 theology of God that's being taught in that particular text then we expand and we go to a biblical theology and we look at how this exegesis develops as we look at it across the canon from Genesis to Malachi and then from Matthew to Revelation and we consider it from a a canon perspective where we walk through the Bible like I gave the example last week justification by faith if you're going to build a theology from the Bible on that you have to use these methods but when you got to biblical theology you would start with Genesis and see what the Bible had to say of it and then watch and learn the progressive revelation of that doctrine throughout the Bible and then after you have that and this is something I left off last week which we're not doing it's historical theology and it's looking at how the church has interpreted that theology throughout history the problems that the church has had to deal with in reference to that theology like justification by faith so after you went through the Bible doing all the exegesis you would go and look at major places in history where there's literature that dealt with that theology like the Reformation and then you would have a better understanding there and then you would build your systematics which is an overview of that doctrine recognizing now that we have combined all this information let us correlate it let us seek to cohere it relate it to other doctrines and make summary statements about it from a biblical perspective and then you develop your practice on the basis of that yes sir Pastor Michael has a question yeah and I don't want to stump you but like our put you in a hard spot this pyramid does it come from a particular class that you have taken or maybe a particular book that you've read or is it is that a common way to lay it out and the reason why I ask is where you have historic theology coming before systematic theology in a sense it almost seems like I don't know in my mind and I don't know if you've thought about this before but you know that systematics in us compiling the teaching of the scripture would come before his historical theology and seeing what the church has taught concerning the particular doctrine so have you have you thought about that where did the pyramid come from has something that you referred to it's where you'll run across it in seminary studies is mostly in systematic classes or classes on systematic theology sometimes people will reference it hermeneutics theology or class on hermeneutics to because it helps the student see the place of hermeneutics in interpreting the Bible and I believe his history comes at that stage because here the theologian himself is doing the interpretation but there he's seeking to see what others have interpreted of that as well so he's getting a corporate interpretation before he tries to systematize those doctrines himself so it helps be careful with your systematics so I think that's why it's arranged that way thank you um okay so last week if you have the handout the bullet point number one was reviewing the biblical theology and I uh attempted to just remind you of some of those main headers of all the lessons that we've been through and you can see the list there those are straight from our lesson titles so every one of those bullet points we have at least one lesson maybe two or three part lessons on and you could go back to remind yourself of those point two we got started on last week and almost finished developing a summary definition of the multiple biblical meanings of God's glory so when we were looking at the biblical theology of God's glory over the last seven lessons and now we're on lesson eight we saw that the glory of God has a multiple meanings it the glory of the Lord shown around them you know so that's some kind of physical manifestation the glory of the Lord is in the tabernacle on the mercy seat the glory of the Lord is in the cloud and then God is called the king of glory Jesus turned water into wine and it was to manifest the glory of God glory of Jesus Christ so there's a lot of different nuances and meanings Jesus said I will come in the glory of my father you know what does that mean and we looked at that we got a lot of variety of meanings and nuances some of them were more full and broad sweeping meaning some of them were more narrow and and now we need to lay them out so to speak and familiarize ourselves looking at the forest of all these meanings and that bullet point two the sub bullet multiple biblical meanings of God's glory I have seven listed there that's not all of them there are other ways to describe other meanings so just consider this as more of a representative list not a comprehensive list and if you look at that so some of the meanings that we saw for the God for God's glory was a designation for God himself in 2nd Peter 1 17 he's called if you look at that real quick when such a voice came to him that's Jesus from the excellent glory that's a designation for God because that glory on the amount of transfiguration is not some in some object or something that's it's God the father speaking to the disciples of his son and here the God the father's called the excellent glory 2nd meaning that we got was out of this representative list as an internal characteristic so God's glory would would reference God's an internal characteristic of God an attribute of God or even a summary of God's attributes we saw that it was a word used to refer to God's presence we saw him John 2 with the water to wine that it's a display of some something of God's nature like his attributes or his perfections or his person they're a manifestation of power we saw that all things are for the glory of God so the whole goal of everything is for his glory so there's a sense where the ultimate goal of the display of God's attributes is one of the meanings we got and then we talk about dying and going to heaven and being in glory that's heaven and the consummated experience of being God's presence as glory and then we also see that when people worship God they're described as glorifying God so it's the response of the creature to the creator from this the redeemed one to the redeemer of worship and obedience I added this and I want to just briefly I want to try to help you make sense of this because it it's not easy and that's why it's building you see reviewing developing a summary definition it's something that's ongoing and then third point understanding so with this summary definition we want to take all these meanings and come up with a summary definition and before doing that it's helpful to look step take a step back and observe and categorize these meanings that we have considering redemptive history considering that considering the doctrine of God and what we can see is that they're if you look at this list a summary definition observing and categorizing various meanings some meanings are describing or are referring to something about God's nature his attributes it's a glory that he possesses or is typed as nature and that would be more in line with the the meanings up above one and two a designation for God himself that's referring to something that God is or possesses possesses is just a helpful way to help you understand he doesn't actually have it as if it weren't his it is of him but he possesses it speaking of his nature God's internal characteristics attribute or summary attributes so we can categorize those as glory that deals with God's nature his being his person the persons as well and then the another way of categorizing is we see the this reference of God manifesting his glory and where we see God giving some form of a presence through a cloud or through an audible voice or speaking and proclaiming his name he's outwardly manifesting his own glory in a palpable way whether to the ear or the sight or the senses and he's manifesting a presence that he has and displaying himself displaying something that he wants to be revealed so meanings three and four above the God's presence and a display of his attributes we could see how those go together it's God displaying his glory and then we see another way in which we can categorize glory is it's ascribed so when in revelation they say glory and honor and blessing to him where they're ascribing back to to God's glory to to God glory and meaning seven that would be the appropriate response and then glory received so if you look at revelation four if you'll turn to revelation no it's a I'm sorry it's five I'd like to go to five verse 12 it might be also there where I had put it and it says worthy is the lamb who was slain to receive power riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing and if you go if you go back to revelation four and look at 11 you are worthy oh lord to receive glory and honor and power so there's this sense too where not only is it ascribed but he's receiving it's just it's the same effect of giving God glory and him receiving glory but it's just looking at it from his perspective he's receiving it and that's also meaning seven and then glory shared is like in the meaning six where in heaven after the believers are either in the intermediate state or they're in the time of consummation where everybody's resurrected and in heaven with God who were the elect when they are with God in heaven they are sharing in his glory not in the sense of his ontological glory his nature like he is alone God and cannot communicate what is purely divine to the creature however in being in union with Christ being born again and glorified there is a moral nature and perfection that we commune with God in through the spirit so there's this glory being shared and that would be meaning a seven or six up above heaven and consummated experience and then glory purpose so we see that the ultimate goal is if you remember Ephesians 1 6 to the praise of his glory so the goal of salvation of God's provenance that God's creation everything that God does is to give bring back glory to him and having looked at them in that way categorize them observing these various meanings it does follow in this categorizing it and considering these things a redemptive history kind of plan or order where it begins with God himself who is glorious and then from himself displaying and then when that display actually leads to the regeneration and salvation of sinners they ascribe back glory to him even sinners who are uncovered to do that at times and then there is a reception we see on God's part and we see a sharing in the consummation of all things and even now there is a sharing in a sense where we commune with God and then we can see that this whole point of all of this is to God's praise his glory so with those categories and taking all those meanings and seeing how sometimes they reference God sometimes they reference something he's doing in creation and then it sometimes it references ascribing glory and that the whole order we have a summary definition and I've added a couple points in there so let me read that it's on the handout the triune God who is glorious displays his inter-trinitarian glory and that's the part I added largely through his creation image bearers providence and redemptive acts God's people respond by glorifying him God receives glory and through uniting his people to Christ shares his glory with him all to his inter-trinitarian glory you know the square brackets italics was my addition because I and going through the synoptic gospels in John one thing that was very clear to me is that we need to maintain a trinitarian doctrine of the glory of God and I just want to emphasize that with that definition so you could word it a different way it doesn't even read necessarily like a definition it reads more like a summary statement but it does seek to bring together all those elements at least the the representative elements maybe not encompassing every nuance that we cover but it's seeking to bring the major elements of those meanings from the Bible and summarize them okay so let's go to point two this morning any questions with that so far the third point understanding how God's glory relates to God himself you know like when we think about other things that the Bible reveals about God like impassibility how does that relate to God himself immutability like what is that saying what God is not and then what might it reveal what God who God is what he is so we're laboring to not just stop at a summary definition but when we hear the word glory what comes to our mind about God that's that's important right and when you hear that what comes to your mind I bet you there's a diversity of meanings among us even with this summary you might have an idea or a grasp of it and still not have a clear way to describe what comes to your mind when you hear the glory of God so we need to understand how God's glory relates to God himself so that we can know what that means when we say it and we read it in the Bible we have an idea of what's being communicated and I wanted to try to show this and I haven't really thought through a great analogy so I'm just gonna use some marks if you have God's glory and then you have this summary definition that summary definition included a lot of aspects remember when we read that it included God's glory being possessed displayed ascribed received shared and purposed that the summary definition attempt to involve itself with all those things however before you get to that it kind of widens what this can be summarized as even boiled down is God's intrinsic glory and God's extrinsic it's kind of like this is a phrase and a concept that is complex and diverse and deep and to further attempt to specify what this means we would next go and describe it as two major aspects when we're speaking of God's glory there's two major categories that we're speaking of God's intrinsic glory and God's extrinsic glory and then from there we get even more specific with it being possessed displayed ascribed shared and the goal or purpose so really all this is in this point and I'll I want to show that to you but I want to I want you to understand why why why we're using this why these words are coming up and why they fall into the outline the way they're falling into the outline it's because in a sense this is a broader way a simpler way of describing that it's more fundamental and this is the specifics of that if we wanted to carry it out further we would go and list out all those multiple meanings it just it's going from general to to more and more specific and it's helpful to have these categories because it will help you think see because I don't that whole summary definition doesn't come to my mind when I read the bible immediately I have to think about it you know and then ask myself what part of this definition am I in but to have these broad categories and to know that that's biblical helps so let's look at that God's intrinsic intrinsic and extrinsic glory fundamental to the summary definition it's it's kind of like the ground of the summary and just so you I put these are just Webster dictionary definitions of the word intrinsic and extrinsic it's in there on your handout it's just so in case that word is unfamiliar to you you can have a sense of why those words are being used what they mean so intrinsic means and granted this is a Webster's dictionary it's not theological dictionary it's not attempting to speak specifically about God but we're using this language so let's understand what the language means intrinsic means belonging to the real nature of a thing essential or inherent and then extrinsic is not really belonging to the real nature of a thing with which it is connected it's not inherent it refers to that which may be connected to something else but is not an essential part of it so you have to think with me the intrinsic glory of God what is that if you if you tried to understand what I'm saying or an author saying when he says the intrinsic glory of God knowing what intrinsic means from this word definition what do you think that that's describing just to get some dialogue here Sarah his intrinsic glory would be who he is as God so his attributes like in Exodus 33 and 44 yeah yeah amen and that's why I have those texts there if you go look at Exodus 34 actually we'll start in 33 because there's a whole dialogue here whole context Exodus 33 18 Moses says in verse 18 please show me your glory and then the Lord says I will make all my goodness pass before you and I will proclaim the name of the Lord I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious so he's showing his glory or he's declaring his glory and then later in 34 we're going to see a manifestation of that and what is this glory referencing of course there's this presence there with a a declaration or a proclamation of God's nature but those proclamations are speaking to God about God so intrinsically God is glory when Moses says show me your glory he's not talking about some light or some cloud or manifestation he's wanting to know the nature of the true and living God Yahweh when he says show me your glory which you possess who you are he's speaking of God's intrinsic glory that glory that is of his essence and then the Lord says I will be gracious to whom I'll be gracious that's a revelation of something about God is that he is sovereign so God's glory includes his sovereignty there and you see how that's intrinsic it's not he's not saying show me your some beautiful display like with my eyes he's wanting and and he but he's not that's not I'm not saying that Moses would not be willing to receive that the but what is Moses's point I want to know who you are show me your glory and those believers in Israel knew that the shekinah glory was not God like it was just a manifestation of God that he chose to manifest in that time even Solomon said the heavens cannot contain you you know so when they and they want to know the glory of God that's what they want to know the intrinsic glory of God that which is belonging to the real nature of who he is but extrinsically it's it says here not really belonging that's just the word definition it's those things that God does in history and in creation really everything that we have I mean even the heavens declare the glory of God so everything that comes into contact with our eyes the whole earth is full of his glory is a display it's extrinsic God is not of his creation he's not of the earth he created the earth and he sustains it according to his laws and he can go against them however he wants but what when we speak of that glory what we're talking about is that which is not essential to his nature he's chosen and he manifests it through his decree and then the carrying out of that decree and providence creation and providence but it's not essential to him it's just out of his own will and good pleasure to manifest something of himself in those glorious things so when we speak of God's extrinsic glory I'm just describing these two terms we're speaking of those things that are not essential to God but yet in and of themselves they're glorious and they teach us about the intrinsic glory of God in something in some way does that make sense as far as describing those two terms any questions on those two terms Sergio I was going to ask if you could repeat the definition for the intrinsic okay it's on your handout and it's intrinsic it doesn't have page numbers but it's under the third bullet third major bullet intrinsic belonging to the real real nature of a thing essential or inherent okay another question would his extrinsic glory include our response oh yes I yes I think of work out your own salvation with fear and trembling for it is him who works in you both to do and to will for his good pleasure you know so like even our response is why do we give why do we ascribe glory to him for our response it's because it came the the cause of that response was him so the fact that we respond and we've been saved by the blood of the lamb and applied by the spirit is a manifestation of God's extrinsic glory and if you think too is is his saving a center essential to his nature and at one sense we see that God is love and it it's makes perfect sense when we understand the the God's nature and his justice and mercy and the cross and they see it but it the the covenants that God makes is not in this essential to his nature there was nothing that God needs if you God needs if you go back to God's essayity he doesn't need creation to exist to for his blessedness for his fullness in any sense of the term relationally or sustenance or anyway so if you think of that all of God's work in redemptive history is in no way need needed by God it's extrinsic manifestation of who he is so again why go back there because if if you go back to the page one you see that that under major bullet major part number two developing a summary definition under that sub bullet summary definition there's that list there who can tell me out of that list which ones of those listed there would be subsumed under God's intrinsic glory which ones are related to God's intrinsic glory no well there's a designation of God himself one and then the second one in an internal characteristic attribute or summary of attributes of God yeah amen and below there it would be that that bullet God possess glory possessed and the others you know we know that all of God's extrinsic glory those things he does that are not essential to his nature but he does out of his good will good pleasure and are grounded in his essential nature yet he does freely without compulsion or need when when he does those things of course we know those things are telling us something about God's essential nature but he in no way is intrinsically necessitated to display his glory in creation the way he does so all those bullets after that glory displayed glory ascribed glory received glory shared and glory purposed are extrinsic and the reason why I asked us to do that and think about that is I'm wanting you to see that there's a relate we're not just these aren't isolated points these there's a relationship here we're really talking about the summary definition but just in two major categories we're talking about the multiple meanings but just in two major categories we're talking about God's glory but in two major categories I'm wanting to focus there but I'm wanting to see how they're connected to these other things and theologians have picked up on this we're not like coming up with this stuff on our own though we are we have warrant to if it's biblical but there are great believers that God has gifted that came before us and I'll share with you something Gershner explains about Jonathan Edwards and he looked at Jonathan Edwards sermon on Psalm 89 6 so if you look at Psalm 89 6 for who in the heavens can be compared to the Lord who among the sons of the mighty can be likened to the Lord so Jonathan Edwards gave a sermon on it and then later years later Gershner writes about Edwards theology of God's glory and we're this is a little bit of that historical part just to let you know that this is something that has been covered and we can compare against and gain some encouragement from others in the sermon on Psalm 89 6 Edwards had the glory of God consisting in God's greatness and goodness so glory for him and this is what I believe is biblical is another word used for the sum total of all divine excellencies and we haven't got there yet but we'll get there and the glory is of God refers to the internal as well as the manifestative glory so the glory of God refers to the internal glory of God and the manifestative glory of God that's intrinsic and extrinsic the latter the manifestative glory of God amounts to a setting forth of the attributes in their reality and fullness and all I'm going there is just to help you see that this is something in systematic theology that theologians are attempting to grasp and there is this two major categories of considering it and my conscience is clear with that because I've see how there are texts that reference God's nature and his name and there are texts that reference God's outworking so when somebody says those are two different categories I see a distinction there and I also see that they're related so I don't have a if they put internal and external that probably wouldn't bother me the point isn't like this magical word it's just understanding these concepts that the glory of God exist in two major categories and then we can we can come to a summary definition and get more and more detailed with it more and more specific and we can go and look at all the multiple meanings to get more and more specific but I don't have a problem saying oh when I look back at all these multiple meanings I do see that I can lump all these and reference to God's essential nature and I can lump all these into what God does Robinson just wanted to make a connection looking at the board on the right side with God's glory intrinsic and extrinsic if we wanted to flesh out intrinsic some of the examples would be what we're studying on Tuesday nights like the fact that God doesn't change he's eternal has no emotions yes thank you so much that's a very good question and that's really what we want to discover because there are some theologians like an Old Testament biblical theology author might see in that limited amount of revelation that God's glory predominantly references his presence so they want to define in almost a umbrella term in this limited sense of God's presence but if we look at all of the revelation we can see that that doesn't just get used to describe God's presence it gets used to describe describe God's name and his attributes his works and we need to labor to understand it from the whole scope of scripture and that intrinsic part when we talk about God's essential nature and we say if I say God's glory and I'm thinking not of these two categories simultaneously but I'm just thinking of that and I'm wanting to communicate that to somebody how do I know what I'm speaking of when I think of God's intrinsic glory is it one attribute is it multiple attributes is it his a specific perspective reference to his fullness or and we know that God is not divided up into parts he's simple so if he's justice he's justice he's eternally justice you know if he's love he's eternally love we know that that the attributes aren't divided up but when we say an attribute we know what we're attempting to think about from revelation and focus our our sight upon in this incomprehensible God and when we say God's glory and we're trying to think of particularly his intrinsic the question comes up what are we considering what is what do we believe that refers to in God if I said immutability he would know what I'm seeking something better than others what I'm seeking to refer to in the nature of God but when I say God's intrinsic glory what am I referring to that's what this bullet's all about it's saying understanding how God's glory relates to God himself and I'm still under the first bullet point and then under extrinsic the glory of God is the extrinsic manifestation of the intrinsic so the glory of God is the extrinsic manifestation of the intrinsic and if you look at Romans 11 36 and I want to make a comment too like I was thinking about how this is this is very very challenging and to go through it and to repeat and to give saying the same thing different ways to help you try to understand what's being taught you can have the thought that how is this profitable or how is this going to be applied or how am I going to benefit and there are uses that we can try to emphasize and and that's going to come up in the practical theology however even if I don't hit on hit on it today this your your way of thinking and believing your way of the the God you consider when you pray and when you read if it's if you're not continuing to be sanctified and reformed in your thought and you don't take these kinds of these studies serious you're going to you're going to not be profited when you to to where you should be profited when you pray you know or when you read the bible or when you preach to others or when covid happens or when you have a physical ailment or when a loved one comes under some danger or is or there's death all these things in life all these trials persecution and adversity if if you don't consider this important and see that this will actually impact the way you respond to providence and inform your faith appropriately of course we know that we need the spirit to apply these things but um it's it's very beneficial even though it might seem like it's tedious and I don't think that everybody thinks it's tedious but to some they might and I'm letting you know please bear with us bear with the scripture humble yourself because having these thoughts these thoughts well organized around the biblical revelation helps you understand God better and commune with him faith more faithfully so understanding how God's glory relates to himself and now uh oh we're going to turn to priors 11 36 for of him through him and to him are all things to whom be the glory forever amen of him through him and to him are all things okay which part of those phrases of through and to is intrinsic speaking of God's intrinsic glory I'm sorry I said Proverbs Romans 11 36 Romans 11 36 and that that's actually a very pregnant statement because Paul's just spent 11 chapters speaking about the gospel in its doctrinal systematic way and then he sums it up so this is encompassing a lot here but for of him through him and to him so of him through him and to him three things there three prepositional phrases which one speaks of God's intrinsic glory from him yeah yeah yours has from but that that first one of from he's the source so we're speaking of his essential nature and then through him and to him are his extrinsic but you can see there there's this going out from his nature in salvation and in the gospel and then things are sustained and brought about through him and then they all return back to him so you can see that that is a biblical ordering ordering where it begins with the person and the nature of God and goes from him and back to him from him and back to him and this intrinsic is the from and this is through and to that's just a way of helping you continue to repeat the same thing so that it reinforces what your understanding of those two things are now let's go to this next part a wide ranging view of God's intrinsic glory I was circling this right what is our understanding of God's intrinsic glory when we use this word glory not immutability not justice not love not mercy but glory and we're speaking about God's and God about it with reference to God intrinsically what are we thinking about and this bullet already is telling you some there saying a wide ranging view of God's glory intrinsic glory so here's the question is God's intrinsic glory an attribute a summary of attributes or a summary attribute is it God's being or the outward expression of his being and there's some people that say that God's presence being manifested outwardly in Israel is his intrinsic glory they they they confused it and they combine it so that's why that question is there because there's some diversity among theologians answer knowing that God's extrinsic glory displays his intrinsic glory we must look at God's extrinsic glory in scripture to answer the question so what we're gonna do why why do we have to look at this to understand that like scripture the works of God history creation provenance why do we have to look here in order to help us understand what that is God's intrinsic glory in and of himself is too lofty we cannot attain it you know it's not something that we can relate to comprehend I think that that study on simplicity was very very helpful and I'm sure there's a difference in different theologians and how they consider the being of God or whether he's simple or not or what that really means to be simple without parts um because in God in his in his essential being there really isn't a an attribute or a list of attributes in the being of God there is only God in his godness but the way that he manifests his godness through creation redemptive history we see like a a multitude of we see God's godness in a multitude of like creaturely perfections yeah amen amen so this is the only way that we can know God is if he doesn't act first and and because he's incomprehensible so even though we're going to look at scripture that is actually a manifestation of God's glory we're going to ask questions of the scriptures what is that revealing about God's intrinsic glory like when somebody saw Jesus turn water to wine that event do you believe everybody became a believer in God through that event no he'd perform many miracles and people harden their hearts against him but can people still testify that that was glorious what are they speaking of the glory of they're speaking of the glory of the extrinsic and if we went to the water and the wine what we're not talking about is the glory of that that event we're wanting to seek to understand from that event the the nature of the God who caused that event and some people don't make that that connection they just stop there and they marvel so the next bullet here what does scripture and the displays of God's extrinsic glory teach us of God's intrinsic glory and if you remember we looked at Exodus 33 earlier where Moses says show me your glory and then he says I will have mercy on him I have mercy go to Exodus 40 and I know that this is a repetition for everybody maybe not this particular verse but looking at how glory takes on the meaning of presence we've seen that before but just just reminder then the cloud uh Exodus 40 verse 34 then the cloud covered the tabernacle of meeting and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle Moses was not able to enter because the cloud rested above it and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle and there we're speaking of God's glory and we know that's an extrinsic manifestation of God's glory but he is it's revealing something about God that he is protecting he's guiding because it says later whenever the cloud was taken up that the children of Israel would leave and when the cloud remained they remained so God was leading by that presence so we see God's grace we see God's sovereign power over the nature we see God's leadership and his sovereign guiding of his chosen people and the word the glory of God is a reference to his presence and turn to Psalm 24 this is one of the memory verses because this is a good summary or it's a good reminder 24 7 through 10 lift up your heads oh you gates and be lifted up you everlasting doors and the king of glory shall come in who is this king of glory the Lord strong and mighty the Lord mighty in battle lift up your heads oh you gates lift up you everlasting doors and the king of glory shall come in who is this king of glory the Lord of hosts he is the king of glory Sila that's a title or a designation he's the king of glory it's speaking about that designation is referring to his intrinsic glory and specifically we can see here who is this king of glory he's strong so it's a reference to his omnipotence why does he have that title or that designation the king of glory because of his strength because of his omnipotence and his justice he's mighty in battle his grace to deliver those who he's covenanted with and then later the Lord of hosts who is this king of glory the Lord of hosts the armies so you can see there and I'm gonna skip now and just read something out of this book to close also if we look more closely we would see in Psalm 19 or not more closely but we continue that God's glory is a reference to his works like in creation provenance and salvation Psalm 19 the heavens declare the glory of God so we can see yes there's the extrinsic glory of God in his creation however that creation is referring to and teaching us something about God's intrinsic glory his wisdom his power his grace to initiate that and to cause it and we could go on many other attributes that get referenced when we say the heavens declare what the glory of God well now let's start to measure the heavens and consider what that's teaching us about God with a biblical lens and we're going to come up with a whole bunch of information so also Isaiah 6 when uh Isaiah saw the Lord high and lifted up the seraphim we're saying holy holy holy is the Lord of hosts the whole earth is full of his glory and then John later picks up in chapter 12 verse 41 when Isaiah saw his glory and who did Isaiah see the glory of Jesus Christ so there we see that high and lifted up vision and all those uh nuances of that vision are teaching us about the glory of God he's holy separated different unique and worthy of all praise obedience and adoration and then we could go to Roman 6 and actually look at that last one and then I'll make I'll read and then we'll stop Roman 6 for therefore we were buried with him through baptism into death that just as just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the father not by the power of the father by the glory so you can see there the glory is a reference to God's fulfillment of the covenant of redemption promise to resurrect his son having completed his humiliation and it's we know it's a reference to his omnipotence and other things so having said that I would like to read this scripture adjoins a display of the glory of God to a variety of his attributes his holiness his power his beauty his majesty his goodness his salvation creation providence his judgment scripture adjoins God's glory to victory and even more astounding is that scripture links our triune God's glory with more holistic ideas that stresses very nature like his presence his name his holiness Old Testament scholars see his glory as his essence and it's spoken of as his face the spirit of fullness it's a reference to fullness and honor since God's glory is the extrinsic display of so many attributes and of a panorama of God's works and of holistic terms related to God's very nature it is clear that God's intrinsic glory must be viewed holistically it's not up under a holistic term it is a holistic term put differently if the display of God's power is the display of his glory if a display of God's holiness it is a display of his glory and if his presence is the central meaning of his glory then glory must be something broad enough to cover such wide-ranging depictions God's intrinsic glory is broader than a single attribute it corresponds with his very being and sometimes functions as a sort of summation of his attributes and listen to Edwards the thing signified by that name the glory of God when spoken of as the supreme and ultimate end of all God's works is the emanation and true external expression of God's internal glory and fullness in other words God's internal glory in a true and just exhibition so it's a a holistic term that encompasses all of those attributes gets referenced to his name and his presence his works and when we think of God's glory and these two categories and we're thinking about God's nature and we say God's glory we don't need to be limited to a particular perspective but remember that it's a holistic term let's let's close for time sake father in heaven king of glory thank you for the revelation of this word and of your very nature help us lord to be humbled by your glory and to ascribe glory with you or not with you but to you and share with you in the glory of this salvation and union with your son thank you again for the time and we pray these things in christ's name amen