 Today I have the pleasure of speaking with Wayne Tisdell from 21cMetals. Did I get that right Wayne? That's right. I'll tell you what I love is the name is the trading simple bull. And you've got Palladium, we've got Palladium for today and Cobalt for tomorrow. So why don't we start with the Palladium since Palladium is the bull market presently. Well it's a little bit of a more of a story. How I ended up with both project is last year I sold US Cobalt to First Cobalt. We started about two years early, spent about 10 million and we got 140 million back for the thing. So I thought I was doing pretty good. So I went into Germany and the check border and took a big project on for Copper Cobalt. And then as the Cobalt market sort of deteriorated a little bit, I started to look around for the alternative. And I ran across David Sutleff who's a well-known project generator and I purchased a very good Palladium prospect from him in Ontario, 80 miles or 80 kilometers east or west of Sudbury. So it's right in that right in the area. So we have a really good project in there. We have 522,000 ounces indicated 43-101, we're going to 2 million ounces. It's very pliable, very pitable, it's in great shape and it's drill permitted. So we're starting drilling in the next couple of weeks. Okay so that just leads into the news really. So I was going to ask you about you've got a 21C Metals closes transaction to acquire 43-101 inferred Palladium resource and of course this is the Ontario project you're talking about, correct? Right. That's correct. Okay. And so can you just tell me what we should anticipate as shareholders with the Sudbury project here over the next quarter or two? Well I think what you're going to see is increase the size of the indicated reserves. We're putting one drill on immediately and we'll probably have the second one on in July and it's a pretty simple project. We're just drilling off a known structure. It's open pitable, it dips at 55 degrees, it's got the 1 to 1 ratio stripping ratio. It's a pretty simple project and so we're just going to drill it off and take it into that 2 million ounce reserve. And of course Wayne here at Investor Intel we're always recommending that investors really look at the patterns of the CEOs and the leaders, the management and the various companies. Your track record is impressive so we're going to encourage investors out there to look you up and find out more about you but I have to ask with all of your successes why in the world would you want to do another exploration company? I have to ask. You know I enjoy myself, I love the spirit, I love the chase, I can't imagine not doing that. It's just the most fun thing I can do. Okay so with that in mind speaking of loving the chase, I see that you've gone to the Czech Republic and we've also been following different markets worldwide that you should be getting into. Why the Czech Republic? Well it's on the Czech Republic border and it's a huge concession. It's 15,000 hectares and it was in a time capsule. It was first discovered in the 1300s, it was mined and then there was a head frame put on in I think 1898 and it stayed up for maybe 10 years and it was caught in the Austrian Hungary Empire War and then it got taken up by the First World War and the Second World War and then it sat and the Soviets came in and the state government of Czech formed to come and they went underground and they did a little bit of drilling. They maybe did I think 500,000 tons over the next 10 years. So it's sort of a make work project. They did a lot of underground drilling and then in 89 when the wall came down they sent a team of geologists in for the next about six or seven years and then they closed it up and it was that's it. There was never any science going on. So I thought that was an interesting intriguing possibility if you could take our today's science. Our concession is the size pretty much the size of the Timmins camp. So we have a huge concession. We have and I took up some well known Geos Paul McGuigan and who's a VMS specialist and we determined we had a volcanic mess of cell fight. So we are pretty excited about it. Okay. So what should we anticipate with this particular project say in the next quarter or two? What's what's next? We're going to drill it off, define our structures and hopefully we're going to drill off a large ore body. That's our that's our goal. Because of your background in the resource sector and of course your background in the investment community. I'm also going to ask you Wayne if you don't mind if you can speculate on where the cobalt market is going. We've had a lot of ups and downs to this last year. I'm being told it's coming back into into fashion presently. What's going on? You know it's a strange one to watch. I mean we got so lucky in our takeout of us cobalt because I think cobalt was at $42 a pound and it looked like it was never going to stop. So we were fortunate to have a buyer and then it's just continuously fell off to I don't know maybe 17 to $20 a pound today. It seems that it should come back. There's a shortage in the Congo. They're not producing. It's an interesting story. I think it will come back. There's so much emphasis on the electric vehicle market. Now the reason we went to Palladium is because what we noticed in the whole so we thought we'd have both sides of the market. And the reason we went to Palladium is because what we've noticed in in the European they are now calling for more hybrid cars than they ever had before because their infrastructure isn't there for a total electric thing. So we think we got about seven to 10 years of hybrids in that area. So which leads to a very high Palladium price as well as a cobalt price. So I think we've got both areas covered. Well Wayne it was such a pleasure. Thank you so much for joining us today with 21 C medals. Good thank you.