 Well welcome everybody to our June 1st Friday forum, and we have a great program as usual, but as usual I have some announcements to give to all of you. First, let me just give you the lineup for our first Friday forums for the rest of the year as much as we have them together yet. July we have off, I think everybody knows we take July off in first Friday forums. In August we're working on having either Senator Johnson or Senator Baldwin come, if any of you ever have tried to book events or times with any politician, especially federal politicians, and probably have more success having your teeth pulled. So we're working on that, and one of the two of them we're really thinking we'll have here for the August. We would like to have Senator Baldwin because we've not really heard from her, especially in her capacity as the newest senator. So that's our focus, but as our backup we're looking at having Mary Ispiter, who is the new chair of the committee that Tim Sullivan chaired, working on work attainment and training our workforce for the future, kind of tied with our program for today. So that's the August first Friday forum. In September we're going to have Reed Hall, who's the new executive director of the Wisconsin Economic Development Corp, and he'll be here to tell us on how things are going and how we clean things up over there. October we'll have our legislators back for their legislative review, and we'll be near the end of the year, so it should be pretty interesting and be able to give us a lot of good information as to what happened and what will happen in the future. And in November we are going to have, last year in November we started with, we decided to have an economist come in and kind of give a presentation to us about what they thought the economy looked for the next year for Shipwagon County, Wisconsin primarily, and also the U.S. We're going to do the same thing we're still working on lining up that economist. In December we haven't decided yet, so that's still in the works. As far as announcements, a number of announcements that are important to give, the chamber is working on a new CFO round table in full night. We don't have the details on when that's going to be or where it's going to be. We do. The morning of June 20th from 7.30 to 9.00 at the chamber in the large economy. The morning of June 20th. At the chamber, okay. By the way, stay tuned if you're interested for all the details and as usually you can go on the chamber website and get all this information. Focal point. Next focal point is on June 19th, not the next one, but a focal point presentation is on June 19th at 7 a.m. entitled Dex Generation Marketing. Also a focal point plus program on June 11th is entitled Building the Team and the speaker will be Cindy Moncreef. For those of you who are old enough to remember, the early Bucs City Moncreef was the key star of many Bucs teams and so he's going to be here to speak. There's also a chamber member only. When I say chamber member only, I mean the chamber has extended to all of the other county chambers the ability to participate in our chamber events at the chamber rate, an effort to bring our chambers closer together. So for all the chamber members, as so defined, there's going to be a chamber member main stage entitled Fast Forward to 2014 really focused on the health care changes that are going to take place in 2014. That is sponsored by United Health Care again June 20th and probably most importantly lunch is free. So remember June 20th and it's at Pine Hills. So a double benefit. So June 20th, United Health Care is sponsoring presentation on changes in the health care laws. There's a business after hours on June 25th at Bookworm Gardens if some of you aren't aware that that's sort of the new park, Children's Park. Just before you get to UW-Sheboygan, it's really magnificent and you'd enjoy it. Again, that's June 25th from five to seven. And then last but not least, the golf outing is on September 11th and the format has changed this year. So you didn't have the one day where you got to set your alarm and all your clocks whatever so you could call in as quick as you could at eight o'clock. Now it's a shotgun start and so you can just go online and fill in when you want to add your name and everybody will be part of that shotgun start. Right, yeah space is limited so don't wait too long. Usually fills up. Two last things before I announce our speakers. You know, you always get these surveys and you're wondering about, you know, did they listen to the survey? We took the survey last month and we did listen. One of the things that was requested was cookies at lunch. There were cookies at lunch so remember to take the cookies. That was a relatively easy thing to arrange. And the last announcement I just would maybe just like to bring you up to speed on is I think you all are aware that the Chamber and the Spitz Advocacy Committee has been working on on the issue of Sheboygan County being non-attainment and by that some of you may not know. We, Sheboygan County has been deemed to have exceeded certain ozone levels and so there are certain requirements or restrictions that are placed onto the county. We're the only county in the whole state, the whole county that has that designation. Half of Kenosha County has that and we believe it's very unfair the way they do it because it's based on a monitoring station on Lake Michigan by Terry Andrew Park. So it really is measuring primarily the winds carrying the particulates from the south up here and we live with it. We don't think that's right. We're fighting an uphill battle because we're battling the federal government on this one, the bureaucracy but we're going to fight on even though the chances of success may be lower fighting on and the committee has been working with the EPA and the DNR and we've just finalized a letter that's going to be sent to the EPA. The DNR is actually going to send the letter and we'll follow up with some letters afterward but it's going to ask the county or the EPA to at least release most of Sheboygan County. I'm just going to say primarily from west of I-43. That's not exact but for our purposes here it's good enough. West of I-43 basically take it off non-attainment because we believe that the statistics show that there's reason to believe that that's not the case for that part of the county and then we have to battle on for the rest of the county and in that regard we're probably going to try to ask that a second monitoring station be put in and I'm happy to say that through our state legislative contingent there was the budget had an addition to it that would provide funds to put in a second monitoring station. Now that hasn't passed yet because the budget hasn't passed yet. Mike, right. Yeah, so that's a good news as well. The goal line still is a distance away but we can see the little bit clearer so we'll keep fighting on. So with that we're going to move on to our program and as we announced we have three speakers and we thought again there's a lot of talk about preparing our workforce for our employers in Sheboygan County and we have in our three secondary institutions have actually been working on that. We may not all be aware of that and we thought it's time to bring them in and let them talk about how they're dealing with the needs to educate our workforce to be better able to be employed in our businesses. So we have with us today Jackie Joseph Silverstein who is the dean at UW Sheboygan and we have Lakeland LTC Lakeland Lake Shore Technical College President Mike Lancer and Lakeland College President Dan Eck. And so I think Jackie is going to go first and each of them is going to give an overview of what they're doing and then afterwards we'll have questions and answers so Jackie will go first then Mike and then Dan. So they miss anything? Anybody have anything else to bring up? Okay good with that Jackie I think you have to hold this because it doesn't hold it up here doesn't work well. Thanks Dave. Good afternoon everybody. It's my pleasure to be here today to be able to tell you a little bit about UW Sheboygan and the kinds of things we're doing to try to help provide an educated workforce to the county. Since I'm the first speaker on behalf of my colleagues who are joining me today we'd like to thank the Chamber leadership for inviting us today. And also on your tables we decided not to use PowerPoint because we got the word that PowerPoint isn't necessarily so easy to see in this room and it's such a beautiful day who would want to close draperies if we had them here. So instead what we did was we each provided you with a one page overview of our colleges and you'll find those on your tables. So I'm going to tell you first a little bit about UW Sheboygan in general. I'm thinking most of you know much of this and then I'll tell you about the programming and courses that we're offering and how we believe we are helping to meet workforce needs in this community. As you all likely know we are part of a larger system. We are part of one of the 13 UW campuses and we provide the first two years of a baccalaureate degree to these students in Sheboygan County and other parts of our region as well. There are certain advantages to being part of a larger system, a small campus and a large system and I'll talk a little bit more about those in a few seconds. The UW colleges are a critical part of the UW systems commitment to what's called the original Wisconsin idea and education what that Wisconsin idea meant was to bring the intellectual capital of the UW system to all parts of the state and to bring a UW education to all parts of the state and that's what we're doing at UW Sheboygan. The degree that we grant is the associate of arts and sciences degree and we often call ourselves a liberal arts college and sometimes we talk about getting the first two years of your liberal arts education on our campus and that is indeed true but very often that's a little misleading and that liberal arts colleges very often offer a wide array of courses that can help students to prepare for other careers as well and that's the case at UW Sheboygan. We have wonderful faculty and we teach courses in philosophy and history and sociology, yes but we also offer business courses. You can take three different levels of accounting at our institution. We offer pre-engineering courses and pre-education courses, pre-health career courses. If there is someone who wants to go on to be a doctor or a vet you can do those pre-med courses or pre-vet courses on our campus as well. So there is a significant amount of breadth to the courses we offer although our degree is the associate of arts and sciences degree. You're even able to do something called an emphasis on our campus which is to take three or four courses in a focused area and very often those courses will be courses that will later become part of your bachelor's degree major. By being part of a system we can offer a wide variety of courses that a small school with 800 students might not normally be able to offer. We have open to our students all of the courses within the UW College's online program and in addition we also work with our partner colleges to offer courses that any one of us might not be able to offer on our own because we don't have the expertise at our site or we don't have enough students to be able to offer a course in a cost-effective manner. So our students benefit from being part of a larger system while being on a small campus. Also on our campus just so you know everything that's available there is we do have a continuing education unit that's been focusing on personal enrichment and programming for K-12 students and I'm hoping to bring more professional development activities to the college that employers would like to see us doing and I plan to reach out to some of you over the summer and find out what some of those things are that you'd like to see us do. You probably also know that Extension Services is co-located on our campus and something you might not know is some of our four-year schools have programs on our campus. Platteville and Oshkosh actually offer some on-site programs that I'll talk about in a little bit because they're very much focused on workforce in the community. Who are our students? Well we have approximately 800 students. Those numbers go up and down depending on the economy. 37% are over 22 so we have a fair number of adult students and 54% of those students are part-time. Most of them part-time because they work but sometimes there are students who come part-time just because they can't afford full-time education and they kind of move in and out of the system. So what are the programs we offer and how does the education we provide impact the development of an educated workforce in Sheboygan County? Well as I said we have a very focused mission. We offer the Associate of Arts degree but we offer a wide range of courses that allow them to begin the pursuit of their bachelor's degree. I already mentioned this in addition to pre-education, pre-engineering, pre-health and business we offer all of the first or second level courses in the STEM fields. If you want to be a chemist you can start at UW Sheboygan and get those chemistry courses in the first two years. If you want to be a geographer you can take those courses on our campus. So you can start here and then move on to any one of 200 majors at other institutions and many of those are very related to things people might want to come back here and find their career back home here in Sheboygan. As I said we partner with our four year schools and the interesting and neat thing about those partnerships are those are designed to be seamless transitions. Very often you'll hear students complain my credits didn't transfer. Well if you do one of these partnership programs where students don't have to move to another campus either because we're offering the program on site or the second two years of a program are being offered through distance education you'll have a seamless transfer into those programs. They were designed that way. And those programs include the engineering program at Platville where you can get either an electrical or a mechanical engineering degree. We have about 50 pre-engineering students on our campus and 20 to 30 actually taking Platville courses right now and we're hoping and expecting those numbers to grow as we build our engineering building on campus over the next couple of years. With Oshkosh we offer elementary education and they're going to be launching in the fall a special education program that I believe is going to be housed in Plymouth as well as a human services leadership program which we believe our nonprofit organizations would be interested in and that program is going to be through interactive TV video. Some of our partners are only offering their programs online and many of those programs are in management and business and also in information technology program with UW Milwaukee. So those are two ways that we're trying to meet workforce needs. We are offering a breadth of courses and for example the accounting. You could have a student who's now taken beginning and intermediate accounting with us and you might already have a role for that student in your company so there are opportunities for even our students while they're still in school to have some of the skills that you might need in your businesses. But the third thing I wanted to just briefly touch on before I ended was to circle back to those general education requirements I started with and their value in preparing an educated workforce and you've all read all of the articles about a liberal arts education and does that prepare you for the workforce or does that not prepare you for the workforce and there's a lot of conversation around soft skills and soft skills can range from those behavioral skills like getting to work on time and dressing appropriately for work to what I've recently seen called the foundational cognitive skills and those skills are the critical thinking skills, the analytical skills the quantitative skills, the communication skills there's an organization called ATC which most of you know about because your kids have taken the ATC test which looks at college readiness well over the last ten years or so that organization's beginning to look at workforce readiness as well and they have identified the same areas and have coined that term I believe, foundational cognitive skills if you take a full range of general education courses you're going to leave UW-Cheboygan with those skills the UW colleges has identified certain proficiency areas in which all students will have competency upon completion of their gen ed requirements and those are these foundational skills and the proficiency areas really match those foundational skills analytical skills, quantitative skills, communicative skills and we also have an aesthetic skills category but we don't just say students graduate with those skills faculty have actually developed as they are all over the country now specific performance indicators and rubrics and proficiency is measured using common standards applied across the academic disciplines so students in gen ed courses develop those skills that employers are looking for that are some of the basic cognitive skills so these are the three ways that our campus is helping to develop an educated workforce for our county and I hope that over the years we'll be able to do more with those no commute degree programs so more students can get their degrees right here and get into the workforce right here and also as I said before the opportunity to offer professional development programs through continuing ed, thank you, Mike Thanks Jackie Is this on? Okay, thanks When Jackie and Dan and I were preparing for this I couldn't help but think how fortunate people in this area are to have the access to higher education and when you think about it for just about any career field or any path that you want to take you can get your start here and your finish in the Lakeshore area I hope when you come to LTC if you've been there that you get to see firsthand the type of education that we provide you know when students come in by us we hope that we're enriching their lives but we also hope that we're strengthening their families and their communities and the employers and the economy that they work for it's hard to go through a day without bumping into somebody that maybe went through LTC or went through a technical education when you go to a restaurant when you maybe visit a manufacturer get your taxes done personally if you get in a car accident the people who respond first are all technical college or LTC grads actually I encountered one of our graduates a couple weeks ago on my way to Madison and it just so happened I was going 65 and it was in a 55 mile range and he was doing his job I told him he was doing his job a little bit too good to stop me but whether it's in the rural area on the farms or through our agriculture programs or in the cities you know the businesses that you work in you'll find evidence of LTC preparing that workforce so I was just going to give you a little overview about our college talk about our program offerings and what we're doing in the area of the workforce preparation our main campus is in Cleveland many of you have been there or at least driven by it it's hard to miss with our outdoor wind lab with the four wind turbines that we have on campus and our climbing tower we're also in the job centers in Manitowoc and Sheboyin County and there we provide primarily our basic skills training we last year opened up in conjunction with Plymouth and working with Cary, the Plymouth Science and Technology Center where the school uses the facility during the day and the students train in welding and machine tool and programs like that but we also use it to deliver high speed machine technician training in the evening and other industrial type training in the off hours we just recently opened up the Lakeshark Culinary Institute and I hope you have a chance to visit it is open to the public on Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays and I think when you're there it really shows you the type of training that we provide so it really mixes the classroom and the hands-on so all the students there right away from day one they're getting the hands-on experience and just about every program we have has either a clinical or an internship or some type of component integrated with it we have a variety of delivery methods whether it's evening, a lot of our courses are blended online our flexibility which combines a number of different delivery methods and our traditional day programs our placement is about 85% and that's how we get measured both here at the state and with the legislature and about 87% of our people who graduate from LTC stay local we also are involved in a number of different community service activities we work collaboratively with Lakeland on the Voluntary Income Tax Assistance Program where our students in the accounting program do taxes for people who have under I think it's a $50,000 income level and we also on campus work with our local dentists in providing dental care through the Lakeshark Community Dental Clinic where we serve Medicaid patients and last year we served over 700 people in that area we have about 14,000 people that will touch a year through our different areas of business our average age is a little higher about 31 we get a portion of students right out of high school but we get people all throughout their careers about 8% of our students the people that we're serving already have a degree and that could be an associate degree it could be a bachelor's degree or it could be a master's degree and we have a significant amount of our students are part-time each one of our programs has an advisory committee which is made up of people like you in the room there are graduates and employers and employees and that's a key part of us staying connected and keeping our programs current so we talked a little bit about our different career programs so we'll have anywhere from accounting to welding to wind energy technology in a number of different areas in business and industry or business and technology, health and human services public safety, energy agriculture and we have some programs that are unique to LTC we have the only wind energy technology program in the state and one of a handful of programs with that capacity in the United States we actually have the longest-running nuclear technology program in the United States on a community college campus we also with our Lake Shark culinary institute there's other culinary schools but we're the only one that's running in a fully operating restaurant and our judicial reporting programs and manufacturing management are unique programs to the state another area of our business is our workforce solutions and this is where our team works directly with business and industry and customizing training to meet their needs we have our programs but an employer when they're asking they might not want the whole program and most of the time they don't but they want a certain piece of that program and we'll customize what we're doing to meet their specific needs we also run seminars just whatever the community needs usually what our seminars are run on are topics that for mainly small employers who might not be able to have enough to have a customized training session on campus and we also have a Center for Entrepreneurship that Kristen Abel actually works with the Chamber and the Economic Development Corporation in Manitowoc County in providing service to those people who are interested in starting a business so when you look a lot of our graduates so she's not only working with people in the community but working with our current students to help them if they have an idea or have a thought on starting up their business we have a number of different certificate programs and certifications we're actually a member of an organization called NC3 which is the National Coalition of Certification Centers and we work with companies like Train and SnapOn to provide certification specific to their industry so if you need to be certified in torque we can do that for you or certified in multi-meter we can do that for you if you need to be certified in tower climbing we can do that certification as well and we have a number of industrial and construction apprentices that we run in collaboration with the Bureau of Apprenticeship Standards and local employers one thing about our enrollments they tend to go inverse of the economy well, our enrollments will drop off because people are working but a couple years ago when we were at the height of unemployment we had about 1600 dislocated workers that were attending and enrolled in programs so our enrollments were at the peak but some of the specific things that we're doing to prepare our workforce is working with our high school partners to make sure that there's a pipeline coming from the schools to higher education into the workforce Plymouth Science and Technology Centers this next year we're going to have 30 students each week from the Sheboygan schools out on campus enrolled in our welding one of them is welding, this year we actually had two students from Sheboygan schools that got their technical diploma in welding two weeks before they got their high school diploma so it's things like that and when you look around at all the higher education options it's really helping students find that right option and what's really going to excite them and what's their passion we're also involved in the youth apprenticeship program we coordinate that in Sheboygan County and that program three years ago there might have been six students enrolled next year we're going to have about 65 and it's a work based learning where they're going to work directly with the employers and also take some courses from Lakeshore Lakeshore Technical College we recently literally rolled out the advanced manufacturing mobile lab and it's something that we worked down with a number of local partners but it's a moving facility that can go out to the schools and can go out to business do training primarily in electromechanical and industrial maintenance and we're also in the process of expanding our programs in CNC and machining which right now there's about 100 job openings in this area we have capacity for about 20 we're doubling that program and we're actually adding another depth to the training we're also doubling our welding program and adding on a fabrication robotic welding to that eight years ago we did not have one full-time welding instructor now we have five so you can just see the growth and the demand for that type of skill and during that we're going to be adding on some square footage it's hard to we can take a room like this and we can do a lot of types of training in here but when you're talking about CNC equipment and welding you need a certain infrastructure so we're moving on that and we'll be breaking ground next month and be ready to start training in January so looking around I see Mike Brookens sitting there and Mike's an LTC grad and actually was our distinguished alumni and after Mike graduated from LTC he was working and he finished up his degree at Lakeland College and became a CPA and is a real leader in our community and so when you look at LTC our main job is to get people jobs and that's what we focus on but we're not a dead end and a lot of times we can be a career, provide a person a career that's going to provide a family supporting wage for the rest of their life but we also can be that first step on other things as well so we're real proud to work with UW-Shaboygan and UW Oshkosh in our collaborative nursing program where students can get their RN at Lake Shore Technical College and work with UW-Shaboygan, UW-Manitok and UW-Oshkosh to finish up their bachelor's degree we have a number of collaborations going with Lakeland where students start at LTC and as they're working can advance themselves as well so I appreciate having an opportunity to share a little bit about LTC and I'll turn it over to Dan alright thank you Mike and thank you everyone I'll tell you a little bit about Lakeland and a little bit about what we're doing Lakeland as you know, hopefully know we're outside of Howard's Grove our residential campus we have about 865 students living there about two-thirds of them live on campus about one-third commute we have a lot of alumni here in Shaboygan County, most of them in Wisconsin as well and some of them worldwide I want to talk primarily today about our adult programs our evening weekend online programs where we're very excited about what we contribute to the economy of the region we have seven centers around the state where people can get their bachelor's degree or a master's degree and we also have a branch campus in Tokyo Japan where you can get a two-year degree but in the evening we can an online program we have several majors you can choose from two of the newest majors we've added are a communications major which focuses on new media which we think is very exciting we have a master's in counseling program we also have popular programs our business programs and accounting programs are our most popular about two-thirds of our students and our adult evening weekend online programs are in a business program of some sort but as you heard Jackie say that liberal arts education that's the underpinning of what we do because when we go around and we talk to employers time and time again we hear they need graduates who can think and solve problems and who can communicate and that's where the liberal arts tradition are in our business program between our traditional campus and our evening program that liberal arts foundation even if they're not going to be a religion major or a sociology major learning to think is very very important because when you have somebody to do a job at your place you don't want them to do just exactly what you tell them to do you want them to go above and beyond that and solve the problems and then tell you what they did and time and time again that's where we're seeing the struggle so that's what we want to focus on we can do is provide degree completion or we can provide degrees from start to finish or the graduate degrees and we can do it face to face in Howard's Grove, our Sheboygan campus or we can do it online and the number one thing we can do right now Lakeland College for the future is be at the table and talk to the employers around here and see what do you need in a graduate from Lakeland College and we're in the midst of a strategic planning process and that's what we're doing we're going around and talking to people what's relevant because the big battle right now is what's the value of a four year degree or a graduate degree the jobs that are going to be hot five years from now, ten years from now you don't know what they are they don't exist right now so we can all put out graduates that can think on their feet and can react and get more education and training as they need it they will be able to fill those jobs when those jobs come up they'll still be in the same industry they'll still be in tourism but you have no clue right now what they're going to be doing you think about how technology changes from year to year we've got a new program now one of the things we're really excited about in our evening program is called BlendEd version 2.0 for a long time at Lakeland we've been allowing people to take courses online or in the classroom they can show up that night or they can say well I can't make it so I can log on from home or I can watch it later these large screens are about six feet long about three and a half feet tall we've got them, we started doing this last winter in about 14 classrooms around the state so we've got this big setup in Chippewa Falls and in Madison and in Green Bay and we find a great professor in Madison who can teach a course that we can't find somebody in Chipp to teach they teach everything they write on the whiteboard or on their computer shows up on this computer screen students in Chippewa Falls they can take that course cameras, audio, they can interact from there and if they want if they can't make it into class they can stay at home and watch on their cell phone or smart phone or on their computer we have somebody taking courses through her son's xbox right now I don't think she can shoot anybody that's version 3.0 we're still working on that but the ability to offer this because then we can find the faculty to teach these courses instead of running a course for five people we can run it for 25 people or 30 people and we're a private college we're not for profit but we're private what that lets us do is reinvest the money we would have spent on offering three courses in offering different courses finding more faculty providing financial aid for students to get them into school so that's what we're quite excited about the strategic planning process because we have to make sure we've got relevant programs every time you open a newspaper you see people talking about is it worth it so that's what we're hitting on we have to make sure it's affordable for people and also we need to make sure we can change our programs we have an MBA is it relevant, does it do what we need to do we're adding an insurance emphasis across our business programs right now Wisconsin is a hotbed of insurance it's just amazing how many companies they have and they've told us they're going to see a labor shortage in the next few years they've got a lot of retirements coming down the pike so in turn we're ramping up our insurance emphasis so we can provide people with the training to fill those jobs and we're working very closely with these insurance companies to do that cyber security is one we're starting to talk about we've got a great criminal justice program we've got a relatively new computer science program it's been around but we're ramping it up now we're building a new lab on campus here this summer so we're going to start talking about marrying those two majors because cyber security is one of the hot areas for the future here and why shouldn't it be here in Sheboygan County we just placed a student intern at boy this is going to get recorded I know the national security agency I can't say anything more about it and the funny thing is he can't either all he can say is I'm going to Maryland to work for the NSA that's all he can say about it but he has a double degree in criminal justice and computer science and that's fantastic we need to think about hospitality management how do we grow that and change that tourism is big here it always has been always will be so we're working on that as well and overlaying all of this are the challenges facing higher ed in general as I mentioned that delivery model how do you get people into the classroom if they can't get into the classroom one of the other new things we've started just this summer in our evening program is seven week courses traditionally they're either 12 or 14 weeks but we found some courses that we believe people can get through and still get a quality education in seven weeks that's going to allow people to move faster to their degree if they can do it if they're smart enough and they're willing to put that work in why shouldn't they be able to take courses twice as fast as other people and get out and get back to work that's something we're very excited about we're going to be expanding that this fall as well our career services department we're reinvigorating that as well because that's an area when you talk about the cost value proposition of higher education if you can't show people working with that degree you know it's still valuable sure there will still be a need for people who study philosophy and sociology and things like that because they become professors I was an anthropology major so there's still value in that you still learn but we need to make sure that people understand what type of jobs you can get and help them find those jobs that's one thing that as you heard from other people up here we're going to be contacting everybody here to see how can we get our students jobs but it's on us to make sure the majors are relevant and that they're skilled enough to get into that workforce so we want to work more on our partnerships here a few other ones we've got a new aviation minor aviation will have a demand all over the world same as insurance and now we're working on trying to make sure we can recruit international students to study in our aviation minor Asia will have an incredible demand for pilots they may not seem as relevant to Sheboygan County as you think but it's relevant to the global economy transport in aviation is a huge huge business if they can't find enough pilots to do it these things made here aren't going to get where they need to be so that's an area of growth for us it brings money into the economy here but overall on top of this we have to think about the quality there are a lot of people out there putting both feet first into online education and adult education the for-profits and some of them do it well but a lot of them do it quick and cheap and they take people's money and the people fail out and they don't get a degree that's worth anything so we have to make sure while we do this we need to flood gates and take people's money and not give them something of value because then we're not doing anybody any good we're not doing the college any good we're not doing the community any good so that's kind of the exciting things we're doing we're going to try to be at the table Lakeland sometimes we feel like we're kind of out in the cornfield but we need to make sure we're in here in town in all the other towns around the county talking to people and making sure we remain relevant we're not going to do everything shaboying and that can do things better than we can do and that's fantastic and that's great for this county so we're content with that we're not going to try to do what they do and we're going to continue to partner with them for the benefit of the county so at this point I think I've said enough and I think I'll turn it over if you have questions for Mike or Jackie and I'll just step aside or me I'll answer some as well so thank you Mike and Jackie would have come up with questions that you might have does anybody have any questions of them Jerry okay question was on what is available for internship programs and probably all of you have an answer for that who would like to go and probably you internships are a big part of your program yeah most of it particularly in our business area have interns and we have somebody who coordinates internships on our campus so we work with the local businesses they call up we try to make a match one specific example is at Jake's Cafe where we have an office at Jake's Cafe and I know Dan does there at Lakeland too so our students whether it could be our web design students our marketing students our administrative professionals work there and they serve as interns to the businesses that are incubating in Jake's Cafe but as I mentioned earlier just about every one of our programs either has an internship component or a clinical component to it I just want to add one thing to what Mike said we do the same thing but where we see this working and I'm sure Mike and Jackie would agree hopefully they would agree is that is a good way for you to test out people and see how they work I was a lawyer in Chicago before I moved into higher ed and as a law student that internship is the way you found your job so the more students we can get trying out your company and you trying them out the better it is since most of what we do are actually the liberal arts we don't have quite a formal internship program but certainly in our engineering program we're beginning to place students as businesses tell us they have an interest in having our students come and do an internship we could do the same thing as I said with business students that kind of thing you want them to identify a person in their agency or in their institution as a contact for internships did everybody hear that okay okay good idea okay right yeah that's a good idea we'll follow up and we'll get something out as far as contacts and maybe other summaries so Katie okay great thanks Steve you know this is probably an example of how the face of higher education is changing almost right from the very eyes of moving you know they have three folks up here representing different campuses and you probably used to be in competition and now it seems like we're getting into more of a collaborative type of setting and that the very idea of surveying the community and then probably trying to provide relevant programming almost seems to be brand new where it used to be we will build it they will come is there anything that the chamber can do to help facilitate that I mean I'm hearing each of you have an advisory board kind of outreach program the interview companies is there a method that the chamber could help to facilitate in terms of roundtables or opportunities for to bring these folks together in one place rather than each of you kind of doing your own thing or is that not been a collaborative yeah I think maybe to summarize is that what can the chamber do to help the two of you or three of you all work together to further educational opportunities in our county so who would like to take that first you know I think Dan and Jackie and I talk and you know that's a key thing right there you know and I think a lot of times if I look and I see you know Kurt Joa in old Wisconsin you both are manufacturers right but you're different I mean you and I think that's the thing we try to say that we each have distinct missions and so I think when we're out there working we're not really doing our own thing you know I think we're kind of you know talking and we may be talking at different levels with different people but I think roundtables help I think having education and workforce is a topic like you're doing bringing in Mary Ice Bister in August so things like that I think help provides good input to the three of us in working with our staff you know trying to meet your needs I know the business education committee that you have is a good way for us to stay connected to business as well I don't know if anybody else I think as any group like the Chamber and other groups here talk about trying to bring business to Sheboygan County in the region any time you want to involve our organizations and talking to potential companies that want to come here we'd be interested in doing that and we've done that at Lakeland with some companies that have been coming in some chemical companies and some faculty and talk about here's what we could provide if you move here so we're always willing to be part of those pitches that you're making to try to get companies interested other questions anybody has okay, no other questions well I think then that's we want to thank Jackie and Mike and Dan for giving us an overview on sort of the things we're working on and I think what we've learned is not so often we don't always appreciate sort of the top notch organizations, institutions we have in Sheboygan County we know we have world class top notch manufacturing service business we just found out if we didn't fully realize that we have top notch secondary educational facilities so thanks again and maybe what I might just sort of end with it was alluded to the Mike or Dan mentioned the Chamber of Business Education and you'll hear more and I don't want to kind of say a lot but the Chamber has been active on trying to bring business and education closer together so that we do a better job of training our people to be working in our industries and I think you're going to probably see some developments in that area in a very short time so there's a community that's very active a group of people who are very active in fact I think they may be meeting today to further those efforts so stay tuned over that corner so with that if no one has anything else they'd like to announce then we'll come to a close and have a great weekend looks like maybe good weather is on its way finally