending with like a romantic or kind of question They hear a state that that question happens But instead of it kind of fading out at the end. It's They hear a sudden sound and then He just blows out of the rubble and then it's then it's like that final Rips to the credits super hard fight. Yo, it starts rolling the credits and he slices through the credits and starts coming back after you 80s Yeah, kidding Chris. Yeah, I would like like exactly what andra said And the and the final fight that comes out like oh ganondorf is like dead But then he comes back as false god ganondorf from twilight princess like the you know, the big flame head I'm like, oh, yeah, I always want to fight that in twilight prince, but I never got to some like Yeah, so one of our superchatters brought up, you know that they would like to be stakes to the final battle like You know, like they mentioned specifically final fantasy six with the world ending stakes I I find that to be a fascinating thing because we had that I feel like one time in zelda history and I was like majority majority mask Like you fail you see the world end You don't really get that you just get a game over screen and every other thing And then you just get to do it all over again It would be neat if there was some sort of stakes tied to it Just to be like if you do fail There is something that happens after yeah badger kazooie Yeah, that's a really good one too. So that would be cool if they decided hey It is something they've done before other games have done it. It would be cool if they did it here as well Um, I mean if they would have did it in a creative time It might have also helped with the whole split timeline crap too, but you know If they ever remake our creative time in full hg, I do think they will throw in something that addresses the third split Yeah, they'll be crossed. There'll be something where if you die in the final fight, they'll be We'll get it three and a half years from now because we've got to wait seven years for the game after Here we go just Yeah, I'll we'll into existence Um, and what's interesting too is this other guy's super chad noddle here. He said he's really open for a true post game Um, that's kind of true too because like it doesn't feel like zealots ever had a true post game in most instances Um, it's just like hey just go back in the world and do the Okay, I said most instances not every instant. I I consider win-waker to have like a post game a little bit You know, because like if you play the game again, you get to hear you all of ancient high lane is um translated That's right. So you get that extra. I didn't know that part. Yeah, if you play it over again And you're in the wings pajamas. Yeah, I'm not even someone who replays and I knew that. Oh, man Yeah, when you you got replay I replayed that game when I was a kid. That's why yeah, I never replay at the second time I just replay years later. Yeah. Yeah, you scratch So whatever it's always said, yeah, whenever a volo and jabu would talk you get to under you actually understand what they're saying conversation But what they could do and hopefully will do maybe even tears the kingdom But at least one day is to make another dark souls reference if they did like a new game plus style Like you can beat the game as many times as you want and the difficulty slowly gets up Higher and higher like the enemies start getting slightly harder Like it just ramps up a little bit each time But your weapons also get stronger to and certain things you can find are stronger That would create so much incentive in an open world game like that to just continue to go through it and find new Things and then like you don't lose all your stuff Like you certain your items and certain things that you unlock throughout the game will reset But as far as your core character and your build you'll like roll forward in the new game plus with that If if they could pull that off. I think that would be excellent in a Zelda game Yeah, I at least think that there's going to be master mode unlocked after beating the game I hope for sure. I hope they don't put that in dlc again. Well, that's one thing I didn't like that and no Yeah, please don't you guys that's a quick question. Do you think that dlc is a lock for tears of the kingdom? Or oh, yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. I think they're just gonna wait a little bit So they can tie it into the next system, but yes. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point I can see them waiting because last time because for breath of the wild they already announced it by now So I I do think that there is maybe uh, let's wait a little bit We'll ride this for this year whenever the new system is coming. We'll announce the dlc with that I I think I think that because because they also could announce with that dlc Hey, if you have the new system included in the dlc will be the the upgraded 4k pack or whatever and they could release the complete edition Yeah, like no edition. Yeah, definitely. We'll do that. I'm sure So I I do think they might just wait a smidge because I you know at most the the new system Is probably next year at the latest at least at this point that we have information on that being said, that's a segway Segway and hey, I didn't start that segway. Oh someone else did um anyways, uh, so That our second topic is just the future of the switch and then The future of their next platform, which obviously we don't know what their next platform is Uh, but Nintendo had their financial results and shintara furakawa came out and was like, yeah We're gonna sell, you know 15 million this fiscal year. Oh really? Well, you know, we're really not that confident that we're actually gonna sell 15 million I don't think we're gonna do it, but that's the number we're putting out there I'm paraphrasing here, but furakawa basically sounded The most shaky I've ever heard somebody sound when they say we're gonna sell 15 million Maybe that's something to do with the fact that the last year they said they were gonna sell 21 million And then they revised the 20 then they revised to 18 and they technically didn't even hit that So I I think it's a lot of uh, hey, we know we're gonna sell less. We don't really know how far down it's gonna go Uh, we're gonna just throw 15 out there and we're gonna hope that we hit 15 We're probably gonna revise this in the future and he made some weird note By the way to try to spin it to be positive no matter what where he said if we sell 10 million No nintendo systems ever done that in year seven and I sat there and i'm like You're gonna try to make this sound positive no matter what happens. Aren't you buddy? Aren't you buddy? Um, anyways He obviously knows what's coming and what's in the pipeline, uh, but what's interesting actually was on top of that People asked them. Hey, you know like in your 15 million. Does that include the a new system? Like was it a pro or two because you know it could be called switch and it'd be the same family Could be the 15 million is like we are not, you know paraphrasing here We are not counting any unannounced hardware in our current sales projections for switch Uh, which does not mean what many of the headlines ran with Oh, yeah, I thought no switch this year like that's not what he said He said he's not counting any unannounced hardware in their current projections Nintendo's never counted unannounced hardware in their current projections never happened in history He's just repeating what nintendo's always done He didn't actually say whether there will be or not But what got conflated was because bloomberg quoted a nickay asia article In their report on this and nickay asia said they were the ones that gave a get update We're like, hey, this is things actually progressing really well this next switch Also, it's not going to come out until after april of 2024 And that's what nickay was hearing from not even someone who works at nintendo Someone close to nintendo which typically means manufacturing Question did they say because I I read to an article on the cam bloomberg Maybe this is my my revisionist history in my brain, but I thought they said spring and not specifically april Or is there another part that says specifically april? Yeah, there was a part that says specifically april 2024. Yeah, um But that doesn't really matter. I want to grab the exact center for a common quote here Just to make sure I'm not misquoting him um, let me see here it was Where we go here, um There he's he said no new or upgraded hardware is factored into nintendo's annual forecast Which is exactly what nintendo does every single time so they could have a new system come out But it's just not counted right now Why would they put that in their forecast at the moment because that would just be telling everyone it's coming Yeah, and then like oh you should wait and buy this instead of buying Yeah, so it like they can't for like many different reasons they can't and the wording is important because you know People always tell us that nintendo can't lie to investors. You're right. They can't so they carefully word things This wording sort of just leaves the door wide open. Oh, they might drop it this year If they feel like they need to is what the wording sounds like um, but That kind of gets into this whole conversation like what is the future of the switch and when the hell is this thing coming because now it's just We're kind of entering unknown territory nintendo's at gamescom this year They are now saying that hey, they're trying to tie packs west into their nintendo live thing Mentioning again that there's going to be game demos there. Okay, so they clearly got games coming And then we have that whole uh, jeff grub and andy robinson going out there being like hey There probably isn't a direct this june and what the hell's going on? thoughts Well, what's going on? Well, um, you said I didn't I didn't see his report until you said it So mate the hate's now saying prime 4 is likely coming out this year. Yeah, that's what that's what he's heard But you know Right. Well, I mean if that's happening, right? I've been talking about for a while I think prime 4 is going to get a big push from nintendo. I think they want to push it up another tier Right, so they may want to pivot it as they'll probably be like another like more casual game side by side with it But they may want to push it as like the big core game for the holiday And if that's the case and there is no switch to this year Then they're going to want to market the hell out of that Market it at gamescom market it at at packs like they may be pushing that throughout the year to make sure maybe it It's like the best like metroid, you know That's one possibility The other possibility is in the case just wrong and switch 2 is coming out this year and they're announcing it this summer um, but you know If the case pretty reputable so it I feel I I don't think I should I should be like Oh, I think Nikkei is wrong like They're pretty reputable. They've been wrong though when it comes to these timing. They've been really off sometimes They were also one of the people that said switch pro was coming two years ago so like So like they got caught with their pants down on that too. So like it's one of those nikkei is not 100% Here's the thing nikkei always has sources at manufacturing But what we found out with manufacturing sources is they don't really know the release data products They just know their schedule on what they're doing to manufacture products So when they have to get them ready by yeah, so they're like, oh It's not going to be by them because their contacts at one manufacturer Aren't ramping up till maybe the end of the year. Okay. That doesn't mean other manufacturing plants weren't ramping up this entire time and they are contacts weren't aware of that so like That that's kind of how we're in a case sometimes gets caught up But it is nice to hear like progressing well sort of means like they're pretty far along with whatever this next device is like Progressing well sounds like we're ready to mass produce eventually here I also find hard to believe there's not another mario game coming up this year I feel like there's got to be that because of those zippo rumors now zippo says there's four mario that that was one thing Good old zippo Good old zippo I do tend to believe personally the nikkei report more I think for akawa's boy like that it was funny how that whole story got conflated and you literally saw like Oh IGN Yeah, that was wild someone close to nintendo the headline is is that nintendo says so that was messed up in and of itself But I I've kind of been in that mindset since tears of the kingdom came out because we all had this conversation You know months and months back. Here's the kingdom. There's no more powerful switch There wasn't a new console announced alongside of it kind of didn't feel like holiday 2023 Just like you know six months plus after that game comes out is when you drop a new console I almost feel like it would have launched the new console if it was that close to it spring next year though However, I do think it's it's at least time to know what's going on with it If not actually have it in our hands and then I also think that an announcement makes a ton of sense this year Maybe six months before it comes out which would kind of shoot nintendo in the foot for holiday sales But not necessarily for casual gamers just people like in the know with knowing that a new switch is on the way So they still capitalize on certain holiday sales, especially and maybe I think there's translations now coming out They're saying like they're not planning a price drop But I figure now it's your new switch But then do a price drop to the current lineup of families of systems over the holiday season and you still sell Everything just fine. Yeah, they might not do that But I do think they have to have software and that's where I was going to say the 2d mario I think a 2d mario makes sense to come out on the current switch At the holiday season and be a holiday game and hopefully Metroid Prime 4 But I'm not I don't know. I'm not as confident in that you pair those two together. You throw some uh, Some pokemon dlc and yeah You still have a solid close out of the maybe like a remaster from gamecube and call it a day Right. That's zero gx finally. Maybe yeah, that was your door. Maybe who knows Yeah, that one's rumored Yeah, the Donkey Kong game has been rumored for like three years Donkey Kong No, it's it's totally real. It's totally happening. I'm just kind of like, I don't know if they maybe they savor switch too That's that's just kind of like I I think they can they can do some smaller releases Towards the end of the rest of this year on the current switch and then just come out guns blazing in spring next year I mean that's I think that that's what happens and we see we see the 3d mario You know, we see the big odyssey 2 or whatever it ends up being called and maybe even a donkey kong That's going to come out a few months after and then maybe metro I don't know. I feel like Metroid Prime 4 comes out on the new switch at this point But I I mean who knows I mean tears of the kingdom You would have thought like, you know, they would have done something with that But it depends on how they're marking the system like there's there's so many different variables So you're saying that's weird to me All right, and correct me if I'm wrong But march 2021 That that fiscal year reporting they reported 28.8 million sold right there was their peak year the pandemic year Yep, right and then so the fiscal year ending in march 2022 they reported 18 million sold so they went down No, 23 23. Yeah, so from 28 to 23 and then To 18 which is most recent right and so now they're forecasting 15. So there's a clear Downward thing happening. It's a downward trend and it's been for more than three years And they still haven't announced a new system As far as I'm aware that has never happened in Nintendo history So there's this thing going on but at the same time what's weird because where does this price drop debate? They've never dropped they haven't dropped the price to switch yet and we're approaching we're we're six and a half years in No more than that We're Yeah, so we're it's about six and a half We're six plus we're six plus years in right so we're six plus years in no price drop Yet, we're looking at three street years three straight years of a downward trajectory in sales And no system has been announced That is such a weird combination because Nintendo could do a price drop If they wanted to bolster sales and they haven't I think something has to have something like I think price is a price drop something happens holiday Here's what I think happened, right? This is just a theory I've had and I've had this for a while When they made this initial deal with Nvidia They actually made quite a bit of money because there was a bunch of these chips just sitting on a shelf Because Nvidia went hardcore thinking the shield was going to be a big deal Didn't pan out so nintendo got this great deal. The chip sitting on the shelf Uh, and that's cool. That's why the chip that's in the original version ones, which is basically identical You know modified. It's basically it's just had some stuff turned off and Underclap and it's basically the exact same chip that was in the original Nvidia shield Uh, and over time What's happened is everyone has moved on to smaller and smaller manufacturing nodes to make more chips per run And nintendo is still on this old, you know, I can't anymore is it 16 nanometer whatever the hell it is Process that they're using to make these dams these damn things on and it turns out that where technology usually gets cheaper In this case it isn't getting cheaper because nobody uses that processing node anymore But nintendo And and video themselves they shut down their their own shield tv and their own Like hey, we don't use this crap in any of our stuff anymore because it's just too expensive Why would we not just go to a new processing node? Um, and nintendo hasn't done that So I think what's happened is the price of switches might have actually gone up a little bit Now you have old ed panels in it now the the chip price has actually gone up because nobody's making these chips anymore except for nintendo And I think it's led to this thing where nintendo kind of realized. Hey We can't really we might actually sell it a loss if we drop the price and that sounds so insane To think that but it's like this unique situation with the mobile tech that Every other mobile chip manufacturer is like we're talking four nanometers today two nanometer five nanometer eight And they're still like using this really old school We can only make x amount of wafers per run whenever one else is making triple the wafers per run And all a bunch of manufacturing lands by nvidia got shut down So and they added a more expensive screen in like that just doesn't usually happen either So I I think we're just in this sort of unique situation where nintendo doesn't think that they I mean And and something to back this up a little bit. I had a theory about this because we had themed switches and stuff before But they didn't really up the price of the switches But themed olads for some reason they think they could just add $10 more Right, it's 360 not 350 for themed olads. That's what's between three one was that's what the Pokemon was and zelda and I'm wondering if it's because it's like hey um We we really aren't making that much money on these Let's just get a little bit of extra profit by taking advantage of some fan bases because people don't really realize our margins aren't great right now You know, it's funny. I would I would arguably like the the base olad more Just because it was white joy cons. Well, the white joy cons are nice. That was the perfect the launch by metro I do that would they should have sold those standalone. I don't think they do right there I don't think you can there's a lot of colors of joy because they don't sell standalone, especially in certain regions I had to go to japan to get those red joy cons that went with the um, yeah You bastard go into japan. I don't even I don't want to even talk about you going to japan right now Japan again That's again, listen. Yeah, that's again Listen, hey, yo, I'm not stopping you from going to japan. No, my my my bank account stopped me from This stuff I it was I had to be saving up for that man. No, I I bet I bet see I got three kids I don't know what the savings is anymore um, you could sell one That's a joke. I would never that's a joke. I'm sorry. It's funny. They made that kind of joking. Hey arthur Yes, they did. Yes, they did wait. They say hey arthur not arthur arthur No, but it's I thought it was called. Hey arthur, but it's no it's all right. It's arthur It's funny They got away with the joke back in the day, but now it's a meme because it's like wait what? It's just like that one. It's just like the phone call Whatever that phone call meme was about can't do something and then I can't whistle or whatever Oh I can't whistle either It's so savage right like you don't even realize so savage some of those old cartoons or sometimes um anyways Look, I don't know what's gonna happen here guys like Nintendo's got plans for for the rest of this year. I mean, I'm still on the switch too It's coming this year train and I'm not gonna get off it until We we get to the next announcement and it's not that Uh, if they have a direct and it's like, oh, here's a bunch of games for switch. Okay, then we're not getting it But until then like oh, I hear oh, there's no direct in june. Okay Well, I mean why are we not doing something in june? We got nothing after pikmin Hmm, but you're gonna have games at gamescom and you're gonna have games at nintendo live So clearly you're gonna have to announce games at some point not doing in june. What are we waiting for? What are you trying to get away from the competitors for some reason? We want to get away from them. You gotta love. We want our own slide right now. It's it's it's rough Like we want our own time. Okay. So what do you need? Well, we we don't want to overshadow pikmin Okay, so you're gonna wait till after pikmin so august What are we doing? No See, I'm just I'm just throwing it out there that you know what yeah, that could be what it is Well, let me let me come back to this this part of the equation future redeemed coming out in the way it has Like they didn't need to do this. I am rush. I'm rushing. I'm busy, right? I'm a busy person So I don't I can't play a game for four hours a day. Usually like I can't unfortunately Or I just don't sleep one or the other but anyways It's hard for people to finish future redeemed in time to play chooses to kingdom And there's a good amount of overlap the most notably fans are Zelda fans. So Nintendo put this out there Why did they put out an april? Right after advanced wars by the way And when people were expecting it not to come out until june like it wasn't like I think most notably fans are prepared to play the game at future redeemed in june. I was June is vacant. Why not then? The only thing I can think is that maybe they were like, huh Well, too, the kingdom was going to come out in may But it's going to be such a big game that even four to five weeks later or even six weeks later It would get overshadowed like that's the only thing I can think that would make sense besides or they're getting they're clearing their sleep Yeah, so the other thing is oh, they're hearing they're not hearing anything about a direct in june They don't announce systems and directs Mm-hmm Just growing out there. It could just be hey, we're going to just drop This announcement trailer out in nowhere. No one's going to know what's coming because unlike last time We're not going to tell you it's happening We're just going to shadow drop the next system. It's not really a shadow I mean, it's a surprise announcement. It's sort of like at The game awards when no one was expecting any system to be there and all of a sudden Here's xbox series x and help lead to like it's one of those situations. It's just a surprise It's like, oh, everyone's doing this cycle. You got summer game fest Then you get to like the third week of june and the nintendo is like, oh I will I will system this holiday. It would be nice if they actually crazy if they actually pulled like an apple And it was like here's the new system Here's all the features and you can pre-order it right now and it'll be to you You know, it'll be at your your house in like two and a half weeks Oh, yeah, the apple thing is crazy when they do that Just like a september like the direct happens or no, it would be the other way around the console announcement happens Then the direct I'll tell you this they announced to hardware. Uh, they announced to hardware guys I'm going to nintendo live impacts west. Oh, yeah I'm just I'm just saying I'm going to play it screw that I won't wait I do believe that the turnaround between the announcement release is going to be shorter than the turnaround for switch It's gonna be led. It's gonna be less than six months. It might be like two to three They don't really need to make it like what is the purpose behind making it six months Like you get a longer marketing ramp up But they don't like with the user base and the engagement that they have on the switch You take advantage with nso if they say that things backwards compatible and All your nso games playable day one. Yep. Oh, and by the way, we're gonna launch it A new system on their day one or whatever and because we can't run on switch. I don't know game cube Oh They're gonna go all of our best-selling games are gonna have day one patches to get like 60 fps and 4k or whatever Uh, and then they're and they're just be like, yeah, it's everything you know and love about switch, but bigger better And and and now they they announced like Also, then they just do like a sizzle reel of third party games coming call of duty assassins greed yada yada yada They just start doing like and it's like the new ones not the old ones Um, and so it's kind of like hey, you're gonna get all the nintendo games bigger and better And then ever and you're gonna get all the third party games and that's like their selling point Instead of it being like it's a we for you dumb Just dumb um, they're actually like no, this is a badass system that makes our games way better And now we're finally good enough to get all of the other stuff and We're gonna just party rock it for the next four years and just take advantage of the switch momentum That's a dream, of course, by the way, this is nintendo not falling off the cliff That's the dream. I kind of feel like if they hang it off the 24 They wait till like holiday 2024 and switch is selling under 10 million. That's like to me they they hit the cliff They're their finger nail hanging on the cliff my Melting it too long. Yeah, and I'm not a sales expert I also feel like sales experts get it wrong all the time But my opinion is that it doesn't come out this holiday. They're dropping the ball a little bit Yeah, the only way I can give them the excuse. Let's say they they have the mario Metroid and um some killer gamecube game that can actually sell decent this holiday fine If they're launching it early next year, they can get away with the early 2024 If they also have a price drop you throw in a price up there You gotta price up the current switch with with the launch definitely. Yeah. Yeah, but That that I will say they can get away with that but waiting till holiday 2024 I feel like you are thou doing what they did with we and you're letting it die I agree. It has to come it has to come out early 2024 Yeah, at the latest if not holiday 2023. I'm on board with that. I would rather that obviously. I mean, yeah Look, look, I'm ready to retire the billions of switches that I bought and get into something new There are there are some interesting comments though From the q and the q and a investor They've been translating more of like the exact call and everything and there was a couple things I was reading earlier one of which was saying the importance around nintendo and them focusing on their switch user base that they have today And literally like something along the lines of carrying it forward to the new console That some people are doing the headlines of this more or less is backwards Compatibility is going to be there and I think it's a given it has to but then also there was another one that was like talking about how They they'll talk about new hardware when they feel like they have the right new creative idea or like they're focusing on new creative ideas all the time You know, and so I am like there's like some yeah There's something in the back of my mind that just worries that nintendo really truly believes at the core of their company That they have to have some new gameplay gimmick for this new system that is different We brought glasses 3 3d back everyone. I just i'm like i'm so I like to get in their own way and mess themselves up. I don't think that they will do it this time I think they know what they have to switch We'll maybe be like hey, let's not be dumb because yeah, here's the thing Furukawa the number one thing he's been preaching If you pay any attention to the investor's meetings from the moment he got you took over was I'm gonna do everything I can to not have the cliff happen. I've been here too long. I've seen it happen too many times No, we are not going to have the cliff happen But then if you just let the creatives do their creative thing and Miyamoto Dance around and be like dude We need to make maracas as our next controllers and just all this crazy stuff and you just blow the fan base You just built up Like I just think he's too business focused to be like no no no no We're not going to let this happen. I am you know, I must say they're not they're not smart But I am business savvy enough to actually look at what the competition has done mainly playstation to maintain a user base system the system to sit how that's the one thing we haven't been able to do is maintain How do we maintain? So I think that there that this this particular person will pay attention to that because he's more of a numbers person And might be willing to be like you're like thinking the same thing we do Hey, when he saw when he says 15 million and then he's like shaky on it like I don't really think we're actually gonna sell 15 million. It's like Oh Then you are admitting it's time, right? Like you're just admitting right now that it's time But you're just not announcing like it's time So I like I want to give a thought on that and then after that I actually have yeah Yeah, we're gonna be rapping And then my thought is that I feel there's going to be a middle ground with Full car in charge. I feel there's going to be a middle ground where like I would hate for nintendo's creativity to be limited Because I mean that's like what produces some of the best stuff like you know when it comes to What the console is capable of creatively was so I feel there's going to be a good middle ground Where it's going to have a gimmick where it be a switch a direct switch successor or the next console I think there is going to be a gimmick, but it's going to be tame like a lot more tamer than What like the Wii U will like, you know focus on the asymmetrical gameplay with the game Which by the way was good. It's just I didn't have a lot of software to like back it up. Um And I feel as a I feel in itself with the switch Even though like a lot of people's like, oh this gimmick is so good That's like replicated with tablet gaming all stuff and then you know, hey, we have two Controllers here with the two joy cons and then they make one controller I feel that that gimmick is really really cool But at the same time I felt it was a lot tamer in recent years and that's why a lot of it like, you know There's a lot of success behind The switch especially considering that it takes a lot of inspiration for both the Wii and Wii U before it And whatever comes next I feel is going to lean Like if we look at the spectrum, it's going to lean a little bit more just by a smidge over to the hardcore market But it's still gonna have aspects of like, you know that nintendo Weird creativity to it that will allow, you know nintendo's own people to get, you know wild with that But then not dissuade third-party developers like hey, we can actually put our console We can actually put our console games here and not be worried that like, you know Call of duty. What was that one on the week call of duty? Like it was modern warfare call do you modern warfare world war? No, no, no world that war. No, no, it was it was modern warfare But they had this really ghost subtitle. No, it was it was modern warfare But it has subtitle under it for the weaver just specifically like like like No, I'm gonna pull this up Yeah reflex edition so like if we don't get another Call of duty reflex edition on this way. Do you like oh we want to put our game here? We got a Limited so much to put it on a console. That's kind of weird Microsoft buys activision blizzard. It's supposed to have content parody. We'll see. Yeah, we'll we'll we'll see we'll see But guys like I gotta be out like later, man. Go subscribe to hmk everyone. Great. Thank y'all so much I'll be seeing y'all next like next time you're here for me. I'll be in japan Let us Let's go All right. All right. I thought of tell me one of these things On how They can what you guys think about this for an announcement like they do they have a direct in june I know you said they don't they don't do hardware stuff in june, right or they don't do hardware stuff in directs But what it would be awesome is they go through the direct at the end they go, you know Here's the one big thing they know it's a big game and it's a trailer for a big game But in that trailer they're playing on the next system But then so but they don't say anything about it. They just let the people just sit on it the next day They drop a video saying did you eagle guys catch that in the last in the direct? Here's our new system I think it's more likely that that that they would do like a trailer for a big game But conveniently there's no switch reference There's no switch logo at the beginning like when the official trailer gets uploaded after the event There's no switch logo at the beginning with the click. There's nothing at the end. It's just here's a big game That would be a cool subtle way to do it. I don't think they'll do that because Nintendo's so like I have a little Oh, look at this new system and then like there's a new game like the mario game But we didn't announce it. Yeah, but it's teased on the screen. Have a good day. Karen's rooftop partying They they should they should do something creative with the announcement of this one But I guarantee you they're gonna drop a 7 a.m. 8 a.m. Trailer out of nowhere Here's the new nintendo switch to or here's the brand new console guys They might announce it ahead of time that they're gonna drop a trailer, but yeah, that's what they usually do. Yeah. Yeah It'd be fun to see them do something like that though We're they're I wish they would the game and that's playing somebody's playing on it But they don't say anything about it till like the next day Then they drop their release trailer and that's like it would be good. You know, you know what this sounds like Eric remember back in the old podcast is easy to come up with amazing ways to unveil things and then Some of us sounded plausible all because he pulled a we out of his inside jacket So like who knows what nintendo's gonna do next. They just never really did that again They did that with like a 3ds or with or ds in the we One interesting thing and I like to shoot this stuff down every now and then because I feel like it doesn't give nintendo credit Mark davis in the chat said nintendo should just stop making consoles altogether Because I don't think they can make ever make anything close to sony and microsoft and i'll tell you right now Sony and microsoft ain't making anything like switch. Are they? No, and they wish they were and they also are not I mean sony has good software sales But nobody's selling the kind of software that nintendo's selling if anybody looks like sony has good software sales Um, I don't think anything they've sold right now would crack the top 10 on switch No, it's it's insane and level And what they want to do is sell software to be clear like they like they like sony and microsoft both are losing money On the console itself and they're happy to do that because they know you'll buy enough software to make the profit there nintendo for whatever reason still likes to put out their Hardware at a profit and then if the console successful like with the switch They're also getting all of the software profit on top of that So they're winning in all aspects of their business like and now nintendo switch online is becoming 30 plus million users You know that are actively subscribed. They're getting that ball rolling It's they're they're they're hitting on every aspect of the business that sony and microsoft Wishes were popping off for them and just watch the recent I mean, I know sony's got a lot of their business in check with that but watch the recent phil spencer interview You know, there is a lot of companies out there that feel like they they can't they're trying to emulate what nintendo has done At this level in the current console environment we're in Yeah, like it's just one of those things where I understand wanting like Here's to the kingdom on a playstation 5. I get it. I I totally get it but also dude Giving let me just speak as somebody who really got back into gaming because of switch Nintendo doesn't always get it right Yeah, but what they do when they do get it right is provide a system that the other companies Won't even dare to attempt And that system often does something that wouldn't happen in the game industry without it Whether it's the nes with the d-pad Whether it is The we with the motion controls laugh at it at all you want It created a casual market that has persisted to this day Maybe they're all on mobile phones now. Don't know but they started that market It was also a blueprint for you know, a lot of other motion controllers If you love vr, nintendo kind of popularized that now It's weird that nintendo didn't take advantage of it and they weren't one of the leading vr companies But you know what nintendo sometimes just the catalyst They don't know they tried too early with virtual boy and got burned and never wanted to go back down that road And now we got cardboard The problem is that it vr is expensive nintendo They're playing around with it though those those patents. I mean they're playing around Yeah, but if they can pull it off at the right price point Yeah, and then and then you have and then you have things obviously like the the switch Uh, which for me it made console gaming accessible to a dad of three kids I don't get to just sit on a tv and play video games But I can on switch And that's awesome And and it's something that i'm sorry sony and microsoft aren't providing Um, I have a playstation 5 and xbox series x or series s. Um, I I like the games I'm still trying to beat final fantasy 7 remastered on my ps5 But I barely have time to sit down at a tv and play games But I have plenty of time to lay in my bed with julia before i'm going to bed Playing this you might go well just put it on your tv in your room. It's just it's not the same Not the same like it's just I there's something about what nintendo does with hardware that while maybe it ain't the best of the best It's just different and it's different in a way that ends up being useful again Not every generation, but when they hit it you want a company out there Realizing there's more demographics than just the same demographic That the other companies go after time and time again and just look at Well, some of this wouldn't be the same for nintendo Look at how hard microsoft struggles to compete head to head with sony trying to do the same thing And so now they're going subscription service based for everything Then you have nintendo going. Hey, we have the ip to go head to head Also, we don't want to go head to head. We don't want the same market We want to find that user out there that can't game But now can because of what we did and So I want to add on to that real quick to to your point with whenever nintendo figure something out Sometimes the other companies try to emulate it in a certain way And I think we know they figure something out with this hybrid concept two two different things one We saw microsoft and sony actually try to copy motion controls with connect and playstation move in the we era And then two right now the biggest reason that the cma is cma, right? That blocked the officially blocked them activation blizzard merger. It's their concerns over cloud gaming It's not even about call of duty. It's the fact that they realize that Five years from now when latency is not a thing anymore and people can just play on whatever device they want That is going to attract the masses in a at a different level And the switch is giving us that today Where we have triple a games that can be natively played without latency wherever we are at and that's what that they were first at that Even though it's not cloud technology. They were first delivering that experience to the user You know, which is that's just nintendo just hitting it out of the park They flop sometimes with their crazy creativity and then sometimes they just hit us the home run and then that's where they're at right now switch Yeah, I just hope that That nintendo doesn't make a mistake in the sense of they go back Um, they I think that they've shrugged gold here. I would like to think they understand that Um, and that they're going to do what it takes to maintain that and I'm concerned That waiting too long Will ruin that a bit, you know on the flip side, you know, I say that but they're still selling pretty strong software But it, you know, I think even their their software sales have dipped a bit, right? Or am I mistaken in that? I know there's there. Okay. I didn't look at all the numbers I know that their profit overall profit has gone down a bit. Is that just because of of dipping hardware sales or software sales? Also dropping a bit I didn't look at their overall number on softwares other than or software other than just what they put out on that main slide But I do know that the games. I mean splatoon being already over 10 million Plus you have, you know, pokemon scarlet and violet still very recent releases at 20 selling super. I mean they're selling incredible And mario kart 8 deluxe at 8 plus million copies sold like that's ridiculous You know, yeah Yeah, it's what that is insane. I mean you're getting up to grand theft auto territory Which isn't supposed to be possible for a console exclusive night. I mean not throwing the wii u sales no, it's just 70 mil what are we talking right now like? like Mario kart is going to outsell the ps5 I happily I happily bought mario kart 8 on the wii u in 2014 with no clue That this that that would be a 10 year supported game from nintendo that would ultimately be the most successful on the switch That's just it's mind blowing. It is. It is pretty crazy. And they're still selling to that 8 million copies at 60 bucks They they they package it into the holidays, but it's selling outside the holidays I thought that too like you see it in quarters come out. It's in the top 10. You're not even surprised Yeah, you see it when it's not attached to that and it's still doing those numbers like it's just there's that amount of people that It's always it's always covered in the top 15 on the e-shop and which that also sets up whatever is next for the next generation console They have a killer app when they come out with mario kart whether they brand at nine or 10 The hype around the next mario kart is gonna be massive It's gonna be next level there's gonna be more people looking forward to that than ever before no doubt Yeah, and the expectations though. They put the bar pretty high. They better not drop the ball But you know what? I don't care. You guys have had a decade to make a new one. You've had the time You've had the time mario kart ultimate. Let's go switch to launch title and just expand the library Ultimate every every track ever released. Oh, and by the way, we added 50 new tracks on top Oh, and we've added 20 new playable characters on top. Oh every multiplayer mode. We've ever done is They almost need to do that to keep up with where the It's kind of crazy because you look at some of some of their biggest games It's gonna be tough for nintendo with a normal development cycle to one up super smash bristle tonight To one up to now one up to the kingdom. I think mario kart 8 could still be one up I think I I believe it can but if you account for all the content included it with the booster Yeah, but if they look at it as we don't have to deliver booster course pass level of content with it We only have to deliver 50 tracks or 48 tracks When they might go because because they'll just say we decided up that we'll add more with dlc We created a dlc trend they could they could do it like swatoon where they promise two to three years of support or something Yeah, yeah, yeah, that guarantees will be dlc So then they can launch with what mario kart 8 had at the beginning of this generation Where I already had a dlc pack, but okay now you're looking at something a bit more reasonable 48 is still an insane Yeah, I'm to start with because The the previous um precedent was 32 Like that was and that and that hasn't always been 32 like I think they used to be like, let's just do eight They it's pretty good. Yeah So or is it 16? I don't know either way Okay, a new precedence you gotta launch for 48. Okay. Well, I mean they've had the time to do that Um, but they've also I mean, I'm pretty sure it's a separate team, but I mean they've been making new tracks Yeah, they may make a new tracks. They also work on another series at the time. Yeah, but um I mean, I can't imagine they haven't been thinking about what's next for mario karty since mario karty came out They have to mario kart's arguably their most important game I right now It for sure would have been an animal crossing this has now become like a super big deal like hey, we only release one per gen but I think the next deal when we do it the next mario kart would have been out if this Didn't just continue to skyrocket and just yeah I don't think I will sell 10 20 mil. Yeah, we'll launch a new one in 2020 the booster course pass was a pivot Whatever they realized wait a minute. This thing isn't slowing down like let's we got a team on tour Let's bring over those tracks. Let's bring in some brand new ones. Let's do this thing, you know Carry it through the rest of the generation. How long is it gonna take them to make the next zelda? I hate to say it, but I think we're gonna crack seven years I for next mainline 3d If we're just saying a new zelda game in general, I think we'll get one in two to three because I think we're gonna top down Well, I think we're gonna zelda almost every year, but if we're well, yeah, you can call remasters But I mean I'm just talking about like A brand new mainline zelda. I think there'll be a top down one. So because of that, we will get one within two or three years Um, I think rezzos or someone's already working on it. Like it's already Yeah, sure. I believe but But uh, in terms of like the zelda team itself pumping out another one because it's very clear with the success of of tears of the kingdom and breath of the wild Suppose it's the success of tears of the kingdom That they need to keep going with the big 300 plus member teams and just going all out because the sales are just Stupid you'd be stupid not to do it. Yeah, it's too profitable not to do it So and you look at that that they probably won't go away from open world not now This seems like the new era just like a link to the past set up the formula then I think this open world things the formula now For the big 3ds all the games I I do think that you know seven years isn't impossible But I think they might be looking in ways to maybe get it out a bit quicker than that And I think it's going to depend largely on what the plan is if the plan is A third game in the breath of the wild style Um, that's also a direct sequel again I think it actually come out a bit quicker because I think it is something that already They would have already started having ideas for it while making this one to set up the next However, that's assuming that's what it is if it's something completely brand new I think it's going to be largely dependent on what the scope is Are the if they're going to go for the scope of tears of the kingdom Then yeah, it could take seven years if they're going to go for something smaller but more content rich Then maybe we're looking more like four If they're using the same engine of course, I mean they just had to reinvent the engine again That's I mean My thing it is worth mentioning. Sorry real quick. It is worth mentioning that tears of the kingdom was developed over the pandemic So yeah, I don't think I don't think it would have been I don't think the plan wasn't for it to be a 2023 Yeah, I I agree with that But I also thought that by working on a sequel the idea was to get a new Zelda out quicker And that is absolutely not the case Even if it came out a year sooner, that's still a long time. Well, you're sooner would have been normal Five years between three diesel this is pretty normal Uh, we've had a rare case where two came out really close together. Sure But besides that it's almost always been fine But you see my point though, right? Five years would be normal between two desaldas that aren't direct sequels of each other Yeah, this was a direct, you know, so like I Get that and I I'm not trying to slight tears of the kingdom. I think it's we talked about earlier I think it's going to be the greatest of all time, but it's just kind of like I thought that initially when the announcement was a sequel I thought the idea was okay. Let's rectify this issue of zillas taking longer and longer to come out I think this ended up being the largest gap ever and I understand the pandemic factors into that But still it was if it was even going to be comparable to a normal development cycle for a brand new Zelda from the ground up Yeah, I think I think the plan was 2021 when they announced it in 2019 I thought they figured we're aiming 2021 That's what I think too. Yeah the pandemic hit and they all got sent home and that messed up everything And that's what made it two more years in addition. I I do think that's what I think I wonder if they'll get addressed in an interview. I wonder if someone's gonna ask this like I I know my hey Did the pandemic affect the development of this game like to make it take longer? I wonder if someone's gonna ask that question. Maybe we'll get an answer. I have no idea Maybe it feels like an obvious answer Every other developer out there that's delayed games has literally already brought up the pandemic caused the delay Zelda team's the only one to not say anything about it It's worth mentioning though, too that the um Zelda team is like notorious for I could just imagine them Thinking they're going in one direction and you know what? It's it's comfortable to communicate that the game is going to be out in like, you know Three years. So let's drop the trailer now. We'll let people know it's coming It'll for sure be there by then and then they start getting into the Depths of really creating what they want to create and they just keep expanding like I imagine That's going to take an extra six months. Maybe we shouldn't go to no Let's let's take the time it and you know, we want to make it the perfect experience I'll never forget You know waiting for twilight princess to release and granted that got pushed to we and gamecube dual release But my game stop receipt that I'd paid for the game on can the ink had completely worn out Off the receipt by time I went to go pick up the game because it had been delayed that many times from when I paid for it Like the zelda team is notorious for that Very unique with the last two zelda releases or the one that releases now in the breath of the wild Um because if you think about it, you know skyward store came out. Uh, what in was that 2010? 2011 2011 Yeah, okay, so Originally breath of the wild supposed to come out in 2015 They said it multiple times. They even said it and the damn game awards Like they were confident then and then all of a sudden two months later It's delayed they would have known that the game awards if they were If the delay was because they needed more time to develop the game Clearly the delay was because an executive decision was made This is too big. We're spending too much money. The system's a flop. We need to push it to the next Okay, fine But the game In theory might have been able to be released holiday 2015. It would have been just fine It didn't really look like there was anything off track Um, and if that's the case that would have just been four years between releases And if we look at if the pandemic that happened it might have just been four years between the releases again So it's sort of weird that both of these games had something happen That caused them to come out later and yet none of it might have been none of it's is normal Like it might not take Seven years because I don't think the current games under normal circumstances when it took seven years Yeah, but I also feel like it's become a pattern for Zelda games to take longer than expected I think it just in a way It's a good thing because they're going to want to one up to the kingdom Right, they're gonna they're gonna they're like they they wound up supposedly like they've wound up breath the wild Right, the breath was the biggest all the game ever and she was going to surpass that After a while, they're gonna be they may start. What do they do if there's no underwater in this game? Underwater's next baby to the moon is next baby outer space Of me. I don't even I don't even know what they do We're going trains We're going trains and on a we're going to four different continents as big as breath of the wild They're probably gonna have to concept and think about this for like a year or so before they start developing an earnest um, as they've said so, you know They may not know I guess I think they know Do I I'd like do you do Hyrule again, or do we go away from Hyrule usually it's Hyrule, but they just change the time I think right now the zelda team's already working on what's next. Well, this is just what anomas is an We do we do we never we never stop working This is what he basically says. Yes, and I'm sure they have a team working on DLC I don't think all 300 members of the zelda team are working on DLC I think some of that teams are already working on what's next and they already know what's next They might not know how what's next going to turn out yet Unless unless they've already pre decided which they would have did during the development of this game That there's going to be another one But if it's a brand new one, yeah, maybe they're in the conceptual stages now But they're in the conceptual stages and I don't really think it takes a year and a half I think what happens is they get an initial idea They start working on it and they just keep adding ideas and adding ideas until they get to a point that someone's like All right. No. No, you got to stop No, not happening. No, and it's undeniable this next one's going to be on the next harbor Even if you're the guy that thinks the switch is going 10 years This next zelda games on the next harbor for the next by the way, if you think the switch is going for 10 years Like it it's gonna there are people that go back to that quote where they said seven to ten and they said it's 10 They said seven to ten. It's 10. Okay. Yeah, but I know I know you know, but I just saying it for some people listening 10 means It's entire lifespan meaning it's going to coexist with other systems So, yeah I don't think the new system comes up and if you want proof actually that the switch is going to coexist for a little bit Nintendo's european research and development team had a hiring post up for somebody to handle cross-platform play between nintendo switch and basically redacted next generation redacted so Nintendo's already planning for the switch to still sell after the new system comes out by having some of their games be cross-platform So maybe all of them who knows And where do they learn that trick from? Look across the aisle the sony who's been doing it for multiple generations now How you handle a console generation you don't you don't just cut it out No, it's weird because it does feel like they're not making ps4s anymore Which is just that might have been a strange pandemic thing. We're like, hey, we just can't make both We just can't make both right now So that might have been a really unique situation But that's not what happened before they were still making ps3s well into ps4 being out ps2s Obviously went well into ps3 So like I didn't intend to find this on both for a while And that's why I said trickle sales of switch still might get it to be the number one selling system of all time If they're going to still sell it for another three years But yeah, that doesn't mean it won't be something new out there Those uh those stripped down 99 dollar wheeze. We're still selling well after the Wii U came out too You know, I like maybe not in large quantities But and there wasn't like true cross-platform support But to my point like I think you could actually bring out the switch to even if for some reason It wasn't backwards compatible, which I think it will be There's still going to be a natural lifespan that people pick up a discounted console You know as the new one is selling and where we're at now If they don't announce it until the end of this year or 2024 You could hypothetically see how that would last A couple more years of selling at a discounted price even just a switch today Let me go buy their kid a you know, $150 switch light or $100 $200 switch base model then with the kind of library that it has Yeah, all right. Well, I think that's going to wrap up our show Uh today because we got to spend a little time afterwards waiting to refer to render So we can get the audio version up because I want the audio version to go up before tears of the kingdom actually launches So so we're in a bit of a time crunch tonight Uh, I do want to thank everyone for being here. Thank you all of our guests. Thank darin earlier Sorry about your power outage man. You can go follow him on twitter at real durn. It's linked down in the description Uh hmk as well. I'm sure one of our moderators can go, uh pop off um You know in in the chat here. We got chat commands our moderators can throw it up Uh, so go go subscribe to hmk. I know he's on his road to 200 000 subscribers to go, uh, but check him out Uh, we got uh, andre's restart here. I'm just gonna say to screw it. He's on his road to 100 k Let's let's just let's just go all the way Um, go subscribe to his channel, baby Let's do it You guys like my content and a lot of you love especially my zelda stuff You need to go watch his zelda content It is at a completely different level than what i'm doing And he's very respectful of spoilers as well. Obviously once the game is out. I don't know what his content plans are, but Just he'll be very obvious if it's a video you want to watch So go check out his stuff. He's also as he was teasing earlier metroid. It's the way to go He's gonna be all over that metroid. He loves metroid if metroid prime four is coming out this year My gosh. Yeah Metroid content is awesome And then We have to say some donation on here. You guys can go check him out as well Uh, we we'll put links in the chat for him too. He does a lot of new stuff Uh, he's always on top of those e-shop sales and everything else Uh, you want to tease anything you got going on bud? Uh, the only thing is I am going to do a rare live stream on tears of the kingdom launch day and play some of the early hours Look what tears of the kingdom's doing. Yeah, so besides my normal news videos, which is you know Five six seven a week depending but yeah tears of the kingdom will get me to live stream it So i'm excited to do that on launch day. Yep. Cannot wait to be afternoon time I'm not gonna pull the 12 hour nate schedule shout out to you for That's that's that's next level. You know what though? I'm killing myself for fun. So I'm I'm going with that Yeah, that's awesome. So I'm going back to the high school days pretending. I don't have children We'll see how many days that julia allows me to pretend. I don't have kids. I don't I'm not sure I'm taking pto for my job. You're taking pto from your family. It's all right Zelda's here I'm not giving up time with julia because I'm done at 8 p.m. So I still get to hang out with her at night Yeah, I'm taking a break from the kids. I guess um I say that they're gonna be down your banging on that or dad. I want my tablet Um, you broke it remember? Uh Yeah, uh, i'm just you got anything coming up. You want a teaser to just like, you know, we don't know what's happening It's here's the kingdom's coming out Yeah, um, there will probably be something timeline related to zelda coming out In less than 48 hours um And I mean there's going to be something zelda tomorrow too because of their reviews coming out and Well the interviews so there's there's a lot of zelda stuff coming pretty much every day I got at least two videos tomorrow guys. We got we got the interviews and they're releasing both tomorrow So I'll probably if they're assuming they risen both at the same time. I'll put them in one video And then reviews when we go over that. So I got at least two videos tomorrow. Who knows what else? Yeah, I'll also be streaming like most people zelda. Um tomorrow, I guess I'm streaming Breath of the Wild But starting friday, it'll be tears of the kingdom. Nice. What time you streaming it on friday? I haven't decided yet. Um, I mean also i'm at 8 a.m. I'm locked and loaded Yeah, I I won't do it'll be in the evening In the evening that I'll stream it. So will that be when you first play it or are you gonna play? No, I'm it's gonna I'm gonna be I'm gonna play it midnight midnight on my own record footage and You know just get that private experience and then I'll have my second playthrough be live. Okay, cool. Yeah Um, all righty then and yeah, Eric, um, I don't know what you got going on other than not being here next week Yep, but well, you know guys next week's show is actually at noon central time Kit and krister are coming on. So is my nice I hope andre's research going on. I I've already brought it up with the way. He hasn't de-committed yet So I think we'll be good even though we probably want to be playing tears of the kingdom instead at the time Is You know, we get the stuff at noon. Yeah at noon. Well, maybe not at noon one year time. It'll be yeah one year time It's feasible. Yeah, it's feasible. It's feasible. Anyways. Yeah, it's just a special thing Every time we have Kit and krister on they can't do anything but like right at noon That's like what fits in their schedule. So we just kind of adjust things around here They're only on like Were they on two months? I don't know. They're in a couple months ago. Yeah Yeah, so I'll probably be on a few more times if you guys like and they clearly liked us. So they're coming back They asked me That's kind of cool Former nintendo employees who knew that I'd leave such an impression Maybe maybe they don't actually watch my content because then maybe they wouldn't want to be here All right guys, thank you so much for being here next time we see you guys in the podcast Here's the kid will be out. We'll have basically first impressions popping off It's gonna be a lot of fun a lot a really cool Interesting discussion with everyone having played the game. It's gonna be great Have a good rest of your day