 We had conferences and we had symposiums and we had exercises but this was a missing link. Those countries that need an amphibious capability, how do we get together to talk about hey what are you doing that's working, what are you developing, where are you going. So these allow us to talk through things ahead of time before a crisis, before a typhoon, a natural disaster, so that we can be better prepared when we do show up. In the symposium we have countries which have fledgling capabilities, amphibious capabilities, as well as capabilities which are very established. So each has gone through its own journey of establishing its capabilities. So participating in the symposium and interacting with various participants, you know the journey which they have gone through. Logistics is a key for conductor operation but for the amphibious unit or amphibious operation it's very difficult to make a support line through the ocean to the objective land and the logistic field is very wide. So the logistics is a great important for amphibious operation. There's a lot I gained in attending this symposium. I met old friends and meet new ones. This is very important in our organization where we belong from other nations, from other countries. The gains here is we get the knowledge that we need which is very important in this manner, the amphibious logistics. We learn a lot from other countries' experiences sharing its other subject matter expertise and how we look at each other in their own field. This is the third pass I'm attending. I did attend the 2015 and 2017 pass too. So this gave a greater opportunity for me to understand the full range of amphibious operations, capabilities and the future of amphibious operations too. Certainly partnerships we built up over here were very fruitful and we have number of training engagements and other opportunities we have received from other countries. That's also a great benefit from attending this Pacific amphibious leaders symposium.