 I am not familiar but I have strong strong desires to go there. No. Oh, do you have family over there? I know I did not I just love I just love their life time Okay That's what you and I have a conversation cuz I don't have a topic cuz I'm from Kelly. Okay. Yeah It's more so it's I LA's rough man. I've no I've heard I've very mixed it I love more so the glorified side of all the glorified side just because I'm a dreamer I get it. I get it. Hey, there's other scenes you can go to like what's your music style? Um, Right now I'd say I mean I rap and sing both ATL is like your place to be then and it's a much better traffic scene Yeah, I agree with that But like if you want to connect with other people who are in that same level because LA's pop Yeah pop and selling out. Yeah, and Coca-Cola. Yeah, maybe Pepsi. I don't know Jamba juice Whatever they sell today. Yeah, I'm like LA's a cool place. Yeah, visit there before you decide a little bit Of course Would you mind if we had a quick chat? The whole thing that's going on right now is we got a street picture here on campus Yeah, I normally do these chats with anyone. I go to parks. I'll go to campuses I'll just talk about whatever they believe or what I whatever they want. Would you mind if it's about like a supernatural topic? Is there anything that you believe in when I have a personal Christian? Yeah, we can have a conversation about Christian Hold on I'm talking with mr. LA. What is your name? My name is Cameron Cameron just so the cameras my name is Ty. Nice to meet you. And if you want you can take a car We're doing this completely out of order. All right. So Cameron. How do you spell that? It's um, C-A-M-E-R-O-N Got it right just verified Cameron Christianity that's a really big topic. That's a very huge topic very controversial as well. Is it? Yeah Is it? Yeah, isn't like this the most Christian nation in the planet surface of the universe? Okay, talk to me am I in my personal belief You know and I honestly with a lot of the other as I've set in this crowd for about an hour So I've spoken with some of the other students just other people in general that were Christians For the most part we've all shared much of the similar belief that this radical type of Christianity is what? negatively impacts Christians everywhere it's a bad record exactly and I I related also to more things like for example the race the racial issues There is a very huge There's a very huge Stereotype on African Americans whether they be men male or female There's a big stereotype on that because of a select few that's not everyone like for example even though I even though I am half white half black even if I was to be perceived as African American if I was perceived as any other Race other than what they believe is right due to that stereotype I am immediately judged before they even ask me my name or even see my personality sure Yeah, which in the same sense how you perceive yourself is not the way how people perceive you exactly and that's disconnect There's really disheartening especially when there's that people out there Maybe even mudding the waters. Yes. So that's why I have this table because I'm really into the one-on-one interaction with people I'm not gonna sell you anything like I'm not I don't have well. I mean I have my YouTube channel But aside from that I'm not gonna try to like persuade you that you're wrong I'm not here to argue with you. This is not a debate No, I just think I'm really just trying to get that one-on-one connection because I believe any No, I agree completely because I've seen things like this on YouTube before Yeah, this is one of the things that actually excited me to come to college and live Who like experiences campus lifestyles because I see things like this and I mean there's all kinds of I love talking I love me people. I love having conversation and this is awesome So Cameron you believe in the God is it a specific kind of Christianity that you follow I Just believe are you Baptist Protestant Methodist evangelical Lutheran? Or are you jovial witness dear Catholic? I I would say that I I belong to a non-denominational church non-denominational The best denominational all right, so yeah Non-denominational what is something about what is the nature of this guy that we're talking about? Um Now that also varies between I'm specifically asking you me okay my personal belief of the nature of that's a benefit of that one-on-one Okay, yeah, we don't talk about anybody. Um the nature of my God is a very forgiving person someone who is someone who is judgmental, but his forgiveness Overshadows his judgment completely. Okay, is there a Jesus Christ figure in this? I do Is a good way to get there I I'm mixed I've mixed I've mixed this is interesting I'm glad to ask these questions I have mixed opinions about the Bible because there are some things and I've and I've even spoken with like very Popular Christians that have a very big following or even have been preached at With certain by certain Christians that have basically said, you know, we don't all share the same beliefs that the Bible is 100% blueprint of how you live Yeah, of course, there are some people who say that there's no God I don't you agree with those people Not at all. I believe that you believe that there is a God I believe there's a God I believe that there is a Bible now the current version of the Bible that we have my I am a strong believer And this is a son. I say a theory, but I mean I don't I haven't looked too much into it And I don't plan on it. It's just I personally believe that if this was created way back Then whenever they say that Jesus walked earth and all in his words were written down And that's what the Bible is to say that from then Throughout history of it being passed for me and people's corrupt views and people's own personal Because the thing is is that's why there's all these different translations Mindful just just walk this back. Hey, you're good. Yeah, so you believe that there is a God you're Christian non-illumination How confident are you that this God actually exists? I would say I At first when I first when I was younger It was a 50-50 now, I'd say I'm probably 100% sure can I just define 100% just so we make sure we're same mean the Same thing when we throw out a number because I really don't like numbers And that's why it's good to flush it out by a hundred percent. I mean like There's no way you could be wrong. Okay. I Get exactly coming from you're saying by a hundred percent. I'm saying that it is complete Yes, you are closed-minded you have all the evidence you need no future evidence to change. Yes, sir I'm certain that it is impossible that God does not exist You are at the apex of your faith five years from now if you change in any way waver in any way This is you at your most confident at this moment. There's no way you could be wrong. You are closed-minded on the position I would say that 100% You must have a really good method to get to that level of certainty I would love to hear it. Of course. Yes, of course What got you to that hundred percent? I would say And honestly, this is this is all my faith in my belief in God now has only gone stronger Through what we've actually been learning in philosophy because this type of thinking and to say that Circuity is almost impossible because to be certain it has to mean that it's impossible that something can't happen Now whenever I pose that question of if God is real I base I and I've based I've now matched this with other philosophers not necessarily them speaking on the topic of whether or not God is real But then there's in philosophy. There's a big niche of if the external world exists And there's a philosopher that is 100% certain that because he has his experience His knowledge and his own beliefs Along with the stories of others they they can prove That what they say for example that this hourglass right here But how does it relate to your godly? It relates to it in the sense of I use my own personal opinion. I use my own Opinion I use my own experiences and I use from what others the stories of others and everything like that for me to prove for me to form My own belief that 100% and no one can prove to me No one could prove to me that God isn't real unless the only proof that I'll ever have just as a heads up I'm not trying to prove that. No, no, I of course. I understand a bit. I'm not I know how these things are I respect completely that you're not here to bash anyone's you just want to have a conversation Yeah, and if anything give you a chance to Just express what you believe because a lot of people don't even get a chance to do that Nice place to do that There are some things that just making sure so you came to your 100% confidence based on the personal opinions that you develop personal experience and the stories from other people Yeah, is it possible to have a personal opinion? That's not true Could I have a personal experience that informs me to a wrong conclusion? Can people lie to me? If I could have opinions that could lead me to true things and false things or personal experiences that inform me on true Things or false things or people can tell me true things or false things How does personal opinions experiences and incidental stories? lead to a 100% justified 100% true conclusion. Um, it seems like each of your methods is not reliable to 100% I agree and Again that to me relates back to the philosophy thing is to be certain of something means that it's impossible That it that it's it's to be certain is to be impossible that something is uncertain or something like that It's what I believe is For me in those opinions that I have but I've said we have allowed me to reach 100% Certainty that God for me exists for me I believe that God exists because there are certain experiences in my own Could you get more experiences that would make me more certain tomorrow? I could yes if you can be more certain How are you 100% right now? I'd be 101% so you wouldn't be at the maximum percent? That's what I'm talking about. Okay Okay, I Okay, then I guess we could dial the certainty percentage back from a hundred you really believe that this is true I wouldn't I understand, but you are not absolute. I guess I wouldn't be absolutely sure but I I Do what would you really read from road to really calibrate this out if I was to be honest with you? I guess I would say I Guess I could be fine being fair because I do have years to live and obviously hopefully yeah And as you said, you know, I could have more experiences that can make me more certain I Say to be fair At the current point and at the current age of my life. I'd say 75 75 75 which I know is a 25% drop from a hundred. It's good to calibrate your confidence. Okay, so No, you're fine 75% still pretty oh, it's raining a little bit right now this man Man You want to help me out real quick? Yeah Okay, so 75 You know, I think I think just the recognition that Still have room to grow or could even like learn some brand new things is An open mind this that I appreciate a lot a lot of people are going back away from a hundred percent They think there's merit. Yeah to being absolutely certain about stuff But I think even that like walk down. I have to really push that's a really good thing to do because I like what I liked a lot was When I was listening to the last guy's week, yes, he said something that I'm strong. I'm very I was broken about I Personally respect Everyone's beliefs as their own, you know, I will not I will not be little even if something was the most Racist big if there was sure that is still there but now whether I am offended or whether I disagree with it completely I can't change that that's there and I still have to respect that as I would wish that they would respect my I think everyone has a right to believe Though some beliefs are more better for society that works along with each other And so all we can do is just encourage honest dialogue with each other because I feel like the people who are going to talk to each other The better ideas will go to the top You have a 75% confidence that that something is true. Yes based on methods that could be at best 50% yes or no opinions experience Other people's stories who live in the world people who lie. What's really getting into that 75%? What's really getting me that 75% and I would say at the moment which really started in my journey on the on the me being Sure I was at a church. I was at a conference and this is another personal experience. This is a personal experience, but Without without me being under the influence Anything like there is no I wasn't talking to anyone I wasn't I wasn't around people who are saying anything is it possible for people to have very genuine Personal experiences that leave them to something. That's not true. I Guess but then again, that's someone's own but that's someone's belief. I understand and your beliefs are In my opinion founded for my beliefs are founded based off of my emotions and what I feel and if but our beliefs Absolutely true just because you have them. No, so that's what I'm trying to figure out. What's a reliable way to get to your If you wanted to talk about what's something that's always so many five percent at least reliable that's leading to your Personally, I can't I can't give you I can't give you if we're going off Valid enough to say that I can't personally say now if you want to speak I can't give proof now I don't know enough about this to use it as proof for me to say directly I know they can okay a day card very good mathematician French dude dead dude Either way all of his books Well, this was at first because he was sure that he was he couldn't be certain of anything until he found that he was certain And then from there he built back up his beliefs. What do you say certain of himself? What do you mean by that? That he himself is a physical being that exists, right? I Is your opinion that ran it apart? Ultimate conclusion with that. He was a physical being Not not too much that he has a body or not so much that he has skin and that The external world is just that he himself exists. That was what he was trying to get up And what was the nature of himself himself? It was that he exists it's only that he exists only that he exists and then he had did he have any qualities of himself You only knew that existence Necessary if he has an identity He only knew that he himself Because he was struggling with the certainty of anything and then he threw away all police of everything So he was certain of his own existence and then from there he built up He built up a certainty of his own beliefs the belief in vibe through his own methods and his logic now Like I said, I don't know that I don't know exactly what he said and the reasons he gave for God to be 100% real him to be certain of that so that's why I'm not talking about other people beliefs So what's getting you to that city? for me to say that I've tried to say My own personal experiences but then again, like you said, they might not be seventy five percent But for me, that's all I knew whether whether or not Yeah, whether or not anything Because because honestly, it's it's in a sense. It's like a relationship. I hate messing with bugs. They're outside because I'm technically in their home So I'm just gonna leave them alone Do you care if you believe so true? You don't care if you believe so true Not really. I mean if I mean if I'm if I'm Because The reason why I think this now The reason why I think this now is just because I Does it is on the subject of Let's just walk it back Doesn't matter if you are believing in things that are true Because that is that something that motivates you to believe in true things. Are you motivated to believe in true things? I would like to believe would you like your beliefs to be true? Yes, would you like to believe in true? Yes In the event, I'm not saying it's a case because I'm not here to tell you But in the event that you were wrong Would you like to at least be aware that you were of course? I would like to I would like to be aware Your current level of certainty where you're not before you I'd ask you if you're closed-minded And I think you said like three times around if you're in that state. How do you do that? How do you how do you prove that now? No, how do you become aware that you could be wrong to close-minded to things that might let you know? That all goes back down to you have whether or not you want to be so straight forward No one It's all like the sense of like being a radical like you're really sure no one else is there for true Like you can't you can't be that way now I have to respect that because that's I feel like we're talking about 40 different people. How do you reconcile being both close-minded and willing to know that you're wrong if you can't do it I will say that I am close-minded about Because I truthfully believe that is I don't doubt But I'm wondering if you care about Knowing if you're wrong, how would you go about correcting that if you're close-minded if you care about knowing a figure? I I love knowledge I don't base my knowledge. I mean some things should the facts of science as I thought It's how I formed some of my knowledge with any and that could be wrong because that's just another person's that could be a personal error But we don't we trust so that I If until I have knowledge In job knowledge But if in any case somebody can provide me talk about whatever you want If at any point someone can come to me And you probably saw with that other guy You know if you have a coin we flip it. Yeah, it's on the back of your hand Yeah, and I don't know if it tells you know if it tells my life You know, we both don't know if it tells me go to science that tell it 5050. Yeah, I could just believe it and Respect anyone else believes to say that I'm wrong and just keep myself closed by now They'd be against heads and still be right But is that a reliable way to come to a conclusion? Wouldn't you want to have a reliable way to come to a conclusion, but I would love to There's no reliable way to say Then in the event that we don't have a reliable way just like we don't have a reliable way to know what this points The best answer may just be I don't know yet that might be an intellectually honest way What do you think about that? Like whenever you said it to the other guy I respect that because I mean I will say that yes, I'm 75% so even if I can be 75% certain it's heads But is that really beyond it's not and it is it is if I don't have a reliable way to come to a true conclusion Why wouldn't I say? To some that doesn't matter I guess for me personally I'm I'm not going when it comes to super not also for example, but I'm not going to sit up I I will be because I guess would be considered a lie because I'm not certain of me saying that I know for a fact But until I'm proven otherwise, I will forever. That's an interesting idea. Is someone better off Assuming a position until counter evidence to be provided or are they better off saying I'm gonna wait until we have better information Before I choose either side Honestly, I really feel like that depends on the context of whatever that Yeah, I'm just gonna believe are you better off saying Because you could believe in a God that may not actually be like there's people out there who believe in a God of that same sort of That's still this confidence, but they may not be making the right decision Could it be better? And I'm not saying that you're wrong if you don't just agree with him wouldn't it be at least Reliable to say hey, I'll win a lot better evidence to believe in a bad and until then my position is that God doesn't exist My position is I don't know if that guy exists. Yeah, or at least not to a 75% level I would say Yes, and the reason why is because if If you if you choose to believe in a God that doesn't exist Even if he whether he does or does not exist if you choose to believe that you Depending on your level of Christianity or your own person lives, you'll lead your life for certain I respect that and therefore certain experiences won't happen because you got your life that way now if you if you said I don't know why that's a wet umbrella That guy like drenched out of notion He was like frigging in the store. I'm sorry. That's so good. That's rude to me. I know you're fine You're fine, but no as far as like if to say that I don't know And so you have evidence you'll lead your life to say you'll lead your life a different What would be different? What would your life be different if you didn't have this So I guess my own person so you wake up tomorrow and you have discovered what would be different. What would change? Because there's still there's still certain actions There's no certain actions that are found upon in Christianity example Because because I'm not I'm not the staple Christian. I'm not the perfect Christian. I'll say that For your case What semi-immoral that'd be different if you woke up without your religious beliefs tomorrow Would you go around murdering people? No, I wouldn't want that sounds great. Yeah, I wouldn't go around money still money Like would you start kicking old nannies into the street? No Like it seems like you still have scruples It seems like you'd still be aware that your consequences of that. Yeah, of course I would say I would say like my my morals as my own person like of my personality will be different Don't be different because they don't be they're not based on my religious beliefs Interesting your morals aren't really based on your religious beliefs. Some of them are but not which ones are to the point That way change that's and that's what I'm trying to figure out because take your time No, you're fine Because all throughout one that is basically the most Stereotable thing a lot of people talk about when it comes to the same sex if innocence The first time I didn't forget it. I did because because it does it's found the problem that I've said before mayors but Even though it but there's also the belief of God is forgiven. He forgives all sins and if you learn in repent for your sins Then you'll be able to be saved and you'll be able to have after I've never Someone had sex before marriage. Could they still be a Christian? So how does It could someone have sex before marriage and God still exists. Yes So how does the moral having the moral reflect at all on whether or not the God exists? If the morals don't change whatsoever, what changes if your God believes that? The way though I would say this I would say yes in a sense of Because I will say that do to his family and the things I've been taught and it does say preach God Has made me more of an outgoing person. There have been Probably not because Because there have been so many there've been so many people that I've met whether it be me talking to a fellow Christian Or me talking to anyone of any other place. Does being an outgoing person make your God believe true? No, not at all. I'm still at a loss of figuring out what meaningful Distinction would be different to demonstrate that your God doesn't exist if you don't understand it. No, I I get where you're coming from and I'm just saying that for me for me What would be different to the point where you would have confirmation that oh my God doesn't exist? Nothing because if because if he never existed to begin with then I would have never been out man I'm saying just you believe God might still exist. It's just That's hard because it depends because That would you want me to rephrase the question. No, no I do that depends because it depends on your level and your dedication to Christian Yeah, if you didn't have that dedication, and you woke up tomorrow For me personally for a different for just for you. I'm only out talking. Okay for me personally. Um, That would be hard for me personally because the level of Christianity that I'm at Maximum level Oh Super Saiyan 2 is the worst addition to Dragon Ball Z what we can talk about this. Yeah, I'm not I'm not Super Saiyan Christian And I got it just for me and my personal views Things that Christianity has and other things that Christianity has I don't follow Could someone have those same beliefs but not be a Christian like some believe hey, I'm not gonna have time to tell marriage I don't want to have that You could have you could have you could have those I'd like to hop in Sure I'm wondering then Can I do a quick summary? Sounded like we're very confident about To a hundred percent certainty that God was real, but we are able to calibrate that Yeah, mostly because we didn't realize there's still room for you to grow but also the foundation that you're resting it on the experience the opinions and The stories of other people may not necessarily be reliable you reference some philosophers, but it seemed like the The retelling of it's the explicit nature of what they were trying to describe And I feel like I asked you will it be different if you welcome tomorrow without these beliefs But we're able to confirm that anything would really be any different. I Think it's some good stuff to think about and I wonder if When the event that you don't have conclusive information if the methods that you provided are enough to justify even a 75% I do that really but the one thing that I've missed my Entire belief. Oh one thing. Okay. Okay. No, I'm not it's I mean like I said What's the one thing the one thing is is like I said, I don't really care if it's true or not true It's just what I personally believe and I mean so it could be wrong It could be wrong and that's perfectly fine. So as far as just the confidence of whether or not you feel you're justified If you know it could be wrong and you don't care is being 75 percent confident about anything Justifies Okay, because I mean I could be 75 percent sure that exists, but it might not it might not Yeah, but we'll never know Well, I won't say we'll never know but I mean but we could come up with reliable ways To at least support it and lacking that I don't know is probably the best answer. Exactly. I agree with that completely Thank you. Thank you so much, man. I appreciate it. The thought you have a wonderful day. You too Feel free to take a card. Uh I Believe I even put it in my back. Yeah, because I was I definitely you need to take another one. I got a box Yeah, I'm just gonna grab it But no, did you enjoy the chat? How'd you feel about of course? I loved it so much and like I said I This is why whenever I seen it I immediately wanted to do it because I love having these kind of discussions Because it allows me to think and I hope you learned something. I learned a lot too. I like the way you Phrase things. I think it's really important. I'm I'm I'm learning. Yeah