 Good evening and welcome to tonight's council meeting before we start our council meeting I'd ask Madam City Clerk Richards to read our quotation of the week. Thank you Mayor. To accomplish great things we must not only act but also dream, not only plan but also believe. Thank you Madam City Clerk. And one brief announcement. Today is the last meeting of the old council and tomorrow is the first meeting of the new council and that will also be televised for the public. It's also when during the first council meeting of the new council the new alderman gets sworn in. I'll call the 26th regular meeting of the Common Council Rewarder, Madam City Clerk would you please call the roll. Bauman. Dieberg. Eberg. Serda. Davis. Graf. Kittleson. Manny. Excuse. Meyer. Montemayor. Radke. Sagali. Stefan. Sushia. Van Ackren. And Vanderweel. 15 present. Quorum is present. Alderman Radke would you please lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you Alderman Radke. Approval of minutes. President Drogf. And the same stand. Poole. That's not on the record. Motion to second. Is there any discussion? There being none. All those in favor state aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Minutes stand to approve. Resignations. Attorney McLean. Thank you Your Honor. There's a card to the mayor from Arnold J. Martin advising that he's enjoyed his many years on the commission on aging but due to his medical condition he is resigning from the commission. That's for a motion to accept. Motion second to accept. All those in favor state aye. Aye. Any opposed? Resignation accepted. And there's a letter to the mayor from Scott Lubendowski advising the mayor that he must resign his term as member of the committee commission on aging even though his term is due to expire in April 2009 on the basis that he hasn't been able to make a lot of meetings. That's for motion to accept. All those in favor state aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Resignation accepted. And then finally there's a letter from Susan Hunley advising the mayor that she would not apply for another appointment to the Blue Harbor Resort Convention Center Committee in her last meeting would be April 6th of 2006. Also a motion to accept. All those in favor state aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Resignation accepted. Thank you attorney McLean. Public forum Madam City Clerk. Yes first on the list would be Jason Borden. Jason are you here? If you could just come up to the front here. And could you give me your home address Jason? 308 Park Avenue. Park Avenue? It's 53081. Okay and you will have five minutes sir. Thank you. Hi. Some of you know me some of you don't. My name is Jason Borden. I'm a veteran I'm a soldier and I'm also an American and I want to bring before you something that I'm asking for your help. I want to start by going back and telling you a story about 1991 when I returned from Desert Storm. We were the first unit that was activated deployed to Iraq or excuse me Saudi Arabia back when the war started Desert Storm. And we didn't get any send off or any recognition or anything when we left because we were activated and deployed so rapidly. However after 366 days I got on a plane I flew back didn't know what to expect we landed in Bangor main and as I got off the plane I had no idea that there was anything even left because most of the soldiers that had came in the deployment area would be flying after me had already left and come home so we expected just to get off the plane and go about our business to our next air base. However there was one thing that stuck out of my mind I got off the plane and I saw this huge American flag draped over the top of this this airport and all these people out there cheering and waving flags and as I continued to march in with my unit we walked into this airport and there were all these people with VFW hats and American Legion hats and they were shaking my hand and telling me thank you and I couldn't understand why they would tell me thank you. You know I mean here I am I'm just a truck driver that was over there you know to support my brothers and sisters in uniform for what they had to do and I didn't really realize how significant that would be but it affected me throughout all my life since then. Ever since then every time there's been something to do with the military or any of the soldiers that are deploying or coming home I felt it's my obligation because the amount of joy that these people showed me in Bangor, Maine was so important to me and while I was over there you know I didn't think a lot of what was going on back here in America except for once in a while I would get a letter from home or I'd get somebody to send me a newspaper that had somebody to display in the American flag or yellow ribbon. That was one of the things that kept me going. We saw some pretty hard times you know we thought a few times that we were hit with chemicals we traveled up to Kuwait City which was you know a pretty bad area through smoke that was so black that they looked at night and you know it makes you sit over there and wonder well is all this worth it? Is all this what we're supposed to be doing? Well the politics of the matter you know why we're there really didn't concern me as much as my fellow brothers and sisters in uniform because we understood why we were there was to protect the people beside us and because we believe in freedoms and liberties so much that we'd be willing to sacrifice and give it up for as long as we have to so other people would be ensured to have it. Now I was given the opportunity to do a welcome home for the 3 30th military police I don't remember I don't know if a lot of you remember it but we decorated downtown A Street. We had a wonderful ceremony and one of the reasons behind that was one of the soldiers had came home temporarily for a short leave in July and she was with Mr. Kaiser when he was killed over there in action and the family wanted me to say a couple words to the family and I got up there and I said the normal thing about how I thought she was a hero and you know she wouldn't even look the crowd in the eye she just sort of held her head down a little bit low and she goes you know I hear you calling me a hero but I don't think I'm a hero the people are the heroes are the ones that didn't come home with me that's why it was important for me to go out there and show these people that they were wrong, that they are heroes and Shaboygan came together in a fashion that I just I could not believe it was absolutely amazing the tears on the people's faces as they got off of their tears of joy for being back home in this reception that they got was absolutely wonderful well now we've got another situation Bravo battery out of Plymouth the 121st artillery unit has been activated and will be deployed over there with 182 members and I have had quite a bit of time to speak to quite a few of these soldiers in fact I'm Cole's personal friends with a couple of them and you know it seems to me like the common thing that I get from a lot of these soldiers it's like well we're going there because you know people are dying and we would like to at least be there with our brothers and sisters who are risking their lives it's not about the politics of war but it's the fact that there are American soldiers dying they're willing to risk their life to try to help that out it's like if your family's under attack regardless of what the reasons are what do you do you stand beside them so I ask you, you know these soldiers are out there thinking that nobody really thinks about the war they spend a lot of time going out and reflecting on what's happening and that these soldiers are deploying they think that a lot of people aren't even noticing the words not getting out there well I'm here to tell you I'm going to do everything within my power to try to prove them wrong that we all here in Sheboygan we are very patriotic and we love each and every one of those soldiers and we want to do what we can to give them a good send off now I've volunteered to help out with organizing the send off you may have noticed the yellow ribbons all the way down from 14th Street to the Armory I've done that with a few of my volunteers but what I'm asking for now is for the City Council to approve on the 21st is the day that they're going to be having their send off ceremony and they would like to have it at the Armory now I have spoke with the people at the Armory and there's a almost $800 bill for the Armory Jason would you like an additional minute you're five minutes or up but you may have an additional minute yes I'm sorry no that's quite alright I'll try to go quicker I'll lose my time and the Armory on the 21st they would like to have it and I'm sure if I sold a few things and try to raise money I could come up with it however these are American heroes they're leaving the country for how knows and who knows how long they may not even come back so I'm asking you as members of Sheboygan and the Common Council that you could see clear to maybe give us approval to have the Armory without cost for the 21st for the send off for these great American heroes and thank you very much for your time thank you Jason next on the list is Terry Van Akron Terry can you give me your home address please 1719 North 13th Street and you will have five minutes or I'll get six if I want one more and you get six if you want good evening everyone good evening mayor Common Council and guests it's great to be here again see so many good friends and faces that I've worked with in the past tonight I'm here for a couple reasons first of all I'm asking you not to change the city clerk's position to an appointed position it's one of the things that the people enjoy voting for and we have enough trouble getting people to get out to the polls so I ask you to not change that or if you're going to consider that change why don't you send it to a referendum first and ask the people if they'd be willing to give up that vote because it is their vote so at least do that second of all I'd like to congratulate the newly elected Alderman Jim Bourne who I see is here tonight congratulations Jim Bob Ryan Jean Kleinus is that correct? Kleinus Kleinus and of course my good friend Mark Hanna and his wife Debbie who are here tonight congratulations to you all you all and good luck in the upcoming year it's going to be a tough job but I'm sure you all appreciate it and thank you for running I'd like to also congratulate the returning Alderman Richard Manny who's not here tonight Jean Kittleson, Bonnie Serda congratulations Bonnie and Jean Silas van de Wille congratulations Silas Silas is from my district and I served with Silas congratulations Silas I'd also like to take a few minutes tonight to thank the four Alderman who are who this is their last meeting tonight and thank them for their service for the city of Sheboygan Marge Segali thank you Marge thank you for all your hard work working your commitment to Sheboygan I'm sure you'll still be involved in the city politics Dan Berg Dan I've known you and Pat for a long time congratulations and thank you for your hard work and I'm looking forward to continue working with you on our Monday morning breakfast with the county Bill Steffen Bill and I have been friends for a long time many years probably longer than both of us want to admit we served together on the county board we served together here on the common council Bill your knowledge and your common sense will be very missed you've represented the people of the 7th district well and I know you will continue to be involved if nothing else in my case in politics in this area thank you for your years of service on both the county board and the city council and thank you for being a good friend last but not least he's hiding behind flowers last but not least Alderman Van Ackeren my father Don Van Ackeren Alderman Van Ackeren represented the 2nd district for the last 19 years he was elected in 1987 you know many people don't realize it but I was actually elected before my father most people think since he's been here so long that he talked me into running but actually I can remember my first year when I was an Alderman I can remember going down to my dad's house and many times he'd be going why did you vote that way or what did you do that for and I said you know what why don't you run and here we are 19 years later my father's always my father and I always didn't agree when we served together many times we voted on different sides of many issues we served together on many councils for many years it made for an interesting roll call when they used to have to call D Van Ackeren and T Van Ackeren my father isn't the type of Alderman who got up and spoke every time just because he wanted to hear himself speak but I know that he was one of the most conscientious and hardworking Alderman behind the scenes he returned all the phone calls that he got as soon as possible and spent many hours meeting with his constituents my mother reminded me the other day of a time one night it was around midnight she said where my dad received the call in the evening and city dump trucks were dumping snow yeah Tom at midnight they were dumping snow in the neighborhoods and the clanging of the of the back of the truck was making a lot of noise so the neighbors called my father my father got up got dressed went down to where they were dumping the snow again it was 12 o'clock at night by this time the person who had called had blocked the entrance to the snow and had the trucks blocked in the police were there my dad was able to talk to both sides kind of calm things down was able before somebody got arrested was able to work with public works so that they wouldn't be dumping in the neighborhoods at midnight from that type so those are the type of things that many of you Alderman have to face not just these meetings but those type of constituents calls and you spend many hours it wasn't unusual to see my father after many hours of being here at meetings to then spend hours working with constituents on their needs or some of their problems Alderman Van Ackren you've represented the people of the second district very well over the last 19 years you've always stood up for what you believed in you voted what you believed were in the best interest of the taxpayers of Sheboygan the citizens of Sheboygan thank you for your years of service now as a spokesman for our family dad we're very proud of you and all the work you've done you've been a great example to all of us and we love you very much thank you dad okay next on the list is Dave Cooke Dave can you give me your home address please W6355 Judy Drive say it again W6355 Judy Drive Judy Drive right and you will have five minutes sir well I'm hoping that I'm the bearer of good news for you tonight I was asked to come and give you a little update on what's going on at Maywood some of you might not know me I'm David Cooke I'm the environmental park director for the city of Sheboygan which means that I'm stationed out at Maywood and we've got a lot of things going on there right now one of which is a major construction project we're adding 5600 square feet to our current ecology center and I'm really proud of the fact that this is such a community issue at a community event we have our friends group the LWH May Environmental Park Association that has raised the $1.254 million to pay for that facility and in addition to that they've also raised a $250,000 endowment that money will be the interest from that money will be used to offset the cost of utilities and basic maintenance of the building so I'm really happy about that we also have volunteers coming out every Saturday morning to work with me to offset the cost of this building too by helping me with some of the demolition and some of the cleanup to save expenses to the contractors so that's been a great thing one of the things about this project that has concerned me from the very beginning seeing that the building is sitting right on the edge of a bluff overlooking the Pigeon River is the storm water that we're going to have the management of that storm water from all the buildings or roof surfaces and so to help with that we've had Joe Majuris from Landmark Landscapes help to design and he's volunteered his time to put together a master landscape plan for the building one of the things that he's incorporating in there is to handle all that storm water that's coming off the roof surfaces by having it go into a rain garden so this will be a great feature not only for Maywood but also as an example to the city and to residents as to what they can do too with their storm water so they're not dumping all of the storm water down into the storm sewers so that we have to process it at Dale's facility down at the wastewater treatment plant we also have a lot of cooperative ventures that are going on right now at Maywood too we're trying to work hand in hand with a lot of other agencies and as an example this coming Saturday which is Earth Day if I have to remind you about that April 22nd we're going to be working with the Sheboygan River Basin Partnership in order to do a litter cleanup of three sites along the Sheboygan River and also along the Pigeon River at Maywood and so we're inviting volunteers to come out at 9 o'clock on Saturday morning to help us with this first annual litter pickup along the Sheboygan River we're also working with this very same group the Sheboygan River Basin Partnership to put on Sheboygan River forums throughout this upcoming year we've put on two already and these forums are all related to the Sheboygan River remediation that's going to be taking place this coming summer that should be a fascinating project as they dredge the Sheboygan River from Sheboygan Falls to Kohler to help get rid of the PCB contamination in the sediment we're also working with Thrive Financial for Lutherans and they're helping us this coming May 6th on a day that they call Join Hands Day and what that day is it's a day when we invite volunteers to come out and help with some sort of community service project this year the community service project happens to be at Maywood and we'll be planting an additional 400 trees that's in addition to the over 10,000 that we've planted since I've been there 17 years so we have 400 more trees that are going in and volunteers are invited to come out beginning at 9 o'clock in the morning and staying all day Thrive Financial is both paying for the trees as well as lunch for anybody that helps us plant them we're also working with UW Extension the DNR Woodland Dunes Nature Center in Manitowoc and Brilliant Nature Center in Brilliant to put on 15 forest education programs between September of this year and December of next year forest education programs are designed primarily for those landowners in Sheboygan County and Manitowoc County that own 10 acres of wooded land or more so in Sheboygan County that's about 2,000 residents that would fit into that category so these 15 programs are to help them manage their 15 acres or their 10 acres or more of land because Wisconsin's forests really are primarily owned by private individuals and lastly in the cooperative program section of my presentation I wanted to tell you about sustainable development we're also working with some other agencies such as Miller Engineers and they just recently put on a great program down at Blue Harbor on sustainable development which is living green basically and we're doing more programs in that realm throughout the next year I have some brochures that I'm going to pass out to the council members and first one since some of you might not be that familiar with Maywood is an experienced Maywood brochure Dave your five is up do you need the extra minute about another 30 seconds the second one is our summer camp day camp brochure we have summer day camps going on all summer long for kids ages seven up through early teens and those are one week day camp sessions that are really very exciting our naturalist Rebecca Westfall is doing a great job in putting together some exciting things and the other brochure that I have is this one called the Guide to Nature Centers of North Eastern Wisconsin which lists all of the nature centers in the northern eastern part of the state which is Maywood is one of those great nature centers that we have we also have a bicycling trail that apparently is going in in Sheboygan County a 25 million dollar project and we are part of that in a way that we're putting on bicycling events throughout the year we've got a five month bicycle training program that's taken off last year and is going to be going on this year along with the Maywood 100 which is a park to park tour and of course our biggest fundraiser which is the Maywood earth ride in September which brings in people from all over the United States including states such as California, Arizona, Florida all of the Midwestern states and 90 communities in Wisconsin thank you very much next on the list is Carl Table Carl can I have your home address please 2402 North 25th and you will have five minutes sir thank you Mayor Perez Clerk Richards, Attorney McLean members of the council audience here live in City Hall and our many friends on Channel 8 tonight I come to ask all of you the elected representatives of our city to please keep the position of City Clerk elected as an American citizen I like elections, I follow elections and I have participated in elections for six years I had the honor to serve the people of Sheboygan with several of you people and I'd like to particularly point out Don Van Akron Don a special thank you you were a gentleman legislator the community has high respect for you and the civility that you brought to this council during my three terms as Alderman I was concerned about when there was a vacancy on the City Council that we had the authority to appoint I always felt that should be an elected position or elected to the council and so I'm very happy to report this evening the thanks to Representative Van Akron and Senator Leipen and Governor Doyle that as of the other day Wisconsin has a new act 248 that now if there is a vacancy on the City Council you will be able to have an election and that will give the people to go to go into the neighborhoods and solicit the votes from those filled citizens regarding this issue now about the city clerk America is built on people voting whether it be in our townships or villages our cities, our counties and our states let's not lose this the gentleman who asks for the armory on Friday afternoon he and many others are going to Iraq why are they going there because as a nation we have said we want the Iraq people to have elections not appointments, not dictatorships but elections recently our city went through our 06 elections many of you were involved and I want to thank those of you who were involved for your involvement as a candidate to those of you who are continuing to serve and those of you who have served I wish you only the best I ask you this evening please keep the position a city clerk elected don't take my vote away the county clerk is elected the clerk on the state level which would be the secretary of state is elected and just to give a few examples how important one vote is I'd like to just quote from the history of one vote by one vote in 1776 gave America the English language instead of German by one vote in the electoral college Tom Jefferson won the presidency over Aaron Burr by one vote Texas was brought into the union by one vote President Johnson was saved from impeachment and we could go on in the history of our wonderful country our wonderful state and our wonderful city I ask you please keep the position elected Dimple Adams a fellow citizen wanted to speak this evening was not able to she concurred with me to please keep it an elected position and as I gave tribute to Don as one of my former colleagues I'd like to also thank the gentleman who succeeded me and also served so faithfully these last years and that is to Bill Steffen thank you and thank you for giving me the chance to speak thank you sir last on the list is Jean McGovern and which one of you is Jean okay and I need your address Jean 1004 Bell Avenue and you will have five minutes we are members of the Chewbacca County 4-H program our club is the Chewbacca Busy Beavers I'm Amanda McGovern and this is my mom, Jean McGovern we are excited to be here this evening and to be partnering with the city of Chewbacca Triple A and Wolf Cycle and bringing a community of bike rodeo to Evergreen Park on Saturday April 29th from 1030 to 130 the bike rodeo will include bike safety checks licenses, licensing helmet fitting, rules of the road a bicycle safety course and other activities for the whole family my mom and I are both on the planning committee for this event and are looking forward to a great day the community bike rodeo is just one way that Chewbacca County 4-H programs contribute to the city of Chewbacca our club has adopted a street has done multiple non-perishable food drives each year we have adopted a local nursing home and volunteer yearly for the march of dimes and have volunteered our services to animal shelters and rescue leagues all over the city all this while providing our community youth with the opportunity to explore their own backyards as well as the world at large through projects at home, national field trips and international exchange programs we are giving back to the community and are thankful for this opportunity with the first annual community bike rodeo we would like to take this opportunity to thank the city of Chewbacca for its willingness to partner with the Chewbacca County 4-H and allow us the use of Evergreen park and the services of a city police officer for the day we thank you for supporting our efforts and look forward to a great day of learning and fun for the whole community you are all invited to join us for a local food item again to help support our local food pantries we will also be raffling off a mountain bike and a couple of gift certificates from Wolf Cycle all the proceeds to be donated again to the area food pantries thank you again for your support and your generosity it's generosity like this that makes the city of Chewbacca a truly great place to live for youth and their families thank you I'd like to thank all the five citizens who addressed the council tonight we appreciate your thoughts and concerns and we encourage them further the next item on the agenda we have a series of four public hearings and I'll read all of them out and if there's any citizen that would like to address the council with respect to anyone hearing please make that notation as one, two, three or four and we will recognize you first hearing will be for the vacation and discontinuance of the unpaved alley between Georgia Avenue and Clara Avenue and east of south 7th Street second hearing will be for the proposed assessments for water lateral replacements in Illinois Avenue from south 13th Street to south 14th Street the third hearing will be for the proposed assessments for water lateral replacements in south 13th Street from Maryland Avenue to Illinois Avenue the fourth hearing for the proposed assessments for water lateral replacements in north 8th Street from Ontario Avenue to Michigan Avenue is there anyone in the audience that would like to address the council is there anyone in the audience who would like to address the council with respect to these four hearings is there anyone in the audience that would like to address the council President Grau thank you Your Honor before we get into the consent agenda I would like to pull forward document 2441 from Other Matters and with that I would move that the R.O.B. would move that all four hearings be closed motion second to close hearings any discussion being on all those in favor state aye motion carries hearings are closed President Grau I would move that the R.O.B. be accepted and filed and the general ordinance be passed motion second under discussion under discussion Your Honor the document refers to several of the hearings that we just had because there are several people from out of the city that are involved in this we would like to give them the good news to send them on their way back to their Vienna please call the roll Bauman D.Berg E.Berg Serta Davis Graf Kittleson Meyer Montemayor Radke Sagali Steffen Susha Venakren Van Der Wiel motion carries consent agenda thank you Your Honor I would move that for the items 26-1 through 26-20 that all the R.O.B. be accepted and filed that all the R.C.s be accepted and adopted and we pass the resolutions motion second under discussion Allerman Susha thank you Your Honor I would like to ask that 26-2 be referred to the new public protection and safety committee new public protection yes will be referred thank you Allerman Susha Allerman Bauman Sir I thank you Your Honor discussion purposes only I would like to just speak on item 26-18 26-18 for discussion please proceed 26-18 is referring to the 2006 concrete sidewalk construction project the bids this year came in so the money that was budgeted actually was higher than what we were given or than what the bids came in at so we're actually going to be able to do more of the sidewalks than we anticipated in doing that's a good thing yes it is Allerman Bauman thank you very much for pointing that out any further discussion there being none Madam City Clerk please call the roll D.Burg E.Burg Serta Davis Graff Allerman Mayer Montemayor Rackie Sagali Steffen Susha Van Akron Vanderweel and Bauman 15 ayes motion carries communications 26-21 to 26-22 to be referred report of officers 26-23 by the city attorney submitting a summary of the city's liability claims in the ten year period 1996-2005 President Graff thank you and I would move that the I.O. will be accepted and placed on file there's a motion to accept and file second under discussion there being none all those in favor state aye any opposed motion carries 26-24 to 26-31 to be referred resolutions introduced three 26-32 by Allerman Susha authorizing the Plymouth National Guard B. Battery to use the Italian battery to use the Sheboygan Armory with a cost on April 21st, 2006 to have a send off ceremony for 180 soldiers who will be leaving for service in Iraq Allerman Susha can I make a motion to suspend the rules second is there any objection first please proceed thank you I'd like to move that the resolution be put upon its passage there's a motion to second resolution 26-32 upon its passage under discussion there being none please call the roll Eberg, Serda, Davis Graff, Kittleson Meyer, Montemayor Ratke, Sagali Stefan Susha Van Akron Bauman and D. Berg motion carries 26-33 by Allerman Susha temporarily allowing parking on south 11th street west side only from Maryland Avenue to Illinois Avenue from May 29th, 06 to October 06 to accommodate vehicles displaced by construction Allerman Susha thank you Your Honor I would move to suspend the rules any objection for suspension none please proceed motion second to put resolution upon its passage under discussion there being none please call the roll Serda, Davis Graff, Kittleson Meyer, Montemayor Ratke, Sagali Stefan Susha Van Akron Bauman D. Berg and E. Berg motion carries 26-34 by Allerman Van Akron and Susha confirming assessments for the proposed water lateral replacements north 8th street from Ontario Avenue to Michigan Allerman Susha would you like to take 26-34, 35 and 36 please do I would move that these three resolutions motion to second to put all three resolutions upon their passage under discussion there being none all those in favor state aye any opposed motion carries 26-37 by Allerman Berg Graff and Van Akron ratifying resolution number 312506 accepting the agreement with local 5011 union of professional employees resolution number 313506 accepting the agreement with professional police officers supervisory association Vice President Berg yes thank you your honor with that I'd also like to take 2587 both of these documents in relation to settlements okay is there a motion and I move that the resolution be put upon the passage there's a motion to second to put both resolutions 26-37 and 2587 upon their passage Allerman Berg one is a resin one is an orb is that what you wanted I stand corrected any discussion there being none please call the roll I'll give you one second Davis Graff Kittleson Meyer Montemayor Radke Segali Stefan Sushia Van Akron Vanderweel Bauman D. Berg E. Berg and Serda 12 ayes 3 noes motion carries 26-38 to be referred 26-39 by Alderman Graff amending the Vantage Care Retirement Health Savings Program to include all permanent part-time and full-time city employees Vice President Berg yes thank you your honor I'll put it on the passage yes for suspension is there any objection please proceed then yes move that the resolution be put upon the passage were you taking just 39 or 40 with it if possible I would like to ask for suspension on 40 and 41 then is there any objection to 40 and 41 you said correct you want to put them all together correct all three any objection to suspension on 26-39 40 and 41 there being none your motion is to put them all upon the passage correct and there was a second under discussion Alderman Susha thank you your honor being that these were scheduled on the agenda to be referred I was just wondering if you could give us a quick synopsis of what this is all about please Vice President Berg yes thank you your honor this will conclude the 2005 and 2006 salary negotiations in other words we have re-connected agreements with the union council approval and I think it is perhaps most efficient if we conclude this council year and then the new salary and grievance commission when they're impaneled can begin the negotiations for 2007 so given that we previously acted upon all the other salary matters this is just to some degree a housekeeping matter if you would the agreements are all very similar we're settling at two and a half percent thank you Alderman Berg Alderman Susha second time thank you your honor I'm just reading through these kind of quickly and I believe number 40 and 41 are relevant to the actual collective bargaining agreement whereas number 39 seems to be a little bit different it's related to participation into a retirement plan a health savings program so I'm wondering if we could have a separate vote on 39 thank you are you making a motion to ask for a separate vote I would make a motion for a separate vote second all those in favor state aye aye any opposed we will proceed with 40 and 41 then motion has been made in second has been discussed is there any further discussion on 40 and 41 there being none please call the roll Graf Kittleson Meyer Montemayor Radke Segali Susha Vanakren Bauman Eberg and Davis 12 ayes 3 noes motion carries on 2639 then we go back your motion still stands Vice President Berg second any discussion on 2639 there being none please call the roll Kittleson Meyer Montemayor Radke Segali Susha Vanakren Bauman Eberg Serta Davis Graf motion carries on 2639 there being none please call the roll Mayor Susha and Davis authorizing the transfer of appropriations in the 06 budget President Graf thank you and I ask for suspension is there any objection suspension there is none please proceed then I would move that the 2642 be put upon its passage motion is second 2642 upon its passage under discussion there being none please call the roll Meyer Montemayor Susha Vanakren Bauman Eberg Serta Davis Graf and Kittleson 15 ayes motion carries 7 2643 2645 to be referred ordinance introduced 10 2646 to be referred matters laid over 2441 has been pulled forward 2577 an RO number 6620506 by the city clerk submitting a communication from St. Nicholas hospital requesting permission to sponsor the annual St. Nicholas hospital freedom run in the north 2006 President Graf thank you and I would move that the RO be accepted and filed motion second to file under discussion it was from previously I'm sorry likely playing here under discussion attorney McLean just for clarification are you by accepting and filing this communication are you also I would suggest accept and adopt excuse me attorney McLean there is a resolution following up a few minutes that will be addressing that an actual resolution granting permission so then this one should just be filed and then the other one comes forward are we okay with that just to explain 2577 will be filed there's a correspondent resolution coming forward to approve All those in favor state aye any opposed motion carries 2579 and our own our own number 660506 by the city clerk submitting a communication from Asher Hymerman Hymerman of resources of shabuake and club thanking all of them Berg all a person Berg for his hard work on council and Thanking the city clerk and the mayor for providing information about the city for his club President Ross Thank You honor. I would move that that are all be accepted and placed on file also There's a motion and a second to accept and file under discussion There being none all those in favor state aye any opposed motion carries 2585 our own number 660506 by the municipal board of canvassers stating that they have determined the following persons were duly elected to the office of specified President grow Thank You your honor I would move that arrow that arrow also be accepted and filed Motion to accept and file and second under discussion There being none all those in favor state aye any opposed motion carries 2545 resolution number 314506 by all of them and Stefan Montemayor Susha and Davis authorizing the transfer of appropriations in the 06 budget Alderman Stefan Thank You your honor Thank You your honor could I take the next two also please do I move that all three resolutions to put upon the passage There's a motion to second to put 2545's 46 and 47 upon their passage under discussion There being all of them in Susha Thank You your honor I just wanted to make some comments in regards to 25-47 and what this document is about is it's Implementing a wireless Network, I believe it's a wireless net mesh network It was it was introduced to us in the finance committee And what happened is that there was an opportunity with building a new Firehouse that they were going to go with this wireless mesh system and the company that developed it gave a proposal to the city that we could implement a pilot study and Connect some of our other buildings through this wireless system and even though I'm going to vote in favor of this I think it's worthy of checking into this wireless mesh I just wanted to kind of bring everybody up to speed in regards to planning for next year's budget because when you look at where did The extra $15,000 come from to pay for this you find that the wastewater plant has an extra $5,000 under professional service Professional services the wastewater fund sanitary sewer maintenance has an extra $2,500 in contractual services The stormwater fund has an extra $2,500 in professional services The police department has an extra thousand dollars in the PC repayment fund and the information system fund has an extra $3,645 under contractual services I Question all of those because to me when you are approving the budget and you approve items such as professional and or contractual services, I guess I think of Services like Outside legal counsel or if one of our buildings develops a problem with mice that we would you know contract with an exterminator And I don't think that this is necessarily what this money should be spent on Because this was something that we didn't know was coming and I guess in the future. We have a contingency fund I would think that these items should come out under the contingency fund And I guess I would like to give a heads up to each of the department heads that when it comes time to Budgeting they should be prepared because I will be asking for an itemization of everything that is in their professional service And also under their contractual services, and I hope that they're prepared to tell us what exactly each of those dollars is going to be Used for thank you Thank you all my sushia any more discussion There being none madam city clerk, please call the roll Montemay or rat key so golly Stefan Excuse me Susha Van Akron van der Weel Bowman D. Berg Eberg Excuse me Surtah Davis graph Kittleson and Meyer 15 eyes motion carries 2578 resolution number 3 1 7 0 5 0 6 by all of them in van Akron and Susha granting St. Nicholas hospital permission to hold a freedom run and walk on the streets of and sidewalks of the city of Sheboygan all of them Susha Thank You your honor. I move that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion the second put the resolution upon its passage under discussion There being none all those in favor state. I any opposed motion carries 2584 an RC number 5 12 0 5 0 6 by the marina and harbour committee filing various documents vice president bird Yes, thank you, and I move that the reporter committee be accepted filed Motion the second under discussion There being none all those in favor state. I any opposed motion carries 2569 charter ordinance number 1 0 5 0 6 by all of them Berg Surtah and Van Akron providing for the appointment of the city clerk in lieu of the current method of election by the voters to such office All vice president bird. Thank you again, Mr. Mayor. I would also like to take 2570 and 2587 with the condition that if the charter ordinance fails to pass that 2570 and 2587 then be filed. Oh Very very well Although we've already acted on 2587. We've already acted on 2587 correction 2570 to right 2572 just two documents. Just two documents 2569. Okay double circles. I'm sorry Okay, under discussion. We'll let a Seconded that I didn't second it. We had a second Okay, we were before I get to you Alderman Berg Mr. City Attorney, thank you your honor All my bird. Are you suggesting taking a vote on those separately or together? And the reason I asked together with the condition that you have 2969 the charter ordinance is defeated then be back with a general ordinance is accepted and filed Because Right, I guess I would suggest do them separately the charter ordinance requires the two-thirds vote and the other requires a majority vote So I think you should probably do the charter ordinance first Why don't we do that? Let's keep it clean. Okay, Alderman Berg. Let's go back. You're bringing your motion, please to 2569 And there's Second, okay, we've got a motion on 2569 relating to the city ordinance possibly Possibly changing the city clerk's position from an elected to an appointed and we had Alderman and Berg to go first No, no, Denver. He was he was up. I'll get you a minute. Okay When we first had this in salaries and grievance, I thought it was a good idea until Till I started getting phone calls and everything from people about asking why Why the common council always wants to take away their right to vote? Which is actually true because so many other city positions we have used to be voted on by the Citizens but the council's kept on taking them away taking them away So I had a lot of calls this week believe it or not and they're saying please leave the city clerk as an elected position don't take these Voters Choice away. Don't don't put this power in the hands of one or two people. Let's keep it. Let's keep the clerk's position voted on by the city Citizens that they can elect who they like so please vote no on this, please Thank you all one bird Next we have Oliver Ratke. Oh, excuse me. Oh my Ratke Vice president Berg when he's big you didn't have your light on that's why I'm okay. Thank you. Thank you again. You're over with you, sir Thank you. This did come out of discussion and salary Agreements is we when we're doing comparables we looked at a number at the data set had about 20 clerks in them of the clerks Positions only about four or five were elected we had previously brought through council a way to look at every open position the Discussion really focused around Should this continue to be elected or should it be an appointed position? I guess for me personally the outcome is the discussion that the discussion is more important Even than the decision we talked earlier about how the right to vote was sacred And I think in that regard. This is one of those Heart versus hand discussions everybody in their heart values the right to vote It seems to be sacred in our community and I would say that the right to vote Is this is sacred but even more sacred than that is our right to debate that right and it is with that I think we bring this forward Primarily for discussion a couple of factors I think that present and I think I will speak not to the heart side because if you believe voting is important I don't think there's a reasonable argument that will sway anybody's mind However, there are some factors that I think impact on this particular position first off one of the issues relates to the very highly technical and Specialized role that has evolved in many of our government positions in the 1800s The clerk was typically the administrator of the township right now the competency required in this area means a unique degree of knowledge in matters of record retention election law Licensing virtually all of the bitty business of the city runs to the clerk's office In terms of elected positions often with elected positions Comes the ability to set broad-ranging policy Much if not all of the duties of the clerk are constricted and prescribed either Very narrowly by the statutes or by the ordinances Because of that purpose. This is such a knowledge-intensive position There are not corollary positions that you can look at for comparables in the in the private sector If appointed the clerk's positions are often filled from within and within that regard Sometimes the most confident individual is not an individual who feels like going door-to-door for the election process the best candidate May be a good campaigner, but not necessarily a good clerk and vice versa Appointments will follow a competitive application process with a the civil service commission Determining the qualifications one of the standards that there in that that exists is certified municipal clerk That is someone who has met the educational requirements For that job and has achieved if you would that level of competence as awarded by their peers I Will also I guess speak to the the current clerk and how could we not but think of the the city clerk's position without Thinking of Sue Richards and I think many of the cause I've had would be a concern that she in some ways this would Cause clerk Richards to lose her job on the contrary By this ordinance she would be the first individual appointment And I would also given that because we often look at individuals versus positions I'm going to venture into very dangerous and uncharted water as a matter of fact It probably is even going to be bordering on being politically incorrect, but our staff is aging clerk Richards is aging There comes to be a time when we were no longer at some point in time have the services of our current staff and For whatever reason there is not a legitimate internal successor I can see a good deal of difficulty in terms of Supporting if you would the activities of that very vital and important office So for me appointment does offer a sense of assurance that the most technically competent Individual is chosen to serve not just the best campaigner. Thank you Thank you Parked my wheelchair next time I come in Allerman Ratney your next sir Thank you your honor earlier this evening We had a gentleman here speaking in the public forum about the people that are going to Iraq to defend the people and give them The right to vote and defend their brothers and sisters. They're fighting in Iraq People are dying for the right to vote and we want to take that away from the people of this community The people this community to be technically correct are not incompetent to make the right choices at the voting polls For example the county corner, you don't have to be a doctor. You can be a layman just like you and I and you can go out and declare people dead Registered each sheriff County clerk the list goes on you don't have to have the qualifications and the voters are not done by any means The voters can make up their mind as to the right person for the right job if we take this away from these people Then why don't we all just take the positions of elected all the persons in the mirror when we'll go down to Ed Serks office every two years and apply for the job because that's the direction We're heading here to take away the right to vote is taking away the voice of the people I ran an open responsive government. This is an open responsive government We start taking the right of the people to vote away People know how to make the right choice if they don't in a couple years. They'll fix that choice But for right now, I don't doubt the voters because as far as I know They still run the city through us and to take away their right is the wrong thing to do Alderman Bowman Thank you, your honor. I too am going to More or less speak on election versus appointment I'm going to mirror the comments, of course of Dan Berg and Alderman Radke so I won't Go ahead and state what they did already But I had calls actually from Thursday on The only day in my phone didn't ring was yesterday today again. It started all concerning voting They would prefer to have the vote There for themselves to use and not to have an appointment made for this position Pull workers called me other people called me everyone called me and there was not one call in favor of having this in favor of appointment So they said by doing this were denying their right to vote and they would really like to see us vote in Favor of keeping it as elected. Thank you. Thank you. Alderman Bowman Alderman Serta Thank you, your honor I would just like to state for the record that Madam City clerk Susan Richard had no influence in generating this ordinance And I would like to thank her for her patience and allowing us to explore this topic and it speaks of her integrity. Thank you Alderman Kittleson Thank you, your honor. I too. I just needed to concur with Alderman Bowman I received many many calls on this Subject and I was really happy that the the people called because I like to hear from them and they too Everyone loves Sue Richards. That's not the not that is not in question at all but they do wish to have the City clerk's position remain an elected position and that's what I have heard from all the people Thank you. Thank you, your honor I think having our city clerk elected is fine. I would like to Perhaps refer this to the next committee of the whole so we can explore maybe Basic criteria for the city clerk's position and still keep it elected There's a motion. Yes, and a second under discussion before Just wanted to make a comment This is this is the most peculiar thing to keep popping up when I was an alderman this thing came up again, and I remember Representative in Akron then Alderman of an Akron and I was an alderman We stood up and probably fought this thing pretty hard and it didn't pass then for the exact same reasons that you were stating today And the exact same reasons and concerns that the citizens of Sheboygan have For some unknown reason this thing keep popping up every three or four years it just pops up What strikes me as unique and powerful is that the citizens at different times throughout time Continue to make the same point. Don't take a right to select that person away Simple as that they keep saying it over and over and over again Alderman Susha under discussion Thank you, your honor Today somebody asked me the question about if I thought this issue should go to referendum and I had not thought about that And I would like more time to think about that and I think that if we have a meeting of the committee the whole where we can Look at all aspects. I think this needs a lot more discussion before a decision is made one way or the other I know that many of the phone calls that I received the concern was more about the phrase Appointment and the concern I had from one individual is they were afraid that the mayor was going to appoint his sister Or someone like that and that's not how the system works And I think that if we go to the committee the whole with this All of the alderman can have more information so we can make an informed Intelligence decision on what to do. Should we have a referendum? Should we go ahead and just vote on this or should we just drop it and leave it the way it is? So I would support going to committee the whole with this issue. Thank you I certainly hope you don't start a rumor by saying that I Have no sisters in Sheboyna Nor in, Wisconsin Alderman vice president Burt Thank you, and I'm not going to vote against the committee of the whole because I think this is a relatively simple issue We can dispose of this evening Clearly the issue is one of discussion only I think the situation we have currently works But when we stop evaluating governance and how we govern I think we do ourselves at a service So this was done much more so for a discussion purpose to I to look at alternatives because I think a part of our job Is to look at those alternatives Some of the issues that present the requirements for city clerk by statute I believe are relatively simple. We do not have the ability to craft the job description That I believe that the requirements are is that you are 18 years of age You are not a felon and you are a registered voter or will be or you will move to the area that you are running in Those are the basic requirements as I understand them for for political office So I don't think there would be much to debate on that topic And I would just ask that we dispose of this tonight so we can move on with new business with the new year Alderman Serta. Thank you, Your Honor. I concur with Alderperson Berg To wrap things up this evening. I think this will correct me if I'm wrong, but you could also bring in another Ordinance with the next council and that way it's going to allow it to go through due process It's going to give the new council the advantage of having it go to possibly celery and grievance be referred to the committee of the whole And just to assess their citizen base to see if that's warranted Alderman Vanderweel Thank you, Your Honor like many of the alderman here tonight I've received many phone calls asking to keep this position elected and I agree with Alderman Serta that That this can come in a different form Further investigated so that we can look at our committee or come here the whole that we can take care of this document tonight and look at it in a new council Thank you, Alderman Vanderweel And I think it's important before we take we're going to think we're going to we're Before we take the vote It's important to Remind everyone again particularly the public who's being very very mindful of this issue is Madam C clerk Sue Richards have nothing to do with instigating and Alderman Serta. Thank you for pointing that out It's not her doing. She's not to blame for trying to pull the wool or anybody's eyes She had nothing to do with that. It was something that came under discussion keeps popping back up And that's just the way it is and I don't agree. You're not getting older. I am Okay, we will call the roll if this do you want the roll call or just a voice vote Roll call Please call. Oh, we've got first emotion is to refer to the whole of the new council. Yes, and I vote would be to refer Radke Segali Stefan Susha then Akron Vanderweel Bauman D-Berg No Eberg Serta Davis graph Kittleson Meyer Montemay or Two eyes and 13 nose ocean fills No, we will take the allerman Susha Thank you, your honor being that we're going to vote on the document as it is. I would like to make a few amendments Just in case it would pass I Would make a motion to amend it everywhere. It says job grade 12. I'd like to change that to job grade 11 But worry could you point out where the position description? Yes, that isn't part of the ordinance. I believe that's the companion. That's in 2570 That's the next one. We're taking a different document. I'll take it in the next one. Thank you Okay, we have 2569 and I believe we had a motion in the second Correct and under discussion on that issue all of us are to No pass all of them and Ratke Thank you, your honor. Is this going to ask what the majority of voters is simple majority Is this two-thirds three-quarters to change the chart ordinance two-thirds? Thank you, ma'am city clerk. Please call the roll I'm sorry Almost a golly. Thank you, Mr. Weir if we could just please have clarification on what you're voting on You're voting on the final to pass the charter ordinance to make this an appointed position And I vote would be to pass the charter Segali Stefan Sushia No, Van Akron Vanderveel Bauman D. Berg Excuse me Eberg Serta Davis graph Kittleson Meyer Montemayor and Ratke One eye 14 nose Ocean fails 2570 General ordinance number 105 104 506 by element Berg Serta and Van Akron amend the code So as to add and delete a position from the city clerk's table of organization Vice president Burke. Thank you, and I will move to file that Motion in second to file Under discussion there being none. Please call the roll Segali, I'm sorry Stefan Susha Van Akron Vanderveel Bauman D. Berg Eberg Serta Davis graph Kittleson Meyer Montemayor Ratke and Segali 15 eyes motion carries 25 87 has been dealt with other Matters authorized by law 2647 Will be referred to public works of the new council 2648 an arrow by the shabuigan transit commission recommended enter into a contract for the shabuigan transit tire services President growl Thank You your honor. I would move that the arrow be accepted in place on file and that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion and also if I may for a 2649 That that arrow be accepted and placed on file Okay, there's a motion a second and for 2650 if I may also take that our old you're in a row Has that arrow be accepted and placed on file and that general ordinance be put upon its passage There's motion second. We're taking 2648 49 and 50 On your discussion All in Stefan Thank You your honor. I would request a separate vote on 2650, please Okay I'll them and grab what you like to withdraw that motion the party motion 2650 So we can take separate Vice President Burke. Is it okay with you too? Okay, so the motion stands 2650 has been withdrawn all in Stefan the motion as it is now is 2648 to accept and file and pass the attached resolution and 2649 to accept and file Under discussion on that all those in favor say aye Any opposed? We need a roll call. Yes, take that back. Madam city clerk. Please call the roll Susha Then Akron Vander wheel Bowman D. Burke Eberg Serta Davis graph Kittleson Meyer Montemayor Radke Segali and Stefan 15 ayes motion carries 2650 an arrow by the shabuigan transit Commission Recommendant amending section 2-558 of the shabuigan municipal code relating to the composition of the transit Commission So as to authorize the mayor and department heads members to designate another member of that department to attend a meeting or Meetings in their absence President graph Thinking I would move that the RO be accepted and placed on file and that the general ordinance be put upon its passage Motion in a second under discussion all of them Stefan Thank You your honor Just a little background for people the Makeup of the transit Commission is some citizen appointees As we can see that the chief of police Department of Development the mayor and then some older persons who are there by virtue of the fact they're a chair of a standing committee It has always been the process that the chair of the standing committee if you can't make the meeting Can designate the vice chair or somebody else from that committee to vote with his proxy? I came a couple months ago, and I guess I voted because all the person graph couldn't be there and That kind of brought up this issue of how come he can vote if he's not on the committee And I have really no issue with allowing the chief of police and the director of city development to allow Somebody in the department if they can't make the meeting to carry their vote My problem is the mayor I feel that if he can't be there We should have another older person there because he doesn't represent a department he represents in my mind an elected position And I just like to offer a Amendment that would allow him to appoint an older person to take a spot rather than someone from his department So my amendment would be to under D. Just delete the first two words the mayor Now at the end when it says full power to act and his or her stead add the mayor She'll be allowed to appoint an older person With it with similar rights Okay, there's motion in the second two men Under discussion on that part, and I have absolutely no problem with it Okay old and favorite state I Any opposed motion carries now we're back to the motion Motion to passes up to accept and file pass the ordinance as amended Thank you, president and a second Any discussion on that? Madam city clerk. Let's call the roll van Akron Vanderwheel Bowman D. Berg E. Berg Serda Davis Graf Kittleson Meyer Montemayor Ratky Segali Stefan and Sushia 15 eyes Motion carries I just take my turn Attorney McLean other matters Thank you, your honor 2651 is a communication from Dwayne disjardins stating various concerns with the handling of its unemployment claim against the city and submitting the Decisions from the unemployment tribunal and the administrative law judge And that would be referred to risk management of the new council 2652 is a communication from Tom Clark 612 South 22nd Street regarding the concerns of the problem of noise created At the city municipal yard that sometimes start at 615 a.m And that will be referred to public works of the new council Alderman Bowman Thank you, your honor May I address the for retiring people, please please do so and thank you my comments to be extremely short this evening Generally last night of council. I used to come up with some real comical remarks, etc. I'm gonna be serious tonight something different the first Comments of course of B2 Dan Berg Alderman Berg You've often been outspoken on council For that times and I tell you you really stood up for your constituency We're gonna miss your call for comments. Those are great and Very much good luck in the future. Like I said, they're going to be short Marge Alderman Marge Sakali You too were not afraid to speak up in any subjects Even though you were defeated in the election You did serve your people well You were a very good representative of your area and we also miss you Alderman Bill Bill Steffen Actually only got to know you Mostly through the union which I'm a member of You were a financial secretary You did a good job there Council member a wonderful job You have a great financial background which also helped you uncounsel when you were members of finance committee, etc, etc And of course, you've always had to sit in this best interest in your heart and thank you for serving on council Lastly for Don Van Akron Alderman Don You know, it's really going to be different up here Not having a Van Akron being called on I Mean how many years have I been up here? It's been a few There was either a Terry or a Don or a Terry and a Don Van Akron So there was always someone answering to that Van Akron name Your years up here will always be remembered You've had to work with several mayors how many three Well, I tell you each mayor. I think was impressed with your knowledge and your actions. Yes, you took time to learn as we all did But man, you were really a wonderful person to work with I'll tell you what Also, good luck in your retirement and we will definitely miss you up here. That's all. Thank you Alderman Sarda Thank you, Your Honor. I just have a few words to say as well To Donnie I would just like to say it's been said that you've been a man of very few words But you've led with your heart and I've witnessed that and I thank you Bill Steffen I must say it's been it's been Something to work with you. I've appreciated your common sense your insight your discussion It's helped me tremendously in making my decisions and I thank you for that Dan I've watched you take a stand and it takes a lot of courage and I must say there's something There's there's an advantage to having your age and your wisdom and I've gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from seeing that And lastly to March. It's been a privilege working beside you You've been passionate and I know we've spoken many times and I know if you served your district very well and It's not only been a privilege to work with you, but I've also gained a friend. Thank you Thank you all miss her to woman to galley. I Guess that's my turn I need to thank the people of my district For allowing me to serve them for the past two years now if I could make some comment to the department heads I sure would like to please please do I Guess I'd like to thank Tom and I'd like to thank mr. Hope. I'd like to thank Chief was house key. I would like to thank all the department heads that I work with and Last but not least Chief of police Dave Kirk. I Believed in your department yesterday I believe in your department today, and I'll believe in your department from this day forward You have good men and women. I want to thank the your spouses for without them You didn't go home. You could go home and know that the people that you went home to loved you and supported you You have been a fine police chief as well as we have a fine Fire chief and Tom Holton. You've been terrific. You still need your man You need your man chief J. You're doing pretty good in that field But you probably could use more I just want to thank the people that have come to the council meetings too and I've heard all of our What we had to say and and have acknowledged us and treated us with respect I think that I think that's really all very important Igor I love hearing you on the radio and his Best half over there with him. This has just been a terrific thing Dan. I Really I don't know what to say and of course the city of Sheboygan has to be very grateful There is no Thelma and Louise anymore Because that's a body and I've ever known that I I guess I just Want to say thank you to everyone. I want to say thank you to you Sue And I'm glad it's still going to be elected because you were the person the elder people could go for With all the guidance and the leadership that you had and I am internally grateful for all the help that you have given us Steve I've talked to you before but I truly mean it. I will miss everybody here You just have been good people and good advisors, and I thank you for all of that. Thank you Thank you. Once again Gruff thank you. Your honor as as president of the 2005-2006 Common Council, I'd just like to thank all the older persons for saving serving up here for Dan Berg for Bill Steffen for March to Valley and for Donnie Van Akron special thanks to them for for serving the years that they put in and we will truly miss them all For those that are Continuing on and we'll be joining with the newly elected older persons tomorrow night I wish them a year of successes a year to move forward a year to make Sheboygan a better place to Live work and play and I'm sure if we work together and cooperate and listen to each other We'll be able to do that Make a motion Yes Old woman Akron. Thank you. Your honor. I would like to thank the head of the departments I'd like to thank Sue and her staff for the flowers and my relations for all the Loons Now you know why I can't talk because my son does all the talking But there's only one thing he forgot to tell you that now he asked me why did I vote that way? And I'd like to tie I think all the people in the second restrict for the 10 years or 19 years They gave me and proud to serve them for that many years. Thank you Thank you all women Akron President gruff you're an ad moot a chair and sign and die Second all those in favor state I Stand adjourned