 Hello everyone and welcome to Encompass Live. We have this show almost every week, just one or two a year that we don't have on Wednesday mornings at 10 central time and we're very glad you're here or you may be listening to the recording which is also great. So thank you for tuning in. I do need to remind you of a couple of things. There is a questions box in your go-to-webinar list of things that you can do and if you have a question you can type it in there and I will be watching for that and I will tell Kathy that oh we have a question about something and we'll try to address it as we go along. Also I'm supposed to remember to tell you that this is recording, this is going to be recorded and anything you say or type will be out there forever as we know. Anything on the internet is out there forever so please be kind and gentle because that's always the best approach I think. Today we're going to talk about the Golden Sower Award which I'm so excited about because because Kathy Schultz, the chair of the Golden Sower Committee is here today to give you the info about a little bit about history, a little bit about how the Golden Sower works throughout the year and how you as a librarian or teacher or parent can become involved to a small level or to a bigger level. So I am going to make, let's see just takes me a minute, I am going to make Kathy a presenter so you can see her and her computer and we'll learn about the Golden Sower today so you should be a presenter at any second now Kathy. There we go. Okay am I there? I still do not see you. I think you're fooling, oh there you are. I thought you were fooling me. I just had to figure out which button to push. Go ahead. Okay well thank you Sally this is really going to be fun today. I love talking about Golden Sower. All right can you hear me? Yes we can hear you and you're pretty clear right now so we'll try to, I forgot to mention that we have a little sound issue so we're going to talk a little more slowly and let our words stand alone so that we're sure people understand. Right it's not always easy for me to talk slowly so I'll do the best I can. I get to talking fast. I know that there are people that have had questions about Golden Sower and of us, you know, how does it work and so we thought we'd go back and I'm going to pull up a PowerPoint here. And there we go. Is that showing up okay Sally? Yes it is. It's loud and clear. Okay well here we have the history of the award. If, oops wait a second here. There we go. The award has been going on since 1981. That's when the first award was given and of course it's named for the sower on top of the Capitol building. That's not a sower or a sewer it is the sower literature. Encourage independent reading, increase library skills and also we want them to have an appreciation for excellence in writing and illustrating. So this is what we're looking for when we're looking for books to put on our nominee list. There are three awards now. Picture books are aimed at kindergarten through second grade, chapter books grades three through five and the novels grade six through eight or older. We do not care what age kids are. If you have a third grader that wants to vote for picture books that's fine. If you've got a second grader that's reading chapter books and wants to avoid that we don't really care. We want the kids to read the books that are appropriate for their reading level. And we also changed it a few years ago so that if kids want to vote in more than one category they can as long as they do be recommended amount of reading. For example you could have a third grader that reads picture books and chapter books. That's fine they could vote in both categories as long as they read at least four books from the nominee list from each nominee list. The first award as I said was 1981 and there was only one category at that time. It was called chapter books and the first winner was Benicula, still a favorite of mine. And then two years later the primary award which we now call picture books was added and cloudy with a chance of meatballs was the winner. In 1993 the young adult award was added. We now call it the golden soren novels and Joan Marie Nixon won for whispers from the dead. So you can see the votes total number of votes increase each year as we added the categories. All schools and libraries in Nebraska may submit votes. There are no fees you do not have to register. The voting is done online and we'll talk about that later when we go to our own webpage and all you need to participate is have copies of the nominees available for students to read. Now Kathy I've had a question before can we sometimes a school will be I mean lots and lots of schools are participating. I've had a couple of librarians from the public library ask me can we collect votes too and I asked about that and yes but go ahead. I worked in the public library before I retired and I always made it the ballots available for kids to vote at my library. Now I this was always on the honor system. I always said if you vote at your school do not vote here also and I never had a problem with that. If kids are voting in school that's great. If they do not have an opportunity to vote at school sure I hope that public libraries will give them that opportunity plus any home school students could vote at the public library. So yes it's great to have public libraries participate that way also besides having the books there for kids to read gives them a chance to vote. Thank you. Yeah they have to read or here read you can read them aloud students at least four books from the nominee list. So there's 10 on each list they do not have to read all 10. They may if they want but they do not have to read all 10 and they because I said they may vote in more than one category as long as they've read four books from each of the lists four picture books or four chapter books whatever. The votes are always submitted by April 15th online. That should be an easy day to remember because we seem to have April 15th stuck in our brains for some other reason and then winners are announced May 1st. We tabulate all the votes and that also gives me a chance to notify the winners before it's made public. We like them to know first and then the authors and illustrators are invited to attend the Nebraska Library Association Conference in October to receive their awards. Unfortunately we didn't have a conference issue. Oh my goodness. So I had to mail the clocks to them. This is I was very disappointed and I think they worked too. These are winners for 2020. The picture book winner and by Brian Salesman and David Serlin and the chapter book winner Magic Misfits by Neil Patrick Harris and Gordon Sower novel was restart by Gordon Corbin and it was interesting this year the picture book winner and the novel winner were both scholastic titles so I had one publisher to deal with there. This was the thank you note I received for a baby monkey private eye and I thought that was so cute. They were very excited about winning and since we do not have things up currently in our virtual museum I wanted to show you the pictures they sent also. There's David Serlin. This is a word. Oh I like his bag of Cheerios for his mask. Do you see the little jeans there? Yes. Thank you. And here's I'm just hoping baby monkey can put those jeans on when he needs to. Well I hope so yes and then and then baby monkey left us a note too so that's exciting. I read into this year the contact I had at Scholastic had said just you know you can just mail the award box to me and I'll forward them to the authors and I got a reply right back from Brian Salesman saying oh I'll save time if you just mail it here's my home address. Unfortunately I did not hear your back with a home address from Gordon Corbin so I mailed it to Scholastic in New York and as of yesterday he still has not received it. Oh dear. Yeah of course there's no reason. Well we're not working in the office right now but as soon as we get to the office we'll send it to so I don't know when he's going to get it. Things are really strange this year aren't they Sally reported. There are. It's really tricky. Yeah now I know a lot of people wonder how we get the titles on these nominee lists and we depend on teachers and librarians students parents anyone in Nebraska who's read a wonderful book and thinks it should be considered for the golden sour list to submit these titles. That's how we that's how we come up with our nominee list. We do not depend on publishers to send us lists. It has to be someone here in Nebraska that has actually read it and thinks it's worthy of consideration and then the titles that are submitted are put into a list for our volunteer readers and these volunteer readers read as many of these titles as possible and try to select the best 10 for each category. There are criteria outlined on our webpage and we'll talk about these right now too. The most important thing I think is the person that's submitting these titles must have read it not read a review in a magazine about it sounded good. We want you to actually read the book. You can nominate or suggest five titles per list per year and students can also submit them but we ask them to give these titles to their teacher or librarian to submit for them so that you can you know the librarian or teacher can check and make sure they fit the criteria before they are sent in. We want them to exhibit literary artistic merit. It has to be published within the last two years. That means right now we are looking for books that have a copyright of 2020 or 2021. So that's the ones we're going to be reading for this next year. We want current titles and be sure that the content is age appropriate for the readers of the category that you're nominating the title for. Sometimes people send in nonfiction titles and this is okay as long as they are suitable for reading aloud. Sometimes we have picture book biographies on the picture book list sometimes that's great. It's something that is not just like a textbook that you might have good information but we want something that's going to be fun to read and fun to share with younger kids. If there's a series which there often is only the first title in the series may be nominated. This is because often if you get the second or third book in the series it doesn't make a lot of sense if you haven't read the earlier ones. We want it to be a good standalone read. If it's in the series and it doesn't have a cliff hand to pin your ending for that first one that's great if it gets kids excited about wanting to read more but we want it to be a book that they would be able to pick up and enjoy all by itself and not have to read more books in order to find out what's going to happen next. Some stories end kind of leaving you hanging and and it's not a very satisfying read unless you can find another book to read it tell you what happens. The titles have to be in print of course because we want schools and libraries to be able to purchase copies. A Newberry and Calicot winner is not eligible but the honor books are. Now it has happened in the past that we have ended up with a Newberry or Calicot winner on our list and this is because we put it on the list before one ad award and so we do not disqualify it once the list has been published we do not disqualify titles just because they won the Newberry Calicot we thought aha we recognized it first. This is another one of the author and the illustrator has to have been living in the United States when the book is nominated. Now uh the uh this has happened in the past too the book was nominated and appeared on our list and then the author passed away. We do not disqualify the book we feel that it was worthy of recognition it filled the requirement of the criteria at the time it was uh nominated and made the list and we assumed that the family member uh a family member would be probably thrilled to get this award if the book was chosen by the students um uh an author cannot have more than one title on a list at the same time. Um the authors can be repeated in uh future years but you can't repeat the same title. And this one is kind of tricky this last one the winning author will be excluded from competition the following year. Now this has happened sometimes in the past uh for example Gordon won the 2020 novel award and I believe he has a title on this current nominee list for 2021. Kids can read that and count that book as the uh one of the four that they've read but he would not be eligible to receive votes that's it's kind of a tricky one we do not want this to be just uh uh oh I know I liked his last book and you know he can win because he won last year you know it'll be it's it's kind of tricky but that role has been there all along usually it's not a problem every once in a while that crops up and if you want to suggest titles be sure you think of them as something that that a book would a child would pick up that book and enjoy reading it not just that it would fit the school curriculum if it does that's a you know nice extra but uh it's not the way we select our books and here there's the April 15th date again you need to submit these titles by April and somewhere in there did you mention the I think I saw it on the list I can't remember if we focused on it each individual can nominate up to five titles per list but not more than that because we get flooded with too many things to consider reasonably well yeah it's kind of hard if you're if your readers are trying to go through a list of 200 picture books or something like that it's it's just makes it difficult we want you to submit titles only the best ones yeah yeah this is a nice four and but I want it to be an outstanding book if we're going to put it on our list there are a lot of titles that it's great to have in your library but but we want only the best of the best on our list so yeah to you use some discrimination when you're sending in these titles and this is how you suggest them uh the picture book and the chapter book lists are compiled by uh Sean O'Lenner at the Carney Public Library and Jill Anas is a school librarian and she takes care of our golden sore novel list and then our volunteer readers you know as these titles are suggested they have created groups on Goodreads they are private groups only for our readers and if you if you want to be a reader you also would contact Shauna for the picture book or chapter book list and Jill for the golden sore novel list and they were you would get an invitation to be a part of this Goodreads group you can start reading the books now you know they're up there right now and every time they get a new one suggested they just add it to that that bookshelf on Goodreads and it really makes it an easy way to share comments also as the readers read them they'll put in oh yes this was great or oh maybe I had a problem with this one because you know it stimulates some discussion about about the books as you're reading them which I think is really neat and sometimes that guides me I'm reading all three lists because I'm crazy but um I look at what people say and they go that this book has 12 negative comments I'm not going to read it now I'm going to read these other ones that I haven't read yet because I think they're more likely to be a golden sore quality book does that make sense how I put that if you don't have time to get them all read especially it may guide you to like you say to read the ones that that have more positive comments and put those others off you know read them later if you have time and make your own decision of course but it might help you prioritize which ones you want to read first now if you've read one and it has several negative comments and also some good comments please don't hesitate to put your comments there because if you love it oh yes oh you love it and why I like it when people say why they love a book or why they have a problem with the book because that makes sorry yeah I think that's that's very important to have those positives and negatives so you can make your own decision too now that's a good good point and if people need to contact me about anything there's my email address and I think yeah um I'm going to close this and we'll go to the golden sore web page how about that that's a good idea here we are okay here's the golden sore can you see it Sally yes we see it thank you great all right um yeah if you look up here it says sites.google.com don't worry about that all you need to do is type in golden sore.org and it will take you to this site a number of years ago we had a problem with website we moved it and so if you type golden sore.org you will get to our web page it will take you directly to this and there's so much available here for adults working with the program first of all you can click here to go to our facebook page and you'll get uh not a lot of stuff I'm the one to post things on that facebook page and I'm not a great one for doing that but oh well I try to I try to post pictures and um announcements oh look there Sally and I are going to be on the in-conference slide but here's an important one join our mailing list this will not flood your inbox with lots and lots of email but you will get things like a reminder that it's time to submit your votes announcement when the winners have been announced you know just just strictly golden sore information and not a lot of emails so if you want to keep up to date please sign in here it's very easy if you go there let's see oh my look at there you're just filling your name and your email address and submit and that's that's all it takes that's not very complicated no that's pretty easy um here well this will take us to a link for the uh a list of this year's this school year's nominees and uh it's a PDF document that you can print off so that you uh you have them all and it's uh six pages long so that's not too bad but here it's very important here's the nominees for next school year they were just announced a few weeks ago we try to get this up by September 1 it was a few days later this year because of COVID but if you click there you can pull up the list of all the nominees for the 2021-2022 school year this is uh we try to get these up early because libraries and schools like to purchase the books and have them available when school starts in August or whenever it's going to start so we try to get it up as soon as possible it's also sometimes you know if there's a great demand and you need to wait for a reprint put them early because you know you want to be sure to have them on the shelf for the kids when when the school year starts but we've got some wonderful titles I think coming up for that 2021-2022 school year so I'm hoping people read them and get as excited as we are about them on the homepage we also we post the winners from 2020 of course that'll change next year down here at the bottom mentions that we now sell our manual on teachers pay teachers but I'm encouraging all Nebraskans at least to buy them from our store buy the manual if you buy it directly from the golden store store golden store gets to keep all the money if you buy it from teachers pay teachers we get a small part so you know that's just the way commerce works but what this has done is increased our reach with our manual people can go on to teachers pay teachers and buy the activities for a single book if that's the one they're using their school and people from all over the country could purchase these activities not just Nebraska librarians so that's kind of why we put it on teachers pay teachers to make it make our audience larger so if that makes sense here's the store I'm going to show you that right now since we're talking about the manual if you click there we sell things in our store to help make money to promote the program normally we would need money to bring authors and illustrators to Nebraska to receive their awards this year well I guess the good thing about COVID is we save money right I don't think that's that was not what we had to do but oh no the manual is not available any longer in print form it has gotten too expensive to print the manual and the cost of postage was very high so now we have a usb drive and you will receive the manual on a usb drive so it's much easier it's very easy to stick it in your computer and you can print out whatever you need to from the manual you can purchase stickers to put on the books to identify the nominees in your library there's a rubber stamp that you can get I was stamped inside the cover of the books and wrote the year that it was nominated because kids like to go back and and look at those and say oh look this this was a nominee two years ago we have a pewter pin of the sewer that you can that you can get I use these triangle stickers on the covers of the books to let the kids know which books were the winners and so oh my goodness look at that I have the old mug can you see that song yes we can and I have I'm gonna have to buy the blue one too to have a set right you're gonna have to have one of each right cool those post it notes there's balloons lanyards and then we have bookmarks down here oh pencils if you need something small items so you know you want to give the kids but we have sometimes the winning picture book illustrator will donate a drawing for us to use to make a bookmark and here we have guest stone which was the 2017 winner 2015 creepy carrots that's a fun one and then the 2019 Madeline Finn and the library dog that one is a little more extensive because she did one in color for us and it's beautiful she did a special drawing with the state of the brass cotton I thought that was wonderful and oh a little alert here we will be having baby monkey bookmarks coming as soon as they're ready from the printer so keep an eye on our store for those they are going to be cute um let's see oh there's a a bag I love my tote bag and look I'm wearing my shirt did you notice that but how many opportunities do I get to do that here's a we forgot Brock bookmark in 2018 so these are all available payment orders go to artist moody one of our committee members and Lincoln her email address is here if you have questions you can click to get the order form all the all the prices on here include tax and shipping so you know we've got that all all included in the price and please always print off a new order form each time you order sometimes people come up with an order form that they printed off four or five years ago and the prices have changed the items have changed some things on there may no longer be available on the old order form you know that we don't have them anymore so please always use a new order form you can either click here for the order form I think there was a place up at the top too right here and click there it'll just pull up PDF that you can print off it has all the items and the prices listed and the address everything's on the order form so let's go back and see what else we have on here when you go to this link you can find out some of the things we already talked about the history of the program the selection criteria um this history of voting some people might find out interesting that is the total number of votes each year since the award began and I think that's very interesting here's where the young adult one was added these two years we've lost those figures we if we find them we'll stick them in there but we didn't find them in our archives I'm not sure what happened something out thrown away Sally can you imagine I can't imagine how something could get misplaced I know and look at this this is what was so sad this year due to schools being closed in March before the voting ended a lot of students were not able to get their votes in and we felt so bad about that but there really there wasn't much we could do this year I'm hoping I'm hoping next year we'll be back up to you know closer to 70 000 so the voting link is right here and the voting site goes live on November 1st I want to be sure and mention this because if in particular the picture books if you librarian or teacher is reading them all 10 of the books to our class and have them all done November 1st or December or January you don't have to wait till April to submit your votes go ahead as soon as you finish reading the 10th book have your your picture book kids go ahead and vote and submit those votes that would have helped us a lot this year but otherwise you know if you wait till April then you have to go back and refresh their memory what the book was about so go ahead and and have them vote while they're fresh in their minds now I know with the chapter books and the novels you want to give them as much time as possible to get books read you don't you know you don't want them to necessarily vote in November so this is probably more for the picture book winners but it's very easy to submit your your votes there will just be a link here to click on once they go live that will take you directly to a document where you submit your total votes not just the ones that were the winner in your classroom or your school but the total number of votes for each of the 10 titles if there's a title got zero votes putting a zero there but it's important that you submit all of the votes because they're tabulated from all over the state and just because one book didn't get many votes in your school maybe got a lot of votes in another school so they all count so be sure that every single vote gets submitted let's see here nominees this will take you to lists for this year this school year's lists I'll show you one of those it's just a list of the titles and this is interesting because this will tell you the entire history from when the award began if you go to this page you'll get every single picture book winner from the beginning to you froze a little bit Kathy so we're not hearing you right now okay just a second something there we go I heard that something I'll have a notice pop up can you hear me now yes we can hear you now yes okay if you go to this last document past nominees and winners this will show you every single title that has ever been nominated oh wow first year 1981 there's the winner and there's the honor books those are kind of like runners up just like in the Caldecott Newberry and if you notice these are all the other nominees there's more than 10 titles there because when they work again they have 15 titles on the list and so there's a lot that was a lot a lot of books to read and I believe it changed after the let me go down to 1993 94 I think it was after the I'm hoping I'm not making you dizzy here scrolling down after the young adult award was added they went to 10 and then we said you know that's probably a good idea let's do that with the other two awards also um partly it's it's a number of books the kids need to read that's a lot of books 15 of course nobody had to read all 15 but still that was a lot of books and also uh cost wise that was a lot of books for schools and libraries to purchase because many purchased uh multiple copies so we decided you know 10 maybe is a good number for all of the lists so it's been 10 ever since um we talked about the voting uh this is some frequently asked questions you might look through there and it might answer your questions if you don't find the answer your question there you can go and be able to contact us and here's a list of members of the golden sore committee and their their tasks on the committee and you can take the email addresses there and send your questions directly to the appropriate person if you can't figure out who to ask you can ask me that's fine um but uh let's see oh I wanted to be sure and mention that uh Dana Fontaine is the who added her along with me I do all the proofreading oh my gosh I hope I do good every year I think I've done it perfectly and as soon as I look at the manual I think oh my goodness I made a mistake but uh that's life right I'm human um but she's our manual editor and we depend on volunteers to prepare the activities and pages that go into this manual and if you are interested in taking one of those new nominees for the 2021 2022 school year and preparing activities for the manual for us she would be the one to contact uh and let her know um which title you'd like to work on and as a thank you you will receive a free copy of the manual next spring after it's been prepared you'll get the usb well actually I think she will just email it to you probably I don't think but you'll get the entire manual free charged and the manual includes activities for all 30 nominees all three of the levels so let's see is there anything else that I've forgotten as we went along here um right I just checked and we didn't have any questions yet but let me look again no not yet if you have a question that's been here's Shauna Linder and Jill Anas that worked with the uh readers our volunteer readers oh I know we were going to talk about uh becoming a member of the committee yes yes uh the only requirement uh to be a member of the Gonesore committee is uh it's open to all members of the school library let's see oh children's abuse what is it skip you children and young people thank you thank you but I couldn't say it this morning skip section of the Nebraska library association because skip is the sponsor of our award so all members of the school children and young people's section of the Nebraska library association are welcome to become members and help us we're on this committee however there are other ways that you can help without being a member of skip all of our many of our volunteer readers are not members of skip they are teachers librarians uh some parents uh from Nebraska that want to read these books and help us select the final nominee lists and we depend on their input um this these lists are not put together by one person this is uh they take it very seriously and we have some very um interesting discussions uh you know polls and cons on books and trying to trying to get the best uh most comprehensive lists we can um and these readers take it very seriously and it's a big commitment a time commitment to read as many books as possible now this this year with COVID it was especially challenging because it made it difficult to get to libraries to to find these books to read um I have to tell you Sally I read all three lists also and a number of the picture book uh suggestions that were on our list I had to go to YouTube and try to find somebody reading the book on YouTube in order to see the book and find out what the story was like and help make my decisions that way which was a good option uh this year I I was glad that was available now in other years and hopefully in the future again there have been uh the Seward Nebraska library has held this longer but they have all the picture books and they had a special day where whoever could make it that day came in the morning they open at nine and you just sat in the red picture books it's my favorite meeting of the year and you could get all of the books read but um this year yeah that was fun and Carney Public Library started doing that a couple of years ago also um usually uh let's see the one in Seward was usually the Friday before Memorial Day and the one in Carney was um early June I believe so I think they did have the books available at Carney maybe in June or July when they opened up but you know of course you had to like make an appointment to come in and they could only take so many people of time because they were trying to socially distance around the room so um at least they did make the effort Seward did that too because I went to Seward with my friend and she and I sat there all morning and read picture books but it was just her and I and we socially distanced and I asked them about you know should we wear plastic gloves to touch the books and she said well we're telling people that you know it's come and read at your own risk they're not I mean they wipe the books off but that is not a guarantee that it's completely clean right so well we're doing the best we can just like everyone I guess in this this time but we're hoping that kids are back in school and able to read these books it's really it's you know everything has changed this year hasn't it so but this is a good place to find email addresses if you need to contact uh if you have a question of any please send me an email and if somebody else on the on the committee is better able to answer the question I will forward the question to them we have our webmaster here there's the web page our historian there's there are a lot of jobs kind of behind the scenes with golden sore that most people probably don't see or think about but it it is confusing I know when we're talking about the nominees you know we're talking about this year's books next year's books the year after that so it's it's hard sometimes to keep that all straight in my mind but I do my best let's see is there anything else we need to be talking about on our homepage do you think sorry I think we've talked about over there I think we've hit most of the things we've talked about presenting yeah I'm looking over my notes I think um oh I know we'll talk about suggesting the books um I'm trying to think if it's listed here yes here also it tells you uh where to send your suggestions if you found a wonderful book that uh fits our criteria and you want it considered for the golden sore word please send the titles to Shauna or Jill depending on which list you think it's appropriate for and this is what you need to include uh they will need the author's name title illustrator's name if there is an illustrator publisher copyright day ISBM and please include the state in the united states where the author lives because that is one of our requirements the author uh and or the illustrator must live in the united states and they don't have time to look up all of these books so you need to include that information and as I said we are currently looking for books that have a 2020 or 2021 copyright date and they will add these to the Goodreads bookshelf until April 15th next year next spring and those will be the ones that we're selecting oh my gosh let me see if I say it right the 2022 2023 school year I think and also while you're talking about the timeline the the lists will be complete so to speak by April 15th or soon after they'll get everything on there and then you have until roughly the middle or end of July to read as much as you can right I think usually it's in the past it's been toward the end of July to get all those books read and that's why having them on the Goodreads bookshelf helps because if the book's up there you can go ahead and start reading them now you don't have to wait till April 15th to start reading them um which is kind of the way it used to be before we had all this wonderful stuff on the computer we would get a listing uh in the mail in April and and think oh my gosh I can read all these books before the end of July but you know you can start now and um the uh well I was gone somewhere with that song and I lost my three foot that happens to me too my three foot got derailed but yes I think the good thing to emphasize is to start now because there's I think 13 books on the novels list right now and I've read three or four of them already so like I'm I'm already good to go and I want more good books on that list but I can read several while we wait I remember this year now we we did extend it the readers we gave them until about August 22nd or something like that instead of the end of July and then we we have a zoom meeting with our readers as many as possible following weekend to discuss the titles and help put together the list and I thought that worked very well this year didn't you Sally to have a zoom meeting and sit on a person meeting yes I thought it did work quite well and when you're doing your voting before that meeting they ask you to mark all the books on the list that you have read so keep track of that and then the up to 10 that you think are quality for the list and what yeah one of the things Shauna emphasized at our meeting was if you've only read 10 books out of say 60 but a couple of them in there are really good go ahead and vote mark your 10 you read and vote for the two you think are terrific because that brings more opinions into the whole thing so you don't have to read more than half or any you can set your own goal but if you only get so many read still vote for the however many you think are really good because that's important I think that's a good point thank you for bringing that up Sally yes no matter how many you get read if you if you don't think you can get the whole list read that's fine we still want you to tell us which ones you read and which ones for the best ones yeah okay let's see anything else maybe we've covered it all can you imagine that I there are no questions in the question section of the of the form up there so I think we did a good job somebody's gonna send you an email later today and say by the way I just got to thinking about and then answer them right well and a lot of things we talked about in the PowerPoint are also available right here on the webpage so remember www.goldenseller.org and and that will take you to our webpage and you can find all this information very easily and quickly I hope that no questions doesn't mean we put everybody to sleep Sally I hope not but I'm afraid to well then we don't have them on camera so we don't know that's true yeah I was just gonna say on the webpage people can go there and find that section where you showed everybody's email so when they do have a question like you said next week they can find your contact us that was it they can find you or they can find Jill or Dana whoever they need to contact you know I guess I should mention if you see something on the website if you have a question about or a problem with or you think there's an error please do send me an email you know things like updating I mean we we got our winners posted here and I think it was last week it suddenly dawned to me I had not updated those places and added the 2021 so you know there's too many different places things that have to be changed or updated and sometimes we forget them so if you have a question or a problem accessing something on the webpage or whatever please contact us and let us know so that if there is a problem that we can take care of but we can do that good point yes you know this little technology thing if I could just all great when it works oh I know I was going to mention our virtual museum years ago we had pictures and things up for all the winners back to the beginning it was just wonderful and then a number of years ago we had this huge computer crush that was when we transferred our webpage to Google and made all these changes and if you go here now it's under construction we have things listed here see we haven't even updated it to 2020 but we have not been able to put in all the pictures and all that I'm hoping someday this will happen but as you know everyone's busy our webmaster is a school librarian who is very busy and you know every time we think we're going to have time to work on it something like covid pops up and and something else takes precedence so eventually I would like to see those pictures that I showed you of Brian Selznick and David Serlin and Serlin posted up here in our virtual museum that was the whole idea so that kids could go here and see the winners uh with their clocks and things like that so hopefully hopefully in the future that will happen we do have a comment in the question section now the comment is thanks ladies I'm not sleeping I have enjoyed your presentation a lot so yeah thank you yeah thank you so if we don't have other questions and I think that Kathy thank you so much you did a great job covering all the aspects of this um wonderful award it's so great that you're the still the chair of the Golden Sower Committee if I know she said once if someone else wants to be they can but nobody wants to take it away from you you're too terrific well someday they're gonna have to so Kathy Schultz former librarian now retired yay that means she has more time for Golden Sower right I think it's probably what it is I I look at some of the things I've been doing for Golden Sower recently and thinking how did I get all those things done while I was still working I don't know but yeah it's nice to be able to uh like when I am proofreading the manual to be able to sit down and just work on it for several hours without interruption I had trouble finding that before well thank you for proofreading the manual and thank you also for being here today and if I get any questions I'll direct them to you and okay well thank you Sally for lining this up this is always fun and thanks everybody for coming in today or watching us later to learn more about the Golden Sower award and I hope some of you decide to become involved if you haven't before become a reader or even suggesting some titles that you think are extra special would be appreciated so that's true so that's why you can you can you can volunteer to without being on the committee you volunteer to be a reader you can volunteer to help with manual pages I'm going to mention that again because Dana said oh please please ask people to volunteer she has some of the titles already spoken for so if you are interested in a particular title contractor right away and hopefully it's still available if not I hope you'll pick a different one but uh yeah we we meet all your happen input uh I think that makes the manual better too when you have so many different people working out that have different ideas they they all see it differently than I do for example I worked in a public library I didn't necessarily do activities from the manual with the students so I have more trouble coming up with activities that teachers do but you come at it from a different angle so that's good okay well thank you Kathy now I'm going to change presenter back to me so I can wrap this up thank you so much so we will um wave goodbye to everybody thanks everybody bye bye