 Back guys to the show, the show is Rock to a Live right here on Y2P4 TV. I know most of you are wondering, like we're listening to music, then what happened? Now, already it's a short film, we'll be talking to the guys in charge of that, they're called... Okay, he's gonna say it's Rafiki, but I'm telling you it's Rafiki, but we'll be getting it. From them, they'll be telling us the right pronunciation of that. But about now, get on the hashtag Rock2P4, do talk to us, they'll know what you can play for you, and we'll be doing just that. My name is Filin, find me at Filinjin across also show me the platforms. And our DJ is at DJ Hewskills, find him on Facebook and Twitter everywhere at DJ Hewskills. Oh, apart from Instagram, he's actually Hewskills1, he'll be telling us why he chose that name. But thank you so much for saying with us guys, and we have guests in the studio right here. Alright, so I think I'll just go ahead and let them introduce themselves and tell us maybe their names and why they're here. Yeah, I think that would be fair, right Hewskills? Alright, so I'll start on my left then on my right. Alright, so you can introduce yourself. Hi, I'm Jacqueline Amali, I'm a script writer. Right, I think you'll use camera one. Okay, I'm Jacqueline Amali, I'm a script writer, and the secretary to the Kenya Script Writers Guild. Right. And also a producer. Oh, she's all kinds of amazing, multi-talented. We love that, right Hewskills? Oh, yeah, he'll always say that. If I say your multi-talented, he'll say you're killed. He'll find a way to meet his name right there, because he's Hewskills, so. I'm telling you, and then on my right I have... My name is Meloda Church. I'm also a script writer, I'm a member of the Kenya Script Writers Guild. I'm also the founder of Rafiki. Right, so you'll use camera four. So my name is Meloda, I'm a script writer, I'm a member of the Kenya Script Writers Guild. I'm also the founder of Rafiki, that's rock and roll film festival Kenya. It's spelled R-O-F-F-E-K-E, but it's pronounced Rafiki because the motto is friendship, fun, freedom. And the mission is basically just to promote rock music in Kenya by film. Yeah, good. That's simple and direct. I told you, you know how someone goes wrong and they're like, let's Google it. And then you find out you're correct. That's what I'm talking about. I'm like, I told you. I told you. I'm like, what were you saying? I told you it's Rafiki. Because it's all about friendship. Okay, whether I'm correct or not, but the correct pronunciation is Rafiki. It's not about how it's written. Okay, I give it, I give it. Hi guys, welcome to the studio. It's so good to have you on the show. First of all, I want to know, Mildred, why rock music? You concentrate on any other genre, but you chose rock. Why? I like to say that rock chose me. I started out listening to my dad's record collection. So he was into the Kawaii Dakina Elves and country music. So country music and rock are, you know, like... And then Little Station, well it wasn't very little, but Capital FM came on the scene. And it just introduced me to this whole new world of rock. So there really isn't any particular reason why rock. I'd say, why not rock? Why not rock? I just love the energy, the passion, the message, the poetry. Everything about rock. Right, and we like that. So maybe I can ask you, if you're for someone who's never heard about Rafiki. Well, Rafiki, Rafiki, let's call you Rafiki. For someone who's never heard about them, what can you tell them? When was it founded and by who? I think Mildred will be... Mildred will be... So she's here because Rafiki partnered with Kenneth Scripter's Guild. She's one of the members of the film team. So I'm going to talk about Rafiki. She's going to talk more about the film and the Guild. So Rafiki was actually officially founded around 2006-2007. I had the first screening in 2007. It was at the pavement. I don't know how many people remember the pavement. They all don't remember. So I did the first one and then I went on a long break. And then I discovered this platform, online platform, where people from all over the world could submit films. So it was sort of like an experiment. I just put the mission of Rafiki out there and said, I want short films that either have a rock theme, and that was very broad in general, or have a rock soundtrack. So does it have to be a movie or it can even be a music video? It can be a music video. The only criteria is that it shouldn't be more than 10 minutes, though I always make exceptions. Some documentaries are rockumentaries, which are really, really good. Oh wait, I like that one. Rockumentaries. No, it's instead of a rockumentary. So far I've gotten films from all over the world, but one from Kenneth. So that makes me really sad. And now that I have this opportunity, I'd just like to tell all the filmmakers in Kenya, please, if you have a short film that has a rock genre and rock is very broad, but just in friendship, fun, freedom, or a rock soundtrack, just submit it to Rafiki. I wouldn't charge you. There's no submission fee for Kenyan filmmakers because I really want to promote Kenyan films and also Kenyan rock music. But someone would ask, you're saying it should have rock theme. For someone who's just watching the show for the first time, they have no idea what that means. Maybe you can help us expand on that. When you say rock theme, what does that actually mean? As I said, it's very broad, but there's certain things about rock fans and people who like rock. They're rock genre, and it's captured in the motto of Rafiki, which is friendship, fun, and freedom. Friendship, because the very idea of a band, you've got to be friends to come together. Fun, because rock has always been about fun. Yeah, and anxiety. No matter how old you are. Freedom, because rock, from the very beginning, if you look at the history of rock, it's always been about questioning things, questioning why things are the way they are, questioning injustices. The history of rock is that black music, and that time it was black music, and white music came together, and it bridged that gap and started questioning why is racism there, why is there so much injustice. So there's that aspect of freedom. So I guess that's very broad, and it's just up to the filmmaker to decide whether it's got either friendship, fun, freedom. Right, and I would love to know when did you join in, and why did you decide to join her in the rock journey of making film and just putting the rock content out there. Why did you decide to do that? I first did a film called On Your Max, and when we were in edits, we were looking for music, and we asked Mildred, hey, do you know any guys who have music? Yeah, true. So she was like, I can get you rock music, and bring it on. And the first time we, the tracks that we got from Muffet's Flow and Rich, who are Kenyan, they are all amazing, we all love them. In fact, I remember last week we played our 98% local music, and then we played Muffet's Flow and then the guys were like, you say local, but I don't think they are local. And then I paid BSP ties in the videos and they were like, oh, is it true? Yeah. So that was the first movie that we did with rock music. Right. And then now this is the second run alone, where it also still features Rich and simply Thomas. Yeah, we miss simply Thomas, by the way, we need some more music. It's been a minute. It's been a minute, yeah. I promise this will be the first one. So is it working or something? No, I cannot wait for that one. Right. So the most interesting thing is the story is about mental health and it was an all collaborative project. And the music, the actors, the crew, the cast, everyone came on board in terms of partnership. And it's an initiative that the Kenya Script Writer's Guild is working on because our main aim is to improve the quantity and quality of scripts in the country. Right. So besides that, it's also to give a platform for our script writers to have a credit because it's not a script until it's seen. True. So once the movie is made, you get your credit. That is one of the main aims that we are working on as the Kenya Script Writer's Guild. And that's where Rafiki came in also. Yeah, Rafiki. And by the way, just to clear let me just clarify something. Rafiki is an organization called R-O-F-E Double-K-E Double-F-E-K-E Double-F-E-K-E Right. It's Rafiki but we pronounce it as Rafiki. So when we say Rafiki, we're not talking about the controversial movie. And I just to clarify that because we have some... We're not promoting Rafiki the movie, we're talking about an organization. Right. Sorry, I got you short. You're not done yet. Alright, so I wanted to know the reason you joined her was because of the soundtrack. I think 90% of movies and series is not just abroad and even now, even locally most people are opting for that. What do you think most people opt for? I mean, soundtracks other than other genres because we have so many genres of movies and series. 95 movies. That's an 80% Absolutely 98% That's all go for rock music. Actually a movie is a movie without a rock song. It's no movie. It's interesting you said that because when they released the end credits of alone before the film they actually released the end credits and the end credits song is the Simply Thomas song. It's a blog post and I mentioned about three movies where the end credits featured rock songs. One thing I found out is that the message in the song correlates to the message of the entire movie. Like I said, rock has always been about sending a message and I think that's one reason that people choose rock songs because rock is not just about the beats it's always a certain message and then also another thing is I mean rock has this energy and when we watch a trailer and there is this rock song which has a little energy you get so motivated I don't know what to wait I have to watch this movie It's all a mess so I guess those are just two reasons but there will be more another reason could be that if there's a big rock band, let's say Metallica imagine if Metallica decided that oh we want to have our music alone it's great marketing so I encourage Canon filmmakers we have amazing Canon rock bands so please partner with them because they will raise the head they are a volunteer culture right and I have a question it's not totally related but she talked about mental health and since these are rock shows we find that some rock artists and just even sometimes I don't know what happens but we find that most of them are depressed and they are dealing with a lot some even end up taking their own lives right and maybe you can move a little closer to me that's better why do you think that is it cuts across but mostly when it comes to rock music I think most of them it affects them a lot more than other genres because most of them take their lives they cannot handle maybe the depression and the stress I don't know where is the science in that because I've been trying to connect it and I don't know how that happens because when that happens the guys are like oh no I don't know I guess I'll start she can expound on it my personal theory is again like I've said rock is very passionate and when you're passionate sometimes you don't know how to handle handle things and then there's this school of thought that creativity and madness go together which is true I think it's true it's just because creatives we all are creatives creatives tend to question a lot like we don't take things sitting down so when you start questioning the injustices in this country you get depressed but you can't stop yourself because you're like it's not right it's not supposed to be this way and sometimes you don't have that support system and then you just feel like oh it's hopeless and then you decide to take matters which is wrong but I think basically rock fans and creatives in general it's because we feel so much see too much I think the highs are so high and the lows are low very very very low I think for me I think it's not that we are so high it's just that we do have platforms where we kind of let it out and not so many people want to hear that I actually think that so many people who are not involved in the creative industry are the ones who are suffering more because it's in the silence for us we have ways of getting stuff out I'll write a song, I'll write a poem I'll dance to it, I'll do a film go ahead and you're going to mosh the injustices but it's such a I can say it's a sensitive area, we are just guessing things here but maybe it's something that needs to be looked into it's a conversation that needs to go on because stop assuming artists who are dying of it, they're only dying because it's what you guys are making it look like or because they're in the limelight exactly, but there are so many people how many suicides did we have since January, there are a lot there are a lot of cases even the we're going to talk there because the rocker does something he goes you guys are satanic and speaking about satanism and all that so our topic of discussion today we talked about last week but what we're talking about cults and social groupings we're doing a continuation of that topic today because we didn't finish talking about that so when someone the reason why I say that is because when you have people have these it's a myth, I don't know, it's a stereotype when it comes to rock music, they're like when you say rock, they're like no, those are satanists, they do this they're cults, they're into cults they do a piano art you know, such things maybe you can tell us about that, what are your thoughts when you talk about cults and social groupings, cults and social groupings well cults and social groupings are not restricted to just rock it's a human nature thing, if you're a human being you want to belong and you want to feel like you're special and usually those are things that cults sell to people you're not like other people you're not allowed you're not allowed okay so cults are not restricted to rock, I think it's just because rock is so and rock fanatics are fanatics they are loyal we are so fortunate that it may seem as though it's a cult but it really isn't it's just people who are like minded getting together and having fun but like in anything it can move to the extremes so it's not just a rock thing it's a human nature thing there are certain signs and symptoms that you have to be aware of like usually money is involved actually if you are told to sell all your possessors so there are certain signs that whether you're a rock fan or football fan if they start asking for money if they isolate you from your family your friends those are red flags so you just have to be aware if you get to a place where it's so personal it's so personal like when someone says something let's say we're having an argument I say something you don't agree with or I talk bad about what you believe in we start fighting when it gets to where you have to like something in a book you're like yeah if I need to take a step back what are your thoughts and still on that what makes people get it twisted it's maybe because of the make up maybe rock artists do does that contribute to people thinking maybe it's cultism because of that I don't know why they don't talk about that in terms of football because we all know what happens in football so football is good it's bad rocker dies and then someone is making a salary but then again it's back to the extreme like Mildred has said when you have to stop eating when you have to stop socializing when you have to stop being new you should think about it more than any other thing because the thing is back to Rafiki fun friendship and freedom if you are going beyond that then there is a problem there is a problem you just have to be you everything that you're still doing you can still support any team or another we can call it a cult there are so many other things they can list but when you say them we understand so you wanted to say something if I could just say something small about make up make up did not start with rock if you look back at the ancient Egyptians if you look at the Maasai the Nigerians so make up should not be a factor in determining whether someone is from the devil or not I know so what have you achieved so far since you are inside show 90 right now do you have something tangible you can give and say like at least we have impacted the society in this and this way the alone film that's a huge achievement because as I said the mission is to promote rock music in Kenya by film and that's literally what we are doing right now but before that she mentioned on your mark that's another short film that she wrote and then before that there was band band which I wrote and she was the assistant director oh nice it featured music by Rush by L.Y.T by P.L.G by speed chaser so that's one aspect but another aspect which I find so interesting is because I have made contact with people from all over the world and people are so interested in this thing called Rafiki and it's really small because I work with volunteers basically Rafiki is me but I work with many volunteers but established directors established producers actually submitting their films to this film festival because it seems there's a hunger for people who love rock and who love film so I think for me it's achieving the motto of friendship and freedom because I consider all these people who submit their films friends and I'm hoping that in the future if things work out they can come over here and they can do collaborations with Ken and Filmy right so as we wind up because I want to know for someone who's looking to sign up with you how do they do it and then after they've submitted because you've talked about it's sort of like it's just you so what are they supposed to expect maybe someone signs up and they bring in their movie what do they get in return so the film festival is a bit different from others in the sense that there isn't just one big event like I have several in one year like we had one last year and he was a guest it was at Aga 7 Memorial Park so I go to various locations universities there's ones I had so what I do is when I get the films I make a theme around a certain group of films and then I showcase them to audience members so when someone submits their film definitely it will get watched within the year it will get watched because my role is to promote the films as much as possible and then create discussions around the films alright that's amazing so as we wind up I just want to know if you have any last remarks and your social media handles if someone needs to talk to you more where can they find you and if you have anything to tell young filmmakers out there who are looking to maybe walk with you or maybe just go on this journey of being a producer or a director or a writer you know all these awesomeness maybe you can just tell them one or two things and then remind them of your social media handles and then she has to give herself so for us our main aim this time is alone the movie which will be launching on the 30th and the tickets are on sale so you can check us out on social media at Kenya Script on Facebook at Kenya Script on Twitter and yeah Kenya Script on Twitter Kenya Script on Facebook as well and how about your personal handle if someone just wants to add you or just talk to you directly okay you can find me on Twitter at Jamali Asava Jamali Asava and on Facebook as Emily Asava Emily Asava awesome how about you I wasn't kidding when I said traffic is me so on Twitter on Twitter I'm millred at church at R-O-F-F-E-K-E so you'll find a lot of stuff about film, about rock but then also personal stuff that I'm interested in and on Facebook I'm millred at church and then on Instagram I'm not very active on Instagram but if you just google just google R-O-F-F-E-K-E and you'll see all the various things I'm doing online and if you want to submit just google and you'll find a way to submit if those who are looking for their 4 million Rafiki it's actually the Kenya Rock and Roll Film Festival Rock and Roll Film Festival Kenya Rock and Roll Film Festival Kenya so if you can't spell Rafiki just go write that and they'll be right there down there right so just go check them out know what they are all about and we'll be talking to them some more after the launch of the new movie right that went and how many people signed up I'm looking to sign up by the way I'll be signing up very soon alright so it's time for play to trash it are you ready who are we featuring today today we are featuring some very very popular bands bands that people love and idolize ok ok he's winning anyway so for the first band it's Ak Enemy that's the song and then the second one is Blackwell Bride nice and pants ok I see and the third one is Linkin Park giving it up so I want to see the votes I don't know I cannot even I love all these songs I really want to see the votes he's not fair I know I know what I'm going to vote right now I'm going to vote right now so who's the winner? I love all of them I love and pee so much but Ak Enemy is just something about this chick the way she's 1000 girls people think it's a man and she's just a woman and then you vote deeper and you see her in interviews and it's actually a chick but then she's so heavy and she's so dark so I'm confused this is a tough one LP I knew it I'm all into gothic music also I think I'll go with Linkin Park cause I knew them Linkin Park but Ak Enemy any day we're ready just do a justice and we'll be right back we have more show for you guys stay right here