 All right, you're left. Go ahead. Hey friends, this is behind the scenes of Dan and Stephanie Burke with Divine Intimacy Radio. We're going to just jump in right away with Monsignor Rosetti, the author of Diary of an American Actress System, Mark Zekko. This is Dan and Stephanie Burke. Welcome to Divine Intimacy Radio, your radio haven for us. Your Hermitage of the Heart. Your Monastery of the Mind. We look to hearts and minds of heaven and draw upon the wisdom of the church to help us to be free and to be holy. Right? Right. That's the goal. Union with the Lord. That is free and holy. Right. And sometimes demons get in the way of that. Yeah. Their goal is to destroy us and to hinder us and to cause us to stumble and fall. But Jesus is Lord. Jesus is Lord. We lean in and we resist the enemy and he will flee. We draw near to the Lord and he will draw near to us. He loves us so. Yeah. There's a band that our producer loves. Well, it used to anyway. I don't know if his holiness has got them worked out. Demon Slayer. Is that the right? Demon Hunter. Oh, Demon Hunter. Yeah. Demon Slayer is bad. Demon Hunter is Christian. Well, anyways, we have a demon hunter as a guest. Why don't you introduce Monsignor Rosetti? He might chastise me for being too flippant about all this. Okay. So our guest today is Monsignor Stephen Rosetti. He has been an exorcist for the Archdiocese of Washington for over 12 years. He is a priest of the diocese of Syracuse and is also the president and founder of the remarkable St. Michael's Center for Spiritual Renewal. He is a licensed psychologist and has spent 30 years working in psychological treatment and the spiritual renewal of priests and religious. He assists in the training of exorcists and lay team members. Monsignor Rosetti has led hundreds of exorcism and deliverance sessions and you can find his work at the St. Michael's Center for Spiritual Renewal at catholicexorcism.org. There's also an app by that name and find his book, Diary of an American Exorcist, Demon's Possession and the Modern Day Battle Against Evil at SophiaInstitute.com and also through the shop at spiritualdirection.com as well as a series of podcasts that we did with him on that remarkable book and on scripture warfare. So we're so happy to have him back. Welcome back, Monsignor. Thank you, Stephanie and Dan, great to be with you. So is M.I.V. in a little goofy calling you a demon hunter? Well, yes, it's okay. We don't actually hunt them out, people come with them. That's right. They're not hard to find, is that the issue there? Well, you know, if you saw all the demons and the sky would be black. You know, it's interesting about that. You said in one of our interviews something that I thought, but you had the credibility and I thought, okay, I'm not saying. You know, part of my own study of this realm has been through the Saint Teresa of Abilus. I wrote Devil in the Castle, which is a reflection on her wisdom at each stage of spiritual growth. Part of the reason I wrote the book was I wondered if I'm crazy, you know, or if they really are as prevalent as I think or as I sense, right? And you just said something interesting with Padre Pio, but in a previous show you said, I think you said that you thought possession was actually more common than is regularly held to be true. Is that, did I? I think so. And the lesser form, the oppression or obsession. I think Father Chad, for example, said that he thought that I think about 25% or so of people are probably demonically obsessed, you know, with the demons affecting your brain. I think it's more common than people realize. I don't want to see demons on every rock, but there's a lot more of it going on. And when you become more sensitive and attuned to the preternatural world, you begin to be more aware of it. But I would add this, that remember that most theologians will say that one third of the angels fell and became demons. Well, that means that two thirds remained as angels. And so we had two good angels for every bad demon. You know, I was reading, Father Ripper has got a new book out called Dominion. I was reading his fascinating chart of the strata of demons, you know, their rank or whatever. And what really struck me in that is I always thought as Archangel Michael is like one of the upper ranks. And he's actually not. And what fascinated me about that was he still is the one who God used to kick their little high knees the bad days out of heaven, right? Right. Well, as Chad says in his book, by the way, if Father Chad says that, you know, one good angel has a relation as power over the demons because it's the power of God and Christ in the Holy Angels. So your guardian angel has quite a bit of punch there when it comes to protecting you from evil. Oh, that's great. That's beautiful. That's beautiful. Okay, so should we start with the questions? Okay. How does dabbling in the occult affect future generations and does fighting against it also impact future generations? Well, I mean, the basic question is, can we affect other generations by our good and evil? Yes, you know, again, it doesn't mean that our generations after us are culpable for it, but it means it can affect them up for sure. And one of the worst things you can do is do some sort of dabbling the occult because spirits of divination, we call them, whether you're doing magic or witchcraft or Santeria, or it's curandettos or whatever, that voodoo, whatever, that this invites a pretty nasty set of demons in and they're hard to get rid of. This is Dan, Dan and Stephanie Burke with Divine Intimacy Radio. We're talking with Monsignor Rosetti, the author of Diary of an American Exorcist. You can find it at ScripturalDirection.com and Monsignor is the founder and president of St. Michael's Center in Washington, D.C. And he's an expert on this and I'll just say this to everyone listening too. We've had the real pleasure of interacting with Monsignor and the other folks at the center and that place has our full endorsement, whatever that's worth. We're not experts in this realm, but I think it's important for the folks who follow us and listen to us to know if you want a sound resource, you want something that's true to the Magisterium, that's wholly just and good, fully right and good, we unequivocally recommend St. Michael's Center. Well, it's very kind of you and to make this the mutual admiration society, we very much appreciate the Burke's and all your wonderful ministry. And so one of the reasons why I'm happy to do this show is because I want to support your important work. Thank you. I really appreciate that. That means the world to me, to us. That endorsement actually is more important than ours. Okay, so let's move on and this is a huge question because this seems to be popping up everywhere. This question is, who exactly are the Freemasons? Why do so many people belong to this group? Is their goal one world order? Do they have satanic ties or worship? And I will add, what is the effect of having, what are the common effects of having Freemasonry in your family line that can help you to lead to that discovery so that you can get it eradicated? Well, Freemasonry and related organizations, a whole bunch of them. One for some for women, some for men are basically fraternal organizations. They began out of the guild of stone masons around the 13th century. But the church has been as has condemned belonging to it and the condemnation is still enforced that Freemasonry was and had an antipathy towards the church. While some people see it just as sort of a social organization, when you actually go into the deeper understanding of what's involved in this secret society, it has very much a cultic background to it. And the deeper you go into these higher levels of Masonry, the more sort of cultic and strange it gets. And what we found in our ministry is that when I began this ministry, I really knew nothing about it. But what we find with people belonging to Freemasonry and their generations after them, you know, there's a real cursing involved with it. I don't even says that, you know, if you violate your this order, then you are cursed, whatever, whatever. I mean, so I guess the good news is, is that involvement in Freemasonry has plummeted, you know, in the United States for sure. But there's still people suffering effects of it. And we were praying, just yesterday, we were praying over somebody and we had them go through the renunciation. If you think, if you've been involved in Freemasonry or someone in your past generations, there's a prayer on the app, the Catholic exorcism app, to renounce that and to reject these curses. And the person had a difficulty praying it. They just are choking and can't say it. And you can, there's a whole bunch of pushback from it. And you can see that person's Freemasonry background was having an effect on them. And then when we see people get liberated from it, be surprised how some of these evil things attacking them really ceased. Now, they pledge, in the ritual, they pledge five generations, right? How efficacious is that pledge? I mean, is it just 100% of the time five generations are affected or is it just? Well, these sorts of things are hard to measure, you know, measuring spiritual things. But I would just simply say that if someone sees some Freemasonry or Related Organization or Eastern Star, whatever, or they see these sort of ongoing, strange diseases, predictions, health problems, whatever bad behaviors down to the generations, continuing evil patterns, and a suspicion of some sort of Masonic background. Say the prayer, say it, you know, three or four times out loud. The long prayer, but it's worth it. Right, right. It takes 45 minutes. And you have to kind of prepare yourself that what you're about to read it and renounce is pretty difficult to stomach, but it's very important. One more question before we go to a break, can we pray spiritual warfare prayer for entire countries? And what are the best ways to do this? Sure. Interesting. You know, there are angels, we believe, over countries and nations, special powerful angels, you know, the middle ranks of angels, very strong angels to protect nations. And so there is spiritual warfare. And then there are demons on the attacking whole countries. For example, one senior exorcist told me once, and I believe he thought that Nazi Germany was actually possessed, certainly the hierarchy of the Nazi organization, he thought they all were possessed. And matter of fact, the Pope at the time, I thought Hitler was possessed and in the Vatican said the prayers of exorcism several times over Hitler from a distance. Obviously more effective because Hitler didn't want to be liberated. But sure, there is a spiritual warfare going on and on national and international levels. Okay, so I think we need to take a break. So when we'll get back, we'll go to the next questions and join on senior resetting our guests. So we'll go to 13, 13, 15 seconds, maybe at the max. What I'd like to do on this one is shift to Das and Priest and there, or just Priest in general, who are not designated exorcists. We get a lot of questions from Priest about this. And I want to highlight one senior special training that you provided. Do you think I should say the password for Priest over the... No, no, don't do that. No, well, we'll have them contact the center. They can ask them. Yeah, I think that's better. There's a lot of, we have a pretty big group who listens to all of this and you never know what you're going to get. You're going to get people downloading stuff. That's usually the question. Okay, let's go. One thing for those who listen to us live, make sure you sign up for the Abel Summit. It's July 15th through the 17th spiritual warfare and if you're enjoying Monsignor now, you'll get to hear him in person and watch the DC. So let's go back in. This is Dana Stephanie Burke. Welcome back to Divine Intimacy Radio. We're glad to have you back. We're going to start with Monsignor Rosetti. So we're going to go on to our next question. We get a lot of these questions because we deal so much with diocesan priests and religious and such. So this is the question. What is the authority of a diocesan priest with respect to his faculties to perform deliverance ministry? Does he have to have permission of the bishop, even if the limits work is not at the level of needing an exorcism or not on that level? Well, obviously to perform a solemn exorcism where someone's fully possessed, the priest needs faculties from the bishop and we all know that. But most of the people who come for deliverance don't actually are not fully possessed. So yes, any priest has the power and authority to cast out demons. In fact, does so all the time whether he knows it or not. We call these minor exorcisms. For example, baptism has a minor exorcism in it. The RCA right has these scrutiny's to cast out demons. The confessional powerful minor exorcisms of casting out demons. But what the problem today is they're not trained. And so people come to them and say, you know, Father, I've got this demonic issue. And they say, well, you're crazy or I don't do that or I don't know what to do. So here's what we did. We put together 10 short videos, 10 30 minute videos on basically everything you need to know as a priest to do deliverance ministry. So it's on our website. It's password protected. So contact us will give the priest or deacons the password and you can go through the training. Very simple. And you'll feel more confident about how to do this ministry. Wonderful. What a great resource. And we're the where the church collective has has failed to properly equip our priests. It's just so important. And you know, I don't I want to hope that none of it is nefarious, but it certainly is a distraction to get busy with other things that are perhaps less important and focus on these things that a priest needs to know. Well, people come to priests all the time these days more is having more and more say father need help with with I got this demonic presence and it's time for our priests to be trained in this. Yes, you know, authority is a big, big issue for me. I became Catholic because I believed that I need you once a year in every priest that I connect with. I need the your ordination and your prayers, your ring about the Eucharist confession. So and then I stepping I've been involved. We're asked to be involved with exercise industry. We didn't seek it out. And really that lessons drill home in just a huge way in our preparation for participation, how important authority is. And I just want to be super clear about this. And I know you'll do it in the videos, but I think it's important also for priests who are listening. Are you saying without because everything should be done with under the authority of the Bishop. I generally agree that that's true, but inherent in just their ordination. They have authority. Is that true? Yes. Right. The priest acts in persona Christi and persona Claesie to the person, the person, the church. So when the priest gives a blessing, for example, it's the church blessing. Right. So it's not me. It's the church. When I celebrate the Eucharist, it's Jesus who is affecting the Eucharist. So yeah, the priest by his nature of his ordination has that authority. Related to that, there's something called a chapter three, which is a place, right? And correct my terminology. Right. Is that also something that these are just questions we constantly get. So is that also something? Well, there are some disagreement about that. The church hasn't been clear yet. I think it will be. The question comes is, can any priest use the action in the in the new right of actresses and the back of the book. There's a, the Leo, basically it's a version of the Leo 13 prayers for exercising a place. Can any priest use it? Now I personally believe they can, but there's some would say no. We, we saw that problem in our diocese and we simply went to the vicar general and said, we want the diocese to give every priest in this diocese authority to use the Leo 13 prayers. He said, fine. So a bunch of dioceses are doing that now. Just saying, okay, to clear up that question, we're giving every priest authority to use the Leo 13 prayers. What's great about that is it for a priest who's properly oriented to authority is concerned about being under the authority of Bishop. And that's that, that I agree. That's the best way to do it. And then you, we just met with a priest recently. I will say what diocese that asked about deliverance ministry and his diocese, they don't have an exorcist, but the archbishop gave them freedom to be involved in deliverance ministry. But and we're going to point them to St. Michael's. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. Also on our app, Catholic exorcism, there is a whole bunch of deliverance prayers for priests in general. There's a section for exorcists and then a section for priests in general and the lady too. And under, there are a bunch of deliverance prayers any priest can use if he doesn't feel comfortable using Leo 13 prayers. So there's a whole bunch of fine deliverance prayers for priests there. Wonderful. Wonderful. So this next question is a phenomenal, interesting question. And I, you know, I'm sure everybody's ears are going to perk up with this question. So scripture seems to indicate from the Garden of Eden in St. Paul, that women are more susceptible to deception. Why is this true? Well, I don't know if that's true. I mean, I, some of our best prayer warriors are women. Frankly, I find more spiritual senses are women and gifted and men, frankly, some we meant to sometimes can be spiritual slugs, as I say, but we do have some fine spiritual senses we're meant to. So I'm a little bit too reticent to, to, to endorse such a statement. I would simply say that the sin in the Garden of Eden was a joint thing that Adam and Eve did, you know, so. He certainly left her uncovered. Well, and I, and I wonder if you can look, look at it through the, through the, you know, that through what's conversely true is that women tend to be more spiritual. They're, they're more receptive in general to the movements of the Holy Spirit and the call of the Lord is what I find they seem to convert first. The wives convert first. Maybe it's the gift of child birthing and, you know, the, the receptivity that we're naturally given. So I think it's, you know, I, as a being the only woman in the room in this conversation, I can see both sides of the conversation, right? So that we are, that we are uniquely receptive to the movements of the spirit, the Lord, the good spirits and that we can, that we can go very deep in that area, which leads to the comment of many of the spiritual sensitives or women, the majority of them are versus, you know, if we're not grounded in the faith, if we're not grounded in the Lord, it can leave us open to being deceived by the enemy, you know. And so we have to stay protected, which is true of all of us, but I think in particular, we don't have spiritual covering and protection from our spouses or our families or whatever. Does that ring true to you, Father? Sounds good. I think that the spiritual sensitivity is more of a contemplative gift. And so the question is, men tend to, you know, working with priests for 30 years, they tend to be rational and intellectual, which is a good thing, but sometimes they get stuck in their brains, you know. And so developing those deeper, intuitive, contemplative gifts is something that men have to work a little bit harder at, typically. Not always, but many. Fascinating. I'm going to go back to, because there's so many questions out there and it's getting more and more common. Back to what you're providing for priests. Would you mind giving us a little outline of the coursework you provide for priests on the St. Michael's Center website? Well, it's super nuts. I mean, we talk about the basic theological and geology. You know, first of all, you have to know what angels are and what demons are. And because even there, there's a lot of misconceptions. I mean, somebody recently, not a priest, but a layperson recently said to me, he thought that God created the demons as evil. I said, no, no, no, no. And that also that Satan somehow is an incredibly powerful being that challenges Jesus. No, compared to Jesus, Satan is dust. So a lot of sort of basic notions about angels and demons. And then the question of, you know, how to go about a deliverance session, discernment. You know, how do you know someone is possessed or oppressed or obsessed? And what is the process of liberation? What kind of prayers would you use? What do we do about curses? What do we do about occult stuff? There's all sorts of things to learn in a deliverance training. You know, it's interesting. You said something earlier related to, you said it's not defeated, defined. But what's fascinating to me is the more I get to spend time with you or Father Luke Center or other exorcists, there is a growing body of knowledge that you all are recovering that really was lost. Is that accurate? Yes. And what's interesting, by the way, I mean, obviously, actresses will disagree on some things, but surprisingly, how much we agree on. You know, when I read Father Chad's new book, I go through that and I say, oh, yeah, yeah, sure. And so when you actually actually just get together and share their experience, it's very interesting how common they are around the world. And so it affirms that our experience that we're really touching the truth. And that answer you gave was related to the last show on generational spirits. Is it generally agreed among actresses that generational spirits is a real thing? The ones that I know, yes. I'm sure there are some who don't. But there's a difference between the guy who has an occasional exorcism versus the priest who really rolls his sleeves up and they're doing a lot of them. When you do a lot of them, you start to tap into some of this wisdom and knowledge that you're talking about. Okay. So one more question I think that is probably very common as well. And we'll finish up with this. What is the role of the laity in the Liberance Ministry? What is acceptable, safe? What can we do in helping our brothers and sisters get free? There's a lot the laity can do. We actresses don't work as solo people anymore. We work in a team and we have some powerful people assisting us and working with us. And they can do a lot of stuff with their spiritual directors, their prayer warriors, their discerners, their spiritual sensitives, their psychologists, their nurses, all sorts of things. So they can assist us in this work. Also deliverance teams. I mean, people need to be trained. But those who, there are deliverance teams of laity which can pray over people. We encourage them to have some guidance by the local priests who are with the church. And actually most cases of demonic involvement can be cleared up through the intercession of the laity for baptized Christians and operating under the aegis of the church. That's great to hear. So here we will wrap up our time together. So until next time, may the God of peace make you perfect in holiness, make you preserved, you hold an entire spirit, soul and body. You're approachable to the company of our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you, my senior. I think we've got you out on time.