 614 and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Orcas on here but they're not. Okay. We're required. Yep. So we've, we've advertised this meeting in three public places. Right. And on our website and emailed it. Interesting. Interested parties. Okay. Hopefully they're interesting. So we can go ahead and we'll start with the minutes from the last meeting. And. I didn't see any directions that you guys have. I did not either. Yeah. So I'll move to approve. Second. All in favor. All right. Good. June 6th. And we have the other ones. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Especially. Yeah, especially on June 6th. Yeah. I don't see anything there either. No. So. To approve those. Second. All in favor. All right. Okay. So we've got. Do we have. Aaron. Love. Lovely. How do you, how do you say that? It's Aaron. The valley. The valley. All right. And you're going to talking about the solar project down the valley. Yeah. Yeah. With me is Eric. He's my. Our VP of business development. And he's going to be doing the primary presentation tonight. Great. Okay. All right. I'm going to share my screen. If that's okay. I think I, I don't know if you'd have to give me permission or if we're good to go. Yep. You can see it. You can see it. Yep. Great. Great. Thank you. As I'm not sure if you're aware or not, but we have presented to the planning commission last week. For a preferred site letter, because we need a joint letter or at least a letter signed by. Both the planning commission's select board as well as the regional planning commission. And we've presented to two rivers out of Quichy as well. Typically select boards are presented to after we present to them. And so we're going to give you essentially the same presentation we gave them, which is really just a rundown of what the site looks like, what the array will look like. And then answer any of the questions that you might have. As far as where we are in the permit application process, we've done what's called a 45 day notice. What that means is we can't file for a full permit until at least 45 days elapsed between when we sent that notice to all of the interested parties. And we'll be coming up on that date, probably about July one. So we're just trying to get our ducks in a row so we can finalize the application with input from everybody. So this is a slightly revised site plan from what we sent out in the advanced notice. And that's just based on some input of what different parties wanted to see on the plan. These blue rectangles are the arrays, the rows, so there's four of them. It's a 49.95 kilowatt array. LCS controls is just building here. Their parcel outline is here. It's about one and a quarter acres. The array itself, where I guess the fenced in area of the array is about a quarter or two tenths of an acre. One of the questions we got from the planning commission when we initially presented to them just to introduce the project, they said, okay, please just get a wetland delineation or professional opinion prior to formally presenting to us. And so we did that and we can share with you via email, which we did with them from ANR that came and looked and said, yes, there's no, there are no wetland issues here. Another question or concern of folks, including ANR was, where's the flood plain or the floodway, as well as a special flood hazard area. And the flood, the flood way is about 255 feet in that way towards the river. So it's quite far away. The special flood hazard area. Clips just about here. So it's not within the array area, but it just touches on the property line. So we're ANR satisfied with that. That's kind of the general overview. There will be some clearing. There's some, you know, smallish trees and brush in there. And these orange bubbles are the areas that will be clearing existing vegetation. The array will be facing south, which is this direction. So they're not, you know, they're not facing the road. And that's about it from a real high level. Does anybody have any questions or anything? Have you had any reaction from notification of neighboring properties? Nope. So all neighbors get notice of the advanced notice, just like you folks did. And we haven't had anybody contact us. Okay. So what is it being fenced in? It's really for safety reasons. There are two, two ways that you can approach these things. You can either use what's called solar scrim, which is kind of like a screen, I guess, is the best way to think of it on the backside of the panels. And the thought there is, is to keep people's hands away from the wires, just like the offense does. It just sort of keeps people from messing with the system. Going forward, these panels are called what's bifacial. So they actually pick up gain from the backside, more so in the winter than in the summer, because the snow is very reflective of the light. And so if you put a screen on the back, you would pair the efficiency of the production of the panel. So that's why, and then on this particular site, you know, it's not too far from a road. It's not super remote. So just from a discouraging of any sort of vandalism or anything, that's why we elected to have a fence on this one. It's an ag style fence. It's not like a chain link fence. It's a, like a black acrylic eight inch, not wire fence. So it blends in pretty, pretty good. But think of it as an ag style fence. Yep. I was involved with the planning board and all the presentations about this. And I don't seem to address everybody's concerns and interests. I don't see any reason why we wouldn't approve a. Letter preferred site. I can second that. That's your motion. Yeah, that's my motion. Okay. All in favor. All right. All right. Great. Who would you, so we will send you just so you have it in your file. A copy of the ANR notice that there's no wetland just so you can sort of paper. That and we sent the planning commission a form that they could use for the preferred site letter. So they have that, but we'll, we'll email it to you folks as well. Who's email address should we use to send that stuff to. You can email it to the town clerk. Okay. Okay. Do you even, I think you emailed me before. Yes. Yep. That was me. Great. All right. Well, we really appreciate your time. Yeah. Presentation. All right. Thank you all. Bye-bye. Great night. All right. Next on the list. Do we have Erica. Zoom. She's not in the room. Who is it? Erica. Coach. No. No, not in zoom. Okay. There she is. She's a nut. Yeah. I think that. So is it. Her concern was. From her about. Wondering about lowering the speed limit and posting the speed limit on Fisk Oak Lodge and North Hollow road. And posting. Children at play signs and. I'm asking about adding a stop sign at the corner of Fisk and Corey Hill curve. Yeah, we have to go. Yeah, we'd have to go through to be changing the speed limits and ship. And this one I've talked about before to make it clear who the stop sign is for the base of Fisk and bubbles road. Nobody stops because everyone that thinks it's for the other person. Yeah. So we're going to stop signs in the middle of both runs roads, come on an angle. Down below Corey Hill there. No, no. Fisk road. Yeah. Yeah, so that's not. Yeah. Changing the speed limits and such as not. Not something that we're going to. Do right now. Right now. But a lot of that enforcement too. Yeah. You can change the speed limits, but you got to enforce them. And then, you know, we don't have the facilities to do that. We've been working with Rita at this time, but she's on vacation this week. We can stuff and we're going to try to get the. Bethel mountain down to 40. But like, like we both agree. You can do that, but. You can't enforce it. You can put the signs up. But we're doing it more for GPS there into coincide with Bethel because their site is 40. And she also was pretty positive about. Dropping the village down to 25. So she thinks that that would be a good idea, but we're going to look into it when she gets up back. That's a state road. So we have to go through them, but because there's a school involved in the village center. We're going to be able to get it that way. So she would, she thought it was a good, a good place to try. So she's going to look into that. Of course. And that's something that's in the town plan. And it's, you know, it's been in the town plan. To look at that. And that's would be an enforceable. That's where. Yeah. Patrol sets up on the park and the school anyway. So we'll see if we can't do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Change their attitude. We're going to try again. It's on the. It's in the town plan. So we got to try to do it. I just have a quick question for the board about. The signs. You said you'd have to go through doing, you said something about you'd have to go through who like, you couldn't change the, the. Do you have the authority to do that? You'd have to go through someone else. It's a process. We don't, we can't just up tonight and say, we're going to change this. You have to. There's hearings and warnings and town inputs. Yeah. And then you have to adopt an ordinance in the end. That states where the, where the change is. And you got to outline it that way. Yeah. Oh, it's a lengthy process in you. And you can't make any decisions now. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. The process. You got to do a speed study. We just did one on the Buffalo mountain through two rivers. They come and set up the, you know, the counters and they can tell you how many axels go by. We were doing it just because we wanted to know how many trucks were coming over through and what kind of vehicles and they, they give you all that information. The time and date, you know, and they do it on a 24 hours cycle. Yeah. But we just did that in May. And then she, she was going on vacation. So we've got the, you know, all the stuff and what they found out and how. And it's kind of surprising. It's not. As much as you'd think, but it's. Whether or not we're just trying to drop that. To 40 to coincide with Bethel and she thinks it's a great idea to do that. So. First step. Yeah. Yeah. So we can look at the signage and see if there are any deficiencies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that is posted at 35. And then we'd have to see if there's, would be a requirement for a stop sign there. And it's almost the same thing as we have up by. Mike Bowen's place where that road used to swing right around the corner, but now you got to stop when you're coming up. You know, from middle hollow and it's a through pass going through. The upper one passes. Yeah. It's kind of the same position. So you'd have to stop traffic coming from both ways. Right. Well, to be continued then. Yeah. Yeah. You guys need something you want to talk about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You guys need something you want to talk about. Yeah, I don't know if we're, some, for now on the schedule. Well, we can. But that's your, you're here and nobody else is the heck. But, we were here. So pursuing our subject issue. We're looking at different options. We're hoping to. start the process of being able to apply or use the the town fund or septic fund. The town fund, which town fund. There's a loan that we were told about. Or are the funds. No. No, for a failed septic system. Yeah, I think it goes through the trustees. Yeah. Does it. I think it comes out as a lean on the property. I was talking to Margaret about it. And he said what it does is it's an attachment to the property. And it's a note. I think he said it's no interest. And basically it becomes a lean on the property. Until it's paid back. Until it's paid back. But I believe it comes out of the trustees. Yeah. I'm not sure, but it's certainly not out of our general budget. No, no. I think it's the trustees. And this would be not for, and this would be for hooking up to the town. That or we have been talking with. The engineer engineer about providing a new leach field. Because we didn't know how long we don't want to get into winter. And we didn't know how long it would take to get into winter. And still not have any answers about. Like what ballpark that would be if it's possible, how much of those funds would have to come from us. We, we haven't had any information about that. I guess it'd be good to give no prices. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we're happy to do any kind of paperwork. Do you have any input at this time? It's, it has to be. Oh, engineered. Has to go through the state. Station. It had to get ripped out. For. Coming onto the town system. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why we're leaning more. Yeah. But now the state was definitely not well. So, so you're looking at replacing your system as is. I'm in Lichfield. Yeah. Like Terry, the old one out. Put the new one in basically. Yeah. Or basically the same thing we did down back school. Right. Yeah. Just ripping it out and putting it in a new one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it's like, it's just a good idea to put it out and put it in a new one. It's about all you can do. Yeah. Okay. Just cricket. Looking at that. Is not. Is cricket looking at that or what? Yeah. She's, she's been looking at with us. Yeah. Some feedback. And. That's fine. About the family. You know, Come on. I know. Yeah. We're interested in this as a good excuse to upgrade that. That no pump station. Was that still your. Why. They would have to do it. It's privately owned. It's privately owned. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. We would still maintain a septic. So that's why we're thinking putting it in newly filled is a better option for us because it would just be our liquids going down. So to have to overhaul a pump house for three houses for. And still maintain a septic does not sound like a very appealing option to us. It'd be a lot of money. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if there's any double fall. If there's any state money available for that. It's not cheap. It's not going to be cheap at all. It's legit, but it looked as though it was parking for a, for a system. Excuse me. Their driveway. Your driveway. Yeah. Yeah. So as you go down the driveway, there's another flat surface that we had an engineer out and do test tools. And it'll probably have to be a mound system. And we were told that there may be a state. And then we were told there was. And we're just trying to figure out who we talked to and where this paperwork is. I don't want to point you. All right. Because I've been other ones that use that money. Yes. Right. Yes. And. It's not bad. Right. Well, it's not good. We're going to have to keep carrying things. We just don't get any kind of. Just. A few years. Yeah. That's, that's probably the way to go. Emergency fund kind of thing. Right. Well, we'll work with Julie and dig a little deeper and figure it out. So Julie, I believe you have my email. I just have a quick question you said something about I've somehow missed the name of the funding you were talking about that might they might be able to apply for we're not we're not sure what is actually called that's the question and that's what we're going to okay well No wonder I missed it. Sorry. Yeah, right. Okay. Thank you. No Nancy and no Bob the heart today. Sorry. So meanwhile you guys want to use the bathroom. Thank you. Thank you. So we have Mary Ross or Greg. You have Mary or Greg on soon. We have Greg. You hear me. Thank you. Yeah, so I wanted to give Slickboard an update on the riverbrook drive cover and our efforts to try to replace it. We've, we received funding to kind of get it to that next level so cricket's going to do the permitting. She met out last week at the site with jaren board from an hour. And he likes what he's seeing from cricket. And then I'm going to reach out to the adjacent landowners. We just received 75,000 from us fish and wildlife service to put towards us. And it was really, really good, kind of helpful. And then we had an opportunity to apply for an appropriation from Congress via Senator Leahy's office. So we thought we why not. And so we applied and we were accepted. So we could get an appropriation. And then we found out that that money is going through FEMA. And so the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service funds that we have cannot be used as match. And so the more we started looking into the process we just realized it's too difficult and not a good fit. So we have withdrawn from, from that. So we're still looking for, for money to implement. And so one question I have with. The state is going to allow multiple, but I could be wrong on that. But I don't just. So do you have what's the estimated total price. 315. Okay. That's that's what today's question is. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So I just said, the estimated total price. Three 15. Okay. That's that's what today's prices. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they would grab a bottom. I think the culvert said there. It's a pretty good shape. Still. They wanted. For the fish. It's a bigger structure so it would be less susceptible to flooding damage as well. Excuse me, Greg, did I understand you to say that you are not going to be taking that 75,000 from us? No, we are taking the 75. We're not going to take the appropriation via FEMA for all kinds of reasons. All kinds of reasons, yeah. So when are the next round of structure grants I think next April. Next April. And is there a time frame on the 75? Yeah, it's April and what I had suggested to Greg and Mary was the possibility that from time to time we could submit more than one structures grant request. Of course it all depends on how much money they have available and how much competition there is. But one question we need to know from Hooter is whether he has any projects that he would be coming up for next year. We hope to be having on the town line road project this year but the work would not be done until next year. That's our timing right now and we haven't heard from the trans yet. Right, didn't he have a section of like eight culverts he wanted to do too? I'm not sure all of them are structures grant size. I don't have a lot of information on that. And it was just a suggestion because the fee process as alluded to would be miserable for the town. And maybe there are some other sources. We have not gotten a cooperative agreement from Fish and Wildlife for a culvert replacement for two years and I don't know what the status of that is. That would be something else to look into and see whether that's going to be happening again and whether we could tap into that. The Forest Service, yeah. The stream does come off the forest so that's something that we can talk to Forest Service about. Yeah, well I understand that this is a priority culvert for them right? Which is one of the reasons for bargaining it. That would be a possibility also. At the same time that the West Hill bridge is being replaced. So it could be a busy year next year. Yeah, we might want to hold back on this. Well, it's going to take some more thought for sure. Okay, well I just thought I would ask. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, we need to gather really see what other irons are in the fire, what we come up in. And there's definitely going to be competition for those structure brands. Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, I don't know, you guys got anything else to say with that? Yeah, not our argophones. Sorry about that one. We've got too many uses for that already I think. Yeah, we won't get that much anyway, right? No. All right, well we appreciate the work you guys do, you know, tending to these and then what you do make happen for the towns. So, yeah. Keep us on the burner. Yeah, okay. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. All righty. Something in here about the Mascoma card processing services discussion. Yes, Mascoma Bank has a service that they can provide to municipalities and basically what it is, is a way for people to come in and use their credit cards. We don't have really a great way to for people to charge, whether it be their taxes or if you're, you know, buying or paying for multiple pages that your report are picking up or whatnot. So they will have a handheld gadget that actually we swipe the card and then the card, each card, each person who uses their card, it would be a 3.5% that's not for the, it's not on the town, it's on the card holder. So I had a couple of questions. I still was waiting to get back in touch with this gentleman and he mentioned in the documentation that it was a $250 fee for the machine. So I just, I want to clarify because it said there was no charge to the town. So I want to clarify that and then each receipt didn't seem to have, like it couldn't justify like what each itemized item was. So I kind of wanted to find out more about the details on the receipt. So I didn't have that for tonight's meeting, but I can, yeah, yeah. Do you get a lot of requests for card payments? Yeah, it seems like nowadays everybody uses, and this can be either for debit or credit. Does it integrate with any of our programs? It's more of like a bank. It's like a bank. Yeah, it'll hit our account by the end of the night and then we'll receive. And you have to pull the information out of the account and go apply it to their tax bill. Right. So it's kind of like when we receive pay port payments, I would assume. Yeah, there's no like extra footwork really to it at all. It's just a matter of entering, you know, if somebody comes in and wants to pay for a building permit or pay for pages or whatever with a debit or credit card, then you just enter cash receipt payment, which is normal process. And if somebody's paying their taxes, it'd be the same thing. And Nathan's all good with that. Does he recommend that? We haven't spoken to Nathan about this. Just one of the services that are going, our bank is providing for all municipalities that they have as a customer. So they had reached out to us and we do get quite a few people that request to use that. So we wanted to offer it if there wasn't a big fee. Like 250 has me kind of wondering. Is that a yearly fee or just a one time? I think it did say one time. The device itself. Yeah, but we thought she did say that there wouldn't be anything. Yeah, because we didn't pay for a scanning machine when we use one. So that was just a question I had. So I'll find out more and let you know. And this is one of the systems where the actual fee, the credit card fee is tacked on to the person using the card not deducted from what we get out of it. No, they showed examples. And that's why I was curious too, because their examples didn't really show detail of what like the charge was made for. So that was another, like we get a bunch of them in a day. It's going to be kind of challenging to keep track of everything. Well, you'd have to relate them somehow to the sale. Yeah. I think it was some kind of, get some kind of written receipt. Yeah, that's why I wanted to talk to them and see what they, what other towns are doing. You've got a paper trail for that. So right now we don't miss not an option for people to use credit cards. They can go on to the town website. Yeah, but it doesn't go anywhere. Right. And the only options they have when they pay by credit card online is the dog, license, utilities, and then taxes. That's all you can pay with a card. Okay. And in that situation now, are we getting the fees taken out of it from our cut when someone pays our taxes? Yeah, because it's they use like an e-check or whatever. It's just like adult, they receive a dollar 50 charge. And then if they use a credit card, then what is that? It's like 3%. So yeah, and then it's tacked on to the person who's paying. Yeah. So they're like paying 250 for taxes. So if we already have that in place, how is this? Because this can be used for anything. So registration, somebody comes in for registration. You can't do a DMV too here. No, no. But you can do like any of your permits to, you know, just everything that everybody, a lot of people just don't carry cash anymore. And even a lot of people when they come in to pay their taxes, they ask if we have a credit card. Yeah. Yeah. Just a system with the online, if they, you know, if they make sure they don't have a processing fee, just has a different name to it. You know, you've got a credit card fee and then you're processing. I think so. I think this was all, it's, it's different for municipalities than it is for a business itself as well. Yeah, it's a good thing. That's, I guess, nailed down some of those other questions. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We continue. Thank you. Joan, do you have anything else that you wanted to add to the evening? Yeah, a few miscellaneous things. Just updates. Let's see. WRP setting up a pre-construction meeting for the town garage stormwater project. The start date for that is July 18th. And the pre-construction meeting is the 22nd, just had it in my account, June 23rd. So I'm not going to be able to make that, but Frank will be there and Coudre presumably will be as well. Meeting representatives of the construction company and Christian Pelletier from White River Partnership. Just go over, oh, and the engineer also, Andres, who did our stormwater management plan. So they'll just be going over last minute details, questions that might be coming up. Phase two. Did you say that it was a meeting for the town garage? Town garage stormwater project. Stormwater project. Okay, pardon me. Thank you. I apologize for interrupting. That's okay. Phase two of the sidewalk project bids are out and they're due Friday, June 24th at 3pm. And no work yet, as I mentioned, on the Structures Grant for Townline Road from VTrans. That should be coming sometime soon. That's pretty much all I have. Tony on Zoom. Nobody here from the library. I don't know. You're from the highway. Matilities. You got anything new? No. Good. Not another report back yet, but no. I guess we won't be changing the balance law. They don't give those away, do they? Three grand a piece. Three grand a piece. I need 14 of them. I thought I stopped in there. You do the math. That's only Friday. I'm going to have to have a couple of them on the other side. They're probably close to grand piece. You're looking at over 50 grand. Oh, shit. No, I don't. 42 just without. That doesn't count. A couple of them. So you got, like, pretty good. It doesn't count taking them either. No. Right. So I guess we'll hold on. They actually worked a little better this year for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. But it shouldn't be. Right. That's why we're raising that's why we raised the rates. Yeah. We're kind of waiting to see we, we did have a meeting with the. Wendy Wilson there and that was pretty productive to show us how to read stuff. That was pretty interesting to see that in one of the things she did point out was the fact that we had raised the rates. And in this next year, we'll show what that. We've been in a deficit for so many years that. I think I've said that. Water sewer rates. But they're still way cheaper. I mean, for instance, you look what they're asking and talking right $30,000 and that doesn't count. Right. So I mean, when I made that schedule off. I want to cost you for your own personal use. I mean, the people in town getting away, they're cheap. And I'll probably go over it because I'm looking for surcharges for pumping. The bill. Well, we'll see. All right. $12,000 to pump the septic tanks for the town. What's that? It's between nine and $12,000. $14,000. Yeah. So is Jeff get part in here? Yes, yes. Jeff. Hello. Not much summer mode. We're working in the farmers markets and. Trash and recycling pickup days. So I'm going to start doing that in stock bridge as well. These are primarily focused on. Residents in the Rochester area, the Quintan area. Trying to connect them with resources to improve their homes and transportation. And energy use. Particularly pushing for weatherization. All right. That's it. All right. So the master financial policies under old business. Speaking of spending money. Yeah, I'm hoping to have. Something to bring forward. To the next select board meeting. So maybe we'll be. I'm not sure if we approve it section by section or if we can get a couple of sections together, but. I know Nancy's working with Lois. And they're also editing and looking at the policies as well. So hopefully we'll have something more substantial than we can. Give you guys to. Look at review. Breaking it down section by section. That's probably the way to go. Pretty big. Yeah. I know I read through most of it. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, um, have we done any. Made an order of any of the doggie bag dispensers. Things that we kind of figure out to the simplest, not with the. A receptacle, but just the dispensers. Yeah. I think that would be a good idea. I think that would be going through our performance for that. And that was all approved and. That would think that would be. You know, we weren't talking about a whole lot of money here. Is that something that we were going to. That Susie. Provided information on there. She, she had. Some options. Yeah. Check with her. Money-wise. Was it all that much money? $800. Yeah. Yeah. Because we were not doing the trash. Trash. Which would require. More maintenance. The dispenser. Put around. Right. And if we figured that the baggies were just being left. Full. At the bottom of the whole we were going to give her the dispenser. Right. Right. Take it home. Right. Put it in your pocket. Right. Right. Right. Right. Hang the bags in the trees. Put them on the. Bands. We'll give it a shot. Yeah. So how many. So we're thinking of. One on the park and down by the ball. By the firehouse. I don't have a lock on it. Yeah. It's not when I put it on. I don't know you, but. No, don't they. Don't they do it. When they clean it in the winter. Close it up. Yeah. I think you can tell them to go ahead. Yeah. I took my lock off after COVID there. Yeah. Anything else? Anyone else wants to talk about online. And I guess we're going to. Close the open meeting and move into. The open meeting. Yeah. I think you can tell them to go ahead and. Yeah. I took my lock off after COVID there. Yeah. After we get out of it. Yeah. Firehouse. I think I got. That'll be another technology. Right. Anything else. Okay. Close the open meeting and move into executive session to discuss. Real estate issues. Okay. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Bye guys.