 Board. Good to go. Greetings, everybody. Welcome to the Amherst Design Review Board meeting of July 24th, 2023. My name is Erica DeCus. And as the chair of the Amherst Design Review Board, I'm calling this meeting to order at 5.01 p.m. The meeting is being recorded and will be made available in the town of Amherst YouTube channel in minutes or being taken. Pursuant to chapter 20 of the Acts of 2021 and extended again by chapter two of the Acts of 2023, this meeting will be conducted via remote means. Members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so via Zoom or by phone. No in-person attendance with members of the public will be permitted, but every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the perceiving of the time via technological means. A hyperlink to the hearing will be posted on the town's online calendar. Board members, I will take a roll call. And when I call your name, please unmute yourself, answer affirmatively and refer to mute. Catherine Porter. Present. Thank you. Lindsay Schnarr. Here. And we just as a side note are awaiting appointment of members representatives serving from the historical commission and the planning board. But we do have a quorum with the three of us present tonight. And Rob Wachilla and Chris Brestrup from the board members. If technical issues arise, we may need to pause temporarily to fix the problem and then continue the meeting. If the discussion needs to pause, it will be noted in the minutes. Please use the raise hand function to ask a question or make a comment. I will see your request and call me to speak after speaking. Remember to remove yourself. The general public comment item is reserved for public comment regarding items that are not on tonight's agenda. Please be aware that the board will not respond to comments during the general public comment period. Public comment could also be heard at other times during the meeting when determined to focus. Please indicate that you wish to make a comment by clicking the raise hand button when public comment is solicited. If you've joined the Zoom meeting using a telephone, please indicate that you wish to make a comment by pressing star nine on your phone. When called on, please identify yourself by stating your full name and address and put yourself back into mute when finished speaking. Residents can express their views for up to three minutes or at the discretion of the design review board chair. If the speaker does not comply with these guidelines or exceeds their allotted time, their participation will be discontinued from the meeting. Tonight's agenda includes the following. DRB FY 2023 number 23 Kendrick property management to construct a fence at the rear of the building at 69 Main Street and DRB FY 2401 white line brewing company to install tables and chairs for outdoor dining at 24 North Pleasant. We'll move on to approval of the May 22 meeting minutes, then general public comment period, other business and let's get started with Kendrick property management. Do we have a representative in attendance tonight? I believe we do. We have a Mr. Croy Paquette from Four Seasons Fencing. I could promote him to be a panelist so he can present to the board. All right. So Croy, you have to accept the invitation when you get it. Alrighty. Can you hear me? Hi, Croy. Nice to see you. Yeah, we can hear you just fine. Quick question for you. Are you able to share your screen or would you like me to do that on your behalf? The images that you sent? Yeah, I'm not sure how to do that. I'm operating from my handheld device. I could not make it back to my office in time. No problem at all. I've got you. I just have to track down those files. Do you wanna start off with like a little introduction to what you're proposing? Yeah. So I was Scott from Kendrick Property Management. Got in touch with me in regards to putting in a few panels in the rear of 69th Street. And basically, I believe the neighbors had continued to use the space that's, I guess, not rightfully theirs. So basically, it's just a divider there between the living quarters, if you're looking from the rear to the right in the business that's going in at 69th Main Street. Somehow lost track of, oh, there are the pictures. Okay, great. Can you see this one? Did the screen just change? Somebody told me it's the right picture with the cardboard box in the front. And you sent this, the picture of the fence. Yeah, that's the cut sheet for the panel. So it's a six foot height. The panels are eight foot in length and there will be three panels totaling 24 linear foot. And there's the drawing. Yep. Okay. Lindsay or Katherine, anything to ask or comment on? No, it looks fine to me as I suppose the one question is, is there going to be any conflict about the placement? You said this fence will be on your property, right? Or the property of the people you're doing the fence for, not in the property, not in the adjacent property, right? No, ma'am, it will be on the property of 69th. Yeah, okay, all right, okay, fine. Looks good. Lindsay, any thoughts? Can we go back to the previous slide, please? Here's that one. And then this one. Yeah. And then the drawing. Yes, hang on. This one? Yeah. Yeah, I think it's, I mean, I don't see any issues. As long as the electrical box, looks like it's going to be pretty close to that post, but otherwise I'm not too concerned. Yeah, I would say nor am I. I mean, I don't know if it says anywhere of the material of the fence. Oh, vinyl, okay. Yeah. So it's not going to be maintenance. It'll be white. I think it'll be an improvement. Right. And then there's no door access to the property on the right. No, like right, no pathway or anything like that. So I- No, it's not obstructing pathway. Okay. All right, so. Okay, I move that we approve the petition for this fence as is. All right. Second that. All those in favor? Okay. Oh. Hi. unanimous vote. Thank you. You're all set. Good to go. All righty. So I can find that permit in the, when I log on to the Amherst.gov site. So basically I'll tell Jennifer Mullins who you've been contacting with that the DRB gave the approval to go ahead and move forward. So you can reach out to her about next steps. I believe you have to get, I'm not sure what kind of permit you need after. In fact, I don't know if you need a administrative approval or not, but you could reach out to her tomorrow and I'll let her know that there be approved your permit to go ahead and move forward with the, with the fence. Erica, we do have a hand race. I don't know if somebody in the audience just see wall. I don't know if you wanted to let the person speak or what, but. Well, I suppose we could, if it's a member of the public we could invite a public comment on this at this time. We don't have a big agenda tonight. That's fine. I'll let the person to talk real quick. Here we go. Hi, my name is Jesse Wall and I would like to say that Catherine is sending me very explicit images. And that's all I have to say. Thank you. Fuck you. It's a Zoom bomber. All right. Well, this guy's going to get removed. There you go. I caught that early on Catherine. I knew as soon as you started going down that route. Yeah. Sorry about that Catherine. Sorry about that. It was a uncomfortable moment. Yes it was. So, Croy, you're all set. All righty, perfect. Thank you very much. Thanks very much. All right, thank you. Okay. And then we'll move on then to white line brewing. All right, so we have a Mr. Ray Barry and I can promote to panelists for you. Excellent. And Ray, you have to accept the invitation when you get it. Nice background. Hi Ray, can you hear us? He might be fixing some stuff on his end with his speaker and whatnot. We'll give him a few seconds. All right. And I will, I'll do a really quick screen share to kind of tighten up a little bit. We have already approved the signage, what kind of facade treatment of white lion and this proposal is for the outdoor dining space, whoops, not my touchscreen, which is in the plan here. And I believe that they're not proposing really any changes at all. They have cleaned up the table surfaces, repainted the fencing, cleaned up the black. As far as I know, there aren't any proposed changes here. I mean, that's something that we can ask Mr. Barry when he comes in. So it looks like he must have logged off the meeting. So if you don't mind, I might, is okay if we exit out of screen share real quick just so I could see if he might have rejoined as an attendee. Oh, there he is. All right, so I'm gonna try promoting him to panelists again. He has to accept another invitation. Oh, there he is. Sorry about that. I don't know what happened. My computer went down. Thankfully my iPhone was readily hand in my hand. So here we go. Great, well, we're happy to have you. Thank you for being here. I was just giving a brief introduction, but it's probably better that you do that. Could you briefly describe your proposal tonight? Yes, it's great to be back in front of you. So thank you for your time. Last time I was in front of the panel or the commission was for the exterior signage. So we got through that lovely process. A lot of compliments. So thank you for all of your assistance. Today I'm in front of you and regarding the outdoor seating area that we're presenting to you. And I'm presenting a layout that has not changed. We're utilizing the setup that was previously utilized by the previous occupant. The previous occupant, as well as White Lion, the previous occupant had custom made foot plates and seating placed on the exterior of the space. We went ahead and refurbished all of the table tops, cleaned up the concrete area, repainted the rot iron fencing, and basically just beautified the area. We're also finalizing the installation of new rope lighting to accentuate the space. So the consumer, the streetscape, those that were accustomed to what it looked like in the past, they'll see a similar setup. Obviously it will be refurbished and brightened up, but we thought that the existing footprint and the existing layout was well placed and there were no changes to that particular setup. And would you like me to screen share your images or are you able to do that? Now that I'm utilizing my phone, I will not be able to screen share, so I apologize. Well, I'll pop those back up so that everybody can see. All right, so here's the picture of the outside. Clean up, are the lights going under the canopy? Yes, so the lights will be under the canopy. If someone were to walk by later this evening, you will see that the lights are operational. So we're pretty excited about that. Again, it just brings another level of the ambience and optic to the outdoor seating space. Great, and then we've got the floor plan of the outdoor seating space here. The canopy is over in this section and this one's just the print document. Okay, so do you have anything to add or should I open it up to comments and questions from the board members? No, I think I'm comfortable in having it open up to the board members. Okay, so Lindsey, do you wanna start off this time? Any thoughts? I think it looks great. I'm very excited about it. I don't have any concerns. Are there any other views? This is the only one. Yeah, this is the only one they provide. Okay. Yeah, the only thing that even slightly caught my eye was probably not in our preview. It's just the door slaying out from the brewing area and the plan. Just looking like it might wanna go on the other side under the canopy, it looked like it might. Can you go back to the planner? This one. Yeah. It's probably just, you know, because I look at plans all day, but it just catches my eye because it's kind of like, looks like the way it's drawn. It's sort of cut off by the brewing equipment, but it's probably not part of what you're here for. So otherwise, I think it looks great. I'm very excited about it. Catherine, any thoughts? Well, I'll have to say, probably driven by this place 10,000 times. I didn't realize how much seating area was there and it looks really good. And I also, the canopy, again, I had no idea there was a canopy there, but it looks good. And I definitely think the lighting will add a nice touch, a nice ambiance to it, and the furniture is very tasteful and shouldn't in any way offend anybody. So yeah, it looks good. And the signage looks wonderful. So good to go. Great. Similarly, I don't have any comments or any critiques at all. A comment is that I think in the past, a previous resident of this space, Boone Hopps of the side of the, over here on this side, maybe on the corner. And I thought it was a really nice touch to kind of add some green to all of the black canopy and the black furniture. But that would never hold you to that. It looked really nice. All right. So barring any suggestions for biochanges that we want to make of. May I just ask a question? Sure. I think you have a picture of the seating in your packet. Is that right? The chairs? I don't. I either didn't download it or it wasn't in there. Oh, okay. Because I thought those came to the planning board, Ray's coming before the planning board on the 2nd of August, I think. So he can show the chairs to the planning board. They look fine. I just wanted to make sure that you didn't have any issues with the chairs, but okay. Yeah, I don't think I ever got a copy of the chairs, but I remember somebody from the office showed it to me after the fact, so. They're metal, right? Metal chairs? Yes, they're black. They're black. I believe that the base is a dark black or a dark, or excuse me, a dark gray or black. And they're all purpose chairs that will be removed in the evening. And obviously during inclement weather to compliment the smaller two seat type tables. So I believe it's a total of six chairs altogether. Are they metal chairs or are they, I mean, if something else like plastic? They are the PVC universal plastic vinyl type chairs. Okay. And when people are at these high tables, do they just stand? Yes, they are tabletop stand-ups if we need to accommodate someone that wants to sit, there are bar stools that we can, that are on the inside, bring out to accommodate their request. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. I move that we accept the petition as presented. Second. Thank you. All those in favor, can you say aye? Aye. Great. That's a unanimous vote. Thank you very much for being here with us tonight. Thank you very much. I appreciate all of you and looking forward to our grand opening sometime soon. Well, it looks great. Yeah, it looks great. Okay. Thank you so much. I appreciate everyone. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right, bye-bye. Closing some tabs here. Next move is to review the minutes from the last meeting. Did everybody get a chance to take a look at those or should I screen share? I'm okay. I don't think I did, if you don't mind. No problem. I don't know if I was present. I was. You are. Yeah. Excellent. Yeah, thank you. Yes, it was another quick one. We did, the Blue Ingo wasn't, they were removed from the agenda. So we talked about, whoops, the propane tanks in the back of the building by Town Hall, Wallards and things. Hang on, let me make it so that I can scroll through. All right, I'll do a slow scroll here. I got, I got this far. All right. That's good. Most of the approval when we adjourned. That was an efficient meeting. That was an efficient meeting. Wow. This one's a close second. I'm doing great. I measure we can get one page of this for the minutes. So we'll see how that goes. So can I have a motion to approve that? Meetings, minutes of May 22nd, 2023. I move that we approve the minutes on May 22nd. Second. All in favor? Aye. Do we have any members of the public who would like to speak tonight? Any other business? Great. Rob, anything we're missing? Uh, so just update Lindsey who just joined. So we're looking for two more members to join who have to be appointed from the Star Commission and the playing board. The Star Commission is going to appoint a representative at their next meeting, which is next week. And the playing board, according to Chris Brushrup, is going to appoint their member sometime in the near future. So you said, like, what, mid-August? Sometime in August. Either the second or the 16th. But the problem is that they don't have, they don't currently have another architect other than Bruce Coldham, who's already serving on PVPC and Doug Marshall, who's already the chair. So I'd have to kind of arm twist either one of them to serve on DRB. Do they have to be an architect from the planning board? Is that what you're saying? A design professional, architect, landscape architect, or other design professional, I think is what it says. Could it be somebody who's an artist? Like, does that count? Yeah, or someone with equivalent professional training? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, we welcome whoever comes to join us and appreciate their service. So we'll try to keep our meeting short. I'm like the planning board. Okay. That's all I have. Okay, Grant, and we meet again. So I would say as of right now, the next meeting is looking like August 21st at five. And we might have another application coming up. And that's all I know about right now. So very, very slow summer for DRB. Excuse me. I think it was August 28th. Yes, that's correct. That's my bad. August 28th. I was looking at the wrong day. It's August 28th at five. It's the next meeting for this board. All right. Fantastic. Thank you. All right, all right. Grant, so move to adjourn. Second. Yes. Have a lovely night, everybody. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you. We'll see you soon. Bye. Thanks.