 Hey, Aston, Aston, go to that corner. So, it's in at the I-24 News headquarters in Tel Aviv. Welcome to our viewers around the world. We begin with breaking news. America has made good on its promise to respond. B-1 bombers bombed at least seven locations of Iraq-backed militias. More than 125 precision munitions were dropped, at least 85 targets in both Syria and Western Iraq. As for the war in Gaza, there is a report in the Wall Street Journal that there is internal strife within Hamas about accepting a cease-fire deal. Yahya Sinwar is said to want a six-week halt so that they can regroup. While Polar Bureau head Ismail Haniyeh is pushing for a permanent cease-fire with international guarantees and a plan for rebuilding the Gaza Strip. This comes as Hamas and Islamic jihad issued a joint statement saying that any hostage deal must include complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza in a permanent cease-fire. Meantime, Algeria has pushed a UN resolution to call for an immediate cease-fire. The Americans say this resolution could put sensitive negotiations in jeopardy. The United States could veto any UN resolution. Now, going back to the United States, President Joe Biden says the action taken against Iranian-backed militias is just the beginning. Quoting now, it will continue at times and places of our choosing. Here's Rear Admiral John Kirby. We do not seek a conflict with Iran. These targets are chosen, as we said, to degrade and disrupt the capabilities of the IRGC and the groups that they sponsor and support. As the general said, we believe that these targets fell into exactly that criteria. And, you know, the goal here is to get these attacks to stop. We are not looking for a war with Iran. We have live team coverage of every angle of the story. Let's start first with I-24 news correspondent Jonathan Rega. He has the very latest. He's in the southern part of Israel right now. Jonathan, B-1 Bombers, 85 targets. This was not just a slap. No, it was not just a slap, just as you mentioned, President Biden making good on his promise and targeting many, many, I'm not going to call it Iranian targets, but Iranian proxy targets, especially in Syria and in Iraq. This has happened. There's no Israeli comment, of course, on paper at least. This is not an Israeli issue. And plus it happened on Friday night on the Jewish Sabbath, so no Israeli comment. But I'm quite sure that Israeli officials are happy, perhaps as opposed to America, which did not want to get involved in this war, but eventually did. We're seeing American warships in the Gulf of Aden. We're now seeing American bombers in Syria and in Iraq. And these are all targets that are threatening Israel. It was only yesterday when, again, a missile was fired from Yemen towards Eilat. It was only earlier this week when a missile was fired from Iraq towards the port of Haifa, I believe, that they were all intercepted away before they reached their target. But these are targets that are threatening Israel, and Israel, which has preoccupied itself with the war in Gaza, which is right behind me, and the tensions on the Lebanese border, is very happy to see some other power, of course, be it the United States, dealing with those targets, which are threatening Israel. Great. Jonathan Regev giving us the nuts and bolts as to what happened with the attack yesterday by the Americans. Thanks so much, Jonathan. We are now just getting word in Iran's president, Ibrahim Reis. He has responded. Listen to what he just said a moment ago. Before, whenever the Americans wanted to talk to Iran, like any other country, they said that the military option is on the table. Now, you do not hear these words anymore. They even say we have no intention of any conflict with Iran. This is the power of our religious people who are always present, which are considered so important for our country. Our armed forces are powerful and are always present. We have said many times we will not initiate any war, but if anyone wants to bully us, Iran will respond firmly. Mr. Diger, Joe. Let's continue our live coverage right now. Dr. Mayor Jeven Afar is joining us. He's an Iran lecturer at Breitman University. Thanks so much for joining us this morning. Dr. Mayor, what is your response, initial response to the U.S. attack on Western Iraq and Syria on these targets, 85 targets plus? Well, we have to wait and see first and foremost what the extent of the damage is. Because the attack certainly was not a surprise, and I think the Iranians would have moved most of their military hardware away from at least some of those sites. So we really have to wait and see. I think that the main content, the main focus of the attack, the main goal was just to send a message to Iran that we are no longer sitting and watching Iran attack our forces in Iraq and Syria. It was also, I think, the Americans trying to send a message to the Chinese and to the Russians who have been underestimating American firepower. And I think this was also, you could say, a live military exercise by the U.S. Air Force to send a strategic message to its other allies. Is this going to end Iranian attacks against U.S. forces? I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure, to be honest with you. Because the Iranian regime, its core interest is its own territory and its own territory was not attacked. You can always find and recruit these Iraqi and Syrian militias. The Iraq, I mean, these militias, they bring them from Afghanistan. They bring them the Shia militia, Shia from Pakistan and the Shia in Iraq. Many of them are unemployed. They can rebuild these things. The Iranian drone factories that make these drones and the missile factories that make the missiles that these proxies fired Israel and the United States are still churning out the material. They can still send it. I think Mr. Biden is, I mean, I don't want to give it too long an answer. But I think Mr. Biden is doing the best he can within the limits. Right, let's talk about that, if we can. Dr. Dravon Afar, let me read you something. This is coming from US Senator Roger Wicker. He is the Republican from Mississippi. He is the leading Republican on the Armed Services Committee. Granted, it's the opposition, if you will, of American politics. And he says, quote, now, instead of giving the Ayatollah the bloody nose that he deserves, we continue to give him a slap on the wrist. The Biden administration spent nearly a week foolishly telegraphing US intentions to our adversaries, giving them time to relocate and hide. So is this basically a slap on the wrist or is it a bloody nose? Look, I think it's more of a strategic messaging. This is more of a messaging within the best that Mr. Biden can do. Are we in Israel disappointed? Yes, we are because according to foreign news reports, during the Naftali Bennett administration, we even attacked the UAV base in Iran. We attacked, according to that New York Times report, we destroyed at least 100, if not 200, Iranian UAVs in response to an attempted and UAV attack from drone attack from Iran, which was foiled over the skies of Jordan. So we in Israel, from our point of view, we are, yes, we're saying it's not enough. But I have to be honest with you. I think we cannot just look at this war within the context of the US-Iran war or US-Iran conflict. The United States simultaneously involved in a huge military alignment against the huge military alignment by the Russians and the Chinese and the Iranians and the North Koreans. The United States knows the Europeans do not have enough ammunition to face Russia. The United States knows that the Chinese actually have more ships than the United States, although they may not be as sophisticated. But they have more ships. The peak number of ships the United States was in 1987. The American Army cannot find enough American soldiers to join it. It has a shortage of manpower. The Royal Navy, on whom the Americans rely to defend against the Houthis and possibly against the Russians, put out of commission, I think one or even two warships. They don't have enough sailors. So when we look at this war against Iran, we have to put it into context of the global war that the United States is involved in and the resource shortages that they have, which is why President Biden, he did what he did. Yeah, but Dr. Javala Farr, if I can, then what you're basically saying is that the Western world is outnumbered. Correct. Correct. So there's not winning the Western world can't win? No, we have to build more weapons. It's not a question of we can't win more. I was hoping, for example, that Israel, they were hoping, especially European countries, that Israel would continue to our weapons build up because we have a military infrastructure. Their military infrastructure was reduced after the Cold War. But we kept ours. We have the factories. But this war in Gaza has taken out quite a big part of what we intended to export to the European countries so that they can be ready against Russia and China. But now we're going to use it for our own. We need this whole new recalculation of how things are going to be done in this region and in the world because of the shortages that we face. But this does not mean that sooner or later, after the current Gaza war, somebody may start attacking Iran again. This does not mean that. But when it comes to saying, are we ready for a full-on war with Iran, we have to take into consideration the other wars that the United States is involved in, that the weakness in the European arsenal, the weakness in the European armies, they want to save their resources for that. So then how does we, I'm saying we, meaning Israel and the United States, prepare for what possibly could be a response from Iran? First and foremost, it's possible that they could attack you. They're probably going to attack US bases in Iraq, Syria. I mean, is there a chance they might attack US bases in Saudi Arabia and UAE or Bahrain? Chances are there. I would say Saudi Arabia and UAE, the chances are not very high. But in Bahrain, it's possible that they could attack it there. Can I just have one more point? Please. Strategically speaking, let's talk strategic, not tactic, strategically. If you want to address this Iranian issue, this Iranian threat, which is a very serious threat, us in Israel, Prime Minister Netanyahu, should join President Biden in reforming the PLO and finding a solution for Gaza. Of course, after we've got the hostages back without a question. But once we've done that, we find a solution for Gaza with the reformed PLO, then we will be able to focus on Iran. Because President Biden wants us to focus on Iran. He doesn't want Gaza to become a distraction. It's a distraction now. And until such times that Prime Minister Netanyahu decides to accept the PLO, we're not going to have a strategic solution for Gaza, which means we will not be able to return to focus on Iran. President Biden wants to find a solution for Gaza so that we can join, we will be able to join the Saudis and everybody else in the Middle East to focus on Iran. Now, I understand that, but that's strategic. That seems like a long-term fix of a problem that's changing by the hour. I mean, it seems as though everything is happening, the news cycle, not even the news cycle, the military cycle is happening so quick that sounds like a great idea to do for a long horizon. Is that fast enough for what's happening around the world? You know, I would love to be able to tell you that there should be a stronger response and that the Iranian regime should be punished even more severely. But when you read about constantly about the United States is stretched. Ladies and gentlemen, I-24 viewers, the United States is severely stretched. The European armies are stretched. They are playing catch up all these years. You know, just, you know how Hamas fooled us all these years by saying, yeah, we just want to focus on the Gaza economy. So we looked the other way. We know that in Israel. So the Europeans were fooled by the Russians all these years and the Chinese fooled the United States by saying, oh, we just want to focus on our economy. But meanwhile, they were building a massive weapons arsenal. But we in the West thought that, no, they don't want more. We were fooled. They don't want more. They just want to build an economy. So we put our arms production at a lower pace. We decreased it while they increased it. So we are facing a gap. And we have to take that gap into consideration when we talk about, you know, whether we want a more severe response against Iran or not. And I think this gap played a big part in President Biden's calculation. And of course, his reelection without doubt. Dr. Meir Jeben Afar, Iranian lecturer for Reikman University. Thanks again for joining us this morning with analysis. Very important insight. Thank you again. Thank you. We're going to turn to another top story that we've been talking about at an internal dispute between the leadership of Hamas over a ceasefire deal. I'm joined in studio now by Dr. Jacques Nairie, the former deputy head of assessment for Israeli military intelligence. He was also the former foreign policy advisor for Prime Minister Yusuf Krabini. Thank you again for joining us. Well, we'll talk from a smaller micro standpoint in a moment. Dr. Jeben Afar's assessment of where we are in the world doesn't sound very optimistic. Well, even though I think that he's overreacting. But I mean, I always remember that when the United States decided to go to war in the Second World War, it took three days to put a liberty ship in the sea. So when the United States will decide that what it has as ammunition is not enough, then I don't think that it's a problem for the United States to begin producing and overproducing. And this is not an item, not at all. The problem is the resolve. America has tried since the beginning of the war to avoid the escalation of the war, to turn into a regional war. And in fact, I mean, it has... But is it already a regional war? It's already a regional war. It hasn't succeeded. The United States is drawn, like in a whirlpool, in the East, Syria and Iraq. It's been under attack for almost four months. And now it's the reaction. Maybe too late, but it should have reacted earlier. And then the United States is busy also with Yemen. I mean, the United States has taken upon itself the responsibility of assuring the waterway, the open waterway, international waterway. So on the one hand, you have Syria and Iraq. On the other hand, you have the Houthis and the ocean, the Indian Ocean. And then you have, I mean, definitely... But you bring up a good point, it's too stretched, it's stretched too much. Well, you're talking about the superpower, really. I mean, look at what happened in the snatch. I mean, the B-1 bombers come from the United States. The same could have come from the UK, from Cyprus and other places. I mean, let us not minimize the power of the United States. It is still a part of the problem is that the United States has no intention right now to confront Iran directly. And this is the real problem. As long as you don't deal with the bases of the beast, then you have to treat with the Houthis. Well, because the Americans, and then I'm sure that Dr. Javan Afar would have mentioned of it, too, is that the Americans are afraid of, okay, you deal with Iran, you're dealing with China, you're dealing with Russia as well. And that's what we know. Yeah, but I mean, he just overreacted concerning the one who was, I mean, with no ammunition and with no weapons was Russia. They signed an agreement with Iran in order to produce in Russia the drones, the Iranian drones. Can you imagine that Russia had no drones at all, no industry, and it was compelled for more than six months, they had nothing. So they had to import from Iran drones and missiles and this is what, this is the world. I mean, it's not only the United States. The Russians were also living in a dream. Let's talk about Hamas and let's talk about this fight, internal fight. Maybe it's a little bickering that's occurring and somehow it made it to the Wall Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Yahya Sinwar wants a six-week ceasefire, but the others outside of Gaza want a longer permanent ceasefire. What should we make of this internal squabbling? Is it much to be made about nothing? It's much out of about nothing because as your correspondent said earlier, there was a declaration of the leadership, the Palestinian leadership, all the factions that convened in Cairo saying that unless there's a total ceasefire, cessation of hostilities and withdrawal of Israeli troops, then nothing will be achieved. So we are back to square one and it seems that Yahya Sinwar, he's the man in the field, has imposed his will. So the, I mean, Hanayah... Talk to the viewers, I'm sorry to interrupt, but talk to the viewers as to, who may not understand who the players are and what power they have. Well, you have the Hamas leadership that lives outside Gaza, I mean, mainly in Qatar and Turkey and some of them maybe in Lebanon and you have also other Palestinian factions who are in Lebanon and Syria and Iraq and in Turkey, whereas at Sinwar, the head of Hamas, the head of the snake, as we call it, is in Gaza. He's the military commander. He is the de facto military commander of what's happening and he's the one, the strategist, the one who is directing the whole operations against it together with associate Mohamedev. So these two are the ones that are calling the shots. I mean, all those who are outside, I mean, we see there lots of criticism concerning the restaurants that Hanayah is going to and the way the lavish life he has in Qatar and so on. So the one that imposes the will and says what will happen is Sinwar. Really, so you don't think he gets outvoted? He gets outvoted in a room where he says, listen, we decide, it's two against one. I'm sorry, you're in the field, but we decide. They can decide whatever they want. As long as the field doesn't comply with the decisions that are taken abroad, there's nothing of importance. But there's a chance that Sinwar will say, listen, you want a permanency's fire. It's not going to happen. The Israelis are not going to have a permanency's fire. Well, you know, we're talking with, we're dealing with a psychopath. This is very difficult. I mean, the psychologist has to deal with this man and say, I mean, what sort of behavior here? Right now, he has decided that he will be a martyr. He will fight to the last maybe of his hostages because the hostages are, in fact, his human shield. So why should he, at this moment, take this human shield from his protection and give it back to Israel? Dr. Jacques Nairie, the former deputy head of assessment for Israeli military intelligence, the former foreign policy advisor from Prime Minister Yusuf, we're being always a pleasure to have you in this morning. Thanks again. You know, until October the 7th, women fighters from the K9-Oketz unit, a unit which operates with specially trained dogs, were mainly engaged in locating missing persons and weapons in the West Bank. And since the beginning of the war, 17 weeks ago today, and after undergoing some special training, they've been working alongside their dogs in the heart of the Gaza Strip, proving that every day, why women are an integral part of defending Israel. We have more in this report. Good dog, great, search. For those who look from the side, it might be difficult to recognize the uniqueness of the team training here in Zakeem Bayes. But the expression beneath the face mask shows that this is a unique team of female fighters. For four months now, they have been doing everything possible so that the barking they hear in the training, they will hear in Gaza as well, after their dogs managed to locate explosives or even a live fighter. The Megan Squad consists of K-9 Okaz unit fighters who operate continuously on two levels, locating missing persons among runes of buildings and finding weapons in the territories. But after October 7th, they underwent special training together with their dogs for fighting inside Gaza. We train at destruction sites, which is something we would not do before. Before October 7th, we focused on closed spaces. The explosions in Gaza are something they're not used to hearing, so they're trained to work under pressure, under intense noise. How do you train for such a thing? We have machines that simulate explosions. We practice at the ranges where the dogs are trained to be under control, with shooting in the background. And how is Tobi? Tobi is like a machine. He knows the job. I trust him with my eyes closed. We worked hard for it. There were moments when he was not easy with the noise of the explosions, so we're trained mainly on that. Like the female fighters themselves, Tobi also needed preparation before entering the battlefield. Inside Gaza, the dogs are equipped with earplugs and still it is unlike any activity they have done before. How do you feel about fighting inside Gaza? Is it hard? I was actually really looking forward to it. When you fight with the dog, you ask yourself how things will go. There are so many concerns. You have to take care of his food, his health. That's a lot on your mind. They are teamed up with the fighting forces in the field and assist in finding Hamas weapons and also in locating casualties and the missing. For example, in the disaster last week in which buildings in the center of the Gaza Strip collapsed on fighters. When you get to a place like this and there are lots of forces, noise, explosions, you send a dog and in the end it's just you and him. There's silence and you listen to him and as soon as the barking comes, it's an incredible feeling. You're getting crazy. No, that's a hug. Oh, that's a hug. Okay, so you're cute. On October 7th, the fighters found themselves searching for signs that would provide the families of the missing with answers. In one of the activities with luck, he found an object which closed the circle for the family. As soon as I discovered it, it was a feeling of pride and also an understanding of the general situation and its values. Now they are probably on their next mission and while fighting on the battlefield in the Israeli High Court, there are still petitions demanding the IDF allows women on the frontline. It was already said in this war, but we should say it again. This war proved how much female fighters are an integral part in the defense of the country. We are ready for anything, for any task, even if it takes time. That's what we're here for. Is there a sense of pride in being a female fighter? Definitely. It's amazing to see how people are more and more aware that a woman fighter, especially with a dog, is something that is necessarily needed in the field. We're in a situation where the forces specifically require the girls of Okit's unit and their abilities because they know the advantages that we bring. That's great, that's great. You should know, this is 17 weeks since the war began. 17 weeks ago today, day 120. This is, after the War of Independence in 1948, the longest war Israel has fought. So the recap in you now on our top story that just broke moments ago, America has made good on its promise to respond to attacks by Iranian-backed militias. B-1 bombers bombed at least seven locations of those militias. More than 125 precision munitions were dropped, at least 85 targets in both Syria and Western Iraq. Now, as for the war itself here in Israel, there is a report in the Wall Street Journal that there is some sort of internal strife between Hamas leadership about accepting a ceasefire deal with Yahya Sinwar, said to want a six-week halt. But the rest, asking for a permanent halt and international guarantees that Gaza would get rebuilt. Now, this comes as Hamas and Islamic jihad issued a joint statement saying that any deal would have to have an Israeli permanent ceasefire. You should also know that Algeria has pushed a UN resolution to call for immediate ceasefire and the Americans say that this resolution is going to put any negotiations in jeopardy and you should know also that the United States can always veto a UN resolution as a member of the Security Council, as a big five this Security Council. Going back to the United States, President Joe Biden says that the action taken against those militias is just the beginning. 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News 24, only on I-24 News. Welcome to our viewers around the world. We begin with breaking news. America has made good on its promise to respond. B-1 bombers bombed at least seven locations of Iraq-backed militias. More than 125 precision munitions were dropped, at least 85 targets in both Syria and western Iraq. As for the war in Gaza, there is a report in the Wall Street Journal that there is internal strife within Hamas about accepting a cease-fire deal. Yahya Sinwar is said to want a six-week halt in every group, while Pola Bureau head Ismail Haniyeh is pushing for a permanent cease-fire with international guarantees and a plan for rebuilding the Gaza Strip. This comes as Hamas and Islamic jihad issued a joint statement saying that any hostage deal must include complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza in a permanent cease-fire. Meantime, Algeria has pushed a UN resolution to call for an immediate cease-fire. The Americans say this resolution could put sensitive negotiations between the United States and the United States. The United States could veto any UN resolution. Now, going back to the United States, President Joe Biden says the action taken against Iranian-backed militias is just the beginning, quoting now, it will continue at times and places of our choosing. Here's Rear Admiral John Kirby. We do not seek a conflict with Iran. These targets were chosen, as we said, to degrade and disrupt the capabilities of the IRGC and the groups that they sponsor and support. As the general said, we believe that these targets fell into exactly that criteria. And the goal here is to get these attacks to stop. We are not looking for a war with Iran. We have live team coverage of every angle of the story. Let's start first with I-24 news correspondent Jonathan Regev. He has the very latest season of the southern part of Israel right now. Jonathan, B-1 bombers, 85 targets, this was not just a slap. No, it was not just a slap, just as you mentioned, President Biden making good on his promise and targeting many, many, I'm not going to call it Iranian targets, but Iranian proxy targets especially in Syria and in Iraq, this has happened. There's no Israeli comment, of course, on paper at least. This is not an Israeli issue and plus it happened on Friday night on the Jewish Sabbath, so there's no Israeli comment, but I'm quite sure that Israeli officials are happy perhaps as opposed to America which did not want to get involved in this war but eventually did. We're seeing American warships in the Gulf of Aden. We're now seeing American bombers in Syria and in Iraq and these are all targets that are threatening Israel. It was only yesterday when again a missile was fired from Yemen and Iraq. It was only earlier this week when a missile was fired from Iraq towards the port of Haifa, I believe they were all intercepted way before they reached their target but these are targets that are threatening Israel and Israel which is preoccupied itself with a war in Gaza which is right behind me and the tensions on the Lebanese border is very happy to see some other power, of course in the United States dealing with those targets which are threatening Israel. Great, Jonathan Regan giving us the nuts and bolts as to what happened with the attack yesterday by the Americans. Thanks so much, Jonathan. We're now just getting word in Iran's President Ibrahim Reis he has responded. Take a listen to what he just said moments ago. Before whenever the Americans wanted to talk to Iran like any other country they said that the military option is on the table. Now you do not hear these words anymore they even say we have no intention of any conflict with Iran. This is the power of our religious people who are always present which are considered so important for our country our armed forces are powerful and are always present. We've said many times we will not initiate any war but if anyone wants to bully us Iran will respond firmly. Let's continue our live coverage right now Dr. Mayor Jevin Afar is joining us he's an Iran lecturer at Breitman University joining us this morning. Dr. Mayor what is your response initial response to the U.S. attack on western Iraq and Syria on these targets 85 targets plus? Well we have to wait and see first and foremost what the extent of the damages because the attack certainly was not a surprise and I think the Iranians would have moved most of their military hardware away from at least some of those sites so we really have to wait and see. I think that the main content the main focus of the attack the main goal was just to send a message to Iran that we are no longer sitting and watching Iran attack our forces in Iraq and Syria. It was also I think the Americans trying to send a message to the Chinese and to the Russians who have been underestimating American firepower and I think this was also you could say a live military exercise by the U.S. Air Force to send a strategic message to these other allies is this going to end Iranian attacks against U.S. forces I'm not so sure I'm not so sure to be honest with you because the the Iranian regime its core interest is its own territory and its own territory was not attacked it can always find and recruit these Iraqi and Syrian militias these militias they bring them from Afghanistan they bring them the Shia militia Shia from Pakistan and the Shia in Iraq many of them are unemployed they can rebuild these things the Iranian drone factories that make these drones and the missile factories that make the missiles that these proxies fired Israel and the United States are still churning out the material they can still send it I think Mr. Biden is I mean I don't want to give a too long an answer but I think Mr. Biden is doing the best he can within the limits Right, let's talk about that if we can Dr. Dervin Afar let me read you something this is coming from U.S. Senator Roger Wicker he is the Republican from Mississippi he is the leading Republican on the Armed Services Committee it's the opposition if you will of American politics and he says quote now instead of giving the ayatollah the bloody nose that he deserves we continue to give him a slap on the wrist the Biden administration spent nearly a week foolishly telegraphing U.S. intentions to our adversaries giving them time to relocate and hide so is this basically a slap on the wrist or is it a bloody nose Look I think it's more of a strategic messaging this is more of a messaging within the best that Mr. Biden can do Are we in Israel disappointed yes we are because according to foreign news reports during the Naftali Bennett administration we even attacked UAV base in Iran we attacked according to that New York Times reports we destroyed at least 100 of not 200 Iranian UAVs in response to an attempted and UAV attack drone attack from Iran which was foiled over the skies of Jordan so we in Israel from our point of view we are yes we're saying it's not enough but I have to be honest with you I think we cannot just look at this war within the context of a U.S.-Iran war or a U.S.-Iran conflict the United States simultaneously involved in a huge military alignment against the huge military alignment by the Russians and the Chinese and the Iranians and the North Koreans the United States knows the Europeans do not have enough ammunition to face Russia the United States knows that the Chinese actually have more ships than the United States although they may not be as sophisticated but they have more ships the peak number of ships the United States has was in 1987 the American Army cannot find enough American soldiers to join it it has a shortage of manpower the Royal Navy on whom the Americans rely to defend against the Houthis and possibly against the Russians put out of commission I think one or even two warships they don't have enough sailors so when we look at this war against Iran we have to put it into context of the global war that the United States is involved in and the resource shortages that they have which is why President Biden he did what he did Dr. Jevon Afar if I can what you're basically saying is that the western world is outnumbered correct correct so there's not winning the western world can't win no we have to build more weapons it's not a question of we can't win we can't win more I was hoping for example that Israel they were hoping especially European countries that Israel will continue to our weapons build up because we have a military infrastructure their military infrastructure was reduced after the Cold War but we kept ours we have the factories but this war in Gaza has taken out quite a big part of what we intended to export to the European country so that they can be ready against Russia and China but we but now we're going to use it for our own this is a whole new recalculation of how things are going to be done in this region and in the world because of the shortages that we face but this does not mean that sooner or later after the current Gaza war somebody may start attacking Iran again this does not mean that but when it comes to saying are we ready for a full on war with Iran we have to take into consideration the other wars that the United States is involving that the weakness in the European arsenal the weakness in the European armies they want to save their resources for that so then how did we prepare how does we I'm saying we meaning Israel and the United States prepare for what possibly could be a response from Iran first and foremost it's possible that they could attack the public will attack US bases in Iraq, Syria I mean is there a chance they might attack US bases in Saudi Arabia and UAE of Bahrain chances are there in Saudi Arabia and UAE the chances are not very high but in Bahrain it's possible that they could attack it there can I just have one more point please strategically speaking let's talk strategic not tactics strategically if you want to address this Iranian issue this Iranian threat this is a very serious threat us in Israel Prime Minister Netanyahu should join President Biden in reforming the PLO and finding a solution for Gaza of course after we've got their hostages back without a question but once we've done that we find a solution for Gaza with the reformed PLO then we will be able to focus on Iran because President Biden wants us to focus on Iran he doesn't want Gaza to become a distraction it's a distraction now and until such times that Prime Minister Netanyahu decides to accept the PLO we're not going to have a strategic solution for Gaza which means we will not be able to focus to return to focus on Iran President Biden wants to find a solution for Gaza so that we can join we will be able to join the Saudis and to and everybody else in the Middle East to focus on Iran I understand that but that's strategic that seems like a long term long term fix of a problem that's changing by the hour I mean it seems as though everything is happening the news cycle not even the news cycle the military cycle is happening so quick that that sounds like a great idea to do for a long horizon but is that fast enough for what's happening around the world you know I would love to be able to tell you that you know there should be a stronger response and that the Iranian regime should be punished more severely but when you read about constantly about the United States is stretched ladies and gentlemen I 24 viewers the United States is severely stretched the European armies are stretched they are playing catch up all these years you know just you know how Hamas fooled us all these years by saying we just want to focus on the Gaza economy so we look at the way we know that in Israel so the Europeans were fooled by the Russians all these years and the Chinese fooled the United States by saying oh we just want to focus on our economy but meanwhile they were building a massive weapons arsenal but we in the west thought that no they don't want more we were fooled they don't want more they just want to build an economy so we put our arms production on a lower pace we decreased it while they increased it so we are facing a gap and we have to take that gap into consideration when we talk about you know whether we want a more severe response against Iran or not and I think this gap played a big part in President Biden's calculation and of course his reelection without doubt. Dr. Mayor Jevin Afar Iranian lecture for Reikman University thanks again for joining us this morning with an analysis very important insight thank you again. Thank you. We're going to turn to another top story that we've been talking about an internal dispute between the leadership and Hamas over ceasefire deal I'm joined in studio now by Dr. Shakhneria the former deputy head of assessment for Israeli military intelligence he was also the former foreign policy advisor for Prime Minister Yusuf Rabin thank you again for joining us. Well we'll talk from a standpoint as far as assessment of where we are in the world doesn't sound very optimistic. Well even though I think that he's overreacting but I mean I always remember that when the United States decided to go to war in the Second World War it took three days to put a liberty ship in the sea so when the United States will decide that what it has as ammunition is not enough then I don't think that it's a problem for the United States to begin producing and overproducing and this is not an item not at all the problem is the resolve America has tried since the beginning of the war to avoid the escalation of the war to turn into a regional war and in fact I mean it hasn't already a regional war it's already a regional war hasn't succeeded the United States is drawn like in a whirlpool in the east Syria and Iraq it's been under attack for almost four months and now it's the reaction maybe too late it should have reacted earlier and then the United States is busy also with Yemen when the United States has taken upon itself the responsibility of assuring the waterway the open waterway international so on the one hand you have the Houthis and the ocean the Indian Ocean and then I mean definitely it's too stretched it's stretched too much well you're talking about the superpower really I mean look what happened in the snatch B1 bombers come from the United States the same could have come from the UK from Cyprus and other places let us not minimize the power of the United States is still a power the problem is that the United States has no intention right now to confront Iran directly and this is the real problem as long as you don't deal with the bases with the beasts then you have to treat with the other things well because the Americans and then I'm sure Dr. Javan Afar would have mentioned of it too is that the Americans are afraid of you deal with Iran you're dealing with China you're dealing with Russia as well I overreacted concerning the one who was I mean with no ammunition and with no weapons was Russia they are they signed an agreement with Iran in order to produce in Russia the the drones the Iranian drones can you imagine that Russia had no drones at all no no industry and it had and it was compelled for more than six months they had nothing so they had to import from Iran drones and missiles and this is what this is the word I mean it's not only the United States the Russians were also living in a dream let's talk about let's talk about Hamas and let's talk about this fight internal fight maybe it's a little bickering that's occurring and somehow it made it to the Wall Street Journal the Wall Street Journal is reporting that Yahya Sinwar wants a six-week ceasefire but the others outside of Gaza want a longer permanent ceasefire which we make of this internal squabbling is it is it much to be made about nothing it's much out about nothing as your correspondent said earlier there was declaration of the leadership the Palestinian leadership all the factions that convened in Cairo saying that unless there's a total ceasefire cessation of hostilities and withdrawal of Israeli troops then nothing will be nothing will be achieved so we are back to square one and it seems that Yahya Sinwar who is the man in the field has imposed his will so the I mean talk to their viewers I'm sorry to interrupt but talk to the viewers as to who may not understand who the players are what power they have well you have the Hamas leadership that lives outside outside Gaza I mean mainly in Qatar and Turkey and some of them maybe in Lebanon and you have also other Palestinian factions who are in Lebanon and Syria and Iraq and in Turkey whereas at Sinwar the head of Hamas the head of the snake as we call it is in Gaza he's the military commander he is the the de facto military commander of what's happening and he's the one the strategist the one who is directing the the whole operations against together with associate Muhammedif so these two are the ones that are calling the shots I mean all those who are outside I mean we see the lots of criticism concerning the restaurants that Tania is going to and the lavish life he has in Qatar and so on so the one that imposes the will and says what will happen is Sinwar really so you don't think he gets outvoted he gets outvoted in a room where he says listen you're we decide it's two against one I'm sorry you're in the field but we decide they can decide whatever they want the field doesn't comply with the decisions that are taken abroad there's nothing of importance there's a chance that Sinwar will say listen you want a permanency fire it's not going to happen the Israelis are not going to have a permanency fire well you know we're talking with we're dealing with a psychopath this is very difficult I mean the psychologist the psychiatrist has to deal with this man and say I mean what sort of behavior here right now he has decided that he will be a martyr he will fight to the last of his maybe of his hostages because the hostages are in fact his human shield so why should he at this moment take this human shield from from his protection and give it back to to Israel Dr. Jacques Nariah the former deputy head of assessment for Israeli military intelligence the former foreign policy advisor from Prime Minister Yusuf I've been always a pleasure to have you in this morning thanks again you know until October the 7th women fighters from the K9 Oketz unit which operates with specially trained dogs were mainly engaged in locating missing persons and weapons in the West Bank and since the beginning of the war 17 weeks ago today and after undergoing some special training they've been working alongside their dogs in the heart of the Gaza Strip proving that every day why women are an integral part of defending Israel we have more in this report good dog great search for those who look from the side it would be difficult to recognize the uniqueness of the team training here in Zikim base but the expression beneath the face mask shows that this is a unique team of female fighters for four months now they have been doing everything possible so that the barking they hear in the training they will hear in Gaza as well after their dogs managed to locate explosives or even a live fighter the Megan squad consists of K9 Oketz unit fighters who operate continuously on two levels locating missing persons among ruins of buildings and finding weapons in the territories but after October 7th they underwent special training together with their dogs for fighting inside Gaza we train at destruction sites which is something we would not do before before October 7th we train in close spaces the explosions in Gaza are something they are not used to hearing so they are trained to work under pressure under intense noise how do you train for such a thing we have machines that simulate explosions we practice at the ranges where the dogs are trained to be under control with shooting in the background and how is Tobi Tobi is like a machine he knows the job I trust him with my eyes closed we worked hard for it there were moments when he was not easy with the noise of the explosions so we trained mainly on that like the female fighters themselves Tobi also needed preparation before entering the battlefield inside Gaza the dogs are equipped with earplugs and still it is unlike any activity they have done before how do you feel about fighting inside Gaza is it hard I was actually really looking forward to it when you fight with the dog you ask yourself how things will go there are so many concerns you have to take care of his food his health, that's a lot on your mind they are teamed up with the fighting forces in the field and assist in finding Hamas weapons and also in locating casualties and the missing for example in the disaster last week the danger of the Gaza Strip collapsed on fighters when you get to a place like this and there are lots of forces, noise, explosions you send a dog and in the end it's just you and him there's silence and you listen to him and as soon as the barking comes it's an incredible feeling you're getting crazy no that's a hug oh that's a hug on October 7th the fighters found themselves searching for signs that would provide the families of the missing with answers in one of the activities with luck he found an object which closed the circle for the family as soon as I discovered it it was a feeling of pride and also an understanding of the general situation and its values now they are probably on their next mission and while fighting on the battlefield in the high court there are still petitions demanding the IDF allows women on the front line it was already said in this war but we should say it again this war proved how much female fighters are an integral part in the defense of the country we are ready for anything for any task even if it takes time that's what we're here for is there a sense of pride in being a female fighter definitely it's amazing to see how people are more and more aware that a woman fighter especially with a dog is something that is necessarily needed in the field we're in a situation where the forces specifically require the girls of Okit's unit and their abilities because they know the advantages that we bring that's great you should know this is 17 weeks since the war began 17 weeks ago today day 120 this is after the war of independence in 1948 the longest war Israel has fought so the recap in you now on our top story that just broke moments ago America has made good on its promise to respond to attacks by Iranian-backed militias B-1 bombers bombed at least 7 locations of those militias more than 125 precision munitions were dropped at least 85 targets in both Syria and Western Iraq and I'll ask for the war itself in Israel there is a report in the Wall Street Journal that there is some sort of internal strife between Hamas leadership about accepting a ceasefire deal with Yahya Sinwar set to want a six-week halt but the rest asking for a permanent halt and international guarantees that Gaza would get rebuilt now this comes as Hamas and Islamic jihad issued a joint statement saying that any deal would have to have an Israeli permanent ceasefire should also know that Algeria has pushed a UN resolution to call for immediate ceasefire and the Americans say that this resolution is going to put any negotiations in jeopardy and you should know also that the United States can always veto a UN resolution as a member of the Security Council as a big five this Security Council going back to the United States President Joe Biden says that the action taken against those militias is just the beginning I'm going to quote you now time and place of our choosing you can get the very latest here on I-24 News I'm Albert Lewitson reporting from Tel Aviv the news continues after this break marks International Holocaust Remembrance Day at 11 a.m. a special premiere broadcast of the movie Journey of Hope which recalls the heart-wrenching story of kinder transport survivors and at 6 p.m. Israel time join Ellie Holkenberg for a special broadcast from Yad Vashem with three generations of Holocaust survivors and those who escaped the October 7th Massacre bridging the past and the present this Saturday only on I-24 News we have a lot of people from the Middle East who have taken us to the most of Europe, they have already taken over more than 200 such solutions and there is no such thing in the world we have to find a place to prepare for it I-24 News Headquarters in Tel Aviv welcome to our viewers around the world we begin with breaking news continuing breaking news Iranian-backed militias have attacked American troops more than 170 times and now America has made good at least 85 targets in both Syria and Western Iraq more than 125 precision munitions were dropped as for the war itself there is a report in the Wall Street Journal that there is some sort of internal strike within Hamas about accepting a ceasefire deal it sounds like Yahya Sinwar is said to want a six-week halt so that they can regroup while Polapurahed Ismail Hania is pushing for a permanent ceasefire with international guarantees and a plan for rebuilding Gaza Hamas and Islamic jihad issued a joint statement last night saying that any hostage deal must include a complete with Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and a permanent ceasefire meanwhile, Algeria has pushed a UN resolution to call for an immediate ceasefire the Americans say that this resolution could put some sensitive negotiations in jeopardy in the United States you should know could veto any UN resolution because of the big five of the Security Council now going back to the United States President Joe Biden says the action taken against Iranian-backed militias is just the beginning quoting now, it will continue at times and places of our choosing here's Rorabinal John Kirby of the U.S. Security Council we do not seek a conflict with Iran these targets are chosen as we said to degrade and disrupt the capabilities of the IRGC and the groups that they sponsor and support as the general said we believe that these targets fell into exactly that criteria and you know the goal here is to get these attacks to stop we are not looking for a war with Iran we're following every angle of the story let's start our live team coverage with I-24 news correspondent Jonathan Regev he has the very latest on this on the strike on Iranian-backed militia targets Jonathan yes so first as in as you said President Biden and the administration have gone forward with their promise hitting Iranian proxy targets in Iraq and in Syria all that is true but we just heard John Kirby saying it loud and clear we do not want a war with Iran and at the end it is Iran sponsoring all of these proxy organizations so I think the U.S. signaling very clear that yes it is taking action from an extent and this action was not exactly a secret no one really was surprised the U.S. for a week since those American servicemen were killed ever since then the United States giving the signal that it will act so yes there's action forceful action where it changed things all together here in the region not so sure Jonathan talk to us a little bit about the 170 target the attacks that the Iranian-backed militias and the American targets 170 of them throughout western Iraq and Syria what are these targets that the Iranian-backed militias are hitting mainly American bases American installations let's remember there are American forces stationed in in Syria in Iraq and in Jordan those servicemen were killed by a drone strike in Jordan there are American installations there are American servicemen in this area in far smaller numbers than the word before forces have been taken out of this area already in the times of President Obama President Trump and also a little bit under President Biden but still there are American bases in the area the area of Atan for example in southern Syria and in Jordan and those have been the targets of especially drone attacks also little bit missiles but mainly drone attacks coming not from Iran itself but mostly from Iraq from organizations affiliated with Iran the Iranians are playing a very good game on the one hand manipulating everyone around financing all these organizations but never getting their own hands dirty let's talk about those organizations one of them being Hamas there's a report in today's Wall Street Journal that Hamas apparently is having some sort of internal strife that Sinwar and Haniya are having a battle to understand what the deal that they'd like to have with Israel what's the latest on that that is correct and let's understand the differences Iqya Sinwar and Mohamed Def they are the leaders of the Political Bureau and Military Bureau in Gaza they're sitting now for four months in a bunker and I'm sure it's not very comfortable there I'm sure they're eager for some fresh air so they have one opinion for Ismail Aniyah it is very it is quite easy to say no we should continue and we should stand up with our resistance doing it from a 7 star hotel in Qatar that of course is easier he can go to the spa every day and have massage and eat whatever you want and sit in the most luxurious hotel there is so it's quite easy from there to say no we should continue with the resistance those are actually dealing with the results of that resistance they have a different view and it is those contradicting opinions between these two that are perhaps having some kind of a difficulty regarding with the way that Hamas should response to the proposal put forward by the Americans by the Qataris of course Qatar can have a certain leverage on Ismail Aniyah who's in Qatar itself is Qatar doing enough to make sure that this this deal actually moves forward I'm not so sure and we're we should be used by now to this double standard by Qatar on the one hand pushing for a deal on the other hand financing strongly financing those who oppose the deal those who push for terrorism but it also seems that it seems to be a crack in the wall that Israel might be able to say okay you know what if they can't settle on an agreement so what it should be maybe we should rethink the plan there are many people in Israel also within the Israeli government who I'll say are not too sad to see that there are problems with reaching an agreement coming on behalf of Hamas we know that there are many elements within this government and we should be fair and also say that many elements within the Israeli society are not happy with this deal because of the very heavy price that Israel will pay some call it ceasefire are there calling it opposing all together of the war also the number of prisoners and the not only the number of the prisoners but the identity of the prisoners some of them the most terrible murders and terrorists there are that Israel has to release from jail not everybody in Israel is happy about this deal to say the least and if the resistance to this deal the opposition to this deal will come from Hamas then just as you say Israel can say well you know what there is a deal despite all the difficulties we said yes we moved forward it is the other side refusing if they're refusing we will go on and you the Americans the Qataris the Saudis Egyptians whoever come with a better deal great Jonathan Regev giving us up to speed from the southern part of Israel thanks so much for that we're just going back to our top story the American attack Iranian-backed militias in westerns Iraq and eastern Syria Iran's President Abraham Raisi has just responded a few moments ago take a listen before whenever the Americans wanted to talk to Iran like any other country they said that the military option is on the table now you do not hear these words anymore they even say we have no intention of any conflict with Iran this is the power of our religious people who are always present which are considered so important for our country our armed forces are powerful and are always present we've said many times we will not initiate any war but if anyone wants to bully us Iran will respond firmly I'm joined in the studio by Professor Uzair Abid the director of the Moshe Diane Center for Middle East Studies at Tel Aviv University he's also with the Center for Iranian Studies at the University thanks so much for coming in busy morning Raisi said just now is it bolstering or is it call to arms in my opinion what Raisi actually has just commented is that he is being encouraged in my opinion by the American response verbally by which to say that listen we don't want a war this is something of a retaliation of what you did to us and I feel sorry for that because I think it's not the right way to talk to Iran at this moment basically what the American did is kind of an attack I would say sort of unprecedented under the circumstances too much too strong no too it's too late it might be strong but it's too late because actually the Iranians were there actually for decades they are the most destabilizing force in the Middle East everybody knows that what the Americans actually have witnessed or experienced is from kind of a close proximity to see how this whole theater of let's say proxy network is working and of course what Gaza actually provided Iran with is an opportunity to reactivate this theater now the drone attack actually has resulted in the killing of three Americans this is something that can explain why now why did the American do that now but in my opinion the verbal response in the aftermath saying that listen this is kind of a lesson if you are going to hit us we're gonna get back but there's 170 attacks by Iranian back militias on American soil an American soil on American troops at some point Washington the Pentagon had to say okay enough's enough yep but this is a preventive thinking I think that it's time for the United States to be on the offensive I would like to see at this stage kind of a direct attack on Iran itself not proxies only in order to put some teeth to an American saying that enough is enough that would be understood by Iran the simple fact that you're just so racy saying that yes America is still afraid of us America is not going to wage a war against us the religious people and all that nonsense that he comes up with this is definitely kind of an understanding of those guys troublemakers or the main troublemakers in the Middle East of what the plane or how the plane is going to be played out I think I understand that the United States wouldn't like actually to have a regional war at this stage I understand that the Americans actually do think about actually domestic consumption and the elections and that's the last thing Americans want just me when I tell you the last thing Americans want is another war I know but listen there is a lesson with these guys if you are not going to deliver the right message when I'm saying attack Iran I'm not saying actually open up a war no that's the opposite if you're going to be highly penetrative and leave behind kind of a very painful attack this would give some food for Iran food for thought they would understand that the Americans actually could easily go from one situation to the other and attack Iran and you know if you are not going to leave it there this is the Middle East it tells you back and forth that those troublemakers are going to understand that you are you know you are pretty pretty limited in your retaliation in your attack in your performance and this is why actually they are you know coming up with that in Iran and you have to admit that look at that what Iran is doing in the region Iran is operating almost everybody and they have the Houthis they have Syria they have Iraq they have Libya they have this they have that and you know what if America which is the only party that could deal with Iran not Israel the only party that could effectively deal with Iran is the Americans I don't think that sanctions are going to help out in that in that manner yeah I mean we are well experienced with that we know that the yeah whenever you have sanctions actually revolutionary guards are capitalizing on that there is all these biases from the bus report and others and the Iranians are well experienced with it just remember that Iran since 1979 is living actually side by side or alongside with sanctions so actually sanctions is the regular thing that they do they think about it in the one minute we have left is a direct strike like what the Trump administration did on Custom Soleimani is that really the way to go to do those surgical strikes yeah this is definitely something that lives behind the right impression but if that is the case it's too late it's maybe a very good retaliation but actually it's too late because the Iranians are very very fast to understand or to grasp that the Americans are on the defensive basically or this is a preventive act it's not something of offensive nature no one thing I will and at the point that the President Biden says it's the first it remains to be seen good Professor Ruzi Ravi the director of the Moshe Diane Center of Middle East Studies at Tel Aviv University and the Center of Iranian Studies thanks again for joining us this morning the Israel Hamas War has presented many challenges for Israel society from survivors to hostages soldiers to affected families everyone has a story to tell now in this next report that's adapted from Israel's channel 12 we're going to explore the lives of the spouses of injured soldiers and civilians take a listen in my bed I open it every morning I close it like this again so that there will be some space here my blanket, the closet, the shampoo conditioner and all in all you live very near in Ramadan we live 10 minutes drive from here so why are you here all the time because there is no option I didn't think at the age of 24 that I would face these things that I would learn to take the first step he would be changing diapers he would be sedated and ventilated and me next to him holding his hand and I don't know how we will wake up and what he remembers and what he doesn't remember and what he saw during the day Shir is head of the lone soldier section at the Tel Hashimer base at four in the afternoon she arrives here at the Tel Hashimer hospital she and Avatar are 24 years old only together for a year but exceptionally committed he is a paratroop company commander who was critically wounded while defending Kibbutz Kisofim on October the 7th we wanted to be free and travel and we said come on let's take a trip after the army and suddenly you say how will we be able to do all these things that we dreamed of a wedding will he manage to dance all evening the way I want which apartment will we move to because we need to move to one with accessibility what was the hardest thing you went through during this period every time I was sedated and ventilated for 10 days when he started to wake up we realized that we had to monitor what happened to him his grandfather passed away in the days when he was sedated and ventilated on October 7 6 fighters from your company fell and we were called here and there and it was a very very difficult day one day I said to him Evita I want to be normal I want to cry to you now about how annoying work was and I feel like I constantly have to become and strong and optimistic and happy and smiling and everything is fine and I just want to tell you now about this annoying day I had what a magnificent wall this wall is a piece of genius because in the first week then I was on a high because I didn't die but then you realize it's going to be long and you get depressed then Barr caught the depression and then she brought all these pictures and it just made a change and do you know that picture that attracts the most attention is this one yes this is a picture I have not seen him like this after I got here from the moment he realized dad was injured he was alone in uniform and went with it for two consecutive weeks he slept with it he went to kindergarten with it he went to classes with it you know he walks through the kibbutz people salute him Saul is five years old he has been living with his grandmother in kibbutz maor for a month mom only comes on weekends the rest of the time she's in the hospital there's a trap note pieces in his body there's almost no organ that was not damaged a few days ago he came out of intensive care and got stronger now Barr is making up for what he went through is he stronger? yes I'm afraid let's lower the shoulder let's lower the hand completely I will release the shoulder hold it don't move when he started waking you up then your eyes rolled back like this he started shaking and she said to me yes he's waking up talk to him then I started telling you Michael I'm here you're in Tel Aviv saved Michael I worry about you Michael you're out of it and that's how I talk to you for many hours I was constantly waking up every two days I had anesthesia they do some kind of test they changed my bandages and every time I woke up I was still inside Gaza I had a lot of contacts loading the mines he would send me on missions Gaza missions we need to clean the weapons and then it took a while for it to pass it's you every hour wow somewhere Barr became a partner absolutely and also maybe a psychologist or a social worker so I can also deal with the mental things just like the body injuries the couple's daughters quite quickly and reluctantly became nannies as well this has difficult consequences for them and also for married life you have two children that you haven't finished breakfast with I found myself in the first few days shell-shocked I had panic attacks every time I took it one step too far then I realized that in order to hold on and to be there for Michael I had to look after myself as well after two and a half weeks in intensive care I realized that I had to move I had to move my body I didn't sleep for two weeks I walked, I found a treadmill here inside the hospital I just walked, ran, cried every day I go to shower although it is very difficult for me to leave the ward very difficult for me going to shower, dressing in clothes I like putting on perfume putting on face cream, I don't give up on myself Michael has a song that he particularly likes for many years a song by Idan Amedi when Saul missed dad he would ask to sing it with his mom on the piano when I was evacuated in the helicopter they gave me painkillers they gave me ketamine the doctor said it could either be very good for you so to keep my morale up he said maybe I should sing a song or something and that was the song I was singing or a singing out of tune I was really out of tune but it kept my spirits high and then I came here and I found out that they have been singing it together and then the first time Saul came to visit me of course we sang it together what do you miss the most? normality, routine I often catch myself saying I wish I had just gone to work today in the simplest way I just wanted to end Avital, Amichai and their six children live in Kibbutz Karem Shalom in the western most house closest to the fence the terrorists attach an explosive device to the door and then they go back and attach an explosive device to the door of the safe room Amichai lost one hand does it scare you that he will be different when he returns? he is my love and he remains my love I married Amichai because he was a very caring person that's what was important to me that he would really be a person who sees me, who knows what I need and who also knows how to give me these things and they didn't take that away from him it still remains I always had someone to help me and now I'm alone there's nothing that helps me and it's very insufficient we did everything together and now this togetherness remains only on me is there anything you need? so just yesterday I told someone that this is the hardest question they ask because right now when I sit and talk to you I don't need anything but if someone knocked on my door and said I came to do the dishes for you I would let them in and if someone came and told me I'm with the kids now go to the mall for two hours don't worry, I would let them in saying what you need is very difficult do you feel invisible? sometimes yes when they come and ask how he is and forget to ask how I am and it's no less a struggle in the end both of them are crazy struggle that I don't wish on anyone is in any association or group that takes care of the shells of the families Michael, Avatar and Ami Hai are currently not expected to be released from the hospital Barr, Sher and Avital want them so much at home but are also afraid of what the homecoming meanwhile, love conquers all even severe injuries hello how are you? how was it? so I caught you on the way on the stairs I went, we walked beautiful we progressed to one I gave her a heart attack on October 7 and from there she is only with me all the time even when I was sedated and ventilated she held my hand every time to make sure I was in the right position right what do you find yourself telling her the most? I tell her thank you you haven't asked her to marry you yet? no, that's later because right now I can't kneel you're looking at live pictures of Gaza this is where thousands and thousands of IDF troops are fighting right now we can give you an update on what's happening in Gaza the IDF overnight have eliminated dozens of Hamas fighters when they went into Khan Yunus they found another storage area where they found not only RPGs and grenades but scuba equipment which leads many to think that there was some sort of attack plan from the sea you should know that the Israeli Navy has also been doing some shelling and responding to shelling that's occurring from the coast of Gaza right now now this just to let our viewers know we're now at 120 days this is the longest war that Israel has fought since the 1948 war of independence you'll recall the first Lebanon war of 1982 that lasted 116 days and now we are 120 days there are 13,794 injured IDF soldiers there are 100s 136 hostages that remain I'm Albert Lewitson reporting live from Tel Aviv the news continues after this break you're watching i24 news this Saturday i24 news marks international holocaust remembrance day at 11am a special premiere broadcast of the movie journey of hope which recalls the heart-wrenching story of kinder transport survivors and at 6pm Israel time join Ellie Hülkenberg for a special broadcast from Yad Vashem with three generations of holocaust survivors and those who escaped the October 7th massacre bridging the past and the present this Saturday only on i24 news welcome to our viewers around the world we begin with breaking news continuing breaking news Iranian-backed militias have attacked American troops more than 170 times and now America has made good on its promise to respond B-1 bombers bombed at least 7 locations at least 85 targets in both Syria and western Iraq more than 125 precision munitions were dropped as for the war itself there is a report in the Wall Street Journal with some sort of internal strife within Hamas about accepting a cease-fire deal it sounds like Yahya Sinwar is said to want a six-week halt so that they can regroup while Polo Bureau head Ismail Hania is pushing for a permanent cease-fire with international guarantees and a plan for rebuilding Gaza now this comes as Hamas and Islamic jihad issued a joint statement last night saying that any hostage deal must include a complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and a permanent cease-fire permanent cease-fire meanwhile, Algeria has pushed the UN resolution to call for an immediate cease-fire the Americans say that this resolution could put some sensitive negotiations in jeopardy in the United States you should know could veto any UN resolution because of the big five of the Security Council now going back to the United States President Joe Biden says the action taken against Iranian-backed militias is just the beginning quoting now, it will continue at times and places of our choosing John Kirby of the U.S. Security Council we do not seek a conflict with Iran these targets are chosen as we said to degrade and disrupt the capabilities of the IRGC and the groups that they sponsor and support as the general said we believe that these targets fell into exactly that criteria and the goal here is to get these attacks to stop we are not looking for a war with Iran we are following every angle of the story let's start our live team coverage with I-24 news correspondent Jonathan Raghav he has the very latest on this on the strike on Iranian-backed militia targets Jonathan Yes, so first as you said President Biden and the administration have gone forward with their promise hitting Iranian Iranian proxy targets in Iraq and in Syria all that is true but we just heard John Kirby saying it loud and clear we do not want a war with Iran and at the end it is Iran sponsoring all of these all of these proxy organizations so I think the U.S. signalling very clear that yes it is taking action but to a certain extent and this action was not exactly a secret no one really was surprised the U.S. for a week since those American servicemen were killed ever since then they did not say it is giving the signal that it will act so yes there is action forceful action where it changed things all together here in the region, not so sure Jonathan, talk to us a little bit about the 170 target the attacks that the Iranian-backed militias have had on American targets 170 of them throughout western Iraq and Syria what are these targets that the Iranian-backed militias are hitting the bases of American installations let's remember there are American forces stationed in Syria in Iraq and in Jordan those servicemen were killed by a drone strike in Jordan there are American installations there are American servicemen in this area certainly in far smaller numbers than there were before forces have been taken out of this area already a little bit under President Biden but still there are American bases in the area the area of Atan for example in southern Syria and in Jordan and those have been the targets of especially drone attacks also little bit missiles but mainly drone attacks coming not from Iran itself but mostly from Iraq from organizations affiliated with Iran the Iranians are playing a very good game manipulating everyone around financing all these organizations but never, never getting their own hands dirty let's talk about those organizations one of them being Hamas there's a report in today's Wall Street Journal that Hamas apparently is having some sort of internal strife that Sinwar and Hania are having a battle as to what the deal that they'd like to have with Israel what's the latest on that that is correct Ikhya Sinwar and Mouhamad Def they are the leaders of the political bureau and military bureau in Gaza they're sitting now for four months in a bunker and I'm sure it's not very comfortable there I'm sure they're eager for some fresh air so they have one opinion for Ismail Aniyah it is very it is quite easy to say no we should continue and we should stand up with our resistance doing it from a 7 star hotel in Qatar that of course is easier he can go to the spa every day and have massage and eat whatever you want and sit in the most luxurious hotel there is so it's quite easy from there to say no we should continue with the resistance those are actually dealing with the results of that resistance they have a different view and it is those are contradicting opinions between these two that are perhaps having some kind of a difficulty regarding with the way that Hamas should response to the the proposal put forward by the Americans by the Qataris of course Qatar can have a certain leverage on Ismail Aniyah who is in Qatar itself is Qatar doing enough to make sure that this this deal actually moves forward I'm not so sure and we're we should be used by now to this double standard by Qatar on the one hand pushing for a deal on the other hand financing strongly financing those who oppose the deal those who push for terrorism but it also seems that it seems to be a crack in the wall that Israel might be able to say ok you know what if they can't settle on an agreement so what it should be maybe we should rethink the plan there are many people in Israel also within the Israeli government who I'll say are not too sad to see that there are problems reaching an agreement coming on behalf of Hamas we know that there are many elements within this government and we should be fair and also say that many elements within the Israeli society are not happy with this deal because of the very heavy price that Israel will pay some call it cease fire other are calling it opposing all together of the war also the number of prisoners and the only the number of the prisoners but the identity of the prisoners some of them the most terrible murders and terrorists there are that Israel has to release from jail not everybody in Israel is happy about this deal to say the least and if the resistance to this deal the opposition to this deal will come from Hamas then just as you say Israel can say well you know what there is a deal despite all the difficulties we said yes we moved forward it is the other side if they are refusing we will go on and you the Americans the Qataris the Saudis Egyptians whoever come with a better deal great Jonathan Regev giving us up to speed from the southern part of Israel thanks so much for that we are just going back to our top story the American attack on Iranian backed militias in westerns Iraq and eastern Syria Iran's President Ebrahim Raisi has just responded a few moments ago take a listen before whenever the Americans used to talk to Iran like any other country they said that the military option is on the table now you do not hear these words anymore they even say we have no intention of any conflict with Iran this is the power of our religious people who are always present which are considered so important for our country our armed forces are powerful and are always present we have said many times we will not initiate any war but if anyone wants to bully us Iran will respond firmly I am joined in the studio by Professor Uzi Ravi the director of the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle East studies at Tel Aviv University he is also with the Center for Iranian Studies at the University thanks so much for coming in busy morning Raisi said just now is it bolstering or is it call to arms in my opinion what Raisi actually has just commented is that he is being encouraged in my opinion by the American response verbally by which to say that listen we don't want a war this is something of a retaliation of what you did to us and I feel sorry for that because I think it's not the right way to talk to Iran at this moment basically what the American did is a kind of an attack I would say sort of unprecedented under the circumstances too much too strong no too it's too late it might be strong but it's too late because actually the Iranians were there actually for decades they are the most destabilizing force in the Middle East everybody knows that what the Americans actually have witnessed or experienced is from kind of a close proximity to see how this whole theater let's say proxy network is working and of course what Gaza actually provided Iran with is an opportunity to reactivate this theater now the drone attack actually has resulted in the killing of three Americans this is something that can explain why now why did the American do that now but in my opinion the verbal response in the aftermath of saying that listen this is kind of a lesson if you are going to hit us we're gonna get back but there's 170 attacks by Iranian-backed militias on American soil not American soil on American troops at some point Washington the Pentagon had to say okay enough's enough yep but this is a preventive thinking I think that it's time for the United States to be on the offensive I would like to see at this stage kind of a direct attack itself not proxies only in order to put some teeth to an American saying that enough is enough that would be understood by Iran the simple fact that you just so raise he's saying that yes America is still afraid of us America is not going to wage a war against us the religious people and all that nonsense that he comes up with this is definitely kind of an understanding of those guys troublemakers or the main troublemakers in the Middle East of what the plane or how the plane is going to be played out I think I understand that the United States wouldn't like actually to have a regional war at this stage I understand that the Americans actually do think about actually domestic consumption and the elections and that's the last thing Americans want just me when I tell you the last thing Americans want is another war I know but listen there is a lesson with these guys if you are not going to deliver the right message when I'm saying attack Iran I'm not saying actually open up a war no that's the opposite if you are going to be highly penetrative and leave behind kind of a very painful attack this would give some food for Iran food for thought they would understand that the Americans actually could easily go from one situation to the other and attack Iran and if you are not going to leave it there this is the Middle East it tells you back and forth that those troublemakers are going to understand that you are you are pretty pretty limited in your retaliation in your attack in your performance and this is why actually they are coming up with that in Iran and you have to admit that look at that what Iran is doing in the region Iran is operating almost everybody and they have the Houthis they have Syria they have Iraq they have Libya they have this they have that and you know what if America which is the only party that could deal with Iran not Israel the only party that could effectively deal with Iran is the Americans I don't think that functions are going to help out in that manner we are well experienced with that we know that whenever you have functions actually revolutionary guards are capitalizing on that there is all these biases from the bus report and others and the Iranians are well experienced with it just remember that Iran since 1979 is living actually side by side or alongside with sanctions so actually sanctions is the regular thing in the one minute we have left is a direct strike like what the Trump administration did on Custom Soleimani is that really the way to go to do those surgical strikes this is definitely something that leaves behind the right impression but if that is the case it's too late it's maybe a very good retaliation but actually it's too late because the Iranians are very very fast to understand or to grasp the Americans are on the defensive basically or this is a preventive act it's not something of offensive nature no one thing I will end at the point that the President Biden says it's the first the first it remains to be seen good professor Ruzi Ravi the director of the Moshe Diane center of Middle East studies at Tel Aviv University and the center of Iranian studies thanks again for joining us this morning the Israel Hamas war has presented many examples of the Israeli war Israel society from survivors to hostages soldiers to affected families everyone has a story to tell now in this next report that's adapted from Israel's channel 12 we're going to explore the lives of the spouses of injured soldiers and civilians take a listen house this is my bed I open it every morning I close it like this again so that there will be some space here my blanket the closet all in all you live very near in Ramadan we live 10 minutes drive from here so why are you here all the time because there is no option I didn't think at the age of 24 that I would face these things that I would learn to take the first steps with my friends we would be changing diapers he would be sedated and ventilated and me next to him holding his hand and I don't know how we will wake up what he remembers and what he doesn't remember and what he saw during the day, Shir is head of the lone soldier section at the Tel Hashimer base at four in the afternoon, she arrives here at the Tel Hashimer hospital she and Evitar are 24 years old only together for a year but exceptionally committed he is a paratroop company commander who was critically wounded while defending Kibbutz Kisofim on October the 7th we wanted to be free and travel and we said come on let's take a trip after the army and suddenly you say how will we be able to do all these things that we dreamed of a wedding, will he manage to dance all evening the way I want which apartment will we move to because we need to move to one with accessibility what was the hardest thing you went through during this period Evitar was sedated and ventilated for 10 days when he started to wake up we realized that we had to monitor what happened to him his grandfather passed away in the days when he was sedated and ventilated on October 7 6 fighters from your company fell and we were called here and there and it was a very, very difficult day a very difficult day one day I said to him Evitar I want to be normal I want to cry to you now about how annoying work was and I feel like I constantly have to be calm and strong and optimistic and happy and smiling and everything is fine and I just want to tell you now about this annoying day I had what a magnificent wall this wall is a piece of genius because in the first week then I was on a high because I didn't die but then you realize it's going to be long and you get depressed then Barr caught the depression and then she brought all these pictures and it just made a change and do you know that picture that attracts the most attention is this one yes, this is a picture I have not seen him like this started with a uniform after I got here the moment he realized dad was injured he was alone in uniform and went with it for two consecutive weeks he slept with it he went to kindergarten with it he went to classes with it you know he walks through the kibbutz people salute him Saul is 5 years old he has been living with his grandmother in kibbutz maor for a month mom only comes on weekends the rest of the time she's in the hospital there was almost no organ that was not damaged a few days ago he came out of intensive care and got stronger now Barr is making up for what he went through even stronger let's lower the shoulder let's lower the hand completely I will release the shoulder hold it, don't move when he started waking you up then your eyes rolled back like this and I remember that I really started shaking and she said to me yes, he's waking up, talk to him then I started telling you Michael, I'm here, you're in Tel Aviv saved, Michael, I worry about you Michael, you're out of it and that's how I talk to you for many hours I was constantly waking up every two days I had anesthesia they do some kind of test they changed my bandages and every time I woke up I was still inside Gaza I had to fill sacks, load in the mines he would send me on missions Gaza missions we need to clean the weapons and then it took a while for it to pass it's you every hour wow somewhere Barr became a parker absolutely and also maybe a psychologist or a social worker so I can also deal with the mental things that are super complex just like cancer the couple's daughters quite quickly and reluctantly became nannies as well this has difficult consequences for them and also for married life you have two children that you haven't finished breakfast with I found myself in the first few days shell shocked I had panic attacks every time I took it one step too far then I realized that in order to hold on and to be there for Michael I had to look after myself as well after two and a half weeks in intensive care I realized that I had to move I had to move my body I didn't sleep for two weeks I walked, I found a treadmill here inside the hospital I just walked, ran, cried every day I go to shower although it is very difficult for me to leave the ward very difficult for me going to shower, dressing in clothes I like putting on perfume, putting on hair cream putting on face cream how much I love you how much I love you how much I love you Michael has a song that he particularly likes for many years a song by Idan Amedi when Saul missed dad he would ask to sing it with his mom on the piano when I was evacuated in the helicopter they gave me painkillers they gave me ketamine the doctor said it could either be very good keep my morale up maybe I should sing a song or something and that was the song I was singing or a singing out of tune I was really out of tune but it kept my spirits high and then I came here and I found out that they have been singing it together and then the first time Saul came to visit me of course we sang it together everyone was singing I want to give my best this is for you I know this is for the girls that I loved this is for me what do you miss the most normality routine I often catch myself saying I wish I had just gone to work today in the simplest way I just wanted to end Amihai and their six children live in Kibbutz Karem Shalom in the western-most house, closest to the fence. The terrorists attach an explosive device to the door of the safe room. Amihai lost one hand. Does it scare you that he will be different when he returns? He's your love. He is my love, and he remains my love. I married Amihai because he was a very caring person. That's what was important to me, that he would really be a person who sees me, who knows what I need, and who also knows how to give me these things. And they didn't take that away from him. It still remains. I always had someone to help me, and now I'm alone. There's nothing that helps me, and it's very insufficient. We did everything together, and now this togetherness remains only on me. Is there anything you need? So just yesterday, I told someone that this is the hardest question they ask, because right now, when I sit and talk to you, I don't need anything. But if someone knocked on my door and said, I came to do the dishes for you, I would happily let them in. And if someone came and told me, I'm with the kids now, go to the mall for two hours, don't worry, I would let them in. Saying what you need is very difficult. Do you feel invisible? Sometimes, yes. When they come and ask how he is, and forget to ask how I am, and it's no less a struggle in the end. Both of them are crazy struggle that I don't wish on anyone. There really isn't any association or group that takes care of the shells of the families. Michael, Avatar and Amihai are currently not expected to be released from the hospital. Barr, Shur and Avital want them so much at home, but are also afraid of what the homecoming will bring. And meanwhile, Love conquers all. Even civilians. They are afraid of what the homecoming will bring. And meanwhile, Love conquers all. Even civilians. They are afraid of what the homecoming will bring. Love conquers all. Even severe injuries. Hello. How are you? How was it? Is everything good? So I caught you on the way? On the stairs, I went. We walked. Beautiful, beautiful. We progressed to one. That's it. I gave her a heart attack on October 7th, and from there, she's only with me all the time. Even when I was sedated and ventilated, she held my hand every time to make sure I was the right position, that everything was fine. Yeah. What do you find yourself telling her the most? I tell her. Thank you. Thank her. You haven't asked her to marry you yet? No, that's later, because right now, I can't kneel. You're looking at live pictures of Gaza. This is where thousands and thousands of IDF troops are fighting right now. We can give you an update on what's happening in Gaza. The IDF overnight have eliminated dozens of Hamas fighters. When they went into Khan Yunus, they found another storage area where they found not only RPGs and grenades, but scuba equipment, scuba equipment, which leads many to think that there was some sort of attack plan from the sea. You should know that the Israeli Navy has also been doing some shelling and responding to shelling that's occurring from the coast of Gaza right now. Now, this, just to let our viewers know, we're now at 120 days. This is the longest war that Israel has fought since the 1948 War of Independence. You will recall the first Lebanon War of 1982. That lasted 116 days, and now we are 120 days. There are 13,794 injured IDF soldiers. There are 136 hostages that remain. I'm Albert Lewington reporting live from Tel Aviv. The news continues after this break. You're watching I-24 News. This week on News 24, Israel under attack. News 24 in Spanish brings the analysis and the information of the events of the war, Iron Spades. Exclusive interviews and reports from the war zone. The reaction of Spanish-speaking countries. News 24, the only medium in Spanish that keeps you informed and connected with the Latin community in Israel. News 24, only on I-24 News. Lewington at the I-24 News headquarters in Tel Aviv. Welcome to our viewers around the world. We begin with breaking news. Iranian-backed militias have attacked American troops more than 170 times. And America has made good on its promise to respond. Overnight, B-1 bombers bombed at least seven locations. At least 85 targets in both Syria and Western Iraq. More than 125 precision munitions were dropped. We'll have live team coverage of that story. As for the war itself, there is a report in the Wall Street Journal that there is internal strife within Hamas holding up any acceptance of a cease-fire deal. Yahya Simwar is said to want a six-week halt so that they can regroup Hamas. But the Politburo head, Ismail Hania, is pushing for a permanent cease-fire that still keeps Hamas in power with international guarantees and a plan to rebuild Gaza. Now, this comes as Hamas and Islamic Jihad have issued a joint statement last night saying that any hostage deal must include complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and a permanent cease-fire. Meanwhile, Algeria has pushed for a UN resolution to call for an immediate cease-fire. The Americans say this resolution could put all sensitive negotiations in jeopardy. The United States could veto any resolution that's brought in front of this UN. Now, going back to the United States, President Joe Biden says the action taken against Iranian-backed militias is just the beginning. Quoting now, it will continue at times and places of our choosing. Let's go live now. We're team coverage of this story. I-24 News Correspondent Jonathan Regev has the very latest. There's some information that's coming in in the last few minutes. Yes, the U.S. releasing... not the U.S., but reports about some of the attacks that were the targets of that American strike overnight, especially the Iraqi-Khizballah movement, which is not the same Khizballah that we hear, that we know from Lebanon, but of course, both with very close ties to Iran, the Iraqi-Khizballah responsible for some of the attacks on American assets in the region. We're hearing reports of possible six people killed in those attacks. Let's remember another thing. The U.S. did not really surprise anyone by attacking last night. They said in advance that they're going to attack, that they're going to strike. There were reports of the B-1 bombers leaving airfields in England way before the attacks came. So there were plenty of opportunities for people at least to leave those places where they thought that the U.S. would strike. That is why we're not hearing, despite the very high number of attacks, we're not hearing of a lot of people being killed. What we do see, at least from the images, is quite a lot of damage. Many of these places damaged. Not so many people killed or injured. Another interesting aspect. Again, this is a report. No confirmation. I don't know if we will hear any confirmation about the possibility also that there were jets of the Jordanian Air Force participating also in the attack. Let's remember one thing. Those three American servicemen were killed in Jordan. Maybe this is the Jordanian way to express sympathy and perhaps support for the United States on this issue. Let's talk a little bit about the fact that the bases that are in Jordan, Jordan gets under attack from these Iranian-backed militias all the time? Yes, because American forces are attacked all the time. There are American forces stationed in northern Jordan, very close to the border with Syria. The triangle of borders, Syria, Iraq and Jordan is a place where not many, but there are quite a few American installations with American servicemen. One of them was the site of that attack about a week ago, where three Americans were killed. Yes, and those forces are coming under attack. Most of the time, the attacks on American servicemen happen usually in Syrian territory, but sometimes they spill over to Jordan and this was one of those cases. Great. Jonathan, you're on the border now with Gaza. We're now at day 120 of the war in Gaza. There's updated overnight as to some situations. The IDF is still attacking hard in the southern part of Gaza. I should say the central part of Gaza. Yes, all the time if we're speaking of the central part of Gaza we're speaking of refugee camps such as Nusirat in the area of Deir el-Balach and these are places that the army is now concentrating on. If we're speaking of the northern Gaza Strip then there's not so much army presence but constant operations the army comes in and goes out is similar a bit to what we see in the West Bank, but further south especially in that area of the central Gaza Strip which you mentioned, and further south the area of Hanunah's constant Israeli activity. Great, Jonathan Regev getting us up to speed from the southern part of Israel on the border with Gaza. Thanks so much for joining us. We're going to continue on that note. With Rafael Leroshami, the former Senior Intelligence Officer for the IDF, Rafael thanks again for joining us. That report in the Wall Street Journal today that says that there's a dispute between Hania on one side, Sinwar on the other. Sinwar saying, no, no, no, we should do it six weeks true so that I can bring, I can restock Hamas and the others outside of Gaza saying no, we should go for permanent ceasefire. What do you make of this internal battle? So my first reaction by experience is that it's staged. Staged? Of course we've seen this all the years so through the years between the Islamic jihad and the Hamas like arguing and when the Islamic jihad was attacking Israel the Hamas said, please don't like they don't can hold the Islamic jihad. This is the same. The bargaining position here being that it's now a division of labor in the negotiation and the people in Doha are going to put the bar very high which exempts Mr. Sinwar for being the one who's blocking the negotiations. Mr. Sinwar is like shown as more supple trying to find a solution and look, if you don't find a solution then you'll have to deal with the Doha guys who are so tough and don't want to compromise. All this is a show. Believe me, there are very many points of dissent between the people in Doha and the people in Gaza they've always been as to the strategy. For instance, Mr. would gladly by now abandon the military branch of Hamas and just consider a political future for the Hamas movement. They see that's getting them nowhere. Mr. Sinwar on the other hand comes from the military branch into the political arena and he is a true believer of military action and terrorism. But when it comes to the outside world and to negotiating with the Qatar, with the Americans then they are putting on this show, this play. They're trying also to hide their panic because why do they ask for a ceasefire? They're begging for it. They're begging for it because they see they're losing. That's obvious and today in Hanyun is every hour that passes by, every day that passes by gives the Israeli much more power leverage for the negotiations because they're getting closer and closer to Mr. Sinwar and to the high command of the Hamas. So time is actually playing in our favor, not in their favor but of course it's playing also in the complete total and that's the tragedy, this favor of the hostages because unfortunately the way they are treated, every day that goes by is dangerous for their very lives. So let me make sure I got what you're saying correct. You're saying that the idea of putting down this discussion of discord within Hamas is good cop bad cop. Absolutely. It's absolutely staged. I've seen it in my job many, many times. I don't think it's fooling anybody. I don't think the Americans are fooled by it. It's all a game. In any case today there is still this division of labor but it's also two powers really in the Hamas and Mr. Sinois has reinforced his position very much. He's today seen as the leader of the Hamas. If there is some resentment from some Gazan people towards Hamas it's first towards the ones that they say lives in palaces, palaces hotels in Doha and then to also the local branch of the Mr. Sinois branch because it's brought all this catastrophe upon them but really their main resentment is so today Mr. Sinois is in a better position than Mr. Annier is I think more popular when you speak in the west bank of growing support for Hamas is support for the terrorist Hamas not support for the Doha So who does Israel deal with? Who does Israel if you're going to play good cop back who's calling the shots? Sinois calling the shots because he's there on the ground. I mean he can obey or not obey the commands of the people he can do as he pleases. The question is who will get the check the next check from Iran? If there is a split a real split which I don't believe there is but a real split between the two different parties I believe the Iranians will give the check to Sinois not to Annier. So one of the aspects of this Wall Street Journal report is that there's a disagreement whether it's staged or not there's a disagreement as to where a dispute is going to take place whether they stay in power or they don't stay in power and that seems to be an issue of discord whether or not that Hamas gets to live another day. Yes after the second months of the war the political branch in Doha proposed to Mr. Sinois to lay down the weapons and to consider a fusion with the Palestinian autonomy as I said no more military survival by mixing at first with the Palestinian autonomy then having elections in the vague hope that they wouldn't win these elections and it's possible and that's it and that's how they would survive and no need to have this war going on and then they would recuperate Gaza as the controller of the Palestinian autonomy. So this was on the table that was not staged and it was on the table Mr. Annier proposed that to Mr. Sinois as I said that there are disagreements between the two branches they do exist but on that particular point I am sure it's staged. Now you talk about the rings circling around Qanunis and then it's getting closer and closer and closer. While all of these fights whether at the stage or not whether there's fights here in the Israeli side or whether there's fights on the Hamas side the war continues the idea that they're still continuing and it's an important thing that everyone should not forget. Not only it continues it continues with a very very high intensity with very fast progress we're dismantling many units of the Hamas we are close to getting a result that's similar to what we obtained in the north it's a very difficult job but they are fighting very very hard the Americans are asking us to lower the intensity of the fighting we have lowered it in some places in Qanunis it's exactly the country we're intensifying even more and as I said the military pressure is still what we believe and in a case the Minister of Defense Mr Gallant has said time and again he believes in the efficiency of that military pressure some people tend to disagree because we still don't have hostages liberated but on the other hand we do not see any other solution nothing else is working you know we've been speaking for days of this deal that's on the table but this deal it can be on the table for another month we don't know we don't even know if it will bring some liberation of some hostages even. Well I'm going to have you hold on for one second let me go back to our top story we're continuing our I-24 news coverage of that top story America launched airstrikes in Iraq and Syria targeting Iranian-backed militants this comes after President Biden personally went to salute three soldiers who were killed by a drone strike Jen Sullivan has more to say. Under dreary skies in Delaware the remains of three U.S. soldiers killed earlier this week returned to U.S. soil Friday Sergeant William Rivers and two army specialists who were posthumously promoted to the rank of sergeant Kennedy Sanders and Breonna Moffitt were killed Sunday following a drone strike in Jordan U.S. officials blaming Iran-backed militants days before the remains returned home President Joe Biden calling the U.S. soldiers to attack the U.S. soldiers who were grieving families to express his deepest condolences I wish I didn't have to make this call Kennedy Sanders mother breaking down on the call one percent one percent of all these kids are the ones that they take care of ninety nine percent of us Friday the three soldiers were honored in what's known as a more than 85 targets linked to Iran-backed militias in Iraq and Syria we need to make clear coming after U.S. soldiers is unacceptable I think this is an important first step there are fears that any action the U.S. takes could further impact the Israel Hamas war and broad intentions it has sparked in the Middle East what concerns me the most is how many different ways this region could completely erupt into full-scale war in the week president Biden cautiously saying this I don't think we need a wider war in the Middle East Friday night the president now saying the U.S. will continue its response at quote times in places of our choosing I'm Jen Sullivan reporting I'm joined now in studio by Mark Shulman editor in chief of history central he's also a news we call him this mark before I get to you let me just we're getting word into that I just want everyone here to take a listen to it to go ahead plate before whenever the Americans wanted to talk to Iran like any other country they said that the military option is on the table now you do not hear these words anymore they even say we have no intention of any conflict with Iran this is the power of our religious people who are always present which are considered so important for our country armed we've said many times we will not initiate any war but if anyone wants to bully us Iran will respond firmly Mark we have a lot to unpack here so let's start with the first what what took the Americans so long I think they need to set it up they want to do it properly and figure out exactly what to do you know you don't want to make it you respond from the hip without planning what you're going to do I also think there's a question of whether the U.S. can operate in cloudy and rainy whether it's a lot easier and you can be more careful when you're operating in clear skies and be sure you're hitting the targets so I think those are the two issues I don't think the time made any real difference in the sense that okay I know the House majority leader complained why did he wait so long right but that's just ridiculous frankly well also the Senate the Republican senators are basically to the lead Republican in the Senate yeah that's true I mean listen the reality is this the Iranian regime itself but the United States at this point does not want to go to war with Iran they lost that choice when they invited Iraq instead of Iran way back when so right now the question is how do you give a strong enough response to deter and not get into a full scale war with Iran now sitting in Israel I'm sure we'd be happy they've got into full scale war with Iran the consequences right now and of course president Biden doesn't need the price of oil to go to who knows what it was a full scale war with Iran at the moment but was it is there another way to do to kind of tell Iran hey we're on to you and maybe it's not a military action is there a different way our sanctions use they've added additional sanctions yesterday there's also a report there was a large-scale cyber attack against Iran by the Iran okay look the long-term goal has to be in the America has taken the eye off the prize for all these last years to destabilizing the Iranian regime there is no question the Iranian regime from the moment it took power to today sees the United States as the major enemy in the world and sees us as the minor enemy in the world and as long as that regime is in power the Middle East is going to remain in the turmoil that it is propelled But then what you're suggesting is that what the US needs to do is sort of start up an alliance that says that the US, the Europeans and Saudi Arabia, let's say, goes up against Iran, possibly China, possibly Russia. Okay, they were already doing that in a sense that clearly the Saudi Arabians, the United States, the whole idea of Saudi Arabia peace with Israel is based on the same idea of an alliance. The question is an alliance towards what? There are a lot of ways to work against the regime that aren't overt militarily. The United States certainly has done it in all sorts of other places in the world and once did it in Iran in 1954, if we go back in our history. So the reality is they should be putting more effort in that direction. And they need to show, look, they need to show that the American forces can't be hit with impunity and they did that tonight. Now the question is, in advance, the President made it clear and Secretary Blinken made it clear this was going to be not a one-off attack, it was going to be- He's beginning off. He's a start-off. A start-off of what that means. Well, I would assume that means if they get good intelligence of targets that are worth hitting, they're going to try to hit those targets. They're going to try to limit civilian casualties as close to zero as they can. They're even going to try to limit the casualties of the actual Iranians, although quite a number of were killed in this attack from what I understand. But if they see targets that are worth hitting, they'll hit them. I mean, they have the ability to do it relatively quickly. I mean, this time they wanted to make a show. They said, B-1 bombers from the United States, that alone takes a significant number of hours of flying. It's a big, big- The big flight. But it also says something. It says to the Iranians, look, we have B-1 bombers, we have other things. We can hit you whenever we want in a long range with a lot, a lot of bombs. I mean, think about that there was 120 ordinances dropped in that relatively short period of time. And that again- It's a lot. Yes, it again shows the difference between our capabilities and the American capabilities. And it shows that they're able to do that. And they could have done it again. Yeah, they could do it again now. They only use part of their capabilities. So Raphael, in this case, does the American, Judy Americans go to the Israelis and say, you have a list? Do we have a list of people you want to target, of places you want to target that will work on this together? No, the list, they have on both sides and we actually share information. And the list is very long. And what was hit yesterday, night was on the list and picked and chosen according to the policy, meaning to strike as a strong signal without impacting on the Iran-American direct conflict possibility. I think both sides have expressed the fact that they're not at this point anywhere interested in that. The Americans applied what we call the knock-knock tactic, like announcing the bombers of taking off. Right, exactly. That's where I'm getting at. The fact that the IDF does it differently. The IDF does it dark of night, secret, in Syria or in the middle of the day, depending on what it is, it's different than the American way of doing things. But don't forget, the IDF doesn't take responsibility also. Oh, OK. Let's go for that. That's a big, big factor. We don't take responsibility. We supposedly do. But the Americans wanted to take responsibility. This was a clear statement as much as it was a military act. We do use knock-knock also when we wish to. In this particular case, it was, I think, to avoid the Iranian casualties. It was giving time for any Iranian high-ranking officers to evacuate. To Iraq. Right. They have evacuated most of these important sites in Syria and Iraq, also in fear of the Israeli attacks. They have been ordered to redeploy, to even some of them go back to Iran. What is interesting is the contradiction in the American approach. Because they are doing exactly what they asked us not to do. They said that, like, if we strike the Hezbollah now, that will destabilize the region. This escalation is dangerous. So what are they doing? I mean, attacking very close to Iran organizations such as the Iraqi Hezbollah. That's exactly the same. It might destabilize the region. It might escalate. So I don't think now they're in a position to tell us not to attack the Hezbollah because we are in much more victims of Hezbollah attacks and threats than the Americans have been. I think people said, why did they wait? Should they have waited more or not? We see it. First of all, that these attacks will not deter. Let's be realistic. These attacks are a signal, but they will not deter the proxies of Iran from attacking American bases. They have actually apparently attacked, last night, a couple of them. The deterrence is not there. It's just a strong signal. It is a pity they had to wait. And that's what we said before it happened. They had to wait for Israeli soldiers to be killed to act. They should have acted before. American soldiers. In that respect, it seems as though, Mark, that it's a whack-a-mole. You got this one you hit, you get this one you hit, you get this one you hit. But you don't talk from a larger strategic global perspective. Right. Well, there goes isn't a problem. I mentioned a moment ago. This regime has to go somehow. Since they came to power, they've targeted America in one way or another. They've targeted Israel in one way or another. And I don't think there's the dimest drop, so to speak, to understand that there's no way of ultimately getting along with this regime in Tehran. And ultimately, that has to be the goal. It really can't be done militarily unless it's not ready for another war in the Middle East. People don't understand how tired Americans are of war. They can do it this way. All Americans applaud this. No loss of life on the American. I mean, there was losses on the ground. The attack itself was pretty much risk-free from the American standpoint. No one was going to die. It was going to down to be one bomber. And so this was a way of doing it with limited risks to the United States. The key question is, what is going to be the follow-up? And are they going to follow up on a regular basis? Now, at Wacamo, it's true. But America has the capability of every time they pick up their head of knocking it down again. It's not a solution. There was a lot of discussion in an earlier hour here at I-24 News about the fact that the American forces are stretched thin. They're stretched thin between, but depleted from Afghanistan. You may mention the fact that Americans doesn't want to go back to war. Europeans are stuck with Ukraine. How do you handle this alliance, this axis that you up against? I don't think American forces are stretched thin. What's a stretched thin is ammunition, missiles, and all of those sort of things, in other words, between the amount that we've consumed, the amount the Ukrainians need in their consuming. But we're no longer fighting ground wars like we used to in the old days. Except we used a tremendous amount of ammunition in Gaza. A tremendous amount. Technically, we're about to run out of tank ammunition. I don't even understand that. American munitions you're talking about are Israeli munitions. It's real munitions we got from America. We'll get more from America. I just want to make sure we clarify that. Israel used a tremendous amount of munitions in Gaza. They had been replenished from the United States. The Ukrainians were getting a tremendous amount of munitions from Europe and the United States. And they're out using the production capabilities of both the United States and Europe. The United States is spending a tremendous amount of money right now in building up production capability. But that takes a year. So it stretches the ability to fight in terms of missiles and gun and ammunition and artillery shells and all those sort of things. They're not stretched in terms of forces. Don't forget, American forces are not involved in any combat anyways in the world. There's a question of the number of carrier task force that exists. I believe the Ford went back, not because of a strategic decision. The Ford is a troubled ship, and I think it had a return because of its own troubles. So the United States is down one carrier and doesn't have enough carriers right now. So it's a bit of an effort. And there's a world right now that's coming. Yeah, but you have Russians and Chinese that have like carrier ships all over the world, much more than the US does if they combine the two together. No, I mean, in terms of Navy, the US still has a bigger Navy than all of them together. Bluewater Navy. Bluewater Navy. In the United States, there is no other Bluewater Navy in the world right now. So the United States has those capabilities. But how much do you want to use them? And again, America is tired of war. So you've got to figure out how to do this with the least abilities, the least use of troops. And that's such a challenge that's very, very difficult. Afghanistan ended for many reasons. But one of them was the fact the American people and America was tired of fighting a war that seems to be a stalemate. Speaking of the war, we are day 120 of the war. This is the longest war Israel has fought since the War of Independence in 1948. Even then, it was divided in periods. In actual warfare, this is longer at this point. I'm going to go to Mark Shulman, Newsweek columnist, and also the editor-in-chief of the History Central. Thanks so much. And Rafael Urochami, always former intelligence officer for the idea. Thank you both for joining us again in this studio. You can get the very latest here on I-24 News on TV, streaming and online, and on the I-24 News app. I'm Albert Lewitson reporting from Tel Aviv. The news continues after this break. This Saturday, I-24 News marks International Holocaust Remembrance Day. At 11 AM, a special premiere broadcast of the movie Journey of Hope, which recalls the heart-wrenching story of kinder transport survivors. And at 6 PM Israel time, join Ellie Hülkenberg for a special broadcast from Yad Vashem, with three generations of Holocaust survivors, and those who escaped the October 7 massacre, bridging the past and the present. This Saturday, only on I-24 News. I'm Albert Lewitson at the I-24 News headquarters in Tel Aviv. Welcome to our viewers around the world. We begin with breaking news. Iranian-backed militias have attacked American troops more than 170 times, and America has made good on its promise to respond. Overnight, B-1 bombers bombed at least seven locations. At least 85 targets in both Syria and Western Iraq, more than 125 precision munitions were dropped. We'll have live team coverage of that story. As for the war itself, there is a report in the Wall Street Journal that there is internal strife within Hamas, holding up any acceptance of a ceasefire deal. Yahya Sinwar is said to want a six-week halt so that they can regroup Hamas. But the Politburo head, Ismail Hania, is pushing for a permanent ceasefire that still keeps Hamas in power with international guarantees and a plan to rebuild Gaza. Now, this comes as Hamas and Islamic Jihad have issued a joint statement last night saying that any hostage deal must include complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and a permanent ceasefire. Meanwhile, Algeria has pushed for a UN resolution to call for an immediate ceasefire. The Americans say this resolution could put all sensitive negotiations in jeopardy. The United States could veto any resolution that's brought in front of this UN. Now, going back to the United States, President Joe Biden says the action taken against Iranian-backed militias is just the beginning. Quoting now, it will continue at times and places of our choosing. Let's go live now. We're team coverage of this story. I-24 News Correspondent Jonathan Regev has the very latest. Jonathan, I hear there's some information that's coming in the last few minutes. Yes, the U.S. releasing, not the U.S., but reports about some of the attacks that were the targets of that American strike overnight, especially the Iraqi-Khizballah movement, which is not the same khizballah that we hear, that we know from Lebanon, but of course, both with very close ties to Iran, the Iraqi-Khizballah responsible for some of the attacks on American assets in the region were hearing reports of possible six people killed in those attacks. And let's remember another thing. The U.S. did not really surprise anyone by attacking last night. They said in advance that they're going to attack, that they're going to strike. There were reports of the B-1 bombers leaving airfields in England way before the attacks came. So there were plenty of opportunities for people, at least, to leave those places where they thought that the U.S. would strike. That is why we're not hearing, despite the very high number of attacks, we're not hearing of a lot of people being killed. What we do see, at least from the images, is quite a lot of damage. Many of these places damaged. Not so many people killed or injured. Another interesting aspect, and again, this is a report, no confirmation. I don't know if we'll hear any confirmation. But the possibility also that there were jets of the Jordanian Air Force participating also in the attack. Let's remember one thing. Those three American servicemen were killed in Jordan. Maybe this is the Jordanian way to express sympathy and perhaps support for the United States on this issue. Yeah, so, Jonathan, let's talk a little bit about the fact that these bases that are in Jordan, Jordan gets under attack from these Iranian-backed militias all the time. Yes, because American forces are attacked all the time. There are American forces stationed in northern Jordan, very close to the border with Syria. The triangle of borders, Syria, Iraq, and Jordan is a place where many, and not many, but there are quite a few American installations with American servicemen. One of them was the site of that attack about a week ago where three Americans were killed. Yes, and those forces are coming under attack. Most of the time, the attacks on American servicemen happen usually in Syrian territory, but sometimes they spill over to Jordan and this was one of those cases. Great, Jonathan, you're on the border now with Gaza. We're now at day 120 of the war in Gaza. There's updated overnight as to some situations. The IDF is still attacking hard in the southern part of Gaza, I should say the central part of Gaza. Yes, all the time, if we're speaking of the central part of Gaza, we're speaking of refugee camps, such as Nusirat, the area of Deir el-Balach, and these are places that the army is now concentrating on. If we're speaking of the northern Gaza Strip, then there's not so much army presence, but constant operations. The army comes in and goes out, similar a bit to what we see in the West Bank, but further south, especially in that area of the central Gaza Strip, which you mentioned, and further south, the area of Hanyunis, constant Israeli activity. Great, Jonathan Regev, we're getting this up to speed from the southern part of Israel on the border with Gaza. Thanks so much for joining us. We're gonna continue on that note. With Rafael Linochalmi, the former senior intelligence officer for the IDF, Rafael, thanks again for joining us. That report in the Wall Street Journal today that says that there's a dispute between Hania on one side, Sinwar on the other. Sinwar saying, no, no, no, we should do it. It's six weeks, it's true, so that I can bring, I can restock Hamas and the others outside of Gaza saying, no, we should go for permanent ceasefire. What do you make of this internal battle? So my first reaction by experience is that it's staged. Staged? Of course, we've seen this all the years, so through the years between the Islamic Jihad and the Hamas, arguing and when the Islamic Jihad was attacking Israel, the Hamas said, please don't, like they can't hold the Islamic Jihad. This is the same. The bargaining position here being that it's now a division of labor in the negotiation and the people in Doha are gonna put the bar very high, which exempts Mr. Sinwar from being the one who's like blocking the negotiations. Mr. Sinwar is like shown as more supple, trying to find a solution and look, if you don't find a solution, then you'll have to deal with the Doha guys who are so tough and they don't want to compromise. All this is a show. Believe me, there are very many points of dissent between the people in Doha and the people in Gaza. They've always been, as to the strategy, for instance, Mr. Haniye would gladly by now abandon the military branch of Hamas and just consider a political future for the Hamas movement. They see that's getting them nowhere. Mr. Sinwar, on the other hand, comes from the military branch into the political arena and he's a true believer of military action and terrorism. That is true, but when it comes to the outside world and to negotiating with the Qatar, with the Americans, then they are putting on this show, this play. They're trying also to hide their panic because why do they ask for a ceasefire? They're begging for it. They're begging for it because they see they're losing. That's obvious. And today in Haniye is every hour that passes by, every day that passes by, gives the Israeli much more power leverage for the negotiations because they're getting closer and closer to Mr. Sinwar and to the high command of the Hamas. So time is actually playing in our favor, not in their favor, but of course, it's playing also in the complete total and that's the tragedy, this favor of the hostages because unfortunately, the way they are treated, every day that goes by is dangerous for their very lives. So let me make sure I got what you're saying correct. You're saying that the idea with what is happening now, this discussion of discord within Hamas is good cop, bad cop. Absolutely. It's absolutely staged. I've seen it in my job many, many times. I don't think it's fooling anybody. I don't think the Americans are fooled by it. It's all a game. In any case, today, there is still this division of labor, but it's also two powers really in the Hamas and Mr. Sinwar has reinforced his position very much. He's today seen as the leader of the Hamas if there is some resentment from some Gazan people towards Hamas, it's first towards the ones that they say lives in palaces, palaces, hotels in Doha and then to also the local branch of the Mr. Sinwar's branch because it's brought all this catastrophe upon them, but really their main resentment is so today Mr. Sinwar is in a better position than Mr. Hanye is I think more popular when you speak in the West Bank of growing support for Hamas. It's support for the terrorist Hamas, not support for the Doha. So who does Israel deal with? Who does Israel, if you're gonna play good cop back club, who's calling the shots? Well, Sinwar is calling the shots because he's there on the ground. I mean, he can obey or not obey the commands of the people in Doha. He can do as he pleases. The question is who will get the check, the next check for Miram? If there is a split, a real split, which I don't believe there is, but a real split between the two different parties, I believe the Iranians will give the check to Sinwar not to Hanye. So one of the aspects of this Wall Street Journal report is that there's a disagreement whether it's staged or not. There's a disagreement as to where Hamas leadership stays, whether they stay in power or they don't stay in power. And that seems to be an issue of discord, whether or not that Hamas gets to live another day. Yes, after the second months of the war, the political branch in Doha proposed to Mr. Sinwar to lay down the weapons and to consider a fusion with the Palestinian autonomy. As I said, no more military branch, just political survival by mixing at first with the Palestinian autonomy, then having elections in the vague hope that they will win these elections and it's possible. And that's it, and that's how they would survive and no need to have this war going on. And then they would recuperate Gaza as the controller of the Palestinian autonomy. So this was on the table, that was not staged and it was on the table. Mr. Hanye proposed that to Mr. Sinwar, who refused. As I said, there are disagreements between the two branches, they do exist. But on that particular point, I am sure it's staged. Now you talk about the ring circling around Qanunis and then it's getting closer and closer and closer. While all of these fights, whether they're at the stage or not, whether there's fights here in the Israeli side or whether there's fights on the Hamas side, the war continues. The idea that there's still continuing battles in Qanunis is an important thing that everyone should not forget. Not only it continues, it continues with a very, very high intensity, with very fast progress, through a dismantling many units of the Hamas. We are close to getting a result that's similar to what we obtained in the North. It's a very difficult job, but they are fighting very, very hard. The Americans are asking us to lower the intensity of the fighting. We have lowered it in some places in Qanunis. It's exactly the country we're intensifying even more. And as I said, the military pressure is still what we believe. And in any case, the Minister of Defense, Mr. Gallant, has said time and again, he believes in the efficiency of that military pressure. Some people tend to disagree because we still don't have hostages liberated, but on the other hand, we do not see any other solution. Nothing else is working. We've been speaking for days of this deal that's on the table, but this deal can be on the table for another month. We don't know, we don't even know if it will bring some liberation of some hostages even. Rafa, I'm gonna have you hold on for one second. Let me go back to our top story. We're continuing our I-24 news coverage of that top story. America launched airstrikes in Iraq and Syria targeting Iranian-backed militants. This comes after President Biden personally went to salute three soldiers who were killed by a drone strike. Jen Sullivan has more. Under dreary skies in Delaware, the remains of three U.S. soldiers killed earlier this week returned to U.S. Soil Friday. Sergeant William Rivers and two Army specialists who were posthumously promoted to the rank of sergeant, Kennedy Sanders and Breonna Moffatt were killed Sunday following a drone strike in Jordan. U.S. officials blaming Iran-backed militants. These before the remains returned home, President Joe Biden calling the grieving families to express his deepest condolences. I wish I didn't have to make this call. Kennedy Sanders' mother breaking down on the call. One percent, one percent of all these kids are the ones that take care of 99% of us. Friday, the three soldiers were honored in what's known as a dignified transfer. Just hours after their remains came home, the U.S. retaliating, striking more than 85 targets linked to Iran-backed militias in Iraq and Syria. We need to make clear coming after U.S. soldiers is unacceptable. I think this is an important first step. There are fears that any action the U.S. takes could further impact the Israel-Hamas war and broad intentions that has sparked in the Middle East. What concerns me the most is how many different ways this region could completely erupt into full-scale war. Earlier in the week, President Biden cautiously saying this. I don't think we need a wider war in the Middle East. Friday night, the president now saying the U.S. will continue its response at, quote, times and places of our choosing. I'm Jen Sullivan reporting. I'm joined now in studio by Mark Shulman, Editor-in-Chief of History Central. He's also a Newsweek columnist. Mark, before I get to you, let me just, we're getting word into that 24-day desk that Iran's President, Abraham Raisi, has responded. I just want everyone here to take a listen to it to go ahead and play it. Before, whenever the Americans wanted to talk to Iran, like any other country, they said that the military option is on the table. Now, you do not hear these words anymore. They even say we have no intention of any conflict with Iran. This is the power of our religious people who are always present, which are considered so important for our country. Our armed forces are powerful and are always present. We've said many times, we will not initiate any war, but if anyone wants to bully us, Iran will respond firmly. Mark, we have a lot to unpack here. So let's start with the first. What took the Americans so long? I think they need to set it up. They want to do it properly and figure out exactly what to do. You don't want to make it respond from the hip without planning what you're going to do. I also think there's a question of weather from what I understand as well. They want to clear weather because although the U.S. can operate in cloudy and rainy weather, it's a lot easier and you can be more careful when you're operating in clear skies and be sure you're hitting the targets. So I think those are the two issues. I don't think the time made any real difference in the sense that, okay, I know the House Majority Leader complained, why did he wait so long? Right, but that's just ridiculous, frankly. Well, also the Senate, the Republican senators are basically saying, not only did he wait so long, but it seems like this was just a slap on the wrist and not a punch in the nose, according to the lead Republican in the Senate. Yeah, that's true. I mean, listen, the reality is it's the Iranian regime itself, but the United States at this point does not want to go to war with Iran. They lost that choice when they invited Iraq instead of Iran way back when. So right now the question is, how do you give a strong enough response to deter and not get into a full-scale war with Iran? Now, sitting in Israel, I'm sure we'd be happy if they got into a full-scale war with Iran, but we really don't want the consequences. America doesn't need the consequences right now. And of course, President Biden doesn't need the price of oil to go to who knows what if there was a full-scale war with Iran at the moment. But is there another way to kind of tell Iran, hey, we're on to you and maybe it's non-military action? Is there a different way? Are sanctions used? They added additional sanctions yesterday. There's also a report there was a large-scale cyber attack against Iran by the United States in the hours before this attack. So I don't know how much damage it did, but it supposedly hit infrastructures in Iran as well. Look, the long-term goal has to be, and America has taken the eye off the prize all these last years, to destabilizing the Iranian regime. There is no question the Iranian regime, from the moment it took power to today, sees the United States as the major enemy in the world and sees us as the minor enemy in the world. And as long as that regime is in power, the Middle East is going to remain in the turmoil that it is propelled by their views combined with traditional Iranian imperialism. But then what you're suggesting is that what the US needs to do is sort of start up an alliance that says that the US, the Europeans and Saudi Arabia, let's say, goes up against Iran, possibly China, possibly Russia. Okay, but they were already doing that in a sense that clearly the Saudi Arabians, the United States, the whole idea of Saudi Arabia peace with Israel is based on the same idea of an alliance. The question is an alliance towards what? There are a lot of ways to work against the regime that aren't overt militarily. The United States certainly has done it in all sorts of other places in the world and once did it in Iran in 1954 if we go back in our history. So the reality is they should be putting more effort in that direction. And they need to show, look, they need to show that the American forces can't be hit with impunity and they did that tonight. Now the question is, in advance, the President made it clear and Secretary Blinken made it clear this was gonna be not a one-off attack. It's gonna be- Right, beginning of. He's the start of. Start of what that means. Well, I would assume that means if they get good intelligence of targets that are worth hitting, they're gonna try to hit those targets. They're gonna try to limit civilian casualties to as close to zero as they can. They're even gonna try to limit the casualties of the actual Iranians so quite a number were killed in this attack from what I understand. But if they see targets that are worth hitting, they'll hit them. I mean, they have the ability to do it relatively quickly. I mean, this time they wanted to make a show. They sent B-1 bombers from the United States. That alone takes a significant number of hours of flying. It's a big, big- The big flight. But it also says something. It says to the Iranians, look, we have B-1 bombers. We have other things. We can hit you whenever we want in a long range with a lot, a lot of bombs. I mean, think about that. There was 120 ordinances dropped in that relatively short period of time. And that again shows the difference between our capabilities and the American capabilities. And it shows that they're able to do that. And they could have done it again. They could do it again now. They only use part of their capabilities. So Rafael, in this case, does the American, Judy Americans go to the Israelis and say, you have a list? Do we have a list of people you want to target, of places you want to target, that we'll work on this together? At least they have on both sides who actually share information. And the list is very long. And what was hit yesterday, night was on the list and picked and chosen according to the policy, meaning to strike as a strong signal without impacting on the Iran-American direct conflict possibility. I think both sides have expressed the fact that they're not, at this point, anywhere interested in that. The Americans applied what we call the knock-knock tactic, you know, like announcing the bombers off, taking off. Right, exactly. That's what I'm getting at. The fact that the IDF does it differently. The IDF does it dark of night, secret, in Syria or in the middle of the day, depending on what it is. It's different than the American way of doing things. Well, don't forget, the IDF doesn't take responsibility also. Oh, okay, let's go for that. That's a big, big fact that we don't take responsibility for what we supposedly do. But the Americans wanted to take responsibility. This was a clear statement as much as it was a military act. Well, we do use knock-knock also when we wish to. In this particular case, it was, I think, to avoid the Iranian casualties. It was giving time for any Iranian high-ranking officers to evacuate. Right. They have evacuated most of these important sites in Syria and Iraq, also in fear of Israeli attacks. They've been ordered to redeploy, to even some of them go back to Iran. What is interesting is the contradiction in the American approach because they are doing exactly what they asked us not to do. They said that if we strike the Hezbollah now, that will destabilize the region. This escalation is dangerous. So what are they doing? I mean, attacking very close to Iran, organizations such as the Iraqi Hezbollah. That's exactly the same. It might destabilize the region. It might escalate. So I don't think now they're in a position to tell us not to attack the Hezbollah because we are in much more victims of Hezbollah attacks and threats than the Americans have been. I think people said, why did they wait? Should they have waited more or not? We see it, first of all, that these attacks will not deter. Let's be realistic. These attacks are a signal, but they will not deter the proxies of Iran from attacking American bases. They have actually apparently attacked last night a couple of them. The terrorist is not there. It's just a strong signal. It is a pity they had to wait and that's what we said before it happened. They had to wait for Israeli soldiers to be killed to act. They should have acted before. American soldiers, in that respect. It seems to note, Mark, that it's whack-a-mole. You got this one you hit, and you get this one you hit, you get this one you hit, but you don't talk from a larger, strategic, global perspective. Right, well, there goes isn't a problem. I mentioned a moment ago, this regime has to go somehow. Since they came to power, they've targeted America in one way or another, and they've targeted Israel in one way or another. And I don't think the dime has dropped, so to speak, to understand that there's no way of ultimately getting along with this regime in Tehran. And ultimately, that has to be the goal. Now, it really can't be done militarily unless the United States is not ready for another war in the Middle East. People don't understand how tired Americans are of war. They can do it this way. All Americans applaud this, no loss of life on the American. I mean, there was loss on the ground, but the attack itself was pretty much risk-free from the American standpoint. No one was gonna die, it was gonna die on a B1 bomber. And so this was a way of doing it with limited risks to the United States. The key question is, what is gonna be the follow-up? And are they gonna follow-up on a regular basis? Now, Wakamo, it's true, but America has the capability of every time they pick up their head of knocking it down again. It's not a solution. And there is- There was a lot of discussion in an earlier hour here at I-24 News about the fact that the American forces are stretched thin. They're stretched thin between, but depleted from Afghanistan. You may mention the fact that Americans always wanna go back to war. The Europeans are stuck with Ukraine. How do you handle this alliance, this axis that you- I don't think American forces are stretched thin. What's stretched thin is ammunition, missiles, and all of those sort of things. In other words, between the amount that we've consumed, the amount the Ukrainians need in their consuming. But we're no longer fighting ground wars like we used to in the old days. Except we used a tremendous amount of ammunition in Gaza, a tremendous amount. Like we were about to run out of tank ammunition. I don't even understand that. The American munitions you're talking about, or Israeli munitions. Israeli munitions, we got from America. We'll get more from America. I just wanna make sure we clarify. Israel use a tremendous amount of munitions in Gaza. They have been replenished from the United States. The Ukrainians were getting tremendous amount of munitions from Europe and the United States. And they're out using the production capabilities of both the United States and Europe. And the United States is spending a tremendous amount of money right now and building up production capability. But that takes a year. So what stretches the ability to fight in terms of missiles and gun and ammunition and artillery shells and all those sort of things? They're not stretched in terms of forces. Don't forget, American forces are not involved in any combat anyways in the world. There's this question of the number of carrier task force that exists. I believe the Ford went back not because of a strategic decision. The Ford is a troubled ship. And I think it had a return because of its own troubles. So the United States is down one carrier and doesn't have enough carriers right now. So it's a bit of an effort. And there's a world right now that's covered. Yeah, but you have Russians and Chinese that have like carrier ships all over the world, much more than US does, if they combine the two together. No, I mean, in terms of Navy, the US still has a bigger Navy than all of them together. Blue Water Navy. Blue Water Navy. The Blue Navy of the United States, there is no other Blue Water Navy in the world right now. So the United States has those capabilities, but how much do you want to use them? And again, America is tired of war. So you've got to figure out how to do this with the least capabilities, the least use of troops. And that's such a challenge that's very, very difficult. Afghanistan ended for many reasons, but one of them was the fact the American people and America was tired of fighting a war that seems to be a stalemate. Speaking of the war, we are day 120 of the war. This is the longest war Israel has fought since the War of Independence in 1948. Even then, it was divided in periods. An actual warfare, this is longer at this point. I'm going to go to Mark Shulman, the Newsweek columnist, and also the editor-in-chief of the History Central. Thanks so much, and Raphael Yoshami, always former intelligence officer for the idea. Thank you both for joining us again. This should do. You can get the very latest here on I-24 News on TV, streaming, and online, and on the I-24 News app. I'm Albert Lewitson, reporting from Tel Aviv. The news continues after this break. Is in a state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she. As our soldiers are fighting on the front lines, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. This week on News24, Israel under attack. News24 in Spanish brings the analysis and the information of the events of the war, Spades of Iron. Exclusive interviews and reports from the war zone. The reaction of the Spanish-speaking countries. News24, the only medium in Spanish that keeps you informed and connected with the Latin community in Israel. News24, only on I-24 News. A possible hostage deal during this broadcast. Let's keep in mind what those hostages are experiencing and what they have experienced. Take for example, a sister's Daphna and Ella Eliakim, Daphna 15, Ella AJ. They spent 51 days in captivity in Gaza after being kidnapped by Hamas terrorists from their father's home in Kibbutz, Nachalos. Well, Daphna now has spoken out to Israel's Channel 12 news about what happened to her and her family on October 7th and what she experienced in captivity and the difficulties she's had in rediscovering normalcy and adolescence since the return of her and her sister. Let's take a listen. Masha. I went for it. Me, you have to have time for life. It's 65 days that they've been here, adapting to light's new reality since their release from captivity in Gaza. 15-year-old Daphna and 8-year-old Ella getting used to a new house in the city to a reality without Daddy Noam, without his partner, Dikla, and their step-brother, Tomer, who were all murdered on their dark Sabbath. I brought my backpack from Nachalos. There's blood on it, my father's blood here, and on my pencil case. It is, it was Tomer's backpack. Now it's with me. It's pretty, right? Through no choice of their own, they became all our girls. Two sisters kidnapped from their beds to Gaza alone, without mom, without dad, forced to leave behind all that ever made them feel safe. Now they have to try to relearn how to live. What's the hardest part of going back to a routine? That I don't have my father, who used to wake me up for school, so him not being here for that? Tomer and I used to walk to school together every day. Hence the backpack. It's like keeping him with me. I can't talk about it. I'll cry. It's, it's hard. Is it okay if we talk about that Sabbath? Yes. It started in the morning with the sirens, a lot of red alerts, and then a half an hour later, I think maybe an hour they entered the kibbutz. Then my father came into my room with Diklah and Tomer, and put the three of us, myself, Tomer and Ella, under the bed, and told us to be quiet. They came in the house and started shooting, shot the door, and hit my dad in the leg. Then they pulled us from under the bed. They were live streaming it. One of the most memorable videos from the 7th of October is a wicked Facebook Live, the terrorists filmed in Daphne and Ella's home. The video shows father, Noam, wounded in the leg with a shocked and scared Daphne at his side. Ella is sitting on Diklah's knees, Noam's partner. Her son, Tomer, is taken outside by the terrorists. Only a few days later will the full video come out, showing them taking Tomer out for him to knock on neighbors' doors to lure them out. Did you understand where they took him? They said they need a Tomer to go open the doors to the houses so that people would come out. They said he'd be okay, that they wouldn't harm him as long as he didn't try anything. Then the Hamas terrorists took us to our car and drove off. And then some other terrorists shot at our car, thinking we were civilians trying to escape. They shot and killed Diklah. She died instantly. They took us to Gaza. So many people tried to reach us and harm us, so the terrorists took us up to an apartment and kept us there until an ambulance came. What were the days like over there? Difficult. All I could think of was how my family was, my friends, what's happening in Israel, if they got to the whole country, if they destroyed Israel, if they had conquered it. Two weeks before their release, they were moved to the tunnels. There, they met five kidnapped young women who remain in captivity. This is Liri. This is Romy. You were with the four of them together? Yeah, and Emily Damari as well. It was on the third day of releases that their names showed up on the list. Around six o'clock in the evening, wearing long braids, Daphna and Ella could suddenly be seen walking towards the Red Cross' white Jeep. Do you remember the moment of your return? Not really. I thought it was, I thought maybe it was a bluff that I was still in Gaza. 51 days, they were alone in hell. 51 days in which a brave girl became a mother in an instant and now needs to find her way back to being a girl again. Another day, another testimony. Mayani Tyregiv, a brother and sister who were abducted to Gaza by Hamas and were released in the previous deal, met with a group of UN ambassadors visiting them. They were told that they were going to be released and considered visiting Israel. Mia, who was seriously wounded, told her story. Take a listen. They killed babies. They took us out of our beds. They took me with the clothes that I wore to the party. The first day, they ripped it out of me. They literally ripped my clothes out of me. I had nothing. They took my clothes, they took my earrings, they wore it out of my ears all the time. They took my name, they took everything out of me. They told me that they don't care about me. I had to go out. I didn't go nowhere because everywhere I went, the Quran, maybe someone come and shoot me again, maybe someone come and take me again. Captain Rebekah Henrietta-Joana Baruch recently and tragically passed away. But even after her untimely death, she will be saving lives. That is because she asked to donate her organs. Rebekah was a lone soldier who made Aliyah or immigrated from the Netherlands to Israel and chose to serve in the IDF. During her first year of service, Baruch lived at Kibbutz side in the Gaza border area. She then decided to enlist as a combat soldier in completed officer training. Well, I now have the great honor of being joined from the Hague by Robert Baruch, the father of Captain Rebekah Henrietta-Joana Baruch. First and foremost, I salute both you and your daughter. What an unbelievably amazing young lady. Can you tell us a little bit about your beautiful girl and the service that she did in the IDF? It's a story, which over the last few days, I had the opportunity to explore and to find out more about her because as most parents know, children at a certain age, decide not to tell everything about themselves to their parents. I made a parallel. We had a beautiful shiver night here in the Jewish community and I recalled her Batmitspah and I remembered, actually, her Batmitspah was this Parashtah, Parasat Yitro in 2011 and I shared the experience that she walked up onto the Bima and I thought to myself, who is this woman? He had made such a tremendous road at that time and this is an experience that was paralleled with what I learned over the past few weeks. Rebekah, a lot of people came up to me and said, I'm sorry for your loss and in Israel, I said, I'm sorry for yours because Rebekah, when she finished secondary school, chose to move to Israel to live as a Jew between Jews as a fighter, between fighters as an idealist, between idealists. We told all our children that when you see that there is something wrong, it is an invitation to correct it and this is what she did. She said in interviews, it is not a logical step for me to make aliyah. I don't agree with Israel's policies. I don't speak the language. I don't have any relatives but I think this country is going to make the best out of me and this is what she did. She had a beautiful year in Amitina in Steyroth. People from Steyroth know the famous restaurant Humus and China, which was her favorite restaurants. She told herself, Hebrew, on a near native speaking level in a year, she enlisted to the army and then had the opportunity to choose for a combat role and then choose to be an officer and all this because she knows that whenever you have the opportunity to change something that you don't agree with or to strengthen something you do agree with, it's only to take an active role and this is what she did. She started in the 717 unit as she said playing cat and mouse with terrorists and smugglers in the Negev Desert. Then she moved to the 414 units surrounding Gaza and she was responsible for all the bases that held the balloons. She extended her service there and actually was quite, I'm not sure if that's the word. She said that there was a lot of room for improvement there. She wrote proposals at one point and this was well documented. One of the balloons fell down on the wrong side of the border and she did not ask for orders or permission. She went in with a few men and retrieved the balloon. She wrote a proposal for improvement and we know what happened with the proposals for improvement that were done with the intelligence function around Gaza. She left the army in March of 2023 and started preparing her entrance to university. Every Saturday she demonstrated with as tens or hundreds of thousands of other Israelis for democracy and inclusion in Tel Aviv. And then on the 7th of October, when the atrocities happened from Gaza at two o'clock in the afternoon, she applied for service. She sent a message, tell me where I'm needed. Then finally she was drafted on the 11th of October. She went to a base in the north where she was not needed, sorry. And then she went back to the south where she went to the bases where she served until March and she saw with her own eyes what happened to her soldiers and commanders that were, an officer story that she was working with. And this affected her of course, a great deal. Then she was drafted into the Air Force where she was connected to the Iron Dome program. She was severely, severely hit by the terrible murder on Rose Lubin. Who she knew from Kibbutz Saad. During a break, actually at the end of this tenure she had a break and in that break she went to South Africa to lead the summer camp of Habonim. All our children are proud and active members of Habonim Dror, the progressive scientist, the youth movement. She came back on the 1st of January, 2nd of January we brought her back to her base. We were going to pick her up on Friday or she was going to come back on Friday, but on Thursday she called us that she didn't feel well and 24 hours later she was fighting for her life, which was of course a terrible experience and that is why she had so much more in her. She had so much more to offer and it's a great loss. It's a great loss for us as parents which we will take with us the rest of our lives. It is a great loss for the army. It is a great loss for Israel as a whole. We're tremendously proud that she's buried on her heart still and two minutes walk from where two of my great uncles are commemorated who fell in the Second World War and at the Battle of Latun. So it's a terrible sad story of a talent that doesn't fulfill the promise of a potential that is not fulfilled and we love her and we miss her. And we are supported by literally thousands of people and messages and which is amazing. And in the end when I look at it from a bigger perspective, when we were on our heart still there were two graves to the left of her that were yet to be covered and the next day there were three on the other side and it's every parent's fear when their children are in the army and for us living in the Netherlands, not understanding the military, not having been in the military ourselves and of course being surrounded by people who have completely different understandings of what's going on in Israel if I say it mildly. It's a different situation but I must say we are the support from the Air Force, from the army also is tremendous. Robert Baruch, if there's any consolation in this major loss as you mentioned for you, the army, the state of Israel, it's that even after her death she's going to be saving so many lives. I wanna thank you so much for taking the time to be with me here on our breaking edition and just wish you continued strength. And if I could jump through the screen to give you a giant hug, know that I would. Thank you. Thank you, bye-bye. Now until October 7th, the women fighters from the Canine Orchettes Unit, a unit which operates with specially trained dogs, were mainly engaged in locating missing persons and weapons in the West Bank. But since the beginning of the war and after undergoing special training, they have been working alongside their dogs in the heart of the Gaza Strip, proving every day in new why they are integral part of defending Israel. Take a look. You're offy kelevdoram. Good dog. Great. Search. For those who look from the side, it might be difficult to recognize the uniqueness of the team training here in Zikim base. But the expression beneath the face mask shows that this is a unique team of female fighters. For four months now, they have been doing everything possible so that the barking they hear in the training, they will hear in Gaza as well. After their dogs managed to locate explosives or even a live fighter. The Megan squad consists of Canine Orchettes Unit fighters who operate continuously on two levels, locating missing persons among ruins of buildings and finding weapons in the territories. But after October 7th, they underwent special training together with their dogs for fighting inside Gaza. We train at destruction sites, which is something we would not do before. Before October 7th, we focused on closed spaces. The explosions in Gaza are something they're not used to hearing, so they're trained to work under pressure, under intense noise. How do you train for such a thing? We have machines that simulate explosions. We practice at the ranges where the dogs are trained to be under control with shooting in the background. And how is Toby? Toby is like a machine. He knows the job. I trust him with my eyes closed. We worked hard for it. There were moments when he was not easy with the noise of the explosions, so we're trained mainly on that. Like the female fighters themselves, Toby also needed preparation before entering the battlefield. Inside Gaza, the dogs are equipped with earplugs and still it is unlike any activity they have done before. How do you feel about fighting inside Gaza? Is it hard? I was actually really looking forward to it. When you fight with the dog, you ask yourself, how things will go? There are so many concerns. You have to take care of his food, his health. That's a lot on your mind. They are teamed up with the fighting forces in the field and assist in finding Hamas weapons and also in locating casualties and the missing. For example, in the disaster last week in which buildings in the center of the Gaza Strip collapsed on fighters. When you get to a place like this and there are lots of forces, noise, explosions, you send a dog and in the end, it's just you and him. There's silence and you listen to him and as soon as the barking comes, it's an incredible feeling. You're getting crazy. No, that's a hug. Oh, that's a hug. Okay, so you're cute. On October 7th, the fighters found themselves searching for signs that would provide the families of the missing with answers. In one of the activities with luck, he found an object which closed the circle for the family. As soon as I discovered it, it was a feeling of pride and also an understanding of the general situation and its values. Now they are probably on their next mission and while fighting on the battlefield in the Israeli High Court, there are still petitions demanding the IDF allows women on the frontline. It was already said in this war, but we should say it again. This war proved how much female fighters are an integral part in the defense of the country. We are ready for anything, for any task, even if it takes time. That's what we're here for. Is there a sense of pride in being a female fighter? Definitely. It's amazing to see how people are more and more aware that a woman fighter, especially with a dog, is something that is necessarily needed in the field. We're in a situation where the forces specifically require the Girls of Okset's unit and their abilities, because they know the advantages that we bring. Can the war risk Israel at the Eurovision? Unfortunately, it might, but our very own Joe Brown explains what are the chances for Israel to actually get kicked out of the contest. In 2023, Noah Kirel danced away into a respectable third place at the Eurovision Song Contest. However, one year later, Israel is the number one talk of the contest before it has even picked a song, but not for the right reasons. Following the attacks on the 7th of October, Israel became the bookies' favorites, with Pontus thinking they'd recreate Ukraine's success in 2022 following its invasion. But as the death count in Gaza has risen, the chance for sympathy votes at Eurovision has evaporated, leaving in its wake a cloud of anger at Israel's participation. Over 100 artists from Finland called for Israel to be banned from the upcoming contest in Sweden saying, quote, it is not in accordance with our value that a country that commits war crimes and continues a military occupation is given a public stage to polish its image in the name of music. Stop, don't say that it's impossible because I know it's possible. A similar petition was signed by Swedish artists, including by Milena Elman, a former Eurovision contestant and mother of Greta Thunberg. Meanwhile, politicians in Iceland and Sweden have pushed for Israel's disqualification, whilst the UK's entrance signed a petition calling Israel an apartheid state. But despite the growing calls, the European Broadcasting Union has confirmed Israel's participation saying, quote, this is a competition for broadcasters, not for governments, and the Israel Broadcasting Corporation has participated in the competition for 50 years. However, the EBU has been accused of hypocrisy, having banned Russia in 2022 following the Ukrainian invasion. But are they correct or should they ban Israel from Eurovision? Israel has a long history at Eurovision, winning five times and hosting the contest as recently as 2019 with some minor protests, including the Icelandic entry unfurling a Palestinian flag. Eurovision has always claimed to be apolitical and condemned the Icelandic actions, but the apolitical claims were tested in 2022 following the Russian invasion of Ukraine. This is not the first time a Russian invasion has caused the Eurovision bosses a headache. Russia hosted the competition in 2009 on the back of the invasion of Georgia with the latter's attempted entry to the contest titled, We Don't Wanna Put In, featuring a not-so-subtle dig at the Russian president. The song was banned by the EBU for its political message. Fast forward to 2022. Initially, the EBU wanted to be true to its rules, keeping Russia's involvement so as not to take a stance. But due to threats of withdrawal from at least nine broadcasters, it was decided that Russia would not enter the contest. This suggests the only way for Israel to be banned from the contest is if enough countries threaten to withdraw. But will they? The answer is probably not. Despite showing the opposite when banning Russia, Eurovision will still attempt to be apolitical. And unlike the Russia-Ukraine war, European nations are split between the support for and against Israel. So far, not a single broadcaster across Europe has officially stated that they will boycott Eurovision if Israel is allowed to participate, with many saying they will support the EBU in this decision regardless. But it will be another question if, by May, Israel has any friends at all who would be willing to give them the douze pois. Israel is in a state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she. As our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. This week on News 24, Israel under attack. News 24 in Spanish brings the analysis and the information of the events of the war, Spades of Iron. Exclusive interviews, reports from the war zone, the reaction of the Spanish-speaking countries. News 24, the only medium in Spanish that keeps you informed and connected with the Latin community in Israel. News 24, only on I-24 News. At the beginning of the war, we had a small profit in the rest of Europe. Now we have more than 200 such exports, and there is no money left in the bank. At the same time, it is harder and harder to find a place where they are ready to accept it. I am Nicole Michel and this is a special edition of News 24 in Spanish, dedicated to the war, Spades of Iron. A year ago Damian Pachter decided to change the retina and left to Germany. Today we have it as a guest, just as our guest of luxury. Thank you, luxury is mine. Okay, so let's start from the beginning. Where have you come from to be here with us in our program? Well, I'm from February of 2023, living in Berlin. And well, it was all more or less normal until October came, and things changed for everyone, even for either the Israeli people, or the Jewish people. And if the Israeli and Jewish people lived outside, it all came to us, what happened here that October. Damian? Yes. A year ago you left, as Carlos was saying in the presentation, a year of many changes. A lot. Here before, now you're there, but you're in Germany. You're here in Tel Aviv, but you're in Germany. A year ago you thought you were going to return in these times of Israel? That's a good question, no. I didn't think, I didn't plan to come, beyond the fact that I wanted to come with Yanita, my wife, for a visit at some point of the year, in May, or later. But as I explained before, from October everything changed, and I think we all felt touched in some way, and well, I decided to come for a week in terms of tourists and... Observer. Observer, and just try to be a little with this town, in this country, which is where I grew up, and trying to process the changes that happened, which are very visible, if, above all, if you take a year off, then you return, after October 7th, and the change is seen everywhere. Maybe in fact, a person who abstracts himself, who lived outside, and then comes back, you see it different from the person who resides in Israel, and four months ago, who has this terrible act of terror, above all, you notice when you walk on the streets, you notice when you even go to a bar, you notice, beyond the war, also in Tel Aviv and in different parts of Israel, they try to take a routine, as best they can. There is a bit of denial, which is a characteristic trait of all those who live here, because after all, life follows, and it is the course of... You had to give me a title, immediately, from what you have seen. You have directed an international section. What title would you give your first impression? Different. Different. Yes, different. Well, let's see then, now, a segment, a video that summarizes something that happened on October 7th, but seen from Gaza. On October 7th, from urban areas of the city of Gaza, they never launched missiles to Israel, but that was not the news. They entered the territory, they conquered a tank, they killed soldiers. The euphoria was immense. They entered more and more. Jeeps raped Israeli women, they were taken to the cry of Al-Awakbar, they killed parents, and they played terror with their little children. The Israeli Defense Forces launched pamphlets in Arab, in Gaza, to prevent civilian casualties, since the legitimate defense of a vulnerable country was imminent. Each place of attack were depots of bellied armament of Hamas, in houses, schools, mosques, entrances to the tunnels of terror, while Gaza Tis, many have died, thousands displaced, fleeing from a war that their own rulers began to hate, not for land. Iran, the fundamental pillar. Ismail Haneyeh, in the comfort zone. The population of Gaza, among ruins by the jihadists. Where are the Palestinian leaders? While humanitarian aid enters, the water is gold. Where is the money donated to Gaza by the international community? In the tunnels. They are an armed terrorist army and trained to kill Israelis. Trained for the mediate psychological war, which leads from the shoulder to the Jewish child of the Spiderman hat, which is mounted on the cars of the Red Cross. An impeccable, Machiavellian scene. Children of Israelis against terrorist prisoners. A cruel exchange. But this is the game of life. Or, say it, the nations of the United States. How do you explain all this that has happened for the German public opinion? Well, I think that Germany is not different in a certain sense of everything that happens in Europe, be it for the vast population of Muslims who live there. There are also a lot of pro-Palestinian demonstrations, but it is as if they are also in Germany and in other places in Europe. It is as if this time it is different. There are also two different levels in the sense that, on the one hand, it is what the German government, which is openly, in a very surprising way, pro-Israeli, which is quite the way they did it. Before, it was a little lower, and now it is as if, even if you go through the municipalities in some places in Germany, in Berlin, especially, you see the flag of Israel. So at the governmental level, it is openly, publicly pro-Israeli. But there is another world, which is the street. It is not pro-Israel. But are they originally Germans or Germans from other nationalities, Muslims? Maybe a lot of them are immigrants, but they are Germans. Let's see now, then, a reaction against Gaza, made by Israel. On October 7, from urban areas of the city of Gaza, Mosul never launched missiles to Israel. Fire, destruction, death in the bus station. To dance, to run. The terror of the missiles was nothing compared to the panic of the terrorists in Israeli territory, sediments of evil. Benjamin Netanyahu, Joe Biden, Anthony Blaken, the world power between the sword and the wall. Diplomacy in times of war. The deep sadness of a country that has buried children, parents, friends, carrying the death of its people, but above all, with David's star. Let's see then this reality with respect to another situation, which is the one we live, for example, in France, in Germany. How do you perceive that in the European society? Well, the European society has a lot of internal issues, as well as other phenomena that filled the international agenda until October, which was the war in Ukraine between Russia and Ukraine, and that affected all geopolitical relations in Europe. From October 7, the Russian-Ukrainian War happened in the second half, and there was no place in Europe that remained, let's say, without any expression of what happened on October 7. The governments were forced to take some role. At the beginning, everyone came here and then they forgot. Yes, and above all, France is now having a much more active role as a Western mediator. One of the main mediators is the West between Qatar, Hamas, and Israel, beyond the fact that the United States as always manages the concert, but several proposals are being evaluated, days ago, a meeting of Israeli intelligence leaders of the American CIA, and they are trying to reach some kind of agreement to free the prisoners, perhaps in exchange for some time in the next few weeks or months. But this meeting happened in France days ago, and the European policy is having a very active role, always with a certain posture, also for the internal problems they have, how they are composed of societies in each country, in Asia, in Germany, and these roles are so active that they can reach a point that what happened in October and we are already four months, in the end, the public opinion develops certain immunity towards the subject because as it is not its own population, the fact of maintaining the agenda is very complicated, especially for Israel. But you do not consider that there has been a increase in what is so much of anti-Semitism, that is, Europe has a lot of it, of course, we are talking about what countries in Europe can be more or less, but how have you seen the image of Israel, the image of the Jew at the end of the day? In the sense that it was not easy, it is not easy to be in Europe, not in Latin America, but Latin America has its own I would leave Latin America for later, but it is not it is like things that one studies regarding the Holocaust in high school, in high school, and that there were resources that were put to develop that consciousness in all the countries and suddenly something happens as it happened and I do not even say that one has to be automatically in favor of being so against it, it is too dirty, it is too uncomfortable also to the own Jewish populations that come to the countries of Europe. Well, let's go to Damian, for that same cause in the video of all the facts in France and Germany I am sad and angry to see that my country in France cautions this massacre that takes place in Palestine whether in Gaza, in Jerusalem, in Rafa, in Jericho the people die of hunger, of thirst they have no water, they kill children every day in white gas and it lasts since 1948 it is shameful the Palestinian people suffer, the Israeli people suffer, there are only extremists who are happy with this situation we came here today to show the people of France solidarity with the Palestinian people and our support for peace for a peace solution with two states Israeli state and a Palestinian state and we are here because in France demonstrations have been forbidden by Mr. Darmanin, by Mr. Macron's government and so it is very important to show that in France too as in all the other countries in the world there is growing support and solidarity to stop the massacre to stop and to gain a ceasefire as soon as possible so now we are going to Spain Spain is another reality that has nothing to do with the rest of Europe the Prime Minister was here before he spoke badly about Israel at the same time he presented himself as demonstrators how do you explain it? the role of Spain is really if I had to choose from all the countries which was the most radical the most located was being Spain I don't have a scientific explanation for that but I can tell you that on social media when you post in Spanish 90% of the answers with a really bad language and openly using termologies of Nazism most of them come from Spain especially many answers from Barcelona now the role of Sanchez I still remember when he made a kind of act from the border giving the moral lessons to Israel it's really part of this trend that we were talking about during the last minutes of a certain trend in Europe which is openly anti-Semite anti-Israelis however they use words to whiten the situation and I don't know if they don't realize it I think they do it on purpose but you know I'm going to add something regarding Spain I was here, I had the opportunity to interview Santiago Abascal who is the leader of Vox I also interviewed him a person with a lot of awareness and a lot of support he was in the NIR OS he was here in the studies of I-24 news he gave his full support to the Israeli society he said that he can't have double racism we are talking about another important part of the Spanish society that supports him and he is leading and supporting the defense situation in a vulnerable moment that has had a lot of strong Israel and also in these days they have been victims of the 7th of October in Madrid by Vox in the offices and the Vox headquarters so there is also a part of the Spanish society that we could say that it is not only the one that is completely with the discourse of Sanchez I want to draw your attention that the right parties are the ones that are more openly in favor of Israel and the left that generally carries the flags of individual freedoms the freedom of cult freedom of religion suddenly they are majority not only are anti-Israelis but they are openly pro-jamás it has to do with the left and right and there is an element it is obvious that the left for a conscious decision they don't even try to cover it they are openly before Israelis and it is part of the combo of the clichés of a left person automatically is anti-Israelis why? why can't it be left and pro-Israel there is that kind of contradiction here in Israel the left or the left center manifests itself against the Israeli government months and months and months months until what happened in October but there is a huge criticism of the left political field towards the Israeli government however when one takes it outside there are no means it is all anti-Israelis openly and it is very rare and it is lamentable let's see then what happened in Spain from the river where is humanity where is humanity we are in 2024 and we are accepting what is happening in Palestine what is happening with the world Damian I think we have to see the aspect and everything that is in the reality of the Palestinians in London because in the end they are not supporting the Palestinian people but in this case let's see what is happening is an atrocity and I think any way that it is trying to paint in another way is terrifying and we shouldn't be standing for it and I think it is really important that we are standing down and a ceasefire needs to happen and we won't rest until until that happens it's a shame because I don't know what we are seeing here at this march is so many people being really grateful to see Jews here those Jews really grateful to be part of a collective of other people we are here trying to liberate everyone Jewish freedom and Palestinian freedom we are seeing the amount of the possibility of Israel should be renounced what should we do with all these people I don't have that answer but it is a reality that not only what is happening now but it is going to expand and that is going to happen we are seeing signs of that in the United States places that previously predominantly were at least in the public opinion of Israel but there is also a problem that I consider at least that is a problem that we don't touch that is the tube through which the information arrives is the role of the media in this conflict exactly and being a journalist a long time ago you also Carlos is like a lot of masks came out October and one does not even ask for an effort but it is all so dirty they are institutions the mechas of the world journalism that are openly taking information from never and that they publish it as an objective fact for example the figures or the Ministry of Health of Gaza or the humanitarian aid that arrives to Gaza and who arrives to the majority it is like the journalism has become vague there is not even a minimum attempt to check information beyond receiving the cables of the news agencies that also the news agencies have a role and one wonders why so much effort and in the end the objective ok, one understands that the objective is a goal in itself it is true that there is no objective but in the same way when in the media they say the Ministry of Health of Gaza publishes X as an objective fact it is not like that but then it is a good thing to be pro-Palestinian or pro-Israel a thing is to be a pro-society but in a case like this and the journalists in the world who has committed it a terrorist group who is also completely vulnerable to their own society so in these moments to support Palestine and the journalists in Europe, in the whole world it is not to support the Palestine that should be developed but to support a terrorist group that wanted this reaction of the international community for that they use their own people as human shields and all that reality that we try to handle in the media of this part the journalism the journalists it is a trend that happens for quite a few years especially in Latin America where I first saw it is that the personal agenda the political agenda before the profession and it is like there is a conclusion with which they go to the study or to redact their article and I go back to the subject of that there is no real effort to try to reach to the truth or at least if what they are telling me is true use the doubt as the tool to test the facts I would say that we see now a small version of something that happened in Chile and then we see if it reaches the time to see what happened in Argentina let's see it that the very name of Palestine is already political and the flag and they are strong symbols that they speak of without wanting Palestine is a political and planetary club and I am proud of this shirt and I am happy that it is in Chile and Palestine not in another country Well Damian, you saw this man that he was saying the symbols he had his shirt with all the Palestinian insignia he is very good but he, this man and all these gentlemen in Latin America do you really know that shirt they are wearing do you know what it means to support Palestine what Palestine and also what they are supporting behind all that who is behind all this reality I think they know especially in Chile they have a large population of Palestinian origin but one can be pro-Palestinian there are even Israelis who are open that is not the point I am pro-Palestinian pro-Palestinian who comes forward and develops as Israel develops the point is to use the narrative of the will to be a Palestinian state and another different thing is from the river to the sea that is completely different and I think the current conflict the war in Gaza the latent conflict which is the same as what we talked about regarding what one studies in the secondary what happens when they really point to before it was the Jews now to the Israelis as the origin of all the evils now the answer to the invasion of Jamas to the south of Israel the way they justify it but this actually did not start on the 7th of October 1948 and it is a term that is external from here on they use it for there was a ceasefire until the 7th of October we have one minute left to talk about Argentina short what do you mean? well, for the first time in decades there is a person who is openly Israeli that is Javier Milay who even took him ahead a step further in the middle of a presidential campaign took an Israeli flag and started the flag in the middle of a presidential campaign you know, the votes that you have left but it did not matter with that with that vision and maybe we will have the visit of Milay here the only thing left is to thank you as a total guest thank you so much thank you for being with us and we just have to ask for those who are with us who follow us everywhere the next week we will see you and we will move forward until next time and we will see you in the next week we will see you in the next week the United Nations could put sensitive negotiations in jeopardy the US could also veto any UN resolution as we speak about the United States going back to the United States President Joe Biden says that the action taken against Iranian-backed militias is just the beginning quoting him now it will continue at times and places of our choosing here is Raul Admiral John Kirby of the US National Security Council we do not seek a conflict with Iran to degrade and disrupt the capabilities of the IRGC and the groups that they sponsor and support as the general said we believe that these targets fell into exactly that criteria and the goal here is to get these attacks to stop we are not looking for a war with Iran we have live team coverage of the every angle of the story I-24 News correspondent Jonathan Regev has delayed as Jonathan we are getting word that at least for a kill but we are also hearing that Iraq's government apparently was warned far in advance far enough time for the militias to escape not only that as soon as the B-1 bombers took off from Britain which is some hours flight from Iraq those words that those bombers took off meaning anyone who needed some advance warning that this attack was coming hit it and that is why we are speaking of what 85 different attacks 125 targets and we are speaking of 6 people killed so clearly whoever needed some warning that they should leave had the warning and they left and the damage is mostly material there is lots of damage not so many casualties how useful that is it remains to be seen maybe more of a message from the United States as far as terrorists killed not so much Jonathan Regev joining us live from the southern part of Israel thanks so much for joining us let me now join in studio by Colonel Amit Asa the former member of the Israeli security agency and also from Daniel Chek he's the former ambassador to France from Israel thank you both for joining us Amit I'm going to ask you first there first of all the Syrian foreign ministry just moments ago said that this is going to fuel the conflict in a dangerous way coming from Syria is that surprise you? no Syria is connected to Iran and to Hezbollah for years the Syrian regime of Assad of course it's the third trickle of what we see in the north and they are giving us also the hints by the militias that the Iranian militias in Syria for a long time acting against Israel and acting against the United States so it's not surprising that Syria is in the conflict does it surprise you that it took so long for the Americans to respond? there have been 170 attacks on Americans personnel in the past three months since the beginning of the war with Hamas I think the decision what the US wants from this war is not to make it wider it's not to make it regional so the United States will stay until the last minute that they have to do something that's why I think that they are waiting so much they are doing, they are not just sitting around they are doing acting here and there but it's not the way and of course they said immediately that it's not against Iran directly that he doesn't want any conflict with Iran just with proxies meaning Iran but not really Iran from a diplomatic perspective it's sort of a way for the United States to kind of do what they wanted to do but not quite go far enough there's a delicate balance to strike here because as was just said next to the massive support for Israel in the war in Gaza an equally important American objective is to evade any kind of escalation of this war or regionalization of the war and that can happen on the northern border of Israel with Hezbollah with the Houthis in Yemen or with the militias in Iraq so on the one hand President Biden that it was time to show some muscle and to send a message as Jonathan Regiff said it's not a question of how much you destroy and how many people you kill it's just to make a point that the United States not only has the capacity to act but will do so if tempted for too long but on the other hand not to do something excessive that would sort of themselves are trying to stop from escalating by others but it's not as though the Americans are also taking care of the Houthis which are basically an Iranian proxy as well they have formed this international coalition they are the centerpiece of it and there are actions against the Houthis some people think not enough I think the US thinks that international participation isn't massive enough because this is no longer an issue not simply an issue of supporting Israel or defending Israel it's defending one of the most important international trade corridors maritime trade corridors and I think there should be a much stronger international mobilization for this because it's in everyone's interest but at the same time we're dealing with a larger chess game that we're playing here and the Americans do this strike they've got you said the Israelis helping them out I imagine with here's a list of here's where you should strike if you're going to strike at what point does the Israeli ministry say okay you know what we'll help you whatever we can and plus let's see whatever larger international group we can put together to fight what Iran is the number one target I think that Iran is the esoteric next step for Israel to deal with and we need the United States to be our side when Israel will strike or Israel will defend itself against this esoteric confronting but still we own US something in the Gaza Strip because they doesn't want to escalate this war they want to stop the war so it's some kind of of a dance that we are dancing with the United States because we know that the next step we will need it. Right because at some point the United States even back after October 7 didn't want to get involved right away the ship the aircraft carrier came but then had to leave so it's sort of like this this back and forth we have that Israel does with the United States. I think that what the American is showing all the area all the region is the force that they have and the ability that they have if they will want to use it. Especially now in the Khouty's issue and in Syria and Iraq issue we see that Americans are acting but still what we see is just a symbol just a sign it's just some kind of a dance with the Iranian real thing I hope that if we will need the help of United States in this region wider I think I hope that they will be there. Do you expect the Iranians to respond? No I don't think that they will want to respond. They will respond as we see the war with Hezbollah in the north they will respond with acting using their proxies not themselves no of course Iran is playing this game from the beginning and they are building it for years for years now Iran is putting these proxies outside of Iran not to do a war on the borders this is strategically built for years so we will see acting with the proxies not directly from Iran of course. Dana I want to talk to you from a larger perspective let's go up a little higher in perspective here there are those who say we are living in the 1930s right now that the axes are lining up and we are a step away from something much more confrontational and this example today is just another one of those 1930s style fights that go across these little skirmishes that occur do you buy into that notion are we in a time now we should be very careful as to what happens in the future I don't think the comparison is correct but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be on our guard you know even without being in the 1930s we can be in a different version of something much bigger and worse than what we are seeing right now and it's certainly worth the attention and the trouble and the energy and the caution to try and do better than in the 30s I think that's the lesson to be learned to be more careful and more attentive I don't think the players are the same I don't think the historical situation is the same but you don't really need the historical comparison I don't think history repeats itself but you should learn from history and there are things to be learned currently we're talking about something regional I'm not saying a theoretical potential of this growing even beyond the region there are other factors in the international arena like the relations between China and the United States like the very militant position of of a Russia under Putin and in big difficulty with the Ukrainian war there's all sorts of potential whether you can connect the dots through all of us yes but you don't have to you can but you don't have to and there are probably ways to evade it and I think we're still at a stage where we can try and calm things down rather than escalate them the reason I bring it up there are some commentators who have come on and said we're dealing with the United States what they're doing it's not confronting Iran directly it's a matter of appeasement and what needs to happen is that the United States needs to confront Iran directly and instead of doing these little bits and proxies and all of that just go straight for it I don't think so I don't think we're there I think there are many ways for the United States to act before there is a direct confrontation with Iran the question is not what the United States can do but what it should do and what the possible repercussions of this or that do or do not do can be and I think we're not there at this point I think there's plenty still to be done with the proxies and I think there are ways to punish Iran without a direct confrontation I think isolation more serious manner sanctions economic pressure etc. are still on the table and those are in a sense part of acts of diplomacy but also part of acts of war gentlemen I have you hold for one second here because the other story that's making headlines today is this reported skirmish internal skirmish in Hamas between Sinwar and Hania let me both bring this is a bit of an interview that I did earlier today with Raphael Yorshami the former senior intelligence officer for the IDF talking about how he thinks this whole battle between the two is actually staged take a listen my first reaction by experience is that it's staged of course we've seen this all the years all through the years between the Islamic jihad and the Hamas like arguing and when the Islamic jihad was attacking Israel the Hamas said please don't like they don't can hold the Islamic jihad this is the same the bargaining position here being that it's now a division of labor in the negotiation and the people in Doha are going to put the bar very high which exempts Mr. Sinwar for being the one who is like blocking the negotiations Mr. Sinwar is like shown as more supple going to find a solution and look if you don't find a solution and you'll have to deal with the Doha guys who are so tough and don't want to compromise all this is a show believe me there are very many points of dissent between the people in Doha and the people in Gaza they've always been as to the strategy for instance and Mr. Hanie would gladly by now abandon the military branch of Hamas and just consider a political future for the Hamas movement they see that's getting them nowhere Mr. Sinwar on the other hand comes from the military branch into the political arena and he's a true believer of military action and terrorism that is true but when it comes to the outside world and to negotiating with the Qatar with the Americans then they are putting on this show this play Amidasa is this theater yes of course because they have the same strategy strategy of building the Hamas again in Gaza and also in the West Bank to build the Hamas very solid way they need the Hania to work in the diplomatic way but Hania needs it to do to be also in the Gaza Strip as the way the war is going so they are playing this game to show the world that they have some disagreement maybe inside between Sinwar and Hania and its make difficulties for them to put these terms of the Israelis on the table but it's all a game against the world they have the same strategy and it's well known the defeat of IDF inside Gaza Strip and also building a new Hamas government in the West Bank and Gaza I should let our viewers know that Daniel is also the director of diplomacy for the Hasidjah missing family form when you see these reports that there's internal battling and it's causing a hold on the ceasefire any idea for a Hasidjah deal from the families of the perspective where does that sit you can imagine that any information that amounts to hold back or to a slow down in the negotiations is something that creates a lot of concern among the families I'm not 100% in agreement with the two last commentators that this is all staged I agree that in strategy the future rebuilding Hamas and all that I'm not 100% sure that for the tactical issues of how to run the war and how to run the negotiations there is indeed full agreement between them and they're just playing this I think that things that you see from look differently from Doha and there have been already some disagreements between them history shows the recent history that when there is disagreement it's seen while that wins because he's the man on the ground and he's the man who pays the price and runs the business but having said that the good thing is that there is now a serious negotiation absolutely happening there is a real proposal on the table of the essence as it you know we're 120 days in and of course the main hope is that this negotiation will end with an agreement but it also has to happen very fast because for some of these people every day, every hour might be the difference between life and death another world about the Hamas acting I think they have a very bad communication from outside to inside it takes time to move all the information from the Hamas outside to the inside to Sinwah and back so it's also something that leads the time to be very slowly and this is a good news for us because if there is any communication problem between the outside and the inside that means that Sinwah is in danger let me ask you, we have a couple minutes left to ask you about the two people that supposedly Hamas wants released as part of this deal what do you know those two we know of course they sent it to for a lot of years in prison because of acting and of standing a terrorist for killing Israelis these two people is not just a terrorist they are willing to be on the diplomatic and the political way leaders in the West Bank of course and also in Gaza and this is just sign you that even in the future when we will put these two persons in the diplomatic in the politically position they will move on aiming the Israeli and also their strategic will be terror and in fact it's not going to be something with peaceful acting the protest tonight as the usual every Saturday night they hold in the square what will they be asking the Prime Minister and the government to do tonight to move as fast as possible I think that's timing that's the issue for this weeks protest I'm confident that Israelis will continue to come and show their solidarity tens of thousands even under the pouring rain I will be there as all the families will be there and I know that many tens of thousands will join us hoping that this might be one of the last weeks we have to do this day 120 Daniel Shek the director of diplomacy for the hostage and missing family form and Amit Asa former member of the Israeli security agency thank you both for joining us the 17 weeks ago today let's just talk about this 17 weeks ago today hundreds of innocent Israelis were killed at the Nova music festival one of those who survived was Nebo Shaulian he's a musician it's taking weeks to begin the healing process but he's starting to heal and he's doing it by using a musical instrument that he developed I-24 news correspondent Yuri Shapiro brings us his story this relaxing workshop may be misleading several members gathered to explore what seems to be a combination between a meditation and music retreat using a special musical instrument but behind this workshop there is also a lot of pain I saw this incident completely fell in love so we joined forces and started like building this project and spread it around the world but the whole idea behind those type of instruments are therapeutic for meditative and for you can do whatever you want with them but that's the type of sensation that you get when you play them and then when it happened this whole horrible event I looked for ways and my partner really pointed me towards this instrument and that just gave me the power back to me 28 year old Nebo Shaulian the co-director of this workshop is a musician on October 7 Nebo was at the Nova Rave in Reim preparing to perform on one of the side stages we were supposed to start the show at around six but there was a little bit problem with the microphone so we had to take a little bit of time to set it up and then six already we were supposed to start play when the missile started the police told us to start to go home because a lot of people under an influence of different type of drugs because it's a type of parties at seven we started hearing shooting from the floor but we didn't really make a lot of sense out of it like we didn't like I didn't even get into the car yet so I thought ok a little bit shooting I'm next to 50 police men I feel safe this is something that can happen in most kind of areas we never imagined it's going to escalate to that major event and at 7.30 the massacre started there was 100 of terrorists started shooting at us and we ran we ran for our life for a long time it was very very long there was there was a unit of people that are shooting at you and after they're shooting at you they're taking the people that are wounded another unit of people that are trying to kidnap you so there are coming waves they shoot and then they kidnap they shoot and then they kidnap one of the closest people to Nevo is Idan Štivi who came with him to the Nova Rave in order to document his performance Idan was kidnapped to Gaza and was considered missing for weeks you live that means to live? I know in my full heart that he's alive how he can tell you for a fact but for me it is a fact I feel it I feel exposed I feel that he's in the air he's just a very strong feeling that I'm just holding into Vo and his business partner Otal Peleg opened a new workshop for the Nova Rave survivors they bring this instrument called Bajin to the participants the Bajin is an original development of Peleg it's important for me to say that to give through the donations that we receive is a very very simple instrument so not like this one which could look a bit more complex and perhaps intimidating this is very very simple even more simple than this one and this was designed for people to have something that is just so easy and so accessible that it will just be a part of their lives without any effort Otal and Nevo are now trying to raise money so they can expand their pilot meanwhile Nevo continues to struggle with the outcomes of October 7 I think the biggest challenge is to really understand that you're living a new life you had a certain plan you had you knew people that are very close to you you need to learn to live in a new reality if you want or don't want and that new reality have a lot of hardships a lot of lessons to learn I think the hardest thing is just to feel calm in this new reality besides the tens of thousands who survived the massacres on October 7 they are taking their time to heal slowly with everyone in this country you can stay on top of the news here on I-24 News on TV, online, streaming and on the I-24 News app I'm Albert Lewerton reporting, the news continues you're watching I-24 News is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front lines but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well I-24 News around the world I'm Albert Lewerton reporting from the I-24 News headquarters in Tel Aviv, we begin with breaking news American B-1 bombers have bombed at least 7 locations at least 85 targets in both Syria and western Iraq more than 125 precision munitions were dropped moving on to the war in Gaza as far as the war there's a report in the Wall Street Journal that there's an internal strife of some sort between Hamas, within Hamas about accepting a ceasefire deal Yahya Sinwar is said to want a 6 week halt so they can regroup while Politburo head Ismail Hania is pushing for permanent ceasefire with international guarantees and the plan to rebuild Gaza now you should know this comes as Hamas and Islamic Jihad issued a joint statement last night saying that any hostage deal must include complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and a permanent ceasefire meantime the United Nations Algeria has pushed the UN resolution to call for an immediate ceasefire the Americans say this resolution at the United Nations could put sensitive negotiations in jeopardy so any UN resolution as we speak about the United States going back to the United States President Joe Biden says that the action taken against Iranian-backed militias is just the beginning quoting him now it will continue at times and places of our choosing Israel Admiral John Kirby of the US National Security Council we do not seek a conflict with Iran these targets are chosen as we said to degrade and disrupt the capabilities of the IRGC and the groups that they sponsor and support as the general said we believe that these targets fell into exactly that criteria and you know the goal here is to get these attacks to stop we are not looking for a war with Iran we have live team coverage of every angle of the story I-24 News correspondent Jonathan Regev has the latest Jonathan we're getting worried that at least six were killed but we're also hearing that Iraq's government apparently was warned far in advance far enough time for the militias to escape not only that as soon as the B1 bombers took off from Britain which is some hours flight from Iraq those were those bombers took off meaning anyone who needed some advance warning that this attack was coming headed and that is why we're speaking of what 85 different attacks 125 targets and we're speaking of six people killed so clearly whoever needed some warning that they should leave had the warning and they left and the damage is mostly material there's lots of damage not so many casualties how useful that is it remains to be seen maybe more of a message from the United States as far as terrorists killed not so much great Jonathan Regev joining us live from part of Israel thanks so much for joining us let me now join in studio Colonel Amit Asa the former member of the Israeli security agency and also from Daniel Chek former ambassador to France from Israel thank you both for joining us Amit I'm going to ask you first it seems as though first of all the Syrian Foreign Ministry just moments ago said that this is going to fuel the conflict in a dangerous way coming from Syria is that surprise you no Syria is connected to Iran and for years the Syrian regime of Assad of course it's the third trinkle of what we see in the north they are giving us also the hints by the militias that the Iranian militias in Syria for a long time acting against Israel and acting against the United States so it's not surprising that Syria is in the conflict does it surprise you that it took so long for the Americans to respond there have been 170 attacks on American personnel in the past three months since the beginning of the war with Hamas I think the decision or what the US wants from this war is not to make it wider it's not to make it regional so the United States will stay until the last minute that they have to do something that's why I think that they waited so much they are doing they are not just sitting around they are doing acting here and there but it's not the way and of course they said immediately that it's not against Iran directly they doesn't want any conflict with Iran just with her proxies meaning Iran but not to really run from a diplomatic perspective it's sort of a way for the United States to kind of do what they wanted to do but not quite go far enough there's a delicate balance to strike here because as was just said next to the massive support for Israel in the war in Gaza an equally important American objective is to evade any kind of escalation of this war or regionalization of the war and that can happen on the northern border of Israel with Hezbollah with the Houthis in Yemen or with the militias in Iraq so on the one hand President Biden felt that it was time to show some muscle and to send a message as Jonathan Regiff said it's not a question of how much you destroy and how many people you kill it's just to make a point that the United States not only has the capacity to act but will do so if tempted for too long but on the other hand not to do something excessive that would sort of escalate the war that they themselves are trying to stop from escalating by others not as though the Americans are also taking care of the Houthis which are basically an Iranian proxy as well they have formed this international coalition they are the centerpiece of it and there are actions against the Houthis some people think not enough I think the US thinks that international participation isn't massive enough because this is no longer an issue it's not simply an issue of supporting Israel or defending Israel it's one of the most important international trade corridors maritime trade corridors and I think there should be a much stronger international mobilization for this because it's in everyone's interest but at the same time we're dealing with a larger chess game that we're playing here so if the Americans do this strike you still have the Israelis having them out, I imagine here's a list of where you should strike if you're going to strike at what point does the Israeli ministry say we'll help you whatever we can plus let's see whatever larger international group we can put together to fight what Iran is the number one target I think that Iran and Hezbollah is the strategic next step for Israel to deal with and we need the United States to be our side when Israel will strike or Israel will defend the self against this esoteric confronting but still, we own US something in the Gaza Strip because they don't want to escalate this or they want to stop the war so it's some kind of dance that we are dancing with the United States because we know that the next step we will need it right, because at some point the United States even back after October 7th didn't want to get involved right away the aircraft carrier came but then had to leave so it's sort of like this back and forth that Israel does with the United States I think what the Americans are showing all the area, all the region is the force that they have and the ability that they have if they will want to use it especially now in the Houthi's issue and in Syria and Iraq issue we see that the Americans are acting but still what we see is just symbol, it's just a sign it's just some kind of dance with the Iranian it's not the real thing I hope that if we will need the help of the United States in this region, wider I think I hope that there will be Do you expect the Iranians to respond? No, I don't think that they want to respond they will respond as we see the war with Hezbollah in the north they will respond with acting using their proxies, not themselves Of course, Iran is playing this game from the beginning and they are building it for years Iran is putting this proxies outside of Iran not to do a war on the borders this is strategically built for years so we will see acting with the proxies not directly from Iran of course Dan, I want to talk to you from a larger perspective let's go up a little higher in perspective here there are those who say we're living in the 1930s right now that this is the axes are lining up and we are a step away from something much more confrontational and this example today is just another one of those 1930s style fights that go across these little skirmishes that occur do you buy into that notion? Are we in a time now we should be very careful as to what happens in the future I don't think the comparison is correct, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't be on our guard without being in the 1930s we can be in a different version of something much bigger and worse than what we're seeing right now and it's certainly worth the attention and the trouble and the energy and the caution to try and do better than in the 30s I think that's the lesson to be learned, to be more careful and more attentive I don't think the players are the same I don't think the historical situation is the same but you don't really need the historical comparison I don't think history repeats itself but you should learn from history and there are things to be learned and currently we're talking about something regional I'm not saying that there's not a theoretical potential of this growing even beyond the region, there are other factors in the international arena like the relations between China and the United States like the very militant position of a Russia under Putin and in big difficulty with the Ukrainian war there's all sorts of potential whether you can connect the dots through all of us but you don't have to and there are probably ways to evade it and I think we're still at a stage where we can try and calm things down rather than escalate them the reason I bring it up, yes the hope is to calm things down the reason I bring it up, there are some commentators who have come on and said we're dealing with the United States what they're doing is it's appeasement it's not confronting Iran directly it's this manner of appeasement what needs to happen is that the United States needs to confront Iran directly instead of doing these little bits and proxies and all of that just go straight for it I don't think so, I don't think we're there I think there are many ways to for the United States to act before there is a direct confrontation with Iran the question is not what the United States can do but what it should do and what the possible repercussions of this or that do or do not do can be and I think we're not there at this point, I think there's plenty still to be done with the proxies and I think there are ways to punish Iran without a direct confrontation, I think isolation in a more serious manner, sanctions economic pressure etc are still on the table and those are in a sense part of acts of diplomacy but also part of acts of war. Gentlemen, I might be hold for one second here because the other story that's making headlines today is this reported skirmish, internal skirmish in Hamas between Sinwar and Ha'iyah let me both bring you, this is a bit of an interview that I did earlier today with Rafael Yorshami, the former senior intelligence officer for the IDF, talking about how he thinks this whole battle between the two is actually staged, take a listen My first reaction by experience is that it's staged, of course we've seen this all the years between the Islamic jihad and the Hamas like arguing and when the Islamic jihad was attacking Israel, the Hamas said please don't, they don't can't hold the Islamic jihad this is the same the bargaining position here being that it's now a division of labor in the negotiation and the people in Doha are going to put the bar very high which exempts Mr. Sinwar from being the one who's like blocking the negotiations Mr. Sinwar is like shown as more supple trying to find a solution and look if you don't find a solution then you'll have to deal with the Doha guys who are so tough and they don't want to compromise all this is a show believe me, there are there are very many points of descent between the people in Doha and the people in Gaza they've always been as to the strategy, for instance Mr. Hanye would gladly by now abandon the military branch of Hamas and just consider a political future for the Hamas movement and they see that's getting them nowhere Mr. Sinwar on the other hand comes from the military branch into the political arena and he's a true believer of military action and terrorism, that is true but when it comes to the outside world and to negotiating with the Qatar, with the Americans then they are putting on this show, this play I made Asa, is this theater? Yes of course because they have the same strategy of building the Hamas again in Gaza and also in the West Bank to build the Hamas very solid way they need Hanye to work in the diplomatic way but Hanye needs it to be also in the Gaza Strip as the way the war is going so they are playing this game to show the world that they have some disagreement maybe inside between Sinwar and Hanye and it make difficulties for them to put these terms of the Israelis on the table but it's all a game against the world they have the same strategy and it's well known it's the defeat of IDF inside Gaza Strip and also building a new Hamas government in the West Bank and Gaza I should let our viewers know that Daniel is also the director of diplomacy for the Hasidjah Missing Family Forum when you see these reports that there's internal battling and it's causing a hold on the ceasefire any idea for a Hasidjah deal from the families perspective where does that sit? You can imagine that any information that amounts to hold back or to a slow down in the negotiations is something that creates a lot of concern among the families I'm not 100% in agreement with the two last commentators that this is all staged I agree that in strategy the future rebuilding Hamas and all that there is unity between them I'm not 100% sure about the tactical issues of how to run the war and how to run the negotiations there is indeed full agreement between them and they're just playing this I think that things that you see from Chaneunis look differently from Doha and there have been already some disagreements between them history shows the recent history that when there is disagreement with the wind because he's the man on the ground and he's the man who pays the price and runs the business but having said that the good thing is that there is now a serious negotiation absolutely happening there is a real proposal on the table time is of the essence as it's you know 120 days in 120 days in and of course the main hope is that this negotiation will end with an agreement but it also has to happen very fast because for some of these people every day, every hour might be the difference between life and death another world about the Hamas acting I think they have a very bad communication from outside to inside it takes time to move all the information from the Hamas outside to the inside to Sinwar and back so it's also something that leads the time to be very slowly and this is a good news for us because if there is any communication problem between the outside the inside that means that Sinwar is in danger let me ask you about the two people that supposedly Hamas wants released as part of this deal what do you know those two we know of course they sent it to for a lot of years in prison because of acting and participate of sending a terrorist for killing Israelis these two people is not just a terrorist they are willing to be on the diplomatic and the political way leaders in the West Bank of course and also in Gaza and this is just sign you that even in the future when we will put these two persons in the diplomatic and the politically position they will move on aiming the Israeli and also their strategic will be terror and attack it's not going to be something peaceful acting and then the final word the protest tonight as the usual every Saturday night they hold in the square what will they be asking the Prime Minister and the government to do tonight to move as fast as possible I think that's timing that's the issue for this week's protest I'm confident that Israelis will continue to come and show their solidarity even under the pouring rain I will be there as all the families will be there and I know that many tens of thousands will join us hoping that this might be one of the last weeks we have to do this day 120 Daniel Shek, the director of diplomacy for the hostage and missing family and Amit Asa former member of the Israeli security agency thank you both for joining us today 17 weeks ago today let's just talk about this hundreds of innocent Israelis were killed at the Novo Music Festival one of those who survived was Nevo Shaulian he's a musician it's taking him weeks to begin the healing process but he's starting to heal and he's doing it by using a musical instrument that he developed I-24 News Correspondent Yuri Shapiro brings us his story this relaxing workshop may be misleading several members gather to explore what seems to be a combination between a meditation and music retreat using a special musical instrument but behind this workshop there is also a lot of pain I saw this instrument and completely fell in love so we joined forces and started like building this project and spread it around the world but the whole idea behind those type of instruments are a therapeutic for meditative and for you can do whatever you want with them but that's the type of sensation you can do with them and then when it happened this whole horrible event I looked for ways and my partner really pointed me towards this instrument and that just gave me the power back to me 28 year old Nevo Shaulian the co-director of this workshop is a musician on October 7 Nevo was at the Novo Raven Reim preparing to perform one of the side stages we were supposed to start the show at around 6 but there was a little bit of a problem with the microphone so we had to take a little bit of time to set it up and then at 6.30 we were supposed to start play when the missile started the police told us to start to go home there was a lot of people under an influence of different types of drugs at 7 we started hearing shooting from the floor but we didn't really make a lot of sense out of it I didn't even get into the car yet so I thought ok a little bit of shooting next to 50 policemen I feel safe this is something that can happen in most kind of areas we never imagined it would escalate to that major event and then the massacre started there was hundreds of terrorists started shooting at us we ran we ran for our lives for a long time it was very very long there was units of people that are shooting at you and after they were shooting at you they were taking the people that are wounded another wounded unit of people that are trying to kidnap you they shoot and then they kidnap one of the closest people to Nevo is Idan Štivi who came with him to the Nova Rave in order to document his performance Idan was kidnapped to Gaza and was considered missing for weeks I know in my full heart that he is alive how? I can't tell you for fact but for me it is the fact I feel it he is in the air he is just a very strong feeling that I am just holding into Vo and his business partner Otal Peleg opened a new workshop for the Nova Rave survivors they bring this instrument called Bajin to the participants the Bajin is an original development of Peleg it is important for me to say that the instrument that was chosen to give through the donations that we receive is a very very simple instrument so not like this one which could look a bit more complex and perhaps intimidating this is very very simple even more simple than this one and this was designed for people to have something that is just so easy and so accessible that it will just be a part of their lives without any effort Otal and Nevo are now trying to raise money so they can expand their pilot meanwhile Nevo continues to struggle with the outcomes of October 7 I think the biggest challenge is to really understand that you are living a new life like you had a certain plan you had new people that are very close to you now you need to learn to live in a new reality that you don't want and that new reality have a lot of hardships a lot of lessons to learn I think the hardest thing is just to feel calm in this new reality besides the tens of thousands who survived the massacres on October 7 they are taking their time to heal slowly with everyone in this country helping them along you can stay on top of the news here on I-24 News on TV, online, streaming and on the I-24 News app I'm Albert Lewiton reporting the news continues you're watching I-24 News Correspondence throughout the world brings the truth from Israel to hundreds of millions of people in scores of countries Israel is completely done down in their beds bringing Israel's story to the world I-24 News channels Israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front lines but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well welcome to our viewers around the world I'm Albert Lewiton reporting from the I-24 News headquarters in Tel Aviv here are the stories making headlines at the top of the hour it's day 120 of Israel at war and we begin with breaking news American B-1 bombers have bombed at least 7 locations, at least 85 targets in both Syria and Western Iraq more than 125 precision munitions were dropped as for the war here in Israel there is a report in the Wall Street Journal that there is internal strife within Hamas about accepting a ceasefire deal Yahya Sinwar is set to want a 6 week halt in a group while Politburo head Ismail Haenia is pushing for a permanent ceasefire with international guarantees and a plan to rebuild Gaza now this comes as Hamas and Islamic jihad issued a joint statement saying that any hostage deal must include complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and a permanent ceasefire meantime at the United Nations in New York Algeria has pushed a UN resolution to call for an immediate ceasefire the Americans say this resolution could put sensitive negotiations in jeopardy the United States could veto any UN resolution and going back to our top story, the President of the United States Joe Biden says the action taken against Iranian-backed militias is just the beginning quoting the President now it will continue at times and places of our choosing we have live team coverage of all of this I-24 news correspondent Jonathan Raghiv has the latest Jonathan we're getting word that some 6 were killed maybe as many as 16 but we're also hearing that Iraq's government was warned way in advance were those people at those places were able to escape exactly you just reported Albert 87 locations 85 strikes 125 precise munitions here those numbers you think that a lot of terrorists were were killed but apparently they weren't that's because exactly as you mentioned there's a lot of advance warning coming to the Iraqi government we also as soon as those bombers took off and as far as we understand there was warning that they took off meaning anyone that understood that they may be in a place which could be target simply left and that is why the number of casualties we're hearing is rather small it's basically material damage to those locations but not a lot more than that I think the United States perhaps sending its first message will the next messages be a bit more precise when it comes to locate the terrorists we don't exactly know but yes there was a previous warning an early warning to the Iraqi government as it seems everybody knew what was coming and it's time to go was there any secrecy behind these attacks the answer as it seems is no Jonathan we are now at day 120 of the war in Israel longer than any other war in Israel other than the 1948 independence war how much has this changed Israeli society it has changed completely if we go back to October 6 then the Israeli society as divided as it was there was still one clear notion and that is that if you're in trouble the state of Israel will be there for you if you're in trouble the IDF will always be there for you that specifically has been broken that has been that trust has been broken and it will take years and years to rebuild that is why for example we're seeing already plans to bring back the residents of southern Israel at least those living up to four kilometers from the border fence all plans to bring them back many of them are saying we're not going back we simply don't simply have the trust that security is back despite the fact that we're hearing this from many of the authorities and it's just to show you also there are 14,000 injured IDF soldiers who are back home and trying to recoup it this also brings the thousands who are trying to just live every day here in Israel absolutely I mean there's so much to rebuild the lives of those in the south the lives of those in the north let's remember there have been some 300,000 reservists some of them are still in reserves they left behind families behind businesses building back all this after 120 days is not an easy task great Jonathan Regeb joining us from the southern part of Israel on the border with Gaza thanks so much day 120 of the war we'll have more news at the top of the hour but you can stay ahead of the news on the i24 news app I'm Albert Lewerton reporting from Tel Aviv the news continues Iran says it has launched a rocket into space bearing three satellites an achievement that indicates progress in the nation's space program but also advancement of technology useful to Tehran's ballistic missile program i24 news Robert Swift has more the roar of the phoenix rocket resonates through our country's sky and infinite space as it carries three satellites into earth's orbit Iran is celebrating what appears to be a successful launch of its Seymour or phoenix rocket after a number of failed launches in the past the cargo the Mada research orbiter and two micro satellites the Cayenne and Hattif one Iran says with these platforms Tehran intends to test communication and geo positioning technologies as well as the nation's ability to deploy satellites but western observers are less pleased Iran's achievement comes during heightened tensions in the Middle East and just two weeks after Tehran launch strikes against targets in Iraq, Syria and Pakistan rocket technology capable of lifting satellites into orbit is also a key component in the production of long range weapons systems sanctions against Iran related to its ballistic missiles program expired in October its enrichment of uranium a key component in nuclear weapons has accelerated since the US withdrew from a deal restricting Tehran's nuclear research in 2018 Iran has consistently said its development of rocket and nuclear technologies is for civilian purposes only a line that few are buying Nine Pakistani workers were killed yesterday across the border in Iran this brings back the question of whether Iran and Pakistan can really put their latest tensions behind I24 News, Lynn Plachmaier reports Border wars heating up again Nine Pakistanis were killed in the eastern border region of Iran known as the Sistan and Balochistan province by Iranian gunmen on Saturday Pakistan's ambassador to Iran confirmed the incident in a post on social media we are deeply shocked by the horrifying killing of Nine Pakistanis in Saravan, the embassy will extend full support to bereaved families Council Zahdan is already on his way to the incident site and hospital where injured are under treatment we call upon Iran to extend full cooperation in the matter usually Iran hides behind its proxies two weeks ago, Tehran decided to target Pakistan alongside Iraqi Kurdistan and Syria out in the open this did not boat well with Pakistan which conducted a retaliatory strike on Iranian soil both sides suffered casualties with Pakistan claiming Iran killed two children in its attack Pakistan the situation is a little bit more delicate because the countries are more at peace they have a lot of collaborations they have collaborations in trade they have military collaborations academic collaborations which have not stopped after the mutual attacks but there was some diplomatic tension around this issue it should be mentioned that both Pakistan and Iran killed Baloch rebels on each other's soil the Baloch people are around the border both in Iran and in Pakistan and they're all separatists in each country they're separatists they want to unite and they all perform internal terrorism attacks after the strikes the ambassadors of both countries were recalled but ties seem to be already mending with the return to their respective posts the day before the terror attack took place no group has claimed responsibility yet but in the wake of this deadly ambush the Iranian Foreign Minister is set to travel to Pakistan on Monday until October 7 women fighters from the K9 Okets unit which operates with specially trained dogs were mainly engaged in locating missing persons and weapons in the West Bank since the beginning of the war and after undergoing special training they have been working alongside their dogs in the heart of the Gaza Strip proving everyday a new why women are an integral part in defending Israel good dog great search for those who look from the side it might be difficult to recognize the uniqueness of the team training here in Zakine base but the expression beneath the face mask shows that this is a unique team of female fighters for four months now they have been doing everything possible so that the barking they hear in the training they will hear in Gaza as well after their dogs managed to locate explosives or even a live fighter the Magen Squad consists of K9 Okets unit fighters who operate continuously on two levels locating missing persons with long runes of buildings and finding weapons in the territories but after October 7 they underwent special training together with their dogs for fighting inside Gaza we train at destruction sites which is something we would not do before before October 7 we focused on closed spaces the explosions in Gaza are something they are not used to hearing so they are trained to work under pressure under intense noise how do you train for such a thing we have machines that simulate explosions we practice at the ranges where the dogs are trained to be under control with shooting in the background and how is Toby Toby is like a machine he knows the job I trust him with my eyes closed we worked hard for it there were moments when he was not easy with the noise of the explosions so we trained mainly on that like the female fighters themselves Toby also needed preparation before entering the battlefield inside Gaza the dogs are equipped with earplugs and still it is unlike any activity they have done before how do you feel about fighting inside Gaza is it hard I was actually really looking forward to it when you fight with the dog you ask yourself how things will go there are so many concerns you have to take care of his food his health that's a lot on your mind they are teamed up with the fighting forces in the field and assist in finding Hamas weapons and also in locating casualties ends the missing for example in the disaster last week in which buildings in the center of the Gaza Strip collapsed on fighters when you get to a place like this and there are lots of forces you send a dog and in the end it's just you and him there's silence and you listen to him and as soon as the barking comes it's an incredible feeling you're getting crazy no that's a hug oh that's a hug ok so you're cute on October 7th the fighters found themselves searching for signs that would provide the families of the missing with answers in one of the activities with luck he found an object which closed the circle for the family as soon as I discovered it it was a feeling of pride and also an understanding of the general situation and its values now they are probably on their next mission and while fighting on the battlefield in the Israeli high court there are still petitions demanding the IDF allows women on the front line it was already set in this war but we should say it again women were proved how much female fighters are an integral part in the defense of the country we are ready for anything for any task even if it takes time that's what we're here for is there a sense of pride in being a female fighter definitely it's amazing to see how people are more and more aware that a woman fighter especially with a dog is something that is necessarily needed in the field we're in a situation where the forces specifically require the girls of Okit's unit and their abilities because they know the advantages that we bring now Rachel Stelman is the head of the emergency response team at Kibbutz Kfar Azar close to the border with Gaza during the Hamas terror onslaught on the 7th of October she had to manage the response by herself from her safe room our terrorists were inside her home now she takes us through those events more in this report I took her to the front door to read the report of the front door I was standing here in front of the building in front of my house with my wife and dog and started to laugh and laugh we sent the picture of the family of the three of us in the middle the father a few minutes later I heard the screams of all the Arab and I was the head of Kibbutz Kfar Azar the police and someone else and what happens is I take my wife and dog together and we play the game I decided what to do and what to do and where people go to play the game on the 7th of October it was a terrible situation because I found myself playing this game alone because all the security forces our security forces the Arab police the police the police of the security forces were in the police station they took Kibbutz Kfar Azar and took their police and the police took the police and they were in the police station and they were shooting some of them were injured some of them were injured because no one came to help them and I was there I was sitting on the floor I didn't see anything either on the phone or on the phone I tried to contact the police and then I passed by and I received messages we were shooting we didn't know what was going on I received the message that if you see a dog he will shoot if I shoot you at home he will shoot he will attack you he will come to the police station Broditz family his father opened the house he saw a little dog he pushed it we gave it to his mother and gave it to the children and he left the police station they are silent they are silent and the dogs were taken from the house of the children And from a different point of view, I think that maybe he will help the children, and we will see. The time passes, and I look at the army, where are you, and where are you. And it continues like this. One of my parents says, Tishtemi, there are soldiers in the house. The entrance to the house, or one or two, we don't know. They weren't interested in the school. From the school, they just went out and went to the school. And there was the training of the soldiers, and the training of all the students. After some time, there were soldiers. And then we hear a sound, and I say, it's not a sound, it's not a sound. And they told me, my daughter says, if we hear it, it's Hebrew, it's Hebrew, it's our language. And then we open the door. And it was really scary. When I sat in the chair, in a dark room, in the middle of the week, there was nothing to talk about. Because in fact, the sound of the door opened up, because of the fact that they were also dead, and things like that. And it turned out that there was nothing to talk about. I think that it was part of my story, the story of all the time. All the time I do, all this, bringing me to a place that they... I can't think that they have feelings and nothing to talk about. I think they're starting to get angry. My heart hurts. I know how to bottle up the pain. But this time, the pain doesn't stay in. I can't keep it in. I wake up at night and see the images. It's terrible. Ruth Aran, a resident of Barry, survived the Holocaust at the same age as her granddaughter that was taken hostage by Hamas. Together with Yahel, six other family members were also taken hostage. Ruth's daughter, Sharon, granddaughter, Noam, 12 years old, granddaughter, Adi, and their two kids, together with her husband. Her son was murdered, and his wife, Shoshan, was a hostage as well. They knocked on the door. I opened, and I saw them standing there with green headband. They were terrifying. I don't know why, but I wasn't scared. I stood for a moment, and suddenly, someone was calling them, so I turned around and ran. At night when the soldiers came to take us, I saw across the yards were bodies of babies, kids, bodies all around. I will never forget it. Thank God I'm 88. I don't have much time to live, so I will do my best to remember it. It was horrible, just horrible. Since October 7th, many have used the term holocaust to describe the massacre in the communities surrounding the Gaza Strip. While some disagree, others say October 7th was a second holocaust. Ruth, who remembers clearly what she went through as a child, is unable to come up with another way to describe October 7th. It was a holocaust. Look, if they cut open the belly of a pregnant woman with a knife, isn't that a holocaust? Is it not? If they kill babies, isn't that a holocaust? It's a holocaust. They're savages. She immigrated to Israel with her parents before Israel's declaration of independence. She remembers very clearly the feeling of persecution and the longing to finally feel safe in the Jewish state. I love this country. It gave a sense of safety for millions of Jews that were nomads around the world. But what happened this time is unbelievable. Just unbelievable. I was born in 1935. I went through the holocaust at the same age as my grandson who was sitting with me in the safe room. All my memories are from a child's perspective. On the Black Saturday, Haim Ranan, a resident of Kibbutz Berry, was together with his son, grandson and caregiver in the safe room. His wife Hannah was at her brother's house and two of his granddaughters were hiding across the Kibbutz. Staying in contact over the phone, messaging each other, trying to figure out when the terrorists would get into their homes. They shut the safe room door and told the kids to cry quietly. Cry quietly. Don't go out to use the bathroom. It was like that with two of my granddaughters. The horrors of that day were unimaginable. More than 100 residents of Kibbutz Berry were taken hostage or murdered. For me, this was a second holocaust. I was even thinking about something that maybe not everyone would like to hear. I asked myself in numbers what is greater? 6 million or 107? 107 is more because I felt those 107 in my flesh are only later in life learned about the 6 million. In recent days, his older granddaughter decided to leave Israel with her family, now moving to the U.S. Today, I watch the interview on TV again and again. Only so I can hear the part she says, grandfather, you know I love you. It's difficult and sad and of course I know. And I continue crying. I'm crying. I'm crying. Niki and Tova Stern lost their son, Oran, on October 7th. He was a member of the security team at Kibbutz Netiba Asara. They live in a small village in southern Israel. And on that day, they kept in contact with their kids about what was going on in the Kibbutz, overwhelmed, facing the unimaginable. He never told his children or grandchildren about his life during the Holocaust. But he refuses to compare it to October 7th. I'm angry that we reached this point. The Holocaust was every hour, day, week, month, for five years. A promise was made to Holocaust survivors, never again. A promise that we many didn't fully understand. But the message of those who survived for the second time is clear. We will rise again. We have no other choice. Since the beginning of days, empires were rising and falling. All sorts of beliefs disappeared. And our small nation, the Jews, with all our faults, were still here. It's unbelievable, unbelievable. My generation saw the state of Israel as a miracle. We won't let it be burned down. I'm grateful, even after my son was murdered, that the people of Kibbutz, Barry, will come back to Barry and will rebuild their home as beautiful as it used to be. Because it was an astonishing home, this is my hope. In a state of war, families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she. As our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. This December 4th, there's been a transformation of landscape here from the somber gray of summer to a vibrant green. It fits well with what we've been doing here. We're going to bring back life here. Here we go through the bridge. We enter Gaza here through the same fence that was breached on October 7th. You can still see here part of the fence on the side. As we get in deeper, you can see destruction clearly. You see two main things when you get closer to Canunis from Israel. It's all destroyed and it's all silent. Some will say too silent. The structures you see here, we use them for IDF needs, protecting our path. Hello, good morning. We're here to meet the 55th Brigades Commander, a reserve paratroop brigade which is on the front line since October 7th. From what we see here, from the places you've taken, everything looks destroyed. What remains to be done? There's a lot of work ahead. This is just one area among many that we've succeeded in cleaning completely. There are a lot of similar areas here. Some are densely populated with the enemy hidden. There's a lot of work still to be done. Is it possible to spot the enemy? We understand they often operate underground. Sure, they hide underground, but we eliminate them underground as well. They also emerge from underground and we meet them in a lot of clashes that we have with them above ground and we also kill them above ground. It seems the intensity of the conflict in Gaza is lessening. Have you received orders to slow down? No, absolutely not. We're fighting here every day at full strength. We have goals that we're setting all the time for the future. We're accelerating our efforts for the best achievements against our enemies. Except for Oded, the commander, all the soldiers are reservists. All of them left their lives behind after October 7th, and since then, they are here. Naturally, some of them feel exhausted after more than 100 days of fighting, but others among them, dozens of brigade soldiers, signed a letter this week in which they demanded not to stop the fighting until all the goals of the war are achieved. This letter is just one example among many that I get from hundreds of soldiers and officers in the brigade. It's clear to everyone that we need to finish here as much as necessary with the best results that we can achieve so that October 7th will not happen again. Nothing close to it. We don't have any dilemmas on that. It's clear for us that we're doing everything we need to do to achieve our goals. After a month and a half of fighting, how exhausted are you? Of course we feel it, but it's not something we aren't trained for. Also, during the deals we persisted, we experienced the October 7th massacre in the southern communities. It gives us a feeling of duty, responsibility. There's a lot of work to do. It's not over yet. We don't see the end here yet until we reach our goals and finish everything that has to be done, we will not move from here. The mission here is huge. We feel very strong on the home front. It gives us support to continue. Everyone supports us, and we are here to complete the mission for as long as needed. We didn't come here to live now before the right time. We came here to win. The IDF has a lot of tactical achievements against Hamas in the last three months of fighting. The top of it, control of approximately 60% of the Gaza Strip and a significant decrease in launches towards Israel. But Hamas is continuing to fight and to hit the IDF soldiers only just last week in a barrage of 25 rockets which were launched towards Netivot. We understand why this causes frustration among the public after three months of fighting, a month and a half of you in Gaza, and they still succeed to launch large barrages. I can definitely understand the frustration but you need to come and see in order to understand just how big our achievements are here as the IDF. It will take a lot of time until we defeat Hamas. We understand that so we will fight as long as necessary. Away in Canunas because the IDF believes that Hamas is here and also other senior Hamas leaders. Do you know where to find them? No but we believe they're somewhere here hiding underground and we'll get to them. The silence in the area of Canunas demonstrates that the fighting has moved to a different stage. These reserve soldiers are ready to stay as long as needed despite the high prices they pay on the front line and at home. I hope their leaders know how they want this war to end and no less important that there will be someone to take care of them when they come back home. These young women have already spent three weeks of intense fighting in Canunas. After a well-deserved and long-awaited 48-hour rest they return to complete their mission because the forces on the ground need them. Is there something personal in the vest? I have a photo of my parents somewhere. They know that you have this on you? No but on the other hand they know that they're always present with me and that's something important. Inside the special forces of the 55th company are impatiently waiting for them. Teams appear fighters have their eyes on the battlefield watching from the sky spotting enemy threats around IDF forces fighting on the ground. These young fighters are present on the ground side by side with the fighters of the different units as close as possible to the front line. This time the mission is at the heart of Canunas. They already know this area of Gaza perfectly the kind of fighting that is taking place over there and what they have to do but they must not forget even for a single moment that Gaza is the kind of place which can always surprise you and nothing is really predictable. Their base is in this building where they will be staying for several weeks operating under orders from the battalion commander for the entire duration of their mission. These team members must be very close to each other in perfect harmony practically like a family. Yara comes from the United States so we use a lot of English words between us. I've never seen Yara start eating without first looking for trash bags. She always looks out for the one who didn't have time to eat or the soldier who was on guard duty. She was a little under three years. You came to join the army? Yes. What kind of girl were you in California? The same as I am here. If we told your university professors that this is what you're doing today what would they say? They wouldn't be surprised and they would say it suits me. Then there is Hilae but you will cut that in editing otherwise she will kill me. Hilae loves sushi but I still ate it. When I'm 80 years old I won't remember much. I will always remember my 20th birthday in Gaza. Maya is the one who gives me strength. She comes from Hoad Hasharon in the center. Her father is American and so she also adds a little accent to this team. Then there is Sapir, our rock star one of the best female officers I've met in our unit. Even a cat or a dog even a turtle, she only likes cows. She's right. I don't like pigeons and chickens either. Here in Gaza they are huge. It is an unmanned aircraft that they launch in flight just like the name Skyrider. These soldiers of the special unit are an integral part of the artillery's know-how to use these devices to collect information on the battlefield. After a year of training this device enables to achieve the most important goals the most direct impact on the advancement of ground forces to provide security to act in a supervised area. But let's be frank, what you see in front of you has not been easy for these women. They had to go through a complicated journey and constantly prove to reluctant officers that they were capable of fulfilling this mission until they were called in to help and asked to work and fight together with the men. And indeed, even if enormous progress has been made in this area, everything is not decided and they still have to prove themselves more than a man when they want to be a fighter. There were times when it didn't work out or the officers preferred not to take women with them into combat zones and it was us or no one else. But nonetheless, if we don't work hand-in-hand in close coordination because we're women from an operational point of view after a certain period when they get used to the idea of working with us and they realize that we're not here to joke around but to hit where it hurts the senior officers were actively asking us to be at their side. These soldiers are already on their second leg in Khan Yunus. They know the area perfectly. They are the eyes of the forces on the ground. They see what they cannot. A soldier can see up to 500 meters in front of them. They can monitor a much wider area. When we communicate with the officer of the forces who are in operation we can send him the visuals of the house that they're supposed to take before they attack. We can detect a dark colored spot and check what it is. We can really look at an individual coming in front of us see if it's a man or a woman or if it's a child. In the missions they perform on a daily basis the eyes of the skyriders have already saved many lives. We were on a fairly usual operation in Gaza and the unit which was close to us was under fire. We didn't see how it started but we knew we were in the middle of an enemy attack. However the story wasn't over when the missile was fired. Our goal from this moment is to search everywhere to check everything to see where the missile was fired from. For us it's a chase. We won't give up until we get our hands on these people. We kept looking everywhere in the alleys and the thickets under the trees and finally we spotted the marks of another missile fired from the same building a few seconds later. What could you see? The firing trail. When you fire an RPG for example there are flashes that are visible so we've been trained to know how to respond to this type of situations in a few seconds and to respond immediately. You saved your fellow soldiers? Yes we try. It gives a good feeling doesn't it? Yes it's fantastic. We feel that they feel safer. We feel that the mothers of these soldiers are a little more reassured. We follow one another in Khan Yunus. We must not forget that two of these young women who are here were very lucky on October 7th. That day some of the fighters from the Sapir units found themselves stranded in Nakhaloz where they had only been stationed for two days. When did you understand that you were fighting to save your life? Right away I believe. A terrorist intrusion alert I had never heard or experienced it. Did you think that this was the end? I tried not to think about it but of course we think about it at the time and we comfort each other all the time. The head of their unit Lieutenant Eda Nimri fell while protecting her soldiers. Since the start of the war and the fateful day on October 7th these fighters have not had a single minute of respite including to mourn the loss of their officer and here in the middle of fighting in Gaza they do not forget the memory of courageous Aydan their leader. For Aydan Nimri peace be to her soul. Sapir team fighters forget nothing of the events of October 7th during the fights either. This is precisely what they experienced on that black Saturday these 20 year old female fighters wanted to be there and take part in the fighting. It's a state of mind someone who will always try to find a way out and that's really what we do. This is also what I demand from my soldiers that they stay independent and that they are able to carry their gear however heavy it may be and that they may also maintain sanitary and hygienic conditions all of which are not obvious for young women. And how do you do it without taking a shower? We do without. Some people think we're princesses. Are you okay? Do you feel safe? How do you manage without washing? We have everything we need along with everything that people send us. I have plenty of sanitary supplies. Another spy plane takes off in the skies and the young women of the Sapir team continue their fight and boy or girl it doesn't matter to them. They must for now continue to be the eyes of their comrades on the Gaza front. This is their mission and no one will take it from them. Being in a unit of fighting girls is something awesome and any girl who wants to do it can do it. There's no difference. Do you feel comfortable? Do you feel comfortable? I think you're human. I don't know if I should tell you but we're all like in the middle of it. And we're all like in the middle of it. And we're all like in the middle of it. For over 100 days Adi Negev, a resident of Kibbutz near Oz has stayed at her home. Sometimes she was almost the only civilian in the Kibbutz, even in the days following October 7 when her friends around her were burned and destroyed. On television I heard a lot of people talking about the Arab world. They were here in the neighborhood that was really 10 meters from here. I received the television, I locked the house, I went to the house, I went to the house, I went to the house, I went to the house, I went to the house, I went to see my female friends in her Oz on social media. Runnoon, she went out to help her neighbor, Benny. She helped him with his children while he went out to save members of the Kibbutz whose lives were in danger. that all of them were created in their lives. But really, as soon as they were given the opportunity, their dream was not to open, and they had to get rid of it from the beginning. I think that when I left, I realized that there was no country. I knew that there was Israel, I knew that I talked to people, but I realized that there was no country, so I was not interested. The army did not come, and if they were not, then I would. At this point, perhaps the most interesting part of Adiz's story emerges. In the evening, IDF forces arrived at the Kibbutz to evacuate the people there. Even Adiz's father, Shraga Negev, one of the founders of near Oz, was evacuated. But Adi refused to live. The army arrived at 8am, and the army came to... to get rid of the army. To tell them, yes, to get rid of it, not to get rid of it, but to get rid of it, to get rid of my friends. Here were they, when we were in Hamal. They try to take all of us, to the children's houses, which are built to protect the army. It was already the army, and I was told here, where the army was, there was a church, and then I went to the church, I went to the church, I took a bath at my house, and I saw the culture. In the days after October 7, Adi was one of the last residents who stayed in near Oz. Although some of the corpses were still lying on the ground, the fence was still broken, and the IDF was deployed around the area. Well, there is a concept, there is an IDF here, which helps to get rid of the IDF, there is no IDF. It is to preserve the abundance of evidence of the horrific Hamas onslaught. On our way to the local cemetery, we bumped into Raz Pauker, the son of Gidon Pauker, who was murdered on October 7. The meeting between them, like many others in near Oz, is full of sarcasm and inside humor. Voila! Perhaps the closest person to Adi is Aviv Atsili, who was murdered on October 7 until November 30, was listed as missing. Adi claims she knew about the death of Aviv even on October 7. Adi's house is surrounded by memories and destruction, but inside it, there is a feeling of sanity and home. Adi continues to take care of the streetcats of the Kibbutz and tries to live her daily life as much as possible. Aviva Siegel is sharing the chilling truth of what is really happening to the women in captivity in Gaza. Aviva, who was released, was a key witness in the Knesset caucus for victims of sexual and gender violence, in the Knesset area. Aviva, who was released, was a key witness in the Knesset caucus for victims of sexual and gender violence, in light of October 7. We didn't kill them. We were forced to go to jail and do everything they said. If it was to stop, to think, to rest, and it would be a crime. I am a mother and I have no place to live. I have no place. I don't have the right to think here and continue to talk about sexual violence. We need to stop. But female Knesset members are listening. We had rapes. We had mutilation. We had women that were bleeding from their groins. They were shut. Different organs. They cut off organs. They did horrific things that no human can imagine. Led by parliament member Shelly Talmerone, who, after October 7, established a lobby for sexual assault. The emotional meeting also included testimony from doctors and first responders. A few weeks ago, these gut-wrenching pictures that emerged of female hostages bleeding sent shockwaves throughout Israeli society and beyond. There are no more people there. There are no more women there. There are no more women there. And we know that just what happens to us is the power of our power. The power of our power. The power of our power. They want us to know that we also belong to ourselves. But I think that everyone of you will die. They will die. They will die. We also heard from the aunt of hostage Noah Argimani, who was seen in a released video that announced the death of Yossi Sharabi and Itai Svirsky. Noah was arrested by the federal government and he has been charged with every crime committed. With the death of her mother, his mom and his brother. And time goes on. The deafening silence of women's groups around the world, including the U.N., has only made matters worse. They could be pregnant right now. They are being raped every second we stand here. second we stand here and the world is keeping quiet. It's unbelievable. And we are like also calling our colleagues in Hollywood, where are you? If women are getting raped every day and you're thinking about, oh what people think about me or your career, you have a problem with your humanity. Parliament Member Panina Tamano-Shata has been traveling the world, including the recent economic forum in Davos. Before I am a member of Knesset, I am a mother, I am a woman, and I am a daughter. We are fighting against these monster terrorists in Gaza. And for me as a woman and the head of the committee of women's status and gender equality, first of all, first of all, I put all my power and all my activities to bring this woman and children home. At the beginning of the war, we were taken to more than 200 European countries, but there was no relief. Every time, it is harder and harder to find a place to prepare for it. Our viewers around the world, I'm Albert Lewitson, reporting from the I-24 News Headquarters in Tel Aviv. We begin with breaking news. American B-1 bombers have bombed at least seven locations, at least 85 targets in both Syria and Western Iraq. There are three areas in Iraq and four areas in Syria. More than 125 precision munitions have been dropped. Iran has responded, saying the U.S. strike violates Syrian and Iraqi sovereignty and there are reports. U.S. bases have been attacked by drones, but the Pentagon has not yet confirmed these reports. Now as for the war in Israel, there is a report in the Wall Street Journal that there is internal strife within Hamas about accepting a cease-fire deal. Yahya Sinwar is said to want a six-week halt so that they can regroup. While Pulup Yura head Ismail Hainea is pushing for a permanent cease-fire with international guarantees and a plan for rebuilding Gaza. This all comes as Hamas and Islamic Jihad issued a joint statement last night saying that any hostage deal must include complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and a permanent cease-fire. Meanwhile, Algeria has pushed the United Nations Resolution inside the United Nations in New York to call for an immediate cease-fire. The Americans say this resolution could put sensitive negotiations in jeopardy. The United States could veto any resolution. So now let's go back to our top story. American forces bombed 85 targets overnight. Live team coverage begins with I-24 news correspondent Jonathan Regev with the latest. Jonathan, the president says the United States says it's the first action of many. But a lot of people are saying it had no effect. It had no effect because I think the United States practically advised the whole world that this is beginning. There was word of B1 bombers taking off from Britain, I believe, hours before they reached their destination. There's also reports that the Iraqi government got an early warning saying where and when the attack will come. That is why, despite the fact that we're speaking of what, 85 different strikes, seven different locations, 125 precise munitions, we're speaking of six terrorists killed in those locations. That is because they were well aware of when and where the attack will come and they had the time to leave. There was material damage and we should not underestimate that. We saw in the images, a lot of those places, once they were attacked, we actually saw rockets coming, firing themselves to the air, showing that these places had a lot of munitions in there. These are important targets. But as a fact, as terrorists getting killed, that did not happen, at least not in big amounts. This, as you mentioned, is the first American response. Will there be others we would have to see? And one other important thing to mention, nothing happening in Iran itself. Iranian proxies in Syria, in Iraq, yes. In Iran itself, no. Great, Jonathan, while you're there, you're in the southern part of Israel on the border with Gaza. About 30 minutes ago, there were some air raid sirens that went off. This is day 120 of the war. Yes. And don't expect them to end any time soon. Hamas is, we're not seeing a lot of these red alert sirens, very few of them. And because Hamas is saving its rockets, they understand that, yes, we're speaking of a ceasefire deal that may happen soon. But that doesn't mean that the war is over. And even if a deal will come into effect right before it will come into effect, we'll see rockets being fired. And let's remember, it was earlier this week when we saw rockets being fired as far as Tel Aviv. I believe it was Monday. So the ability is still there. Of course, Hamas cannot fire the hundreds and hundreds of rockets per day that we saw in the beginning. But a rocket here, a rocket there, far enough for us to speak about it. And to disturb anyone living there, that still exists. Final question to you, Jonathan. There are some stories that are going around that the IDF has dropped leaflets to try to get some of the residents of Gaza to rebel against Hamas. That's not unlike that's the tactic that's been used many times before. Yes, absolutely. Trying. Let's remember this war is a word of a war of perception, a war of propaganda. And Israel wants to perhaps persuade the Gaza population to rebel against Hamas, which is the one responsible for this situation that the Gazans are living. No one I think in Israel is doubting the fact that the Gazan population is the one suffering. And Hamas is responsible for that. Will that achieve its goal? I'm not so sure. There are so many opportunities for the Gazan population to rebel against Hamas. They never did. I'm not sure they will do it this time. Jonathan Regev, studio defense correspondent for I-24 News reporting live from the southern part of Israel on the border with Gaza. Thanks so much. Let's go back to our top story, the American bombing in Iraq and Syria. Iran's President Ibrahim Reisi has responded. Take a listen. Before, whenever the Americans wanted to talk to Iran, like any other country, they said that the military option is on the table. Now, you do not hear these words anymore. They even say we have no intention of any conflict with Iran. This is the power of our religious people who are always present, which are considered so important for our country. Armed forces are powerful and are always present. We've said many times we will not initiate any war, but if anyone wants to bully us, Iran will respond firmly. I'm joined in studio by Dan Perry, international affairs analyst and the former Europe and Middle East editor for the Associated Press. Dan, thanks so much for coming in. Dan, a tweet by the President of the United States says that the United States doesn't want war. Iran says they don't want war. So what are we, what's happening here? Both of them can't be right. Iran doesn't want them being placated in the war that it, in fact, carries out through proxies. And the question is whether the world has the ability and the willingness to call that bluff. The Americans are calibrating between their two needs, one to deliver a message that is effective and the other to not cause a massive escalation that they genuinely don't want. The thing about Israel's war in Gaza, by the way, that Israel no longer is calibrating. October 7th changed many things, including the notion of avoiding catastrophe. Israel's willing to risk catastrophe in order to achieve its goals. I don't think America is quite yet after the deaths of three soldiers in Jordan, which it blames on Iran. But what this clearly is, is the potential for escalation. I would, I would take Iranian denials at, not at face value. I would say that their protestations of innocence have, it's a question of implausible deniability. And that's, that's the case. Let's talk about the fact that the Iraqis have asked the Shorjad affair, the American Shorjad affair to come in. But meanwhile, they were told in advance that this was going to happen. The Iraq is not occupied by Iran, but it's very much under the influence of Iran. It's a Shiite government. They allow Shiite militias to run riot. They don't have control over a third of their country. And I mean, whatever Iraq says basically is always with a view to not upsetting Iran. And with the need of the Shiite-led government to be aligned with Iran, it's a little bit rich to hear Iran talking about the sovereignty of Syrian Iraq when, I mean, good Lord, their interference around the entire region from Yemen to Lebanon is legion shameless and sadly affected. But there's a, there's also, let's go back to the United States for a moment, because there was a lot of pushback. There was a lot of screening from the Republicans at both in the Senate, the Senate Armed Services Committee in the, on the Congress from the Republicans saying two things. One, too late, that it should have been done long ago. And then also, you're not doing enough. There is one senator from Mississippi who basically said what you're giving the Iranians is more of a slap on the wrist than on a punch in the nose. I think that's undeniable. The hope on the administration side is that the slap in the wrist will somehow suffice, both to modify the demands in the U.S. for some kind of response and to cause the Iranians to step back a little bit. I have doubt whether that will be effective, frankly. But I have sympathy also for the reluctance to engage in a full-scale and direct war with Iran. But there's also this notion that maybe the best way for the Americans to handle it is much the way that the Trump administration did back a few years back where they did surgical strikes. They killed Soleimani in just as a one-drop bomb and then walked away as opposed to a bombing of many different areas far away, not even on Iranian territory. The assassination of Soleimani certainly was a high point in America's war against Iranian malfeasance in the region. But was it effective? Has Iran really been deterred? So far, I think it's reasonable to conclude that the only thing that will genuinely change the equation in the Middle East is the collapse of the Islamic Republic. But that's the only way to do that is by force. Or by true diplomatic and commercial and financial and strategic isolation. For that, the U.S. would have to organize a coalition that would include India and China and make it impossible for a rant to function. And of course, whenever you do such a thing, you face the reasonable criticism that you're impoverishing the population and the government, which is not a bunch of good Samaritans, but doesn't really care because it rules by force anyway. But it is in a nature of dictatorial regimes that they seem invulnerable until they collapse in a very big noise in a day after known amidst ever having supported them. So that's one of the reasons why there's some in Congress in the U.S. who are basically sanctions on the oil industry is the way to go. Sanctions on business is the way to go as opposed to military strike. Sure, but in the past sanctions didn't work because they weren't airtight, partly because of China. So you can't make war with everyone and have a coalition that's effective. If the U.S. wants to take on Iran, they have to do more to find a modus vivendi with China. And of course, that has its own challenges that could involve sacrificing Taiwan. It's a very messy landscape in the world in 2024. I mean, they got to have to ever quote Nile Ferguson, but I'm going to quote Nile Ferguson because he says that we are living in a pre-war era right now, not a post-war era right now. He's of the notion that the only way to have peace is through arms, through war. That's his notion. I didn't think I'd ever quote Samuel Huntington, but I fear that it looks like we are indeed in the clash of civilizations as well. Yeah. Or they're run up to me. So the idea that Biden is sort of this Neville Chamberlain idea of like we're just appeasing Iran just to make sure that we don't want to have a war. We don't want to have a war. Whatever we do, we don't want war and this is the way to do it. Let me just say one thing about Chamberlain who gets a lot of bad press. The actual acquiescence came from his predecessors. He was not the only force behind the Munich agreement. He was trying to fix something created by predecessors. When it comes to Iran, when it comes to the many things about the Middle East that basically need a complete revision, re-think, it's not Biden and it isn't even Trump. I fear that we got it wrong in the Middle East for the past 80 years or so. While we're talking about Biden, it's election season in America and an increasing proportion of American adults believe that Israel's military response in Gaza has gone too far. That was part of the quote in the poll. And that's a poll that was, it's conducted by Associated Press that came out yesterday. This comes at a time when the coalition that helped President Joe Biden with Michigan in 2020 could be showing some cracks. He visited that key battleground state on Thursday to pitch his campaign to a room full of United Arab workers. Michigan also has a very large Arab American population, some of whom showed up to protest Biden's support of Israel's action in Gaza. But between the enthusiasm of the members of the labor union and the anger of the Muslim community, there's a lack of enthusiasm about the idea of a rematch between Biden and Donald Trump. Let's get more from CNN's Jeff Zellani, who talks to those on the ground and who say the biggest challenge facing the Biden campaign is rebuilding his coalition. As pastor of King Solomon Baptist Church in Detroit, Williams was on the front lines of soaring turnout among black voters four years ago. He believes Biden can't win re-election through fear of Trump alone. It's almost like your big brother and your big sister saying the bookie man is under the bed, the bookie man is under the bed. Sooner or later, you figure, you know, is it really a bookie man? You realize maybe this guy ain't the bookie man. One of the biggest tests facing the president is piecing together a vast fraying coalition, particularly in Michigan. Trump carried the state in 2016, along with Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. But Biden flipped all three in 2020, a blue wall that led to victory. His challenges are complicated by anger among Muslims and Arab Americans over the Israel-Hamas war, made clear by relentless protests, including as the president visited Michigan. Adam Abu-Salah worked as a field organizer for the Biden campaign four years ago. He said he will not vote for the president again, seeing him as complicit in deaths of innocent Palestinians. By taking this stand, do you wonder if it will help elect Donald Trump? It probably will. We have seen four years of Trump, we have seen four years of Biden, and people don't really see a difference between their presidency. It was nearly four years ago when Biden pointedly presented himself as a bridge to the future. Look, I view myself as a bridge, not as anything else. There's an entire generation of leaders you saw stand behind me. They are the future of this country. They're the people we're going to. Those cheers rang out in the gymnasium of Detroit's Renaissance High, where these students are now following the presidential race. I don't feel like he represents the young voter demographic at all. It's the first time Imani Williams and her friends can vote. Dante Parker set a vote for Biden is hardly guaranteed. We've been stuck in this system for part too long. Maybe we need to venture outside of it to really make some progress now. The Biden campaign tells CNN it will draw sharp distinctions with Trump and earn the support of voters concerned about their rights, their pocketbooks, and our democracy. I'm rejoined by Dan Perry in studio. Dan, the polling that came out basically showed that most Americans, one out of two Americans feels that what the American administration is doing is not right with Israel. What Israel is doing is not right. Well, yes, but that goes in both directions. Some feel he's not supporting Israel enough. Biden, others more, I think, feel the opposite. The U.S., like most countries, is split on the question of the Gaza war. Indeed, Israel itself is split. But whether to prioritize hostages and do a deal now, perhaps leaving Hamas and power in parts of Gaza or vice versa. But Biden's problem is that in the swing states that he needs to carry, the margin last time was a few tens of thousands of votes. He can't lose any votes. And he needs both the opponents of the war in his coalition, which are the minorities, the Muslims, and the youth. And those who want to see continuous support for Israel, which is a Jews. So this has split his coalition in the Democratic Party in a way that could easily cause Trump to return to power. Clearly a problem not just for Biden, but whoever feels like that would be a global calamity. And there's a lot of people in that camp as well. But there's an issue also in terms of Israel's PR. And this is the point. Last night there were thousands of demonstrators out front of Columbia University. Nine people were arrested. It doesn't seem like the American government is able to or because they feel like the youth have bought into the idea that Israel has done wrong. Yeah, and the main problem indeed is the youth. Other polls showed that Biden's, what was a 10-point advantage for Biden in July with the youth of the U.S., registered voters, turned into a six-point deficit. That's a 16-point swing among key demographic that will only get larger as the years go by. Huge problem for Biden. The PR problem is dual. One, the 18 to 24 demographic really is distinct from everyone else, including the millennials are only slightly older. Every indication shows their tremendous skepticism about, well, democracy even, capitalism, liberalism, which includes free thought of an expression, and a near total buy-in to the narrative of a clash between the developed world and the global south, a need to make amends, a dislike of Western civilization to the point where the very idea is ridiculed and Israel slots into that. It's seen as a Western outpost in something approaching the global south, and with the youth, that is a really tough slog that a lot of smart people are going to have to think about in coming years. The other PR problem attaches to Israel's own actions in a broader sense because of what Israel does in West Bank, because of the perceptions about the right-wing government of Israel, even reasonable people find themselves being skeptical about Israel's motivations and actions, even as they support the Golan Gaza, which is the removal of a genuinely violent genocidal terrorist group that has taken hostage not just a couple of hundred people in Israel, but two and a half million Palestinians. What is Israel supposed to do? Say, okay, what we'll do is we'll build a wall. We'll build a wall, complete wall, and we'll shut everyone out. We'll repatriate the 50,000 Israelis that are there. I mean, is that going to change the minds, 500,000, sorry? If you want, we can certainly talk about a reasonable way to reboot the Middle East. October 7th, while it changed a lot of things, didn't change the essence, which is Israel plus West Bank plus Gaza is less than half Jewish. And if Israel wishes to be a Jewish state, then it must, must partition. The problem is that these areas are also too close to Israeli population centers. There is too much hostility among Palestinians. They have been in the thrall of their radical elements. They've allowed militias to flower, and the result is a genuine danger on a security front. So the question is, for Israel, how do you square the circle? I'm afraid the Israelis have gotten used to their security drug, which is the occupation, but that drug is also killing them in the long term. So absolutely, there needs to be a partition. It can't be overnight because of the security problem, but it isn't 500,000 settlers that need to be moved. If you make the security fence line, the future border, then only about 80,000 settlers are deep inside. And that is a problem that can probably be resolved. By the way, so many things need to change. There are not 5 million Palestinian refugees or descendants of refugees. That problem is fixable. Israel certainly has to insist on an educational system in Palestine that doesn't educate the youth to jihad. Israel also has to accept that it cannot settle lands with Jews and its towns for Jews only, that it hasn't annexed and doesn't really claim. So many things have to change in this region, but primarily, I think, the militias have to go. A future Palestine will need to be demilitarized and cannot possibly have Islamic jihad and Hamas militias. Same in Lebanon with his bowl, by the way. Dan Perry, always a pleasure to have you come in with your insight. Dan Perry, International Affairs Analyst and former Middle East editor for the AP. Thank you again. It's been exactly 17 weeks since October the 7th. 15-year-old Daphne and her eight-year-old sister, Eli Akeem, spent 51 days in captivity. After they were kidnapped by Hamas and Kibbutz Nahal Oz 17 weeks ago, now Daphne is recounting what happened to her family on that fateful day. She's trying to get back to normal, but she's a teenager. So trying to get back to normal, just dealing with life, has become a challenge. Take a look. It's 65 days that they've been here, adapting to life's new reality since their release from captivity in Gaza. 15-year-old Daphne and eight-year-old Ella getting used to a new house in the city, to a reality without Daddy Noam, without his partner, Dickler, and their step-brother, Tomer, who were all murdered on that dark Sabbath. I brought my backpack from Nahal Oz. There's blood on it, my father's blood here, and on my pencil case. It was Tomer's backpack. Now it's with me. It's pretty, right? Through no choice of their own, they became all our girls. Two sisters kidnapped from their beds to Gaza alone, without mom, without dad, forced to leave behind all that ever made them feel safe. Now they have to try to relearn how to live. What's the hardest part of going back to a routine? That I don't have my father, who used to wake me up for school, so him not being here for that. Tomer and I used to walk to school together every day. Hence the backpack. It's like keeping him with me. I can't talk about it. I'll cry. It's hard. Is it okay if we talk about that Sabbath? Yes. It started in the morning with the sirens, a lot of red alerts, and then a half an hour later, I think maybe an hour, they entered the kibbutz. Then my father came into my room with Diklah and Tomer and put the three of us, myself Tomer and Ella, under the bed and told us to be quiet. They came in the house and started shooting, shot the door and hit my dad in the leg. Then they pulled us from under the bed. They were live streaming it. One of the most memorable videos from the 7th of October is a wicked Facebook live, the terrorists filmed in Daphne and Ella's home. The video shows father Noam wounded in the leg with a shocked and scared Daphne at his side. Ella is sitting on Diklah's knees, Noam's partner. Her son Tomer is taken outside by the terrorists. Only a few days later will the full video come out, showing them taking Tomer out for him to knock on neighbors doors to lure them out. Did you understand where they took him? They said they need a Tomer to go open the doors to the houses so that people would come out. They said he'd be okay that they wouldn't harm him as long as he didn't try anything. Then the Hamas terrorists took us to our car and drove off. And then some other terrorists shot at our car, thinking we were civilians trying to escape. They shot and killed Diklah. She died instantly. They took us to Gaza. So many people tried to reach us and harm us, so the terrorists took us up to an apartment and kept us there until an ambulance came. What were the days like over there? Difficult. All I could think of was how my family was, my friends, what's happening in Israel, if they got to the whole country, if they destroyed Israel, if they had conquered it. Two weeks before their release, they were moved to the tunnels there. They met five kidnapped young women who remain in captivity. This is Liri, Nama, this is Romi, Agam. You were with the four of them together? Yeah, and Emily Damari as well. It was on the third day of releases that their names showed up on the list. Around six o'clock in the evening, wearing long braids, Daphna and Ella could suddenly be seen walking towards the Red Cross's White Cheap. Do you remember the moment of your return? Not really. I thought it was, I thought maybe it was a bluff that I was still in Gaza. Israel is in a state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front lines, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. At the beginning of the war, we were captured by the Kurds of Europe. Now we already have more than 200 of them, and there are also not many of them in Liri. This time, we will find the places to prepare for them. This week, on News 24, Israel under attack. News 24 in Spanish brings the analysis and the information of the events of the war, Iron Spades, exclusive interviews and reports from the war zone, the reaction of Spanish-speaking countries. News 24, the only Spanish medium that keeps you informed and connected with the Latin community in Israel. News 24, only on I-24 News. News headquarters in Tel Aviv, we begin with breaking news. American B-1 bombers have bombed at least seven locations, at least 85 targets in both Syria and Western Iraq, the three areas in Iraq and four areas in Syria. More than 125 precision munitions have been dropped. Iran has responded, saying the U.S. strike violates Syrian and Iraqi sovereignty, and there are reports. U.S. bases have been attacked by drones, but the Pentagon has not yet confirmed these reports. Now as for the war in Israel, there is a report in the Wall Street Journal that there is internal strife within Hamas about accepting a ceasefire deal. Yahya Sinwar is said to want a six-week halt so that they can regroup, while Politburo head Ismail Hainea is pushing for a permanent ceasefire, with international guarantees and a plan for rebuilding Gaza. This all comes as Hamas and Islamic Jihad issued a joint statement last night, saying that any hostage deal must include complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza and a permanent ceasefire. Meanwhile, Algeria has pushed the United Nations Resolution inside the United Nations in New York to call for an immediate ceasefire. The Americans say this resolution could put sensitive negotiations in jeopardy. The United States could veto any resolution. So now let's go back to our top story. American forces bomb 85 targets overnight. Live team coverage begins with I-24 news correspondent Jonathan Reagan with the latest. Jonathan, the president says the United States says it's the first action of many, but a lot of people are saying it had no effect. It had no effect because I think the United States practically advised the whole world that this is a beginning. There was word of B-1 bombers taking off from Britain, I believe, hours before they reached their destination. There's also reports that the Iraqi government got an early warning saying where and when the attack will come. That is why, despite the fact that we're speaking of what, 85 different strikes, seven different locations, 125 precise munitions, we're speaking of six terrorists killed in those locations. That is because they were well aware of when and where the attack will come, and they had the time to leave. There was material damage, and we should not underestimate that. We saw in the images a lot of those places, once they were attacked, we actually saw rockets coming, firing themselves to the air, showing that these places had a lot of munitions in there. These are important targets, but as terrorists getting killed, that did not happen, at least not in big amounts. This, as you mentioned, is the first American response. Will there be others we would have to see? One other important thing to mention, nothing happening in Iran itself. Iranian proxies in Syria, in Iraq, yes, in Iran itself, no. Great, Jonathan, while you're there, you're in the southern part of Israel on the border with Gaza. There were about 30 minutes ago, there were some air raid sirens that went off. This is day 120 of the war. Yes, and don't expect them to end any time soon. Hamas is, we're not seeing a lot of these red alert sirens, very few of them, and because Hamas is saving its rockets, they understand that. Yes, we're speaking of a ceasefire deal that may happen soon, but that doesn't mean that the war is over, and even if a deal will come into effect right before it will come into effect, we'll see rockets being fired. And let's remember, it was earlier this week when we saw rockets being fired as far as Tel Aviv, I believe it was Monday. So the ability is still there. Of course, Hamas cannot fire the hundreds and hundreds of rockets per day that we saw in the beginning, but a rocket here, a rocket there, far enough for us to speak about it and to disturb anyone living there, that still exists. Final question to you, Jonathan. There's some stories that are going around that the IDF has dropped leaflets to try to get some of the residents of Gaza to rebel against Hamas. That's not, that's the tactic that's been used many times before. Yes, absolutely. Trying, let's remember this war is a word of a war, of perception, a war of propaganda, and Israel wants to perhaps persuade the Gazan population to rebel against Hamas, which is the one responsible for this situation that the Gazans are living. No one, I think, in Israel has any, is doubting the fact that the Gazan population is the one suffering, and Hamas is responsible for that. Will that achieve its goal? I'm not so sure. There are so many opportunities for the Gazan population to rebel against Hamas. They never did. I'm not sure they will do it this time. Jonathan Regev, studio defense correspondent for I-24 News, reporting live from the southern part of Israel on the border with Gaza. Thanks so much. Let's go back to our top story, the American bombing in Iraq and Syria. Iran's President Ibrahim Reesey has responded. Take a listen. Before, whenever the Americans wanted to talk to Iran, like any other country, they said that the military option is on the table. Now, you do not hear these words anymore. They even say we have no intention of any conflict with Iran. This is the power of our religious people who are always present, which are considered so important for our country. Our armed forces are powerful and are always present. We have said many times we will not initiate any war, but if anyone wants to bully us, Iran will respond firmly. I'm joined in the studio by Dan Perry, international affairs analyst and the former Europe and Middle East editor for the Associated Press. Dan, thanks so much for coming in. Dan, a tweet by the President of the United States says that the United States doesn't want war. Iran says they don't want war. So what are we, what's happening here? Well, both of them can't be right. Iran doesn't want them being implicated in the war that it in fact carries out through proxies. And the question is whether the world has the ability and the willingness to call that bluff. The Americans are calibrating between their two needs, one to deliver a message that is effective and the other to not cause a massive escalation that they genuinely don't want. The thing about Israel's war on Gaza, by the way, that Israel no longer is calibrating. October 7th changed many things, including the notion of avoiding catastrophe. Israel's willing to risk catastrophe in order to achieve its goals. I don't think America is quite yet after the deaths of three soldiers in Jordan, which it blames on Iran. But what this clearly is, is the potential for escalation. I would take Iranian denials at not at face value. I would say that their protestations of innocence have, it's a question of implausible deniability. And that's the case. Let's talk about the fact that the Iraqis have asked the Shorjad Affair, the American Shorjad Affair to come in. But meanwhile they were told in advance that this was going to happen. The Iraq is not occupied by Iran, but it's very much under the influence of Iran. It's a Shiite government. They allow Shiite militias to run riot. They don't have control over a third of their country. And I mean, whatever Iraq says basically is always with a view to not upsetting Iran and with the need of the Shiite-led government to be aligned with Iran. It's a little bit rich to hear Iran talking about the sovereignty of Syrian Iraq when, I mean, good lord, their interference around the entire region from Yemen to Lebanon is legion shameless and sadly affected. But there's also, let's go back to the United States for a moment because there was a lot of pushback. There was a lot of screaming from the Republicans, both in the Senate, the Senate Armed Services Committee and Congress from the Republicans saying two things. One, too late. It should have been done long ago. And then also, you're not doing enough. There is one senator from Mississippi who basically said what you're giving the Iranians is more of a slap on the wrist than on a punch in the nose. I think that's undeniable. The hope on the administration side is that the slap in the wrist will somehow suffice both to mollify the demands in the US for some kind of response and to cause the Iranians to step back a little bit. I have doubt whether that will be effective, frankly. But I have sympathy also for the reluctance to engage in a full-scale and direct war with Iran. But there's also this notion that maybe the best way for the Americans to handle it is much the way that the Trump administration did back a few years back where they did surgical strikes. They killed Soleimani in just as a one-drop bomb and then walked away as opposed to a bombing of many different areas far away, not even on Iranian territory. The assassination of Soleimani certainly was a high point in America's war against Iranian malfeasance in the region. But was it effective? Has Iran really been deterred? So far, I think it's reasonable to conclude that the only thing that will genuinely change the equation in the Middle East is the collapse of the Islamic Republic. But that's the only way to do that is by force. Or by true diplomatic and commercial and financial and strategic isolation. For that, the US would have to organize a coalition that would include India and China and make it impossible for a rant to function. And of course, whenever you do such a thing, you face the reasonable criticism that you're impoverishing the population and the government, which is not a bunch of good Samaritans, doesn't really care because it rules by force anyway. But it is in a nature of dictatorial regimes that they seem invulnerable until they collapse in a very big noise in a day after known amidst ever having supported them. So that's one of the reasons why there's some in Congress in the US who are basically saying sanctions on the oil industry is the way to go. Sanctions on business is the way to go as opposed to military strike. Sure, but in the past sanctions didn't work because they weren't airtight, partly because of China. So you can't make war with everyone and have a coalition that's effective. If the US wants to take on Iran, they have to do more to find a modus vivendi with China. And of course that has its own challenges that could involve sacrificing Taiwan. It's a very messy landscape in the world in 2024. I don't think I have to ever quote Niall Ferguson, but I'm going to quote Niall Ferguson because he says that we are living in a pre-war era right now, not a post-war era right now. He's of the notion that the only way to have peace is through arms, through war. That's his notion. I didn't think I'd ever quote Samuel Huntington, but I fear that it looks like we are indeed in a clash of civilizations as well. We are. Or the run up to. So the idea that Biden is sort of this Neville Chamberlain idea, like we're just appeasing Iran just to make sure that we don't want to have a war. We don't want to have a war. Whatever we do, we don't want war. And this is the way to do it. Let me just say one thing about Chamberlain who gets a lot of bad press. The actual acquiescence came from his predecessors. He was not the only force behind the Munich agreement. He was trying to fix something created by predecessors. When it comes to Iran, when it comes to the many things about the Middle East that basically need a complete revision, re-think, it's not Biden and it isn't even Trump. I fear that we got it wrong in the Middle East for the past 80 years or so. While we're talking about Biden, its election season in America and an increasing proportion of American adults believe that Israel's military response in Gaza has gone too far. That was part of the quote in the poll. And that's a poll that was conducted by Associated Press that came out yesterday. This comes at a time when the coalition that helped President Joe Biden with Michigan in 2020 could be showing some cracks. He visited that key battleground state on Thursday to pitch his campaign to a room full of the United Auto Workers. Michigan also has a very large Arab American population, some of whom showed up to protest Biden's support of Israel's action in Gaza. But between the enthusiasm of the members of the labor union and the anger of the Muslim community, there's a lack of enthusiasm about the idea of a rematch between Biden and Donald Trump. Let's get more from CNN's Jeff Zellani, who talks to those on the ground and who say the biggest challenge facing the Biden campaign is rebuilding his coalition. It's like two, just the two old white guys duking it out. Reverend Charles Williams is bracing for a rematch between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, exhausted at the notion of a nine-month battle for the White House. Some may feel I don't have any hope in a Donald Trump or I don't have a hope in a Joe Biden. As pastor of King Solomon Baptist Church in Detroit, Williams was on the front lines of soaring turnout among black voters four years ago. He believes Biden can't win re-election through fear of Trump alone. It's almost like your big brother and your big sister saying, the bookie man is under the bed, the bookie man is under the bed. Sooner later you figure, you know, is it really a bookie man? You realize maybe this guy ain't the bookie man. One of the biggest tests facing the president is piecing together a vast fraying coalition, particularly in Michigan. Trump carried the state in 2016 along with Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, but Biden flipped all three in 2020, a blue wall that led to victory. His challenges are complicated by anger among Muslims and Arab Americans over the Israel Hamas war, made clear by relentless protests, including as the president visited Michigan. Adam Abu Salah worked as a field organizer for the Biden campaign four years ago. He said he will not vote for the president again, seeing him as complicit in deaths of innocent Palestinians. By taking this stand, do you wonder if it will help elect Donald Trump? It probably will. We have seen four years of Trump. We have seen four years of Biden, and people don't really see a difference between their presidency. It was nearly four years ago when Biden pointedly presented himself as a bridge to the future. Look, I view myself as a bridge, not as anything else. There's an entire generation of leaders you saw stand behind me. They are the future of this country. They're the people we're going to. Those cheers rang out in the gymnasium of Detroit's Renaissance High, where these students are now following the presidential race. I don't feel like he represents the young voter demographic at all. It's the first time Imani Williams and her friends can vote. Dante Parker set a vote for Biden is hardly guaranteed. We've been stuck in this system for part of too long. Maybe we need to venture outside of it to really make some progress now. The Biden campaign tells CNN it will draw sharp distinctions with Trump and earn the support of voters concerned about their rights, their pocketbooks and our democracy. I'm rejoined by Dan Perry in studio. Dan, the polling that came out basically showed that most Americans, one out of two Americans feels that what the American administration is doing is not right with Israel. What Israel is doing is not right. Well, yes, but that goes in both directions. Some feel he's not supporting Israel enough. Biden, others more, I think, feel the opposite. The U.S., like most countries, is split on the question of the Gaza War. Indeed, Israel itself is split. But whether to prioritize the hostages and do a deal now, perhaps leaving Hamas and power in parts of Gaza or vice versa. But Biden's problem is that in the swing states that he needs to carry, the margin last time was a few tens of thousands of votes. He can't lose any votes. And he needs both the opponents of the war in his coalition, which are the minorities, the Muslims and the youth, and those who want to see continued support for Israel, which is the Jews. So this has split his coalition in the Democratic Party in a way that could easily cause Trump to return to power. Clearly, a problem not just for Biden, but whoever feels like that would be a global calamity. And there's a lot of people in that camp as well. But there's an issue also in terms of Israel's PR. And this is the point, last night there were thousands of demonstrators out front of Columbia University, nine people were arrested. It doesn't seem like the American government is able to or because they feel like the youth have bought into the idea that Israel has done wrong. Yeah. And the main problem indeed is the youth. Other polls showed that Biden's, what was a 10-point advantage for Biden in July with the youth of the U.S. registered voters turned into a six-point deficit. That's a 16-point swing. I'm going to key demographic that will only get larger as the years go by. Huge problem for Biden. The PR problem is dual. One, the 18 to 24 demographic really is distinct from everyone else, including the millennials are only slightly older. Every indication shows there are tremendous skepticism about, well, democracy even, capitalism, liberalism, which includes free thought of an expression and a near total buy-in to the narrative of a clash between the developed world and the global south. A need to make amends, a dislike of Western civilization to the point where the very idea is ridiculed. And Israel slots into that. It's seen as a Western outpost in something approaching the global south. And with the youth, that is a really tough slog that a lot of smart people are going to have to think about in coming years. The other PR problem attaches to Israel's own actions in a broader sense, because of what Israel does in West Bank, because of the perceptions about the right-wing government of Israel, even reasonable people find themselves being skeptical about Israel's motivations and actions, even as they support the Golan Gaza, which is the removal of a genuinely vile and genocidal terrorist group that has taken hostage not just a couple of hundred people in Israel, but two and a half million Palestinians. But what is Israel supposed to do? Say, okay, what we'll do is we'll build a wall. We'll build a wall, complete wall, and we'll shut everyone out. We'll repatriate the 50,000 Israelis that are there. I mean, is that going to change minds? 500,000, sorry. If you want, we can certainly talk about a reasonable way to reboot the Middle East. October 7th, while it changed a lot of things, didn't change the essence, which is Israel plus West Bank plus Gaza is less than half Jewish. And if Israel wishes to be a Jewish state, then it must, must partition. The problem is that these areas are also too close to Israeli population centers. There is too much hostility among Palestinians. They have been in the thrall of their radical elements. They've allowed militias to flower, and the result is a genuine danger on a security front. So the question is, for Israel, how do you square the circle? I'm afraid the Israelis have gotten used to their security drug, which is the occupation, but that drug is also killing them in the long term. So absolutely, there needs to be a partition. It can't be overnight because of the security problem, but it isn't 500,000 settlers that need to be moved. If you make the security fence line, the future border, then only about 80,000 settlers are deep inside. And that is a problem that can probably be resolved. By the way, so many things need to change. There are not 5 million Palestinian refugees. There are descendants of refugees. That problem is fixable. Israel certainly has to insist on an educational system in Palestine that doesn't educate the youth at Jihad. Israel also has to accept that it cannot settle lands with Jews and as towns for Jews only, that it hasn't annexed and doesn't really claim. So many things have to change in this region, but primarily I think the militias have to go. A future Palestine will need to be demilitarized and cannot possibly have Islamic Jihad and Hamas militias. Same in Lebanon with Hezbollah, by the way. Dan Perry, always a pleasure to have you come in with your insight. Dan Perry, International Affairs Analyst and former Middle East editor for the AP. Thank you again. You know, it's been exactly 17 weeks since October the 7th, 15-year-old Daphne and her eight-year-old sister Eli Akeem spent 51 days in captivity. After they were kidnapped by Hamas and Kibbutz Nahal Oz 17 weeks ago, now Daphne is recounting what happened to her family on that fateful day. She's trying to get back to normal, but you know she's a teenager, so trying to get back to normal and just dealing with life has become a challenge. Take a look. It's 65 days that they've been here, adapting to life's new reality since their release from captivity in Gaza. 15-year-old Daphne and eight-year-old Ella getting used to a new house in the city, to a reality without Daddy Noam, without his partner Dikler and their step-brother Tomer, who were all murdered on that dark Sabbath. I brought my backpack from Nahal Oz. There's blood on it. My father's blood here and on my pencil case. It was Tomer's backpack. Now it's with me. It's pretty, right? Through no choice of their own, they became all our girls. Two sisters kidnapped from their beds to Gaza alone, without mom, without dad, forced to leave behind all that ever made them feel safe. Now they have to try to relearn how to live. What's the hardest part of going back to a routine? I said I don't have my father, who used to wake me up for school, so him not being here for that. Tomer and I used to walk to school together every day. Hence the backpack. It's like keeping him with me. I can't talk about it. I'll cry. It's hard. Is it okay if we talk about that Sabbath? Yes. It started in the morning with the sirens, a lot of red alerts, and then a half an hour later, I think, maybe an hour, they entered the kibbutz. Then my father came into my room with Diklah and Tomer, and put the three of us, myself, Tomer and Ella, under the bed and told us to be quiet. They came in the house and started shooting. Shot the door and hit my dad in the leg. Then they pulled us from under the bed. They were live streaming it. One of the most memorable videos from the 7th of October is a wicked Facebook Live, the terrorists filmed in Daphne and Ella's home. The video shows father, Noam, wounded in the leg with a shocked and scared Daphne at his side. Ella is sitting on Diklah's knees, Noam's partner. Her son, Tomer, is taken outside by the terrorists. Only a few days later will the full video come out, showing them taking Tomer out for him to knock on neighbors' doors to lure them out. Did you understand where they took him? They said they need Tomer to go open the doors to the houses so that people would come out. They said he'd be okay that they wouldn't harm him as long as he didn't try anything. Then the Hamas terrorists took us to our car and drove off. And then some other terrorists shot at our car. Thinking we were civilians trying to escape. They shot and killed Diklah. She died instantly. They took us to Gaza. So many people tried to reach us and harm us, so the terrorists took us up to an apartment and kept us there until an ambulance came. What were the days like over there? Difficult. All I could think of was how my family was, my friends, what's happening in Israel, if they got to the whole country, if they destroyed Israel, if they had conquered it. Two weeks before their release, they were moved to the tunnels. There, they met five kidnapped young women who remain in captivity. This is Liri. This is Romi. Agam. You were with the four of them together? It was on the third day of releases that their names showed up on the list. Around six o'clock in the evening, wearing long braids, Daphna and Ella could suddenly be seen walking towards the Red Crosses White Cheap. Do you remember the moment of your return? Not really. I thought it was, I thought maybe it was a bluff that I was still in Gaza. I'm Albert Lewits and you're watching I2P. Is in a state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where she is. Our soldiers are fighting on the front lines, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. See what's going on today. It's starting from October 7th. Like everyone begins, because what happened before that, it looked like something that was created in the back of the Red Cross from the beginning. And like every time we, when there's a situation like this of the Red Crosses White Cheap and the rockets that we see, we get out of the Red Crosses. And we're all going to the Red Crosses White Cheap, which is actually really something like half an hour later, and we've already received a message from the Red Crosses White Cheap to the Red Crosses White Cheap. The Red Crosses White Cheap and it goes on and on. Everything is happening at the moment. Because you hear the voices in Arabic, you hear all the voices in Arabic and you say, I don't know, I understand. And then the Red Crosses White Cheap begins, with loops that don't know anything. And you still don't understand what's happening. The hour that I'm staying at home was something called the 11th, 11.30. I received a message from the Red Crosses White Cheap to the Red Crosses White Cheap, which was written in the Red Crosses White Cheap. I see the Red Crosses White Cheap here at home. I heard the voices. I saw the Red Crosses White Cheap and asked them to leave, they're here. We're at home, at school, and the Red Crosses White Cheaps are in the building. We heard them at the beginning of the Red Crosses White Cheap, with two girls, Emily and Hila. And then we heard them here at the end. They said to the girls, get dressed, get dressed, get dressed, get dressed, get dressed, and get dressed. And then we heard the voices at home. And the Red Crosses White Cheap, we were at the Red Crosses White Cheap. And we heard the voices at home. And Yossi says, I'm from the back, I'm from the back. So I heard the Red Crosses White Cheaps. And you know, it's really hard for them not to open the Red Crosses White Cheaps. So we gave them a surprise. And then it's the same thing, I saw this advice in person and was like, there's no way we could get it. What does it mean? And it feels like a scene where members join the Red Crosses WangOUT in a big시 where movement particulates. The Red Crosses White Cheaps And they said to the Red Crosses, she tells us all, Yossi, Annee and Hofer. And we say, don't hurt us and ask for it. Don't hurt us. Don't cut the yarn and put it in another layer. And then they start cutting it, cut it really big, like this, with scissors. And then they start making a moose cut on the threads. And I tell him, don't hurt them. My children, we are like this, we are still doing it. And that's what makes us stronger. With the scissors. No one is angry, no one is talking, everyone is silent. And we are walking like this in the house. We are going to the forest. We are sitting here in this forest. There. There are people. The soldier is standing here with the flag. Even if you see the flag's flag here, he will carry it with him. And he will throw the flag. And he will cry. A Jewish soldier, one of the Palestinians, Nadea Israel, Mephish Israel, in the wild, all the time. All the time, the wilds, and the Arabs, and the terrorists want. And we are standing there, and waiting to see what... They bring us here. And they take us from here, like this. You don't think, you come here, all of us together. And there, in the wild, a little bit like this, two soldiers enter the forest, and the car was open. It was a joke. They enter the Yossi, the Yossi from this side, and Yubal comes to enter with him, he goes to the forest, and then he goes in. And then he comes out, and he calls his mother, he always comes here, he says to her, enter the forest, enter this direction, this is the last point that I saw the Yossi. We are here, we stayed here, we are standing here, standing with two soldiers, who just wanted to this side of the... of all the soldiers, and to the forest, we stayed here. And then I told them, okay, come, we have to, we have to get to the forest, it's impossible to stay here, in the middle, in the middle of the forest. And we came from here. I left the tent, and it's a house that the soldiers were already in, because all the soldiers there, all over, went into the tent, and we are standing in the middle of the house, and I went to see where there is a sign, the sign of the sign was the sign, so we just went back to the area. And then, we just went there, to the house, with my hands on the... with my hands on the head, and all the time we thought that there would be other signs, and it was the first time that everyone in Helm tried to understand who was there, who wasn't there, that everything was in one big order. So we got a sign that says, Yossi is dead, and he is alive and dead, and after a while we realized that he is also dead. Look, I'm standing on the tent, I know what's going on there. Every moment that passes and we are there, it's time to die. It's time for everyone to be there. Few other people can currently be identified more with the word Kibbutz than Dr. Alon Parker. He is a historian who researched the history of this unique Israeli socialist phenomenon. He's also a member of Kibbutz Bayeri, the son of one of the founders of Kibbutz near Oz, two of the main sites which were attacked in the Hamas onslaught on October 7th. We know everybody. I mean, 94 members and children and all people from our, eldest from our community were murdered. I know them all. Think about the 9-11 in the United States. Nobody knows 94 of the people that were killed. Parker himself managed to survive since the terrorist didn't attack his home, but he's still broken at the devastation of Bayeri. Nonetheless, he sees this event as a turning point which may change the image of the Kibbutz movement among Israelis. The government in the 19th decided that there is no need to build anymore rural settlements. And now, are we old these points of settlement until all the feminists will be able to come back? Maybe we have to do a semi-armist soldiers like it was, you know, we call it in Hebrew, the history of the Kibbutz movement goes back to the early 20th century. Jewish pioneers who fled the pogroms in Eastern Europe came to the land of Israel with a revolutionary idea. A socialist village where everyone is equal. There is no private income or possession and most of the decisions are taken by all members. This utopian society flourished in the years to come. People all over the world came to see how pure socialism was accomplished in the land of Israel. But Dr. Pauker says that the independence of Israel in 1948 also worked against the Kibbutz movement. Kibbutz is one of the 11 point operation and it was the biggest operation of the Zionist movement until the establishment of the state of Israel. After the establishment of the state of Israel you don't need basically pioneering because you have the state bureaucracy. Beginning in the 1960s people from all over the world came to Israel to volunteer at Kibbutz. Even celebrities like Italian actress Sofia Lorraine pay the visit. Pauker says that the 1977 elections which brought the right-wing liquid party under Menachem Begging to power was one of the turning points when the Kibbutz became less popular and started to fade. The Kibbutz started to be like a target for everybody to be against them. They don't work the ground and make agriculture and cultivate the desert. No, they stole or like they took the ground. Other developments such as internal conflicts and international events like the collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s led to the decline of the Kibbutz movement. Today only 10 percent of the Kibbutz team remain collective communities and other features such as the collective children's house have completely disappeared. Ironically, most of the Kibbutz which kept their collective nature remained wealthy. Beiri is one of them. But October 7 returned the Kibbutz movement to the headlines in Israel and worldwide. It's one world, community. And equal community or a collective community double the meaning of community. I mean, we are not better than the people from Ophakim, from the towns, from the road. But when you see them in the hotels they are not communities. Everyone stands among this disaster, a terrible event. They stand alone. And we have the power of the togetherness. Dr. Parker also thinks the coronavirus pandemic was a turning point in the way people see what he defines as renewal Kibbutzim, a new type of semi-collective community which has some elements of privatization. I have a paper about it in the Kibbutz newspaper that they wrote. The Kibbutz movement is finished, totally. That the renewal Kibbutzim will be just pointing the way of being a totally regular settlement. And then, so again, especially after the COVID-19 crisis, that this soft social democrat way of life is working. As we walk in the broken Kibbutz we see some of the sites which became symbols of this horrific attack, such as the house of the Bachar family where two members were murdered. This place called the Founder's House is the local club where members of the Kibbutz gather and celebrate special events. The night before October 7, residents of Be'eri marked 77 years since the foundation of the Kibbutz. Among the participants was Ronny Levy, who died in the Hamas onslaught. The anniversary celebration of 77 anniversary of Be'eri from 46 to 2023. To celebrate what was childhood in the Kibbutz, where there were songs and stories, and we went to sleep at night so proud about what we are and then wake on the morning to this disaster. Looking inside the rubble raises questions about the future of Kibbutz Be'eri and its ability to rebuild this beautiful site. Other questions on the table are how to commemorate the tragedy of October 7. And we can get help and we can have discussions with others. We don't know everything but the decisions it's of very members. The decision who will live here we had some clues about okay we will bring others to live here or something like that. Kibbutz Be'eri belongs to its members and the members will decide and we didn't have yet this discussion. Kibbutz Be'eri became one of the strongest icons of October 7 and remains a symbol not just for the many tragedies and loss but also of the resilience and strength of its members. The Kibbutz is now walking on a permanent residency for its community. It is still too soon to see the long-term impact of October 7 on the Kibbutz movement. But there is no doubt that those events will change the course of its history forever. Hundreds of children are receiving a much needed stroke of good luck. This is really important for us to let them like forget the trauma they felt before we came here and let them to try to really cure themselves. Since October 7 these kids from Skirot's religious community have been cooped up and living out of a suitcase in the Ramada Hotel in Jerusalem. Here we provide three meals a day. We arrive to an extreme of between 1,500 to 1,600 guests which we have to prepare breakfast, lunch, dinner meaning about 5,000 meals a day It's a huge operation. And the dedicated staff and team of volunteers have been lifesavers. It was my career I had a school of teaching swimming. When the war started in October 7 I was thinking what can I do? Do something for the people. So I come to this hotel. How does it feel to know that you're teaching these kids how to swim? Wonderful, wonderful. It gives me a lot of confidence and satisfaction when I see the kids very happy and learn to swim. A few days a week both girls and boys have been getting free swimming lessons and the free time for moms has also been a godsend. She didn't know how to swim and she's like about 10 years old and she was really afraid of water. She feels so self-esteem that she overcome on her challenge and I think it was big wow. Also my 5 year old boy for the first time it was amazing to see that a young boy like him knows how to swim even me, I don't know how to swim. You're next mom. And the kids even have stylish colorful swimwear to boot all thanks to a Canadian-Israeli couple with generous hearts. We wanted to help Amie Israel to do what we can to help we don't know Hebrew very well we approached the hotels with the religious community because they'd be the ones who'd be concerned about wearing the proper kind of swimwear. Marcy Rapp and her husband Harold began Marcy, modest swim and casual wear when they moved to Israel over a decade ago. But since October 7th the volunteers and Ramada's events and sales manager Yaakov Kessler called and the couple went into a big year. And he wanted us to provide around 250 pieces like for 250 children of Ramada for boys and girls with the Ramada logo on it so that the Ramada could give the kids swimming lessons. And it's fitting to note that all the swimwear is manufactured in Jerusalem by an Arab-Israeli family. They're a very, very good family and they're very helpful and they seem to like working with us. You know, are accusing us of being apartheid and all of this stuff. Israel is not apartheid. They do not genocide. We have a great economic relationship with our manufacturer and he does a lot of very good thing mid-spot for us and together as a team we were able to produce this within three days. So, for this swim moment in Israel's history I think it's part of therapy for them to make them release all the negative feelings they came here. We try to make this a period of time to look and remember it is a positive experience. Time will tell when the steroid evacuees can go back home and tourism can return. When will they go home? So, first of all that has to settle. Once it settles then the next thing is the airlines. When are they going to fly back? Hopefully, from previous experience tourism comes back quite quickly. What does quickly mean? Months? We hope. In Jerusalem, Emily Francis I-24 News This is Bargivoli 25 and her partner Itamar Kaplan 27. Both were evacuated from the northern Israeli city, Kiryat Shmona to Kibbutzamiad and are living on the autism spectrum. Wow. I don't know how I'm going through this really strongly until now. It's just been crazy. On October 7th Itamar was working at famed burger joint called Kvish 90. But as panic and anxiety rose he came home and they packed up immediately. After I came down we just decided both of us that we should just leave Kiryat Shmona the same day because it looks serious for me. Like 10 seconds you need to be in a safe area, even in a bomb shelter which is like how it's even possible. It's like we forgot that kind of routine. I remember the second Lebanon war. Their intuition was correct. So you stare at this point you know it's in my mentality it's just kind of like oh they shoot they throw stuff at us we'll throw stuff at them, we'll show how tough we are and like it will be over it was not, it's still going on so it's still dealing with that building up a routine trying to make things as normal as possible but every time you keep being reminded the situation isn't quite as you're used to it's not normal. Barr says staying busy is key for her. Learning to drive and reading books is just some of what she's doing. Somehow it was easier to get used to the change this time than like for Covid for example this time I was able to jump on my feet pretty quickly but also like the whole like the news for a little bit it affects me deeply it like puts me in like a very panicked feeling like I don't really know what to do and I feel very helpless I hate when things there's things that I can't control things that I have no ability to change The autism spectrum ranges in support needs. The Avne Derich organization where Barr works serves several special needs groups helping them live independently with an initial focus on autism There are different challenges for clients but for those who are program regulars it's about helping navigate through tough changes and obstacles The main difficulty is damage to routine and in needing the community they were used to in the torn sources of string there are those in areas that were not evacuated so anxiety uncertainty things in that realm Many issues are also situation specific for example dealing with landlords amid evacuations for those who joined at the start of the war in ball lists a range of aid provided Accessing things in an emergency meaning if someone is deaf and cannot hear the rocket sirens if there is a non-accessible bomb shelter someone who's been evacuated somewhere and no longer has access to the convenience store he's used to going to exhaustion of rights around the subject of the emergency and lastly alleviating anxiety She says that during times like this people who rely on support or have limitations are often neglected Despite a large chunk of staff absent for reserve duty the organization works day and night to provide services basically it's actually critical for self-esteem that our clients feel like they matter that life hasn't halted Bar and Itamar are moving to more permanent housing in Roche Pina close to Avne Derich's wartime facilities and a place where they can better go about their daily lives create a new beginning and a routine Itamar says being close to their community makes a significant difference When some of us are alone it's like really difficult and it puts us in a really We're sticking to a spiral Yeah, we're sticking to some sort of a spiral that some of us might get out of it after like an hour or so but some of us might get out of it after a couple of days For me it's easier to talk face to face Other people on this program are completely the opposite they're better on the internet For me it's very hard for me to text or reach out to other people that are not in front of my face It's not that our suffering is greater than suffering of others we're all going through it if our story touches you specifically I'm glad I personally disagree with a lot of what the government has done and how they're handling the situation I don't think they're really seeing us as people that are struggling and are trying to live we want our normal lives back a lot of our independence has gone backwards in lots of ways and I just want to go back so I can want to go back to how things used to be even though they were difficult like it's never easy but it's just um yeah I just want to go back so I can get back I always think of how I can improve myself how I can get more independent and I feel I just want to get back to where I can work on myself and get stronger and get better Hanna Rivkin in Northern Israel for I24 News each of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where she is our soldiers are fighting on the front lines but the general perception to be fought as well is the truth from Israel to hundreds of millions of people in scores of countries completely done down in their beds the state of emergency and war in Israel bringing Israel's story to the world I24 News channels you have no idea who this man is standing in front of you he's the bravest commander in the IDF he saved my life he fought like a lion with us there are 50 men behind him in a really crazy situation and this man sends only good energy but he's a bit crazy to go back into battle after losing his eye isn't he? what can I say to him? he's completely nuts you paid a high price didn't you? a wounded mother goes back to her children afterwards doesn't she? all my children were here waiting for me in civilian life Yossi is the father of a one and a half year old child lives in Ziron Yakov and is in his fourth year of automotive engineering studies on October 7th, like many others Yossi was abroad as soon as he knew what was happening he immediately went back to Israel a month ago a bullet fragment penetrated his cornea and he lost use of his eye I felt very bad at home I really feel better here even under enemy fire when they're firing missiles at us but I prefer to be here with my soldiers they need me and I need them the trouble with doing a story about real heroes is that they usually don't see it that way how are you? you remember him from the first time I felt like his face was familiar but the truth is he recognized me first he said to me we know each other the only answer I could come up with was that we'd been seeing too much of each other lately yes that's what you told me have you ever had a soldier wounded twice? no never and do you remember the first thing you asked me? no you asked me when you could go back to combat Major Uri is a reservist in a special parachute commando unit and has found himself in this department twice in the course of six days both times after explosive devices were detonated as they went through Gaza and the two attacks 18 of his soldiers were wounded some were hospitalized with him including Elon who he met today for the first time until recently they were kept in an induced coma hi my brother you're looking better you're a real miracle yes that's what they say how do you feel? better I can't believe my eyes yes I've been told it's a miracle they've managed to put me back together again I can even move my hand a little when you wake up and hear that Uri has gone back into combat is it something you understand or for him it's the obvious thing to do and I knew that's what he would do I have an image stuck in my head I'm on the ground completely stunned when I look up I see our friend with a bloody face he was bleeding from his nose eyes and mouth and still he managed to shout it's alright it's going to be okay call me if you want any officer who had been wounded instead of me would have reacted in the same way there's nothing extraordinary about this situation and all the strength and courage is shown by the families who support us the medical teams who take care of us and our comrades who are in there fighting bravely during the two attacks against the terrorists Uri lost three of his officers Sholev Zaltzman Alex Spitz and Shai Trumin losing so many comrades reinforces your sense of responsibility and our obligation to see through what we've started you also look at the world differently and it puts life's values in their rightful place it's something else that's enough you've risked your life enough already I'm no hero I think you are hyper-motivated full of courage but that's enough you've given enough your whole future is ahead of you you've got to let it go now I don't think I can do it it's too difficult for me we meet Sharaf commander of the Nahal Commando Unit in a hotel in central Israel where his parents, residents of Mefalsim on the edge of the Gaza Strip are being temporarily rehoused the famous Sabbath morning of October 7th immediately went out with three other officer friends from the Kibbutz to position themselves on the fence and protect his house he was wounded in the hand by a grenade thrown at him as soon as he was healed he joined his men in Gaza leading them in an operation against terrorists he was wounded when a large explosive was detonated as they passed don't you ever wonder why fate has already struck twice what do you say to yourself? why us? of course it was very devastating when it happened what are the odds of something like that happening I tried to get on with life in a more or less normal way but when I was alone with myself I told myself that after two injuries Sharaf had given enough of himself I don't think I can stay cooped up at home knowing that my team, my men are still fighting in Gaza since the war isn't over when you give your child this kind of education for so many years and the moment of truth arrives how can you tell him right now not to go you've played with your fate once then again these people have all the right qualities everything that makes these people so proud to be Israeli but as we expect them to listen to what we have to say they expect the same from us the only thing that will tell us if everything we're doing was worth it is if we stay united as a people as a nation and we'll come out of this hardship even stronger more united and we'll defeat our enemies there's no doubt about it we have no other choice it's been over 100 days since the war in Gaza began a new department has been opened at the Shiva Hospital in the central city of Ramatgan it is dedicated to rehabilitation wounded IDF soldiers its name is Khosrim Lachaim or coming back to life Shiva is a fun and wild place this particular ward so Khosrim Lachaim or returning to life is a really unique place to come and visit the atmosphere here you wouldn't expect it so it's really more positive optimistic uplifting it is a place of sadness or really hard moments to digest the rehab itself is intensive but it's mixed with also just a lot of fun and encouraging activities some of the guys which are coming here have been through really traumatic events this place like when everyone is like you it's helped you come back to reality I-24 news had the chance to meet two wounded soldiers who told their story the first is 26 year old Itamar Shapira a computer science student after maybe 30 hours of fighting terrorists from everywhere we managed to conquer a few Hamas's camps at that point they told us go aside go to this camp prepare us for the next missions the hatches after a while we're back to sleep and then again at 7.30 ish I woke up, I guess I woke up the last cause when I woke up I heard like a screaming ash smell of the blood heat, I felt that I'm injured all over my body so I started to look for blood I could see that my arm is bleeding also my thigh I looked I didn't see it, my ankle is popping for my shoe I had a killer's turn I didn't see it so one of my guys is dead he had a shrapnel in his heart and neck immediately I knew he died to his left was another injured soldier my other guy is good now he's looking for a full recovery and I'm also good the second wounded soldier we met is 33 year old Aaron Bruce he was in the middle of a business trip to Las Vegas when he heard about the Hamas attack of October 7 the next command point that we were supposed to take was a house that required us passing through a road that was in front of a school an UNRA school now this was a building of interest this was a building where we know that Hamas uses these types of building for weapons depots they use schools to launch attacks from to store weapons to pop out of their tunnels from as we're crossing that path towards the new house we're supposed to take over 20 meters from the house my officer stops his name was only David he stops to get permission to go into the house that's protocol and when he did that I felt like something was off there's someone watching me there's there's a feeling right some kind of intuition that something's going to happen so I said something it was vocal about it and I said let's go to the house let's not stop here so that's what I did I took the person with me I went to the house I got to the entrance and as I'm turning around to see where he is and you know if he had followed me or as I'm turning around I see and I hear a firefighter rupt I hear two bullets he gets hit his comms guy get hit and both of them are now on the ground I rip off my bag I start shooting towards the school so I'm shooting at the school after about two to three minutes I look over at my commander to see to see how they're doing what's their status and I look at my officer and he looks really he looks like he's in bad shape he's lying on his side I think okay he's probably lost a lot of blood he's fainted if I don't go run try to save him right now he's going to die so that's what I did little did I know he was actually already killed so he was already he had already gotten shot in the head and he was lying on his side so I didn't see that and I couldn't make that distinction so I ran 20 meters to try and lift him up I get to him I'm pulling him up I get maybe one to two feet you know on him and as I'm lifting him up I'm static he's got his bag he's got his vest he's very heavy so it's not like I'm moving fast and the sniper unfortunately clips my right leg so I get shot in my right leg it feels like a cannonball now I'm lying on the ground and I thought I had lost my right leg at this point I understood that no one was going to come out to get me because and for good reason they had all just watched me get shot and so this was now a window of either injury or death and I processed all this really fast and I started to crawl and I'm lucky that I did that knowing that I needed to save myself and again it was about 20 meters I'm crawling I get shot in my left leg too I didn't even feel it I didn't even know until two days later and I debris in my right side debris in my lower back but I just kept crawling and I willed myself to safety both soldiers who were injured during their mission in Gaza dismissed the accusations that Israel is conducting genocide in Gaza accusations which were brought to trial in the International Court of Justice in The Hague earlier this month it's so interesting that that's the world's perspective because if you ask the average soldier we'll say the opposite in fact many of the gripes of some of the soldiers in Gaza is that our lives are put more in danger because of the fact that the IDF acts with such restraint which is something we're willing to swallow being that we're one of the most ethical armies in the world one of the most moral bodies in the world and I think a lot of soldiers do take pride in that but at the same time case in point the school was left standing the school was left standing because as westerners we believe that these are places of that are more sanctuaries places of worship educational institutions like schools hospitals but they flip those and they use them as command centers battlefields and they're willing to sacrifice whoever they need to their own children in order to get that done and we don't act the same so the school where they shot at us out of that's a building that we could have easily completely annihilated we want to hurt civilians also we didn't have many civilians in my location I think that's the difference between us and them but what I'm saying what I'm really trying to say is that we are fighting a very unfair war but just this war despite the situation and the hard conditions of some of the patients here this rehabilitation department can shine a small ray of light on the visitor who stands together on its way to recovery Yoni, what's up? good we are entering Margaliot now where do we meet? here, I'm here is it better to do the drive alone? just say he who believes doesn't fear what's wrong with you? anyone entering Margaliot these days instantly realizes they are in a war zone dozens of rockets and missiles in the past months the roads are destroyed and the streets are empty every house here is in clear view of his Bola terrorists how many people are in the Moshev right now? right now the security team is 10 I think farmers are another 10 or 12 we have it logged somewhere 5 foreign workers all the rest are soldiers as you can see, it's empty complete standstill are there points where you can't drive? basically every place in Margaliot is a target in the local operations room the message is received that we have arrived and security team member Tzion Kerin invites us to his home this is my home yeah, I'm speaking now from the bottom of my heart I'll tell you the truth look what a place I've got I've put 60 years of myself into it I've given it everything I've got the house is empty my son is in Gaza I'm here and safely it gets me emotional my wife is in a hotel in Tiberias and I'm here until things cool down let's hope for the best in spite of the warm welcome the current local circumstances prevent Tzion from hosting us the way he's used to the fridge is really empty, huh? yes, the fridge is empty this is what a family fridge in Margaliot looks like it used to be bursting with stuff now it's empty the power is flaky several mortars fell here and we've had lots of outages some 56 hours some 72 the electricity company were afraid to come I can understand that I threw all the food away we hope for better days we will win together worry not, it will be okay let's have a look as soon as I leave my door and look up I see a Hezbollah outpost above us they would watch us it's a very common sight and I hope they don't return if they return, my wife will not no doubt about it she says that she's already saying it she's not keen on coming back a large part of the security team in the north much like in the south are farmers even Tzion what's kept him in Margaliot so long are all his chickens he's an egg farmer it's the only thing keeping me I was born here, this is me you've seen the house, you've seen the place I'm here for that I'm not the only one in a pinch the family egg scoops stretch from here westward all the way to the coast if we don't have that, I believe 10-20% of the residents will not return even if it becomes much safer I love this place I love my community I love my home, I have fun here but if left no choice, I won't be here I'm not threatening 11 of my siblings have left already none of them could be bothered with this the chicken coops have become a symbol in this war when several were hit by Hezbollah anti-tank missiles hundreds of thousands of chickens did not survive those hits not for nothing does Nasrallah aim at the chicken coops he knows that they are a central income source in the conflict zone if we don't have that we have nothing here to do the coops, the fields they don't care about them just because he's trying to scare off the residents the farmers whose livelihood that is where you see those pillars that's the border they stand up over there I've worked here, I've seen them I reported it to the IDF day by day we saw them growing bigger and stronger every day a few feet closer and a few more and so on until it reached the point they paved the road just parallel to our border patrol road it's not too pleasant here anymore, is it? the truth is, no we've been standing here for over 10 minutes I suggest we leave lest we become an easy moving target let's finish the interview in one piece they see us all the time? even now if we aren't hit by an anti-tank missile it's because they choose not to there's no one around so it looks like this Asi, security team member in Qfaryouval can't keep up with the great fruits rotting on the ground in normal times he sends the quality fruits to the whole country 50% of the orchards are inaccessible they're too close to the fence exposed to anti-tank missiles, mortars, rockets what we can do is very little work on the farthest orchards from the border they're even there, you'll be interrupted you can't finish a day's work? no no no, no way his bola fired the farmers are the ones in charge of security in the armoshav all people who guard this place are here because of the agriculture we have been contacted in order to do some maintenance in communities where everyone has left and if you look at those places they are the ones with no agriculture the only ones there are the ones with no agriculture the only ones there are the ones with no agriculture the only ones there are the ones with no agriculture the only ones there are soldiers backing up security teams the amazing thing here is that all the farmers are also the security team members they put themselves in danger and keep the place running all year round all year, always along with estimates that many northerners will not return the farmers are certain if it becomes safe again, they will return the agriculture must prevail how long can you do this how long will it take as long as we need as long as necessary until we solve this issue there's nowhere to go we were born here and I'll stop there we are the human shield that's why we are here that's what the Jewish agriculture is about it's also about border protection we know that since childhood I've known that my parents did it my grandfather did it we won't give up on this place so easily so look that's Louise up there with his hat and glasses look here's Fernando those are the hostages left there is there any significance of the fact that it is the 100th day or is it just another day no, it has meaning it is unimaginable that we have reached such a day it's 100 days of hell it's second after second after second it's thinking what when there were five of them the only ones kidnapped from Kibbutz near Yitzchak Clara with whom everyone was staying her partner Louise her brother and sister Fernando and Gabriela Gabriela's daughter Mia and the dog Bella when we saw that they were trying to enter I don't know how the five of us could act so normal we really embraced in one corner and the door opened in the other direction and from there from the opening they fired they started screaming go, go, go, let's go first, Mia and her mother were brought to the white van later the vehicle returned and collected all the others as well after that they were together the van was full of weapons they jumped up and down screaming, probably drugged suddenly falling out of the van they threw weapons at those coming after them at the vans that followed them we took a very long walk 40 meters deep we saw that there was light at the end of the tunnel we were very happy that we probably wouldn't stay underground and Mia who was holding Bella all the time she went up, they still thought she was holding a doll but as soon as she passed Fernando to exit the tunnel they realized Bella was wagging her tail so Mia caught on and said, my Bella my dog we spent most of the time in the tunnel we laid down most of the time there was no possibility of movement there were mattresses on the floor where old people accept Mia so we looked for a place to sit to change positions and not lay down kind of movement tried to walk a bit instead because there was nowhere else these are conditions that no human being needs I was there for 53 days and it was just an eternity they stocked up with food before that the meat we ate was that canned meat from the army which they had an abundant amount of the IDF's very own cold loof in Hebrew during these days of captivity did you feel a great responsibility for Mia? we felt a very very big responsibility to look after Mia a girl, we always had our eyes on her we tried all the time not to be alone with any of the prisoners in some moments she felt it was hard for her to hold on then she asked for a story and especially was the night writer so we were very fond of her when the terrorists said on the morning of their liberation that only the women were leaving they didn't break down Luis was sure that soon they would meet again there's nothing to worry about he said in a little while we finished with the children and the women and then we start with the men in two or three days we'll see each other over there in two or three days with clothes that's it hug, goodbye see you soon that's how we wanted it Fernando celebrated his 61st birthday last week he's an introvert and a gentle man with golden hands Luis has four children and 10 grandchildren waiting for him without them Clara can't go on since I came out it's literally been 47 days of horrible movies in my head about what could happen to them I feel despair instead of feeling joy or gratitude that yes I am free I am here, the nightmare is over no it was a nightmare there and now the nightmare continues because they actually stay there you really can't stay even for one more moment and the dark night has already shown how hard it is come to this special broadcast here on 9 24 news we continue our rolling covers it's a 120 of the war here in Israel now the one that came and the one that still coming supposedly Hamas is saying an answer to the proposed hostage release deal will come very soon but how soon is soon only after the terror groups leadership get it together reports odds, and that's not the odd part. It's Gaza terror chief Yixinroir, who is said to back temporary truce, while the presumably more pragmatic Politburo head, Ismail Hania, is pushing for a permanency spire, a non-starter for Israel. What did come was an American answer. The U.S. striking 85 terror targets in Iraq and Syria overnight after being poked time, and again, by pro-Iranian militias, rather, since October. Our response starts today, says President Joe Biden, but is this beginning also an end? We begin this broadcast by crossing straight down south to the Israel-Gaza border, I-24 news correspondent Pierre Kloschenler standing by there with the I-24 news team. All day long, Pierre, thank you very much for joining us. We're still awaiting any order from Hamas on this deal. What can we say? What do we know? And perhaps more honestly, what don't we know? I think that we don't know much. I think that most of the information relayed by media is very sketchy and sometimes contradict itself because some of the media reports are talking about a few phases in the release of hostages in exchange for days of posing the fighting as well as release of Palestinian prisoners. We don't know exactly the numbers. We don't know the quality of the prisoners. We don't know about the proportion of the release of each hostage with the release of each Palestinian prisoner. But what we understand also, and that's also, you know, that best confirmation. We heard a few days ago already, Joav Galant, the Israeli Defense Minister, saying that Hamas abroad, the political bureau led by Ismail Aniyah in Doha, Qatar, and Yehissin Noir, the head of the political branch of Hamas in the Gaza Strip are at odds. We heard that already a week ago from Joav Galant. And it's always, I would say, positive news that you can divide in order to rule your adversary. But on the other hand, that could slow down the negotiations. Now what's going on is that Hamas hasn't given yet its formal answer to the proposal to the mediation by Qatar and Egypt. We know that the delegation of Hamas is in Cairo, meeting or has met with Abbas Kamal, the head of the Egyptian intelligence. We know that Hamas is consulting with all the Palestinian factions, be it Islamic Jihad or the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and all the small factions in the Gaza Strip that are fighting against the Israeli troops. But we don't know the conclusion of those consultations. So I think we're very far away from a deal at this moment, but at the same time it could accelerate very quickly. We just don't know. Yes, we simply do not know. What we do know, Pierre, that Hamas is saying, the American strikes in Iraq and in Syria are only fueling the fire here in the Middle East. Right, Hamas in a statement relating to the U.S. strikes over Syria and Iraq is saying that we're witnessing actually the covering up of the genocidal campaign by the Zionist Nazi enemy against our brave Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip. But I think that underneath that message, what's less than subliminal, I would say, is the fact that the strategy of Hamas hasn't worked out. They have hoped that October 7 would ignite a conflict throughout the Middle East with support from Hezbollah, with support from Syrian factions, Iraqi factions that are enlisted by Iran. And that happened in a certain way, but not a full blown enlargement of the war. And as a result, Hamas has been very, very disappointed. And it stands alone against Israel, basically. And as a result, each time Hamas uses its political statements to try and gather solidarity for the Palestinians and trying again to enlist the Arab world against Israel. All right, to be continued, I-24 News correspondent, Pierre Colchandler. Thank you very much for this. And from south, we're heading now north, I-24 News correspondent, Mary McCullough with the I-24 News team on the northern front there. Mary, before we ask you about the latest when it comes to the American offensive overnight, some developments on the northern border itself with Lebanon on the IDF operating there today and also Defense Minister Joav Galanta, sending, you know, escalating the war of wards yet again. Absolutely right, Eli. So today, we once again saw attacks by the IDF, Israeli aircraft striking inside parts of southern Lebanon saying these attacks were directed after a number of launches were identified crossing over the Lebanese border and landing in northern Israeli territory, saying that these launches did not cause any damage and were believed to land in an open area. But still the IDF responding forcefully to these attacks saying they struck two different observation posts belonging to Hezbollah and also another military compound of that group based inside southern Lebanon. As you mentioned that we do have from the past few weeks or so, we continue to hear this messaging coming out from Israeli officials in the security and military infrastructure, especially Defense Minister Joav Galanta who was here on the ground yesterday, addressing also the ceasefire potential ceasefire reports that if there's going to be a ceasefire with Hamas, a temporary ceasefire to allow hostages to return, there will be no pause to the fighting up here on this northern border saying that completely depends on Hezbollah withdrawing its militants from this border area. And that is the only way any kind of these cross-border attacks will stop is once they decide to move their forces away from this border area and cease these attacks on Israeli territory. And until that ends Israel is going to continue to defend itself and its territory. And Mary, let's do a move onto the American strikes in Iraq and Syria. What are we hearing from Washington and what are we hearing from the other side? Also Tehran and disrespect. First importantly, U.S. President Joe Biden saying that these strikes are likely to continue and they will decide to continue these attacks at the time and places of their choosing. So very clearly coming out immediately after these attacks to say this is just the beginning of their response to that deadly attack that killed three American service members last week in Jordan. The U.S. national security spokesman also coming out forcibly and saying that these attacks also though, while they did mostly in the area or those who have been supported by Iran, they are not trying to start a war with Iran. So also trying to condition that message to make it clear. They will attack everybody who's attacking American forces in the region. They will continue to respond to do so. And this is just the beginning of that attack so far. Already though, we're already hearing a number of different countries coming out to condemn these attacks. Most notably Iran. Again, of course, these were the main target of the American strikes and they targeted American Iranian personnel and those supported by Iranian personnel in the region. But we do not have any direct reports yet of any Iranian personnel actually killed in these strikes. Let's take a listen to what Tehran had to say. We naturally condemn any move against the resistance front and we reject and condemn these attacks that will naturally lead to the flames of the resistance. And they must act wisely, which is very unlikely. And we do not see it in the Americans. If they act wisely, they should stop supporting the Zionist regime. I, 24 years, of course, want to marry McDonald's. Yeah. In addition to that, in addition to Tehran, we also have reports coming out from within Iraq, not just from the government, which you can definitely talk about because we did have forced response from the Iraqi government, even though they were warned ahead of time about these strikes, still calling the American action an aggression, but we are also hearing from members of the Iraqi paramilitary units, these umbrella forces who are the main source of these attacks, the main target of these American attacks so we can listen to what they had to say as well. First and foremost, we express our strong condemnation of the U.S. attacks on popular mobilization forces' units and positions. It is fortunate that, despite the severity, aggression, and the large coverage of these strikes, they failed to meet their objectives for several reasons. The targeted headquarters and sites were devoid of fighters and there wasn't any military personnel in at the time of the attack. Joining Iraq and Iran in condemning these attacks was also Syria. Some of these attacks were in Syrian territory last night, but also Hamas in the Palestinian jihad, also coming out to condemn America and condemning what they call their contribution to de-escalation in the region, saying that they are working to destabilize the region as Israel continues its military campaign. Yes, de-escalation seems to be the key word from Washington to Tehran. Thank you very much for this. I have 24 news correspondent Mary McAuliffe from the northern border there and joining us now here in studio, Mr. Amir Oran, government and defense commentator. Thank you very much, Mr. Oran, for joining us. Well, it may sound peculiar to dub a strike on 85 different targets as contained and yet or measured and yet it is simply or firstly due to the fact that in the past week or so it seems that American sources have been working tirelessly to make sure the other side is prepared for those attacks as in orchestrating this choreography with each and every side knowing exactly what to do in order, you know, to make this this dense of horror work. You know, the spokespeople for Iran and for the militias in Iraq, the world champions for Khootspa after they attack, in this case, the United States. And there is retaliation. They say, oh, it's aggression. And what about our sovereignty and all of that? So we can discount their verbal attacks. And the United States could not discard or disregard their actual attacks. Now, yes, you are right. The United States, the Biden administration, most particularly because of the various reasons, political and otherwise, did not want Iranians to be hurt, which is why no target was hit in Iran proper. Yeah. Now, but even before we talk about the Iranian soil staying out of danger zone, even these attacks, you know, we're talking a lot about the element of surprise and the context of our conflict here on the northern border with Hezbollah, with the lack of the element of surprise, the scope and scale and potential damage, even psychologically of such a strike is significantly undermined. What has happened over the last several decades is that nations and organizations have perfected the art of doing the minimum rather than the maximum. Right. They are signaling, yes, they have to go through the motions. They cannot leave such a lethal attack as the one in which three American servicemen were killed with no retaliation at all. But they will try to minimize damage. They will have to do something for their domestic audience and for deterrence region wide. Yeah. But they will try not to cause the other side to hit back and then prolong the cycle of violence. If the Iranians and the militias. And by the way, a few days ago, they already announced the Iraqi militias that they are stopping there. So if if this is the state of play now, if there are no attacks on American forces in Iraq and Syria, what we saw last night would probably be the only the last and only strike. Well, you know, again, we saw briefings of American sources at those past days saying that, you know, we do not have any clear intelligence that the Iran green gave the green light for such an attack orchestrated such an attack. And it is such a throwback. We can't he's no longer with us to be asked. But I wonder, you know, I'm thinking about a way back when Reagan administration, Walmart, Kadafi didn't need much much intelligence to act. Well, at this time, Kisinger is not around to ask what he thinks about that. Well, in the Kadafi strike, it was called El Dorado Canyon after Americans were killed in the Label discotheque in Berlin, there was clear intelligence, sighing intelligence here. What and this is similar to October the 7th. The Iranians were surprised. The Iranians not only were not directly involved, yes, they equipped, they manned, they trained, but as for the operation itself, they were not in the know. Can we really say the same about the Houthis? Can we say the same about Hezbollah? I'm not sure. But Amiri did mention, of course, the fatal attack on Tower 22 on the Jordanian border with Iraq and those airstrikes overnight came just hours after the remains of the three American soldiers who were killed in this attack returned home. Jen Sullivan looks at how these fallen troops were honored back in back in the States and how the U.S. is now responding. Under dreary skies in Delaware, the remains of three U.S. soldiers killed earlier this week returned to U.S. Soil Friday. Sergeant William Rivers and two Army specialists who were posthumously promoted to the rank of Sergeant Kennedy Sanders and Breonna Mothin were killed Sunday following a drone strike in Jordan. U.S. officials blaming Iran back militants days before the remains returned home. President Joe Biden calling the grieving families to express his deepest condolences. I wish I didn't have to make this call. Kennedy Sanders mother breaking down on the call. One percent of all these kids are the ones that they're taking at 99% of us. Friday, the three soldiers were honored in what's known as a dignified transfer. Just hours after their remains came home, the U.S. retaliating, striking more than 85 targets linked to Iran back militias in Iraq and Syria. We need to make clear coming after U.S. soldiers is unacceptable. I think this is an important first step. There are fears that any action the U.S. takes could further impact the Israel Hamas War and broad intentions that has sparked in the Middle East. What concerns me the most is how many different ways this region could completely erupt into full scale war. Earlier in the week, President Biden cautiously saying this. I don't think we need a wider war in the Middle East. Friday night, the president now saying the U.S. will continue its response at quote times and places of our choosing. I'm Jen Sullivan reporting. And as we speak in the streets of London, hundreds of thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators are marching through the center of the city. As the mad police is very much in present and speculated to take a far harsher measures approach compared with previous demonstrations, some turning violent and we do want to cross now a life to London. Vahid Behashchi is joining us from there. Human rights activists, thank you very much for joining us. Well, first, what is happening on underground? What does it look like? Thank you very much for having me. It's same as the other Saturdays, you know, we didn't have that for a few Saturdays, but today, of course, you know, we are still we witnessing the same violence from the same people from the same crowd. But let me put it this way. This is the continue. This is not them. I don't call this demonstration. I don't call this peaceful rally. This is the continuous of the plan of I would say Iranian regime and its proxies, the plan that they attacking the commercial ships by who fees in Red Sea. The continuous of the plan of there was that there are seven of the October massacre, the plans of using civilians as a human ship. This is the same plan, but this is their PR war part of this barbaric, I would say plan is they are very sophisticated. And you have to know the nature of Iranian regime to be able to identify and recognize their fingerprints. I can see the fingerprints of Iranian regime everywhere in this demonstrations. As every Saturday, we are witnessing it in the streets of London and other cities in Europe, in Canada, in America. So we have, but we have to be very aware of it because they are trying by this PR war to increase the pressure on Israel in order to bring Israel the only democracy in the Middle East down on its knees. And we should not allow that. Well, how we have to educate ourselves about their plans, how they are working. Look at the, I think two weeks ago, they identified Iranian regime was creating a group on social media for the families of hostages, the Iranian regime created the group to sort and act as the families of hostages. So they are very sophisticated. When it comes to PR war, and we have to be aware of that. This is how I see the situation in London and other cities. But this is the money of Iranian people spending here to organize these huge rallies in London and different cities in Europe. Yeah, and then this is perhaps one of the tragedies of our time that we have nothing to believe in. And yet we cannot believe anything both at the same time. And yet back to what is happening in London, the Met police announcing yesterday ahead of this demonstration today that face coverings would be banned from today in the afternoon until Sunday morning in certain areas of the city. And the measure requires very clearly the removal of any item that police might believe is being worn to conceal one's identity. This is major. But they are ignoring these rules. They are absolutely ignored. If you look at the crowd today, there are many people in which they covered their face steel. So what we are expecting, police arrest them as soon as urgently. But let me bring it back in a very short way. When the only way for us, as I always claim that to queue, if we are looking for the permanent queue, we have to identify the root of the problems. This is what I have said three, four weeks ago in Israel in the Knesset where I gave a speech. I said the root of the problem is Iranian regime. And for that, we have Iranian people on the ground, a great military of 80 million Iranian people on the ground waiting for the moment to hit the head of octopus inside of Iran. So we should not be afraid to attack IRGC sites inside of Iran. Last night attacked by Biden administration, I think it was, I would say, not bad a step, but inside of Iran, only if they have to attack them inside of Iran. That's the only language they understand, force. They are testing our determination, their best determination. So we have to respond strongly and firmly back to them. That's the only way. And we have to prescribe IRGC in the UK. We haven't prescribed them yet. If IRGC is not the terrorist organization, please, I ask all the western leaders to give me the definition of terrorism. I don't know if IRGC is not terrorism, what is terrorism? Well, this is perhaps another tragedy of our times that the notions of who are we, what is the we here is also being challenged. Thank you very much, human rights activist Abahidah Beheshtia, joining us live from London. Always a pleasure speaking to you. Thank you very much. Back here in the studio with Mr. Amir Oran. Mr. Oran, let's do circle back to what we thought would be crucial hours, crucial days. And now it seems to be yet another round of a sense of urgency, the proposed hostage release deal that is reports that Ismail Hania, the leader of Hamas Foreign, is postponing his visit to Cairo in a few days. Way too familiar dynamic here, I must say. And also, perhaps another alert for us to refrain from trying to apply or attribute certain characteristics to this or that leader on the other side. Because until not so long ago, we thought that Ismail Hania was the pragmatic one, so to speak. And according to recent reports, he seems to be the less self when it comes to the inner Hamas debate. This is powerful, of course, because we know from earlier negotiations, for instance, regarding the ceasefire and then the redrawing of lines between Israel and Egypt that, first of all, the negotiations seemed to be prolonged. And then, all of a sudden, Sadat, in that case, Kachot. And his advisors changed positions, flanking each other from the other side. Now, what we see between Hania and Sinouar is a mirror image of the Israeli cabinet. In the Israeli cabinet, too, without saying who's whom, Netanyahu and Eisencourt, for instance, represent different poles in the tug-of-war regarding the deal. The positive sign is that Secretary Blinken is coming to the region tomorrow. He has a sixth time. Fifth. He says fifth. Maybe we are counting the Biden visit to the high lab. The second violin. Right. And he was supposed to come in earlier. He delayed, perhaps because of the strike, too. But also, there was no point in him coming if there was no chance of getting a deal. Maybe because there is no chance he's coming here to let everyone know that there is something going to happen. He wouldn't have bothered just for that. He's coming to try and push the side, the parties, to say yes. And it seems that, in principle, there is already a framework, an agreement. Yes, the details have to be worked out, but they are only details. And if Sinoir in Gaza says yes, Hania and Mashal and the rest outside, a brewery is no longer there because he was assassinated, they will have to take the cues from those who are fighting and suffering inside Gaza. There, Hania and Mashal are abroad. As Gallant says, they fly first class. They stay in five-star hotels. Oh, that's not. Those who are taking the burden upon themselves will probably make the decision. 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News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. In the first few years of Europe, we have had hundreds of such news, but there are also many of them. It is difficult to find a place to prepare for it. From this special broadcast here in I-24 News, we continue our rolling coverage. It's day 120 of the war here in Israel. Now the one that came and the one that's still coming, supposedly Hamas is saying an answer to the proposed hostage release deal will come very soon. But how soon is soon? Only after the terror group's leadership get it together. Reports suggesting Hamas leaders are at odds, and that's not the odd part. It's Gaza terror chief Yixinroir, who is said to back temporary truce on offer while the presumably more pragmatic Politburo head Ismail Hania is pushing for a permanency spire, a non-starter for Israel. What did come was an American answer. The US striking 85 terror targets in Iraq and Syria overnight after being poked time and again by pro-Iranian militias rather, since October. Our response starts today, says President Joe Biden, but is this beginning also an end? We begin this broadcast by crossing straight down south to the Israel-Gaza border, I-24 News correspondent Pierre Kluschenler standing by there with the I-24 News team all day long. Pierre, thank you very much for joining us. Well, we're still waiting. Any word from Hamas on this deal? What can we say? What do we know? And perhaps more honestly, what don't we know? I think that we don't know much. I think that most of the information relayed by media is very sketchy and sometimes contradict itself because some of the media reports are talking about a few phases in the release of hostages in exchange for days of posing the fighting as well as release of Palestinian prisoners. We don't know exactly the numbers. We don't know the quality of the prisoners. We don't know about the proportion of the release of each hostage with the release of each Palestinian prisoner. But what we understand also, and that's also that best confirmation, we heard a few days ago already, you have gone on the Israeli Defense Minister saying that Hamas abroad, the political bureau led by Ismail Aniyah in Doha, Qatar, and Yehissinua, the head of the political branch of Hamas in the Gaza Strip are at odds. We heard that already a week ago from Joav Galant. And it's always, I would say, positive news that you can divide in order to rule your adversary. But on the other hand, that could slow down the negotiations. Now, what's going on is that Hamas hasn't given yet its formal answer to the proposal, to the mediation by Qatar and Egypt. We know that the delegation of Hamas is in Cairo, meeting or has met with Abbas Kamal, the head of the Egyptian intelligence. We know that Hamas is consulting with all the Palestinian factions, be it Islamic Jihad or the popular front for the liberation of Palestine and all the small factions in the Gaza Strip that are fighting against the Israeli troops. But we don't know the conclusion of those consultations. So I think we are very far away from a deal at this moment, but at the same time, it could accelerate very quickly. We just don't know. Yes, we simply do not know. What we do know, Pierre, that Hamas is saying the American strikes in Iraq and in Syria are only fueling the fire here in the Middle East. Right, Hamas in a statement relating to the U.S. strikes over Syria and Iraq is saying that we are witnessing actually the covering up of the genocidal campaign by the Zionist Nazi enemy against our brave Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip. But I think that underneath that message what's less than subliminal, I would say, is the fact that the strategy of Hamas hasn't worked out. They have hoped that October 7th would ignite a conflict throughout the Middle East with support from Hezbollah, with support from Syrian factions, Iraqi factions that are enlisted by Iran. And that happened in a certain way, but not a full blown enlargement of the war. And as a result, Hamas has been very, very disappointed. And it stands alone against Israel basically. And as a result, each time Hamas uses its political statements to try and gather solidarity for the Palestinians and trying again to enlist the Arab world against Israel. All right, to be continued, I-24 News correspondent Pierre-Claude Schendler, thank you very much for this. And from South we're heading now. North I-24 News correspondent Mary McCollough with the I-24 News team on the northern front there. Mary, before we ask you about the latest when it comes to the American offensive overnight, some developments on the northern border itself with Lebanon, the IDF operating there today and also a defense minister, Yav Galanta, sending, you know, escalating the war of wards yet again. Absolutely right, Ellie. So today we once again saw attacks by the IDF is really aircraft striking inside parts of southern Lebanon, saying these attacks were directed after a number of launches were identified crossing over the Lebanese border and landing in northern Israeli territory, saying that these launches did not cause any damage and were believed to land in an open area, but still the IDF responding forcefully to these attacks, saying they struck two different observation posts belonging to Hezbollah and also another military compound of that group based inside southern Lebanon. As you mentioned that we do have from the past few weeks or so, we continue to hear this messaging coming out from Israeli officials in the security and military infrastructure, especially defense minister Yav Galanta who was here on the ground yesterday, addressing also the ceasefire potential ceasefire reports that if there's going to be a ceasefire with Hamas, a temporary ceasefire to allow hostages to return, there will be no pause to the fighting up here on this northern border, saying that completely depends on Hezbollah withdrawing its militants from this border area. That is the only way any kind of these cross-border attacks will stop is once they decide to move their forces away from this border area and cease these attacks on Israeli territory. And until that ends, Israel is gonna continue to defend itself and its territory. And Mary, let's do a move on to the American strikes in Iraq and Syria. What are we hearing from Washington and what are we hearing from the other side? Also Tehran and disrespect. Most importantly, US President Joe Biden saying that these strikes are likely to continue and they will decide to continue these attacks at the time and places of their choosing. So very clearly coming out immediately after these attacks say this is just the beginning of their response to that deadly attack that killed three American service members last week in Jordan. The US national security spokesman also coming out was forcibly in saying that these attacks also though, while they didn't mostly in the area or those who have been supported by Iran, they are not trying to start a war with Iran. So also trying to condition that message to make it clear, they will attack everybody who's attacking American forces in the region. They will continue to respond to do so. And this is just the beginning of that attack so far. Already though, we're already hearing a number of different countries coming out to condemn these attacks, most notably Iran. Again, of course, these were the main target of the American strikes. And they targeted Iranian personnel and those supported by Iranian personnel in the region. But we do not have any direct reports yet of any Iranian personnel actually killed in these strikes. Let's take a listen to what Tehran had to say. We naturally condemn any move against the resistance front and we reject and condemn these attacks that will naturally lead to the flames of the resistance. And they must act wisely, which is very unlikely and we do not see it in the Americans. If they act wisely, they should stop supporting the Zionist regime. We don't see much of it in the media. I have 24 news correspond, Mary McAllister. Yeah. This is in addition to that in addition to Tehran, we also have reports coming out from within Iraq, not just from the government, which you can definitely talk about because we did have forced response from the Iraqi government, even though they were warned ahead of time about these strikes, still calling the American action an aggression. But we are also hearing from members of the Iraqi paramilitary units, these umbrella forces who are the main source of these attacks, the main target of these American attacks. So we can listen to what they had to say as well. First and foremost, we express our strong condemnation of the US attacks on popular mobilization forces, units and positions. It is fortunate that despite the severity, aggression and the large coverage of these strikes, they failed to meet their objectives for several reasons. The targeted headquarters and sites were devoid of fighters and there wasn't any military personnel in at the time of the attack. Joining Iraq and Iran in condemning these attacks was also Syria. Some of these attacks were in Syrian territory last night but also Hamas in the Palestinian jihad also coming out to condemn America and condemning what they call is their contribution to de-escalation in the region, saying that they're working to destabilize the region as Israel continues its military campaign. Yes, de-escalation seems to be the key word from Washington to Tehran. Thank you very much for this. I, the 24 news correspondent, Mary McAuliffe from the Northern border there and joining us now here in studio, Mr. Amir Oran, government and defense commentator. Thank you very much, Mr. Oran for joining us. Well, it may sound peculiar to dub a strike on 85 different targets as contained and yet or measured and yet it is simply or firstly due to the fact that in the past week or so it seems that American sources have been working tirelessly to make sure the other side is prepared for those attacks as in orchestrating this choreography with each and every side knowing exactly what to do in order to make this dense of horror work. You know, the spokespeople for Iran and for the militias in Iraq are the world champions for Chutzpah. After they attack, in this case, the United States and there is retaliation, they say, oh, it's aggression and what about our sovereignty and all of that? So we can discount their verbal attacks and the United States could not discard or disregard their actual attacks. Now, yes, you are right, the United States, the Biden administration most particularly because of the various reasons, political and otherwise, did not want Iranians to be hurt, which is why no target was hit in Iran proper. Yeah. Now. But even before we talk about Iranian soil staying out of danger zone, even these attacks, we're talking a lot about the element of surprise and the context of our conflict here on the northern border with Hezbollah. With the lack of the element of surprise, the scope and scale and potential damage, even psychologically of such a strike, is significantly undermined. What has happened over the last several decades is that nations and organizations have perfected the art of doing the minimum rather than the maximum. Right. They are signaling, yes, they have to go through the motions. They cannot leave such a lethal attack as the one in which three American servicemen were killed with no retaliation at all. But they will try to minimize damage. They will have to do something for their domestic audience and for deterrence region wide. But they will try not to cause the other side to hit back and then prolong the cycle of violence. If the Iranians and the militias, and by the way, a few days ago, they already announced the Iraqi militias that they are stopping. Stopping, yeah. So if this is the state of play now, if there are no attacks on American forces in Iraq and Syria, what we saw last night would probably be the only, the last and only strike? Well, again, we saw briefings of American sources those past days saying that we do not have any clear intelligence that Iran gave the green light for such an attack, orchestrated such an attack and it is such a throwback we can't, he's no longer with us to be asked. But I wonder, I'm thinking about way back when Reagan administration, Walmer Gaddafi, didn't need much intelligence to act. Henry Kissinger is not around to ask what he thinks about this. In the Gaddafi strike, it was called El Dorado Canyon, after Americans were killed in the Label discotheque in Berlin, there was clear intelligence, sighing intelligence here, and this is similar to October the 7th. The Iranians were surprised. The Iranians not only were not directly involved, yes, they equipped, they manned, they trained, but as for the operation itself, they were not in the know. Can we really say the same about the Houthis? Can we say the same about Hezbollah? I'm not sure, but Amir, you did mention, of course, the fatal attack on Tower 22 on the Jordanian border with Iraq and those airstrikes overnight, came just hours after the remains of the three American soldiers who were killed in this attack, returned home, Jen Sullivan looks at how these fallen troops were honored back in the States, and how the US is now responding. Under dreary skies in Delaware, the remains of three US soldiers killed earlier this week returned to US soil Friday. Sergeant William Rivers and two Army specialists who were posthumously promoted to the rank of Sergeant, Kennedy Sanders and Breonna Moffett were killed Sunday following a drone strike in Jordan. US officials blaming Iran-backed militants. These before the remains returned home, President Joe Biden calling the grieving families to express his deepest condolences. I wish I didn't have to make this call. Kennedy Sanders' mother breaking down on the call. 1% of all these kids are the ones that... They take care of 99% of us. Friday, the three soldiers were honored in what's known as a dignified transfer. Just hours after their remains came home, the US retaliating, striking more than 85 targets linked to Iran-backed militias in Iraq and Syria. We need to make clear coming after US soldiers is unacceptable. I think this is an important first step. There are fears that any action the US takes could further impact the Israel Hamas War and broad intentions it has sparked in the Middle East. What concerns me the most is how many different ways this region could completely erupt into full-scale war. Earlier in the week, President Biden cautiously saying this. I don't think we need a wider war in the Middle East. Friday night, the president now saying the US will continue its response at, quote, times and places of our choosing. I'm Jen Sullivan reporting. And as we speak in the streets of London, hundreds of thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators are marching through the center of the city. SDMAT police is very much in present and speculated to take a far harsher measures approach compared with previous demonstrations. Some turning violent and we do want to cross now our lives to London. Vahid Behashchi is joining us from there. Human rights activists, thank you very much for joining us. Well, first, what is happening on underground? What does it look like? Thank you very much for having me. It's same as the other Saturdays. We didn't have that for a few Saturdays, but today, of course, we are still witnessing the same violence from the same people, from the same crowd. But let me put it this way. This is the continue. This is not the, I don't call this demonstration. I don't call this peaceful rally. This is the continuous of the plan of, I would say, Iranian regime and its proxies, the plan that they attacking the commercial ships by Houthis in Red Sea. The continuous of the plan of, there was that, the 7th of October massacre, the plans of using civilians as a human ship. This is the same plan, but this is their PR war part of this barbaric, I would say plan is. They are very sophisticated. And you have to know the nature of Iranian regime to be able to identify and recognize their fingerprints. I can see the fingerprints of Iranian regime everywhere in this demonstrations. As every Saturday, we are witnessing it in the streets of London and other cities in Europe, in Canada, in America. So we have, but we have to be very aware of it because they are trying by this PR war to increase the pressure on Israel in order to bring Israel's only democracy in the Middle East than on its knees. And we should not allow that. But how we have to educate ourselves about their plans, how they are working. Look at the, I think two weeks ago, they identified Iranian regime was creating a group on social media for the families of hostages. The Iranian regime created the group too. So an act as the families of hostages. So they are very sophisticated when it comes to PR war. And we have to be aware of that. This is how I see the situation in London and other cities. But this is the money of Iranian people spending here to organize these huge rallies in London and different cities in Europe. Yeah, and then this is perhaps one of the tragedies of our time that we have nothing to believe in. And yet we cannot believe anything both at the same time. And yet back to what is happening in London, the Met police announcing yesterday, ahead of this demonstration today, that face coverings would be banned from today in the afternoon until Sunday morning in certain areas of the city. And the measure requires very clearly the removal of any item that police might believe is being worn to conceal one's identity. This is major. But they are ignoring these rules. They are absolutely ignored. If you look at the crowd today, there are many people in which they cover their face steel. So what we are expecting, police arrest them as soon as urgently. But let me bring it back in a very shortly. When the only way for us, as I always claim that, to queue, if we are looking for the permanent queue, we have to identify the root of the problems. This is what I have said three, four weeks ago in Israel in the Knesset when I gave a speech. I said the root of the problem is Iranian regime. And for that, we have Iranian people on the ground, the great military of 80 million Iranian people on the ground waiting for the moment to hit the head of octopus inside of Iran. So we should not be afraid to attack IRGC sites inside of Iran. Last night attacked by Biden administration, I think it was, I would say, not bad step, but inside of Iran, only if they have to attack them inside of Iran. That's the only language they understand. Force, they are testing our determination, the best determination. So we have to respond strongly and firmly back to them. That's the only way. And we have to prescribe IRGC in the UK. We haven't prescribed them yet. If IRGC is not the terrorist organization, please, I ask all the western leaders to give me the definition of terrorism. I don't know if IRGC is not terrorism, what is terrorism? Well, this is perhaps another tragedy of our times that the notions of who are we, what is the we here is also being challenged. Thank you very much, human rights activist, Abahidah Beheshtia joining us live from London. Always a pleasure speaking to you. Thank you very much. Back here in the studio with Mr. Amir Oran. Mr. Oran, let's do circle back to what we thought would be crucial hours, crucial days, and now it seems to be yet another round of a sense of urgency, the proposed hostage release deal that is, reports that Ismail Hania, the leader of Hamas Foreign, is postponing his visit to Cairo in a few days. Way too familiar dynamic here, I must say. And also perhaps another alert for us to refrain from trying to apply or attribute certain characteristics to this or that leader on the other side, because until not so long ago, we thought that Ismail Hania was the pragmatic one, so to speak. And according to recent reports, he seems to be the less so when it comes to the inner Hamas debate. This is part of the course, because we know from earlier negotiations, for instance, regarding the ceasefire and then the redrawing of lines between Israel and Egypt that, first of all, the negotiations seemed to be prolonged. And then all of a sudden, Sadat, in that case, Kachot. And his advisors changed positions, flanking each other from the other side. Now, what we see between Hania and Sinwar is a mirror image of the Israeli cabinet. In the Israeli cabinet, too, without saying who's whom, Netanyahu and Eisencote, for instance, represent different polls in the tug-of-war regarding the deal. The positive sign is that Secretary Blinken is coming to the region tomorrow. He has a sixth time. Fifth. He says fifth. Maybe we are counting the Biden visit to the high level. Second violin. Right. And he was supposed to come in earlier. He delayed, perhaps because of the strike, too. But also, there was no point in him coming if there was no chance of getting a deal. He's probably. Maybe because there is no chance he's coming here to let everyone know that there's something going to happen. He wouldn't have bothered just for that. He's coming to try and push the sides. The part is to say yes. And it seems that, in principle, there is already a framework, an agreement. Yes, the details have to be worked out, but they are only details. And if Sinwar in Gaza says yes, Hania and Mashal and the rest outside, Aruri is no longer there because he was assassinated. They will have to take the cues from those who are fighting and suffering inside Gaza. There, Hania and Mashal are abroad. As Gallant says, they fly first class. They stay in five-star hotels. Oh, that's not. Those who are taking the burden upon themselves will probably make the decision. And interestingly enough, more or less at the same time, the French Foreign Minister is also arriving here in the region and disrespect the Paris Summit, and the arrival here. Hopefully, something materialized. Amir, thank you very much for joining us on this broadcast. This is it from us for now, but we'll see you again at the top of the hour. Thank you very much for watching. Israel is in a state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she. As our soldiers are fighting on the front lines, the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. To I-24 News, it's day 120 of the war here in Israel. Hamas says it will give an answer very soon, but how soon is soon? The proposed deal to release Israeli hostages is still up in the air, as reports suggest. Hamas leaders are at odds. And that's not the odd part. It's Gaza Territory Ficha Sinwar, who is said to be backing the temporary true software while the presumably more pragmatic Politburo head, Somal Hania, is pushing for a permanency's fire and on starter for Israel. Hania delaying his Cairo visit in a few days while the US Secretary of State, Anthony Blinken, is expected to arrive here in the region yet again and a bit to bring about a breakthrough, not just in Gaza. The northern front remains on high alert. The IDF striking his ballot targets in southern Lebanon today. But what is no longer pending is an American answer. The US striking 85 terror targets in Iraq and Syria after being poked, time and again, by pro-Iranian militias since October, culminating in the fatal attack on the Tower 22, American base on the Jordanian border with Iraq. Our response starts today, says US President Joe Biden. But is this beginning or also an end? Hamas saying the American retaliation only pours oil on the existing Middle Eastern fire. Here is foreign ministry two condemning the American response and Tehran remains eager to stay both in and out of it all. We naturally condemn any move against the resistance front and we reject and condemn these attacks that will naturally lead to the flames of the resistance. And they must act wisely, which is very unlikely and we do not see it in the Americans. If they act wisely, they should stop supporting the Zionist regime. Still on topic, the Iraqi foreign ministry summoning the American shirk of the fears in Baghdad to deliver a formal memorandum of protest, but here is what the spokesperson of one of the many radiant backed militias in Iraq had to say dismissing the strikes actual impact. First and foremost, we express our strong condemnation of the US attacks on popular mobilization forces, units and positions. It is fortunate that despite the severity, aggression and the large coverage of these strikes, they failed to meet their objectives for several reasons. The targeted headquarters and sites were devoid of fighters and there wasn't any military personnel in at the time of the attack. And as we speak in the streets of London, hundreds of thousands of pro-Palestinian demonstrators marching through the center of the British capital as the Met Police is very much in present, speculated to take a harsher response or approach rather compared with previous demonstrations there. The Met announcing ahead of the protest that face coverings would be prohibited. The measure requires the removal of any item that police believe is being worn to conceal a person's identity, not including religious face coverings. It's the eighth such mass anti-Israeli march since October. And now irony committing murder, suicide, UNRWA nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize. After its workers involvement in the October 7th massacre has been revealed, a Norwegian lawmaker, nominating the controversial United Nations Agency with some 16 countries already cut off their funding to since the bombshell revelations. And yet today, the United Arab Emirates has allocated $5 million in support of the organization, a minor sum, but a symbolic step nonetheless. And yet it is important to stress the humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip continues. All the time you can see now on screen images from earlier today, trucks carrying humanitarian aid were seen driving into the Gaza Strip from the Rafa border crossing in Egypt. This is it from us for now, but we will be back with more news bulletins throughout the evening. Until then, you can always stay updated online at 24news.tv or follow us on social media. All the latest updates can be found there as well. Thank you very much for watching. See you later on in the evening. Ivan says it has launched a rocket into space bearing three satellites, an achievement that indicates progress for the nation's space program, but also advancement of technology useful to Tehran's ballistic missile program. I-24 News, Robert Swift has more. The roar of the Phoenix rocket resonates through our country's sky and infinite space as it carries three satellites into Earth's orbit. Iran is celebrating what appears to be a successful launch of its Sumoor or Phoenix rocket after a number of failed launches in the past. The cargo, the Mada research orbiter, and two micro-satellites, the Cayenne and Hattif-1, Iran says. With these platforms, Tehran intends to test communication and geo-positioning technologies, as well as the nation's ability to deploy satellites. But Western observers are less pleased. Iran's achievement comes during heightened tensions in the Middle East, and just two weeks after Tehran launched strikes against targets in Iraq, Syria, and Pakistan. Rocket technology capable of lifting satellites into orbit is also a key component in the production of long-range weapons systems. Sanctions against Iran related to its ballistic missiles program expired in October. Its enrichment of uranium, a key component in nuclear weapons, has accelerated since the US withdrew from a deal restricting Tehran's nuclear research in 2018. Iran has consistently said its development of rocket and nuclear technologies is for civilian purposes only, a line that few are buying. Nine Pakistani workers were killed yesterday across the border in Iran. This brings back the question of whether Iran and Pakistan can really put their latest tensions behind. I-24 News, Lynn Plachmaier reports. Border wars heating up again. Nine Pakistanis were killed in the eastern border region of Iran, known as the Sistan and Balochistan province, by Iranian gunmen on Saturday. Pakistan's ambassador to Iran confirmed the incident in a post on social media. We are deeply shocked by the horrifying killing of nine Pakistanis in Saravan. The embassy will extend full support to bereaved families. Council Zahdan is already on his way to the incident site and hospital where injured are under treatment. We call upon Iran to extend full cooperation in the matter. Usually, Iran hides behind its proxies, but two weeks ago, Tehran decided to target Pakistan, alongside Iraqi Kurdistan and Syria, out in the open. This did not bode well with Pakistan, which conducted a retaliatory strike on Iranian soil. Both sides suffered casualties. With Pakistan claiming, Iran killed two children in its attack. With Pakistan, the situation is a little bit more delicate because the countries are more at peace and they have a lot of collaborations. They have collaborations in trade. They have military collaborations, academic collaborations, which have not stopped after the mutual attacks. But there was some diplomatic tension around this issue. It should be mentioned that both Pakistan and Iran killed Baloch rebels on each other's soil. Baloch people are around the border, both in Iran and in Pakistan. And they're all separatists. In each country, they're separatists. They want to unite. And they all perform internal terrorism attacks. After the strikes, the ambassadors of both countries were recalled. But ties seem to be already mending with the return to their respective posts the day before the terror attack took place. No group has claimed responsibility yet. But in the wake of this deadly ambush, the Iranian Foreign Minister is set to travel to Pakistan on Monday. Until October 7, women fighters from the K9 Okets unit, a unit which operates with specially trained dogs, were mainly engaged in locating missing persons and weapons in the West Bank since the beginning of the war and after undergoing special training, they have been working alongside their dogs in the heart of the Gaza Strip, proving every day a new why women are an integral part in defending Israel. Good dog. Great. Search. For those who look from the side, it might be difficult to recognize the uniqueness of the team training here in Zakine base. But the expression beneath the face mask shows that this is a unique team of female fighters. For four months now, they have been doing everything possible so that the barking they hear in the training, they will hear in Gaza as well after their dogs managed to locate explosives or even a live fighter. The Megan squad consists of K9 Okets unit fighters who operate continuously on two levels locating missing persons among ruins of buildings and finding weapons in the territories. But after October 7th, they underwent special training together with their dogs for fighting inside Gaza. We train at destruction sites, which is something we would not do before. Before October 7th, we focused on closed spaces. The explosions in Gaza are something they're not used to hearing. So they're trained to work under pressure, under intense noise. How do you train for such a thing? We have machines that simulate explosions. We practice at the ranges where the dogs are trained to be under control with shooting in the background. And how is Toby? Toby is like a machine. He knows the job. I trust him with my eyes closed. We worked hard for it. There were moments when he was not easy with the noise of the explosions. So we're trained mainly on that. Like the female fighters themselves, Toby also needed preparation before entering the battlefield. Inside Gaza, the dogs are equipped with earplugs, and still it is unlike any activity they have done before. How do you feel about fighting inside Gaza? Is it hard? I was actually really looking forward to it. When you fight with a dog, you ask yourself, how things will go? There are so many concerns. You have to take care of his food, his health. That's a lot on your mind. They are teamed up with the fighting forces in the field and assist in finding Hamas weapons and also in locating casualties and the missing. For example, in the disaster last week in which buildings in the center of the Gaza Strip collapsed on fighters. When you get to a place like this and there are lots of forces, noise, explosions, you send a dog and in the end, it's just you and him. There's silence and you listen to him. And as soon as the barking comes, it's an incredible feeling. You're getting crazy. No, that's a hug. Oh, that's a hug. Okay, so you're cute. On October 7th, the fighters found themselves searching for signs that would provide the families of the missing with answers. In one of the activities with luck, he found an object which closed the circle for the family. As soon as I discovered it, it was a feeling of pride and also an understanding of the general situation and its values. Now they are probably on their next mission and while fighting on the battlefield in the Israeli High Court, there are still petitions demanding the IDF allows women on the front line. It was already said in this war, but we should say it again. This war proved how much female fighters are an integral part in the defense of the country. We are ready for anything, for any task, even if it takes time. That's what we're here for. Is there a sense of pride in being a female fighter? Definitely, it's amazing to see how people are more and more aware that a woman fighter, especially with a dog, is something that is necessarily needed in the field. We're in a situation where the forces specifically require the girls of Al-Quds unit and their abilities, because they know the advantages that we bring. Rachel Stelman is the head of the emergency response team at Kibbutz-Kfar-Azhar, close to the border with Gaza. During the Hamas terror onslaught on the 7th of October, she had to manage the response by herself from her safe room, while terrorists were inside her home. Now she takes us through those events more in this report. Hello, I'm from here, Al-Quds unit, in the center of my house with my wife and the dog. We're starting to get excited, and we're sending a picture of the family of the three of us at the same time. A few minutes have passed, and I've heard of her in all Arab countries. And I'm the head of Kibbutz-Kfar-Azhar, an emergency response team, and the thing that happens is that I take my men with me, and they decide what to do, and who to deal with, and who to deal with, and where to send people to the police station. On the 7th of October, it was a horrible incident, because I found myself in the middle of this incident, while all the security forces of our unit, the Arab police, were almost at the beginning. The police officers from the police station took us to the police station. They took all of the Kibbutz-Kfar-Azhar, went to the street, and took their men with them, and the police, they took their men with them, and sent them there, or some of them, some of them from the police, because no one came to take them. And I was there, sitting on the street, or on the phone, trying to communicate with the police. And so time passed, and I received messages from the police, saying, we don't know what happened to him, because I received the message, that if the family sees Idan, or if they saw him, if the family saw him at home, and he saw him, he had to tell a little girl that he was outside, he called the police, he came to the police station, he opened the house, he saw a little girl, he went inside, he went to the police station, and sent all of his men to the station. The story of his men, the men of the police, we hear them screaming. The police came from here, from the house of the children, all of those who passed by. And from the other side, all of those who came, thought that maybe he would help the children, yes. Time passed, and I went to the police station, where are you, where are you, and it went on like this, at some point, my father told me, Tishtemi, there are robbers at home. The entrance of the robbers to the house, or one or two, we don't know. They weren't interested in the school, and from the school, they just went out, and they went to the school, and there the children's school, and the school of all the students, after some time, there were rumors, run, run, run, run, run, run, run. After that, we heard a sound, and I said, it's not a sound, it's not a sound. And then they told me, my father told me, Mom, we hear, it's Hebrew, it's Hebrew, it's our language. And then we opened the door, and it was really strange. I stayed in the school, because it was so dark, like, in the middle of the night, I had nothing to say, because actually, the entrance of the school, from her reasons, that are also true, and things like that, and we found ourselves the three things that make up the story. I think it was part of my story, the connection in all the time, all the time I did, all this story, brought me to a place that I can't think of, that I have feelings, and nothing to say. I think they're starting to get angry. We want to share the story of Roth Haan. She's a Holocaust survivor who had to relive her nightmare on October 7th. Her son was murdered on that dreadful day, but like the Shoah, she survives, and she moves on, and she makes sure that no one forgets. Take a look. I survived the Holocaust, and I also survived the Black Saturday of October 7th. Horrific. They murdered my son. My heart hurts. I know how to bottle up the pain, but this time, the pain doesn't stay in. I can't keep it in. I wake up at night, and see the images. It's terrible. Ruth Aran, a resident of Barry, survived the Holocaust at the same age as her granddaughter that was taken hostage by Hamas. Together with Yahel, six other family members were also taken hostage. Ruth's daughter, Sharon, granddaughter Noam, 12 years old, granddaughter Adi, and their two kids, together with her husband. Her son was murdered, and his wife, Shoshan, was a hostage as well. They knocked on the door. I opened, and I saw them standing there with green headband. They were terrifying. I don't know why, but I wasn't scared. I stood for a moment, and suddenly, someone was calling them, so I turned around and ran. At night, when the soldiers came to take us, I saw across the yards were bodies of babies, kids, bodies all around. I will never forget it. Thank God I'm 88. I don't have much time to live, so I will do my best to remember it. Horrible. Just horrible. Since October 7th, many have used the term holocaust to describe the massacre in the communities surrounding the Gaza Strip. While some disagree, others say October 7th was a second holocaust. Ruth, who remembers clearly what she went through as a child, is unable to come up with another way to describe October 7th. It was a holocaust. A holocaust. Look, if they cut open the belly of a pregnant woman with a knife, isn't that a holocaust? Is it not? If they kill babies, isn't that a holocaust? It's a holocaust. They're savages. She immigrated to Israel with her parents before Israel's declaration of independence. She remembers very clearly the feeling of persecution and the longing to finally feel safe in the Jewish state. I love this country. It gave a sense of safety for millions of Jews that were nomads around the world. But what happened this time is unbelievable. Just unbelievable. I was born in 1935. I went through the holocaust at the same age as my grandson who was sitting with me in the safe room. All my memories are from a child's perspective. On the Black Saturday, Haim Ranan, a resident of Kibbutz Berry, was together with his son, grandson and caregiver in the safe room. His wife, Hannah, was at her brother's house and two of his granddaughters were hiding across the Kibbutz. Staying in contact over the phone, messaging each other, trying to figure out when the terrorists would get into their homes. They shut the safe room door and told the kids to cry quietly, cry quietly. Don't make a noise. Don't go out to use the bathroom. It was like that with two of my granddaughters. The horrors of that day were unimaginable. More than 100 residents of Kibbutz Berry were taken hostage or murdered. For me, this was a second holocaust. I was even thinking about something that maybe not everyone would like to hear. I asked myself in numbers, what is greater? Six million or 107? 107 is more because I felt those 107 in my flesh. Only later in life learned about the six million. In recent days, his older granddaughter decided to leave Israel with her family, now moving to the US. Today I watch the interview they gave to TV again and again. Only so I can hear the part she says, grandfather, you know I love you. It's difficult and sad and of course I know. And I continue crying. Niki and Tova Stern lost their son Oran on October 7. He was a member of the security team at Kibbutz Natipa Asara. They live in a small village in southern Israel and on that day they kept in contact with their kids. About what was going on in the Kibbutz. Overwhelmed, facing the unimaginable. He never told his children or grandchildren about his life during the Holocaust. But he refuses to compare it to October 7th. I'm angry that we reached this point. The Holocaust was every hour, day, week, month, for five years. A promise was made to Holocaust survivors, never again. A promise that we many didn't fully understand. But the message of those who survived for the second time is clear. We will rise again. We have no other choice. Since the beginning of days, empires were rising and falling. All sorts of beliefs disappeared and our lives were lost. And our lives were lost. All sorts of beliefs disappeared. And our small nation, the Jews, with all our faults were still here. It's unbelievable, unbelievable. My generation saw the state of Israel as a miracle. We won't let it be burned down. I'm hopeful even after my son was murdered that the people of Kibbutz, Barry, will come back to Barry and will rebuild their home as beautiful as it used to be. Because it was an astonishing home, this is my hope. What I saw today was unbelievable. The devastation on the homes, the destruction, the scenes still that you could imagine of what happened. It was like something out of a movie and still also the smell, the overpowering. It was an important day for me and to show the viewers of I-24 News, but it was a difficult challenging day. This was the home of Yanniv Ohana to see basically a modern day pogrom and to feel the vulnerability. You know, we live in Israel, we're so dependent on the army and the government and authorities to provide security to see how all of that can be overturned in the course of one day. I think it really makes us understand how fragile our lives are and how how much we're going to have to fight for our existence or very existence in this corner of the world. Welcome to this special broadcast on I-24 News. I'm Khaled Bendevi. This month marks the 38 years since I started as a journalist in Israel and nothing was like the last two months. This has been the most challenging, most emotional, most heartbreaking and in some ways most complex story that I've had to cover during that time and never I felt the kind of responsibility that I had to present this story to the world in the right context with the right facts and to really speak truth to power in this situation. Carlos Burovi. I'm Nicole Mischel and this is a special broadcast of I-24 News in Spanish dedicated to the war Spades of Iron. A year ago Damian Pachter decided to change Terteno and left to Germany today. Today we have him as a guest just as a guest of Invitudo Invitudo de Lujo. Thank you. Lujo is mine. Okay. So let's start from the beginning from where have you come to come to be here with us in our program. Well, I'm from February of 2023 living in Berlin and well I was going to everything more or less normal until October came and things changed for everyone even to be if you are Israeli if you are Jewish and if you are Israeli Jewish and you live outside it all took us what happened here this October. Damian. Yes. A year ago you left as Carlos was saying in the presentation a year of many changes. A lot. We were here before. Yes. Now you are there but you are in Germany. You are here in Tel Aviv but you are in Germany. A year ago you thought that you were going to return in these times of Israel. That's a good question. No. I didn't think I didn't plan to come beyond I wanted to come with Yanita my wife for a visit at some point of the year in May or later but as I said before from October everything changed and I think we all felt touched in some way and well I decided to come for a week as a tourist and observer observer and just try to be a little with this town in this country which is where I grew up and trying to process the changes that happened which are very visible if especially if you take a year of distance then you return after October 7 and the change is seen on both sides maybe in fact a person who is abstract who lived outside and then he returns you see him different from the person who resides in Israel and four months ago this this act of terrible terror on top it is noticeable when you walk on the streets it is noticeable when even if you go to a bar it is noticeable beyond the war also between living and different from the two of Israel try to take a routine as best as possible there is a little denial which is a characteristic of all those who live here because after October 7 you have to give a title immediately what you have seen you have directed an international section what title would you give your first impression different different yes, different well let's see then now a segment a video that summarizes something that happened on October 7 but seen from Gaza on October 7 urban zones of the city of Gaza never entered territory conquered a tank killed soldiers the euphoria was immense entered more and more jeeps raped Israeli women they were taken to the cry of al-Awakbar they killed parents and played terror with their little children the Israeli Defense Forces launched pamphlets in Arabia in Gaza to prevent civilians since the legitimate defense was imminent each place of attack are deposits of war never in houses mixed schools entered the tunnels of terror while many have died thousands displaced fleeing from a war that their own rulers began not by land Iran the fundamental pillar Ismail Janiye in the comfort zone the population of Gaza women where are the Palestinian leaders while humanitarian enter water is gold where is the money donated to the Gaza international community in the tunnels they are an armed and trained Israeli army trained for mediatical psychological war that carries the Jew that la Cruz Roja, una escena impecable, maquiavélica, niños israelíes versus presos terroristas, un intercambio cruel, pero así es el juego de la vida, o que lo digan las naciones desunidas. ¿Cómo se explica todo esto que ha sucedido para la opinión pública alemana también? Well, I think that Germany is not different in a certain sense of what is happening in Europe, be it because of the vast population of Muslims living there. There are also a lot of pro-Palestinian demonstrations, but it's like that they are also in Germany and in other places in Europe. It's like that this time it's different. There are also two different levels in the sense that on the one hand it's what the German government, which is openly, in a very surprising way, pro-Israeli, which is quite the way they did it. Before it was a little lower level and now it's like that even if one goes through the municipalities in some places in Germany, in Berlin, above all, you see the flag of Israel, so at the governmental level it is openly, publicly pro-Israeli, but there is another world that is the street and the street is not pro-Israeli. But are they originally Germans or Germans from other nationalities, Muslims? Maybe many of them are immigrants, but they are Germans. Let's see now then a reaction against Gaza, made by Israel. On October 7, from urban areas of the city of Gaza, Muslims never went to Israel. Fire, destruction, death in the bus station. To dance, to run. The terror of the Muslims was nothing compared to the panic of the terrorists in Israeli territory, sediments of evil. Benjamin Netanyahu, Joe Biden, Anthony Blake, the world power between the sword and the wall. Diplomacy in times of war. The deep sadness of a country that has buried children, parents, friends, carrying the death of its people, but above all, with David's star. Let's see then this reality with respect to another situation, which is the one we live, for example, in France, in Germany. How does that perceive within European society? Well, European society has quite a few internal issues, such as other phenomena that filled the international agenda until October, which was the war in Ukraine, between Russia and Ukraine, and that affected all geopolitical relations in Europe. From October 7, the Russian-Ukrainian war went on to a second level, and there is no place in Europe that was left without any expression of what happened on October 7. The governments were forced to take some role. At the beginning, everyone came here, and then they forgot. Yes, and above all, France is now having a much more active role as a Western mediator. It would be one of the main Western mediators between Qatar and Israel, beyond the fact that the United States, as always, manages the concert, but several proposals are being evaluated, days ago, a meeting of intelligence leaders from Israel, from the American CIA, and they are trying to reach some kind of agreement to free the prisoners, perhaps in exchange for some temporary ceasefire, either weeks or months. But today this meeting took place in France, days ago, and Europe, European politics, is having a rather active role, always with a certain posture, also due to the internal problems they have, due to how they are composed in societies in each country, in France, in Germany. And these roles are so active that they can lead to a fact that, what happened in October, and we are already four months, in the end, the public opinion develops certain immunity, I would say, to the subject, because as it is not its own population, the fact of maintaining the agenda is quite complicated, especially for Israel. But you do not consider that there has been, on the other hand, all those achievements, an increase in what is so much spoken of as anti-Semitism. I mean, Europe has a lot of it, of course. We are talking about what countries in Europe it can be more or less. But how has it been seen? Is the image of Israel the image of the Jews, in the end, and the chaos? It is a complex question in the sense that it was not easy. It is not easy to be in Europe, not in Latin America either, but Latin America has its own... I would leave Latin America for later. Sure. But it is not... It is like things that one studied about the Holocaust in the secondary school, and that there were resources that were put in to develop that consciousness in all the countries, and suddenly something happens as it happened, and I do not even say that one has to be automatically in favor of Israel, but to be so against it is too much, it is too much, and it also bothers the own Jewish populations that come to the countries of Europe. Well, let's go to Damian. For that same reason, we are going to see now a video of all the events in France and Germany. I am sad and angry to see that my country, in France, cautions this massacre that is taking place in Palestine, whether it be in Gaza, in Jerusalem, in Rafa, in Jericho. The people die of hunger, of thirst. They have no water, they kill children every day in white gas, and they close their eyes, and it lasts since 1948. It is shameful. The Palestinian people suffer, the Israeli people suffer. There are only extremists who are happy with this situation. We came here today to show the people of France solidarity with the Palestinian people, and our support for peace. From a peace solution with two states, the Israeli state and the Palestinian state, and we are here because in France demonstrations have been forbidden by Mr. Darmanin, by Mr. Macron's government, and so it is very important to show that in France too, as in all the other countries in the world, there is growing support and solidarity to stop the massacre, to stop and to gain a ceasefire as soon as possible. If I had to choose from all the countries, which was the most radical, the most unsubstantiated, it would be Spain. Now, I don't have a scientific explanation for that, but I can tell you that on social media, when you post in Spanish, 90% of the responses, with a really bad language and openly using terminologies of Nazism, most of them come from Spain, especially a lot of the responses from Barcelona. Now, the role of Sanchez, I still remember when he did a kind of act from the border, giving the moral lessons to Israel. Well, it is really part of this trend that we were talking about during the last minutes of a certain trend in Europe that is openly anti-Semite, anti-Israeli. However, they use words to whiten the situation and I don't know if they realize it or I think they do it on purpose. But you know that I'm going to add something about Spain. I had the opportunity to interview Santiago Abascal, who is the leader of Vox. I know him. A person with a lot of awareness and a lot of support for what the State of Israel is. He was in the MIR-OS team. He was here in the studio of A.I. Tony Four News. He gave his full support to the Israeli society. He said that you can't have double racism. We are talking about another very important part of the Spanish society, which supports him and he is leading. He is also supporting the defense situation in a vulnerable moment that has had a lot of strong Israel. And they have also been victims of the 7th of October in Madrid by Vox in the offices and in the Vox headquarters. So there is also a part of the Spanish society that we could say is not the only one that is completely against the speech of Sánchez. I would like to draw your attention to the right-wing parties. Exactly. They are the ones who manifest more openly in favor of Israel. And the left-wing parties who generally carry the flags of individual freedoms, of cultural freedom, of religion. They are the majority, not only anti-Israelis, but openly, but never. It has to do with the left and right-wing parties. There is an element there that is obvious that the left, for a conscious decision, they don't even try to cover it up. They are openly anti-Israelis and it is part of the combo of the clichés of a left-wing person who is automatically anti-Israelis. Why? Why can't they be left-wing? They are pro-Israelis. Why is there that kind of contradiction? Here in Israel itself, the left or the left center manifests itself against the Israeli government months and months and months until what happened in October. But there is a huge criticism of the left-wing political field against the Israeli government. However, when you take it from the outside, there are no means. Everything is anti-Israelis openly. And it is very rare. The truth is that it is unfortunate. And it is unfortunate. Let's see something that has happened in Spain that is from the river. Everybody will be free. Where is humanity? Where is humanity? We are in 2024 and we are accepting what is happening in Palestine. What is happening with the world? Damian, but there is also something important that we have to see the aspect and everything that is in the reality of the Palestinians in London because they are not supporting the Palestinian people, and in this case, never. Let's see it. What's happening is an atrocity and I think any way that it's tried to paint in another way is terrifying and we shouldn't be standing for it. And I think it's really important that this many people have come out today to show that we're not standing down and a ceasefire needs to happen and we won't rest until that happens. It's a shame because what we're seeing here this March is so many people being really grateful to be part of a collective of other people. We're here trying to liberate everyone. Jewish freedom and Palestinian freedom. We are seeing the amount of Palestinians who are in favor of the possibility that Israel should be renounced. What should we do with all these people? I don't have that answer, but it's a reality that not only what's happening now, but it's going to expand. And that's also going to happen. We're seeing signs of that in the United States. Places that previously were, at least in public opinion, were much more in favor of Israel. But there's also a problem that I consider to be a problem that we didn't touch, which is the tube through which the information comes. It's the role of the media in this conflict. Exactly. And being a journalist a long time ago, you too, Carlos, it's like a lot of masks came out in the middle of October. And one doesn't even ask for an effort, but it's all so dirty. The media in the world openly take information from never before, and publish it as an objective fact, for example, the figures. Or the Ministry of Health of Gaza. Or the humanitarian aid that comes to Gaza. And who comes? Who governs? Most of them. It's like journalism has become more vulgar, vague. There's not even a minimum attempt to check information beyond receiving the news agencies' cables. And repeat it. That also the news agencies have a role. They also have a role. And one wonders why so much effort and in the end, the objective... Okay, one understands that the objective is a purpose in itself. It's true that there is no objective. There is. I can... But in the same way, when the media say the Ministry of Health of Gaza publishes X, as if it's an objective fact, it's not like that. But I think it's okay to be pro-Palestinian or pro-Israeli. I mean, one thing is to be pro-society. But in a case like this, one of the most popular journalists in the world has committed it to a terrorist group that is also completely vulnerable to their own society. So, in these moments, to support Palestine, and the journalists in the world, in Europe, in the whole world, is not to support the Palestine that should be developed, but to support a terrorist group that wanted this reaction from the international community. And that's the reality that we are trying to handle in the media. This part, obviously. Yes. The journalism... is a trend that has been going on for quite a while now. And it was seen, especially in Latin America, where I first saw it, is that the personal agenda, the political agenda, before the profession, and it's like there's a conclusion with which they go to the studio or to redact their article, and I go back to the topic that there's no real effort to try to reach the truth, or at least if what they're telling me is true, to use the doubt as the tool through which to test the facts. I would say that we see now a small version of something that happened in Chile, and then we see if it reaches the time to see what happened in Argentina. Let's see it. The name of the Palestinian is already political. And the flag. It's a strong symbol that they speak of without wanting that the Palestinians are a political club at the planetary level. I'm proud of this shirt. And I'm happy that it's in Chile and Palestine and it's not in another country. Well, I also saw this man who was already saying that the symbols had his shirt with all the Palestinian signs. He's very good. But this man and all these gentlemen in Latin America do you know the shirt they're wearing? Do you know what it means at this moment? Do you know what it means to support Palestine? What is Palestine? And also what they're supporting behind all of that? Do you know who is behind all of this reality? Never. I think they know it. I think that, especially in Chile there is a large population of Palestinian origin. Sure. But one can be a pro-Palestinian like even there are Israelis who are... Please. Exactly. But that's not the point. I'm a pro-Palestinian. A pro-Palestinian who comes forward and develops how Israel develops. The point is to use the narrative of the will to be a Palestinian state and another thing different is from the river to the sea. That is completely different. And I think that the current conflict, the war in Gaza, has put a latent feeling that is the same as what we talked about about what we studied in the secondary of what happens when before it was the Jews and now it is the Israelis like the origin of all evil. Now the answer to the invasion of Hamas to the south of Israel, the way they justify it... Ah! But this actually did not start on the 7th of October. It started in 1948. And it is like a term that is external. From here on forward. They use it for... There was a ceasefire until the 7th of October. We have one minute left for Argentina to catch. Short. What do you mean? Well, for the first time in decades there is a person who is openly Israeli. I am talking about President Javier Millay who even took it forward one step further. In the middle of presidential campaign an Israeli flag was taken and the flag began. In the middle of presidential campaign. That is, the votes that you have left. Thank you very much. But it did not matter. With that, with that vision and that we will have perhaps the visit of Millay here. The only thing that remains is to thank you because today we have had it as a total guest. I am Charles. Thank you, Daniel. Thank you for being with us. And we just have to ask you to be the ones who are with us who follow us everywhere. Next week we will see you. Thank you. We will move forward with everything we are seeing. Until next time. I-24 News Channels. Garen is one of the 21 soldiers who sadly was killed last week in that horrible explosion in Gaza. He was an infantry soldier. He was Filipino-Israeli. He was raised here in Tel Aviv by a single mother. His story has touched so many here in Israel because of a saga of sacrifice. Take a look. He had ambitions. He had honey. I will take care of us. I will progress. I will develop. I will succeed. Build a house here in the country he protected. We didn't get to any of it. Not a thing of everything we wanted and planned. Everyone's heart was broken last week after saying farewell to every soldier. But something in Cedric's smiling face, his slanted eyes, the foreign name, testified that in this farewell there is a story of a slightly different sacrifice. A story about identity, about love for the homeland, about choice. His funeral held last week also testified to an extraordinary partnership of faith. In the pouring rain, his comrades from the Givati Brigade stood with his friends from the Filipino community. Soldiers from the reserves unit with the people from his church in South Tel Aviv. Cedric Garan was born 23 years ago in Israel to parents from the Philippines. When he was two years old, his father was deported and his mother, who worked as a cleaner, fought a daily war of survival. Since he was small, I know that he's a very good boy. It's very hard for him because I'm working in the whole day. We are coming in the night. He will grow up like that. When he was 16 years old, he said, Ima, I'm going to work. Since then, he became independent. He didn't ask me even. At the age of 15, he met his great love. And since then, they have not separated, Daniella and Cedric. Two years ago, they got married. He told me love. By the age of 25, I want children and I want many of them. We both have families, but half our families are not even in Israel. We are quite alone. My dream was to build a house here with children, a messy house. He studied at the Bialik Rogozin School from 1 to 12. Like all his classmates, he experienced the feeling of foreigners common to Southern Tel Aviv. We suffered racism because our color is a little different. But we always said that we are no different from anyone. We are also Israelis, natives of the land. The language we speak is only Hebrew. And we would strengthen each other going through this racism. We just say, don't take it too hard. It's nonsense. This is my lovely teacher, Omri, who came from Ashkelon. Omri is Cedric's homeroom teacher. Surely, I hope to see you under different circumstances. I will speak in military terms because that's where I have been for four months now. Cedric's main teacher. It was a bit like a commander and his pair. If I needed someone to volunteer, if I needed someone to assume some kind of responsibility, he would accept it with love and smile. During 12th grade, he started to get in trouble. Maybe out of a desire to be with the cool guys with the motorcycles. He was lured by people he shouldn't have been with. To situations he shouldn't have been in. When the whole question of enlisting came up, I thought and he knew that it could save him. Even your half, your Filipino and your Israeli, he said yes, because I love this country. He didn't give up. He stayed there. He stayed there. He slept there until one of the commanders passed by and saw that he really wanted to be a fighter. And he gave it to him and listed him to the Givati Brigade. How proud he was of the purple beret. He went on to the squad commander course and then the senior sergeant's course. Often, when they would return home, his soldiers would gather around my car. Daniela, what a man you have. He was showered with compliments. They made him blush next to me. How they loved him. How they loved him and how he loved them. But the peak came towards the end of his service. Until the last moment, Sidrick did not believe that he would be the one to receive an outstanding soldier commendation from the Southern Command General. I think Ima is not, I'm not the one to select it because I'm a Filipino. He called him but he's the one to select. And he said, Ima, look, how are you proud of me? So I'm so happy. Today, I'm joining you for an unusual conversation. Three days ago, our alumnus, Sidrick Garine, was killed in Gaza. Sidrick always said, Angela, I want to be like everyone else. The question of identity occupies the entire school community. These children, born here in Israel who want to feel part to contribute, the absurdity is that in most cases, because of their status, the state won't let them. Who here is going to enlist? I guess. I was born here and I think I will not be able to get there. I will not be able to get there. Sidrick's war didn't end with his discharge from the army either. There was another battle, this outstanding soldier had to go through. The battle for Israeli citizenship. Instead of having it handed to him on a silver platter, he was so disappointed by it. He would tell me, I gave my all. They don't give a damn about me. I'm a refugee in this place. Until finally, they called him one day to come to the Ministry of the Interior. He was delighted, finally. He started working as a security guard in the Prime Minister's office at Naftali Bennett's house and other ministers. Sidrick Garan, may he rest in peace, was part of the Prime Minister's resident security team. Sidrick was a hero of Israel and had a huge soul. On the 7th of October, like many others, he did not hesitate and went south to fight. He said, Ima, I'm going to the war. No, don't go. He said, no, this is my job. I must protect the country. Ima pray that I cannot sleep. I cannot eat all the time I'm thinking of him. The last time he was at home was a few days before he was killed in the building collapse disaster in the center of the Gaza Strip. He had come home to surprise Daniella for her birthday. On Friday at 7 in the morning, he left for that mission. At 6.17 in the morning, he sent me, good morning, my love. I'm going on a mission. I love you. We went on this mission together. I always put both the Israeli flag and the Philippine flag on my uniform and on my vest. And right before that, Sidrick said to me, wow, how come you have a flag? And I don't. I immediately took it off and slapped it on his vest. For people to see what we represent, that everyone is together. I was actually 100 meters from him. We heard an explosion. I looked to the right, saw a collapsed building, and everything was burnt. I couldn't breathe. I just prayed it's not him. They started getting reports, numbers. I asked the officers if anyone can find out. There's no way that they'd mix him up with another Filipino because it was just me and him. And no one knew what to say to me until I got a message. The funeral wasn't held for the following Thursday. They were waiting for his father, Rico, to arrive from the Philippines. 20 years later, the country that had deported him allowed him to now return to bury his son. The Filipino community, we love you. Thank you very much. Even it's raining. You are here. You are here to be with us in our sadness time. Thank you. Thank you very much. All the hardships you went through here tied you and your family by blood to this good country. And it is our duty to ensure everyone recognizes that. Despite the blood bond, even in the midst of great grief, his mother still fears that despite the heavy price she's paid, her status here is still unsure. My son is dead here. I want to stay with him. Deserve to give me a paper here because my son is dead because this war. I will fight for this. I need the next pay. And again, in one picture at the cemetery, the whole story. The canter who prays next to the priest who offers a prayer. The Filipino community, which in a moment of tragic circumstances is no longer invisible, mourns alongside the soldiers who returned from the battle. Everyone cries the same tears for Sidrick. My dear husband, I promise you that I will continue our life. I promise you. I promise that no one will forget you. I promise. And finally, Israeli women in the idea for certainly playing key roles in the current battle against Hamas. But it's not every day that a young American woman would postpone her college studies to join the army here and serve as a lone soldier in a combat unit. Emily Francis has more on a dynamic American Jewish mother-daughter duo from New York who are each fighting on behalf of Israel now in their own ways. This group of women from New York City came to Kibbutz-Barre to witness firsthand the horrors of October 7th. Karey and Natalie Manicharian are a dynamic mother-daughter duo with a strong sense of purpose. I am the co-president of Vito USA, the Women International Zionist Organization. Vito is president in 38 countries around the world. And all the money raised is to help maintain the projects here. I couldn't be more proud to represent Vito, obviously. I think I'm a mini-miray. But I will continue to raise for Vito and support Israel in any way that I can while I'm abroad until I make aliyah. Natalie grew up in the comfort of Manhattan, but her strong sense of Jewish identity is in her DNA. Wearing your Jewish star is not only, I'm a proud Jew. I stand with Israel. And for me, there's not a lot of that going on right now. And I know a lot of my friends who are Jewish who took off their Jewish stars, who took down their menorahs. And to me, that's folding in the face of the enemy. And I am not prepared to do that. At the age of 17, Natalie felt a soul calling to postpone university and come to Israel to serve in the IDF as a lone soldier. This was the first gut feeling I had in my life where I was so certain. I had never been more certain about something amidst so much uncertainty. How did that go down for you when she told you that? Honestly, I had a dream when I was 16 that I came here and I wanted to serve and my father said, no way, you go back to Brazil with me. When my daughter said she wanted to serve, she didn't know she was going to be in combat, but she wanted to serve. I was so proud and I kind of lived vicariously through my daughter, but I also felt a responsibility as a Jewish mom to give her the freedom to be who she wanted to be and never clip my daughter's wings. Not only did Natalie enlist, but she also wanted to be drafted into an intense combat unit, even though mom did have sleepless nights at first. And you're getting your hands dirty in a combat unit. Let me tell you. What was the name of your unit? Um, Khatiba Khiloutz Vatsala. The unit is men and women and it mostly focuses on combat training and also incorporating it into search and rescue training. I was in Egypt for a period, like right on the border, al-Kharif was called. And then we went to the West Bank near Ramallah. They were actually the only men and women combat unit to enter Gaza, like, to enter Gaza in this war. Natalie finished her IDF service only a few months before the October 7th massacre. My basic training was in a base called Zikim, which, unfortunately, was attacked on October 7th. Right on the border of Gaza. Guilts is a good word. Um, it was just I was mourning my whole country and I couldn't do anything about it. Right? I couldn't go to Israel to mourn people that died. Right? Whether it was going to a funeral, I couldn't do that. And then I had to be in New York and seeing these protests. It was the most powerless war in the world. It was the most powerless feeling of all time. Right? Because, right the day after October 7th, as much as we were all mourning, we were all so sad, we were all geared. We wanted to go and fight. We wanted to go. We were, we were ready for it. I was. I, I couldn't leave my apartment. Now she's a 21-year-old college freshman at NYU. Yet, no military training could have prepared her and other Jewish students for the hate crimes and physical violence against Jews that ensued on university campuses. I have an acquaintance who was assaulted physically in the library. I have a friend who is actually a journalist. He's not even Jewish, but he supports our community at NYU. And he got punched in the face. I even, I was there. I saw everything happen and folded them. And the guy was practically just released and, and nothing happened to him. He was going around campus the next day and that was scary. That was a scary moment. When you see someone physically assault someone and they can roam around college campus freely. Mom and daughter could never have imagined feeling more unsafe in New York City than in Israel during a war. Listen, Emily, I am not going to lie. It's not the most friendly place to be right now. But I think as a Zionist organization, women's movement, the horror that happened and the silence that has been louder than noise. Exactly. From the women's organization I think that our role right now has never been more important. In the shadow of the trauma the Israeli people have suffered as a result of October 7th. The next wave of the over 100-year-old women's international Zionist organization is already going into motion. We're talking about every single citizen in this country has been affected. So Vitzel's role will be taken care of and is already taken care of. The families, mothers were left without husband, children were left without parents. We are going to be focused on creating the emotional trauma. And that's our main goal. Emily Francis, I-24 News. A talented Israeli musician who survived the Nova Music Festival Massacre on October 7th has opened up a new workshop for survivors as they handle the trauma and grief through the power of music. Together, I-24 News correspondent Orya Shapira has the story. This relaxing workshop may be misleading. Several members gather to explore what seems to be a combination between a meditation and music retreats using a special musical instrument. But behind this workshop there is also a lot of pain. I saw this incident and completely fell in love. So we joined forces and started like building this project and spread it around the world. But the whole idea behind those type of instruments are therapeutic for meditative and for... You can do whatever you want with them, but that's the type of sensation that you get when you play them. And then when it happened, this whole horrible event, I looked for ways and my partner really pointed me towards this instrument and that just gave me the power back to me. 28-year-old Nevo Shaulyan, the co-director of this workshop, is a musician. On October 7, Nevo was at the Nova Rave in Raim preparing to perform on one of the side stages. We were supposed to start the show at around six, but there was a little bit of a problem with the microphone so we had to take a little bit of time to set it up and then at 6.30, we were supposed to start play when the missile started, the police told us to start to go home because there's a lot of people under an influence of different type of drugs because it's a type of parties. At 7, we started hearing shooting from the far, but we didn't really make a lot of sense out of it. Like, we didn't, like... I didn't even get into the car yet. I saw a file, okay, a little bit shooting. I'm next to 50 policemen. I feel safe. This is something that can happen in most kind of areas. We never imagined it's going to escalate it to that... to that major event. And at 7.30, the massacre started. There was 100 of terrorists started shooting at us. And we ran, we ran for our lives for a long time. It was very, very long. There was a unit of people that are shooting at you. And after they're shooting at you, they're taking the people that are wounded, another wounded unit of people that are trying to kidnap you. So there are coming waves. They shoot, then they kidnap. They shoot, and then they kidnap. One of the closest people to Nevo is Idan Stivi, who came with him to the Nova Rave in order to document his performance. Idan was kidnapped to Gaza and was considered missing for weeks. I know in my full-hearted, he's alive. How? I can't tell you for a fact. But for me, it is a fact. I feel it. Nevo and his business partner, Ortal Peleg, opened a new workshop for the Nova Rave survivors. They bring this instrument called Bajin to the participants. The Bajin is an original development of Peleg. It's important for me to say that the instrument that was chosen to give through the donations that we receive is a very, very simple instrument. So not like this one, which could look a bit more complex and perhaps intimidating. This is very, very simple. Even more simple than this one. And this was designed for people to have something that is just so easy and so accessible that it will just be a part of their lives without any effort. Ortal and Nevo are now trying to raise money so they can expand their pilot. Meanwhile, Nevo continues to struggle with the outcomes of October 7. I think the biggest challenge is to really understand that you're living a new life. Like, you had a certain plan, you had new people that are very close to you. Now you need to learn to live in a new reality if you want or don't want. And that new reality have a lot of hardships or a lot of lessons to learn. I think the hardest thing is just to feel calm in this new reality. Jewish leaders recently gathered in Poland to discuss anti-Semitism ahead of the International Holocaust Remembrance Day and in light of October 7. Here's more in the next report. Major political figures gathered in Krakow, Poland this past week. They included former Israeli President Riven Rivlin who sat next to former French Prime Minister Manuel Valls and former Greek Premier Andreas Papandreou. The European Jewish Association in partnership with Yad Vashem organized the gathering to commemorate the horrors of the Holocaust and make sense of the massacre that took place in southern Israel on October 7. In many senses it's reminiscent of the cruelty and the genocidal intentions of the Shoah but it's not the continuation of the Shoah. Today the Jews are not at the mercy of others. We don't have to beg others to bomb the railways that conduct to Auschwitz. We fight our enemies ourselves. The Jewish people is strong today. And you know I think that anti-Semitism will not ruin this time the Jewish people. It will ruin the societies that harbor anti-Semitism. The conference also an opportunity to take stock of growing anti-Semitism in Europe and to highlight the responsibilities of political decision makers. We can't accept anymore that Europe would finance either terrorist-linked associations or countries. We need to be extremely careful where the money actually goes and today we're not very careful. The promotion of this education of hatred in Palestinian societies by Hamas and by other various schools of hatred which are inadvertently all funded by foreign funds needs to stop. We can't have children whose only ambition is to destroy Israel and kill Jews. The role of social networks in spreading anti-Semitic rhetoric has been widely discussed also with distinguished guest Ilan Mosque. The CEO of the social network X spoke on stage a few hours after visiting the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration and extermination camp. I would say that the fact that he brought his little child with him, this was the most remarkable sign because when I first asked him to come to Auschwitz I told him that I want him to be an example to others. So since one of the biggest issues in the world is the issue of education. I think that for him bringing his son sent very strong message about the importance of educating the new generation. The CEO of X said he was very moved by this visit and admitted that he only became aware of the extent of anti-Semitism with the barbarity of October 7th. But Mosque also said he was deeply attached to freedom of expression, a freedom that must be limited according to Gideon Lev, a Holocaust survivor and social media star. When freedom of speech allows to spread lies and deny denials or facts that everybody knows and sees then it becomes the very opposite, dangerous to democracy and self-destructive. The next day it was the delegation's turn to go to Auschwitz-Birkenau for a ceremony in tribute to those who died in the Holocaust and on October 7th. There they were met by the parents of Anel Shapira, killed at the Nova Festival. I believe that all these leaders, that they're concrete and then their nations will be on the right side of humanity. They should stand. It's not only because of us, it's because of them. When the evil starts, it might start with the Jews, but it never ends with Jews. And so I hope for them that they will overcome what happens in Europe and they will try to prevent it from getting worse. The political figures present that day now form the circle of leaders of the European Jewish Association and all promised to act in the face of anti-Semitism once they return to their own countries. Is in a state of war families completely gunned down in their beds. We have no idea where she is. Our soldiers are fighting on the front lines but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. A possible hostage deal during this broadcast. Let's keep in mind what those hostages are experiencing and what they have experienced. Take for example, a sister's Daphne and Ella Eliakim, Daphne 15, Ella AJ. They spent 51 days in captivity in Gaza after being kidnapped by Hamas terrorists from their father's home in Kibbutz Nachalos. Well, Daphne now has spoken out to Israel's Channel 12 news about what happened to her and her family on October 7th and what she experienced in captivity and the difficulties she's had in rediscovering normalcy and adolescence since the return of her and her sister. Let's take a listen. It's 65 days that they've been here, adapting to light's new reality since their release from captivity in Gaza. 15-year-old Daphne and 8-year-old Ella getting used to a new house in the city to a reality without Daddy Noam, without his partner Dikla and their step-brother Tomer, who were all murdered on that dark Sabbath. I brought my backpack from Nachalos There's blood on it, my father's blood here and on my pencil case. It was Tomer's backpack. Now it's with me. It's pretty, right? Through no choice of their own, they became all our girls, two sisters kidnapped from their beds to Gaza alone, without mom, without dad, forced to leave behind all that ever made them feel safe. Now, they have no choice but to re-learn how to live. What's the hardest part of going back to a routine? That I don't have my father, who used to wake me up for school, so him not being here for that? Tomer and I used to walk to school together every day, hence the backpack. It's like keeping him with me. I can't talk about it. I'll cry. It's hard. Is it okay if we talk about that Sabbath? Yes. It started in the morning with the sirens, a lot of red alerts, and then a half an hour later, I think maybe an hour, they entered the kibbutz. Then my father came into my room with Dikla and Tomer, and put the three of us, myself, Tomer and Ella, under the bed. I thought it would be nice to have a room like this, and I thought it would be nice to have a room like this. They came in the house, and started shooting. Shot the door and hit my dad in the leg. Then they pulled us from under the bed. They were live streaming it. One of the most memorable videos from the 7th of October is a wicked Facebook lie. One of the most memorable videos from the 7th of October is a wicked Facebook lie. One of the most memorable videos from the 7th of October is a wicked Facebook lie. The terrorists filmed in Daphne and Ella's home. The video shows father, Noam, wounded in the leg with a shocked and scared Daphne at his side. Ella is sitting on Dikla's knees, Noam's partner. Her son Tomer is taken outside by the terrorists. Only a few days later will the full video come out, showing them taking Tomer out and trying to knock on neighbors doors to lure them out. Did you understand where they took him? They said they need a Tomer to go open the doors to the houses so that people would come out. They said he'd be okay that they wouldn't harm him as long as he didn't try anything. Then the Hamas terrorists took us to our car and drove off. And then some other terrorists shot at our car, thinking we were civilians trying to escape. They shot and killed Dikla. She died instantly. They took us to Gaza. So many people tried to reach us and harm us, so the terrorists took us up to an apartment until an ambulance came. What were the days like over there? Difficult. All I could think of was how my family was, my friends, what's happening in Israel, if they got to the whole country, if they destroyed Israel, if they had conquered it. Two weeks before their release they were moved to the tunnels there. They met five kidnapped young women who remain in captivity. This is Liri. This is Nama. This is Romi. This is Agam. You were with the four of them together? Yeah, and Emily DiMari as well. It was on the third day of releases that their names showed up on the list around six o'clock in the evening, wearing long braids, Daphna and Ella could suddenly be seen walking towards the Red Cross's White Cheap. Do you remember the moment of your return? Not really. I thought it was... I thought maybe it was a bluff that I was still in Gaza. 51 days they were alone in hell. 51 days in which a brave girl became a mother in an instant and now needs to find her way back to being a girl again. Another day, another testimony. Mayani Tyregiv, a brother and sister who were abducted to Gaza by Hamas and were released in the previous deal, met with a group of UN ambassadors visiting Israel. Mia, who was seriously wounded, told her story. Take a listen. They killed babies. They took us out of our beds. They took me with the clothes that I wore to the party. On the first day, they ripped it out of me. They literally ripped my clothes out of me. I had nothing. They took my clothes, my earrings. They walked out of me. They took my name. They took everything out of me. I came home. I came home. I have panic attacks. I can't go out. I can't go nowhere because everywhere I can look around. Maybe someone come and shoot me again. Maybe someone come and take me again. Captain Rebecca Henrietta Johanna Baruch recently and tragically passed away. But even after her untimely death she will be saving lives. That is because she asked to donate her organs. Rebecca was a lone soldier who made Aliyah or immigrated from the Netherlands to Israel and chose to serve in the IDF. After her first year of service Baruch lived at Kibbutz side in the Gaza border area. She then decided to enlist as a combat soldier in completed officer training. While I now have the great honor of being joined from the Hague by Robert Baruch the father of Captain Rebecca Henrietta Johanna Baruch first and foremost I salute both you and your daughter what an unbelievably amazing young lady. Can you tell us a little bit about your beautiful girl that she did in the IDF? It's a story which over the last few days I had the opportunity to explore and to find out more about her because as most parents know children at a certain age decide not to tell everything about themselves to their parents. I made a parallel and we had a beautiful Shibonite here in the Jewish community and I recalled her Bab Mitzvah and I remembered actually her Bab Mitzvah was this Parashat Yitro in 2011 and I shared the experience that she walked up to the Bima and I thought to myself who is this woman she had made such a tremendous I'm sorry and this is an experience that was paralleled with what I learned over the past over the past few a few weeks Rebecca a lot of people came up to me and said I'm sorry for your loss and in Israel I said I'm sorry for yours because Rebecca when she finished secondary school chose to move to Israel to live as a Jew between Jews as a fighter between fighters as an idealist between idealists we told all our children that when you see that there is something wrong it is an invitation to correct it and this is what she did she said in interviews it is not a logical step for me to make Aliyah I don't agree with Israel's policies I don't speak the language I don't have any relatives but I think this country is going to make the best out of me and this is what she did she had a beautiful year in Amitina in Steyroth people from Steyroth know the famous restaurant which was her her favorite restaurant she told herself in Hebrew on a near native speaking level in a year she enlisted to the army then had the opportunity to choose for a combat role and then choose to be an officer and all this because she knows that whenever you have the opportunity to change something that you don't agree with or to strengthen something you do agree with it's only to take a sorry to take an active role and this is what she did she started in the 717 unit as she said playing cat and mouse with terrorists and smugglers in the Negev desert then she moved to the 414 units surrounding Gaza and she was responsible for all the bases that held the balloons she extended her service there and actually was white I'm not sure if that's the word she said that there was a lot of room for for improvement there she wrote proposals at one point and this was well documented one of the balloons fell down on the wrong side of the border and she did not ask for orders or permission she went in with a few men and retrieved the balloon she wrote a proposal for improvement and we know what happened with the proposals for improvement that were done with the intelligence function around Gaza she let the army in March of 2023 and started preparing her entrance to university every Saturday she demonstrated with as tens or hundreds of thousands of other Israelis for democracy and inclusion in Tel Aviv and then on the 7th of October when the atrocities happened from Gaza at 2 o'clock in the afternoon she applied for service she sent a message tell me where I'm needed and then finally she went she was drafted on the 11th of October she went to a base in the north where she was not needed sorry and then she went back to the south where she went to the bases where she served until March and she saw with her own eyes what happened to her soldiers and commanders that were an officer sorry that she was working with and this affected her of course great deal then she was drafted into the air force where she was connected to the Iron Dome program she was severely hit by the terrible murder on Rose Lubin who she knew from Kibbutz Stad during a break actually at the end of this of this tenure she had a break and in that break she went to South Africa to lead the summer camp of Habonim all our children are proud and active members of Habonim Drawer the progressive scientist youth movement she came back on the 1st of January 2nd of January we brought her back to her base we were going to pick her up on Friday but on Thursday she called us that she didn't feel well and 24 hours later she was fighting for her life which was of course a terrible experience and that is why she had so much more in her she had so much more to offer and it's a great loss it's a great loss for us as parents which we will take with us the rest of our lives it is a great loss for me it is a great loss for for Israel as a whole we are tremendously proud that she is buried on her heart still and two minutes walk from where two of my great uncles are commemorated who fell in the 2nd world war and in at the battle of Latun it's a terrible sad story of a talent that doesn't fulfill the promise of a potential that is not fulfilled and we love her and we miss her and we are supported by literally thousands of people and messages and which is which is amazing and in the end when I look at it from a bigger perspective when we were on our heart still there were two graves to the left of her that were yet to be covered and the next day there were three on the other side and it's every parent's fear when their children are in the army and for us living in the Netherlands not understanding the military not having been in the military ourselves and of course being surrounded by people who have completely different understandings of what's going on in Israel if I say it mildly it's a different situation but I must say we are the support from the Air Force from the army also is tremendous Robert Baruch if there's any consolation in this major loss as you mentioned for you the army the state of Israel is that even after her death she's going to be saving so many lives I want to thank you so much for taking the time to be with me here on our breaking edition and just wish you continued strength and if I could jump through the screen to give you a giant hug know that I would thank you thank you, bye bye now until October 7th women fighters from the K9 Orchettes Unit a unit which operates with mainly engaged in locating missing persons and weapons in the West Bank but since the beginning of the war and after undergoing special training they have been working alongside their dogs in the heart of the Gaza Strip proving every day and new why they are integral part of defending Israel take a look good dog, great search for those who look from the side it's difficult to recognize the uniqueness of the team training here in Zikim base but the expression beneath the face mask shows that this is a unique team of female fighters for four months now they have been doing everything possible so that the barking they hear in the training they will hear in Gaza as well after their dogs managed to locate explosives or even a live fighter the Megan squad consists of K9 Orchettes unit fighters who operate continuously on two levels locating missing persons among ruins of buildings and finding weapons in the territories but after October 7th they underwent special training together with their dogs for fighting inside Gaza we train at destruction sites which is something we would not do before before October 7th there are low spaces the explosions in Gaza are something they are not used to hearing so they are trained to work under pressure under intense noise how do you train for such a thing we have machines that simulate explosions we practice at the ranges where the dogs are trained to be under control with shooting in the background and how is Toby Toby is like a machine he knows the job I trust him with my eyes closed we worked hard for it there were moments when he was not easy with the noise of the explosions so we trained mainly on that like the female fighters themselves Toby also needed preparation before entering the battlefield inside Gaza the dogs are equipped with earplugs and still it is unlike any activity they have done before how do you feel about fighting inside is it hard? I was actually really looking forward to it when you fight with the dog you ask yourself how things will go there are so many concerns you have to take care of his food his health, that's a lot on your mind they are teamed up with the fighting forces in the field and assist in finding Hamas weapons and also in locating casualties ends the missing for example in the disaster last week the Gaza Strip collapsed on fighters when you get to a place like this and there are lots of forces noise, explosions you send a dog and in the end it's just you and him there's silence and you listen to him and as soon as the barking comes it's an incredible feeling you're getting crazy no that's a hug oh that's a hug on October 7th the fighters found themselves searching for signs that would provide the families of the missing with answers in one of the activities with luck he found an object which closed the circle for the family as soon as I discovered it it was a feeling of pride and also an understanding of the general situation and its values now they are probably on their next mission and while fighting on the battlefield in court there are still petitions demanding the IDF allows women on the front line it was already said in this war but we should say it again this war proved how much female fighters are an integral part in the defense of the country we are ready for anything for any task even if it takes time that's what we're here for is there a sense of pride in being a female fighter definitely it's amazing to see how people are more and more aware that a woman fighter especially with a dog is something that is necessarily needed in the field we're in a situation where the forces specifically require the girls of Okit's unit and their abilities because they know the advantages that we bring can the war risk Israel at the Eurovision unfortunately it might our very own Joe Brown explains what are the chances for Israel to actually get kicked out of the contest in 2023 Noah Kirel danced away into a respectable third place at the Eurovision Song Contest however one year later Israel is the number one talk of the contest before it has even picked a song but not for the right reasons following the attacks on the 7th of October Israel became the bookies favourites with Pontus thinking they'd recreate Ukraine's success in 2022 following its invasion but as the death count in Gaza has risen the chance for sympathy votes at Eurovision has evaporated leaving in its wake a cloud of anger at Israel's participation over 100 artists from Finland called for Israel to be banned from the upcoming contest in Sweden saying quote it is not in accordance with our value that a country that commits war crimes and continues a military occupation polish its image in the name of music a similar petition was signed by Swedish artists including by Milena Elman a former Eurovision contestant and mother of Greta Thunberg meanwhile politicians in Iceland and Sweden have pushed for Israel's disqualification whilst the UK's entrance signed a petition calling Israel an apartheid state despite the growing calls the European Broadcasting Union has confirmed Israel's participation saying quote this is a competition for broadcasters not for governments and the Israel Broadcasting Corporation has participated in the competition for 50 years however the EBU has been accused of hypocrisy having banned Russia in 2022 following the Ukrainian invasion but are they correct or should they ban Israel from Eurovision Israel has a long history at Eurovision winning five times and hosting the contest as recently as 2019 with some minor protests including the Icelandic entry unfurling a Palestinian flag Eurovision has always claimed to be apolitical and condemned the Icelandic actions but the apolitical claims were tested in 2022 following the Russian invasion of Ukraine this is not the first time a Russian invasion has caused the Eurovision bosses a headache Russia hosted the competition in 2009 on the back of the invasion of Georgia with the latter's attempted entry to the contest titled We Don't Wanna Put In featuring a not so subtle dig at the Russian president the song was banned by the EBU for its political message fast forward to 2022 initially the EBU wanted to be true to its rules keeping Russia's involvement so as not to take a stance but due to threats of withdrawal from at least nine broadcasters it was decided that Russia would not enter the contest this suggests the only way for Israel to be banned from the contest is if enough countries threaten to withdraw but will they? the answer is probably not despite showing the opposite when banning Russia Eurovision will still attempt to be apolitical and unlike the Russia-Ukraine war European nations are split between their support for and against Israel so far not a single broadcaster across Europe has officially stated that they will boycott Eurovision if Israel is allowed to participate with many saying they will support the EBU in its decision regardless but it will be another question if by May Israel has any friends at all who would be willing to give them the douze pois come to this special broadcast here on I-24 News we continue our ruling coverage it's day 120 of the war here in Israel stalling yet again Hamas Politburo head Ismail Hania postponing his visit to Cairo for further consultations over the proposed deal to release Israeli hostages reports suggest Hamas leaders are at odds and that's not even the odd part it's Gaza terror chief Yixin Noir who is said to be backing the temporary truce offer while the said to be more pragmatic Hania is pushing for permanencies fire a non-starter for Israel News Secretary of State Anthony Blinken is expected to arrive here in the region in a bid to bring about a breakthrough not just in Gaza the northern front remains on high alert as well the IDF striking Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon today and we want to begin this broadcast in the north I-24 News correspondent Mary McAuliffe on the Israel-Lebanon border thank you very much Mary for joining us so what can we say on those on those IDF strikes in southern Lebanon that's right LA so an IDF statement earlier this afternoon and beginning into this evening saying that they had launched a number of different air strikes in several areas inside southern Lebanon primarily in the Ita El-Shab area this is an area that we've seen hit numerous times by the Israeli air forces they continue to see these cross-border attacks and launches coming from within Lebanese territory crossing the border and landing in northern Israel the IDF said they identified three launches such as that that crossed the border today but not specifying specifying that they did not cause any damage or injury saying that they landed in an open area but they also didn't specify exactly if those were rockets or more of these anti-tank missile attacks which we continue to see Hezbollah lobbying across the border primarily at Israeli infrastructure military infrastructure along the border but some of these also of course also hitting civilian areas civilian housing in this area and most of these communities are evacuated however and Mary as mentioned Secretary of State Blinken arriving here this week the fifth time since the war began and also the French Foreign Minister the new one obviously the main focus is on Gaza the spending hostage release deal and yet the Hezbollah affiliated newspaper Alakbar is reporting today that the West is alerting Lebanon the state the fighting on the border could spiral into into a widespread war absolutely and we have seen the warnings and we've also seen these behind the scenes talks between many Western officials throughout the course of these four months that we have seen these attacks here on the northern border who have tried to try and quell tensions here and stop the situation from spiraling into an all out war but it does come these new reports that Hezbollah and all units have now been instructed to be put in a high alert for a potential war and does come as Israeli messaging certainly does seem to be escalating the tensions in the area or certainly suggesting that there's a high instead of state of alert both on the Israeli side but also on the southern Lebanese side we've seen Israeli officials in recent days making these warnings the defense minister you have gallant last week telling troops in the north that they will very soon be going into action while not publicly saying exactly what that action would be again gallants here yesterday telling to troops in this alpine unit on Mount Hormone very far into northern Israel and essentially warning them about what could possibly coming and telling them to be on this state of high alert also saying that if there is going to be any kind of ceasefire in the south that could be the release of some potential hostages there will be no end to the fighting in the north and that all depends on whether Hezbollah decides to withdraw for some of these border areas saying that's the only way that the situation will stop from spiraling out of control and the Israeli side will be a part of the general however today also issuing a response to that saying they're not expecting Israel to stop the fighting here instead putting most of the onus saying that the only reason fighting will stop there is if Israel stops attacking in southern Lebanon important to remember that most of the Israeli airstrikes that have been happening the Israeli response have always been these retaliatory responses to these attacks that are coming from the southern Lebanese side of the border but we do also know that in northern Hezbollah it's been months it's been months now that they have been forced out of this area there's some a hundred thousand people on both sides of the border so in Lebanese communities but in northern Israel who have been evacuated from their homes in the fear within Hezbollah according to this report is that Israel could try and take some kind of pre-emptive action trying to suss out the security threat and to remove this threat on the northern border to allow residents to go there Hezbollah making it very clear it is wary and watching the situation hopefully to see what Israel does next 24 news correspondent Mary McCall if staying on top of all of this on the Israeli northern border thank you very much Mary will of course get back to you later on in the evening and now we want to welcome here in studio major general light and dango former coordinator of government activities in the Palestinian territories thank you very much major general dango for joining us today well let's do begin with the northern front and a development place earlier this week but could be significant in trying to assess the situation in that is to come that is the fact that Iran took out its personnel from Syria due to the ongoing Israeli legend Israeli attacks there does it necessarily signal that Tehran is is you know feeling too exposed or is it just another you know pun in the greater board of chess I think it's a step call it tactic step by Iran in order to just to prevent kind of other figures from the Iranian side that will be targeting by what is according to foreign sources point to Israel strikes so it's something like organized themselves it shows that Israel meanwhile succeed in order to move ahead or to create some a let's say a threat or a way that Iran will calculate its tap in Syria in a different way but they are there and yet on that but as you said in this is it's really interesting because we are using this distinction in all the different arenas the tactical versus the strategic and here too you're saying it's merely tactical it's tactic inside Syria right but it's not moving ahead and it's not changing anything concerning the policy the strategic way Iran is still the architect of what's going around us all this war is Iran is above it what I said that there is a little let call it success by Israel in great deterrence from Iran Major General Dengoth we do want to or rather head to the south I-24 news correspondent Pierre Kloschender with the I-24 news team on the Israel Gaza border Pierre what's the latest on the ground on the battlefield Well there are signs of reasserting by Hamas control of the northern Gaza Strip and this is a worrying sign for Israel because as these Israeli forces have depleted their presence in the northern sector after claiming that they have asserted northern sector were demobilized and therefore there's only the standing army operating at the level of brigades and the fifth brigade which is a reserve brigade that since this week has been demobilized earlier on in the Shatir refugee camp which was already taken over by the Israeli army but then the army came out of those residential areas in this Shatir camp the army discovered a tunnel a deep tunnel with a lift going to a hidden flat of a senior Hamas official it seems they found their rocket launches they found the munitions weapons depots the usual thing that the army is looking for that's after a certain control and at the same time we hear and we're facing the northern sector we hear from time to time explosions here and Hamas also reaffirming its control over civilian affairs in the area which means that Hamas is adopting insurgency tactics with terror isolated terror cells clashing with the Israeli forces trying to surprise them at the same time asserting its civilian control with police officers some in civilian clothes some in uniform patrolling open markets in Jebalia for instance and that's a worrying sign and briefly up here to that point exactly Hamas leadership calling yes or no to a deal with Israel but what's the situation between Hamas and residents of the Gaza Strip very difficult to know because again Hamas is still in control of many parts of the Gaza Strip and the population right now it's fighting basically for its survival and I'm not sure that they have the power to condemn Hamas or to oppose Hamas at this point the army is trying to use psychological warfare spreading leaflets or newspapers one of them called the reality and telling the population look what Hamas has done to you wake up it's a wake up call but it's very difficult to know whether this will have an impact on the population what we see also in Hanyounes where the thrust of the ground offensive is going on in the center of that city there are Hamas gunman hitting civilians trying to approach humanitarian aid trucks we've seen videos of that or shooting in the air or preventing the population from displacing itself from the battle zone to further down south and that also shows that even in the middle of the battleground Hamas still has a presence and an influence on the population even by force Thank you very much for this, we will of course get back to you later on in the evening and perhaps before we broaden our discussion to the greater middle east if we are to see hopefully some sort of a ceasefire due to a deal that will be struck and facilitate the release of Israeli hostages what must be done for the ship operational wise until a halt of the fire First of all I think we have a lack of unclear policy from the government what we call the day after and this is something that is impact now and connected things together it has operational influence it has a very close impact about Hamas or assess their situation even concerning the negotiation about releasing hostages and in this way Hamas is using it and without kind of you have not any kind of clear policy who is controlling in the civil area the things Hamas is enter and it gives Hamas much more opportunities to keep their civil entity as it was like they are not leaving the area and this is something that is signal not in a way that we ask or we plan to the population inside Gaza what does it mean? It means that without clear policy I think we are withdrawing the achievements that we get operational things that we have power and impact on Hamas is coming a little bit foggy in Rafah Hamas is still there because we didn't take Rafah now but on the north pass of Gaza there is using of this situation maybe change the situation that Israel should return with much more forces back to the area not for operational but to control it in a way of the civil activities. If I understand you correctly Major General Dangot you are suggesting that in a similar manner to the fact that operationally it was first some areas in the north then in the center then back in the north etc. the day after could have theoretically already begin in some areas of the truth it should have begun 2-3 weeks before or ago when the the brigades left the area because we don't need so much forces operational we keep on the right system concept the problem is there is a vacuum inside no one to simply put because there is no decision without decision you are withdrawing without decision we are coming back to the fact that Hamas feels that there still can be active in this area in the civil control and this is something that we are damaged to the achievements in this stage we are now and what I mean also everything is connected without separate or connected to the situation now it's a damage even to the negotiation with Hamas about the release because Hamas got the let's say the assessment they are still in the area they don't under pressure from their entities the civil side not the military side and indication for their confidence or at least desire to stay on the ground is the fact that as part of their demand when it comes to the release of Palestinian security the prisoners are also fatigued entities such as Balgouti the plant these are the months who will be in the list I mean this is a different story but if you ask me Ali we are not there at all from Hamas what they are looking for is two things stopping the war and withdrawing by the IDF we are very close they feel the pressure and they need the time to get here free to organize themselves by missing this point it will be a withdrawal from the achievements that we are now and also reduce the chance to release the hostages Major General Dango before we conclude that topic we've been asking this question so many times in recent weeks at this point in time the military pressure is it helping to release the hostages maybe yes maybe despite the the doubts it is let's say I will answer in a different way without the military pressure we have not been now in a situation of this negotiation releasing the hostages this is the way Hamas understands but the situation now that this pressure has to change his face because we have to create it again if we miss this opportunity this bridge now if we are not succeed to cross it to bring them back we have to adopt another concept and renew a different military activity maybe going to Rafak as we don't plan now it's crunch time make it or break it all cliches are applicable alright we now want to turn to the aftermath of the American offensive in Syria and Iraq overnight Moscow is demanding tonight to convene the UN Security Council after the US strike 85 terror targets being timed again by pro-Iranian militias since October culminating in the fatal assault on the American Tower 22 base in Jordan our response starts today as US President Joe Biden but is it the beginning or also an end pro-Iranian militias saying they struck an American base the third attack since the US overnight action in Tehran, Tehran remains eager to stay both in and out of it all we naturally condemn any move against the resistance front and we reject and condemn these attacks that will naturally lead to the flames of the resistance and they must act wisely which is very unlikely and we do not see it in the Americans if they act wisely they should stop supporting the Zionist regime and heading now to Washington DC we're pleased to join by policy director of united against John Brodsky thank you very much Mr. Brodsky for joining us tonight well the American messaging essentially letting the other side urging it I would even dare to say to get into the mode actively nixing the element of surprise not undermining the significance of these attacks overnight and yet doing everything they can to keep it contained Yes Ellie I'm concerned that the United States has really undermined its deterrent posture vis-a-vis the Islamic Republic of Iran at often times the president appears to fear the Islamic Republic more than the Islamic Republic fears the president to the United States and that is a very dangerous situation when that happens we there was a very long lead time before the US strikes they were very counterproductive in my view leaks to the media the contours of the US strikes that allowed IRGC personnel to get safely out of dodge and travel to Iran for protection so this in my view is undermined our position and perhaps to strengthen this chain of thought Iran too really you know feeling its role or dancing it's part of the tango if you will distancing itself from the tower 22 attack reiterating the no confrontation state of mind so it seems again that both sides are keeping it all on the convenient threshold the minimal threshold Well it's interesting the United States is careful not to cross the Islamic Republic's red line of attacking IRGC targets inside Iran but the Islamic Republic has crossed the United States's red lines repeatedly it has let's not forget it has tried to assassinate and kidnap Americans on US soil and not to mention it has killed Americans in Iraq and Syria so we have this asymmetry here between both sides and this is why in my view the United States needs to be much more aggressive and forward leaning in its response to these kinds of attacks but Mr. Bronsky despite Republican criticism for example on the so called weak Biden administration approach Trump himself the leading Republican candidate for the time being did not say anything about the direct attack on Iranian soil either and overall majority of the Americans Democrats Republicans simply do not like the idea of getting into the Middle Eastern quagmire again Well I think that striking at more strategic targets that have value for the Iranian regime makes a war less likely rather than more likely the president's restraint is making war more likely rather than less likely the president's administration is characterized by an extreme risk aversion and operates by an organizing principle visa the Iran that avoiding escalation is its primary goal in the Middle East and that is very counterproductive for US interests in my view so if we're looking at the contained or composed Biden approach and what you suggest might achieve the opposite let's perhaps take a look at what's happening with the Houthis raging for months now undisturbed and even after Western action undeterred to an extent just this afternoon Sencom talking about UAV downings and interceptions and destroying at least four right before launched at post immediate danger where are we heading on that front well I think it's a very similar dynamic here the United States is aiming for and dispensable proxies as opposed to focusing on the real orchestrators behind all of these attacks and that is the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps and unless and until we start striking those assets and the Houthis case we the IRGC spy ship the Beshad which is providing intelligence on a daily basis for the Houthis to enable these attempted attacks on maritime commerce that is safely operating and for some reason US and its allies haven't targeted it so that's a very very puzzling and I think the United States needs to change that and Mr. Bronsky before we will let you go Jordan finding itself at a very inconvenient position here just this afternoon the official Jordanian news agency is denying officially denying any allegations or claims that the Jordanian air force took part in the in the American attacks overnight Jordan is not less alarmed by what is happening on its borders than any than anyone else well I think Jordan has had a lot of very problematic interactions with the Iranian back militias who are engaging in drug trafficking from Syria and so Jordan has similar interest here to the United States and I think it's interesting that according to the reports Jordan did participate in the US operation and there were many commentators and advisors saying the United States' relations with the Arab states would never remain the same after its support for Israel and its war against Hamas after October 7 so I think that we should be really rethinking some of those assessments Mr. Jason Bronsky Director of United Against Nuclear Iran thank you very much sir for your time for your insight we appreciate it thank you back here in studio with the Major General Eitan Dangot Major General Dangot we've been mentioning Jordan in the American context but both Jordan and Egypt those countries Israel peace agreements with I mean taking some challenging positions vis-a-vis Israel since October 7 and yet as always we do need to make separation between the public and the behind the scenes not suggesting that the behind the scenes is much easier and yet when you're looking at the interests perhaps more common than the not it's true but a general remark this is the situation all over the moderate Arab countries even they are much more totalitarian and controlling their civilians some of those countries especially in the Gulf has a lot of looking what's going in the street and you will never in my opinion see any kind of understanding by the streets towards the United States and down of course it's towards Israel so what's in Jordan and Egypt is much more sensitive because what's going as immediately impact in the situation in those country if I may separate Egypt is much more let's say a partner because what's going now with Hamas about the release of the hostages and in Rafah is coming to kind of meeting the Egyptians a strategic security policy inside the country and above it the relations with Israel are so strong that for example in Rafah I have estimation that probably Israel and Egypt will find a solution to prevent the smuggling the tunnels the things that are going in a way that maybe will not bring use of using military activity according to the border according to Philadelphia with Jordan it's much more sensitive because demographic situation in Jordan secondly the borders Jordan with Syria Jordan Iraq Jordan Saudi Arabia bring the kingdom of Jordan to a very let's say in situation they need in order to manipulate and to keep the royalty in a way and if they didn't attack Syria it's pity for them because if they use the Pakistanis mechanism to react immediately for example Pakistan reacted against Iran immediately and you see that Iran withdraw Jordan as to show also it's independent it doesn't as to loud any kind of group ideological group militias to attack inside Jordan land and it was a mistake if Jordan didn't react Major General Eitan Dango thank you so very much for joining us this hour we will be back at the top of the hour with another bulletin thank you very much for watching Israel is in state of war families completely gun down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well news 24 this special broadcast here on news we continue a rolling coverage it's day 120 of the war here in Israel stalling yet again his visit to Cairo for further consultations over the proposed deal to release Israeli hostages reports suggest Hamas leaders are at odds and that's not even the odd part it's Gaza terror chief who is said to be backing the temporary true software while the said to be more pragmatic is pushing for permanencies fire a nonstarter for Israel news secretary of state Anthony Blinken is expected to arrive here in the region in a bid to bring about the future of Israel not just in Gaza the northern front remains on high alert as well the IDF striking his bala targets in southern Lebanon today and now we want to begin this broadcast in the north 24 news correspondent Mary McAuliffe on the Israel Lebanon border thank you very much Mary for joining us so what can we say on those on those IDF strikes in southern Lebanon also an IDF statement earlier this afternoon and beginning this evening saying that they had launched a number of different air strikes in several areas inside southern Lebanon primarily in the area this is an area that we've seen hit numerous times by the Israeli Air Force as they continue to see these cross border attacks and launches coming from within Lebanese territory crossing the border and landing in northern Israel the IDF said they were identifying that they did not cause any damage or injury saying that they landed in an open area but they also didn't specify exactly if those were rockets or more of these anti-tank missile attacks which we continue to see Hezbollah lobbying across the border primarily at Israeli infrastructure military infrastructure along the border but some of these also of course also hitting civilian areas civilian housing in this area most of these communities are arriving here this week the fifth time since the war began and also the french foreign minister the new one obviously the main focus is on Gaza this pending hostage release deal and yet the Hezbollah affiliated newspaper Alakbar is reporting today that the west is alerting Lebanon the state the fighting on the border could spiral into into a widespread war absolutely and we have seen the warnings and we've also seen these behind the scenes talks between many western officials throughout the course of these four months that we have seen these attacks here on the northern border who have tried to try and quell tensions here and stop the situation from spiraling into an all out war but it does come these new reports that Hezbollah and all units have now been instructed to be put on a high alert for a potential war and the tensions in the area are certainly suggesting that there's a heightened state of alert both on the Israeli side but also on the southern Lebanese side we've seen Israeli officials in recent days making these warnings the defense minister you have gollant last week telling troops in the north that they will very soon be going into action while not publicly saying exactly what that action would be again gollants here yesterday speaking to troops in this alpine area that are possibly coming and telling them to be on this state of high alert also saying that if there is going to be any kind of ceasefire in the south that could be the release of some potential hostages there will be no end to the fighting in the north and that all depends on whether Hezbollah decides to withdraw for some of these border areas saying that's the only way that the situation will stop from spiraling out of control the Hezbollah secretary general however is saying that the only reason fighting will stop there is if Israel stops attacking in southern Lebanon important to remember that most of the Israeli air strikes that have been happening the Israeli response have always been these retaliatory responses to these attacks that are coming from the southern Lebanese side of the border but we do also know that in Israel there is a major push to try and make this area safer for some of these northern residents and people on both sides of the border so in Lebanese communities but in northern Israel who have been evacuated from their homes in the fear within Hezbollah according to this report is that Israel could try and take some kind of preemptive action trying to suss out the security threat and to remove this threat on the northern border to allow residents to go there Hezbollah making it very clear it is wary in watching the situation carefully to see what Israel does on the Israeli northern border thank you very much Mary we will of course get back to you later on in the evening and now we want to welcome here in studio Major General Light and Dangot former coordinator of government activities in the Palestinian territories thank you very much Major General Dangot for joining us today well let's do begin with the northern front and a development that albeit took place earlier this week but could be significant in trying to address the situation in that is to come that is the fact that Iran took out its personnel from Syria due to the ongoing Israeli legend Israeli attacks there does it necessarily signal that Tehran is feeling too exposed or is it just another pun in the greater board of chess I think it's a step call it tactic step by Iran in order to just to prevent kind of other figures from the Iranian side that will be targeting by what is according to foreign sources point towards Israel strikes so it's something like organized themselves it shows that Israel meanwhile does not succeed in order to move ahead or to create some let's say a threat or a way that Iran will calculate its step in Syria in a different way but they are there and yet on that but as you said in this is it's really interesting because we are using this distinction in all the different arenas the tactical versus the strategic and here too you're saying it's not moving ahead and it's not changing anything concerning the policy the strategic way Iran is still the architect of what's going around us all this war is Iran is above it what I said that there is a little let's call it success by Israel in deterrence from Iran major general dangos we do want to head back or rather head to the south I-24 news correspondent Pyrracle Schender with the I-24 news team on the Israel Gaza border Pyrr what's the latest on the ground on the battlefield well there are signs of reasserting by Hamas control of the northern Gaza Strip and this is a worrying sign for Israel because as these Israeli forces have depleted their presence in the northern sector after claiming that they have asserted operational and command control over the northern sector of the Gaza Strip the ground offensive started there in October 27 and ended more or less a month ago the Israeli army redeployed out of residential areas of the northern sector of the Gaza Strip of what's left of it and many reserve brigades were demobilized and therefore there's only the standing army operating at the level of brigades and the fifth brigade which is a reserve brigade that since this week has been demobilized earlier around in the Shati refugee camp which was already taken over by the Israeli army but then the army came out of those residential areas in this Shati camp the army discovered a tunnel a deep tunnel with a lift going to a hidden flat of a senior Hamas official it seems they found their rocket launchers they found the munitions weapons depots the usual thing that the army is looking for but that's after asserting control and at the same time we here and we're in the facing the northern sector we hear from time to time and Hamas also reaffirming its control over civilian affairs in the area which means that Hamas is adopting insurgency tactics with terror isolated terror cells clashing with Israeli forces trying to surprise them at the same time asserting its civilian control with police officers some in civilian clothes controlling open markets in Jibalia for instance and that's a worrying sign and briefly up here to that point exactly Hamas leadership malign yes or no to a deal with Israel but what's the situation between Hamas and residents of the Gaza Strip? it's very difficult to know because again Hamas is still in control of many parts of the Gaza Strip and the population right now is fighting basically for its survival and I'm not sure that they have the power to condemn Hamas or to oppose Hamas at this point the army is trying to use psychological warfare spreading leaflets or newspapers one of them called the reality and telling the population look what Hamas has done to you wake up it's a wake up call but it's very difficult to know whether this will have an impact on the population what we see also in Hanunez where the thrust of the ground offensive is going on in the center of that city there are Hamas gunmen hitting civilians trying to approach humanitarian aid trucks we've seen videos of that or shooting in the air or preventing the population from advancing itself from the battle zone to further down south and that also shows that even in the middle of the battleground Hamas still has a presence and an influence on the population even by force Thank you very much for this we will of course get back to you later on in the evening and perhaps before we broaden our discussion to the greater Middle East if we are to see hopefully some sort of ceasefire due to a deal that will be struck and facilitate the release of Israeli hostages what must be done in the Gaza Strip operational wise until a halt of the fire First of all I think we have a lack of unclear policy on the government what we call the day after and this is something that is impact now and connected things together it has operational influence it has a very close impact about Hamas feeling or assess their situation even concerning the negotiation about releasing the hostages and in this way Hamas is using it and without kind of clear policy controlling in the civil the things Hamas is enter and it give Hamas much more opportunities to keep their civil entity as it was like signs that are not leaving the area and this is something that is signal not in a way that we ask or we plan to the population inside Gaza that without clear policy I think we are withdrawing the achievements that we get operational things that we have power and impact on Hamas is coming a little bit foggy not in Rafah it's clear that Hamas is still there because we didn't take Rafah now but on the north pass of Gaza there is using of this situation maybe change the situation that Israel should return because back to the area not for operational but to control it in a way of the civil activity if I understand you correctly Major General Dangot you are suggesting that in the civil is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception of this cell I think there was a this kind of hole and there were so many holes in the walls of the sky because then it collapsed and now we are moving to October as everyone begins because what happened before it looks like a something that was created at the end of the beginning and every time and every time we find all the bodies and we all go to the room of Oran that is actually the and as a result it is something like half an hour and we received a message of the military of the military and it goes and it is always something that happens because you hear the voices of the Arabs you hear all the voices of the Arabs and you say to him I am a soldier I am a soldier of the soldiers and you still don't understand what is happening the next moment she is something called the 11th in the middle of the day I received the message she said Shegara was the name of the soldier Mirat they are fighting here out of town I hear bullet. Mirat Aziki was killed shegara an army in the building. We heard them at the beginning of the house of Ra'ayah, that two sons were fighting, that they were fighting Emily and Hila. And then we heard them here in Matah. They said to the sons, get together, get together, get to know each other, and have fun, and be together. And then we heard them coming home and breaking the big door, we were at the door of the church. And we heard them fighting in the house. And Yossi says, I'm from behind, I'm from behind. I'm holding the door, and you see, there's no room for them to open the door. The door opens like this. And then, with the help of a handkerchief, it opens the door, and says, there's nothing to do. The door opens one by one, and it's really like a scene from a movie. We enter the right corner of the room, like this, and the door opens. The door opens like this. And they were in the room. They're still looking at us. Yossi, I'm from behind. And we say, don't hurt us and ask. Don't hurt us, don't... the door is open, and then we enter another two. And then they start to open, and they open a big door, like this, with a handkerchief, with a knife in the back. And then they start to pull on me, like, on the walls. And I say, don't hurt me, like, don't hurt them. Like, my daughters, we're still looking at them, and that's what they're doing to us, with the knives. We're all in the dark room. No one is angry, no one is talking to us. They're all in the room. And they're looking at us like this, with a handkerchief. They're looking at us like that. They're looking at us like this, with a handkerchief, like this, like this, they're looking at us like this, with a handkerchief, like right now, with a handkerchief, half Egyptian academia, half Palestinian stuff, half Egyptian culture, they're still looking at us like this, with a handkerchief, with a handkerchief, with a handkerchief. And they're looking at us like this, with a handkerchief, We're all here together, and there's a small chichor garden. Both of our guests enter the kitchen door, and the door was open. It's like a door. They enter the kitchen door, and the door opens from this side, and the door opens to enter the kitchen door, and then they enter the kitchen door. And then they get out, and they call the doctor, who's always here, and he tells her, we're going to open the door, and they try to get in this way. This is the last point I've seen. We're staying here, standing here. We're standing here with two people, who just wanted to get out of the kitchen door, and to get out of the kitchen door, we were staying here. And then I told them, OK, let's go. We have to get to the door, so we can get out of here, and then we got out of here. I left the kitchen door, and it's a house that the guests were already in, because all the guests were there all over. We got out of the kitchen door, and we're standing in the kitchen window, and I went to see where the door was. The door's door was open. So we just got out. And then we got out of there at home, with my hands on the head, and then suddenly we realized that there were other people inside, and that's the first thing that everyone's in the house trying to figure out who's in the door, who's not. Everything is in one big order. So we got a message, that he's in the kitchen, and he's a chef, and after a while we realized that he's in the kitchen. Look, I'm in my room on the balcony, and I know what's going on there. A few other people can currently be identified more with the word kibbutz than Dr. Alon Pauker.